1 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to another edition of Cardinal Territory. 2 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: Jim Hayes alongside Kyle Gibson and Kyle, we have a 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: lot to chop up today, and today we're going to 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: start with the World Baseball Classic and our coverage all 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: of it at the World Baseball Classic is brought to 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: you by our friends at Fox one, and they're streaming 7 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: live right now. 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But Team 17 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: USA has advanced of the quarterfinals. It did not go 18 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: according to the original script. They kind of had to 19 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: math their way into it thanks to Italy beating Mexico 20 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: and scoring enough runs to kick in the tiebreaker in 21 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: favor of the US and to me, and I want 22 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on this. There's one person to 23 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: blame and that's Matt Holliday. 24 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: Your thoughts, Yeah, I mean, yeah, Holiday, I don't know 25 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: how you I don't know how you go the first 26 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: five or six as with outscore a run against Italy, 27 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: you know. I mean, so let's put a square on 28 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: our guy, Matt Holiday. And just you know, the late 29 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: surge was great help with run differential. But no, I mean, 30 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: I think you know this team a little bit if 31 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: I remember some of these scores and how they've gone. 32 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: You know, they've started slow, offensively a little bit and 33 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: then have kind of poured it on later in the game. 34 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 2: But you know, I think this obviously it was a 35 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 2: little bit of a misstep, right, And it was a 36 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: little bit of an issue here with thinking that they 37 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: were in and obviously they weren't. 38 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: But those things happened. 39 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: I mean, who wouldn't Who would have thought that it 40 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: wouldn't have just been a pretty easy tiebreaker rule and 41 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: you move on, right, But I don't know, it's a 42 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: I guess that's what makes us a little bit different. 43 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: It's all in the past now, right. I hear people 44 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: talk talking about well, it should DeRos even manage next time, 45 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: come on, guys, like, let's uh, let's just slow down 46 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: a little bit. And it was one little thing. Everybody 47 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: makes mistakes, but they're in. They gotta play Canada, looks 48 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: like and it should be a fun finish to this 49 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: WBC all right, But. 50 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to give the background on Deroso, so he 51 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: gave an interview after they've been Mexico, saying, yeah, taking 52 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: his punched to the quarterfinals, and if you look at 53 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: the way he managed against Italy, you could see that's 54 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: the thought process he was operating under. Right, they started 55 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: Goldie at first against a right hander. They didn't pinch 56 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: run from it. At some point it kicked in. They're like 57 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: a run differential, right, It's all you know, DeRosa, who 58 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: is a really good guy, really good host on MLB 59 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: network and it was a really good player, good. 60 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 4: Guy all around. But he's taken some heat now. 61 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: But if you're the manager of Team USA, don't you 62 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: have to take the heat. 63 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: You take the heat. 64 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: It's just like any other manager. I mean, he's not 65 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: going to put it on the players, right, you take 66 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: the heat. And I think without him, I heard somebody 67 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: saying the other day that they were mad that he 68 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: didn't just come out. 69 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: And say, you know what, I messed up. 70 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: Well, okay, if we're talking about he said I misspoke, 71 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: I messed up, what's the difference he admitted that, you know, 72 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: he said that they closed the spot and they hadn't 73 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: and and is what it is? You know, Itt, sure 74 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: you're probably managing that game a little bit different, but 75 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: that same token, like, you know, Goldie is a really 76 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: good player. Okay, so you're starting against the rity, but 77 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: you're trying to get him in there. He's got to 78 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: get at bats, he's got to get innings too. This 79 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: is still guys getting ready for a season as well, 80 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: not just you know, running the same nine guys out there. 81 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: The whole time and not let everybody else get their bats. 82 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: Now, I don't know who would want to manage okay 83 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: it certainly I'm not smart enough to do it. You 84 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: got to be really smart. And then when it comes 85 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: to the World Baseball Classic, I mean, it's a lot 86 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: of time figuring out who we can get, what the 87 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: team specs are for, how this player can be used. 88 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: Kind of a thankless job. But some guys were saying, well, 89 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: what about Barrosa, he's never managing the big leagues. I 90 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: don't know if that man matters. Don't know if you 91 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: heard any of that too, But there weren't like guys 92 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: with big league manager will experience available. They went with DeRosa, 93 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: No one second guest did beforehand. Does it matter big 94 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: league experience or anything like that? 95 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 3: So no, it does not. 96 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: Let's just think here, which big league manager can you 97 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,559 Speaker 2: pull away from their team in the middle of spring 98 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: training when they've got to reresponsible for setting a roster, 99 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: when maybe they don't even have a player in the 100 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 2: WBC out there and it's just them trying to get 101 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: their team ready. Which of these thirty managers are we 102 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: going to pull away? Which of these minor league managers 103 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: are we going to pull away from what they're trying 104 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: to do to get ready for a season. 105 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: You can get former managers who are you could have 106 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: gotten like a Bell or Girardi or Madden like that. 107 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: Sure, right, you could. Yeah, you're not wrong, Absolutely you could. 108 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: But I think you're managing an all star team here. 109 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: You're managing probably a group where as long as you 110 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 2: have the schedule set up, you don't mess up. The 111 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: BP groups they're probably gonna be fine. Like, don't put 112 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 2: her in judge in two different groups, just haven't been 113 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: one group, so he knows to hit once. Uh Like, 114 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: I think for the most part, this is to throw 115 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: the balls out there and let the guys go play 116 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: and see how it goes. You're probably not picking spots 117 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: for your specific lefty you know at bats or right 118 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 2: here at bats like you just you said it and go. 119 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: Let him play. So I think de Ro's got enough 120 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: baseball knowledge to do that. I don't know that's been 121 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: a problem. 122 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 4: We bicker. 123 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: We bicker on this show, you and I in particular. 124 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the other guys drop bombs on me too. 125 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: But so I want to ask you this because I 126 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: do have ultimate respect for all of you guys, and. 127 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 4: You as well. 128 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: If you're Derosi, would you have just said messed up 129 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: because he did choose his words carefully misspoke? How would 130 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: Kyle Gibson handle it? Okay, you kind of didn't look 131 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: at the tiebreaker, you know, you got a really good 132 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: maybe you didn't look at everything, and then it gets exposed. 133 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: Kyle Gibson, you're at the podium, the media internationally is 134 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: looking at you. How do you explain yourself. 135 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: I'm probably saying basically what you just said here is like, 136 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: what were the scenarios that I actually looked at? Did 137 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: I think it was just run differential? Did I think 138 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: that it was just straight up head to head? You 139 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: know what am I looking at here? And I probably 140 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: would have just said, hey, yeah, I thought we were in. 141 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: Why else would I said that? You know, so I 142 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: probably would have just taken it that way. You're going 143 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: to take some heat either way. You're going to take 144 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: some heat, so you might as well just just kind 145 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: of take your medicine and move on and let people 146 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: take their shots and let people say what they're going 147 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: to say. Because everybody being the armchair quarterback, they never 148 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 2: would have made that mistake. You know that, nobody else 149 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: would have would have messed that up. Possibly on any 150 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: talk radio show that I've heard criticizing Mark Carosa, they 151 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: has gotten right one hundred percent of the time. 152 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: So team Italy did did a solid right. You saw 153 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: Passquatch say all right, I did that for you. US 154 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: Italy is a juggernaut. So this is what this is 155 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: what I This is what I notice. So when when 156 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: you know you read stuff and you look online, I 157 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: don't listen to sports talk radio, even though I have 158 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: destroyed a sports talk station or two in my career. 159 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: But you read comments and stuff and people are like, 160 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: Team Italy is good, but they're not Italian or Team Israel. 161 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 4: They're not even Israelis. 162 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: Aren't we losing the big picture when people focus on 163 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. It's guys with different backgrounds playing 164 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: for different teams internationally. 165 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 4: Am I wrong? 166 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: H No? I think they're right, and I think we. 167 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: I don't know who all would would make too much 168 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: of some of these things, right that you just said, 169 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: But if you have, my debate for that or in 170 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 2: my argument would be how much Israeli background do you 171 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: need to play for Team Israel? 172 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 3: Right? 173 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 4: Like? 174 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: Is it a grandparent? You know? What? Is like? 175 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 2: I think people can claim a lot of different nationalities 176 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: just by a little bit, you know, if we want 177 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: to get I don't know, we're not going to get political, 178 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: but I mean I think if you have that's why 179 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: they have the parameters. You know, Austin Wells is the 180 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 2: catcher for the Dominican team. 181 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: I don't know the tie. 182 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: There, but if he wants to represent and he wants 183 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: to show respect for some of his past relatives, whatever 184 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: that connection is, what are we upset about? You know, 185 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: like we're perfectly fine with displaying identity and personality and 186 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: creativity and so many fasts of our game, but we're 187 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: not okay when people who have some type of Italian 188 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: lineage that is close enough to trace legitimately that they 189 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: choose to go to Team Italy when there was no 190 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: room on Tembosa, right, I mean that's just how it was. 191 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, I definitely, I definitely wouldn't say. You know, 192 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: I've heard some people say they're Temiosa's B team. 193 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 3: I don't like that. 194 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: You know, these are all big leaguers and you're not. 195 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: You can't criticize Michael Lorenzen because he's Michael Lorensen. He's 196 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: a big league pitcher. He gets guys out in the 197 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: big leagues all the time. You know, Aaron Nola goes 198 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: out there and shoves against New Mexico. Aaron Nola's really good, 199 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: by the way. 200 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 3: You know. So yeah, I don't. 201 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: I don't like the whole criticism of, well, these guys 202 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: aren't Italian. Well you know what I mean, except for 203 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: most of you know, the Dominican team that hail from 204 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: the Dominican or Venezuela team that hails from there, like 205 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: some of these countries. 206 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: That's how it is. 207 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: A lot of these players were born in the US 208 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: and they're able to trace olineag so why not let 209 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 2: them represent that? 210 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: And the goal too, is to create interest in whatever 211 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: country so that more local players advance, work hard, and 212 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: next thing, you know, they could represent that country. 213 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 4: That's what it's all about. 214 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: And I know that's what they're trying to do with 215 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: with the Italian team. One other thing about the World 216 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: Baseball Classic And to me, you're like, why would people 217 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: talking But because it's fun, all right? 218 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 4: But the the cal. 219 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: Ralegh A Rose Arena thing where cal didn't do the 220 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: fist bump and everything because his apparently his thing is 221 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm playing on this team now where brothers, when we're 222 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: back to our you know, our own team in Seattle. 223 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: How would you have handled that? If you're representing Team USA, 224 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: would you be friendly with a teammate from your major 225 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: league team or would you lock in like like Rolly did? 226 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. 227 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: I don't know how Cala is in the middle of 228 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 2: the season when he's around people, you know, in the 229 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: batter's box that he knows well. He might not like 230 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 2: it when players walk up to the plate and try 231 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: to say hello to him. I know there are players 232 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: that definitely did not like it when a batter would 233 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: come up and tap their shin guard and say hello, Like, 234 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: what do you do it? Man, I'm on the other team. 235 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: We're playing a game. You know. 236 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: Wilson Contraras is one guy that it didn't matter that 237 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: it was his brother in the box. He was not cordial. 238 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: He's playing a game. He's trying to beat you. He's 239 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: doing everything he can to do that. So everybody's a 240 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: little bit different, you know. Just I think there's obviously 241 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: a little different expectations. Randy expected to go up there 242 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: and say hello to his teammate, Cal expected in this matchup. 243 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: This is a really heated matchup. We haven't beat Mexico 244 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: in however many years. We're all business right now, and 245 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: Cal decided to go all business. I my guess is 246 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: it's not more than that. But if it is right, 247 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: that's okay too, Because everybody outside of that locker room 248 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: of twenty six players in Seattle would be crazy to 249 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: think that all those players get along and are just 250 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 2: Hunky Dory for one hundred and eighty days. 251 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: Right. 252 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: You go through spats, and you go through disagreements with teammates, 253 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: and sometimes you're not as corcial with guys. You know, 254 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: just no different than any other work environment than anybody 255 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: watching or listening to the show deals with. There's some 256 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: people in your work environment that you don't want to 257 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 2: say hello to. Uh, And it's no different, all. 258 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: Right, name some names with the when you're with the 259 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals for that one season outside of me, that is. 260 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: Of people that I wouldn't want to talk to. 261 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 4: No, people that you didn't get along with. 262 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: Oh, people that I didn't get along with. 263 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 4: Uh. 264 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: In Saint Louis, I don't know if there was anybody. 265 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: I don't know that there was anybody in Saint Louis. 266 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 2: It happens right like there's a I had. I had 267 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: a teammate in Minnesota one time. I was really early 268 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: in my career. I was I missed the start because 269 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 2: of a back like a back spasm that locked up. 270 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 2: And I think it was like my second year into 271 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: Bigley's or something, and the trainer said, hey, uh, you 272 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: need to avoid sitting down right, walk around, stay active. 273 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 2: You're not pitching today, but in five days we need 274 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 2: to be better. So I was standing at the card 275 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 2: table playing cards right not sitting down, doing what the 276 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 2: trainer said, had already done all my treatment. He walks by, 277 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: he looks, I mean, he had like three or four 278 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: more years of service, and he had straight to the 279 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 2: train room. Was like, hey, is Gibson supposed to be 280 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: playing cards on the day that he's missing his start 281 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: right now? And I just so happened to walk in 282 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 2: and heard the conversation. I said, Hey, we have an 283 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: issue right now because I'm doing exactly what the trainers 284 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: are tell me to do, standing up, and I'm doing 285 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: my stuff for today. The next couple weeks weren't exactly 286 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: cordial with me and that player. And our daughters got 287 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: along like our wives got along. It wasn't like it 288 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: was a a bad relationship, but just for a couple 289 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: of weeks. He was upset that the bullpen was having 290 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: to cover nine innings that day because he was a reliever, 291 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: and I was the young player who appeared to not 292 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: care about that. 293 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 3: So every now and then it happens. 294 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: It's like a family, you know, you fight with your 295 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: uncle or your cousin next thing you know, you're at 296 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: the dinner table for a holiday. Everything's okay. 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The regular season is fast approaching, and there's 334 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: some issues with the Cardinals that I wanted your take on. 335 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: And one of them is interesting because I think they 336 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: have a lot of talent in the bullpen. I think 337 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: that's going to be a strong suit for this squad. 338 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: But Ali is reluctant. Him is reluctant to name a closer. 339 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 4: You got. 340 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: Jojo Romero could be the guy. Riley O'Brien could be 341 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: the guy. Matt Sponson could be the guy. All these 342 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: guys have like really impressive numbers and really good stuff. 343 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: I kind of like Sponson because he's one of these 344 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: guys that didn't turn into a closer. He's been closing 345 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: since the minor leagues. My question to you, Kyle Gibson, 346 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: as a veteran with lots of pitching experience, does it 347 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: matter if you don't name a closer before the season starts, 348 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: especially when we're you're rebuilding. 349 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: I think it matters that you have conversations with those 350 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: three players, assuming that those three are kind of like 351 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: your seven, eight nine guys, and I think how Alli 352 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: communicates those roles is important. JoJo's a routine guy who 353 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: likes to get stuff done before the game and is 354 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: very well aware when he's hot and ready for that game. 355 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: You know, Riley I was with him through the year, 356 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: but he was rehabbing in twenty twenty four, so he 357 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 2: seems pretty laid back and maybe not as you know, 358 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 2: intense on that routine, that schedule and Swans I don't 359 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 2: know at all, But I think you just want to 360 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: communicate with those guys and say, hey, all three of 361 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 2: you guys are closer potential. We plan on giving all 362 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: of you opportunities. And I think that's a benefit to have. 363 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: You know, that's a luxury. Any given night, you have 364 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: three guys who you believe can get the last three outs, 365 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: and it allows you to not run any one of 366 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: those three guys into the ground, and it allows you 367 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: to really have the flexibility to say, swonsin, you've thrown 368 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: two out of three, we don't want to throw three 369 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 2: out of four. You can take to night off. Jojo 370 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: and Riley got it, and it's sort of, you know, 371 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: same thing for all three of those guys. So I 372 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: think it's a luxury, and I would have to imagine 373 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: that those conversations with Alie and those three players have happened. 374 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: Who do I believe is up first for a save? 375 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: Probably Jojo on opening day? That's gonna be the guy. 376 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 2: You know, just tenure led the team and saves. But 377 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 2: I think you know, on that graphic you're looking at 378 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: eight and six, it's not like he was a twenty 379 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 2: five or thirty saved guy. Versus you know five, I 380 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 2: think those guys are They're all going to get opportunities 381 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: as they should. Very quality big league arms, all have 382 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: swinging miss stuff, can get righty's and lefties out both 383 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 2: and I think that's why it's going to be a 384 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: strength to this team. 385 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: Again, Yeah, they were all really good and all you know, 386 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: to me a good choice if you say this guy's 387 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: gonna close out the game, all them have really good stuff. 388 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: All right, here's another question for you. A lot of 389 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: young guys in the mix, a lot of you know, 390 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: a lot of players want to get themselves on track. 391 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 4: Right they're they're gonna have run Gorman Walker. 392 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: I think Victor Scott the second needs to show more offense. 393 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 4: Of all the guys in the mix. 394 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: Right now, we don't know the final roster, but we 395 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: have a pretty good idea by this by this point, 396 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: who's the guy that's gonna take the biggest leap forward 397 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: this year? Could be a picture, could be one of 398 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: the guys I mentioned. And you're a smart guy, and 399 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna say it doesn't. Yes, it matters because baseball. 400 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: Here you are assuming my answer again, you know that's 401 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 2: really what I what really just you know gets me 402 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: going a little bit is when you assume the answer 403 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: that I'm. 404 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 3: Gonna give. 405 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: Man a little biased toward pitching. I'm gonna start with 406 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 2: a couple of these young pitchers. I don't think Libby 407 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: needs to prove much more. I think Libby has shown 408 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: what he's capable of, and you give him a full 409 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: season of health and you know, take the reins off 410 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: and let him go throw six seven nies every time. 411 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: I don't think that's a big step forward. I think 412 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 2: that's just him developing a little bit more. I think 413 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 2: McGreevy is a really interesting arm that I think could 414 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: take a step forward. I think in the age where 415 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 2: especially if you have a good pitching department like the 416 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 2: Cardinals do, and you have the ability to gain plan 417 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: and you have the ability to work the line and 418 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: pitch and not just out stuffed people. McGreevey has great stuff, 419 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, But he can pitch. He can 420 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: move the ball side to side on the plate, up 421 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 2: and down, and I think that's an art that's kind 422 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 2: of coming back a little bit in starters. So I 423 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: look for him to kind of take that step. I 424 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 2: think there's another young arm, whether it's Quinn Matthews. You know, 425 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 2: I don't know one of these guys we've traded for. 426 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,959 Speaker 2: I think, you know, those guys could be interesting cases 427 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 2: to make a step forward. But if we're just going 428 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 2: to go a guy on the Cardinals that I probably 429 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: know the most about and have high expectations for. 430 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: I think that step forward is McGreevy. 431 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 2: Offensively, I think for the for the health of the 432 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: Cardinals going forward as an organization. And I said this 433 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: in twenty toy four as well. I think there's a 434 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: lot of pressure on Jordan Walker and Nolan Gorman. 435 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 3: And those guys to take that next step. 436 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: And I kind of thought with Lance and toy toy 437 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 2: four that the Cardinals or the Cardinals are gonna kind 438 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: of go how those guys go until they decide to 439 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: replace them. So I hope for the sake of this 440 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 2: team and for the offense, that Walker and Gorman both 441 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: take that step forward and make that leap to kind 442 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: of solidify who they are, because I think it'll be 443 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: really really big for this team and it'll really stabilize 444 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: the middle of that order that I think could probably 445 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: use a little bit more thump with some of the 446 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 2: unknowns surrounding some of the players like Burley's got extra 447 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: base hit thump, but maybe not the thirty to forty. 448 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 3: Homer thump that Gorman could have. So I think Gorman and. 449 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: Walker could really add some slug to the middle of 450 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 2: this lineup. And you take a team that everybody's counting 451 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: out and put them as a team that, hey, if 452 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: we pitch and have a good back into the bullpen 453 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: and these couple of guys take a step forward. Now 454 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you're looking at a wildcard team. 455 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 2: Possibly that is really challenging people. 456 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: I think both those guys have done it before, certainly 457 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: capable to find it again. 458 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 4: I'm with you. 459 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out mine it and then we'll move 460 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: on to the final thing. I just like Kyle Lahey 461 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: great out of the pen. They're stretching them out to 462 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: CV can start and just watching him his repertoire, his 463 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: mound presence, and the fact that he wants the ball. 464 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 4: Now. 465 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: Granted he hasn't compiled a ton of innings because he 466 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: him been a starter, but that guy would throw three 467 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: days in a row if you want, He'd throw four 468 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: or five days in a row. Because he said whenever 469 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: they say you can have the ball, I'm gonna snatch it. 470 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: And I think that's the right attitude. I think his 471 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: stuff is good enough where it'll play as a starter. 472 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 4: Yes my thought. 473 00:23:58,720 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: I agree. 474 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 2: His stuff is really good, so was really good late 475 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: life to it. And he's got this kind of even 476 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: keel mindset where he can, you know, weather a little 477 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: bit of a storm here and there, has stuff to 478 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 2: get out of a jam. 479 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 3: So I agree. I think he's somebody that you know. 480 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: Once again, I think pitching is hopefully going to be 481 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: another strength of this team and it's going to keep 482 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 2: you in a lot of ball games. 483 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 3: And I think Coley's gonna be one of those guys 484 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 3: that does that. 485 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's up to the rotation to solidify. 486 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: I think that's the key, all right. Last thing, we 487 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: just had the Colt Long and Cardinal territory this week. 488 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: He was back as an instructor and the Cardinals are 489 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: big on that. I know a lot of teams do 490 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: that too, but what does that, in your opinion, do 491 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: to have veteran players come back and and kind of 492 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: share the wealth, share their knowledge with the younger players. Again, 493 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: the Cardinals do a lot of that, what is the 494 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: upside for young players just to be around that. 495 00:24:55,240 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 2: I think Colton is a perfect you know, player assistant 496 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: to come in. You know, he's a guy that has 497 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 2: gone through a lot of different adversity and in his career, 498 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: you know, overcoming certain things, changing teams, traded, just a 499 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: lot of things happen, right, and being able to speak 500 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 2: to all that is can be really helpful for for 501 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 2: certain players you know that are especially young in their career. So, 502 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 2: you know, I think everybody has a story to tell. 503 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: Everybody has different things that work for them, things that didn't. 504 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: And I think you know a lot of teams utilize 505 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: that utilize that aspect of their organization and utilize that 506 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 2: aspect of their alumni and and trying to bring them 507 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 2: into help. So you know, it's I think it's really 508 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: good because I also believe that a veteran presence. 509 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 3: Is really good. 510 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 2: Right, you know, there's going to be fans and people 511 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 2: are on talk ready to say, oh, what is a 512 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 2: big deal that Colton Wong's air. It's you know, it's 513 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 2: veteran leadership whatever that it's a thing or else. 514 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: Why would teams do this? You know, why? 515 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: Why is it important to have certain big league experience 516 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 2: on our coaching staff in certain positions because it just matters. 517 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: And you talk to Cole about his time with the Cardinals, 518 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: he gets like emotional. I mean, that guy loves the Cardinals. Kyle, 519 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it. We got along pretty good on 520 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: this episode, and I appreciate that there was very little bickery, 521 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: very little you know, we did. 522 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 2: It was good And because you know, I'm when I 523 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: got back from vacation, I really kind of thought we 524 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 2: were gonna move past the asking for followers and subscribers. 525 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 2: Obviously we didn't today. We didn't have it today. So 526 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 2: since we didn't have it, I'm gonna go ahead and 527 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: throw out a selfless plug. Since you didn't do it, 528 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 2: somebody has to do it. The charity that that Adam, 529 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: Wayne Wright and I are a part of that Wayne 530 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 2: ran start as Big League Impact. Any Cardinals fans are 531 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 2: going to know about that. This year, we're doing for 532 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: the first time a March Madness Bracket challenge, So head 533 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 2: over to big League Impact dot org slash March Madness. 534 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: You can sign up do anywhere from one to five 535 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: hopefully maybe even more brackets and the Grand Prize winner. 536 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 2: We have no MLB players signed up right now. The 537 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: grand prize winner gets to pick and on field meet 538 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 2: and greet with one of those nine players at a 539 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 2: stadium of their choice that that player is playing in. 540 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: So if you want to follow the Cardinals to Yankee 541 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: Stadium or wherever they go and do a meet and 542 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 2: greet with one of those players that's on that list, 543 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: you can. It's gonna be a really cool thing. But 544 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: first time we've ever done a bracket challenge, So head 545 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: to big League Impact dot org slas March Madness sign up. 546 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a lot of fun. 547 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: That group, Big League Impact does wonderful things, so everyone 548 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: get on board with that. And that wasn't a plug 549 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: that was helping others, So Kyli, I appreciate you. That's 550 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: gonna do it for this edition of Cardinal Territory. We'll 551 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: see you next time and hopefully that episode won't suck.