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Speaker 1: Logavan planning to get to here's what's on the program today.
Speaker 1: The offseason program schedule announced. How many teams will show
Speaker 1: for it? Well, we know a few that are not
Speaker 1: planning to will get to that. Trevor Lawrence featured in
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated yesterday and some comments from maybe the future
Speaker 1: Jaguars quarterback. Joe Cullen, the Jaguars defensive coordinator, describes the
Speaker 1: defensive scheme to John Osher in an article on Jaguars
Speaker 1: dot com. We'll discuss and we'll go around the National
Speaker 1: Football League. Good afternoon, Lot, Good afternoon. Did you just
Speaker 1: say that Trevor Lawrence could be the Jaguars? I mean
Speaker 1: he's not yet. I mean in theory. What is the
Speaker 1: draft now? Three two weeks, two weeks away April nine.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget the In the weeks leading up to
Speaker 1: the draft. And this is going back a long time ago. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: uh huh, it's a little while ago. I will tell
Speaker 1: you how old I was that year. Okay, were you
Speaker 1: single digits? Yes, I was, But I remember very distinctly,
Speaker 1: and I was sitting there going, just don't get hurt.
Speaker 1: You know, you drive your car, you know you're you're
Speaker 1: being real careful in the right lane. Remember that commercial
Speaker 1: that was in the Super Bowl a few years ago,
Speaker 1: and and the old couples driving in and he and he.
Speaker 1: She turns to her husband says, you're driving like a
Speaker 1: bad out of Haiti, and he's just kind of creeping alone.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of what I was doing prior
Speaker 1: to the draft to me, because the only thing in
Speaker 1: your mind is just get me to the draft. Get
Speaker 1: me to the draft, and let me get selected. And
Speaker 1: then after that, you know, maybe we'll throw a little
Speaker 1: bit less caution to the wind. But uh, but that's
Speaker 1: kind of where it was at and and but it's
Speaker 1: an amazing time for all these prospects. I mean, the
Speaker 1: families are excited, and I know, with COVID and everything else,
Speaker 1: that certainly was a challenging year. But I mean this
Speaker 1: is a. This is a big moment for for some
Speaker 1: of these young men. This is a big moment for
Speaker 1: their families, and we certainly understand that it's a big
Speaker 1: moment for some franchises. This one included right at the top.
Speaker 1: It was interesting you talk about almost basically bubble wrapping
Speaker 1: yourself travel. There's Jabril Cox is a linebacker for l
Speaker 1: s U. He's working out like his own little pro
Speaker 1: day three days before the draft. Yeah. I wouldn't do that,
Speaker 1: which is I mean, you know, maybe he just wants
Speaker 1: to prove something or whatever. Why I mean, for me, uh,
Speaker 1: why would you have, first of all, three days prior
Speaker 1: to the draft. Most of the head is in the bar,
Speaker 1: so to speak. What I mean by that is, most
Speaker 1: of the teams have already done their draft order stacking.
Speaker 1: And I don't think a workout that's three days prior
Speaker 1: unless something bad happens. I think you can only hurt
Speaker 1: yourself with a workout three days prior to the draft.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I just don't understand the value for
Speaker 1: the player in working out at that point. Let's get
Speaker 1: to some of the biggest news this week around the NFL.
Speaker 1: The off season program finally has been announced by the NFL,
Speaker 1: but the NFL p A is sending out a few
Speaker 1: announcements that some teams will not be attending the voluntary practice.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the schedule as announced by the league,
Speaker 1: though it was announced yesterday. Phase one starts Monday and
Speaker 1: it goes through May fourteenth. Virtual meetings only, still the
Speaker 1: same limits as are now in the facility in the
Speaker 1: weight room, and the clubs will all effort vaccine availability
Speaker 1: for players, staff and their families. Phase two is only
Speaker 1: a few days long, May seventeenth. One virtual meetings on
Speaker 1: field drills with coaches but no contact, and it has
Speaker 1: to be at a quote unquote teaching pace. And then
Speaker 1: Phase three, we know it as ot as May four
Speaker 1: through June eighth, includes a three day mandatory mini camp
Speaker 1: and ten o t A practices they can have in
Speaker 1: person or virtual meetings. And then here we go. Then
Speaker 1: the break comes, and then training camp at the end
Speaker 1: of July. I suppose that this is pan. This is
Speaker 1: kind of what I was talking about when I was
Speaker 1: envisioning condensing everything together so that you could have a
Speaker 1: little bit better handle on your player management. And uh,
Speaker 1: it's a little longer in that third phase than I
Speaker 1: was anticipating it's about normal third phase. I was I
Speaker 1: was expecting maybe two weeks, and their their time period
Speaker 1: is certainly much longer than that, and I think three
Speaker 1: maybe three and a half weeks. Yeah, that second phase
Speaker 1: is usually much longer. Couple at least two three weeks. Right,
Speaker 1: So you basically you're having a month of virtual and
Speaker 1: then you have four days where you can go on
Speaker 1: the field and you do basically walk through practices essentially
Speaker 1: is what that is. And then after that point then
Speaker 1: you're gonna have your regular stuff. I don't like what
Speaker 1: the Union did. And and here's why. Yeah, they've put
Speaker 1: out what they've put out statements on behalf of certain
Speaker 1: teams players that they are not going to attend. The
Speaker 1: team's actually put out that information that the players on
Speaker 1: individual teams put out information. So Detroit, Tampa, bay Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know if there have been any other teams,
Speaker 1: but I know Detroit and Tampa based sticks out of
Speaker 1: my mind that they said that they will not be
Speaker 1: attending any of the voluntary work that's gonna be in
Speaker 1: the off season. And and for me, I just I
Speaker 1: don't understand why why you would put as a union,
Speaker 1: why would you encourage your membership to do something that
Speaker 1: you know for a fact that not everybody's gonna comply.
Speaker 1: Because the one thing that you have to be able
Speaker 1: to do is a union is to be to be
Speaker 1: as one to show solidarity. And I think what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen and will happen without question. Because there's different teams
Speaker 1: that have different bonus structures for off season workouts, this
Speaker 1: team being one of them. There's other teams in the
Speaker 1: league that are, for example, Green Bay and Buffalo have
Speaker 1: high off season incentives. And the reason why they have
Speaker 1: a hard time attracting the players to live in Green
Speaker 1: Bay and to live in Buffalo, that's a fact that's
Speaker 1: been that way for years, and so there are significant
Speaker 1: incentives to get the players to live in that market
Speaker 1: in the off season. The players are not going to
Speaker 1: bypass six six figures. And I don't care if somebody's
Speaker 1: making millions. The reality is, if you're making six figures,
Speaker 1: is an off season workout bonus, you're not gonna be
Speaker 1: We're gonna say no, I'm not gonna do that. Just
Speaker 1: because the union put out a statement that says, you know,
Speaker 1: we want all of our players to not report for
Speaker 1: anything voluntary. And if I'm the player and I've got
Speaker 1: a bonus, I'm saying, the hell is the union? I mean,
Speaker 1: what are you? What are you talking about? And he
Speaker 1: here's the other reality. If you're vaccinated and you're in
Speaker 1: an environment that's controlled, which the league is gonna do,
Speaker 1: it's best way better, Okay, then Joe's Jim around the
Speaker 1: corner that a player could work out on his own.
Speaker 1: It makes zero sense for the union to put out
Speaker 1: that information. And I have a problem with that. And
Speaker 1: I've been a union guy. I was a vice president
Speaker 1: of the union. I was a player rep for eight years,
Speaker 1: a vice president for two years, and I have I
Speaker 1: have no understanding as to why the union would do this.
Speaker 1: I think J. C. Treader stepped on his tongue and
Speaker 1: this one. So there's there are six teams now. The
Speaker 1: Bears are the latest today to put out a statement
Speaker 1: of some sort. Now, the interesting part of some of
Speaker 1: these the first couple of statements were like nobody's going
Speaker 1: and then I think they realized, oh wait a minute,
Speaker 1: some guys really have to go to get these bonus checks. Well,
Speaker 1: you know we're looking at it here. You mentioned there's
Speaker 1: some teams with different offseason structures, right for the bonuses
Speaker 1: and all that, the workout bonuses and the Jaguars, Uh,
Speaker 1: this is off pro football talk, but it's from over
Speaker 1: the Cap dot com as well. Well. The Bills have
Speaker 1: twenty eight players with workout bonuses just over three million
Speaker 1: dollars total, Packers have nineteen. Those are the two you mentioned.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars are next right there with twenty four players
Speaker 1: at three point seven million dollars, which has always been
Speaker 1: the way that the Jaguars have wanted to be and
Speaker 1: it started going back in the days of Tom Coffin.
Speaker 1: Tom Coffin wanted his players here in this market, and
Speaker 1: then it continued on throughout and then obviously a lot
Speaker 1: of the incentives that we're seeing aren't recently negotiated by
Speaker 1: our and Meyer. These are what was already in place
Speaker 1: from the Tom Coughlin Dave called well Doug moro own regime.
Speaker 1: But I just I just don't understand why why do
Speaker 1: you have to put a statement out when it's already
Speaker 1: voluntary anyway? Well, just don't come that. And and then
Speaker 1: the biggest point JP is why would you put a
Speaker 1: statement out that your membership will not back up because
Speaker 1: and and because when I when I say that that
Speaker 1: it makes sense to be in in the place where
Speaker 1: you can train and to be safe, do what would
Speaker 1: I rather come to t I a bank field and
Speaker 1: work with trainers, strength coaches, and coaches that have all
Speaker 1: been vaccinated, that have a regular cleaning policy, that have
Speaker 1: a unbelievable staff on hand to make sure that this
Speaker 1: place is cleaned from top to bottom every day. Rehab
Speaker 1: an injury at place that I know is clean top
Speaker 1: to bottom, that has people that have been vaccinated because
Speaker 1: they're in Tier one or Tier two, Versus trying to
Speaker 1: do all that on your own somehow somewhere with all
Speaker 1: those safety protocols that that can't be in place, that
Speaker 1: won't be in place. I just I just don't understand
Speaker 1: the mindset. And I understand it's voluntary. All you had
Speaker 1: to do was put out a statement. Is that is
Speaker 1: saying we have believed in the voluntary portion of the
Speaker 1: all season and we continue to believe in that. We
Speaker 1: want players to make the best decision and their interests
Speaker 1: as individuals, We as a union support our membership whatever
Speaker 1: decision that they make. You don't come out and make
Speaker 1: a blanket statement that says that they shouldn't go. It's
Speaker 1: ridiculous because you know what as a as a as
Speaker 1: a union member, there's guys that want to go. There's
Speaker 1: guys that want to come in and work out with
Speaker 1: their with their teammates, that want to work with their
Speaker 1: new coach, that want to learn that to get a
Speaker 1: new system, time on the field, to get better you know, technique,
Speaker 1: all that stuff. And I don't know if can I
Speaker 1: say the A S I N I N E word.
Speaker 1: It's an assinine statement by the union. Wouldn't you say
Speaker 1: that I just wanted to make sure I don't want
Speaker 1: to get the f CC coming in fire and many
Speaker 1: safe just because of or you know, forgiveness instead of
Speaker 1: permission to you can just go that anyway. That that
Speaker 1: just you know, I felt I textied earlier today and
Speaker 1: I felt pretty strongly about felt like it makes it
Speaker 1: makes no sense, It makes no sense. And here and
Speaker 1: here's the bad part. It's gonna make the union look bad. Really,
Speaker 1: it's gonna make the union look bad because where the
Speaker 1: where the unions has had Detroit, Buffalo or whoever they
Speaker 1: put out these things that said, okay, we have agreed
Speaker 1: that we're not gonna go, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: guys start to go because they start realizing that that's
Speaker 1: probably their safest alternative to preparing for a season, is
Speaker 1: to be able to do it in their market where
Speaker 1: they're gonna be playing football and working for their employer.
Speaker 1: How's that gonna make the union look It's gonna make
Speaker 1: them look like a bunch of buffoons that don't know
Speaker 1: what they're doing. Now. Last year, the union was marvelous, tremendous,
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Speaker 1: It will be interesting to see how balk He approaches
Speaker 1: all of it, the drafts, the look ahead, because it's
Speaker 1: an uneven playing field. So how can I judge who's
Speaker 1: normally going to pop their final season? And how when
Speaker 1: you don't have those things? And so how much do
Speaker 1: you know about any twenty two class that comes into
Speaker 1: play when you're making some decisions. One, it's a different landscape, man,
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Speaker 1: news after the show started lines another team has joined
Speaker 1: with an announcement saying they are not going to attend
Speaker 1: voluntary offseason workouts this season was at the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: have said we stand in solidarity solidarity with players some
Speaker 1: other clause by exercising our cb A right to not
Speaker 1: attend in person voluntary workouts this offseason. We are professionals
Speaker 1: who train year round wherever we spend our off season.
Speaker 1: As we proved last year, we will be ready to
Speaker 1: compete this upcoming season. It's a longer, uh statement, but
Speaker 1: that's the latest to the seventh team now. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'm just curious, do they ever allude to the to
Speaker 1: the issue of worrying about the pandemic? Yeah? Earlier it says, Yeah,
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen continues to affect our players, families, communities and
Speaker 1: must continue to take it seriously ongoing threats. There's no
Speaker 1: question that COVID continues to affect some communities, But what
Speaker 1: the NFL is doing in this month of virtual activity
Speaker 1: is encouraging vaccinations to create the community in each NFL environment,
Speaker 1: each team and ronment. It's not a complete bubble, but
Speaker 1: it's it's creating an environment that's going to be safer
Speaker 1: than any other environment that the player is going to
Speaker 1: be able to utilize to prepare for a season. And
Speaker 1: I think that's what's disappointing is that the Union, in reality,
Speaker 1: if you look at it, they're choosing to encourage their
Speaker 1: membership to choose an environment that is not safer then
Speaker 1: the environment that the NFL we will be able to
Speaker 1: provide by having the vaccinations in place, by having only
Speaker 1: vaccinated people within Tier one and Tier two around the
Speaker 1: players and touching the players, et cetera. So I just
Speaker 1: don't understand exactly why the Union, after being so good
Speaker 1: last year this year has become, in my opinion, very bad.
Speaker 1: Let's get to Trevor Lawrence, the possible future Jaguars quarterback. Well,
Speaker 1: he was featured this week in Sports Illustrated article by
Speaker 1: Michael Rosenberg, and he was on the cover also this
Speaker 1: week and the Masters by chance, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think it was after that. But if you're watching
Speaker 1: on video on Jack's social to see the cover of
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated there and the the sub head of this
Speaker 1: article is the best quarterback to come into the draft
Speaker 1: in nearly a decade. Lawrence will enter the NFL with
Speaker 1: the building of a general generational signal caller, a keen
Speaker 1: sense of self, and a burning desire to prove absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1: And he's quoted a little later in this article, and
Speaker 1: this is the quote. I think that's uh kind of
Speaker 1: churned up some reactions, um, at least from the national
Speaker 1: media types, a few of them. Quote. I want people
Speaker 1: to know that I'm passionate about what I do and
Speaker 1: it's really important to me. But I don't have this
Speaker 1: huge chip on my shoulder that everyone's out to get
Speaker 1: me and I'm trying to prove everybody wrong. I just
Speaker 1: don't have that. I can't manufacture that. I don't want
Speaker 1: to end. Quote. That's Trevor Lawrence in this article. Check
Speaker 1: it out Sports Illustrated. It's really in depth. His now
Speaker 1: wife is in there with him also with a few
Speaker 1: things about how his process is going getting off the
Speaker 1: injury and the wedding and everything. So it's a really
Speaker 1: recent conversation. So let me let me guess he probably
Speaker 1: received some criticism for that quote he did. Yes, I
Speaker 1: saw Lewis Riddick on ESPN was not a fan of
Speaker 1: how that came across. And I think that's part of
Speaker 1: the thing too, he said earlier, just like I don't
Speaker 1: really the reaction to it is not gonna bother him either. Well.
Speaker 1: And the reason why people I think and here I
Speaker 1: don't think there's anything wrong with what he says at all.
Speaker 1: And the reason why people some people are probably getting
Speaker 1: upset is because they want Trevor Lawrence to have this
Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder that is like he was wrong
Speaker 1: back in the old days. They said he couldn't do
Speaker 1: They've always said he could do it, like, and he's
Speaker 1: done it, Like why would he be what what chip? Look,
Speaker 1: there's no chip. I'm here to tell you JP. The
Speaker 1: greatest players that I or played with, I'm talking Hall
Speaker 1: of famers, never had a huge chip on their shoulder.
Speaker 1: The only chip, or if you wanted to call a
Speaker 1: chip on their shoulder, was they wanted to be great.
Speaker 1: Their search for greatness. And I'm talking Ronnie Lott, Art Monk,
Speaker 1: Tony Vasselli, I'm talking Hall of famers, some of the
Speaker 1: greatest players to ever play in the game. They didn't
Speaker 1: play the game because they had something to prove to somebody.
Speaker 1: They had something to prove to themselves that they wanted
Speaker 1: to be great, that they wanted their teams to be great.
Speaker 1: And so for Lewis Riddick or whoever else out there
Speaker 1: that wants to criticize Trevor Lawrence because he doesn't have
Speaker 1: a quote chip on his shoulder, uh boy, that's a stretch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he's just good. I mean you know, look, look,
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't want to prove anybody wrong. All he
Speaker 1: wants to be is great. Maybe he wants to be
Speaker 1: the the epitome of greatness. Would that not be good
Speaker 1: enough for motivation? Do we have to have somebody you
Speaker 1: that that is in your face? I told you I
Speaker 1: could do that. All you doubters and naysayers, that's for you.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, oh you haters out there, listen up.
Speaker 1: I got something for you. It's like, uh, I'll draw
Speaker 1: the comparison in today's day and as you find some
Speaker 1: players that get motivated by what they may read on
Speaker 1: social media. I mean, really, you take every little thing
Speaker 1: as a slight. Really, come on, you're you're you're gonna
Speaker 1: You're gonna put some cred to somebody that's got the
Speaker 1: anonymous keyboard courage for real? I mean, come on, I mean,
Speaker 1: are are we really that desperate for motivation? And what's
Speaker 1: from the matter was something that just wants to be great?
Speaker 1: What does Barkley say all the time? It's all these
Speaker 1: guys sitting in the grandma's basement with the drawers on,
Speaker 1: eating Cheetos, tweeting all the time. It's probably it's probably right.
Speaker 1: He's probably right. And Cheetos and and and Oreos for dessert.
Speaker 1: So anyway, check out the article chet who doesn't Cheetos
Speaker 1: are really good? Give me a P B and J,
Speaker 1: a side of Cheetos, and a glass of milk. This
Speaker 1: is an interesting we heard from my Bucky Brooks as
Speaker 1: we started this segment. By the way, I did like
Speaker 1: his wild Wild West comment it's going to be different well,
Speaker 1: and and he alluded to something that that me and
Speaker 1: him are are agreement on and that and I mentioned
Speaker 1: to you, and I was last week or the weeks
Speaker 1: before about possibly using some of your equity that you
Speaker 1: have now to convert that into more equity in the
Speaker 1: future by trading away some current draft picks to gain
Speaker 1: future draft picks to where you can move some of
Speaker 1: that equity into a year in which you have more certainty.
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is that next year
Speaker 1: you'll have teams in college it will be and you
Speaker 1: won't have players opting out. You won't be making a
Speaker 1: lot of decisions and personnel based on faith. You'll be
Speaker 1: making it more on concrete evidence. And so I like,
Speaker 1: I like Bookie Buckey's statement there, and uh, and hopefully
Speaker 1: the Jaguars do a little bit of that, But I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that they have to do that. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that I would be personally encouraged because as much
Speaker 1: as you hear Trent Balky use the term value, I'm
Speaker 1: a big believer and that there's value in having numbers
Speaker 1: of picks quantity because of the of the percentages that
Speaker 1: exist in acquiring a player that's gonna be successful. The
Speaker 1: more picks you have, better you're gonna be right. The
Speaker 1: more tickets you have in the raffle, you have a
Speaker 1: better chance to get. It's like the ping pong balls
Speaker 1: you know from the NBA draft, right, and don't they
Speaker 1: do it that way? More balls you got in the
Speaker 1: hopper the or chance you're gonna have of winning, So
Speaker 1: get more balls in a hopper. This is a you know,
Speaker 1: it's one of those. And I'm sure we'll hear a
Speaker 1: lot more about this after the draft. But the scouting
Speaker 1: process this year of college players, you know, and and
Speaker 1: the importance of first off, a big rollodex for each scout,
Speaker 1: you know, to find out information on guys because they
Speaker 1: couldn't go on campus this year and do campus visits,
Speaker 1: and they could go to certain games, but they couldn't
Speaker 1: go in the building like they used to, you know,
Speaker 1: just a different um building of information. This year. They
Speaker 1: had background stuff from the year prior on some of
Speaker 1: these guys. Of course, it goes along not just one
Speaker 1: year of information, but this last year of football play.
Speaker 1: It is the most recent, of course, and the most
Speaker 1: important and the most uh the one that you lean
Speaker 1: on the most. I think going into the draft and
Speaker 1: the way information is built I think this year and
Speaker 1: the way draft boards are built off that information, I
Speaker 1: think will be fascinating if anybody will actually tell you
Speaker 1: the truth that the into the draft. Well, I think
Speaker 1: this year when we had this conversation a while back,
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Speaker 1: because when when you don't have as much evidence I
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Speaker 1: people that know the prospects and that they can trust
Speaker 1: the word of these people that they're talking to. The
Speaker 1: scouts that have developed those type of relationships are gonna
Speaker 1: be the ones that end up having more accurate information
Speaker 1: for the decision makers for a Trent Balky or for
Speaker 1: an Urban Meyer when they do decide that they're gonna
Speaker 1: pick somebody. So so this is a year where it
Speaker 1: looked scouting departments are are gonna be under the microscope
Speaker 1: a little bit. And I know there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of change in every scouting department that has had
Speaker 1: some type of change at the top. You will see
Speaker 1: I believe this year, after the draft, you will see
Speaker 1: a lot of changes in multiple and all scouting departments,
Speaker 1: whether or not there was a change at the top,
Speaker 1: simply because of the fact that now is the time
Speaker 1: that the scouts have to show their worth. And if
Speaker 1: they don't show their worth in a year in which
Speaker 1: there was a pandemic, there's there's gonna be some that
Speaker 1: are on the alp playing simple. Let's come back in
Speaker 1: a moment. We've got defensive talk at headlogs. I know
Speaker 1: you like that. Joe Collen spoke with John Osier this
Speaker 1: week and he described what the Jaguars defense will be
Speaker 1: kind of We'll see we're about halfway home. It's Seaguars
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Speaker 1: lod M. One word offense. It is an offense heavy draft.
Speaker 1: You look at the top ten it's brought, you have
Speaker 1: at least nine players from the offensive side of the
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Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Hour and we continue. That's. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, have you listened to the ozone podcast? You should.
Speaker 1: I haven't listened to the one with Tony Pauline. To
Speaker 1: Paul does a great job. He does. He does a
Speaker 1: great job, very very informed, has his own opinion and
Speaker 1: then also it's pretty pretty connected to where he can
Speaker 1: for some opinions that are are floating around the league.
Speaker 1: So uh, that's that would be I would say, if
Speaker 1: you want to listen to something that would be worthy
Speaker 1: that right there, Tony Pauline. And of course because of
Speaker 1: John I was gonna ask you next, what do you
Speaker 1: think of John Osan. I'm I'm a big fan os
Speaker 1: On that we all are, trust me, and I say
Speaker 1: that kind of jokingly, but I also say that very seriously,
Speaker 1: because there's not very many pages that go uncovered when
Speaker 1: Ozone is on the job. It's true, there's his music.
Speaker 1: He has his own intro. That's how big. Yeah he does.
Speaker 1: Can you play that again? Yeah, we're gonna play the
Speaker 1: you know. It's like he's gonna walk out and go
Speaker 1: into the wrestling, the Squared Circle coming. So when he
Speaker 1: comes on the pregame show or whatever is the only
Speaker 1: things he uh. I would encourage him. And I haven't
Speaker 1: seen him lately, but I will the next time I
Speaker 1: see him on social media and I can't remember. I
Speaker 1: think it's his Instagram account or something like that. He's
Speaker 1: got this picture where he's wearing Joe It's like a
Speaker 1: black fedora and he's wearing sunglasses, you know, and he's
Speaker 1: trying to look cool. I think it was one of
Speaker 1: those video mailbags he used to do, probably, and it's
Speaker 1: it's a terrible look. It's terrible. It's as bad as
Speaker 1: when he had the ponytail back in the See I've
Speaker 1: heard of this ponytail, and he told us On Jaguar's
Speaker 1: Reporters the other week, there was a mullet question that
Speaker 1: came up since Gardner had the mullet thing. So I asked,
Speaker 1: you know that, My question was would you ever consider
Speaker 1: a mullet. My answer was no. Ashland was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm good. And then Zone was like, well, I had
Speaker 1: the ponytail, but Pee Prisco had what was almost a
Speaker 1: mullet back in those days. It wouldn't quite qualify didn't
Speaker 1: have a mullet. You had a mullet, but I didn't
Speaker 1: have a mullet. Didn't have mullet. I didn't have a
Speaker 1: mullet here. I had a mullet when I was into
Speaker 1: New York. And the back was pretty darn long, wasn't
Speaker 1: it in New York? Yeah? Oh yeah. It made John
Speaker 1: o Ocean's ponytail look like pigtails John's John Seriously, No, seriously,
Speaker 1: John had a ponytail that was about yea long. But
Speaker 1: I know that there's people listening on radio. He's about
Speaker 1: two inches so I mean once he got the band,
Speaker 1: the rubber band, and maybe it was sticking out two
Speaker 1: inches past the rubber band maybe, okay, And that was
Speaker 1: when he put this little ponytail up in the center
Speaker 1: of his head, okay, which indicates that he was grasping
Speaker 1: for hair. He had a hard time to get it
Speaker 1: my ponytail. On the other hand, it was not yea
Speaker 1: long How long is that? Yeah? Ten? Something like that. Okay,
Speaker 1: long is about tenant? Okay, that was a ponytail, but
Speaker 1: it was also kind of a semi mullet because sides
Speaker 1: they weren't as But see it wasn't you know you've
Speaker 1: seen the latest Guardener mens you picture, I'm probably I'm
Speaker 1: sure you have to it. So he put a new
Speaker 1: photo out of he got his mullet worked on the
Speaker 1: other I have not it is. It's all he has
Speaker 1: left to do is make a country album. And he's
Speaker 1: perfect because he leaned up against a fence post with
Speaker 1: a shirt open and a new haircut and the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pull it up right. And does that
Speaker 1: help make him a better quarterback? I don't think so. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: I would suggest that he only do more of those things. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well there you go. I don't know why we get
Speaker 1: off on the hair because I am not certainly not
Speaker 1: qualified on that. I'm not me. I would focus more
Speaker 1: on the football thing. I'm unqualified really on both matters. Hair,
Speaker 1: you know, quarterbacking all that. But you can grow a mullet.
Speaker 1: I could grow the party end of it, not the
Speaker 1: business end. What do you mean you're looking right at me,
Speaker 1: dud mullet is nothing, not about what's on the top. No,
Speaker 1: it's business in the front, party in the back, right,
Speaker 1: you got, I can't do the front. Business is business.
Speaker 1: Business doesn't have to look good. Business doesn't matter. Business
Speaker 1: is slow. The business can be slow, Business can be sleg,
Speaker 1: business can be bald. It doesn't matters. Can grow the party,
Speaker 1: darn right, darn right, I can. Let's move to our
Speaker 1: defensive talk, shall we promised it. Let's get to Joe
Speaker 1: Collen with John Osher this week on Jaguars dot Com.
Speaker 1: And really, the big notable quote out of this article,
Speaker 1: and there aren't many, no offense, John uh I was
Speaker 1: talking about what this defense is going to look like.
Speaker 1: Everybody's talking about three four four three. All a bunch
Speaker 1: of fans want three four and they're making such a
Speaker 1: big thing of this thing. And here's what Joe said.
Speaker 1: He said, quote it's a hybrid and and basically said
Speaker 1: it's an attacking defense with multiple looks of three four
Speaker 1: and four three, and you can suit it to your personnel,
Speaker 1: which is what we've said basically all offseason, which is
Speaker 1: what good coaches do. Coaches cater they're system to match
Speaker 1: or to best utilize the personnel that they have. And
Speaker 1: if that has three four elements, then it has three
Speaker 1: four elements. If it has for three elements, then four
Speaker 1: three elements. It should be able to do both. They
Speaker 1: could change week to week two. The one common the
Speaker 1: one common thread though that Joe talked about throughout this
Speaker 1: scheme talk was one word relentless. That's the important word
Speaker 1: when you have because schemes matter, but they matter less
Speaker 1: when you have players that are playing in a relentless fashion,
Speaker 1: and it gives you a chance to win. So I
Speaker 1: think that that's the most important thing that Joe will
Speaker 1: bring to this defense is a relentless performance attitude from
Speaker 1: the players. That's the way Joe coach, That's the way
Speaker 1: his rushman played, and that's the way he will I
Speaker 1: think set the tempo for this defense. Because the one
Speaker 1: thing he said in that interview, you always can control
Speaker 1: your effort, and that is extremely true. And so Joe
Speaker 1: is is right along the line because look, there's always
Speaker 1: talent differences. You're not gonna be able to fix all
Speaker 1: the defensive inadequacies that you have this year, but you
Speaker 1: can also make up for some of those with effort. Right,
Speaker 1: and like Urban says, right, you're gonna make a mistake,
Speaker 1: just go fast, have that effort, have that littless, have
Speaker 1: that plus two mentality, and then we can coach the
Speaker 1: things later. You know, you want to, you want to
Speaker 1: make sure you're doing things fast. But you know, I
Speaker 1: also understand what you're saying. But you know, the one
Speaker 1: thing that I will say, and I don't know exactly
Speaker 1: what Urban what the words he used were, you want
Speaker 1: to definitely do something fast, and if you're gonna make
Speaker 1: a mistake, make it at speed, right, But you also
Speaker 1: which rather not make the mistake good idea. It's better
Speaker 1: that you don't a mistake. And because there are times
Speaker 1: and this is a fact we were actually talking a
Speaker 1: couple of days ago. I was talking with Leon seriously
Speaker 1: and uh and Leon had asked me, what was my
Speaker 1: first big moment that I realized in the NFL, Like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it was like what I call or
Speaker 1: Leon called the welcome to the NFL moment. And because
Speaker 1: you know, when Urban and Joe are talking about performance
Speaker 1: and they want players to be fast, and they want
Speaker 1: performance to be relentless. There are always gonna be players
Speaker 1: that no matter how good you are, you're gonna lose
Speaker 1: on a play. That's just the way it is. The
Speaker 1: other players get paid too, and that will happen. You're
Speaker 1: just trying to minimize the frequency of that occurrence. Because
Speaker 1: I remember when I was a rookie JP there was
Speaker 1: a left tackle for the Colts by the name of
Speaker 1: Chris Hinton, you remember played and went on played for
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons as well. Chris Hinton was blocking me
Speaker 1: down the field ten to twenty yards on one play,
Speaker 1: just kicking my butt and it was embarrassing, and I
Speaker 1: was one of my Welcome to the NFL moments. But
Speaker 1: the welcome to the NFL moments never stopped there. Back
Speaker 1: when when I came to Jacksonville and we signed the
Speaker 1: most expensive tackle in the history of the game at
Speaker 1: that time, Leon seriously, and we brought him in here
Speaker 1: and me and Leon were doing a one on one
Speaker 1: passtrill and Leon had great punch, I mean, epic punch,
Speaker 1: one of the best punches in the league. And so
Speaker 1: my pass rush move was the old uh Mr Miyagi
Speaker 1: wax On wax off. You know you knocked the hands down. Well,
Speaker 1: I tried to time that up for Leon to knock
Speaker 1: his hands down and missed, and he jabbed me in
Speaker 1: my chest and I was doing the horizontal bomb to
Speaker 1: the ground on my back because Leon put it to me.
Speaker 1: I was in year seven. That's not a welcome to
Speaker 1: the NFL moment. That's an example of the other guys
Speaker 1: just was better. Sometimes it happens, that's the NFL. So
Speaker 1: he just hoped to minimize those things, you know, and
Speaker 1: not have him happen a whole lot. Good idea. That's
Speaker 1: that's a good planet. But I'm excited about Joe Calling.
Speaker 1: You know, this is a great We had him on
Speaker 1: here right after they hired him. Yeah, it's a great
Speaker 1: opportunity for him. There's not many people that come from
Speaker 1: the ranks of defensive line coach in the National Football
Speaker 1: League that rise to the position of defensive coordinator, and
Speaker 1: I'm excited about his opportunity. I'm excited about him because
Speaker 1: I've been a big fan of Joe Calling for a
Speaker 1: long period of time that stayed in touch with him
Speaker 1: after meeting him when he came through here. I don't
Speaker 1: remember what year it was, he was the last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they all kind of run together a little bit times.
Speaker 1: But uh, but I'm excited for him, and I'm excited
Speaker 1: the opportunity that he has under urban Meyer and also
Speaker 1: the excitement that this organization now has around it. Let's
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Speaker 1: it sounds like to do that that Jadeveon Clowne ain't
Speaker 1: familiar name, we know him in this division. Well, he
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Speaker 1: many sacks as you and I combined last year. Well
Speaker 1: that's I mean, First of all, he didn't play a lot.
Speaker 1: He was hurt, and so that obviously kept those numbers down.
Speaker 1: But Clowney has never been a big sack guy. His
Speaker 1: special ability is how he can literally disrupt an entire offense.
Speaker 1: But it's it's a challenge, I think, defensively for coordinators
Speaker 1: to find a way to utilize him and to still
Speaker 1: keep the defense sound. So what I what I mean
Speaker 1: by that is that typically a player positional player has
Speaker 1: an assignment. If you do that assignment, everybody else is
Speaker 1: able to do their job. Clowney's special ability is sometimes
Speaker 1: going off of that assignment that has been drawn up
Speaker 1: and then just utilizing his ability to create something. And
Speaker 1: that's where he gets special. And it's hard to manage
Speaker 1: a player like that within a scheme. Can the Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns do that? If they can, they will reap serious
Speaker 1: benefit to Clowney's performance. And Number two, he's got to
Speaker 1: stay healthy, which he has been unable to do. Cordaryl
Speaker 1: Patterson wide receivers, signed with the Falcons one year, three
Speaker 1: million dollars, great return man. Of course, it's now his
Speaker 1: fifth team in nine seasons, eight career kick return touchdown
Speaker 1: and two straight Pro Bowls. Of course, most recently he
Speaker 1: was used as receiver, lined up a running back and
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith, I'm sure as you know, devising some different
Speaker 1: plays for him. In the author Smith, former Tennessee Titans
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, now the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 1: And he does have a lot of ability, and I
Speaker 1: mean I'm talking Patterson, a lot of ability to do
Speaker 1: different things. He is has never been a quote unquote
Speaker 1: wide receiver. He's a guy that does better when the
Speaker 1: ball is handed off to him. He has a legitimate
Speaker 1: home run threat in the return game, reverses, speed, reverses,
Speaker 1: running back screams. He has special abilities, but you have
Speaker 1: to manage him in a way that you can't expect
Speaker 1: him to be a receiver to touch the ball. He
Speaker 1: does better when the ball is either handed to him
Speaker 1: or it's show it's thrown a very short distance to
Speaker 1: get the ball into his hands. So he will be
Speaker 1: in Atlanta and we'll see them, because the Jags out
Speaker 1: of the Falcons that this year. And by the way,
Speaker 1: the schedule apparently is going to come out after the draft.
Speaker 1: We kind of already knew that, but a week or so,
Speaker 1: probably after the draft, you will get the official schedule.
Speaker 1: Jim McMahon in the news this week. How about that?
Speaker 1: McMahon said in an interview this week, the Green Bay
Speaker 1: was the best franchise he was with in the NFL. Well,
Speaker 1: of course, you want a Super Bowl with the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: You want a Super Bowl with Green Bay Packers too. Correct.
Speaker 1: But on Chicago, he said, quote, I think it's where
Speaker 1: quarterbacks go to die. End quote. He was the backup,
Speaker 1: of course for Farvan Green Bay when they won Super
Speaker 1: Bowl thirty one. Well, it's it's right, He's not wrong.
Speaker 1: They they haven't had a signific a quarterback of significance
Speaker 1: in the National Football League in a long time. And
Speaker 1: you could say that Jim McMahon was not a quarterback
Speaker 1: of significance because in ninety five he was in what
Speaker 1: like year three of being uh in the National Football
Speaker 1: League and they just certainly didn't win because of him.
Speaker 1: They He wasn't a negative for that football team. He
Speaker 1: did a very good job. But the defense is what
Speaker 1: one that Super Bowl for the Chicago Bears. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was heck, that was the Super Bowl shuffle man,
Speaker 1: the video, everything, I mean, the defense was just was amazing. So,
Speaker 1: you know, and Jim, Jim has always been a little off,
Speaker 1: you know, so I don't I don't put a whole
Speaker 1: lot into what he says, because you know what, that
Speaker 1: may change that the Bears may end up getting may
Speaker 1: end up getting a quarterback in the draft and turns
Speaker 1: out to be a great player, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Chicago is now quarterback rich. You never know, think about this,
Speaker 1: and you know, I think of all people that I
Speaker 1: veto still you know at one point tweeted this some
Speaker 1: while ago, and it's stuck in my mind, actually tweeted,
Speaker 1: he tweets, so he tweets, all right, yes he does.
Speaker 1: But it was about the Bears quarterbacks in their history, right, well,
Speaker 1: the last Bears quarterback go back a long time to
Speaker 1: go in the Hall of Fame, sid Luckman. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know, here's the things crazy, said Luckman. Was damn good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope, so, said Luckman. But the Bears, okay, um,
Speaker 1: but here's the thing. At least they had, said Luckman.
Speaker 1: There's some teams in the National Football League that you
Speaker 1: could say the same thing about. And but they don't
Speaker 1: have a said Luckman. So at least they had, said Luckman. Right,
Speaker 1: the Jags don't. Yes, yes, what do you think what
Speaker 1: do the Jaguars have a? Said Luckman. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: not at all. That's my point. Yeah. No, Mark Burnell
Speaker 1: was really good. He wasn't, said Luckman. What wasn't anywhere
Speaker 1: near land? No, maybe the guy coming in could be.
Speaker 1: Maybe that'd be nice. I'd be Fantasticake that in a minute,
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is he said Luckman? Uh, that would be
Speaker 1: said bad Luckman. Yeah, it's not going well. The saga continues.
Speaker 1: One of the twenty two plaintiffs dropped a case against Watson,
Speaker 1: but a new lawsuit came in from another woman, so
Speaker 1: the totals back at the Judges ruled last week that
Speaker 1: thirteen plantiffs would have to reveal their names. Only two
Speaker 1: up to that point had been publicly identified. And the
Speaker 1: Houston p D is open in invest an investigation now.
Speaker 1: The NFL investigation continues. So that's the latest. Whatever happened,
Speaker 1: whatever happens. The one thing we do know, DeShawn Watson's
Speaker 1: reputation is ruined. I mean, whether he ends up being
Speaker 1: guilty criminally or not. The the admission I think by
Speaker 1: his lawyer that there was consensual acts and in all
Speaker 1: these massage therapists, and you know, and he's forty some
Speaker 1: odd massage therapists. In the in the court of public opinion,
Speaker 1: people are now looking at DeShawn Watson that he's not
Speaker 1: a high quality guy. It didn't take long either, by
Speaker 1: the way, for all that to go. It takes years
Speaker 1: to build a good reputation, it takes minutes to tear
Speaker 1: it down. Logs, you're digging deep on today's show. I
Speaker 1: like that I tried, JP, I try, It's great to
Speaker 1: see you, great, we'll catch you next week. And Joe
Speaker 1: fortune Oto, Brinton Reaver, maybe Jeff Logeman, maybe J. P. Shadrick.
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