1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. It's 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys, 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: I am back on this amazing show. Sorry for those 8 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: of you who are listening in the hate me for 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: whatever reason. What I'm bad? What a passive aggressive intro 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: into the show. Just just a gaze, just engage. But 11 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: in cowboys world, in Garrett's world, today is a Friday, 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: so I wanted to get it and I wanted to 13 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: talk about several guys that showed up on the practice report. 14 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: We don't need to do inactives or any of that today, 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: We'll do that tomorrow. But as far as some of 16 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: the line guy we know, Tyren Smith still hasn't done 17 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: anything as of right now, and from what I heard 18 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones say, it would end up being kind of 19 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: a game day decision again similar to what happened last 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: weekend or last Thursday. But then as far as Zack Martin, 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: and saw Philo again. Guys that are a key to 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: the offensive line, they've been on a limited basis. Were 23 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: they doing some things today as well? Limited? Yeah, it's 24 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: the it's the same. It's the routine that we always 25 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: talk about, which is, you know, if you're doing something 26 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: by Thursday heading into Friday, it's it's probably a pretty 27 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: good sign that you're going to play, especially the more 28 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: veteran you are. Zach and Xavier have been in uniform 29 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: the last two days. I feel really good about them practicing. 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: Have not seen Tyren Smith since Sunday. Was not there today, 31 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: was not there yesterday. Jerry Jones said, you know, we'll 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: see how he feels on game day, which you know, 33 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: for Jerry Jones to say that much is not a 34 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: good sign. I really a trend toward thinking that Cam 35 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: Fleming is going to have to play left tackle in 36 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: this game. And then again, the old line has finally 37 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: started clicking with the changes in the coaching and you know, 38 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: adding so a field on there. It's been flowing pretty 39 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: good and doing their job. Now when you look at 40 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: this report, although it's nothing crazy, but when you see 41 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: certain guys being limited and stuff like that, how alarming 42 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: does this start becoming to an area that is just 43 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: now finally starting to click. Well, they have to be 44 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: perfect on offense to win this game. They can't like 45 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: have any you can't get down in the red zone 46 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: and then they take a sack or a penalty and 47 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: then kick a field goal. Field goals aren't going to 48 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: win this game. So you know, you you have to 49 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: be perfect, I think, to win. And then you have 50 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: to get at least thirty points to win the game. 51 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: And so therefore, in my opinion, so therefore, all the 52 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: injuries situations, even if it's one or two plays, they 53 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: could be the ones that affect them from stalling a drive. 54 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: And so you know, it's in any other situation you think, yeah, 55 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: I think they could manage it. And you're gonna play Washington, 56 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: I think they could manage it. But against New Orleans 57 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: that they just can't. They have no room for error. Yeah, 58 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: and tape on Austin is still a question mark. And 59 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: it came it came to mind, and I laughed because 60 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: at the game, you know, he got on top of 61 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: the bench and it's like moving around and dancing around, 62 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: and it reminded me of what Nick has been saying 63 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: from practice. Trying to take a video today and I 64 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: almost had my phone taken from me, so it didn't work. Yeah. No, 65 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: they take that stuff pretty seriously, so I try to 66 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: take but it would have been a great video. He 67 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: is a dancing fool. It was. He looks ready to go. 68 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: I don't think he plays this week. I think he 69 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: plays against the I was about to say the Giants, 70 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: because it seems like every time, well no, it seems 71 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: like every time they come back from from the Thanksgiving 72 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: break it's always at the Giants, But that's not true. 73 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: This year, it's Philly. I think he plays for Philly. 74 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: You get along. I mean it's basically a half bye week, 75 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: so I would make sense him for December. That's that's 76 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: pretty good. I'd love to see him now with a 77 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: Marie Cooper and what they got going on offense. I 78 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: think he'll be a great addition if they can use 79 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: him right. How do you think they would utilize him? Well, 80 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: the same, honestly, the same way that I've been wanting 81 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: them to use him all season, which is he's your 82 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: gadget player, and now he can be your legitimate gadget 83 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: player because you've got a wide receiver threat, Like you 84 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: got a legitimate threat out there that can take it 85 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: to the house on any given play. You've got a 86 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: running back that can take to the house on any 87 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: given play. Now you have a gadget player that can 88 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: also take it to the house on any given play. 89 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: Use him as a gadget player, use him underneath, use 90 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: him on in the rounds, like, use him on stuff 91 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: that just throws the defense off and makes him think 92 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: about one more thing that they didn't have to think 93 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: about before, which just creates more opportunity to get one 94 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: on one situations. With Zeke in space and with a 95 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: Mariy Cooper in space, I just love everything about that. 96 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: If they use him the right way, I want that desperately. 97 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: I have the next to no faith that it will happen. Well, 98 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: I will say this, and maybe it's just a function 99 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: of them winning, but it does seem and feel to 100 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: me like off offensively, they've done some things a little 101 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: bit different since they've added Amari Cooper into the mix. 102 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: So I'm honest, I'm interested to see how that looks 103 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: with Amari Cooper in the mix, how that looks now 104 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: when you add him back in, because I do think 105 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: they're changing up some things offensively on and just strategically 106 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: the kinds of things they're doing. Yeah, we'll see, Okay, 107 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: we'll see. Hopefully it works out and he's able to 108 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: bring up some actions that we haven't seen before. I 109 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: would think Connor Williams will be your swing tackle now. 110 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: I mean he left tackle right. It's a good point, 111 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: you know. I mean if if Tyron, well, Tyron might 112 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: be he might be active in this game the same 113 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: way he was active last week, which you know it could, 114 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: but that was a break glass in case of emergency situation. 115 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: So because it was Redman out yet Redman had a 116 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: concussion so he was out. He will be I mean 117 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: he'll be available for this though. So because he will 118 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: be back and being your guards center backup, I think 119 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: I think Connor Williams has to be your tackle backup, 120 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: unless you think on the practice Poe um crap I 121 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: left my roster upstairs. Uh, there's definitely they're campos is 122 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: he's still here and yeah, no, I think you'd probably 123 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: stay with what you got. I do think by Hooker, 124 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: by Crook, I think an offensive lineman is probably an 125 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: active this week, though, but I don't like I don't 126 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: like the idea. It's kind to me. I don't know 127 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: that statement. I don't like the idea of Tyrone being 128 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: active and not starting and being your backup, because because 129 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: of how good a player he is, if he's not starting, 130 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: that means he's really bad off. That's I don't like 131 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: putting him in in a in a pinch situation with 132 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: him really bad. I would I mean, if he can't play, 133 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: either he's playing or not. In my opinion, if he 134 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: can't play, I would make said about DeMarcus ware back 135 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: in oh nine. You know, either's playing or he's not, 136 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: and he's the defensive player of the week. Yeah, just 137 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: kind of bring a little bit different though a little 138 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: a little different because with him you can at least 139 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: rotate him into a play here, play there, your tackle. 140 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: He's gonna be out there, and that's well. They're both 141 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: were laying down the ground, not moving. It's it's an 142 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: interesting parallel. It's an interesting parallel just in the sense 143 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: that they are both in a class of player that 144 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: they don't need a practice rep to go out there 145 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: agree with that game, which is why if it was 146 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: anybody else, there's maybe there's probably five players on this 147 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: team who fit into that category where if it was 148 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: anybody else, I'd be like, he's down, but you really 149 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: you can't rule him out until the inactives come out 150 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: ninety minutes prior to kick right, I'm agreeing with all that. 151 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is if they make the determination, as 152 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: they did last week, that he's so bad off right 153 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: that he cannot start and play, then don't put him 154 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: in there at all. Don't because he's such a warrior. 155 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: If he can't play at all, then putting him out there, 156 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: if you get in a pinch, ain't gonna be good 157 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: because he can't play. Literally, he cannot play. I agree 158 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: with you, and I kind of think that they know 159 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: that too. That's I mean, they only they needed a 160 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: left tackle for one play last week when Fleming lost 161 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: his shoe, and they didn't put him in the US 162 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: Connors exactly right. It's like, well, great glass in case 163 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: of emergency, like clearly not It clearly means he's not 164 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: ready or it wasn't ready to go right, glass in 165 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: case of emergency, And they got the little hatchet they 166 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: usually have in there, but it doesn't have a thing 167 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: on the top of it. It's just the wooden stick, 168 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: like it's not gonna do any good, bro, So we'll 169 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: see that's you know, I'm gonna it's definitely in a 170 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: situation where you know, we'll get to the game early 171 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: and have our binoculars on what Tyrants had before the 172 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: game and all that good type of stuff. That's really interesting. Now, 173 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: obviously we've seen the struggles that Connor has had at 174 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: the guard position, just you know, room for improvement and 175 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: growth that needs to happen. If that was to happen, 176 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: where you now move him at Tyrant's position as a tackle, 177 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: which is a position where we've seen in the past 178 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: how much it affected Dik Prescott and what they were 179 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: doing when it's not well played chess? Right, everyone remembers chess. 180 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: So who's going to be here? If Connor was to 181 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: be moved there, how much do you think he would 182 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: struggle there? And how much? I mean, yeah, well, I 183 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 1: remember he'd be moved for as a backup. I mean 184 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: well yeah yeah, but if he needed yeah, he had 185 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: to come in. I mean. The problem is is this 186 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: team doesn't have a lot of tight end help that 187 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: can that can help Chip, you know, and you'd have 188 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: to leave some running backs, and it would change how 189 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: you do you have to give help, and it would 190 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: change how you want to play your offense. Um, I 191 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: mean who do they have on that right side over there? 192 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: I mean who Jordan Camp Camp? Jordan? Yeah, Yeah, he's 193 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, he's a pretty good player. So yeah, 194 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: I think I think it would be the thing about 195 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: Connor Williams is that he is He's a fighter. I 196 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: mean he will he will go in there and scrap, 197 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: and I think he would be Okay, I don't think 198 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: he would be that great, but I think he would 199 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: be better than than cha. Yeah, he's got more fighting 200 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: than than Chatz. I mean, he just does. I mean 201 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: we saw that since the day he got here, and 202 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: I think wherever they end up putting him, he will 203 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: be a good player. This week, you expect that they'll 204 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: probably practice him a tackle. Yeah, that'd be my expectation, right, yep, 205 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: if they don't think Tyrn can go, especially even if 206 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: they did, I think Tyron could go. My point is 207 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: there's a better chance that he's going to have to 208 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: get in the game this week at tackle there than 209 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: it is a guard. Right. I'd like to see him 210 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: get some reps there. I bet he's doing that, especially 211 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: if you got Redman back, you just let Redman be 212 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: your your swing center of guard. Yeah, and look at 213 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: him as a swing tackle at least for this week, 214 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: until you get to a point where you feel more 215 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: comfortable with where Tyron is from a health standpoint. I 216 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: think that's probably a better option, right, all right, it 217 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: is a good point from you. A g that right 218 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: as the which I mean, you know, Fleming played last 219 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: week and they were all right, but you know the 220 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: line was kind of rounding into a better forum, and 221 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: now you're obviously taking all these contingency plans. It's kind 222 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: of unfortunate. Yeah, let's go ahead and take an early 223 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: break because I don't want to interrupt Dave's awesome report 224 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 1: that he has about the Saints offense. Hopefully he has 225 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: some hope for this one. I hope he's able to 226 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: get it's for the Cowboys. So let's take the early 227 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: break and then we'll get into the offense. 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This 268 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: is the second segment off the break. Um. Yeah, the Saints. 269 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: They're an okay team. They're coming to town tomorrow to 270 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: play against the Cowboys on Thursday. Yeah, all right, they're 271 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: pretty good. They I mean, Nick's right, he could do 272 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: this like we don't need to I don't need to 273 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: do the thing where I talk for like eight minutes. 274 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: This is well. Statistically, they're not the best offense in 275 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: the league, but they might as well be something interesting 276 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: that that I bet fans don't know. And what Brian 277 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: said when he was watching him was that this is 278 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: the best offensive line he's seen all year. They are 279 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: impressive and that shouldn't be surprising. I think Jason Garrett 280 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: basically said this, you know, I mean everybody knows Drew Brees, 281 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: everybody knows what he can do. But much like Tony Romo, 282 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: this team wasn't very good when he was just put 283 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: carrying everything on his back. I mean he was throwing 284 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: for five six thousand yards a year and they were 285 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: winning seven or eight games like three years in a row. 286 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: Like you know, people were talking about firing Sean Payton 287 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. So what do they do. They 288 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: draft Tron Armstead in the I think the third round. 289 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: He developed into a great player. If they spend a 290 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: first round pick on Andrews Pete, who's now their guard. 291 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: They traded Jimmy Graham for Max Unger who's been you know, 292 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: rock Steady center for years. Larry Warford they get from Detroit. 293 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: He's a premium draft pick. And Ryan Ramsack is a 294 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: first round pick at right tackle. So I mean, it's 295 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: not quite the level of resources that the Cowboys have 296 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: sunk into their line, and not much different, not that 297 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: much different at all. And Toronto Armstead is probably not 298 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: going to play this game, which likely means Jermon Bushrod long, 299 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: long time better he was playing tackle when where had 300 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: that game? Was him? Yeah, he's still playing. He's been 301 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: around for a minute. Um. But so this offensive line 302 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: is fantastic. They are leading the league in sacks allowed 303 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: eleven by the way, the Cowboys are dead last with 304 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: thirty eight. Just to I mean, hey, the offensive line's 305 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: playing better. But even in a game like last week, 306 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: whether you thought they played pretty well, they gave him 307 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: four sacks, absolutely eleven sacks. And that's the thing that's 308 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: any anytime you play a quarterback like this, like the 309 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: offensive line is obviously great. He gets the ball out 310 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: so fast, like he knows where he wants to go, 311 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: and he made he reads his progressions so quickly. But 312 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: they're dominant in the running game. Obviously, you know, having 313 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: great running backs helps, but you just they they bulldoze guys. 314 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: M So okay, their fifth overall, they're sixth through their 315 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: sixth and passing yards which yeah, Drew Brees is only seventh. 316 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: You know, there's six quarterbacks above him. Like this team 317 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: is not in yards in yards, That's what I mean. 318 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: But I know, I'm just Oh, I think he's gonna 319 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: win the MVP. I think he's playing ahead of everybody 320 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: else this year. Um, but they don't lean on the 321 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: pass the way that they did their sixth and running offense. 322 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: Their first in scoring offense thirty seven point two points 323 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: per game. They've scored at least thirty points in nine 324 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: of their eleven games. They have hit forty points and 325 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: fifty points four or five times. They're seventy three percent 326 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: in the red zone, which is third best in the league. 327 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: They have scored a touchdown on seven of their eleven 328 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: opening possessions this season. I'm just rattling off stuff that 329 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: I thought was impressive. Breeze something something bad, like something 330 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: they're bad at, something that they're bad at. Yeah, they're 331 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: not good. They're not gonna get into sixty. They can't 332 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: do it for some reason, sixty is just that boundary. 333 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: Then they can't get selusive like the MVP for Breeze. 334 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: It just does not happened. But I guess, I mean 335 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: they don't. They don't have a they don't have a 336 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: rock steady option at receiver. If you can take Michael 337 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: Thomas away, I was about, okay, if you can take 338 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, Okay, let me finish. That's I mean, that's 339 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: why they went and tried to get Dez Bryant. They 340 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: have Trey Kwan Smith who's a rookie, Ted Gin has 341 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: been hurt all year. Uh, and then Austin Carr and 342 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, they have all these undrafted guys, but they 343 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: don't have they don't have. And they brought in Brandon Marshall. 344 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: That's worth that's worth remembering. But he hasn't really had 345 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: a chance to do much. Um. But then yes, actually 346 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: the Falcons did it on Thursday night. He at thirty 347 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: eight yards. But what happened with the other guys, Like 348 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: why she asked me to say something good? What do 349 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: you want me to do? I don't know, Hey, we're 350 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: exploring different options. Heibly do. Michael Thomas was held to 351 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: thirty eight yards. He's only had two games this season 352 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: where he was held to less than sixty nine yards, 353 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: and he has never had back to back quote unquote 354 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: bad games. On top of that, Alvin Kamara is not 355 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: technically a receiver, but he's got more receptions and more 356 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: receiving yards than any wide receiver on this team that 357 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: hasn't been there all ye. Factor that in with his 358 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: Oakland games too, He's only got forty four catches. He 359 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: wasn't catching balls. Okay, Alvin Kamara's got fifty seven catch. 360 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: Put that against what Amari's projection would be if he 361 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: would have been doing this all season. Ever, makes you 362 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: feel better? I think I think Kamara was going to 363 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: get like a hundred catches, right, He's he's not quite 364 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: on that pace, but he's on fifty seven catch with 365 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: five to play. I mean he's gonna come close. He's 366 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: eighty last year. I mean he's huge, Like as you 367 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: do you ever remember running back getting one hundred catches 368 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: in a season? Larry Centers that also had rush a 369 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: lot of rushing yards. Oh no, I think Ladinian maybe 370 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: had a hundred maybe it seems a lot. Reggie Bush 371 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: came close a couple of times when he was with 372 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 1: the Saints too, they that primarily was a receiver. Like 373 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 1: the way they used him, Kamara is probably I mean, 374 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: Kamara does way more. Damn it well, actually that is 375 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: maybe the biggest misconception. Like again, okay, I grew up 376 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: a Saints fan. I have not had a ton of 377 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: time to watch the Saints over the last year's. Like 378 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: I think of Kamara as Reggie Bush, like he's this 379 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: gap back. He's not. No, he's not. He's runs between 380 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: the tackles and does it well, yes, very well. He 381 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: is so much better than I gave him credit for 382 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: going into watching this team. He is a one cut 383 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: and go guy, like it seems like. And again to 384 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: the credit of that offensive line. He is to the 385 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: second level in the blink of an eye. But you 386 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: loved him coming out of college. I did. But it's 387 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: still fascinating. I mean he was he had that scatback 388 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: what's the word, I'm the lab reputation. Yeah, he had. 389 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: You know, he came out of Tennessee with like six 390 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: hundred career rushing yards and more receiving yards. You know. 391 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: But he is better than he gets credit. Forward between 392 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: the tackles. They obviously have Ingram too. The big thing 393 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: that's honestly, it pisces me off watching the Saints because 394 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: it's what I want to see the Cowboys do. And 395 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: obviously the Saints have better they just have better weapons, 396 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: like Michael Thomas. He's just as good as Amari Cooper 397 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: in my opinion. Obviously, the running backs are freaky, and 398 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: I know Zeke is great too, but they use misdirection. 399 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: So I'm so envious of the way they do it 400 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: because just like what I wanted to see from Tavon 401 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: Austin going into this season, they motioned somebody on every play. 402 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: They'll you know, they'll have Ingram and Kamara in the 403 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: game together and they'll motion Kamara in from the slot 404 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: and fake the jets weep and hand it to Ingram 405 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: up the middle, or they'll give the jet sweep, or 406 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: they'll fake they'll fake a fullback dive and toss it 407 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: out wide to their running back, or they'll motion a 408 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver across the formation just to make the linebackers hesitate. 409 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: They do it pretty much every time they snap the ball. 410 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: I watched all of one game and part of another three, 411 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: and they did it far, far, far more often than 412 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: they didn't. And so you combine that with the power 413 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: of their offensive line and the respect you have to 414 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: give you the quarterback. It defenses don't know what to do. 415 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: They like they head sitate, and all of a sudden, 416 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: somebody's six yards thou field. So that's the thing that 417 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: scares me the most. Play Actually, that's like the key 418 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: to success right there. How you're able to come up 419 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: with different kinds of plays and ways to deceive your 420 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: opposing defense. And to me, again, like you said something 421 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: that the Cowboys are obviously lacking, and to me personally, 422 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys have enough talent on the roster 423 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: in the offense to be able even with Dak being 424 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: Dak and what he's done so far, I think they 425 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: would be able to do that have if they had 426 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: better play calling. You know, that's a good point, especially 427 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: when even talking about the Saints. And this may go 428 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: back a little farther than some of our listeners were 429 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: watching football, But Drew Brees when he was with the 430 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers, he wasn't a great quarterback. He was 431 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: a good quarterback, he wasn't a great quarterback when you 432 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: paired him up with Sean Payton in New Orleans. That's 433 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: when Drew Brees became the Drew Brees that we all 434 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: know and love today. Right, That's when he became that 435 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: great quarterback that's up there in the top echelon of 436 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in NFL history. And I would make the argument 437 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: that if you never would have paired him with a 438 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: guy that has the offensive mind and capability of Sean Payton, 439 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: he may have never realized that. I am a big 440 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: believer in all these guys in the NFL have talent. 441 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: What differentiates the guys have become great from the guys 442 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: that are just good is not only their talent and 443 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: their work ethic, but also the coach knows how to 444 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: give them the right platform for their talents to shine. 445 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: And I think that makes all the difference For a 446 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: guy like Drew Brees. I mean, there were like he 447 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 1: didn't have. He wasn't a quarterback that was considered to 448 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: have great arm talent when he left San Diego. I mean, 449 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: he was coming off a shoulder injury and that was 450 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why teams weren't why they let 451 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: him go. Miami wasn't willing to sign him and San Diego. 452 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: I have six years. He was drafted in O one 453 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: and left and No. Five, so he was there for 454 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: his rookie contract based So I mean, it's just to me, 455 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: it's one of those situations where that if you need, 456 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: if you want to look no farther than that situation 457 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: to see how much a coach and what a coach 458 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: does with a player makes a difference. Look at Drew Brees. 459 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: I think it's a great example of it. And Belichick 460 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: and Brady I'm sure, absolutely absolutely, I yeah, but also 461 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, I mean, also Breeze and Peyton, you know. 462 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean it goes hand in hand, that's my point. Yeah, 463 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: it goes for both. Yeah. I don't think he's a 464 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: great coach because he's had him, you know, right, Um, 465 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he could just go anywhere and be 466 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: just as good. So, but it's appairing. It's a good 467 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: it's just a good pairing. Right, does Montana become great 468 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: without Rice? And does right Rice become great without Montana? People? 469 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: Rice is great with Rice, was great with Steve Young, 470 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: Rice was great with Rich Cannon. Rice was great. Yeah, 471 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: Rice was greatly and was great with He made the 472 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl was forty. Yeah, pretty good. You know what? 473 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: Real quick? You said one hundred catches? Yea, lt had 474 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: one hundred catches in two thousand and three for seven 475 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: hundred yards, and he just had sixteen hundred yards rushing 476 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: on offensive and did not make the Pro Bowl? How 477 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: did he not? Me? I don't know. I'm not looking 478 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: that up, but I'm just saying three didn't make the 479 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: Pro Bow. So Priest Holmes was there? No, you had 480 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: one hundred priests. Well I'm saying I'm saying Priest Holmes 481 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: was in the Pro Bowl. I'm not twenty three hundred yards. Yeah, 482 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: that was like when Priest was doing crazy stuff for Cannon. Yeah. 483 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: I still I'm like who, I'm still like, who else 484 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: would Herds Martin? I don't even know Jerome Battest. I 485 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: can't imagine any of them would have had a season 486 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: better than that. Maybe it's just an error from pro 487 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: and I bet twenty touchdowns combined touchdown? Maybe back then 488 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: they cared for a different thing on each team. Apparently, 489 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: Really you're looking at three Pro Bowl so as Priest 490 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: Holmes in the AFC and the NFC was Deuce McAllister, 491 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: Let's go dude, how do you only have one Pro 492 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: Bowl on or one running back on your probrale and reserves? 493 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if they huh so so he maybe 494 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: he made as a reserve that year. It just says 495 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: has a little astick if you made the Pro Bowl 496 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: and he didn't. He didn't make it that year, that 497 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: sounds like an all Pro kind of season running back 498 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: with a hundred freaking catches, I don't see. Deserves were 499 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: Marshall Falk and Michael Bennett and the AFC. The reserves 500 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: were Ricky Williams with Danny and Thomason and Jason. So 501 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: he did make it as Okay, that's still crazy, Yeah, 502 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: that would be crazy if he didn't make it feel 503 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: better now I don't. I don't listen to talking cowboys, 504 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: but I bet if I, but you should. Why not 505 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: listening to all them? As I'm busy, I got I'm 506 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: the listeners absolutely shore sitting next you sit in between 507 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: a triangle of Rob Mickey. I know I get enough 508 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: talking talking cowboys all day for if I didn't. If 509 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: I did listen to talking cowboys, I bet I would 510 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: hear stuff about how the Saints get going vertical by 511 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: a get going horizontal like they love, you know, Kamara 512 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: on the jet sweep, Kamara on the toss sweep Ingram 513 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: does it too. But the thing that's I think that 514 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 1: actually works out really well for the Cowboys because they 515 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: have sideline to sideline speed. Obviously, Jalen and vander Esh 516 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence is great against the run. These cornerbacks are 517 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: willing to come up and tackle. Byron and Cheeto probably 518 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: didn't get enough credit for their work doing that against 519 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: Washington the other day. The thing that scares me um, 520 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: I think Drew Brees is going to just attack the 521 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: middle of the field against this team. Like he's got 522 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: two tight ends. He trusts Dan Arnold and Ben Watson. 523 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: He's obviously Drew Brees, so he's not afraid to throw anywhere. 524 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: Mike Thomas can play in the slot, does a lot 525 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: of his work, you know, coming you know, cutbacks and 526 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: out routes from the middle of the field, and I 527 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: think they've played well. But Jeff Heath and Nixavier Woods 528 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: are not impervious to these types of things, and I'm 529 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: just I'm worried that that's where they're going to try 530 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: to do their damage because you have running backs and 531 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: tight ends, and then a receiver who can play in 532 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: the slot, all of whom are comfortable doing that, and 533 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: a quarterback who's not afraid to make a single throw. 534 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: And I just think that could be problematic for them 535 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: and something that I would watch for. Yeah, I think 536 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: the secondary Cowboys secondary, I think they're in position a lot. 537 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: I don't think they get interceptions as much as they 538 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: probably should. And I think that a quarterback like this 539 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: is a quarterback that can be dangerous for them because 540 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: he can throw it to tight windows. He can throw 541 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: to guys who aren't necessarily open, but he'll put it 542 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: in a place where they can get it. And I 543 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: think that and that's I mean, that's not just this 544 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: second day, that's every secondary. That makes it extremely difficult 545 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: because now even when you're in good coverage, you can 546 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: still get a completion. He made a throw on Thanksgiving 547 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: against the Falcons. It was actually incomplete, but it just 548 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: dropped my jaw because he sent the tight end. Dan 549 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: Arnold went down the seam and Drew was looking at 550 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: Thomas all the way left and then at the last 551 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: minute jerked his head all the way across the field. 552 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: Is perfect coverage, like there's no room whatsoever, and he 553 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: threw it anyway and put it right on the dude's 554 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: helmet and the falcons dB made a great play and 555 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: batted it away. But like just the audacity and it's 556 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: not audacity though, because he knows he can do it, 557 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: And I just how there you? I mean, it was 558 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: so good. He's so good. There's like three quarterbacks. There's 559 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks who can make that throw, but 560 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: not very many that have the confidence to do it 561 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: and the skill to reliably hit it. It's scary, and 562 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: I just it's something I mean, you know, between the 563 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: linebackers and the safeties. I just think that they you know, 564 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: we saw it happened with Vernon Dave last week. A 565 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: lesser quarterback took advantage of it. And I just think, 566 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: I think Drew, I think there will be plays to 567 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: be made over the middle of the field for these guys. 568 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: I was looking at something. I'm trying to figure out 569 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: the best defense that the Saints have played against this season. 570 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: The Ravens the Browns actually the only two teams in 571 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: the league that have held them under thirty rights. Those 572 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: are two probably the two best defenses that they've played, 573 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: and both of them played them to a very close game. 574 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: If you look at it, the Browns lost twenty one eighteen. 575 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: The Ravens lost twenty four twenty three. So defense factors 576 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: in here. Cowboys can play a good game on defense. 577 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: It can slow this offense down some you have to 578 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: score and match, but but that does that is one 579 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: of the positive things that maybe you can take out 580 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: of this, right And Drew Brees doesn't throw a lot 581 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: of picks, but they fumble the ball a decent amount, 582 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: it seems. I mean, Ingram's had fumble problems his whole career, 583 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: and with the amount of action, I guess you would say, 584 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: you know, there's a like Drew Brees fumbled it while 585 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: he was trying to pitch it out, And so I 586 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: wonder if maybe they can take advantage of that. Maybe 587 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: the Saints will put the ball on the turf a 588 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: couple of times. All right, let's take our final break, 589 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: and we would when we come back. I want to 590 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: dig a little dipper deeper, deeper, deeper into this matchup 591 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: between the Saints offense and the Cowboys defense, which as 592 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: of right now has shown to be very impressive and explosive. 593 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: So well, the player can look good on paper, it's 594 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: when he's out on the field that you really find 595 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: out what he's made of. 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Sounds like 640 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: that flight when we went to London, remember that, and 641 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: the flight attendants would talk like that, like, oh yeah. 642 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: I was like the whole time. I was like, wow, anyways, 643 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: Tommy John, vinceus. We're not gonna go down to the ocean. 644 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, Derek. Wow awesome. Anyways, I mean, if you did, 645 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: you'd have some Tommy John underwear. I don't know what 646 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: that would help. You don't know that that helps much, 647 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: though it might, because Tommy John does everything. 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Maybe they do. 657 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm working on really body training right now with 658 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: my son. That's what I'm saying. They can't mess Tommy Jonathan. 659 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: I don't know some little little Kimas Jonathan. Ye. So anyways, 660 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: go to the website. You'll find a lot of cool 661 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: stuff there and you can get your personalized Dallas Cowboys 662 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: geared to create a fan down low. Yeah all right, 663 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: thank you, and then to cover fan. Yeah all right. 664 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: So we talked about all the greatness that the Saints 665 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: have in their offense, but the Cowboys defense doesn't really 666 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: stay behind. I mean, they've been doing a pretty good job. 667 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: They've been very dynamic on the field, and you mentioned 668 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: a few different positions. We talked about safety, but once 669 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: you looks so happy, you talked about safety in the secondary, 670 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: so once you look at it as an overall in general, 671 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: the whole defense as a group, because we've seen how 672 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: each position has been able to help the other once 673 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: you combine that, do you think that the Cowboys can 674 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: actually stop them somehow in a way like slow them 675 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: down a little bit. You're not going to stop them, 676 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: but slow them now a little bit. That is that 677 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: has to be the hope. And the Cowboys they're I mean, 678 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: you know they're not They're not this juggerna when it 679 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: comes to, you know, just completely shutting down the opposition. 680 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: But they've been great in the red zone. They've been 681 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: great at not allowing scores. They're only given up nineteen 682 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: point four, which, as Nick just reminded us, that's half 683 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: of what the Saints are scoring. So something's got to give. 684 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: I mean, one of those is a lot this week. 685 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: This week, h even you know, against the Redskins, the 686 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys they only gave up they gave up two long 687 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: scoring drives. The others, you know, one started on their 688 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: twenty five because of a return, the other started at 689 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: like midfield. So they've been fantastic at turning scoring opportunities 690 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: into field goals or takeaways. And they're they're just they're 691 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: going to have to be on the Screws this week, 692 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: and that's it's it's fascinating because I don't have a 693 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: great answer for you because we've seen them do it 694 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: consistently throughout the year, not necessarily against an offense that's good. 695 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: And that's just that's gonna I really think that's gonna 696 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 1: be the story of the game because the Cowboys aren't 697 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 1: winning a shootout. They're not gonna win a fifty one 698 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: to forty eight game. They're just not, I don't think. 699 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: But they could win a you know, they could win 700 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: a twenty seven to twenty four game. Maybe. Honestly, both 701 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: these defenses are too good for that. And that's not 702 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: I mean, Cowboys defenses play well, but New Orleans has 703 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: a good defense too. I think both of them are 704 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: too good for this to be just a you know, 705 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: we're just gonna line up that basically that Kansas City 706 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: and in Los Angeles game a couple of weeks ago. 707 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be that. It can't be that. These 708 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: defenses I think are too good for that. That's well, 709 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: that's what's curious to me is I always think about 710 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: the Houston game because it's really it's the most glaring 711 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: example of the defense buckling down, because if they give 712 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: up touchdowns on even like two of those drives, all 713 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Texans have thirty points instead of nineteen. 714 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: You know that's going to be the test, because if 715 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: the Saints get down there and they're scoring touchdowns everything, 716 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: you know, if they're if they go three for three 717 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: in the red zone, they're probably gonna score thirty four 718 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: or thirty eight points and win somewhat comfortably. If you 719 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: can turn a few of those into field goals. Now 720 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: you've push this or turn whatever. Now you're talking about 721 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: them scoring in the mid to high twenties, and that's 722 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: much more manageable. Well, that's the story that leads to 723 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: this question which relates to this topic, and I pull 724 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: these from Twitter. We've seen obviously the Saints they've been 725 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: able to score over thirty points easily. Now the Cowboys 726 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: they've struggled scoring anything passed twenty points. So let's say 727 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: the defense, the Cowboys defense is able to hold them 728 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: lower than thirty points. Do you think the Cowboys offense 729 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: with that is able to score enough in order to 730 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: win a game. I think they're able to score enough. Yes, 731 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: I do said this a lot. I do think that 732 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: games kind of, you know, take a life of their 733 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: own and they can be kind of these shootout type 734 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 1: of games. Doesn't have to be up in the forties 735 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: or fifties, but I think if if you get a 736 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: lot of possessions going, yes, I think the Cowboys can do. 737 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: That's the only way that they're really going to win, 738 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: in my opinion, is is if to limit the Saints 739 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 1: under thirty points, which you know it doesn't happen often, 740 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 1: but I think that they're gonna have to play their 741 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: style of football, and their style football is going to 742 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: be running it, getting first downs. Uh, you know, you're 743 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of third and shorts. They're gonna 744 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: have to go for it a lot. I think that 745 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: you'll see more of an aggressive play caller, whoever that is. UM. 746 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: I think that you'll you'll see UM. I definitely think 747 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: you'll see the Cowboys have it. They can't punt, they 748 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: can't they can't kick long field goals. They don't trust 749 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: their kicker to kick long field goals. So I think 750 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: this is gonna be one of those games where you're 751 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: gonna see a little bit more risk taking by the Cowboys, 752 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: which just to your point they I mean, you're absolutely right, 753 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: they have struggled to score. But in this during this 754 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: three game winning stream, how much you bought it, they're 755 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: averaging twenty seven points a game. Yeah, I have no 756 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: idea how much I buy it. I think that. I mean, 757 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: they had thirty one last week and they looked like 758 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: that looked like the offense from the years passed when 759 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 1: this offense could put up not I mean, they were 760 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: getting into the thirties regularly back then because they had 761 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: a receiving threat that could take at the distance and 762 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: they had the running game going. If it's that team, 763 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: maybe they can get into a game where I don't 764 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: think they I still don't think they can get into 765 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: that forty fifty point range and expect to win against 766 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: this team. But I do think that maybe they can 767 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: get into that thirty one thirty four range and have 768 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: an opportunity. But they like on the web side of 769 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: what you just said about the Saints and the red zone, 770 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: the Cowboys get down there, they cannot do anything where 771 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: they're kicking a field goal like first and goal in 772 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: the four and they end up kicking the field goal 773 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: like that can't happen, Like I think you almost have 774 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: to be in four down territory when you get down 775 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: to that point in the game. Scott Nahan was asked 776 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: yesterday why not just run the ball three times on 777 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: a row with Zeke and and he said, because they 778 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: think that's what we're going to do pretty much, which 779 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: is what we've always said that we think that he 780 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: goes that sounds that's what the you know, the run 781 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 1: fronts are not favorable. You're gonna have to kind of 782 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 1: grind through it. And we see someone on one matchups 783 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: on the outside, which is what they saw with Beasley 784 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: who dropped the ball, and what they saw with Noah 785 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: Brown who didn't get a good pass and he might 786 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: have I don't know if he would have caught it 787 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: or not. Probably it's that frustrating for you, Derek. It's 788 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: a little frustrating. It is it is, because it's like 789 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: just because they know you're gonna do it, doesn't mean 790 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,479 Speaker 1: it's still not a good option. And what I would 791 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 1: say is that's again where you want to talk about 792 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 1: where I think they can you know, at some point 793 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: maybe they can use a gadget player to be able 794 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: to help them. That's where it can help you a 795 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: little bit is that now you give them a little 796 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: bit something more to think about. I do like the 797 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: idea of spreading the team out because they can't give 798 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: you that unfavorable matchup. If you spread them out, it's 799 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: very hard for them to keep so many guys in 800 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 1: there to where you cannot run the ball, but especially 801 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: if you can run the ball with either Dak or 802 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: z Okay, let me let me ask you that though 803 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,240 Speaker 1: you spread them out and thinking, all right, I've spread 804 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: you out, but they didn't really go out there. Okay, 805 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: then that means that means I got a one on 806 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: one matchup that I feel like I can win. That's 807 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: not what they do, but that's what they did against 808 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: the Falcons. And like Cole Beasley dropped it, Yeah, and 809 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: again I'll take that. I'll still do that play. If 810 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: you give me that matchup, I'll do that play, and 811 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: I guarantee he'll catch it not out often enough or 812 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: Noah Brown wide open. I mean, you're just saying like, 813 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: I don't little less confident in him. But but I know, 814 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: But in that situation, if I'm gonna get Cole matched 815 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: up on the outside one on one and he has 816 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: the ability to use his athleticism to get open and 817 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: catch the ball. I can trust that. That's something I 818 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 1: can trust. That's better than me getting into a situation 819 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: where I've got thirteen personnel in the field and I'm 820 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 1: trying to run. Like yeah, I get that. You've basically 821 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: allowed them to make it to where running is very difficult, 822 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: you know, Derek agitated. I agree with you, and I 823 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,439 Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. It's just gets frustrating a little 824 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: bit to me. I the Saints do that type of 825 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 1: stuff really well, and it's frustrating to watch. But what 826 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: do you mean do what kind of spread it out 827 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 1: and miss missdirection and all that. They put a quarterback 828 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: into play receiver, they do it. They He's got a 829 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,720 Speaker 1: gadget stuff going on over there. He's got a bigger 830 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,919 Speaker 1: role than I really mentioned him. I'm surprised you didn't 831 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: mention Taysom Hill. He's got a much bigger role than 832 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: I gave him credit for. He's played one hundred and 833 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 1: thirty snaps this year. He's carried the ball thirty two times. 834 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 1: He's averaging five yards per carry when he does it. 835 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: Is he gonna be their next quarterback? I doubt it. 836 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna be their next coach. I'm saying, uncomfortable side. 837 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about that today. No, No, 838 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Sean Payton. I'm talking about like he's 839 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: not gonna be there forever, and he's probably gonna be 840 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 1: there as long as Drew Brees is gonna be there. 841 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: Don't you think I don't know. I'll talk about it. 842 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that later. Taysom Hill offseason conversation will 843 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 1: probably touch the ball more than Cooper Rush three to 844 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: five times this game. Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, 845 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: all right. I have a one last question for you guys. 846 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: The Cowboys have one three game in a row. If 847 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 1: they were to lose this game, how much can a 848 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: loss against a team like this disrupt the momentum that 849 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 1: they've gained those far. It's the classic, David, It's the 850 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: classic thing where you thank you. It's a classic thing. 851 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: You can't let the same team beat you twice. But like, 852 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: this game doesn't matter as much as the Eagles game. 853 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I know that, I know that they all matter, 854 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: but you just got I mean, Nick has been saying 855 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 1: that for a month. You just beat the Eagles, and 856 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 1: that's I hope. I think this is gonna be a 857 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 1: great game. But if the Saints win comfortably, you can't. 858 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: You just gotta flush it exact and focus on the division. Oh, 859 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 1: this game definitely has a feel for some like moral victory. 860 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: Do it if you if you get beat like twenty eight, 861 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: twenty four or something like that, as long as the 862 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: head coach and or anybody didn't like, you know, mismanage 863 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: the game. But if you if you do something where 864 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: it's like you can come out of feeling good, you 865 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 1: can you be like all right. I mean, the thing 866 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: about it was is that you had to win. They've 867 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 1: they've helped themselves. They've got a little bit of cushion. 868 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: Even though it's six and five, you don't feel like 869 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 1: there's cushion, but you still feel like, Okay, you did 870 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: enough where if you do lose a game here, you know, 871 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 1: you gotta beat Philly, You gotta beat the Bucks and 872 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: keep it. Somebody one of these two teams that's trailing 873 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,399 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the Standings is gonna lose on Monday night. 874 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: They have to because they play each other. So that's 875 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: I don't this this game is not the end goal. 876 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: I mean it would be amazing if they won, and 877 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: I think they can win. Not trying to suggest that, 878 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: I just don't think they should even play it but 879 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: the Eagles. But this is not I guess the point 880 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: of it is. I don't think everybody should go into 881 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: this game, and I'm talking to fans right now, I 882 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: don't think I think it's a mistake to go into 883 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 1: this game thinking if the Cowboys lose, everything is lost. 884 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 1: It is not like this is lost. This game. Really 885 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: it will help you to win. But if you lose it, 886 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: everything's still right in front of you. It still got 887 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: to go beat Philadelphia. It would be so enormous If 888 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 1: they did win, though it would be out, it gives 889 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,479 Speaker 1: them that much more room for error. I really think 890 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I think nine wins is going 891 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,959 Speaker 1: to be enough to get into the playoffs in this division. Yeah, 892 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: and if you can double up, like if you can 893 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: get this win and then also be Philadelphia, you might 894 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: actually be wrapping up before you get to week seventeen. 895 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: You may be wrapping up this division if you can 896 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,439 Speaker 1: get those If you if you said indicator that that's 897 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: not going to happen, because that never happens for the cowls. 898 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: There have been times in the last three or four 899 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: years when the Cowboys get on these kinds of roles. 900 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: That was when they were ten and one, right, But 901 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like what we what we're seeing right 902 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: now suggests that Amari Cooper and what they did on 903 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: the offensive line have made them a different team than 904 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: what we saw at the beginning of the year. Now, 905 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 1: the question is are they good enough to where you 906 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: can compare them to those teams or is it just 907 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: better than what they were doing earlier this year, which is, 908 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: you know, still the middle of the road. I said this, 909 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: I know we're running out of time. This this team 910 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,359 Speaker 1: is interesting though, because usually when the Cowboys are good, 911 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: we know by Halloween, you know, like I don't, I 912 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: don't know if this team is good and not to 913 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,280 Speaker 1: find out, yeah we are. Like these next two games, 914 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: I who determined to be continued all right, Tomorrow we're 915 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: gonna dive into the Saints defense and see how that 916 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: matches up against the Cowboys offense. For Derrek Hilton, Meekhiman, 917 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: David Hillman and Burger see how this has been Cowboys 918 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been 919 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 1: a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas 920 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys Football Club.