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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April fifteen. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Duvo Motor Company. And now

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Speaker 1: a guy who'd really like it if somebody, anybody would

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Speaker 1: Please welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Jeff

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Speaker 1: Logavan planning to get to here's what's on the program today.

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Speaker 1: The offseason program schedule announced. How many teams will show

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Speaker 1: for it? Well, we know a few that are not

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Speaker 1: planning to will get to that. Trevor Lawrence featured in

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Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated yesterday and some comments from maybe the future

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Speaker 1: Jaguars quarterback. Joe Cullen, the Jaguars defensive coordinator, describes the

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Speaker 1: defensive scheme to John Osher in an article on Jaguars

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Speaker 1: dot com. We'll discuss and we'll go around the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. Good afternoon, Lot, Good afternoon. Did you just

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Speaker 1: say that Trevor Lawrence could be the Jaguars? I mean

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Speaker 1: he's not yet. I mean in theory. What is the

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Speaker 1: draft now? Three two weeks, two weeks away April nine.

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget the In the weeks leading up to

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Speaker 1: the draft. And this is going back a long time ago. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: uh huh, it's a little while ago. I will tell

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Speaker 1: you how old I was that year. Okay, were you

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Speaker 1: single digits? Yes, I was, But I remember very distinctly,

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Speaker 1: and I was sitting there going, just don't get hurt.

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Speaker 1: You know, you drive your car, you know you're you're

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Speaker 1: being real careful in the right lane. Remember that commercial

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Speaker 1: that was in the Super Bowl a few years ago,

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Speaker 1: and and the old couples driving in and he and he.

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Speaker 1: She turns to her husband says, you're driving like a

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Speaker 1: bad out of Haiti, and he's just kind of creeping alone.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of what I was doing prior

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Speaker 1: to the draft to me, because the only thing in

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Speaker 1: your mind is just get me to the draft. Get

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Speaker 1: me to the draft, and let me get selected. And

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Speaker 1: then after that, you know, maybe we'll throw a little

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Speaker 1: bit less caution to the wind. But uh, but that's

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Speaker 1: kind of where it was at and and but it's

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Speaker 1: an amazing time for all these prospects. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: families are excited, and I know, with COVID and everything else,

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Speaker 1: that certainly was a challenging year. But I mean this

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Speaker 1: is a. This is a big moment for for some

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Speaker 1: of these young men. This is a big moment for

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Speaker 1: their families, and we certainly understand that it's a big

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Speaker 1: moment for some franchises. This one included right at the top.

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Speaker 1: It was interesting you talk about almost basically bubble wrapping

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Speaker 1: yourself travel. There's Jabril Cox is a linebacker for l

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Speaker 1: s U. He's working out like his own little pro

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Speaker 1: day three days before the draft. Yeah. I wouldn't do that,

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Speaker 1: which is I mean, you know, maybe he just wants

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Speaker 1: to prove something or whatever. Why I mean, for me, uh,

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Speaker 1: why would you have, first of all, three days prior

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Speaker 1: so to speak. What I mean by that is, most

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Speaker 1: of the teams have already done their draft order stacking.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think a workout that's three days prior

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Speaker 1: yourself with a workout three days prior to the draft.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, I just don't understand the value for

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Speaker 1: to some of the biggest news this week around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: The off season program finally has been announced by the NFL,

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Speaker 1: but the NFL p A is sending out a few

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Speaker 1: announcements that some teams will not be attending the voluntary practice.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the schedule as announced by the league,

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Speaker 1: though it was announced yesterday. Phase one starts Monday and

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Speaker 1: it goes through May fourteenth. Virtual meetings only, still the

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Speaker 1: same limits as are now in the facility in the

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Speaker 1: weight room, and the clubs will all effort vaccine availability

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Speaker 1: for players, staff and their families. Phase two is only

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Speaker 1: a few days long, May seventeenth. One virtual meetings on

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Speaker 1: Phase three, we know it as ot as May four

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Speaker 1: person or virtual meetings. And then here we go. Then

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Speaker 1: the break comes, and then training camp at the end

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Speaker 1: don't understand why why you would put as a union,

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Speaker 1: you know for a fact that not everybody's gonna comply.

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Speaker 1: Because the one thing that you have to be able

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Speaker 1: high off season incentives. And the reason why they have

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Speaker 1: a hard time attracting the players to live in Green

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Speaker 1: been that way for years, and so there are significant

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Speaker 1: because the union put out a statement that says, you know,

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Speaker 1: here's the other reality. If you're vaccinated and you're in

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Speaker 1: It makes zero sense for the union to put out

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Speaker 1: I've been a union guy. I was a vice president

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Speaker 1: have no understanding as to why the union would do this.

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Speaker 1: I think J. C. Treader stepped on his tongue and

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Speaker 1: this one. So there's there are six teams now. The

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Speaker 1: and then I think they realized, oh wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: some guys really have to go to get these bonus checks. Well,

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Speaker 1: some teams with different offseason structures, right for the bonuses

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Speaker 1: and all that, the workout bonuses and the Jaguars, Uh,

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Speaker 1: the Cap dot com as well. Well. The Bills have

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Speaker 1: twenty eight players with workout bonuses just over three million

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars are next right there with twenty four players

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Speaker 1: at three point seven million dollars, which has always been

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Speaker 1: the way that the Jaguars have wanted to be and

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Speaker 1: it started going back in the days of Tom Coffin.

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Speaker 1: Tom Coffin wanted his players here in this market, and

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Speaker 1: then it continued on throughout and then obviously a lot

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Speaker 1: of the incentives that we're seeing aren't recently negotiated by

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Speaker 1: But I just I just don't understand why why do

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Speaker 1: the biggest point JP is why would you put a

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Speaker 1: I rather come to t I a bank field and

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Speaker 1: as individuals, We as a union support our membership whatever

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Speaker 1: a blanket statement that says that they shouldn't go. It's

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Speaker 1: It's an assinine statement by the union. Wouldn't you say

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Speaker 1: here's the bad part. It's gonna make the union look bad. Really,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna make the union look bad because where the

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Speaker 1: where the unions has had Detroit, Buffalo or whoever they

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Speaker 1: probably their safest alternative to preparing for a season, is

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Speaker 1: How's that gonna make the union look It's gonna make

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Speaker 1: not saying that they have to do that. I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying that I would be personally encouraged because as much

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Speaker 1: better chance to get. It's like the ping pong balls

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Speaker 1: you know from the NBA draft, right, and don't they

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Speaker 1: it's one of those. And I'm sure we'll hear a

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Speaker 1: process this year of college players, you know, and and

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Speaker 1: you know, to find out information on guys because they

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Speaker 1: couldn't go on campus this year and do campus visits,

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Speaker 1: and they could go to certain games, but they couldn't

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Speaker 1: go in the building like they used to, you know,

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Speaker 1: just a different um building of information. This year. They

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Speaker 1: these guys. Of course, it goes along not just one

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Speaker 1: the way draft boards are built off that information, I

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Speaker 1: really going to find out how good your scouting department is,

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Speaker 1: because when when you don't have as much evidence I

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Speaker 1: be the ones that end up having more accurate information

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Speaker 1: you know, have you listened to the ozone podcast? You should.

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Speaker 1: I haven't listened to the one with Tony Pauline. To

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Speaker 1: then also it's pretty pretty connected to where he can

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Speaker 1: So uh, that's that would be I would say, if

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Speaker 1: see him on social media and I can't remember. I

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Speaker 1: got this picture where he's wearing Joe It's like a

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Speaker 1: those video mailbags he used to do, probably, and it's

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Speaker 1: it's a terrible look. It's terrible. It's as bad as

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Speaker 1: when he had the ponytail back in the See I've

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Speaker 1: Reporters the other week, there was a mullet question that

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Speaker 1: the ponytail, but Pee Prisco had what was almost a

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Speaker 1: mullet back in those days. It wouldn't quite qualify didn't

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Speaker 1: have a mullet. You had a mullet, but I didn't

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Speaker 1: have a mullet. Didn't have mullet. I didn't have a

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Speaker 1: New York. And the back was pretty darn long, wasn't

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Speaker 1: it in New York? Yeah? Oh yeah. It made John

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Speaker 1: o Ocean's ponytail look like pigtails John's John Seriously, No, seriously,

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Speaker 1: John had a ponytail that was about yea long. But

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Speaker 1: I know that there's people listening on radio. He's about

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Speaker 1: inches past the rubber band maybe, okay, And that was

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Speaker 1: when he put this little ponytail up in the center

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Speaker 1: for hair. He had a hard time to get it

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Speaker 1: my ponytail. On the other hand, it was not yea

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Speaker 1: long How long is that? Yeah? Ten? Something like that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: long is about tenant? Okay, that was a ponytail, but

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Speaker 1: it was also kind of a semi mullet because sides

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Speaker 1: they weren't as But see it wasn't you know you've

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Speaker 1: sure you have to it. So he put a new

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Speaker 1: other I have not it is. It's all he has

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Speaker 1: perfect because he leaned up against a fence post with

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pull it up right. And does that

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Speaker 1: help make him a better quarterback? I don't think so. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: I would suggest that he only do more of those things. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Well there you go. I don't know why we get

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Speaker 1: off on the hair because I am not certainly not

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Speaker 1: qualified on that. I'm not me. I would focus more

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Speaker 1: And really, the big notable quote out of this article,

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Speaker 1: Everybody's talking about three four four three. All a bunch

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Speaker 1: which is what we've said basically all offseason, which is

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Speaker 1: if that has three four elements, then it has three

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Speaker 1: three elements. It should be able to do both. They

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Speaker 1: one common thread though that Joe talked about throughout this

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Speaker 1: think that that's the most important thing that Joe will

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Speaker 1: bring to this defense is a relentless performance attitude from

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Speaker 1: the players. That's the way Joe coach, That's the way

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Speaker 1: his rushman played, and that's the way he will I

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677
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Speaker 1: your effort, and that is extremely true. And so Joe

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Speaker 1: the defensive inadequacies that you have this year, but you

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Speaker 1: things later. You know, you want to, you want to

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Speaker 1: or so, The National Football League is announced a tri

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Speaker 1: exclusive official sports betting partners multi year agreements with Caesar's Entertainment,

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Speaker 1: Draft Kings and Fan Duel, was the league's first ever

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Speaker 1: US sports book partnerships. The official casino sponsor of the

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Speaker 1: NFL is Caesar's Entertainment, Draft Kings or News the rights

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Speaker 1: as the official daily fantasy partner of the NFL. So

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Speaker 1: Caesar's Draft Kings and Fan Duel have a right to

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Speaker 1: integrate relevant sports betting content directly into NFL media properties,

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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com, the NFL app Uh, they've got NFL

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Speaker 1: highlight abilities now on DraftKings and Fan Duel multi year agreements.

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Speaker 1: As we said, they can leverage NFL marks within the

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Speaker 1: sports betting category and activate around retail and online sports betting.

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Speaker 1: About that, right, because she remember some years ago and

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Speaker 1: not not even that long ago, oh Tony Romo couldn't

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Speaker 1: do a fantasy football convention near a casino, And here

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Speaker 1: we are, it's five years and that that was the

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Speaker 1: NFL being hypocritical at the time, wanting to uh essentially

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Speaker 1: keep everything in their court. And the league has run

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Speaker 1: away from any kind of associations with gambling for many years,

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Speaker 1: but now they've discovered that they can make a lot

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Speaker 1: of money with it. I still have to keep the

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Speaker 1: integrity of the game crystal, which you never want to

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Speaker 1: lose that, and I don't believe that they will, but

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Speaker 1: it definitely there's a different landscape when it comes to that.

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Speaker 1: But it's good. But I think it's good. Like I mean,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people enjoy that that that aspect of

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Speaker 1: the game. Some people want to bet on every aspect

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Speaker 1: of a game. They want to bet on the coin toss. Why.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I just I just know that

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Speaker 1: that there are people that enjoy that. And if that's

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Speaker 1: what you enjoy, more power to you. Well you can

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Speaker 1: have a different more official ways now through the NFL,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like to do that that Jadeveon Clowne ain't

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Speaker 1: familiar name, we know him in this division. Well, he

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Speaker 1: assigned logs with the Cleveland Browns one year up to

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Speaker 1: ten million dollars. That includes this a four and a

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Speaker 1: half million dollar signing bonus, two and a half million

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Speaker 1: dollar guaranteed salary this year, a million dollars if he

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Speaker 1: makes the roster forty six million roster two million in incentives.

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Speaker 1: That includes one million in playing time and a million

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Speaker 1: in sacks and all. It's one year, eight million dollars

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Speaker 1: base up to ten million dollars. And he had as

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Speaker 1: many sacks as you and I combined last year. Well

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Speaker 1: that's I mean, First of all, he didn't play a lot.

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Speaker 1: He was hurt, and so that obviously kept those numbers down.

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Speaker 1: But Clowney has never been a big sack guy. His

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Speaker 1: special ability is how he can literally disrupt an entire offense.

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Speaker 1: But it's it's a challenge, I think, defensively for coordinators

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Speaker 1: to find a way to utilize him and to still

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Speaker 1: keep the defense sound. So what I what I mean

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Speaker 1: by that is that typically a player positional player has

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Speaker 1: an assignment. If you do that assignment, everybody else is

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Speaker 1: able to do their job. Clowney's special ability is sometimes

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Speaker 1: going off of that assignment that has been drawn up

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Speaker 1: and then just utilizing his ability to create something. And

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Speaker 1: that's where he gets special. And it's hard to manage

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Speaker 1: a player like that within a scheme. Can the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns do that? If they can, they will reap serious

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Speaker 1: benefit to Clowney's performance. And Number two, he's got to

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Speaker 1: stay healthy, which he has been unable to do. Cordaryl

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Speaker 1: Patterson wide receivers, signed with the Falcons one year, three

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Speaker 1: million dollars, great return man. Of course, it's now his

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Speaker 1: fifth team in nine seasons, eight career kick return touchdown

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Speaker 1: and two straight Pro Bowls. Of course, most recently he

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Speaker 1: was used as receiver, lined up a running back and

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Speaker 1: Arthur Smith, I'm sure as you know, devising some different

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Speaker 1: plays for him. In the author Smith, former Tennessee Titans

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, now the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 1: And he does have a lot of ability, and I

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Speaker 1: mean I'm talking Patterson, a lot of ability to do

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Speaker 1: different things. He is has never been a quote unquote

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. He's a guy that does better when the

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Speaker 1: ball is handed off to him. He has a legitimate

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Speaker 1: home run threat in the return game, reverses, speed, reverses,

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Speaker 1: running back screams. He has special abilities, but you have

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Speaker 1: to manage him in a way that you can't expect

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Speaker 1: him to be a receiver to touch the ball. He

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Speaker 1: does better when the ball is either handed to him

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Speaker 1: or it's show it's thrown a very short distance to

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Speaker 1: get the ball into his hands. So he will be

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta and we'll see them, because the Jags out

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Speaker 1: of the Falcons that this year. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: the schedule apparently is going to come out after the draft.

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Speaker 1: We kind of already knew that, but a week or so,

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Speaker 1: probably after the draft, you will get the official schedule.

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Speaker 1: Jim McMahon in the news this week. How about that?

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Speaker 1: McMahon said in an interview this week, the Green Bay

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Speaker 1: was the best franchise he was with in the NFL. Well,

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Speaker 1: of course, you want a Super Bowl with the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 1: You want a Super Bowl with Green Bay Packers too. Correct.

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Speaker 1: But on Chicago, he said, quote, I think it's where

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks go to die. End quote. He was the backup,

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Speaker 1: of course for Farvan Green Bay when they won Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl thirty one. Well, it's it's right, He's not wrong.

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Speaker 1: They they haven't had a signific a quarterback of significance

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League in a long time. And

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Speaker 1: you could say that Jim McMahon was not a quarterback

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Speaker 1: of significance because in ninety five he was in what

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Speaker 1: like year three of being uh in the National Football

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Speaker 1: League and they just certainly didn't win because of him.

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Speaker 1: They He wasn't a negative for that football team. He

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Speaker 1: did a very good job. But the defense is what

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Speaker 1: one that Super Bowl for the Chicago Bears. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that was heck, that was the Super Bowl shuffle man,

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Speaker 1: the video, everything, I mean, the defense was just was amazing. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, and Jim, Jim has always been a little off,

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Speaker 1: you know, so I don't I don't put a whole

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Speaker 1: lot into what he says, because you know what, that

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Speaker 1: may change that the Bears may end up getting may

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Speaker 1: end up getting a quarterback in the draft and turns

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Speaker 1: out to be a great player, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: Chicago is now quarterback rich. You never know, think about this,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I think of all people that I

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Speaker 1: veto still you know at one point tweeted this some

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Speaker 1: while ago, and it's stuck in my mind, actually tweeted,

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Speaker 1: he tweets, so he tweets, all right, yes he does.

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Speaker 1: But it was about the Bears quarterbacks in their history, right, well,

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Speaker 1: the last Bears quarterback go back a long time to

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Speaker 1: go in the Hall of Fame, sid Luckman. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: you know, here's the things crazy, said Luckman. Was damn good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hope, so, said Luckman. But the Bears, okay, um,

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Speaker 1: but here's the thing. At least they had, said Luckman.

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Speaker 1: There's some teams in the National Football League that you

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Speaker 1: could say the same thing about. And but they don't

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Speaker 1: have a said Luckman. So at least they had, said Luckman. Right,

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Speaker 1: the Jags don't. Yes, yes, what do you think what

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Speaker 1: do the Jaguars have a? Said Luckman. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: not at all. That's my point. Yeah. No, Mark Burnell

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Speaker 1: was really good. He wasn't, said Luckman. What wasn't anywhere

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Speaker 1: near land? No, maybe the guy coming in could be.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that'd be nice. I'd be Fantasticake that in a minute,

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is he said Luckman? Uh, that would be

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Speaker 1: said bad Luckman. Yeah, it's not going well. The saga continues.

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Speaker 1: One of the twenty two plaintiffs dropped a case against Watson,

984
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Speaker 1: but a new lawsuit came in from another woman, so

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Speaker 1: the totals back at the Judges ruled last week that

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Speaker 1: thirteen plantiffs would have to reveal their names. Only two

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Speaker 1: up to that point had been publicly identified. And the

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Speaker 1: Houston p D is open in invest an investigation now.

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Speaker 1: The NFL investigation continues. So that's the latest. Whatever happened,

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Speaker 1: whatever happens. The one thing we do know, DeShawn Watson's

991
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Speaker 1: reputation is ruined. I mean, whether he ends up being

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00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: guilty criminally or not. The the admission I think by

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Speaker 1: his lawyer that there was consensual acts and in all

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Speaker 1: these massage therapists, and you know, and he's forty some

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Speaker 1: odd massage therapists. In the in the court of public opinion,

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Speaker 1: people are now looking at DeShawn Watson that he's not

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Speaker 1: a high quality guy. It didn't take long either, by

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Speaker 1: the way, for all that to go. It takes years

999
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Speaker 1: to build a good reputation, it takes minutes to tear

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Speaker 1: it down. Logs, you're digging deep on today's show. I

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Speaker 1: like that I tried, JP, I try, It's great to

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Speaker 1: see you, great, we'll catch you next week. And Joe

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Speaker 1: fortune Oto, Brinton Reaver, maybe Jeff Logeman, maybe J. P. Shadrick.

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