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Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys,
Speaker 1: I am back on this amazing show. Sorry for those
Speaker 1: of you who are listening in the hate me for
Speaker 1: whatever reason. What I'm bad? What a passive aggressive intro
Speaker 1: into the show. Just just a gaze, just engage. But
Speaker 1: in cowboys world, in Garrett's world, today is a Friday,
Speaker 1: so I wanted to get it and I wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about several guys that showed up on the practice report.
Speaker 1: We don't need to do inactives or any of that today,
Speaker 1: We'll do that tomorrow. But as far as some of
Speaker 1: the line guy we know, Tyren Smith still hasn't done
Speaker 1: anything as of right now, and from what I heard
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones say, it would end up being kind of
Speaker 1: a game day decision again similar to what happened last
Speaker 1: weekend or last Thursday. But then as far as Zack Martin,
Speaker 1: and saw Philo again. Guys that are a key to
Speaker 1: the offensive line, they've been on a limited basis. Were
Speaker 1: they doing some things today as well? Limited? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: the it's the same. It's the routine that we always
Speaker 1: talk about, which is, you know, if you're doing something
Speaker 1: by Thursday heading into Friday, it's it's probably a pretty
Speaker 1: good sign that you're going to play, especially the more
Speaker 1: veteran you are. Zach and Xavier have been in uniform
Speaker 1: the last two days. I feel really good about them practicing.
Speaker 1: Have not seen Tyren Smith since Sunday. Was not there today,
Speaker 1: was not there yesterday. Jerry Jones said, you know, we'll
Speaker 1: see how he feels on game day, which you know,
Speaker 1: for Jerry Jones to say that much is not a
Speaker 1: good sign. I really a trend toward thinking that Cam
Speaker 1: Fleming is going to have to play left tackle in
Speaker 1: this game. And then again, the old line has finally
Speaker 1: started clicking with the changes in the coaching and you know,
Speaker 1: adding so a field on there. It's been flowing pretty
Speaker 1: good and doing their job. Now when you look at
Speaker 1: this report, although it's nothing crazy, but when you see
Speaker 1: certain guys being limited and stuff like that, how alarming
Speaker 1: does this start becoming to an area that is just
Speaker 1: now finally starting to click. Well, they have to be
Speaker 1: perfect on offense to win this game. They can't like
Speaker 1: have any you can't get down in the red zone
Speaker 1: and then they take a sack or a penalty and
Speaker 1: then kick a field goal. Field goals aren't going to
Speaker 1: win this game. So you know, you you have to
Speaker 1: be perfect, I think, to win. And then you have
Speaker 1: to get at least thirty points to win the game.
Speaker 1: And so therefore, in my opinion, so therefore, all the
Speaker 1: injuries situations, even if it's one or two plays, they
Speaker 1: could be the ones that affect them from stalling a drive.
Speaker 1: And so you know, it's in any other situation you think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they could manage it. And you're gonna play Washington,
Speaker 1: I think they could manage it. But against New Orleans
Speaker 1: that they just can't. They have no room for error. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and tape on Austin is still a question mark. And
Speaker 1: it came it came to mind, and I laughed because
Speaker 1: at the game, you know, he got on top of
Speaker 1: the bench and it's like moving around and dancing around,
Speaker 1: and it reminded me of what Nick has been saying
Speaker 1: from practice. Trying to take a video today and I
Speaker 1: almost had my phone taken from me, so it didn't work. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: they take that stuff pretty seriously, so I try to
Speaker 1: take but it would have been a great video. He
Speaker 1: is a dancing fool. It was. He looks ready to go.
Speaker 1: I don't think he plays this week. I think he
Speaker 1: plays against the I was about to say the Giants,
Speaker 1: because it seems like every time, well no, it seems
Speaker 1: like every time they come back from from the Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: break it's always at the Giants, But that's not true.
Speaker 1: This year, it's Philly. I think he plays for Philly.
Speaker 1: You get along. I mean it's basically a half bye week,
Speaker 1: so I would make sense him for December. That's that's
Speaker 1: pretty good. I'd love to see him now with a
Speaker 1: Marie Cooper and what they got going on offense. I
Speaker 1: think he'll be a great addition if they can use
Speaker 1: him right. How do you think they would utilize him? Well,
Speaker 1: the same, honestly, the same way that I've been wanting
Speaker 1: them to use him all season, which is he's your
Speaker 1: gadget player, and now he can be your legitimate gadget
Speaker 1: player because you've got a wide receiver threat, Like you
Speaker 1: got a legitimate threat out there that can take it
Speaker 1: to the house on any given play. You've got a
Speaker 1: running back that can take to the house on any
Speaker 1: given play. Now you have a gadget player that can
Speaker 1: also take it to the house on any given play.
Speaker 1: Use him as a gadget player, use him underneath, use
Speaker 1: him on in the rounds, like, use him on stuff
Speaker 1: that just throws the defense off and makes him think
Speaker 1: about one more thing that they didn't have to think
Speaker 1: about before, which just creates more opportunity to get one
Speaker 1: on one situations. With Zeke in space and with a
Speaker 1: Mariy Cooper in space, I just love everything about that.
Speaker 1: If they use him the right way, I want that desperately.
Speaker 1: I have the next to no faith that it will happen. Well,
Speaker 1: I will say this, and maybe it's just a function
Speaker 1: of them winning, but it does seem and feel to
Speaker 1: me like off offensively, they've done some things a little
Speaker 1: bit different since they've added Amari Cooper into the mix.
Speaker 1: So I'm honest, I'm interested to see how that looks
Speaker 1: with Amari Cooper in the mix, how that looks now
Speaker 1: when you add him back in, because I do think
Speaker 1: they're changing up some things offensively on and just strategically
Speaker 1: the kinds of things they're doing. Yeah, we'll see, Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll see. Hopefully it works out and he's able to
Speaker 1: bring up some actions that we haven't seen before. I
Speaker 1: would think Connor Williams will be your swing tackle now.
Speaker 1: I mean he left tackle right. It's a good point,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean if if Tyron, well, Tyron might
Speaker 1: be he might be active in this game the same
Speaker 1: way he was active last week, which you know it could,
Speaker 1: but that was a break glass in case of emergency situation.
Speaker 1: So because it was Redman out yet Redman had a
Speaker 1: concussion so he was out. He will be I mean
Speaker 1: he'll be available for this though. So because he will
Speaker 1: be back and being your guards center backup, I think
Speaker 1: I think Connor Williams has to be your tackle backup,
Speaker 1: unless you think on the practice Poe um crap I
Speaker 1: left my roster upstairs. Uh, there's definitely they're campos is
Speaker 1: he's still here and yeah, no, I think you'd probably
Speaker 1: stay with what you got. I do think by Hooker,
Speaker 1: by Crook, I think an offensive lineman is probably an
Speaker 1: active this week, though, but I don't like I don't
Speaker 1: like the idea. It's kind to me. I don't know
Speaker 1: that statement. I don't like the idea of Tyrone being
Speaker 1: active and not starting and being your backup, because because
Speaker 1: of how good a player he is, if he's not starting,
Speaker 1: that means he's really bad off. That's I don't like
Speaker 1: putting him in in a in a pinch situation with
Speaker 1: him really bad. I would I mean, if he can't play,
Speaker 1: either he's playing or not. In my opinion, if he
Speaker 1: can't play, I would make said about DeMarcus ware back
Speaker 1: in oh nine. You know, either's playing or he's not,
Speaker 1: and he's the defensive player of the week. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: kind of bring a little bit different though a little
Speaker 1: a little different because with him you can at least
Speaker 1: rotate him into a play here, play there, your tackle.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be out there, and that's well. They're both
Speaker 1: were laying down the ground, not moving. It's it's an
Speaker 1: interesting parallel. It's an interesting parallel just in the sense
Speaker 1: that they are both in a class of player that
Speaker 1: they don't need a practice rep to go out there
Speaker 1: agree with that game, which is why if it was
Speaker 1: anybody else, there's maybe there's probably five players on this
Speaker 1: team who fit into that category where if it was
Speaker 1: anybody else, I'd be like, he's down, but you really
Speaker 1: you can't rule him out until the inactives come out
Speaker 1: ninety minutes prior to kick right, I'm agreeing with all that.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is if they make the determination, as
Speaker 1: they did last week, that he's so bad off right
Speaker 1: that he cannot start and play, then don't put him
Speaker 1: in there at all. Don't because he's such a warrior.
Speaker 1: If he can't play at all, then putting him out there,
Speaker 1: if you get in a pinch, ain't gonna be good
Speaker 1: because he can't play. Literally, he cannot play. I agree
Speaker 1: with you, and I kind of think that they know
Speaker 1: that too. That's I mean, they only they needed a
Speaker 1: left tackle for one play last week when Fleming lost
Speaker 1: his shoe, and they didn't put him in the US
Speaker 1: Connors exactly right. It's like, well, great glass in case
Speaker 1: of emergency, like clearly not It clearly means he's not
Speaker 1: ready or it wasn't ready to go right, glass in
Speaker 1: case of emergency, And they got the little hatchet they
Speaker 1: usually have in there, but it doesn't have a thing
Speaker 1: on the top of it. It's just the wooden stick,
Speaker 1: like it's not gonna do any good, bro, So we'll
Speaker 1: see that's you know, I'm gonna it's definitely in a
Speaker 1: situation where you know, we'll get to the game early
Speaker 1: and have our binoculars on what Tyrants had before the
Speaker 1: game and all that good type of stuff. That's really interesting. Now,
Speaker 1: obviously we've seen the struggles that Connor has had at
Speaker 1: the guard position, just you know, room for improvement and
Speaker 1: growth that needs to happen. If that was to happen,
Speaker 1: where you now move him at Tyrant's position as a tackle,
Speaker 1: which is a position where we've seen in the past
Speaker 1: how much it affected Dik Prescott and what they were
Speaker 1: doing when it's not well played chess? Right, everyone remembers chess.
Speaker 1: So who's going to be here? If Connor was to
Speaker 1: be moved there, how much do you think he would
Speaker 1: struggle there? And how much? I mean, yeah, well, I
Speaker 1: remember he'd be moved for as a backup. I mean
Speaker 1: well yeah yeah, but if he needed yeah, he had
Speaker 1: to come in. I mean. The problem is is this
Speaker 1: team doesn't have a lot of tight end help that
Speaker 1: can that can help Chip, you know, and you'd have
Speaker 1: to leave some running backs, and it would change how
Speaker 1: you do you have to give help, and it would
Speaker 1: change how you want to play your offense. Um, I
Speaker 1: mean who do they have on that right side over there?
Speaker 1: I mean who Jordan Camp Camp? Jordan? Yeah, Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, he's a pretty good player. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think it would be the thing about
Speaker 1: Connor Williams is that he is He's a fighter. I
Speaker 1: mean he will he will go in there and scrap,
Speaker 1: and I think he would be Okay, I don't think
Speaker 1: he would be that great, but I think he would
Speaker 1: be better than than cha. Yeah, he's got more fighting
Speaker 1: than than Chatz. I mean, he just does. I mean
Speaker 1: we saw that since the day he got here, and
Speaker 1: I think wherever they end up putting him, he will
Speaker 1: be a good player. This week, you expect that they'll
Speaker 1: probably practice him a tackle. Yeah, that'd be my expectation, right, yep,
Speaker 1: if they don't think Tyrn can go, especially even if
Speaker 1: they did, I think Tyron could go. My point is
Speaker 1: there's a better chance that he's going to have to
Speaker 1: get in the game this week at tackle there than
Speaker 1: it is a guard. Right. I'd like to see him
Speaker 1: get some reps there. I bet he's doing that, especially
Speaker 1: if you got Redman back, you just let Redman be
Speaker 1: your your swing center of guard. Yeah, and look at
Speaker 1: him as a swing tackle at least for this week,
Speaker 1: until you get to a point where you feel more
Speaker 1: comfortable with where Tyron is from a health standpoint. I
Speaker 1: think that's probably a better option, right, all right, it
Speaker 1: is a good point from you. A g that right
Speaker 1: as the which I mean, you know, Fleming played last
Speaker 1: week and they were all right, but you know the
Speaker 1: line was kind of rounding into a better forum, and
Speaker 1: now you're obviously taking all these contingency plans. It's kind
Speaker 1: of unfortunate. Yeah, let's go ahead and take an early
Speaker 1: break because I don't want to interrupt Dave's awesome report
Speaker 1: that he has about the Saints offense. Hopefully he has
Speaker 1: some hope for this one. I hope he's able to
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Speaker 1: is the second segment off the break. Um. Yeah, the Saints.
Speaker 1: They're an okay team. They're coming to town tomorrow to
Speaker 1: play against the Cowboys on Thursday. Yeah, all right, they're
Speaker 1: pretty good. They I mean, Nick's right, he could do
Speaker 1: this like we don't need to I don't need to
Speaker 1: do the thing where I talk for like eight minutes.
Speaker 1: This is well. Statistically, they're not the best offense in
Speaker 1: the league, but they might as well be something interesting
Speaker 1: that that I bet fans don't know. And what Brian
Speaker 1: said when he was watching him was that this is
Speaker 1: the best offensive line he's seen all year. They are
Speaker 1: impressive and that shouldn't be surprising. I think Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: basically said this, you know, I mean everybody knows Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: everybody knows what he can do. But much like Tony Romo,
Speaker 1: this team wasn't very good when he was just put
Speaker 1: carrying everything on his back. I mean he was throwing
Speaker 1: for five six thousand yards a year and they were
Speaker 1: winning seven or eight games like three years in a row.
Speaker 1: Like you know, people were talking about firing Sean Payton
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. So what do they do. They
Speaker 1: draft Tron Armstead in the I think the third round.
Speaker 1: He developed into a great player. If they spend a
Speaker 1: first round pick on Andrews Pete, who's now their guard.
Speaker 1: They traded Jimmy Graham for Max Unger who's been you know,
Speaker 1: rock Steady center for years. Larry Warford they get from Detroit.
Speaker 1: He's a premium draft pick. And Ryan Ramsack is a
Speaker 1: first round pick at right tackle. So I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not quite the level of resources that the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: sunk into their line, and not much different, not that
Speaker 1: much different at all. And Toronto Armstead is probably not
Speaker 1: going to play this game, which likely means Jermon Bushrod long,
Speaker 1: long time better he was playing tackle when where had
Speaker 1: that game? Was him? Yeah, he's still playing. He's been
Speaker 1: around for a minute. Um. But so this offensive line
Speaker 1: is fantastic. They are leading the league in sacks allowed
Speaker 1: eleven by the way, the Cowboys are dead last with
Speaker 1: thirty eight. Just to I mean, hey, the offensive line's
Speaker 1: playing better. But even in a game like last week,
Speaker 1: whether you thought they played pretty well, they gave him
Speaker 1: four sacks, absolutely eleven sacks. And that's the thing that's
Speaker 1: any anytime you play a quarterback like this, like the
Speaker 1: offensive line is obviously great. He gets the ball out
Speaker 1: so fast, like he knows where he wants to go,
Speaker 1: and he made he reads his progressions so quickly. But
Speaker 1: they're dominant in the running game. Obviously, you know, having
Speaker 1: great running backs helps, but you just they they bulldoze guys.
Speaker 1: M So okay, their fifth overall, they're sixth through their
Speaker 1: sixth and passing yards which yeah, Drew Brees is only seventh.
Speaker 1: You know, there's six quarterbacks above him. Like this team
Speaker 1: is not in yards in yards, That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: But I know, I'm just Oh, I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: win the MVP. I think he's playing ahead of everybody
Speaker 1: else this year. Um, but they don't lean on the
Speaker 1: pass the way that they did their sixth and running offense.
Speaker 1: Their first in scoring offense thirty seven point two points
Speaker 1: per game. They've scored at least thirty points in nine
Speaker 1: of their eleven games. They have hit forty points and
Speaker 1: fifty points four or five times. They're seventy three percent
Speaker 1: in the red zone, which is third best in the league.
Speaker 1: They have scored a touchdown on seven of their eleven
Speaker 1: opening possessions this season. I'm just rattling off stuff that
Speaker 1: I thought was impressive. Breeze something something bad, like something
Speaker 1: they're bad at, something that they're bad at. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: not good. They're not gonna get into sixty. They can't
Speaker 1: do it for some reason, sixty is just that boundary.
Speaker 1: Then they can't get selusive like the MVP for Breeze.
Speaker 1: It just does not happened. But I guess, I mean
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't have a they don't have a
Speaker 1: rock steady option at receiver. If you can take Michael
Speaker 1: Thomas away, I was about, okay, if you can take
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, Okay, let me finish. That's I mean, that's
Speaker 1: why they went and tried to get Dez Bryant. They
Speaker 1: have Trey Kwan Smith who's a rookie, Ted Gin has
Speaker 1: been hurt all year. Uh, and then Austin Carr and
Speaker 1: you know, they have all these undrafted guys, but they
Speaker 1: don't have they don't have. And they brought in Brandon Marshall.
Speaker 1: That's worth that's worth remembering. But he hasn't really had
Speaker 1: a chance to do much. Um. But then yes, actually
Speaker 1: the Falcons did it on Thursday night. He at thirty
Speaker 1: eight yards. But what happened with the other guys, Like
Speaker 1: why she asked me to say something good? What do
Speaker 1: you want me to do? I don't know, Hey, we're
Speaker 1: exploring different options. Heibly do. Michael Thomas was held to
Speaker 1: thirty eight yards. He's only had two games this season
Speaker 1: where he was held to less than sixty nine yards,
Speaker 1: and he has never had back to back quote unquote
Speaker 1: bad games. On top of that, Alvin Kamara is not
Speaker 1: technically a receiver, but he's got more receptions and more
Speaker 1: receiving yards than any wide receiver on this team that
Speaker 1: hasn't been there all ye. Factor that in with his
Speaker 1: Oakland games too, He's only got forty four catches. He
Speaker 1: wasn't catching balls. Okay, Alvin Kamara's got fifty seven catch.
Speaker 1: Put that against what Amari's projection would be if he
Speaker 1: would have been doing this all season. Ever, makes you
Speaker 1: feel better? I think I think Kamara was going to
Speaker 1: get like a hundred catches, right, He's he's not quite
Speaker 1: on that pace, but he's on fifty seven catch with
Speaker 1: five to play. I mean he's gonna come close. He's
Speaker 1: eighty last year. I mean he's huge, Like as you
Speaker 1: do you ever remember running back getting one hundred catches
Speaker 1: in a season? Larry Centers that also had rush a
Speaker 1: lot of rushing yards. Oh no, I think Ladinian maybe
Speaker 1: had a hundred maybe it seems a lot. Reggie Bush
Speaker 1: came close a couple of times when he was with
Speaker 1: the Saints too, they that primarily was a receiver. Like
Speaker 1: the way they used him, Kamara is probably I mean,
Speaker 1: Kamara does way more. Damn it well, actually that is
Speaker 1: maybe the biggest misconception. Like again, okay, I grew up
Speaker 1: a Saints fan. I have not had a ton of
Speaker 1: time to watch the Saints over the last year's. Like
Speaker 1: I think of Kamara as Reggie Bush, like he's this
Speaker 1: gap back. He's not. No, he's not. He's runs between
Speaker 1: the tackles and does it well, yes, very well. He
Speaker 1: is so much better than I gave him credit for
Speaker 1: going into watching this team. He is a one cut
Speaker 1: and go guy, like it seems like. And again to
Speaker 1: the credit of that offensive line. He is to the
Speaker 1: second level in the blink of an eye. But you
Speaker 1: loved him coming out of college. I did. But it's
Speaker 1: still fascinating. I mean he was he had that scatback
Speaker 1: what's the word, I'm the lab reputation. Yeah, he had.
Speaker 1: You know, he came out of Tennessee with like six
Speaker 1: hundred career rushing yards and more receiving yards. You know.
Speaker 1: But he is better than he gets credit. Forward between
Speaker 1: the tackles. They obviously have Ingram too. The big thing
Speaker 1: that's honestly, it pisces me off watching the Saints because
Speaker 1: it's what I want to see the Cowboys do. And
Speaker 1: obviously the Saints have better they just have better weapons,
Speaker 1: like Michael Thomas. He's just as good as Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: in my opinion. Obviously, the running backs are freaky, and
Speaker 1: I know Zeke is great too, but they use misdirection.
Speaker 1: So I'm so envious of the way they do it
Speaker 1: because just like what I wanted to see from Tavon
Speaker 1: Austin going into this season, they motioned somebody on every play.
Speaker 1: They'll you know, they'll have Ingram and Kamara in the
Speaker 1: game together and they'll motion Kamara in from the slot
Speaker 1: and fake the jets weep and hand it to Ingram
Speaker 1: up the middle, or they'll give the jet sweep, or
Speaker 1: they'll fake they'll fake a fullback dive and toss it
Speaker 1: out wide to their running back, or they'll motion a
Speaker 1: wide receiver across the formation just to make the linebackers hesitate.
Speaker 1: They do it pretty much every time they snap the ball.
Speaker 1: I watched all of one game and part of another three,
Speaker 1: and they did it far, far, far more often than
Speaker 1: they didn't. And so you combine that with the power
Speaker 1: of their offensive line and the respect you have to
Speaker 1: give you the quarterback. It defenses don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: They like they head sitate, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: somebody's six yards thou field. So that's the thing that
Speaker 1: scares me the most. Play Actually, that's like the key
Speaker 1: to success right there. How you're able to come up
Speaker 1: with different kinds of plays and ways to deceive your
Speaker 1: opposing defense. And to me, again, like you said something
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys are obviously lacking, and to me personally,
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys have enough talent on the roster
Speaker 1: in the offense to be able even with Dak being
Speaker 1: Dak and what he's done so far, I think they
Speaker 1: would be able to do that have if they had
Speaker 1: better play calling. You know, that's a good point, especially
Speaker 1: when even talking about the Saints. And this may go
Speaker 1: back a little farther than some of our listeners were
Speaker 1: watching football, But Drew Brees when he was with the
Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers, he wasn't a great quarterback. He was
Speaker 1: a good quarterback, he wasn't a great quarterback when you
Speaker 1: paired him up with Sean Payton in New Orleans. That's
Speaker 1: when Drew Brees became the Drew Brees that we all
Speaker 1: know and love today. Right, That's when he became that
Speaker 1: great quarterback that's up there in the top echelon of
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in NFL history. And I would make the argument
Speaker 1: that if you never would have paired him with a
Speaker 1: guy that has the offensive mind and capability of Sean Payton,
Speaker 1: he may have never realized that. I am a big
Speaker 1: believer in all these guys in the NFL have talent.
Speaker 1: What differentiates the guys have become great from the guys
Speaker 1: that are just good is not only their talent and
Speaker 1: their work ethic, but also the coach knows how to
Speaker 1: give them the right platform for their talents to shine.
Speaker 1: And I think that makes all the difference For a
Speaker 1: guy like Drew Brees. I mean, there were like he
Speaker 1: didn't have. He wasn't a quarterback that was considered to
Speaker 1: have great arm talent when he left San Diego. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was coming off a shoulder injury and that was
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why teams weren't why they let
Speaker 1: him go. Miami wasn't willing to sign him and San Diego.
Speaker 1: I have six years. He was drafted in O one
Speaker 1: and left and No. Five, so he was there for
Speaker 1: his rookie contract based So I mean, it's just to me,
Speaker 1: it's one of those situations where that if you need,
Speaker 1: if you want to look no farther than that situation
Speaker 1: to see how much a coach and what a coach
Speaker 1: does with a player makes a difference. Look at Drew Brees.
Speaker 1: I think it's a great example of it. And Belichick
Speaker 1: and Brady I'm sure, absolutely absolutely, I yeah, but also
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, I mean, also Breeze and Peyton, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean it goes hand in hand, that's my point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it goes for both. Yeah. I don't think he's a
Speaker 1: great coach because he's had him, you know, right, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't think he could just go anywhere and be
Speaker 1: just as good. So, but it's appairing. It's a good
Speaker 1: it's just a good pairing. Right, does Montana become great
Speaker 1: without Rice? And does right Rice become great without Montana? People?
Speaker 1: Rice is great with Rice, was great with Steve Young,
Speaker 1: Rice was great with Rich Cannon. Rice was great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Rice was greatly and was great with He made the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl was forty. Yeah, pretty good. You know what?
Speaker 1: Real quick? You said one hundred catches? Yea, lt had
Speaker 1: one hundred catches in two thousand and three for seven
Speaker 1: hundred yards, and he just had sixteen hundred yards rushing
Speaker 1: on offensive and did not make the Pro Bowl? How
Speaker 1: did he not? Me? I don't know. I'm not looking
Speaker 1: that up, but I'm just saying three didn't make the
Speaker 1: Pro Bow. So Priest Holmes was there? No, you had
Speaker 1: one hundred priests. Well I'm saying I'm saying Priest Holmes
Speaker 1: was in the Pro Bowl. I'm not twenty three hundred yards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like when Priest was doing crazy stuff for Cannon. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I still I'm like who, I'm still like, who else
Speaker 1: would Herds Martin? I don't even know Jerome Battest. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine any of them would have had a season
Speaker 1: better than that. Maybe it's just an error from pro
Speaker 1: and I bet twenty touchdowns combined touchdown? Maybe back then
Speaker 1: they cared for a different thing on each team. Apparently,
Speaker 1: Really you're looking at three Pro Bowl so as Priest
Speaker 1: Holmes in the AFC and the NFC was Deuce McAllister,
Speaker 1: Let's go dude, how do you only have one Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl on or one running back on your probrale and reserves?
Speaker 1: I don't know if they huh so so he maybe
Speaker 1: he made as a reserve that year. It just says
Speaker 1: has a little astick if you made the Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: and he didn't. He didn't make it that year, that
Speaker 1: sounds like an all Pro kind of season running back
Speaker 1: with a hundred freaking catches, I don't see. Deserves were
Speaker 1: Marshall Falk and Michael Bennett and the AFC. The reserves
Speaker 1: were Ricky Williams with Danny and Thomason and Jason. So
Speaker 1: he did make it as Okay, that's still crazy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be crazy if he didn't make it feel
Speaker 1: better now I don't. I don't listen to talking cowboys,
Speaker 1: but I bet if I, but you should. Why not
Speaker 1: listening to all them? As I'm busy, I got I'm
Speaker 1: the listeners absolutely shore sitting next you sit in between
Speaker 1: a triangle of Rob Mickey. I know I get enough
Speaker 1: talking talking cowboys all day for if I didn't. If
Speaker 1: I did listen to talking cowboys, I bet I would
Speaker 1: hear stuff about how the Saints get going vertical by
Speaker 1: a get going horizontal like they love, you know, Kamara
Speaker 1: on the jet sweep, Kamara on the toss sweep Ingram
Speaker 1: does it too. But the thing that's I think that
Speaker 1: actually works out really well for the Cowboys because they
Speaker 1: have sideline to sideline speed. Obviously, Jalen and vander Esh
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence is great against the run. These cornerbacks are
Speaker 1: willing to come up and tackle. Byron and Cheeto probably
Speaker 1: didn't get enough credit for their work doing that against
Speaker 1: Washington the other day. The thing that scares me um,
Speaker 1: I think Drew Brees is going to just attack the
Speaker 1: middle of the field against this team. Like he's got
Speaker 1: two tight ends. He trusts Dan Arnold and Ben Watson.
Speaker 1: He's obviously Drew Brees, so he's not afraid to throw anywhere.
Speaker 1: Mike Thomas can play in the slot, does a lot
Speaker 1: of his work, you know, coming you know, cutbacks and
Speaker 1: out routes from the middle of the field, and I
Speaker 1: think they've played well. But Jeff Heath and Nixavier Woods
Speaker 1: are not impervious to these types of things, and I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm worried that that's where they're going to try
Speaker 1: to do their damage because you have running backs and
Speaker 1: tight ends, and then a receiver who can play in
Speaker 1: the slot, all of whom are comfortable doing that, and
Speaker 1: a quarterback who's not afraid to make a single throw.
Speaker 1: And I just think that could be problematic for them
Speaker 1: and something that I would watch for. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: the secondary Cowboys secondary, I think they're in position a lot.
Speaker 1: I don't think they get interceptions as much as they
Speaker 1: probably should. And I think that a quarterback like this
Speaker 1: is a quarterback that can be dangerous for them because
Speaker 1: he can throw it to tight windows. He can throw
Speaker 1: to guys who aren't necessarily open, but he'll put it
Speaker 1: in a place where they can get it. And I
Speaker 1: think that and that's I mean, that's not just this
Speaker 1: second day, that's every secondary. That makes it extremely difficult
Speaker 1: because now even when you're in good coverage, you can
Speaker 1: still get a completion. He made a throw on Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: against the Falcons. It was actually incomplete, but it just
Speaker 1: dropped my jaw because he sent the tight end. Dan
Speaker 1: Arnold went down the seam and Drew was looking at
Speaker 1: Thomas all the way left and then at the last
Speaker 1: minute jerked his head all the way across the field.
Speaker 1: Is perfect coverage, like there's no room whatsoever, and he
Speaker 1: threw it anyway and put it right on the dude's
Speaker 1: helmet and the falcons dB made a great play and
Speaker 1: batted it away. But like just the audacity and it's
Speaker 1: not audacity though, because he knows he can do it,
Speaker 1: And I just how there you? I mean, it was
Speaker 1: so good. He's so good. There's like three quarterbacks. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks who can make that throw, but
Speaker 1: not very many that have the confidence to do it
Speaker 1: and the skill to reliably hit it. It's scary, and
Speaker 1: I just it's something I mean, you know, between the
Speaker 1: linebackers and the safeties. I just think that they you know,
Speaker 1: we saw it happened with Vernon Dave last week. A
Speaker 1: lesser quarterback took advantage of it. And I just think,
Speaker 1: I think Drew, I think there will be plays to
Speaker 1: be made over the middle of the field for these guys.
Speaker 1: I was looking at something. I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 1: the best defense that the Saints have played against this season.
Speaker 1: The Ravens the Browns actually the only two teams in
Speaker 1: the league that have held them under thirty rights. Those
Speaker 1: are two probably the two best defenses that they've played,
Speaker 1: and both of them played them to a very close game.
Speaker 1: If you look at it, the Browns lost twenty one eighteen.
Speaker 1: The Ravens lost twenty four twenty three. So defense factors
Speaker 1: in here. Cowboys can play a good game on defense.
Speaker 1: It can slow this offense down some you have to
Speaker 1: score and match, but but that does that is one
Speaker 1: of the positive things that maybe you can take out
Speaker 1: of this, right And Drew Brees doesn't throw a lot
Speaker 1: of picks, but they fumble the ball a decent amount,
Speaker 1: it seems. I mean, Ingram's had fumble problems his whole career,
Speaker 1: and with the amount of action, I guess you would say,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a like Drew Brees fumbled it while
Speaker 1: he was trying to pitch it out, And so I
Speaker 1: wonder if maybe they can take advantage of that. Maybe
Speaker 1: the Saints will put the ball on the turf a
Speaker 1: couple of times. All right, let's take our final break,
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Speaker 1: So we talked about all the greatness that the Saints
Speaker 1: have in their offense, but the Cowboys defense doesn't really
Speaker 1: stay behind. I mean, they've been doing a pretty good job.
Speaker 1: They've been very dynamic on the field, and you mentioned
Speaker 1: a few different positions. We talked about safety, but once
Speaker 1: you looks so happy, you talked about safety in the secondary,
Speaker 1: so once you look at it as an overall in general,
Speaker 1: the whole defense as a group, because we've seen how
Speaker 1: each position has been able to help the other once
Speaker 1: you combine that, do you think that the Cowboys can
Speaker 1: actually stop them somehow in a way like slow them
Speaker 1: down a little bit. You're not going to stop them,
Speaker 1: but slow them now a little bit. That is that
Speaker 1: has to be the hope. And the Cowboys they're I mean,
Speaker 1: you know they're not They're not this juggerna when it
Speaker 1: comes to, you know, just completely shutting down the opposition.
Speaker 1: But they've been great in the red zone. They've been
Speaker 1: great at not allowing scores. They're only given up nineteen
Speaker 1: point four, which, as Nick just reminded us, that's half
Speaker 1: of what the Saints are scoring. So something's got to give.
Speaker 1: I mean, one of those is a lot this week.
Speaker 1: This week, h even you know, against the Redskins, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys they only gave up they gave up two long
Speaker 1: scoring drives. The others, you know, one started on their
Speaker 1: twenty five because of a return, the other started at
Speaker 1: like midfield. So they've been fantastic at turning scoring opportunities
Speaker 1: into field goals or takeaways. And they're they're just they're
Speaker 1: going to have to be on the Screws this week,
Speaker 1: and that's it's it's fascinating because I don't have a
Speaker 1: great answer for you because we've seen them do it
Speaker 1: consistently throughout the year, not necessarily against an offense that's good.
Speaker 1: And that's just that's gonna I really think that's gonna
Speaker 1: be the story of the game because the Cowboys aren't
Speaker 1: winning a shootout. They're not gonna win a fifty one
Speaker 1: to forty eight game. They're just not, I don't think.
Speaker 1: But they could win a you know, they could win
Speaker 1: a twenty seven to twenty four game. Maybe. Honestly, both
Speaker 1: these defenses are too good for that. And that's not
Speaker 1: I mean, Cowboys defenses play well, but New Orleans has
Speaker 1: a good defense too. I think both of them are
Speaker 1: too good for this to be just a you know,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna line up that basically that Kansas City
Speaker 1: and in Los Angeles game a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be that. It can't be that. These
Speaker 1: defenses I think are too good for that. That's well,
Speaker 1: that's what's curious to me is I always think about
Speaker 1: the Houston game because it's really it's the most glaring
Speaker 1: example of the defense buckling down, because if they give
Speaker 1: up touchdowns on even like two of those drives, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Texans have thirty points instead of nineteen.
Speaker 1: You know that's going to be the test, because if
Speaker 1: the Saints get down there and they're scoring touchdowns everything,
Speaker 1: you know, if they're if they go three for three
Speaker 1: in the red zone, they're probably gonna score thirty four
Speaker 1: or thirty eight points and win somewhat comfortably. If you
Speaker 1: can turn a few of those into field goals. Now
Speaker 1: you've push this or turn whatever. Now you're talking about
Speaker 1: them scoring in the mid to high twenties, and that's
Speaker 1: much more manageable. Well, that's the story that leads to
Speaker 1: this question which relates to this topic, and I pull
Speaker 1: these from Twitter. We've seen obviously the Saints they've been
Speaker 1: able to score over thirty points easily. Now the Cowboys
Speaker 1: they've struggled scoring anything passed twenty points. So let's say
Speaker 1: the defense, the Cowboys defense is able to hold them
Speaker 1: lower than thirty points. Do you think the Cowboys offense
Speaker 1: with that is able to score enough in order to
Speaker 1: win a game. I think they're able to score enough. Yes,
Speaker 1: I do said this a lot. I do think that
Speaker 1: games kind of, you know, take a life of their
Speaker 1: own and they can be kind of these shootout type
Speaker 1: of games. Doesn't have to be up in the forties
Speaker 1: or fifties, but I think if if you get a
Speaker 1: lot of possessions going, yes, I think the Cowboys can do.
Speaker 1: That's the only way that they're really going to win,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is is if to limit the Saints
Speaker 1: under thirty points, which you know it doesn't happen often,
Speaker 1: but I think that they're gonna have to play their
Speaker 1: style of football, and their style football is going to
Speaker 1: be running it, getting first downs. Uh, you know, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of third and shorts. They're gonna
Speaker 1: have to go for it a lot. I think that
Speaker 1: you'll see more of an aggressive play caller, whoever that is. UM.
Speaker 1: I think that you'll you'll see UM. I definitely think
Speaker 1: you'll see the Cowboys have it. They can't punt, they
Speaker 1: can't they can't kick long field goals. They don't trust
Speaker 1: their kicker to kick long field goals. So I think
Speaker 1: this is gonna be one of those games where you're
Speaker 1: gonna see a little bit more risk taking by the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: which just to your point they I mean, you're absolutely right,
Speaker 1: they have struggled to score. But in this during this
Speaker 1: three game winning stream, how much you bought it, they're
Speaker 1: averaging twenty seven points a game. Yeah, I have no
Speaker 1: idea how much I buy it. I think that. I mean,
Speaker 1: they had thirty one last week and they looked like
Speaker 1: that looked like the offense from the years passed when
Speaker 1: this offense could put up not I mean, they were
Speaker 1: getting into the thirties regularly back then because they had
Speaker 1: a receiving threat that could take at the distance and
Speaker 1: they had the running game going. If it's that team,
Speaker 1: maybe they can get into a game where I don't
Speaker 1: think they I still don't think they can get into
Speaker 1: that forty fifty point range and expect to win against
Speaker 1: this team. But I do think that maybe they can
Speaker 1: get into that thirty one thirty four range and have
Speaker 1: an opportunity. But they like on the web side of
Speaker 1: what you just said about the Saints and the red zone,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys get down there, they cannot do anything where
Speaker 1: they're kicking a field goal like first and goal in
Speaker 1: the four and they end up kicking the field goal
Speaker 1: like that can't happen, Like I think you almost have
Speaker 1: to be in four down territory when you get down
Speaker 1: to that point in the game. Scott Nahan was asked
Speaker 1: yesterday why not just run the ball three times on
Speaker 1: a row with Zeke and and he said, because they
Speaker 1: think that's what we're going to do pretty much, which
Speaker 1: is what we've always said that we think that he
Speaker 1: goes that sounds that's what the you know, the run
Speaker 1: fronts are not favorable. You're gonna have to kind of
Speaker 1: grind through it. And we see someone on one matchups
Speaker 1: on the outside, which is what they saw with Beasley
Speaker 1: who dropped the ball, and what they saw with Noah
Speaker 1: Brown who didn't get a good pass and he might
Speaker 1: have I don't know if he would have caught it
Speaker 1: or not. Probably it's that frustrating for you, Derek. It's
Speaker 1: a little frustrating. It is it is, because it's like
Speaker 1: just because they know you're gonna do it, doesn't mean
Speaker 1: it's still not a good option. And what I would
Speaker 1: say is that's again where you want to talk about
Speaker 1: where I think they can you know, at some point
Speaker 1: maybe they can use a gadget player to be able
Speaker 1: to help them. That's where it can help you a
Speaker 1: little bit is that now you give them a little
Speaker 1: bit something more to think about. I do like the
Speaker 1: idea of spreading the team out because they can't give
Speaker 1: you that unfavorable matchup. If you spread them out, it's
Speaker 1: very hard for them to keep so many guys in
Speaker 1: there to where you cannot run the ball, but especially
Speaker 1: if you can run the ball with either Dak or
Speaker 1: z Okay, let me let me ask you that though
Speaker 1: you spread them out and thinking, all right, I've spread
Speaker 1: you out, but they didn't really go out there. Okay,
Speaker 1: then that means that means I got a one on
Speaker 1: one matchup that I feel like I can win. That's
Speaker 1: not what they do, but that's what they did against
Speaker 1: the Falcons. And like Cole Beasley dropped it, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: again I'll take that. I'll still do that play. If
Speaker 1: you give me that matchup, I'll do that play, and
Speaker 1: I guarantee he'll catch it not out often enough or
Speaker 1: Noah Brown wide open. I mean, you're just saying like,
Speaker 1: I don't little less confident in him. But but I know,
Speaker 1: But in that situation, if I'm gonna get Cole matched
Speaker 1: up on the outside one on one and he has
Speaker 1: the ability to use his athleticism to get open and
Speaker 1: catch the ball. I can trust that. That's something I
Speaker 1: can trust. That's better than me getting into a situation
Speaker 1: where I've got thirteen personnel in the field and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to run. Like yeah, I get that. You've basically
Speaker 1: allowed them to make it to where running is very difficult,
Speaker 1: you know, Derek agitated. I agree with you, and I
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. It's just gets frustrating a little
Speaker 1: bit to me. I the Saints do that type of
Speaker 1: stuff really well, and it's frustrating to watch. But what
Speaker 1: do you mean do what kind of spread it out
Speaker 1: and miss missdirection and all that. They put a quarterback
Speaker 1: into play receiver, they do it. They He's got a
Speaker 1: gadget stuff going on over there. He's got a bigger
Speaker 1: role than I really mentioned him. I'm surprised you didn't
Speaker 1: mention Taysom Hill. He's got a much bigger role than
Speaker 1: I gave him credit for. He's played one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty snaps this year. He's carried the ball thirty two times.
Speaker 1: He's averaging five yards per carry when he does it.
Speaker 1: Is he gonna be their next quarterback? I doubt it.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be their next coach. I'm saying, uncomfortable side.
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about that today. No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Sean Payton. I'm talking about like he's
Speaker 1: not gonna be there forever, and he's probably gonna be
Speaker 1: there as long as Drew Brees is gonna be there.
Speaker 1: Don't you think I don't know. I'll talk about it.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that later. Taysom Hill offseason conversation will
Speaker 1: probably touch the ball more than Cooper Rush three to
Speaker 1: five times this game. Yeah, I could see that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right. I have a one last question for you guys.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have one three game in a row. If
Speaker 1: they were to lose this game, how much can a
Speaker 1: loss against a team like this disrupt the momentum that
Speaker 1: they've gained those far. It's the classic, David, It's the
Speaker 1: classic thing where you thank you. It's a classic thing.
Speaker 1: You can't let the same team beat you twice. But like,
Speaker 1: this game doesn't matter as much as the Eagles game.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I know that, I know that they all matter,
Speaker 1: but you just got I mean, Nick has been saying
Speaker 1: that for a month. You just beat the Eagles, and
Speaker 1: that's I hope. I think this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: great game. But if the Saints win comfortably, you can't.
Speaker 1: You just gotta flush it exact and focus on the division. Oh,
Speaker 1: this game definitely has a feel for some like moral victory.
Speaker 1: Do it if you if you get beat like twenty eight,
Speaker 1: twenty four or something like that, as long as the
Speaker 1: head coach and or anybody didn't like, you know, mismanage
Speaker 1: the game. But if you if you do something where
Speaker 1: it's like you can come out of feeling good, you
Speaker 1: can you be like all right. I mean, the thing
Speaker 1: about it was is that you had to win. They've
Speaker 1: they've helped themselves. They've got a little bit of cushion.
Speaker 1: Even though it's six and five, you don't feel like
Speaker 1: there's cushion, but you still feel like, Okay, you did
Speaker 1: enough where if you do lose a game here, you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta beat Philly, You gotta beat the Bucks and
Speaker 1: keep it. Somebody one of these two teams that's trailing
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the Standings is gonna lose on Monday night.
Speaker 1: They have to because they play each other. So that's
Speaker 1: I don't this this game is not the end goal.
Speaker 1: I mean it would be amazing if they won, and
Speaker 1: I think they can win. Not trying to suggest that,
Speaker 1: I just don't think they should even play it but
Speaker 1: the Eagles. But this is not I guess the point
Speaker 1: of it is. I don't think everybody should go into
Speaker 1: this game, and I'm talking to fans right now, I
Speaker 1: don't think I think it's a mistake to go into
Speaker 1: this game thinking if the Cowboys lose, everything is lost.
Speaker 1: It is not like this is lost. This game. Really
Speaker 1: it will help you to win. But if you lose it,
Speaker 1: everything's still right in front of you. It still got
Speaker 1: to go beat Philadelphia. It would be so enormous If
Speaker 1: they did win, though it would be out, it gives
Speaker 1: them that much more room for error. I really think
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I think nine wins is going
Speaker 1: to be enough to get into the playoffs in this division. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if you can double up, like if you can
Speaker 1: get this win and then also be Philadelphia, you might
Speaker 1: actually be wrapping up before you get to week seventeen.
Speaker 1: You may be wrapping up this division if you can
Speaker 1: get those If you if you said indicator that that's
Speaker 1: not going to happen, because that never happens for the cowls.
Speaker 1: There have been times in the last three or four
Speaker 1: years when the Cowboys get on these kinds of roles.
Speaker 1: That was when they were ten and one, right, But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like what we what we're seeing right
Speaker 1: now suggests that Amari Cooper and what they did on
Speaker 1: the offensive line have made them a different team than
Speaker 1: what we saw at the beginning of the year. Now,
Speaker 1: the question is are they good enough to where you
Speaker 1: can compare them to those teams or is it just
Speaker 1: better than what they were doing earlier this year, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, still the middle of the road. I said this,
Speaker 1: I know we're running out of time. This this team
Speaker 1: is interesting though, because usually when the Cowboys are good,
Speaker 1: we know by Halloween, you know, like I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't know if this team is good and not to
Speaker 1: find out, yeah we are. Like these next two games,
Speaker 1: I who determined to be continued all right, Tomorrow we're
Speaker 1: gonna dive into the Saints defense and see how that
Speaker 1: matches up against the Cowboys offense. For Derrek Hilton, Meekhiman,
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