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Speaker 1: Really really, Donks look at us now, tip to tip.

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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. It is Friday, October sixteenth, twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: and it is time, ladies and gentlemen, donks and donkats

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Speaker 2: for Morning Combat. Hi everyone, my name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I am one half of your hosting duo. I am

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Speaker 2: joined by the gentleman on the other side of the screen.

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Speaker 2: He is the Brendan Conlin to my Tommy reared In.

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Speaker 2: It's the one and only Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: What's up, BC, I don't know what you're sitting here

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Speaker 1: wearing all this fat merch. Fired up after arguably, Luke,

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Speaker 1: arguably the greatest week in Morning Combat history. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we are not only giving it to the people with

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Speaker 1: the fist, we're turning it once we get inside. What

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Speaker 1: a time to be alive, What a time to wear

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Speaker 1: MK merch. I'm ready, I'm fired up. Can you feel

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Speaker 2: Not really? You also missed the importance of my intro there,

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Speaker 2: because if you'll note Tommy reared In gets choked out

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Speaker 2: by Brendan Conlin at the end of Warrior, and I

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Speaker 2: gave you the Brendan Conlin role. I feel like that's

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Speaker 2: a very honorable thing for me to do.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And just like Tommy reared In spoiler alert, you

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Speaker 1: definitely definitely will tap once I once I get into

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Speaker 1: one of these days, Luke, one of these days, brother.

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Speaker 2: Okay, although I was honorably discharged from the Marine Corps,

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Speaker 2: I did not desert my unit. Okay, we have a

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Speaker 2: lot to get to you on today's show. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: give you previews of the weekend Huge Weekend Invits or

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Speaker 2: Tega Korean Zombie. It's here, Lomachenko, Lopez, It's here. We

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Speaker 2: have to recap last night's Bellator and a couple other

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Speaker 2: a review of Warrior, which was the homework that I

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Speaker 2: If not, go pound sand BC. Before we get the

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Speaker 2: show started, though, we should let folks know you and

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Speaker 2: I sat down with interim UFC Lightweight Champion Justin Gates. You. Now,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot to this. I think this interview is

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Speaker 2: b C, what would you say about it?

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Speaker 1: He was in a mood, Yeah he was. He was

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Speaker 1: not care twice about it. Luke, I love that shit.

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Speaker 2: All right, So have a gander at this little sneak

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Speaker 2: preview of the interview.

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Speaker 1: All right, I like the respect that you've shown for

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Speaker 3: I'm here run Javier Mendez's day. I'm here to win

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Speaker 3: Mado's day. Fuck all those guys they already got I

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Speaker 1: Vasili Lomachenko, who Luke he may or may not just

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Speaker 1: What's going on here?

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Speaker 2: Let's get this party started. Topic number one. This was

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Speaker 1: Luke did that man? Connor McGregor just say that I'm

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Speaker 1: Final thought on this for me is this, Luke, I

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Speaker 1: You and I both don't believe that Connor has a

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Speaker 2: Right exactly how much of the first time were mind

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Speaker 2: be great to see. All right, let's set it up

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Speaker 2: here BC. This weekend, the UFC is on Fight Island

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Speaker 2: UFC Fight Island six a featherweight main event, and I

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Speaker 2: cannot wait. The Korean zombie is back. Brian Ortega, no

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Speaker 2: hair is back. He shaved his head prior to today's ways. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Let me time you out and say, Luke should be?

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Speaker 1: Is that a bad sign? Because I can make all

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Speaker 1: the Samson Old Testament jokes I want? But is that

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Speaker 2: Wait? Did he shave it off because he had to

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Speaker 4: That's the online speculation.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why there's speculation is if you look

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that means other than itself. But Okay,

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Speaker 2: the fight is incredibly interesting, and we've talked about the

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Speaker 2: What do you think we will see from these two?

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Speaker 1: I do believe it's going to be all action, and

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of elements here.

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Speaker 1: But if you told me he's going to commit to

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Speaker 4: In this moment.

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Speaker 2: So does that make you believe that it was planned

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Speaker 2: you all my new tricks. They're going to keep me safe,

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Speaker 2: He gets hit a lot, at least historically, he gets

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Speaker 2: defensive sensibilities. Early, does he get baited, if he gets tagged,

431
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Speaker 2: and then to what extent does he pull guard? Because

432
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Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna be able to take down

433
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Speaker 2: the Korean zombie.

434
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Speaker 4: I really want to.

435
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Speaker 1: I know you hate predictions and picks, and nobody really

436
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 1: knows obviously, Luke, you think the weatherman knows?

437
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

438
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Speaker 1: You don't need a weatherman to tell you which way

439
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Speaker 1: the wind blows.

440
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Speaker 2: It's a little bit. It's a little bit different than

441
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Speaker 2: the picking the weather. But okay, all right.

442
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Speaker 1: If I was a betting man, I'm staring clear of

443
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Speaker 1: Ortega in this fight. I just think there's too many

444
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Speaker 1: variables against him, and we can add the hair and

445
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 1: maybe the way cut with that without really knowing, obviously,

446
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 1: you never really know what's going on. But the two

447
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 1: years off going into a potential five round fight with

448
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Speaker 1: an absolute savage I like, you know, looking back at

449
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Speaker 1: Zombie's recent run. We've talked about it before. Four fights

450
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Speaker 1: since coming back from the military leave. He was winning

451
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Speaker 1: that yaear fight until literally the last second. He's three

452
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Speaker 1: and one, but he has rolled through people. He's incredibly confident,

453
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Speaker 1: he's evolved his game. And again, I just have those

454
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Speaker 1: fears that you get Ortega into some shit and he's

455
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Speaker 1: gonna start he's gonna start becoming the Ortega from La,

456
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And we're gonna have a war,

457
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Speaker 1: and this is gonna be Zombie's fight. Zombie might shread

458
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Speaker 1: this guy, he might do it. And I think Brian

459
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Speaker 1: Ortega is a beautiful man with the hair. I'd love

460
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Speaker 1: to hear what happened on the set with Halle Berry,

461
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Speaker 1: maybe him and I one day on an after hours podcast.

462
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Speaker 1: But I'm going big on the TKZ right here, and

463
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Speaker 1: you can do with that information what you please, Luke, Okay.

464
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, predictions, predictions are for suckers. But it's

465
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Speaker 2: just hard to It's not hard to pick or Tega.

466
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Speaker 2: It's just I don't know what the hell we're gonna

467
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 2: get two years away from the game, and not just

468
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Speaker 2: that two years away after a hillacious beating and then injuries.

469
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Speaker 2: Part of the reason why it took two years to

470
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Speaker 2: get back was because he got injured along the way.

471
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Speaker 2: Now not to the extent that it's utterly debilitating, but

472
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Speaker 2: enough where he just couldn't ever get going again. So

473
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Speaker 2: I'm sure he's added skills. I'm sure he's fully recovered,

474
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Speaker 2: and I expect him to perform to a very reasonable

475
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Speaker 2: level and potentially even win. I don't I don't think

476
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Speaker 2: that that's crazy at all. It's just dude, Korean Zombie

477
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Speaker 2: is I mean, what he did to Edgar, I mean

478
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Speaker 2: they have they have similar opponents. As good as Ortega

479
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 2: did against Edgar, I would say Zombie did better number one,

480
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 2: although that one uppercut from Ortego lifting Edgar off of

481
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: his feet was just magic. Okay, that's pretty good. But

482
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Speaker 2: the other part is they fought mo Kano, and you know,

483
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Speaker 2: Moikano gave or take everything he could handle. Kano could

484
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Speaker 2: do nothing to the Koreans set him to another weight classes.

485
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Speaker 2: What he did, I mean, it's pretty remarkable. His boxing

486
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: is so crisp, his power is legit, his fight IQ

487
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Speaker 2: as just I mean, he's been transformed. So for those reasons.

488
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Speaker 2: I think momentum is real. I'm gonna side with him.

489
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Speaker 2: But you know, listen, Brian Ortega back in the mix

490
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Speaker 2: of featherweight is not a problem. Great thing to have.

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Speaker 4: I got one question for you.

492
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Speaker 1: Dana said, the winner of this fight will we'll get

493
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Speaker 1: a title shot, and I agree with that. I'm fine

494
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Speaker 1: with that, I really am. Do you think Volkanowski fights

495
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Speaker 1: again before fighting the winner of this?

496
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Speaker 4: And who would that be? By missing somebody, Off the

497
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Speaker 4: top of my.

498
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Speaker 2: Head, I don't know who that would be. It would

499
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Speaker 2: have to be It's not gonna be Max. Are we

500
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Speaker 2: gonna do that shit again? Really? We're gonna make a

501
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 2: guy winna do that?

502
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Speaker 4: No, I'm not here for that.

503
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Speaker 1: Yeah, even though I thought Max one won, uh well

504
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Speaker 1: he won the second one.

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Speaker 2: Luke. Yeah, yeah, I understand, but you just can't do

506
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: that to a guy, not not right away anyway. So yeah,

507
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens there. But I suspect the winner

508
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 2: with this will fight uh Wolkanowski next. All right, So

509
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: now we go to the big boxing fight of the weekend.

510
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Speaker 2: Excuse me, we'll do it in a second. I'm wrong.

511
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Speaker 2: We'll do Beltore here and then we'll end on the

512
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Speaker 2: boxing here for our big topics Beltore two forty nine.

513
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Speaker 2: Last night, Mohegan Sun, what do you want to say, BC,

514
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: we had Chris Cyborg against Arlene Blencoe. Kind of ugly

515
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 2: in the end. I mean that was she was a

516
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Speaker 2: minus twelve hundred favorite. Cyborg was and I'm I'm honestly

517
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: wondering if those odds were conservative. Blenco looked to be

518
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,479
Speaker 2: in tremendous physical condition relative to previous physique she had

519
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: shown up with even in this weight class, she was

520
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: ready for the opportunity. It is from a physically training standpoint,

521
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Speaker 2: but from a skills standpoint, Holy smokes, she was totally overmatched.

522
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Speaker 2: We see, what's your major takeaway from it?

523
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so here's the deal.

524
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Speaker 1: Like the betting oddsmen were proven right in this regard,

525
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Speaker 1: but I still think we saw a very impressive performance

526
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Speaker 1: from Chris Cyborg from this aspect, not just that it's

527
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: amazingly the first submission win of her legendary fifteen year career.

528
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Speaker 1: But Luke, you know something you talk about in the

529
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Speaker 1: build to this, I had noticed this in Cyborgan in

530
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Speaker 1: throughout her UFC run. She's a lot more patient, certainly

531
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Speaker 1: than the old school Strikeforce days of just throw herself

532
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 1: into traffic and land big shots on you, but even

533
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Speaker 1: deeper than the efficiency that she's showing with age at

534
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Speaker 1: thirty five. To see how great she was on the ground,

535
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Speaker 1: with her wrestling, with her takedowns, with her work in

536
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Speaker 1: the stand clinch, and the ease in which she would

537
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Speaker 1: transition to full mount. Now, look, I mean, Arlene Blenco

538
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Speaker 1: is a former pro boxer. Her calling card is her

539
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: ability to throw hands. I'm not saying, you know, Cyborg's

540
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: in there with next level world class, but I'm seeing

541
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Speaker 1: a Cyborg who is in incredible shape, not stopping her

542
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 1: hard work and her evolution. We look a storyline that

543
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: will keep coming up each time she fights because she's

544
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Speaker 1: going to be so heavily favored.

545
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 4: Is when is she gonna show up old blah blah blah.

546
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's gonna happen anytime soon. And I

547
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: think that's the greatest victory that Cyborg had on Thursday

548
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: night was that we're seeing wrestling, We're seeing jesutes from her,

549
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 1: We're seeing everything. She's a legend. She's great. I wish

550
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: we did get the Amanda Newness rematch. I'm not really

551
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: sure who Belator can really give her now, Julia, but

552
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: I would be down for a rematch.

553
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 4: She had been the champion for a long time.

554
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Speaker 1: She comes back with a big win, maybe against Katsugano,

555
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: which they were talking about, I'd be fine with that.

556
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Speaker 1: But even though there was an argument from the Cyborg

557
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: Cocher side ahead of this fight that belt might actually

558
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: have the deepest one forty five division in the world,

559
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: which you gotta put a little last trisk there, because

560
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: there's not many actual one forty five divisions in this world.

561
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: UFC is putting out mostly blown up bantam weights. I

562
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: just don't know who Cyborg is going to get competition from,

563
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: and maybe this is what leads her to someone often

564
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: boxing but absolutely dominant. Shout out to her and Hey,

565
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: Arleen Blencoe, A little bit sneaky, A little bit sneaky.

566
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Speaker 4: Sorry, I got to say it. It's Friday. We can

567
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 4: say stuff like that. A little bit sneaky.

568
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 2: Yep, you got to sexualize all of the people that

569
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: we cover for a living. That's fine. Well, I mean,

570
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Speaker 2: I can't really add much to what you're saying, other

571
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 2: than the only thing I would add is and I

572
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 2: don't want it to get lost. It's not like Cybergorg

573
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Speaker 2: from her own personal preparation standpoint, is taking her foot

574
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Speaker 2: off the gas. She's still coming in in tremendous condition,

575
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: you know, submitting Arlene Blincoe. I'm sure that's something she

576
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Speaker 2: probably could have done a few years ago. So I

577
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Speaker 2: don't know how much it says about the growth of

578
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 2: her game, but she's at least trying new things. She

579
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: does train with Cobra Andre Galval, which is like, you know,

580
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 2: two titans of the jiu jitsu world, which I think

581
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 2: that stands. It tells you about her commitment to her craft.

582
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: And as long as she's doing that and she's staying

583
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 2: in reasonably good condition physically, which obviously she is, this

584
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: is a spot she should occupy for a long time.

585
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Speaker 2: The only thing that kills me is like, dude, Media,

586
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 2: I know you're there, and everyone wants to ask about

587
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: Amanda unas in what fucking universe is that fight going

588
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: to happen? Because it's not the one that we live

589
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 2: in now. Maybe you believe in the multiverse and there's

590
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: another universe where these guys we will in to co

591
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 2: promote and Scott Coker is, of course, but you know,

592
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: Dana White famously will never co promote, never has, never will.

593
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 2: So why are we bothering with this idea that, like

594
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 2: the Amanda Nunis fight, is something we can will into existence.

595
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: It's like a more professionalized version of that online thing

596
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: where people were rallying for Mark Hunt about seven or

597
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 2: eight years ago, which also ended up doing jack shit.

598
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 2: Please stop. It's not a thing that can happen. The

599
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: boxing thing literally can, because when she signed with Bellatore

600
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: they put a carve out in her career that would

601
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 2: allow her to do that. That is literally far more

602
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: likely than anything related to Amanda Newness. So please, media,

603
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 2: will you stop stop wasting everyone's time? Thank you? Thank

604
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 2: you in advance?

605
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: Are you in on our friends? Kott Koker's you know

606
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: hard stance that there is no argument. I know he

607
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: says this maybe for marketing purposes, but he believed Cyborg

608
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: is the greatest women's fighter of all time and a

609
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: quick loss to Amanda Newness in his mind, didn't change that.

610
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Speaker 4: Maybe there's a debate there, are you?

611
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: Do you have any thoughts on that debate?

612
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 2: Is there a debate there? BC? Is that not debate?

613
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 4: So thank you.

614
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: I love you. Cover.

615
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 4: There's not a debate, all right, thank you, Yeah, there's I.

616
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: Mean, she for it. I mean, I'll say this for Cyborg,

617
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: which is I think gets lost a little bit. The

618
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: longevity of her run is extraordinary. I mean, on national

619
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Speaker 2: TV as a pioneer, right fighting Gina Carano, and here

620
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: we are in twenty twenty, more than what ten plus

621
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Speaker 2: years later, whatever it is, and she's still out here

622
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Speaker 2: just bodying these I mean, that is remarkable. She's not

623
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: number one, but how do I explain this? She's number two?

624
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: And number three is so distant it's not even remotely.

625
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: We never bring members of our family on the show.

626
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: But Reggie Jackson just opened my office door that was locked,

627
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: and he's yelling.

628
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 4: So shout out to Reggie Jackson there.

629
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Speaker 2: All right, hey, look at Reggie. Why doesn't Reggie have

630
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: a collar, You fucking ape dude.

631
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 4: He's an indoor cat. What do you? What are you?

632
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: This isn't the same, This ain't the hard streets of DC.

633
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: All right, he's fine, leave them alone.

634
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: Uh, we got we got BC the finger painting Gorilla

635
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: and his favorite cat.

636
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: Tough break on Patrichy Pitbull. He had I don't know,

637
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: some ear issue he got pulled from the people.

638
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: Mate, Dude, he had labyrinth itis. I'd never even heard

639
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: of that.

640
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: Shit tough break on Sada Wad's ball bag. It wouldn't

641
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: be a Bellatoor car unless somebody gets kicked in the

642
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: dick there. But uh I, I do want to shout

643
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: out a couple of things on Bellatour. You know, we

644
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: know that October twenty ninth card is going to be

645
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: a banger and when you're gonna get usac a picture.

646
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: Right back to you. But Leandre Ego getting a great

647
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: win of a rickey bandejaus, he looked awesome.

648
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: Oh, shout out that that was good. That was a

649
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: sneaky good fight on paper and he dominated. Dude, he

650
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: made band has to look look see him punk on

651
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: the ground. I was very shocked by that. Who yeah, yeah.

652
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: The one thing I'd saved. He's hard to cut you

653
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: off is you know, we talk about what's the best

654
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: division in UFC one thirty five or one fifty five,

655
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: and you can have a debate, dude, the one thirty

656
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: five pound division in Bellatore is easily their best division,

657
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: and no small part to guys like Leandre Ego. That's

658
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: it's all iant and.

659
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Speaker 1: And you know this is where I'm going to give

660
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: bellatur legit credit. You know, it's one thing to sign

661
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: the old names that that you know from UFC to

662
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: get attention.

663
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 4: They are building from the bottom up the right way.

664
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Speaker 1: I mean, they just signed Mogo med Mogo Medoff, who

665
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: you know, his claim to fame was that he fought

666
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: Peter Young twice and he's the only guy to beat

667
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: him in that fight was an absolute war.

668
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 4: Shout out to Kaposa.

669
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Speaker 1: For turning me onto that and showing me some incredible

670
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: videos and gifts there on the interwebs. But uh, you know,

671
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: that's just another name you're adding to the depth of

672
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: what we have here. So I love what they're doing

673
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: those divisions. I love the announcement right that the Featherweight

674
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: Grand Prix will continue on two separate cards in November. Obviously,

675
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: as I was mentioning that October twenty ninth card with

676
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: Musasi and Lima is you know, just about as good

677
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: as it gets in all of MMA for that main event.

678
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: Something you said last night on CBS Sports HQ, shout

679
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: out to the family there, But uh, did you see

680
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: that tweet from Fabricio ver Doom. He put out a

681
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: picture of him and Fador basically kind of saying without saying,

682
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: that that rematch is gonna happen. Would you would you

683
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: get the feels for that if Belator trotted them out?

684
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: Honestly, Fador and ver Doom are sort of at the

685
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: same uber late stage portions of their careers. There actually

686
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: is a little bit of symmetry there, so for that reason,

687
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: I would not mind it. I guess what about you?

688
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: It's old guyslop give it. Just give it to me,

689
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

690
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 4: You can bring a boom.

691
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: Why did I even bother? Why did I even bother asking?

692
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.

693
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: I want to see it.

694
00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: I want to see it.

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00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: It'll be yeah. I want to see it, though, Okay,

696
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: let's do it please. I'm not done with Fador, but

697
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm also I don't want to see Fador against Bedor.

698
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 4: Either, right, I'm stright.

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00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: Was it Beader Fader or Fad or Bedor? I always

700
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: get that confused, kind of like I can't say air hair?

701
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: Is it here here? Air hair?

702
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: Coco the finger painting Gorilla? Why are you derailing the

703
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: show by the way one last note here on the

704
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: premium card. I was like, oh, pay attention to Kyle Krutchmer,

705
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: this international class wrestler and from Oklahoma State. He lost

706
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: to this dude, Cameron Lakanov Latchanov. I'm not sure I

707
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: pronounced it. He was literally getting punched in the face

708
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 2: by Krutchmer and then screaming at him that's all you have.

709
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: And actually ended up on the Instagram account for Sports Center.

710
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: And this dude Lakanov Lachenov, whatever it is, he might

711
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: be pretty good. He's ten and two at one hundred

712
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: and seventy pounds. Dude beating cut Krutschmer is no small feet.

713
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, all right, you got my attention

714
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: with that, and.

715
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out on Monday if you have seen

716
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: that shit. We're also gonna find out on Monday from

717
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: Thursday Night's car My guy, right, Aviv Gozali is that

718
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: his name? The nineteen year old from Israel. Another spectacular submission.

719
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: Four and oh in belt Or even though you know,

720
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: sell the shit out of this guy every time I

721
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: bring up his name. Hey a Vive, I'm here for you, bro, Okay,

722
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: let's do that shit.

723
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: I just no sell the apartheid state of Israel. That's

724
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: what I know.

725
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: Sel Okay, separate, could you separate? Please? Please?

726
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: Could you separate?

727
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: Can I? I mean the dude comes out with like

728
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: the Israeli flag and everything, and it's on his shorts.

729
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: It's like, it's like, I'll separate it when you separate it.

730
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: But okay, if you don't, then I'm gonna call what

731
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: it is. It's an apartheid state. Okay. Last, but not

732
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: at least BC, we.

733
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: Have a age war crimes in Doha these days, come on.

734
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but everyone says that. I mean, you know,

735
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,479
Speaker 2: Middle East is full of just absolute you know, uh,

736
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: total dictatorships left and right, but no one, no one

737
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: has any trouble noting that it's not you know, there's

738
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: a bit of a different world.

739
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: Okay, World Cup crimes too, Yes, a lot of coal

740
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: you can't do.

741
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: The World Cup cannot be washed in twenty twenty two.

742
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: Amount of a slave labor that was put to use

743
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: to make those stadiums usable is a complete crime against humanity.

744
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: And I mean that's sincerely all right. The Middle least

745
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: is fucked up, all right. So let's move on to

746
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: this last topic of our Big four Vasilli Lomachenko Teo

747
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: Fimo Lopez. It is finally here BC. I was looking

748
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: around at various folks' previews to see what they'd say. BC. Now,

749
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: I try to be as educated on the fight science

750
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: as I can be. I will. I'm a student now,

751
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: I will be a student forever. I will never be

752
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: an expert. I am not an expert, but I try

753
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 2: to at least be literate on matters as best I can.

754
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 2: And everyone I've seen who appears to be more literate

755
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: than me says Lomachenko is gonna wipe the floor with him.

756
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: Now would that be a surprise given everything we've seen

757
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: from Lomachenko against other fighters? Bless so at one thirty five,

758
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: but in general, Noah would not. However, I have to

759
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: tell you I don't see that Lomachenko winning. I think

760
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: is the right call winning. Would this kind of you know,

761
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: overwhelming ease? Why why do people say this? What am

762
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: I seeing that a lot of other folks are not

763
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: seeing when it comes to Teo Femo Lopez.

764
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 4: In terms of his chances in this fight.

765
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: In terms of like, why is it when I look

766
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: at this guy I see somebody who is skilled, who

767
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 2: makes quick reads, who is big for the weight class,

768
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: who is heavy handed, who is athletic, who has total

769
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: self belief, and yes, is he as skilled as Lomachenko.

770
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: I don't think that he is. And in the end,

771
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: maybe skills win fights. They tend to be that case.

772
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: But the idea that Lomachenko is just going to walk

773
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: over him, I will say, I'll be surprised if that happens.

774
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: I can't wait for this fight. And the reason ultimately

775
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: is that great unknown that you said. I mean, they

776
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: both have fifteen pro fights, but it couldn't be more

777
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: different in terms of the experience level. Like Lomachenko won

778
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: two gold medals in the Olympics and had this long

779
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: amateur career and then started fighting world class opposition, and

780
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: like his pro debut, fafford titles in his second and

781
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: third five. You know, he's won titles in three divisions

782
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: and fifteen pro fights and has fought nothing but killers.

783
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: Tao's got fifteen pro fights, look, and he's got you know,

784
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: maybe two world class opponents. You know, he beat Diego

785
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: Magdaleno and then he in December he moved up to

786
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: face Richard comy for that IBF belt and destroyed him

787
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: in a round and a half. And it's what we

788
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: don't know about Lopez that ultimately makes this which is

789
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: what I've called kind of a pseudo fifty to fifty fight. Now, again,

790
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: it's not a fifty to fifty fight on the betting odds.

791
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 4: It's not a fifty to fifty.

792
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: Fight to the fans in the experts you just mentioned

793
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: to are like, oh, come on, hell no, Loma's gonna

794
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 1: teach this guy a lesson.

795
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 4: But it's fifty to fifty on the.

796
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: Stance that I really don't think you can be confident

797
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: either way and picking this fight because of one important thing. Now,

798
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: when this fight was first talked about, it was before

799
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: Lopez had went up and done that to Kome. It

800
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: was when he struggled a bit with Nakatani and that

801
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: decision whin. But again, there were a lot of factors

802
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: behind the scenes in terms of family drama that contributed

803
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: to that. When they first announced that this fight was

804
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: thought about, I'm like, no, come on, Lopez is you know,

805
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: he's twenty two at the time. He doesn't have the

806
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: pro experience. This may be a Fernando Vargas situation all

807
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: over again. Vargas, you know, was an incredible at twenty

808
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: one twenty two, and then at age twenty three he

809
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: moved up and fought Tino Trinidad, took an absolute beating

810
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: in one of the best fights of this century. Two

811
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: fights later, same thing happened against Da la Joya, and

812
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: really Vargas, despite being a big name, never really fulfilled

813
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: his full potential here. But the more you look at

814
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: what Lopez actually does and what actually makes him dangerous,

815
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that is the potential kryptonite on how

816
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: someone is going to give Lomachenko a problem. I said

817
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: it before in the build up to this fight on

818
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: Morning Combat. Lomachenko is so abstract in his game plan

819
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: that traditional boxers just can't figure him out. The footworks,

820
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: off the charts, the angles, all that stuff.

821
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 4: But he's never fought.

822
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: A guy who is the same in his own way.

823
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: In his own style, Lopez doesn't follow traditional patterns. He

824
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: hasn't come in with a regular jab in a right

825
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 1: over the top. He does leaping Roy Jones shit, stuff

826
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: that you can't do unless you're a freak athlete, unless

827
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: you have the power to make it count. And unless

828
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: you have a ball bag the size of the Lopez family,

829
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: which I'm telling you, the more you look at this

830
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: father and son trainer team, you can't figure out if

831
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: they're just crazy as shit and they're over their head

832
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: and they're gonna drown, or if maybe they know something.

833
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: I think there is something to what you said, Luke

834
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: about the confidence and courage here. Lopez doesn't know in

835
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: some ways that you're not supposed to do this at

836
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: twenty three and come in and be this confident and

837
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: believe you're gonna knock out Lomachenko, and that may be

838
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: the thing that helps him find success. Is it most

839
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: likely that Lomachenko is just gonna give him problems all

840
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: night and that twelve round bell is gonna get hit,

841
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be ten rounds to two for Loma. Maybe,

842
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: But the first three four rounds here, Luke, it's gonna

843
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: be high volume theater, high level theater here. Because I

844
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: don't care how great Loma is, and he's spectacular, he

845
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: can't prepare in the gym for a guy like this,

846
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: a guy so unorthodox, a guy so young, athletic, strong

847
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: and ballsy. That's the key to this fight, and when

848
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: I watch the Tayo Femo tape, like you, I just

849
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: come away going, dude, there's something here that is just

850
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: different and special.

851
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: So I can't wait.

852
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: Most importantly, Luke, for you know, obviously early in the fight,

853
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: but really the first six rounds, Lopez will retain the

854
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: one punch chance throughout the whole fight, right, He'll never

855
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: really be out of it. But the later this fight gets,

856
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: when you consider his age, his lack of experience at

857
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: this level, it's more likely that Lomachenko is just gonna

858
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: set traps frustrate him, and that, like I said, that

859
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: twelve round distance is gonna show up sooner than later.

860
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: I need to see within the first four rounds basically,

861
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: if Lopez can make adjustments and if he can land

862
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: something of substance to make Lomachenko realize I can't be

863
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: the full wizard here because this guy's a little bit

864
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: too dangerous. That Luke is when the real fight will start.

865
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: If if you're a Loma guy and you're saying, BC,

866
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: you're crazy, you got a heart on for this kid, bro,

867
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: watch the tape.

868
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 4: Okay, we're gonna find out.

869
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: That's why we love to see these fights because we

870
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: don't freaking know. I don't know how great Lopez can be.

871
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure he does. But that unknown is

872
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: what makes it.

873
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 4: Brother. Nobody has the potential to.

874
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: Do to Lomachenko what Lopez has the chance on Saturday night,

875
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm fired the hell up.

876
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 2: So I was looking up ahead of time for the

877
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: prep for today's show. Is looking up. What were boxing experts, insiders, media, whoever,

878
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: what were they saying prior to the last fight that

879
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: Lopez had, which was against Richard Comy, as you indicated,

880
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: and the odds had it, as we talked about, I

881
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: think on last Wednesday show, the odds had it had

882
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: roughly a pick them, so the odds makers knew that

883
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: it was going to be close. But gun to the

884
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 2: head scenario, Lomachenko thought Komy was gonna win. He said

885
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: so outright. Numerous and I do mean numerous. In fact,

886
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 2: the vast majority of media that I saw had picked Komy.

887
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 2: And then the reason why they pick Komy was one

888
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: that he was going to be able to drag it

889
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: out and make it sort of a more of a

890
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: technical boxing match over the course of the distance, and

891
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: that he had looked better in his recent fights. Now

892
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: you're right, the Nakatani fight was not the best showcase

893
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: of Lopez. He is still trying to figure everything out. However,

894
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: I don't do predictions for this reason. I'm not bagging

895
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 2: on everybody who gets predictions wrong, because hello, I've gotten

896
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 2: some whoppers wrong before. That's why they're that hard to do.

897
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 2: But it does serve my theory BC that people see

898
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: something in Lopez missing that I don't. When I watched Lopez, dude,

899
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: he does not move like other boxers need is Lomachenko.

900
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: For that reason, I'm not saying they move identically, but

901
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: sometimes see you know this, and this is a little

902
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 2: bit subjective, it's not science. Sometimes you watch a fighter, MMA, whatever,

903
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: and they jump off the screen and you immediately get

904
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 2: latched onto them. Because they don't do things commonly the

905
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: way other ones do. You can just tell right away

906
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: something is different with them. When Kabebe was making his

907
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: way through the division, you were like, dude, he's doing

908
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: this in a way that people don't or pick anybody else.

909
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: John Jones when he was throwing stuff in Bonner and

910
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: then bludgeting and breaking the face of Brandon Vera and

911
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: then making short work of matt Ushenko. You were like,

912
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,959
Speaker 2: holy shit, man, this guy, Like what is happening here, dude?

913
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: Lopez jumps off the screen like that to me, to me,

914
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 2: and that's not science, that's subjectivity. But when I see

915
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: this kid, I'm like, dude, I don't know why everyone

916
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: is committed to this idea that because he is young

917
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: and unrefined, he is not that great. He is not

918
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: the put together package that Lomachenko is. But what he

919
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: has great decision making, excellent athleticism, huge power, and a

920
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: willingness to rise and an ability to rise to the challenge.

921
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: For folks who may not know what happened in his

922
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: last fight, when the boxing world thought Komi was gonna

923
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: beat him, Lopez knocked his ass out inside of two

924
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 2: and with one punch. By the way, that was it.

925
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: That's what this kid can do. Everyone says he's okay,

926
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: and then he goes in there and lands a thunderous

927
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: shot over someone people thought was gonna be able to

928
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 2: be the better boxer. I am telling you now, man, listen,

929
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: Lomachenko is as special as advertised. Take him seriously and

930
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: whatever else that Lopez and his father say, I know

931
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: they take him seriously. He probably should win because he

932
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: is the more developed product. Lopez I think is gonna

933
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: turn some heads and one of those might be Lomachenko's

934
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 2: on Saturday night.

935
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: And wow, well said there, and we wouldn't be this

936
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: confident about Lopez's potential chances, Luke, if Lomachenko wasn't admittedly

937
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: even from himself, at a weight class that's above his

938
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: optimum level, right like, he could still be fighting at

939
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: one twenty six if everybody was willing to fight him.

940
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: He said yesterday that one thirty probably would be his

941
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: best weight. He also said I don't think I can

942
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: ever go above one thirty five. And again all his

943
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: four fights there he is four and oh got dropped

944
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: by Lenares Pedraza and Luke Campbell had moments. Those guys

945
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: are not the punchers Lopez is. They're not as brash

946
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: or braven either, So that's a threat. But it's all

947
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: gonna come down to how good of a boxer is

948
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: Lopez really. He told me in that interview on Morning

949
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: Combat this week that you know that unknown he knows

950
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: what he's got in the tank.

951
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 4: He knows he can buy he doesn't have to show it.

952
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. And while the Knakatani fight, I

953
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: say throw it out because you have to understand, if

954
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: you know the family's backstory, the dad and trainer is

955
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: bat shit crazy straight up. I mean, there's actually a

956
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: top rank producer who's pre fight document.

957
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: Who's crazier Lopez Senior or Angel Garcia.

958
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: He's pretty close, but I'm actually gonna go Lopez Senior

959
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: in this regard.

960
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 4: There's actually to things.

961
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: Got a blood, sweat and tears pre fight documentary series

962
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: out there on YouTube. In the second episode has this

963
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: weird stretch where Lopez talks about him and his dad

964
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: had a falling out re and Lopez is crying saying,

965
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: you know, he used to be my hero. Now I'm

966
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 1: realizing I have to look up to myself. I mean, look,

967
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: there's some ish going on there. And ahead of that

968
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: Nakatani fight, Like, to be full disclosure, Lopez got married.

969
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 4: His family hates his wife.

970
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: They were like all fighting in the locker room and

971
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: on the way to the ring. As he's walking to

972
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: the fight, he was more worried in the ring that

973
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: night that his wife was gonna be okay against his

974
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: own family members. Okay, is that an excuse at the

975
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: end of the day, Well, if he had lost, you

976
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: could say it was. But he did right the ship

977
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: laid against Nakatani. It wasn't inspiring, it wasn't exciting. He

978
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: figured out how to win with his jab. We hadn't

979
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: seen that out of him. Was not a great performance,

980
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: but he avoided the Titanic basically in that moment. He's

981
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: gonna have to show us that he can box if

982
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: he does not tag Lomachenko early. But yeah, this is

983
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: everything I want, Luke. I want to predict Lopez will

984
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: do it. But you know, the deeper you get into this,

985
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: the more you watch the interviews, the more you try

986
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: to play the head games, the more you watch the ape.

987
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: Good god, Lomachenko is everything.

988
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 4: I mean, he really is.

989
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: He didn't want to talk to me, Luke, about whether

990
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: this is his era or if he's the pound for

991
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: pound king, and look, rightfully, so it's fine, Okay, he

992
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: just wants to get in there and fight. But he's

993
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 1: a gorgeous, beautiful artist. The bet is that he wins

994
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: by decision. Gun to my head, he wins by decision.

995
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: But man, can I not wait to see what Lopez

996
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: can do.

997
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: I am too much of a total puss to pick Lopez,

998
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: I really am. And also I have too much respect

999
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: for Lomachenko and what he has shown across Wait. Lomachenko

1000
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: has shown you, like shown you actually in a fight.

1001
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: He has shown you a more complete upside. If you're

1002
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: banking on Lopez, you are being much more speculative, and

1003
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 2: I think that is the difference. You're like, well, I've

1004
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: not seen it, but I think it's there with Lomachenko.

1005
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 2: You know it's there, and that I think is creating

1006
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: this gap. I just hope folks understand that a lot

1007
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 2: of this talk about Lopez, I've seen it consistent. They

1008
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: did it with It's something interesting. It's like these greats

1009
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 2: that come up and Lopez hasn't done the same as Atasanya.

1010
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 2: The comparisons are not fair. And I hate to cross

1011
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: sports too, but I know our audience would more readily

1012
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: understand it and make comparison. But it's like when Attasanya

1013
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: was coming up, It's like, he ain't shit against Vittori.

1014
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 2: He ain't shit against you know, Brad Tavares. He ain't

1015
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: shit against Brunson. Eh, and it's like he's never anything

1016
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: all the way up through one of the most incredible

1017
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: UFC runs ever. It's like it's like, at what point

1018
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: is he something? Lopez is not that far along in

1019
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: his journey. This would be a major the most major step.

1020
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: But I gotta tell you BC, I cannot wait. By

1021
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: the way, for the for the folks who are watching

1022
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: the show right now, the main event for the UFC

1023
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: should air at a different time than the main We're

1024
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 2: getting lucky here.

1025
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: We're getting lucky here that ESPN is broadcasting both. So

1026
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: it looks like a seven pm Eastern start time for

1027
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: the UFC main card, Luke, And that should end in

1028
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: time for you know, the ten pm Eastern start time

1029
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: of the boxing main card. I think the Loma Chank

1030
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: fight is the fourth fight on that main card, so

1031
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 1: that'll probably go, you know, closer to midnight. But fired

1032
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: up a lot of our listeners in viewers astutely made

1033
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: this comparison, Luke, that Lomachenko Lopez is not too far

1034
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: off from Canelo Mayweather. Canelo was also twenty three in

1035
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: that fight, as we remember, though he fought a horrible

1036
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: game plan. He tried to outbox the greatest boxer of

1037
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: this era and never once really put his foot on

1038
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: the gas and tried to make it a fight. I

1039
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: do believe that should Lopez find himself down, you know,

1040
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: seven rounds to one, he's gonna go for it, because

1041
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna have to do in that situation.

1042
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then last thing I'd say is, you know,

1043
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: I'll give credit where it's due. ESPN is putting on

1044
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 2: Lomachenko and Lopez essentially for free or you know, through

1045
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 2: a cable subscription with their ESPN television channel. There's no

1046
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 2: pay per view for this nothing. Just turn on your

1047
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: TV if you've got cable or YouTube TV or whatever.

1048
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 2: It's right there. And then on ESPN Plus we're gonna

1049
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 2: get Ortega and Korean Zombie. They've got two great main

1050
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 2: events across two platforms on the same weekend. You know,

1051
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: this is why we people are like, what did Scott

1052
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: Van Pelt say about you know, blah blah blah and knockout.

1053
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 2: It's like, who gives a ship? Look at what they're doing.

1054
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 2: If you're a fight fan, I'll say it again, never

1055
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: been a better time to be a fight fan in

1056
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: the history of the universe. Enjoy what we have.

1057
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, future ving the employee. Luke Thomas right there?

1058
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, don't that that didn't recognize this guy.

1059
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: They don't want to pay this guy. They don't want

1060
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: to They don't want to help my kid into travel soccer.

1061
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 4: All right.

1062
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: Hey, Diney's got issues with communist China too. All right, well,

1063
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: enough of that nonsense. BC, You and I we're idiots.

1064
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: We get things wrong all the time. Take it away.

1065
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 2: So it's time to pay the piper.

1066
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is time to pay up in uh and

1067
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: and and yeah, face the.

1068
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 4: Music here, we call it dead wrong.

1069
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: Let's go through the things that we missed this week.

1070
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: Luke uh. The first person to auction off their corner

1071
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: spot in UFC history apparently isn't Mike Perry. Yes, we

1072
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: have to give the credit to the recent idea, apparently

1073
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: to the podcast of what's his name?

1074
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 4: Josh Thompson? Was it the podcast anyway?

1075
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: Weighing in?

1076
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 4: Thank you?

1077
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: Weighing in?

1078
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 4: Great podcast.

1079
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: Evan Tanner apparently was the first one to actually auction

1080
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: off his corner the late Tenner UFC middleweight champ.

1081
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, when did he do that? What's the story there?

1082
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: Well, here's the wording from an old article that our

1083
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: crack research team. Additionally, Tanner has a special package. Wow,

1084
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: I like to see that available once per fight.

1085
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: For He's dead, He's dead, Oh God.

1086
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: Once per fight for an individual sponsor who essentially becomes

1087
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: a cornerman for Tanner. The sponsor will accompany Tanner to

1088
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: the Wayans the day before the event, and on fight

1089
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: night he or she will be in the dressing room

1090
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: and accompany him to the octagon.

1091
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 4: So basically, what Tanner.

1092
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: Was auctioning off with somebody to be a human billboard.

1093
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: Right, that's interesting. Always remember this. You have to get

1094
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: a cornerman's license, now, ifle TORII Gonzowski get one without

1095
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 2: a combative background. I suppose that they are not so

1096
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: scrutinizing with it in terms of what your preparation is

1097
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 2: to be in that role with a speci occupational skills.

1098
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: But I did not. Honestly, Sometimes on we do dead

1099
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: wrong and I'm like, oh, I should have known better,

1100
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: or I did know better and I just messed it up.

1101
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 2: I did not know this. I did not know that

1102
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 2: Evan Tanner did this, or if I did, I completely forgot.

1103
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: So okay, you got us you got us good with

1104
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: that one.

1105
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: Luke, Are you okay with very pregnant coach Littory entering

1106
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: into COVID bubbles to.

1107
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 2: Be there for the just the second time? I think

1108
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: you've asked me this, which is a very weird obsession

1109
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 2: of yours. So why don't we leave it alone? All right?

1110
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1111
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: I don't need Mike Perry offering to kill you as well?

1112
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: All right?

1113
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: Our second dead wrong of the week, Luke, Maybe the

1114
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: third will be me if I keep bringing up Mike

1115
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: Perry's name. Luke, on our Monday show, you said at

1116
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: apparently the eleven to fifteen am mark that Marlon ma

1117
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: Reich was a former I guess people think you were

1118
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: alluding to former UFC champion and you.

1119
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 2: Got I think I said, I think I said UFC champion.

1120
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Luke, you got lit the hell up. In the comments,

1121
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: people coming for your soul. People were like Elli and

1122
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: Gonzalez's father were coming for you. Bro Okay, shout out

1123
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: to that Hispanic man, Luke, Uh, could you uh do

1124
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: your Maya calper You meant World Series of Fighting correct?

1125
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 2: Well? You know I no even well that I knew

1126
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: that part. I'll say for sure, here's what I just

1127
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: completely forgot. I somehow in my mind had it that

1128
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: Marlin was the champion when Sahudo beat him. But of

1129
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: course that's not the case. They were competing for a

1130
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 2: vacant title. Y that was the reality, so everyone knew

1131
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 2: he was the World Series Fire Champion. He had that

1132
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 2: belt forever. But uh, I watched it. I comply for

1133
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: my brain just did not work appropriately that time. So

1134
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: you know what, miacolpa, I'm guilty, guilty as charge, suh.

1135
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: All right, all right, uh so our producers have I

1136
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: don't think this is dead wrong. Our producers have given

1137
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: us a note here. This sounds dead right to me.

1138
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: They're saying, Brendan Schab, actually.

1139
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: I know, I know what, I know what the I

1140
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: know what the issue is here, but go ahead.

1141
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brendan Schob actually did give Corey Sandhagen his nickname

1142
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: of the Sandman on the below the belt. All so,

1143
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: it was in food truck diaries as well.

1144
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: That's right, that's what you got wrong. You said it

1145
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 2: was food truck diaries. It was not. It was below

1146
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 2: the belt that was.

1147
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: I thought there was there or something. But when breaking

1148
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: we made a post and Corey reposted it, changed his

1149
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: ig handle and made it his nickname.

1150
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 4: Well done, Big Brown.

1151
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: Sorry your guy Big Beige got it wrong, Luke. I

1152
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: did want to give you the double shout out your

1153
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: interview with Corey Sandhagen this week on the MK YouTube page.

1154
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: Very very intellectual and well done. I mean, that's what

1155
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: you bring to the table. I almost think you're so

1156
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: good at your job breaking down people's style, Luke, that

1157
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: eventually they're going to turn on you and send you

1158
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: to hell for exposing them.

1159
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: Uh No, but you know what's happened recently is I've

1160
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: actually had fighters and coaches asked me to do it

1161
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 2: for them. That has happened, which is pretty.

1162
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: Excited sidework here, well sidework action.

1163
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 2: I like, no, I haven't done it. I haven't done it.

1164
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: But I was always shocked by that. I was like,

1165
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 2: holy shit, Okay, all right, but now it's happened like

1166
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: a dozen times. So you know what, let's.

1167
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, so yeah, suck the horn. Here we go,

1168
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 4: let's move on.

1169
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: Are dead wrong from last week was me admitting that

1170
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: I got it wrong. It wasn't Pazuka Joe as the

1171
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 1: bell Tor Season one guy. It was Jason Chambers. But

1172
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: you said, Hey, Jason Chambers did the Human Weapon with

1173
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith. That's dead wrong, ahole. Jason Chambers did Human

1174
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: Weapon with Bill Duff. Jimmy Smith did Fight Quest with

1175
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 1: Doug Anderson, a much better, more hardcore show.

1176
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 4: According to whoever wrote this.

1177
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: Uh, and apparently the two shows are confused and we're

1178
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 2: filmed around the same time. The producer notes say, Jimmy

1179
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 2: and Jason had an MMA match before both shows started filming,

1180
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: and Jimmy won by submission. Jimmy is a beast. Jimmy's

1181
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: a beast. Yeah, you know.

1182
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy was one of the early color commentators on America

1183
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: Ninja Warrior one season.

1184
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 2: You remember that, Wait, what is that true?

1185
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 4: That is true?

1186
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: Now they have the tried and true team of Matt

1187
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 1: Eisman and the White Guy and then the x NFL

1188
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: guy Cabaja ak Bila ak par Cabaja Camillia.

1189
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 4: You know that guy.

1190
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 2: Oh. I interviewed him for Super Bowl Radio last year.

1191
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 2: He's done.

1192
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: I love those guys. I love that show, my kids

1193
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: love that show, my family does. But yes, Jimmy Smith

1194
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: was like season two I.

1195
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 4: Think or something.

1196
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: He was the the uh you know, the the ooh

1197
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 1: and Ah color commentator guy, Yeah.

1198
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: That is crazy. I had no idea. That's amazing. Well,

1199
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: you know what, I fucked that one up too, But

1200
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: they you know, to my in my defense, they were

1201
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 2: very similar shows. I mean, I can tell you the

1202
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 2: differences if they were airing at the time, and I

1203
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: remember thinking about some of the differences. But in retrospect,

1204
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 2: could you tell me the difference between Fight Quest and

1205
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: Human Weapon in great detail? And also who the fuck

1206
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: is Doug Anderson? I don't know, and who's Bill Duff?

1207
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1208
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: Whose motherfuckers are Deff Beer I don't know.

1209
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. I like how all the dead wrongs

1210
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: were about me, I mean one of them.

1211
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: Well, I got a couple here, they're not on the list.

1212
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 4: I got a couple. All right, Well we.

1213
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: Are collectively dead wrong. But first of all, Jimmy Smith

1214
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: replaced you were false on Sirius xm uh.

1215
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: Yes, but I'm the one who got him hired.

1216
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: So no, I'm not saying this in a negative since

1217
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: I'm saying like I haven't heard, I haven't heard the

1218
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: show since he replaced you.

1219
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 4: As he's doing well. I love Jimmy.

1220
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 2: He is doing extremely well. He is he is. You

1221
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 2: know what happened to him with his commentary as a crime.

1222
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 2: And when he lost that job, I called him right

1223
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: away and I was like, we got a job for

1224
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: you here, and he kind of played the role of

1225
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: like tempt dude. You know, I wasn't happy to leave

1226
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: Sirius XM. But what made me happy to leave it

1227
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 2: in that sense was I knew they were going to

1228
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 2: be in good hands. He is fucking killing it over

1229
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: there because he's super smart. It's super good at that job.

1230
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: All right. We had a debate on Wednesday at Monday Show.

1231
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Luke about Joaquen Buckley's knockout. Where did it

1232
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: fit in the greatest knockouts in NIM history? You and

1233
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: I started sharing our favorites. We compare and contrasted. The

1234
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: people lost their shit that we didn't bring up the

1235
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: following knockouts in that discussion.

1236
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 4: So I'll tell you we were dead wrong.

1237
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: Ben Asgrin, Jorge Masvidal Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dan Henderson, Michael

1238
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: Bisping Yeah. And here's the one that I regret not

1239
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: adding there. Yahya Rodriguez Korean Zombie. I think of those three, Luke,

1240
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: I give ya years one the best chance of competing

1241
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: for that number one spot.

1242
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 2: By the way, my daughter is hammering the door. Can

1243
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 2: you hear it? Oh?

1244
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: I thought that was Reggie Jackson the cat all right, that.

1245
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 2: Is not Reggie Jackson. That is my daughter. She keeps

1246
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: doing so I'm gonna bring her on the air because

1247
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 2: that is crazy.

1248
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: But okay, Friday, Luke Friday, we don't have to wear

1249
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: since we can bring our family on the show.

1250
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 2: It's whatever, right, Listen. We were not giving an exhaustive

1251
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 2: review of all the best KOs. We were coming up

1252
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 2: with it off the top of our heads, dingleberries. So yes,

1253
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 2: could there have been a better list, of course there

1254
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 2: could have been, but it wasn't like that was our

1255
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: edited Like you and I sat down with a pen

1256
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: and paper and made a list and then, oh, you

1257
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 2: know what, what about Askarin and maswt Let's scratch that

1258
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 2: one off. We didn't do that shit. We're just ad libbing,

1259
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 2: all right.

1260
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 4: Here's what I was dead wrong on this week.

1261
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,959
Speaker 1: A couple of times I mentioned Loman having that really

1262
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: fun fight with Jorge Lanaries in which he got dropped.

1263
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: I had made reference that it went the distance. Somebody

1264
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: jumped in with a YouTube comment here to send me straight.

1265
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: Do we have that or are we not gonna shout

1266
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: this guy out?

1267
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 4: Where are we at there?

1268
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, it was a bit what they're right.

1269
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 4: The guy jumped in. He sent me to hell.

1270
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: It was a tenth round TKO in which Leonars got dropped.

1271
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 4: It looked like he could get up, Luke.

1272
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: It almost looked like he was just like, no, Maschenko,

1273
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm good.

1274
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 4: You know.

1275
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: It was a fun fight, but that's it. So that

1276
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: did not go the distance, No harm, no foul.

1277
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 4: I screwed it up.

1278
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: It was the It was the sniper Padraza fight right

1279
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: after that did and one more on Dead Wrong. It's

1280
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: not gonna be us. I'm gonna spin it back on

1281
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: the people. I made a reference in that solo Morning

1282
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: Combat video I did this week of the five reasons

1283
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: why I love this Lopez Lomachenko fight. That Lomachenko's only

1284
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: pro loss his second fight, the title fight against against Solito,

1285
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: right the action hero, I said, you know, he kind

1286
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: of got robbed on the scorecards. Hey guys, everyone that

1287
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 1: came at me this week, it's not dead wrong, You're

1288
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: dead wrong. Wamachenko did get robbed on the score. You

1289
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: got robbed many ways. Look, I'm not saying that's the

1290
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: reason why he lost. The reason why Lomachenko lost that

1291
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: fight ultimately was that he wasn't ready for somebody who

1292
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: could put on the pressure, could fight dirty, could be

1293
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: all up in his ass the whole damn night.

1294
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 4: Wow, shout out the little lady here.

1295
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: Uh. He also got screwed on the cards, though Lawrence

1296
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: called the referee screwed him with all those dong shots

1297
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, let's.

1298
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 4: Bring on Luke's daughter here.

1299
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: Please, can we get me stuff talking about dongs?

1300
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: Can you say hi? Say hi? Say o la? Yes?

1301
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: Can you can you say apple? Yeah? Yeah?

1302
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: Hey Vio, Hey Vio? How do you like them apples?

1303
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: He say, how do you like apples? Manzanas?

1304
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Vio I got a number.

1305
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, there we go.

1306
00:59:55,600 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 2: All right, say uh say bye? Yeah, say Brian, you're

1307
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: a putto. She tried. This is my daughter one, This

1308
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 2: is Vio lefta look at that smile, say oh watch this.

1309
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 2: Here we go. Uh, Brian, you're ready for this one.

1310
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 2: Take take a look at her face? Ready? Yes, so yeah,

1311
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 2: that means smile and space and she wants to see

1312
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 2: ducks on the YouTube. So there you go. Okay, we're

1313
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna say bye bye. Okay, chi chow do

1314
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 2: you say? Chow? Hey?

1315
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: Vio, go grab go, grab a boiler for me. Vio.

1316
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 4: I got some things to ask her.

1317
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: She's in Colombia, all right, Luke, that will wrap up

1318
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: dead wrong this week?

1319
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 2: Uh sorry, I mean you know what it's And now

1320
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 2: my cat isn't here. He want to see my cat?

1321
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: Hang on, I do I what's this cat's name, Luke?

1322
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: Since we're just off the rails.

1323
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 2: Apparently we were just completely fucking done. It's Friday. This

1324
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 2: is Moco. Do you know? Do you know what he's

1325
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 2: called Moco? Because Moco means booger in Spanish and if

1326
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 2: you look at his nose, he has a black spot

1327
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 2: on my cat. My cat's name is booger. My wife

1328
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 2: was like, seriously, fucking mocho, that's what we're gonna call

1329
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 2: the fucking cat. Mocho.

1330
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: Yes.

1331
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 2: I was like yes, because the gringoes won't know, and

1332
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 2: everyone else who does will be like, seriously, Moco and Sanio.

1333
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: If you if you guys have more children and you

1334
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: have twin girls, by any chance, the next time, would

1335
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: you consider, Luke, I got two names for you ready,

1336
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: Valentina and Tonina as the Thomas twin.

1337
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: No, I think we'd probably pass on that. I think

1338
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: we'd probably pass on that, all right, anything else we're

1339
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 2: dead wrong about or not?

1340
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 4: No, that's it. That's it. That's ship's over all right.

1341
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 2: With that in mind, it's time before we do our

1342
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: last we have to do Tip to tip BC. We

1343
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 2: were calling it just a tip last week, but we're

1344
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 2: gonna go back to what the animation is, Tip to tip.

1345
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: That's where we just give you, you know, some advice,

1346
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 2: something to look out for, a lesson, a and you

1347
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 2: know suggestion. BC. What do you have tip to tell you?

1348
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 4: Go first? This week?

1349
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 2: Luke?

1350
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 4: Okay, you got to produce your credit.

1351
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: W don't you go first?

1352
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 2: All right? Fair enough? In today's version of Tip to Tip,

1353
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 2: this was not something I thought I would recommending, except

1354
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 2: I have now encountered a number of people that when

1355
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 2: I bring up this thing, they have never heard of it. Now,

1356
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 2: in some states you may not have heard of it

1357
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 2: because you don't need it, but depending on where you live,

1358
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 2: this will be extremely handy. Namely, there is an alcohol

1359
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: delivery service. It is called Drizzly d r I z

1360
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 2: l Y. I believe they have a website, but that's

1361
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 2: not what I use. On my Samsung Galaxy Note S

1362
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 2: twenty Ultra. I get the app. I have a Drizzly app.

1363
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 2: And what it does is it's like Uber eats. You

1364
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: punch it open and you're like, hey, i'd like to

1365
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 2: order I Actually I don't know if you can order

1366
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: malt liquor through there. But let's say you wanted a

1367
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, a keg of beer, but even something

1368
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 2: more general, you wanted some Jack Daniels. You fire up

1369
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 2: the search and it will tell you all the liquor

1370
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: stores that have it and what quantity you order it,

1371
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 2: and it will deliver it to you. If you want

1372
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 2: something local, it's even got like a little local piece

1373
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 2: on there where you can be like, I want local beer,

1374
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 2: I want local this, I want local that. It's very

1375
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 2: very handy. Usually get your stuff with them for me

1376
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: and I live in the nation's capital. I still get

1377
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: it in twenty to thirty minutes. A little bit of

1378
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 2: an up charge on it, but you're paying for the convenience,

1379
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 2: so okay, you know, use it sparingly. But I got

1380
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 2: to tell you if you're looking for alcohol delivery, and

1381
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 2: if you're a degenerate like me, that is a very

1382
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 2: important thing in this COVID era drizzly two thumbers.

1383
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: What's the delivery times like, Luke.

1384
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 2: Well, it depends where you order from. So let's say

1385
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 2: you punched in what you would punch in, right, Smeir

1386
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 2: and off iye something to really get those balls sagging.

1387
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 2: It would tell you what who had it, and what

1388
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 2: quantities and how far away they are, how long it

1389
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 2: would take so you can match it and it matches

1390
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: next to your address. Obviously they have to know where

1391
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: to drop it off. But I have found them to

1392
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 2: be very very reliable. If it says thirty minutes, it'll

1393
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 2: take thirty If they say an hour, trust them it'll

1394
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: take an hour. Very very good service.

1395
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:17,919
Speaker 4: It's a good tip, Luke, just the tip.

1396
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, just for a second. All right, here's my

1397
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: tip of the week. Look, I got I gotta come

1398
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: clean on something. I feel like I've been harboring a

1399
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: secret for a long time. My wife's been saying I'm

1400
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: going through a midlife crisis. It's time for me to

1401
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: come real and essentially come out of the closet. On this, Luke.

1402
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 4: I've been in music snob my whole life. Okay.

1403
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: You know, I had a one hundred di CD changer

1404
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: in my first apartment with massive speakers. I used to

1405
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: judge people by what music they listen to the same

1406
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: way you hold this badge on your chest of the

1407
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: hardcore abortion rock, you know, premeditation of mass shooting music.

1408
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 2: You know.

1409
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 4: I felt the same way with you know, classic rock.

1410
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: While I certainly love dad rock and indie rock, today

1411
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm a c a sick rock guy, right, I'm stones

1412
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm all that. So hey, guys, why't we just put

1413
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 1: the reveal down on the bottom before I even get

1414
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: to it. That's fine, it's not a big deal. So

1415
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: here's the deal, Luke. You know what, I'm going through

1416
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: a midlife crisis. Now I'm buying teneral is worthless.

1417
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 2: You're I'm giving them how to get alcohol set via

1418
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 2: the magic of your phone, and you're telling these fuckers

1419
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,479
Speaker 2: about Land of Confusion. What is wrong?

1420
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 5: Now?

1421
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm not No, I'm not here.

1422
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: We go. So I got this vinyl addiction now and

1423
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: it's one of the best things that ever happened to me.

1424
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: And it's like a drug. Yeah, it costs more than drugs.

1425
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: But I got forced speakers all around this office. All

1426
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: I do is listen to Vinyl and after acquiring some

1427
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: dead people's record collections, Luke, I never thought i'd be

1428
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: this guy. Maybe it's being forty two with gray hair

1429
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: and weird, but Genesis really bangs, Luke, And I know

1430
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: it's lame seventies prog rock. I can't stop. It's amazing.

1431
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: It's so good, Luke, Fox Shot bangs. I'm sorry, all right,

1432
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: three it's live. It bangs. It really does look even Duke.

1433
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: After Peter Gabriel left. It's really damn good. And you

1434
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: know what the spinoff Solo wants Peter Gabriel one and two.

1435
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: Good God, the first Phil College. It's awesome. I feel

1436
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: like I'm telling you, Luke, that I prefer it from

1437
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: the back end. And I don't care what you think

1438
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: about me. Seventies prog rock, even the Genesis transferring into pop.

1439
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm forty two and I love Phil Collins.

1440
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: What the hell are you gonna do with that information?

1441
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 4: I don't care, Luke.

1442
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 1: This is who I am right now, this is who

1443
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: I've become. Genesis bangs. It really does. I'm sorry, it

1444
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: really does.

1445
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 2: Here is how you know you have totally given up

1446
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 2: as a human being. This is what you. This is

1447
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 2: for folks who are younger than us, and there's probably

1448
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 2: many of you, not everyone, but many of you. Let

1449
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 2: me explain to you how cool works. Cool is a

1450
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 2: time in your life, typically eighteen to thirty four. It

1451
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 2: can extend either before or after, but that's the window

1452
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 2: is eighteen to thirty four, okay. And what happens during

1453
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 2: that window is you are in touch with what everyone

1454
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 2: else who is also in that window understands as the

1455
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: best practices. How to dress your hair, what to say,

1456
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 2: what to you know, what to wear, what to listen to,

1457
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 2: what to eat, how to look. That's what cool is.

1458
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 2: As you get further and further outside that bubble, you

1459
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 2: stop a understanding what cool is, but then pining for it.

1460
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 2: And then you get to the stage Brian is in,

1461
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 2: which is not only are you outside the stage of cool,

1462
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 2: you no longer pine for it. You have gone full in.

1463
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 2: There's no such thing as a guilty pleasure anymore, because

1464
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 2: I've got old balls and I'm past the point of

1465
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: caring what anyone else has to say about the things

1466
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 2: that matter in my life. It doesn't even matter your

1467
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 2: claims of him being uncool, talk about falling on deaf ears.

1468
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 2: It doesn't ring true to him.

1469
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: So my tip is this week is you know I

1470
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 1: was always you know, the stone Zeppelin guy. I didn't

1471
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: have time for you rock jazz, rock, art, rock, prog rock.

1472
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: Uh any, dude, I'm in now. I'm sorry, it's so good.

1473
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 4: You know what I did yesterday, Luke? You know what

1474
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 4: I did?

1475
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: I found a lady on Facebook who was selling you know,

1476
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 1: even deeper albums in the Genesis catalog. I met her

1477
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 1: like like it was a drug deal outside of her house.

1478
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 4: We did the pit. I came home.

1479
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: Do you know the first thing I did? You know,

1480
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 1: the first damn thing I did, Luke.

1481
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 4: I grabbed this this piece of business here.

1482
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: From Phil Collins. I jacked the four speakers up to

1483
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: really high volume, and I was boom boom boom boom

1484
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,759
Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom boo bom, Luke, I can feel

1485
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: it coming in in in, in in here tonight. Okay,

1486
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: it was awesome. I don't care who knows. I opened

1487
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: the windows and let the people have it. Okay, this

1488
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: is who I am God.

1489
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 2: This is not so much a tip as it is

1490
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 2: a cry for help. There's there's BC's Friday cry for help.

1491
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 2: Someone send the ambulance because my old boy in need.

1492
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. All right, well there you have.

1493
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: My heart's going boom boom boom. Come on, it's so good. Yeah,

1494
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: but I'm all right.

1495
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 2: See we have one more segment here. It's where we

1496
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 2: do our Friday review. I fucked this up on Monday

1497
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 2: by not telling people they had to do this. But

1498
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 2: if you're an MMA fan of all a recent time,

1499
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 2: chances are you've probably seen this movie. Hell, even if

1500
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 2: you aren't an MMA fan, chances are you've seen this movie.

1501
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 2: It's time for well, it's time for a discussion about

1502
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 2: Warrior BC. This movie came out by Lionsgate in twenty eleven,

1503
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 2: starring Joel Edgerton, Tom Hardy, Nick Nolty. I think first

1504
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,719
Speaker 2: we should give our scores and then talk about why

1505
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 2: we gave our scores.

1506
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: What do you say about apparently this is the new

1507
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: trend in the show. I usually have these great, you know,

1508
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: prepared statements, and we just like to give it away

1509
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 1: right in the beginning.

1510
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 2: Here.

1511
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,719
Speaker 1: Look, I just want to say this. I can't believe

1512
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen this movie and I had heard by

1513
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 1: the way, you know, both sides. So people saying, oh,

1514
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: this movie sucks, it blows, and people like my dad going, hey,

1515
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,759
Speaker 1: just seeing this movie, it's like Rocky for cage Fighting.

1516
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: I also worked with John Anak and Rashad Evans. I

1517
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: am a live back in the day, sitting right next

1518
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: to them when they were, you know, going off to

1519
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: film this, and I hadn't seen it. So I'm glad

1520
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: that the people picked it this week. Luke I came

1521
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: in because you had told me this full disclosure. You

1522
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: had said, oh you never saw that BC. Well, here's

1523
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 1: the deal. I hate it, but you're probably gonna love it.

1524
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: So Luke I came in thinking like, oh god, you know,

1525
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: I came in ready to hate it because I'm like, no,

1526
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 1: Luke thinks this is for my old ass, my genesis

1527
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 1: listening to ass FM. I'm gonna find out and tell

1528
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 1: him how bad it is. All right, that I'm more

1529
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 1: of a man than he thinks. I am, Luke. Three

1530
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:48,759
Speaker 1: quarters of the way through, let's say, right up until

1531
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 1: the point that the Sparta tournament started, like the first

1532
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: round of the Sparta Tournament. You remember where we are

1533
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,440
Speaker 1: in the movie at that point, right where the principal

1534
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 1: is on his couch going hey did it? Hey did it?

1535
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: At that point, Luke, I had a little tear forman

1536
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: in my eye.

1537
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 5: I'm like, this is awesome. This movie's like a ten

1538
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 5: out of ten. I don't care who knows. I love

1539
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 5: Peter Gabriel. That's really what I was thinking in that moment. Dude,

1540
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 5: it went down the cliff from that point on. I'm

1541
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 5: not here to say that you were necessarily wrong.

1542
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 4: I would love to hear your score. Please.

1543
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 2: All right, look, you flash my score on the screen here,

1544
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 2: and I'll explain why I came to the conclusion that

1545
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,879
Speaker 2: I did. Let's see it. Let's have the big reveal.

1546
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 2: Six six out of ten is what I'm gonna get. Okay,

1547
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 2: I can respect. Here's why, because no matter your view

1548
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 2: of the movie, did you like it? Did you not?

1549
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 2: Was it too long? Because it was fucking long? Was

1550
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 2: it not? Here's one thing you cannot take from this film.

1551
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 2: And I think, no matter what we say after this BC,

1552
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 2: I'm guessing you're going to agree. I feel like this

1553
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 2: is the very easy call. The individual performances from Joel Edgerton,

1554
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 2: one of the brothers, Tom Hardy and Nick Nolty. Magnificent.

1555
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 2: The wife kind of right, the wife that's not my type,

1556
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 2: but you know, she wasn't. She did have an accent,

1557
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 2: she wasn't throwing furniture at him. So that's not the

1558
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 2: kind of women I'm attracted to. But you get the idea. Listen,

1559
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 2: I think you can agree in all seriousness, those guys

1560
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: took those roles and whatever it was written on paper

1561
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 2: from the screenwriters, they took it to another level. In particular,

1562
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 2: I thought Nick Nolty was just he really leaned into

1563
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: that character and was every part of it. And you know,

1564
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 2: the character was designed to be a little bit pathetic,

1565
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 2: and he was in the way in which I think

1566
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 2: it was intended, but almost in a way where you

1567
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 2: couldn't help pitying, but also like being mad at him

1568
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 2: and also understanding why everyone reviled him, you know, a

1569
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 2: life's full of regrets and trying to make up for

1570
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 2: it at the last minute with his almost tangential connection

1571
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 2: to your own children. Tom Hardy is a beast. He's

1572
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 2: a total chameleon. He can play virtually every role. I

1573
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 2: love that about him, including over the top masculine, you know,

1574
01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 2: smash your face in types, right, exactly, simprified. Well, he

1575
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 2: deserted his unit, so fuck him for that. But in

1576
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 2: other news, you know, he.

1577
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 1: Saved those people, Luke, he saved those people, all right, he.

1578
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 2: Did save them. And then he turned into what we

1579
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 2: call a blue falcon, which if anyone knows marine corps lingo,

1580
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 2: you'll know what that means. And then lastly, Joel Edon, is.

1581
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 1: That like a prog rock marine a blue falcon?

1582
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 2: Uh No, but I bet blue falcons listen to prog rock.

1583
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 2: But here's the point. Joe Edgerton shows up and he

1584
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 2: plays the character that he's supposed to be, like the

1585
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 2: one who kind of figured it out and got it right,

1586
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 2: but he couldn't leave his angry and difficult past behind

1587
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 2: and his existing financial troubles. So I will say Edgerton, amazing, party,

1588
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 2: amazing really even the site to your point, Frank Grillo,

1589
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: the trainer to Joe Edgenden's character, I thought he was

1590
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 2: great in that role as well, John, and it was good.

1591
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 2: Here's the problem when.

1592
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 4: You Kurt Angles in this movie, Luke, he was awesome.

1593
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 2: Kurt Angle had, he had no dialogue, which is one

1594
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 2: of the reason why this movie sucked. I'm gonna give

1595
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: it a six strictly based off of how well those

1596
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 2: characters were portrayed by those actors, But everything else about

1597
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 2: this movie is flimsy and shitty. All right, I don't

1598
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 2: want to talk too long here BC, I'll just say

1599
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 2: this and we can explore it. Here's the problem. Totally predictable.

1600
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 2: I mean, what other fucking way was this gonna go? Right?

1601
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 2: Number one? Number two. They have these villains in the movie,

1602
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 2: like the Eric Apple character, Matt Dog whatever his last

1603
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 2: name was, and then Cooba. They are totally underdeveloped, right,

1604
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 2: is ridiculous. Then on top of it, they try to

1605
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 2: like make it be smarter than it is because the

1606
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 2: dad is listening to Moby Dick on tape and he's

1607
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 2: really given Captain ahab a talking to when he falls

1608
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 2: off the wagon and drinks the bottle, like really over

1609
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 2: the top, sappy bullshit. And then at the same time

1610
01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 2: they're playing Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, which was his last one

1611
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 2: ode to joy. Frank Grilla was saying, shit, like listen

1612
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 2: to the music, what the fuck does that even mean?

1613
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 2: Frank it doesn't mean anything. It's the worst fucking advice

1614
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 2: I ever heard of. Oh yeah, get a fucking haircut, Frank.

1615
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,839
Speaker 2: And also, if you know anything about Beethoven's Ninth Symphony,

1616
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 2: and I do, because it got me through some dark

1617
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 2: times in my life. That is the one unique symphony

1618
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 2: in Beethoven's of where, which is he wrote it after

1619
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 2: he'd become death and he had been in deep despair

1620
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 2: and this was him coming out of it. It's also

1621
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 2: the only one he ever wrote with voices for folks

1622
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 2: who may not know that. And Ojoy was.

1623
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 4: Actually a poem Peter Gabriel.

1624
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Ojojoy was actually a poem by another poet

1625
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 2: that he had brought over. So it's actually just the

1626
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 2: Ninth Symphony, but it's about nothing that has to do

1627
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 2: with fighting. In fact, it's the opposite of that shit.

1628
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 2: And that's his walkout music is Beethoven's Ode to Joy.

1629
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 2: And then there's a little side note PC. You got

1630
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 2: these marines all in uniform in one section. First of all,

1631
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 2: the marines are not gonna do that. They're gonna talk

1632
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 2: shit about you, because I know I was in the

1633
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 2: Marine Corps. They're gonna laugh at you. If you lose,

1634
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 2: and then you know, begrudgingly congratulates you if you win,

1635
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 2: because that's the Marine Corps. And then they don't even

1636
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 2: sing the words of the Marine Corps hymn correctly. They

1637
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 2: do the cardinal sin, which is we will fight our

1638
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 2: country's battle. There is no will in the Marine Corps hymn.

1639
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 2: It's we fight, motherfucker, not a future tense. We do

1640
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 2: it now, from the fucking shores of Tripoli to every

1641
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 2: other goddamn place. They even got the fucking words wrong

1642
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 2: of the Marine Corps hymn. This is like getting Exodus wrong.

1643
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 2: This is like getting revelations wrong. How fucking dare you

1644
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: mess that up? You're like, oh, it's one word. It's

1645
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 2: one word, luke, it's one word in the Marine Corps hymn.

1646
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 2: That from the first day of boot camp they tell you,

1647
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 2: don't put the fucking word will in between we and fight,

1648
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 2: just say we fight. They beat your ass over the

1649
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 2: head with it, quite literally, They fucking take chairs and

1650
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: smack you over the head like it's backyard pro wrest

1651
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 2: and don't say we will fight. And I said we

1652
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 2: will fight in the fucking movie and for that reason

1653
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 2: fail there Wow.

1654
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: Well, well done. Right, there are six from Luke. All right,

1655
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: here's my score. Let's put it up there, we'll reveal it.

1656
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 1: It's it's actually favorable in the end because of how

1657
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: it's seven point one. And I know the way you

1658
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: might be thinking about that too. That all right, Well,

1659
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 1: here's why I'm not kidding. At the three quarter mark,

1660
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to hate it, but I was like, God,

1661
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 1: this is like almost like for a male action movie

1662
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 1: that purposely was grabbing like the spirit of Rocky, a

1663
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: little bit from Hoosiers, a little bit from like every

1664
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 1: one of these sort of underdog, hard scrabble comeback sports

1665
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 1: movies that we like, and they did it in a

1666
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,719
Speaker 1: way that really, I'm sorry, like it was presented so cool.

1667
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 1: It was presented without cliche, without being too cliche, I thought.

1668
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: And really the key part was that everything they had

1669
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 1: shown about MMA until the start of that tournament was

1670
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: was fair right on. I mean, like, it wasn't insulting

1671
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 1: to it. So I was ready to give a little

1672
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,719
Speaker 1: bit of leniency like we do in the Rocky movies.

1673
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 1: Like if you're a boxing hardcore and you watched the

1674
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 1: Rocky I mean like there's no cham like Rocky Balbo

1675
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 1: and the Drago fight takes like four thousand unanswered punches

1676
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: and comes back and wins, Like obviously, that's movie level boxing.

1677
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: So I was prepared to give leniency for certain things here.

1678
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 1: I was overwhelmed at the three quarter mark that they

1679
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 1: got me. There were chills, bump scenes, They actually made

1680
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: you care about Nolty's relationship with the kids in lack

1681
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: of and all that, and I think they did an

1682
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 1: amazing job at certain points luke of teasing without telling

1683
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: you what really happened, so you weren't really sure if

1684
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 1: Tom Hardy was a war hero or if there was

1685
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 1: something sketchy that led him to act the way he did.

1686
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 1: I also thought, for the most part, they sort of

1687
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 1: nailed the roles in a broken family of people that

1688
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: are just sort of unwilling to forgive each other no

1689
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 1: matter what I mean. There were so many elements of

1690
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 1: this entering that tournament that I'm like, Okay, it's obvious

1691
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 1: that we're setting up for brother versus brother. It's obvious

1692
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 1: that older bro math teacher or whatever is going to

1693
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 1: have to pull a few upsets.

1694
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 4: But I'm here, I'm ready.

1695
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if if in that moment, I gave

1696
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 1: them too much credit, and then when it went south,

1697
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 1: I was extra angry. But I was extra angry. And

1698
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 1: here's my main issues, Luke. And you know I just

1699
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: told you I suspend disbelief for the Rocky movies. But

1700
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: here's my main issues. The reveal that they're actually brothers,

1701
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: which comes off the reveal by the way, that Tom Hardy,

1702
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 1: who we thought for a half hour was a war hero,

1703
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: may not actually be. That's the freaking, like, Luke, I

1704
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 1: Am your father moment of this film. I need to

1705
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 1: stretch that shit out. I need to hear the announcers

1706
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 1: and the organizers of Sparta going, do we really want

1707
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: to put on this final? If it's brother versus brother?

1708
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,879
Speaker 1: You know that beach scene earlier of the two brothers

1709
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 1: trying to talk and have it out. I need that

1710
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 1: right before the main event, when they make it to

1711
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 1: the final. I need this to be a dilemma. I

1712
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: need Nick Nolty in the middle of that saying you

1713
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 1: don't have to fight each other, we could just love

1714
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,600
Speaker 1: each other, and then them going no, it has to

1715
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: be this way. I need something like that, rather than

1716
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 1: a fast forward right into the final, as if nothing's happened,

1717
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: and Brian Callan, who by the way, actually did a

1718
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: pretty damn good almost like poor Man's Joe Rogan meets

1719
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 1: the good parts about Mike Goldberg type of role he

1720
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 1: was many of those. He just haphazardly was like, oh,

1721
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 1: we've come to find out that they're actually brothers and

1722
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 1: his name Isn't reared In and it's like, dude, that's

1723
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: a monster reveal in this moment. So that pissed me

1724
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 1: the hell off. But what put it over the top,

1725
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 1: Luke was the final two rounds. So Tommy Riridan's character like,

1726
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 1: this is a state regulated event, right, Like this is

1727
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,640
Speaker 1: like the acknowledge that the UFC exists. This movie came

1728
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: out in twenty eleven, but we're led to believe that

1729
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 1: this tournament is essentially like the best of the best

1730
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 1: middleweights in the world who aren't in UFC. That's sort

1731
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: of what I'm believing. And at that time, you got Strikeforced,

1732
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 1: there's still things going on Japan. I could believe you

1733
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 1: could get a good ass tournament there. So what I'm

1734
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 1: saying is Tommy Ardan goes out for the championship out

1735
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 1: without a trainer, without a cup man and then he

1736
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 1: badly dislocates his shoulder in like round three. Look, they

1737
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: let him go out there for two more rounds with

1738
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 1: his arm dragging. No commission member comes in there between

1739
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 1: rounds and is like, hey, man, I don't know if

1740
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 1: you should continue. Can you give me like and maybe

1741
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: you're saying, dude, it's a blood and guts movie, but

1742
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 1: they sort of presented this tournament as legit. That completely

1743
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 1: turned me off on that level, and then I started

1744
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 1: critiquing and picking really even more when they pissed me

1745
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 1: off there, Luke, I believe that I could have I

1746
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: could have given this movie like almost like a nine

1747
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: point seven and really been on it if it had

1748
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: come out tell me if I'm wrong here, if it

1749
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 1: had come out in two thousand and five, if it

1750
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 1: had come out in two thousand, if it had come.

1751
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 4: Out in nineteen ninety seven.

1752
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 1: I do believe it's hard to hard to fathom that

1753
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 1: the two brothers with such little experience, and I know

1754
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 1: the physics teacher brother they said had fought in the

1755
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: UFC before, but we learned from the wife that it

1756
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:02,839
Speaker 1: went disastrously ended up in the hospital.

1757
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 4: So he's like a washed out.

1758
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 1: Pro fighter, you're gonna tell me, I'm like, two weeks

1759
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 1: notice after a couple of fights in a bar, that

1760
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to upset Anthony Johnson, who did

1761
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: a decent job in that role, Nate Marquart and then

1762
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: go in there against Kurt Angle, who's being presented as

1763
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 1: middleweight fader, and look, they did a decent job presenting

1764
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 1: that fight, but like that was a bridge too far.

1765
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:29,719
Speaker 1: And while I like Tommy Riridon's badass, no theme music,

1766
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: no post fight interview element there, I mean, he just

1767
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 1: destroyed people. He's not a pro fighter, Luke, He's a

1768
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 1: marine badass. Sure he had a good amateur wrestling career.

1769
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 1: I know brock Lesner walked through with just an amateur

1770
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 1: wrestling career and became a UFC champion. But two upset

1771
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 1: stories of that nature and their brothers uh and finally.

1772
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 2: They tried to do they tried to do it the

1773
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 2: simultaneously too little and too much at the same time.

1774
01:22:58,640 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 2: Like here was the other part of thought. It's like

1775
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 2: Tommy's character was interesting again, I thought, I thought that

1776
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 2: tom Hardy did an amazing job, but it's like, how

1777
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 2: fucking old are you? You moved to the West Coast

1778
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 2: and then the northwest of America, and you don't even

1779
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 2: tell your brother, who, by the way, did nothing wrong

1780
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 2: that the mother has cancer. What are you in tenth

1781
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 2: grade and you're sixteen and you're mad at the fucking world,

1782
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 2: and that's why you didn't tell your brother, Like this

1783
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 2: is supposed to be, Like I get being mad at

1784
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 2: the dad because he was a drunk and he beat

1785
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 2: the fuck out of you. Like there was one line

1786
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 2: where he said, you know, it's almost be kind of

1787
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 2: hard to find a woman who could take a punch

1788
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 2: these days, right, I remember that. I was actually a

1789
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 2: good line. I was like, Wow, he must have had

1790
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 2: a fucked up background. But then you're after the brother too,

1791
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 2: and you didn't even tell him because why he was

1792
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 2: disloyal because he married a girl and didn't want to

1793
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 2: shit life. I mean, you know, you got the emotional

1794
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 2: maturity of a fourteen year old. I couldn't sign on

1795
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 2: to that at all.

1796
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 1: So no, straight up, And what I'm really saying about

1797
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 1: that last grant was if that had happened in two

1798
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 1: thousand in the Mma scene where we were, you could

1799
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,120
Speaker 1: almost believe that somebody could kind of walk up on

1800
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 1: the street this forehead and yet evolved and oh he

1801
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 1: knows some jiu jitsu.

1802
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 4: He used to be a profile of years.

1803
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine, and even badass Tommy Reardon. I mean,

1804
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 1: look in early UFC days, if you were just a

1805
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:12,719
Speaker 1: badass brawler, you might win some. But Luke, you're telling

1806
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 1: me they show up for the press conference and neither

1807
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: of them were watching any TV and media. They're not

1808
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 1: looking over who I might have to fight, and they

1809
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 1: just go, oh, my brothers in this, like come on, yeah.

1810
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 2: That's another one that was like, Wow, they've not really

1811
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 2: thought this through. I thought the action for MMA was

1812
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 2: like good, not it's great, certainly the best. It was

1813
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 2: better than David Mammot's like stupid ass red belt. Okay,

1814
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 2: you know, we can give it.

1815
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:39,919
Speaker 1: You know, there there were a lot of ex fighters

1816
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 1: that played those roles that.

1817
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 2: You had had a rumbling there. You had Nate, Mark Kuharr,

1818
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 2: you had some other ones. But like the funny part,

1819
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 2: Juko was in their hole on Carnero. But like the

1820
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 2: other part about it was like, you know, everyone gets

1821
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 2: redemption in the end, right teacher gets redeemed because he

1822
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 2: starts to cheer, kids become fans of their own teacher.

1823
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 2: The teacher gets redemption Tommy's so renders to the demons

1824
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 2: that have held him back, both metaphorically and literally BC

1825
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 2: when he taps out. In the main event, the dad

1826
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 2: proves that he wants to be a part of their life.

1827
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 2: Everybody gets to say wow at the end, didn't I

1828
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 2: do good? It's like, motherfucker, that is not how these

1829
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 2: broken lives go. Someone would have had to double cross

1830
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 2: the other one and it would still be a shithead

1831
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 2: and you had to given up on him and blah

1832
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 2: blah blah, Like no one comes out of this all.

1833
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 2: This movie just laundered everybody. It just made everybody else.

1834
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,759
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think it's stained mma, which is important,

1835
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 1: even though it was, you know, and I do think

1836
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: that they were very ambitious. They were trying to make

1837
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: a rocky movie, and I'll give them credit that they

1838
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,679
Speaker 1: actually came pretty damn close. And once again, as you said,

1839
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 1: those performances from the two brothers to the dad, like,

1840
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 1: there were some top shelf performances put in. So you

1841
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 1: know what, it was an entertaining watch seven point one.

1842
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 4: There you go, Thank you people, thank you.

1843
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 2: Listen. It was it went on too long. And it's

1844
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 2: fine if you want to say, it's okay, but these

1845
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 2: people being like it's the new Rocky. No, Creed is

1846
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 2: the new Rocky. Sorry, hate to tell you that. It's

1847
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 2: not the air And now was the other part too,

1848
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, Fitzies, it ain't Fitzies anymore. I'm like, bitch,

1849
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:14,639
Speaker 2: they are not putting mma gyms where boxing gyms used

1850
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 2: to be. Like I get the symbolism, like it's the

1851
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 2: new fight sport that everyone cares about. It's like, dude,

1852
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 2: that's you got the M and A gyms are in

1853
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 2: the suburbs. You know, they're not downtown fucking steel Mill Pittsburgh.

1854
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 2: But okay, there you go. Fucking sucked. We fight our

1855
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 2: country's battles. We will all right, very good, Uh b

1856
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 2: C had a long week. We should remind folks, oh,

1857
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 2: we have one more segment to look at, not to

1858
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 2: do but that justin Gatgee interview. I believe we have

1859
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 2: one more of these Are we gonna play that now?

1860
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 2: And if so, I think it's where he reminds everyone

1861
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 2: of his mental state that he is not going to

1862
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 2: go to If you guys want to.

1863
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, we should.

1864
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: We should let this clip.

1865
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 2: Take us out right, Luke, Uh, well, do we gotta

1866
01:26:58,400 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 2: we have to sign off and everything for us. We

1867
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 2: want to when we sign gaff. Do we want to

1868
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,640
Speaker 2: do it when we sign out? Okay, very good with that.

1869
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 2: With that in mind, okay, let's do all the lowers.

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1882
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Speaker 2: own time. B See, we have a very busy weekend.

1891
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 2: Plenty of coverage headed everyone's way. Catch us on CBS

1892
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 2: Sports HQ for before the fights, after the fights. Tons

1893
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 2: of analysis coming your way.

1894
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can expend. You can expect a morning

1895
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 1: combat instant analysis from myself on the Lomachenko fight as

1896
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 1: well Saturday night, so be on the lookout at that

1897
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 1: early Sunday as well.

1898
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 2: All right, and without further ado, this justin Gatsche interview

1899
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 2: should be up very soon to take us out mail

1900
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,719
Speaker 2: your games, be loyal, and here's another clip. Enjoy your weekend, folks.

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Speaker 4: Great chatting with you, sir.

1902
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 3: All right, I promise you, guys, I ain't going out

1903
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 3: like no bitch.

1904
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 2: We believe you, justin, We believe you

1905
01:28:46,439 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 3: All right, lady boys,