1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to betting pros. It's time to place 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: your bets. It is me Joey Joe Pi's Apia and 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: this is BP ANDFL joining me the Undertaker Andrew Erickson 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: for week two, look ahead at some early value on 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: the early lines, and if you watched last week, I'm 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: pretty sure you did. You got a lot of help 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: here from us, including that Cowboys upset. Oh. I wish 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: we could have had the Raiders due they gave that 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: game away, but you can't get everything. Also, last week 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: we crushed some of the props. I hope you made 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: money on all those touchdowns that I gave you. And 12 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: of course that Daniel Jones over on the interceptions man 13 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: oh Man, Andrew Erickson, that's one that might be the 14 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: gift that keeps on giving all year. But look, our 15 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: Patriots came out as winners in week one, crushing everyone 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: survivor pools. There's a lot of joy that I have 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: in that too. That was kind of fun. Andrew, I 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: think we should just quit here as Pats fans. I 19 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna get any better than this. 20 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: Yes, I've already bet on the Seattle Seahawks to cover 21 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: the spread. That's the way I'm looking at us on again. 22 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: The Bengals are horrible in September. They're always horrible in September, 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: and it seemed like maybe this year, oh, Joe Burrow 24 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: is healthy, but then you look at him on the sideline, 25 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: he's like messing around with his wrists. We don't know 26 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: what's going on. Jamar Chase is playing f and our 27 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: practicing all year. Tie Higgins was out, so we're just 28 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: bad vibes overall from the Bengals. But the Bengals do 29 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: this every year. They just kind of sleep walk through 30 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 2: September and then they find a way to kind of rally, 31 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: get the troops going, get to the playoffs. So let's 32 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: not bury the Bengals quite yet, and let's not overrate 33 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: the Patriots quite yet. 34 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: No, let's definitely not do the ladder. Well, well, I 35 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,639 Speaker 1: don't want to do the former either, but definitely don't 36 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: do the ladder. But we are going to look at 37 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: week two, give you our early takes on the games 38 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: and find some value if there is any on the lines. 39 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: And of course don't forget to sink your sports books 40 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: for free. Download the Betting pros app right now. 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More importantly, to keep making good 50 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: bets on using the Betting Pros app only at DraftKings Sportsbook. 51 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: The crown is yours, all right, let's kick things off 52 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: here Thursday night, another Barnburner two Thursdays in a row 53 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: erics and I love this Buffalo Miami. So the Bills handled, 54 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: they came back there. They were down to the Cardinals, 55 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: they came back. Miami also got dicey there for a while. 56 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: A weird start to this game too, with all the 57 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: drama ahead of time. Miami is one and a half 58 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: point favorites at home. This feels about right to me. 59 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: At minus one ten over on betting pros. The number 60 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: is fifty and a half. If you like Buffalo for 61 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: the win, here you get even money. So Josh Allen 62 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: had to take over and basically dominate in order to 63 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: get this team where they needed to be at home. 64 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: Now they're going to travel to Miami. Any early takes 65 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: or early value see on this line. I know it's 66 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: a high number with the fifty and a half, but 67 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: I feel like it's going to be an over. What 68 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: do you think? 69 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 2: I think these lines are pretty spot on. It's a 70 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: high total. Like you said, the spread is to Miami 71 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: because they're playing at home, But I would say the 72 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: best value is just builds money line. 73 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 3: I mean Josh Allen. 74 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: You saw they were down big at home and he 75 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: puts on the Superman cape and makes it happen. So 76 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 2: I don't see anything about Miami's defense that suggests that 77 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 2: they're gonna be able to stop Josh Allen in any capacity. 78 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: And as long as Tua starts hitting on more of 79 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: these throws, I don't think the Bill's defense is going 80 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 2: to stop. 81 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: So maybe the play is just on the over. 82 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: I don't think either defense is really stunting, to be 83 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: honest with you, and look that game could have gone 84 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: another way from Miami too. They got a huge break 85 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: in that game where it turned around. So to me, 86 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: I think the over is the way I'm going to 87 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: which is weird because it's a Thursday night game and sometimes, 88 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, especially early on, those can kind of drag behind. 89 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: I don't believe in either of these defenses, so Erics 90 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: and I are in the same mind on this one. 91 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: Let's go to the next game on our list. The 92 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens are zero to one, but that's okay. They 93 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: lost to the Chiefs. They are at home now. They 94 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: are eight and a half point favorites against the Las 95 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders. It's a lot of points, but again, the 96 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: Raiders certainly looked the man like I said they Gardner 97 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: Minshew in company just canded that game to the Chargers, 98 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: and you could tell I'm bitter about it because I 99 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: bet on them. Forty two and a half is the 100 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: number plus three twenty five for the upset for Vegas. 101 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm staying away. This is one of the most heavily 102 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: favorite games of week two. Ericson, do you see any 103 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: early value here on the lines? 104 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: I think I like the under because this is a 105 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: classic spot where we look up and it's Baltimore thirty 106 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: and the Raider seven. 107 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: That's the way I kind of I see this game. 108 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: That's interesting. 109 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: So again, I just think that the Raiders is gonna 110 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: be overmatch. We've seen teams go to Baltimore and get 111 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: completely overwhelmed. Happens to the Lions last year, a Super 112 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 2: Bowl team. They went to Baltimore and they got whooped. 113 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: So the Raiders, again, we saw what they'd get into. 114 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: The Chargers not over impressive. We're not impressed with Gardner 115 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: Minshew and the Raiders. I mean, they do have a 116 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: good defense. They should have a good defense. So I 117 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be a little scoring game. So I 118 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: take the under. 119 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: Well, considering that they gave up some huge plays there 120 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: to JK. Dobbins, they should be very worried about. Actually, 121 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: to be very worried, I would think about Dereck Henry 122 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: in this contest. So yeah, I'm with you. Eight and 123 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: a half is a big number. I think we're gonna 124 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: stay away from that. I think you're you might be 125 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: spot on there with the under. I think maybe like 126 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: a twenty seven to ten kind of a feel here 127 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: that would keep this one very much in check on 128 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: the under. Next one here the New Orleans Saints coming 129 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: out a huge win against Andrew Erickson's Carolina Panthers. The 130 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys also undefeated after a week one butt kicking. 131 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: We told you the line was wrong, oil boy? Was it? 132 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,559 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at home? Six and a half point favorites 133 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: over New Orleans? That feels about right to me. I 134 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: think people are gonna overvalue maybe and see a lot 135 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: of value in New Orleans after that incredible win. But 136 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how much we want to take out 137 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: of that. Forty five and a half is the total 138 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: plus two forty four New Orleans on the money line? Now, 139 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: I know sometimes you know, the Cowboys can let us 140 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: down and let down their fan base as well. But Andrew, 141 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: based off what you saw yesterday and both these teams 142 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: being victorious, what do you make of this contest here 143 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: in we two? 144 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: I think this is Dallas. They're playing at home. This 145 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 2: is where they cover games, even when they're heavy favorites. 146 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: They're going to take care of business again. But the 147 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: Saints look good because I think they're playing the Panthers. 148 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: I really think that has more to do with it. 149 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: I'm not still a believer in Dennis Allen long term. 150 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: So for me, this is I'm going to bet against 151 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: the Saints again two weeks in a row, but this 152 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: time I'm actually betting on a good team, not a 153 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: bad team like the Carolina Panthers. So I feel a 154 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,119 Speaker 2: little bit more confident, especially with Dallas playing at home 155 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: and Jerry World, where they are usually very good covering 156 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: spreads even this large. 157 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with the six and a half. I would 158 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: bet the six and a half early. However, it would 159 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: not shock me if this went to six or in 160 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: five and a half. Based on people living in this 161 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: New Orleans win a little too much, and you know, 162 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: seeing Derek Carr throw all these touchdowns and oh, maybe 163 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: New Orleans is back, and maybe you know, I'm with you. 164 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: I think it was more of a case of opponent 165 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: than it was New Orleans being great Necessarily. This is 166 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: a much different to the circumstances in the Dallas pass 167 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: rush and Michael Arson's really got after it, and you know, 168 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: I think that's something they could do again in this 169 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: game very easily. Seedeelamb looked great. Any concerns about any 170 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: jet lag for him after not playing that was obviously 171 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: not a factor in this one at all yesterday. So 172 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm good with the six and a half. But I 173 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: would watch this one and I would bet heavier on 174 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: it if it started to move a little bit more 175 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: towards the New Orleans side of things. So just keep 176 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: an eye on this one. I could see this one 177 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: getting a little bit of attention. The Los Angeles Chargers 178 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: came out with a w. The Carolina Panthers did not. 179 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: The Panthers at home four and a half point underdogs. 180 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: That feels like not enough to me based on what 181 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: I saw, or should I say, did not see in 182 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: Sunday's game. Thirty nine and a half is the number here. 183 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: If you like Carolina on the money line, it's plus 184 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: one ninety all right, ericson. So do the Chargers travel? 185 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: That's the question I'm gonna ask you. 186 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always like because like the Chargers, Chargers travel. 187 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: You're unsure because it's the Chargers are always going to charge. 188 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: But remember this is Harbaugh's Chargers, you know, and this 189 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: is a typical spot where the Chargers never cover the spread. 190 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: But Harbaugh being there makes a difference. Having an adults 191 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: in the room at head coach makes a big difference. 192 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: So I'm going to keep back in Harbaugh, especially when 193 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: it's against Carolina. 194 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean I'm off. 195 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: I hate to jump ship this this early, but and 196 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: I need to rewatch that Carolina game to get a 197 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: better sense of is this just over Is it just 198 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: this team is just so under man with Rice Sung? 199 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: Is he just so overwhelmed? This is never going to work. 200 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: So my lean is I. 201 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: Think the answer to all those questions. 202 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's that's kind of how I'm leaning 203 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: towards as well. So I think it's still gonna be 204 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: the charges for me. And again I would also go 205 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: towards the under here because the Chargers want to run 206 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: the football and I don't think Parentis can score so under. 207 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: I just have this conversation with debro and Fits on 208 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: the Fantasy Growth podcast this morning. I said, look, I 209 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: think it's safe that we can call Rice Young the 210 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: bus now, Like I don't want to keep getting into 211 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: this and we could say, well, maybe they wanted to 212 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: give Dave ken Allie more time. I don't need to 213 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: see anything else. I really don't, and it's unfortunate. The 214 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: guy had a really good college career always was tough 215 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: on him. In college, I thought he was one of 216 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: these guys that really benefited a great deal from what 217 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: was around him. I thought he always struggled whenever he 218 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: was pressured in the pocket and some of those bigger 219 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: SEC matchups you would see that happen. I thought he 220 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: got better as his career went on in college, but 221 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: it was always something that really concerned me. And look, 222 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: this is where the big boys play, and at this point, 223 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: it is a tough road to see. At the end 224 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: there that Bryce Young comes out looking like, Yeah, I 225 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: deserve to be the number one overall pick. That's just 226 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: where it is. Before we continue with our next game. 227 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: Just a quick reminder to everybody too. 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So download and use the Betting Pros 238 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: app today, find the most profitable betting systems that work 239 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: for you, and again, start betting smarter, not harder. That's 240 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: what we're here to do, folks. All right, let's go 241 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: to the next game. Here, the Detroit Lions taking on 242 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Baker Mayfield himself a good game. 243 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: They are six and a half point underdogs to the Lions. Here. 244 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: Forty eight and a half is the number plus two 245 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: to sixty five on the money line for Tampa Bay 246 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: to get a victory. I'm gonna say this Ericson. I 247 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: don't know if it's hot take, but I like the 248 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: Buck side of this one. With the points the six 249 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: and a half, I feel like the Bucks can go 250 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: in there. They know they're gonna be underdogs. I think 251 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield feeds on that mentality. I thought he had 252 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: a really good game. Yes, the Commander's defense, it's not 253 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: quite the Lions defense. I get that. However, they've got 254 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: enough weapons to compete offensively. I think they can keep 255 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: this within the six and a half. I like the 256 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: early value on this one. What say you? 257 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 3: I agree? 258 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: You know, last year Baker Mayfield was one of the 259 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: better bets as a road underdog. And look, we're talking 260 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: about former first aw picks Baker Mayfield. 261 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: He's got a swag back, man. I think that he does. 262 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: I think that he's feeling confident. You know how things 263 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: ended up with Cleveland and then Carolina, But now I 264 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: think he's finally found a home in Tampa Bay. They 265 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: signed him to the extension, and I think that maybe 266 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: it was overblown. Again, I talked about during the off 267 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: season how much I like Liam Cohen as the replacement 268 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: for Dave Canals. I know that was the thing that 269 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: we were concerned about. It's gonna lose Canals, what's gonna happen. 270 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: But I felt like bringing Cohen was the key to 271 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: this Buccaneers offense still being successful. At least through Week 272 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: one he was successful. So again, if this was playing 273 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: in Detroit, I obviously like the over. So I'm gonna 274 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: be obviously betting that, of course, but I do think, yes, 275 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: the Buccaneers within a touchdown. 276 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 3: I do like that value. 277 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: You know what else? I like this next one Indianapolis 278 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: going on the road to Green Bay and Indy is 279 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: favored by only three. I mean, what Malik Wilson's playing 280 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: quarterback as of right now? Like maybe they signed like 281 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: even if they signed Ryan Danehill, Like how many plays 282 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: can he learned and get indoctrinated to the system. Forty 283 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: one and a half is the number. I am tempted 284 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: for the under on this game, but I could also 285 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: see bad things happening in this game, really getting ugly 286 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: at one point, so I'm not running to it. It 287 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: is a low number of anything. Maybe I'm a little 288 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: on the over to tell you the truth, but plus 289 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: one thirty five for agreement Packers on the money line, 290 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: I don't think three is enough. I think this one 291 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: is going to grow. I think this is probably one 292 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: of the clearest early values on betting pros that you 293 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: could find. What say you, Andrew Erickson, Colts to the 294 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: loveless Packers. 295 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I did my early projections for BP, this 296 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 2: was more Colts minus four and a half. So I'm 297 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: there with you on the Colts. Like Malik Willis, he 298 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: has been more of a running back than a quarterback 299 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: at the NFL level, Like he has an not shown 300 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: that he can pass away. He takes sacks like a madman, 301 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: like Will Levis and Richardson as explosive as he looked. 302 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: He was nine for nineteen for over two hundred passing 303 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: yards of the most Anthony richards stat line you could 304 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: ask for just throwing out a suit bombs to Aleck Pearce, 305 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: Ashton duell In, but then missing wide open throws. 306 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: So that up and down. 307 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: So again I'm concerned about the total because of the 308 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: matter of does he hit on those explosive plays or 309 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: he does not, And I'm just not confident with Milk Willster. 310 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: I mean I think that I think we talked about 311 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 2: this another show that Green Bay is gonna be. I 312 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: think they're gonna be shopping for a quarterback soon. I 313 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: think it was about in regards to Russ, right, we 314 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: were talking about Russ as a potential. 315 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: I think, look, it depends on how long. If it's 316 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: gonna be six weeks, then I think it's really important. 317 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna be that two to four window. Maybe you 318 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: kind of just grinned, Barrett and try to grind it out. 319 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean a Tannehill would make more 320 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: sense then but it's I don't think. I don't think 321 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: the Stewarts is gonna readily throw up the flag here 322 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: and just send Russell Wilson that quickly. It wasn't like fields, 323 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: you know was world yesterday. 324 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: He didn't lose the game for that like that's. 325 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: He didn't like. He didn't lose the game for them. 326 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: And I continue to say that people made fun of me. 327 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: I saw you on the chat telling that the Atlanta 328 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: Falcons defense isn't any good. Well, I think they're better 329 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: than you think they are. Sorry, I think the first 330 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: look was good. By the way, since we've been talking 331 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: about this, it's moved to three and a half already. 332 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: Okay, so there you go, so get it. While again 333 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 2: is the other thing on because the last thing on 334 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: the Colts too. 335 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 1: I got it at three this morning and now it's three. 336 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: And the trend all last year was the Colts is 337 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: you never met them as underdog because they always lose, 338 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: but then when their favorites they always cover like they 339 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: were very very much whatever the public market thinks is 340 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: going to happen to them, that's what they would follow 341 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: through and do. 342 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: So. Yes, I like the col Tea even on the road. 343 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: Let me put it to this way too. I thought 344 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: the Colts defense was played inspired compared to maybe what 345 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: we thought the I mean, look, that Houston Texans offense 346 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: is for real. They've got a lot of weapons. I 347 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: know they give up a lot of rushing yards to 348 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: mix and I get that. But but outside of that, 349 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: like that game was close. That was a tight game 350 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: all the way to the end. So let's give them 351 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of credit. Like right out of the 352 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: gate again, I love Indian this one. It's already moved 353 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: to three and a half. I'll still take it three 354 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: and a half. I would not be shocked by the 355 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: time we get to what the show with Terrell it. 356 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: Gets to have Alik Willis as the starter. 357 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: I think people are just gonna look, Malik was. 358 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: Is going to start no matter what happens. But we'll 359 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: see who finishes. The San Francisco forty nine ers are 360 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: gonna take all the Minnesota Vikings all. Sam Darnald in 361 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: that building that must have felt good for him. I'm 362 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: happy for Sam Donald in his giant head. That was 363 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: a nice moment for him that he was able to 364 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: go there and exercise those ghosts that he used to 365 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: see at Metlive Stadium. It was a great performance against 366 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: the Giants. At one point he was twelve for twelve 367 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: and now he gets to get home the conquering hero. 368 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: And what do you get the San Francisco forty nine Ers. 369 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: So they are underdogs plus five and a half in 370 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: their own building. Forty five and a half is the 371 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: number plus two hundred for Minnesota. I am going to 372 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: lay off this one early. I want to see again 373 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers tonight. We're recording this Monday morning, 374 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: so right now, I think this one looks right to me. 375 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do anything because if there's a 376 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: macaffrey injury, this line's gonna change. If you know, the 377 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers stomp amun hole in the Jets fingers crossed, 378 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden again this line might change 379 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: a little bit more too, and it might be worth changing. 380 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm staying away from this one. What do you see 381 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: when you see this forty nine Ers Vikings game in 382 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: Week two? 383 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, the projections I did line up exactly with what 384 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: the lines are, so I'm not Yeah, this is kind 385 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: of a shyaway spot for me too, because I want 386 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: to see, Like you said, which forty nine ers team 387 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: we're getting. 388 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: Are we getting the death. 389 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: Star forty nine ers team this year or are we 390 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: getting the Super Bowl hangover forty nine Ers team? 391 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna wait. 392 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: Now the one thing I'm not waiting for, which is 393 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: funny because the Jets are playing the forty nine ers. 394 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: And even though I think the Jets are gonna lose 395 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: to the forty nine ers, and if they do, Andrew 396 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: Erickson is gonna have to pay up on Thursday's show. 397 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: You're not gonna want to miss that one, folks, And 398 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: if I will, of course pay up if I am 399 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: the loser here to Andrew Erickson on Thursday. We are 400 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: men of honor, we are men of our word. We're 401 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: barely men sometimes, but here we go. That is gonna 402 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: be fun to watch. But regardless regardless Jets defense against 403 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: the Titans next week, I want to abut the one 404 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: early because the Titans are at home. They are four 405 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: point underdogs. I know it's gonna be tough for the 406 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: Jets to go on the road in the first two games. 407 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: But no matter what I see out of the Jets tonight, 408 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about them going into Tennessee and 409 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: handling them. Will Levis make stupid decisions, I mean, another 410 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: stupid decision in that game yesterday, and against the Jets defense, 411 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: they're gonna put pressure on you. They're gonna make you 412 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: pay for stupid decisions. And I could see a score 413 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: on defense easily in this game, and that would easily 414 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: take care of this cover. So I am on the 415 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: Jets side with the four in the early look ahead. 416 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: I've already bet it again. You can follow me at 417 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: betting pros dot com slash Joe, same thing with slash ericson. 418 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: Forty three and a half is the number that feels 419 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: right to me plus one sixty five for the Titans 420 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: to win outright, No, thanks, give me the Jets and 421 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: the four, Ericsson, What do you think? 422 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: I like the under again? 423 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: We saw what the Tennessee eight Titans offense was against 424 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 2: the Bears, and they're a game. 425 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 3: They're a team that want. 426 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 2: I mean, hadn't been for the special teams touchdown and 427 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: the pick six, that game would have been nowhere near 428 00:17:59,600 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 2: the toe. 429 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: So I think, yeah, I like the under. 430 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: Forty three and a half is especially with at forty 431 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: three and a half too, like that's it's not like 432 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 2: it's a I mean why I'm gonna be surprised if 433 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: this game was at forty or thirty nine and a half. Again, 434 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: it depends on what the Jets offense does and how 435 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: good they look. But I don't think the Jets need 436 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: to go into Tennessee thinking, oh, we need to put 437 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 2: up thirty points to beat Will Levis. I don't imagine 438 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: that's what the strategy is gonna be. 439 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: No, but I think they will beat Will Levis in Tennessee. Seattle, 440 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: New England. You tease this one earlier, your feelings Seattle 441 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: three point favorites on the road in New England. The 442 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: thirty nine and a half is the number plus one 443 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: forty for New England. I will say this, I saw 444 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: good things from the Seahawks, and I saw some not 445 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: so good things from the Seahawks. I wouldn't put it 446 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: past New England to cover here and keep this one close. 447 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: I just wouldn't. This game scares the crap out of me, 448 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: because even though I did believe that seven and a 449 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: half was too big, especially as we got later in 450 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: the week, I talked about that on Sports Grid on 451 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: Sunday morning. I was like, look, the seven and a half. 452 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: I think it's too big of a number here with 453 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: all these deficits that Cincinnati's working through. But Seattle had 454 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: its struggles at times in the in their Game two 455 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: against Denver, So I'm staying away from this one. 456 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: What do you think I'm taking Seattle. I think the 457 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 2: number is too small, even after the Patriots upset the 458 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: because it's solely driven by that. Right the Patriots, Oh 459 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: they're back. They're such a great team. They beat the Bengals, 460 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: and like I said, I just think, let's see it 461 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: for another week. And I get they're playing at home, 462 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 2: but the home field advantage of Jillette Stadium, it's I 463 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 2: don't really think it's significant. I would not overplay the 464 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: mystique of playing at Gillette, which is in the middle 465 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: of nowhere in Foxboro, Massachusetts, So I would the mistique. 466 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: Is Tom Brady, and Tom Brady doesn't. 467 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: Play, I would be back in Seattle here. I think 468 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 3: the numbers is too low. 469 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 2: I mean, I think Seattle they took care of business 470 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: against a rookie quarterback last week in the Patriots. Right, 471 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: the Patriots had the perfect game script. They were able 472 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 2: to establish the run because they had the lead and 473 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 2: the Bengals had to try to crawl their way back 474 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: into it. The Bengals had two They had a miss 475 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: or an overturned touchdown by Giseki who dropped the ball, 476 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 2: and then they had a play at the yard light 477 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 2: where Tanner Hudson fumbled the ball. They were going to 478 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 2: score on that play. So if the Bengals had come 479 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 2: back and won this game, we'd be looking up in 480 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: the Seattle minus four and a half. And I think 481 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: that's really more what the line should be. So again, 482 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: this isn't saying that the Patriots can't cover. I just 483 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: think that the value is on Seattle minstree. 484 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: I'm tempted for Patriots money line plus one forty. Instead, 485 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait and watch it and see if it grows, 486 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: if it gets like one sixty five, one seventy five 487 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 1: or something like that, if people really are you know, 488 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: digging in a little deeper and go, okay, let's not 489 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: go crazy about the Patriots, and you see a little 490 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: bit more money go to Seattle. Maybe maybe, just maybe 491 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: New England. All right, here's an interesting one. The Cleveland 492 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: Browns traveling to Jacksonville. Jacksonville three point favorites at home, 493 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: forty two and a half is the number plus one 494 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: thirty five on the Cleveland side to win outright, So 495 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: Jacks IVI was hanging with the Dolphins. Then everything kind 496 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: of fell apart for them. Was a big swing in 497 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: that game. Next thing you know, they were done. They 498 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: went from being up by fourteen to being tied and 499 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: then the rest is history there. So let's talk about 500 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: you know this, Watson was miserable in this game and 501 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: Djoku was hurt. The defense could only do so much 502 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: to stop the Dallas Cowboys. So Jacksonville, Cleveland, any early 503 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: value on this one for you? 504 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 2: I like the Jags here. They're playing at home. The 505 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: Browns defense has traditionally been much worse on the road 506 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: than at home. And I mean three points. It's Trevor 507 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: Lawrence for who's the better quarterback at this point, it's 508 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. Like you said, the Jaguars, I mean, I 509 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 2: don't remember when the line closed that. I thought it 510 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 2: was at three and a half. So they actually may 511 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,239 Speaker 2: have covered last week because they were I think they 512 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: were three and a half point dogs, so they should 513 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 2: have won that game out right. I mean they were 514 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: up big and they just fell apart in the second half, 515 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: so I'm not going to over evaluate the second half collapse. 516 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 2: Tell this last year with Jaguars too, they in the 517 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 2: second half of the season, they basically collapsed. So I 518 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 2: think they'll get things going. And Cleveland right now, I 519 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: mean they're reeling if we get another bad Deshaun Watts. 520 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 2: How many more games are he gonna be the starting quarterback. 521 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: If they lose again? None? I don't I think that. 522 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: You know, I'll gotta talk about this on Out of 523 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: Bound today w Bogman and Welsh. If you want to 524 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: hear that show, go to our Fantasy Pros podcast feed. 525 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 1: There's a lot of just audio only shows on there. There. 526 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: It's a much looser show. We kind of break down 527 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: the games from a fantasy perspective, but you know, we're 528 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: talking just kind of lose football stuff. And one of 529 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: the questions I'm gonna ask them today is you know 530 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: how much longer we do this? Because I don't think. 531 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: I don't think the leash is long. I think it's 532 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: September if any like that. At the most. 533 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: I mean, Mark Cooper had two catches on nine targets, 534 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: the most of Marik Cooper's stat line that he does 535 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: basically whatever quarterback it is. 536 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 3: But it just that's so who should. 537 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: They turn to in this gas? Baby jamis time? 538 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 2: I mean well, I mean they during the offseason they 539 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: talked about how the team loves James he's the backup quarterback, 540 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: and the team loves Hint like he's got If you're 541 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: playing super flex leagues, make sure Winston's unavailable, you got 542 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 2: to pick him up. 543 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: The best the Browns have looked. I mean, I mean, 544 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: it's Joe Flacco, Like, I'm kind of stunned that they 545 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: didn't just say. 546 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 3: Because they couldn't have him there because of the presence. 547 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: Because it's Watson's team, He's got to be the guy, 548 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: and so that's why they just you know what you. 549 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 4: Got to do. 550 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: You gotta make the playoff. They made the playoffs last year. Bro, 551 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: Joe Blackham made the playoffs with them. How do you 552 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: not look? I get it. I understand about making people uncomfortable, 553 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: but you know what, maybe some guys need to be 554 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: made to feel uncomfortable. Maybe that's exactly what Deshaun Watson needed. Anyway. 555 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders two and a half point favorites at home 556 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: against the New York Football Giants. Ooha forty two and 557 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: a half plus one twenty for the Giants to win 558 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: this one out right, there were people leaving MetLife Stadium 559 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter in droves, and I don't blame them. 560 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: They took an ass kicking from the Minnesota Viking, so Andrew. 561 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: The real question here is, like you saw Jayan Daniels. 562 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: You saw some good moments. You saw some moments again, 563 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: didn't feel the pressure where he ends up, you know, 564 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: coughing off the football. But you saw the things we 565 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: like so much about Jaydon Daniels. We got to get 566 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: Tarry McLaurin worked in more. Giants offense was sad. Let's 567 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: just put it that way. Daniel Jones continues to be 568 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: a turnover machine, so I will again be betting any 569 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: sort of Daniel Jones turnover numbers. I'm sure the juice 570 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: won't be as friendly this week as it was to 571 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: me last week. But what do you take out of 572 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: this one too? Forty two and a half is the 573 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: number you want to go with the under? 574 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: I think I'd lean towards the under, especially because you 575 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: have two quarterbacks that are gonna be running around that 576 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: creates turnovers and so I think I do like the 577 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 2: under and I think I like the Commanders. 578 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 3: They're playing at home. 579 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: It's it's Jane Daniels's first home start, and I know 580 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: that they didn't cover against the Buccaneers, but they got 581 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: The fans are excited. They're going to be giddy about 582 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: their new quarterback, their rookie. As long as he completes 583 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 2: the game, right, that's the issues. Like, dude, like, you 584 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: need to take care of yourself because he's run around, 585 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 2: his helmet is flying off. That's concerning as a fantasy manager. 586 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 2: J dail is like, dude, like love the rushing, love 587 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: all the touchdowns, but man like, if he's gonna be compiling, 588 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 2: I mean, he took all those hits at LC when 589 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 2: he made it through, so maybe he just did. 590 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: He's just one of those. 591 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 2: Guys where he takes the thicket just gets back up. 592 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm gonna I don't like, I'm gonna back 593 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 2: the Commanders here. 594 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: It's Indivision games as early. The Giants got their buck kicked, 595 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: embarrassed at home. It's gonna be a rough week of 596 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: pride just for them. This game does give make me 597 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: a little antsy. I'm a little cautious. How I prefer 598 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: to approach this one. Washington team total. I'm confident that 599 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: Washington to put up a certain amount of points on 600 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: the New York Giants, so I'd go over whatever the 601 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: team total is they set for Washington. Individually, the Giants, 602 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: I feel like they might show up here. You know, 603 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: teams when they get embarrassed and they have an indivision 604 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: game the next week goes out of conference games get 605 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: wacky sometimes because they're not familiar with each other. They 606 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: don't prepare the same way these are. You know, even 607 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: though it's a new staff, it's a new situation here, 608 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: it's the commander. So I think this one might be 609 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: a little bit trickier to peg down. So I'm going 610 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: hyper focused Washington team total over. That's where I'm going 611 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: to this one. The Los Angeles Rams going to play 612 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Cardinals. It's numbers one and a half 613 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: in some spots, two in another again dogs at home, 614 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: fifty and a half? Is this number plus one fourteen? Now, 615 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: the Puka Nacua injury also something to We'll get you 616 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: updated here. But with all that being said, with the 617 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: way the Cardinals, you know, really competed in Buffalo, tough 618 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: place to play week one. In that crowd, you like 619 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: what you saw out of Kyler Murray in this offense. 620 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: I gotta get more of Marvin Harrison in this game. 621 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: I think you will. I'd be betting every over on 622 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison is a huge correction this week. I know 623 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,959 Speaker 1: you might be scared of it, but it's gonna be okay. 624 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: Just trust me. What do you make out of this 625 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: one too? Rams Cardinals? It feels like a little bit 626 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: of you know, Cardinals money line value here, But I 627 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: don't think I'm ready to take that leap yet. 628 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: Look, there were two teams I liked a lot the NFC. 629 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 2: One was the Panthers that was wrong. The other one 630 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: was the Cardinals, which was right. So the cardinally wasn't. 631 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: They almost went outright. They still cover the spread even 632 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: though they didn't end up winning the game outright, so 633 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 2: it was plus six and a half last week. I 634 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 2: like the Cardinals here again. I'm just gonna keep backing 635 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 2: a team. Kyler Murray is continuously underrated. Right, they went 636 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 2: into Buffalo, they were up big, and yes, Josh Allen 637 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: is Josh Allen. He's gonna do those types of things. 638 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 3: But he just took over that game exactly. 639 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: I think that's what and that's gonna be tough to 640 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 2: be especially when he just takes over a game with 641 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: his legs in his arm and he's able to just 642 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 2: do like I mean, that's why he's viewed as the 643 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 2: best quarterback or one of the best top quarterbacks. So 644 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 2: for me, I think there's value with Arizona because this 645 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 2: Rams team's banged up again. Talked about Pooka offensive line injuries. 646 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: Two guys Noteboom Steve Avila both banged up. They're going 647 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: on the road, Yes, this game, expecting you to be 648 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: a shootout again Arizona. Last year that was a shootout Central, 649 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: But I don't know. I kind of like the undertheak. 650 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 2: The over under is really high, and I just think 651 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: that the Cardinals they're gonna be able to run the ball. 652 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: They're gonna be able to run the ball. James Connor. 653 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: They were feeding James Connor over and over and over again. 654 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 2: And what did the Lions do in overtime? 655 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 3: Gave the ball? Did Montgomery run it down their throats? 656 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: And the Rams had no, no answers to stop it 657 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: because they don't have Aaron Donald anymore. 658 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: So. 659 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 3: I love the Cardinals in this book. 660 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: All right, this should be a fun one theoretically, but 661 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: we'll see who shows up for Cincinnati this week. Cincinnati 662 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: and Kansas City for twenty five pm Eastern time. The 663 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: Chiefs are six point favorites. Forty seven is the number 664 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: plus two fifteen for the Cincinnati Bengals on the money line. Look, 665 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: six is a good size number. But I still like 666 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: the Chiefs in this one. I just do. I think 667 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are going to be a handful of the 668 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: worthy wrinkle into this offense. How it frees up Brushy 669 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: Rice over the middle because you're taking those safeties and 670 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: you know everyone's trying to stop saf You're worthy from 671 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: being them downfield? The checko looks good. Every Mahomes looks 672 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: like he's confident. Again. I don't know the Bengals slow starters. 673 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: We talked about it at the top of the show. 674 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: It just feels like that's it. But is six too 675 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: big of a number in your opinion? Or are you 676 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: still comfortable with that? 677 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 3: It just depends on what I mean, what are we 678 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: gonna get from the bank. We're September bank. 679 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: Well, that being said, Okay, Well, let's let's let's project it. 680 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: Let's say, you know, it's a it's another week of 681 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: practice for Jamar Chase. We're going back to normal here. Uh, 682 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: let's say the T Higgins he had a hamstring, he 683 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: was out last week. Chance already doesn't play this week. 684 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: So let's approach this game is that we're gonna get 685 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase and that's it. Is that enough there for 686 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: this six to be comfortable for you? 687 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: I just like the under just when when teams go 688 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: to Arrowhead, they just usually don't score them many points, 689 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: Like that's usually what happens in our Last week was 690 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: a little bit different with Lamar, but he rushed for 691 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 2: over one hundred yards in that game. It's it's different. 692 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: It's different here. So I like the over und Yeah, 693 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: forty seven, that's really high. Why should we be confident 694 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: the Bengals are going to come in and score a 695 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: ton of points. I don't think we should be confident 696 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: that they're going to do that, especially with the Burrow 697 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 2: thing man. They kept panting into him during that game 698 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: in the sideline, like doing weird things with his wrist, 699 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: like it was a weird injury last year and it 700 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: seemed like everything was okay. But again with the Chase thing, 701 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: does he need to get He's gonna get his contract now? 702 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 3: Like what's going on? So just I think I think 703 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: I just like the under the most. 704 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: Fair enough, Since you like a lot of the Bengals 705 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: in the preseason stuff we did, you know for Super 706 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: Bowl for you know, Joe Burrow MVP and all that stuff, 707 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: I think you might want to wait till after this 708 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: game and if they lose again, you might get some 709 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: really nice numbers on OHAU. 710 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 3: Remember it is only this is what they always do, though, 711 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 3: like this is they always do. 712 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: I wish I waited, you know, did you wait? Those 713 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: numbers are going to be real juicy in about the 714 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: right around my birthday. It's gonna be fun. Happy birthday 715 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: to me and Andrew Rickson, Pittsburgh and Denver. The Steelers 716 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: grind out and I mean grind out a victory and 717 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: we don't know who's gonna be quarterback next week. Russell 718 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: Wilson was inactive, but he was completely suited up to play. 719 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: I just classic Russell Wilson, classic Russ. You gotta love 720 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: that guy. Uh So they are two and a half 721 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: point favorites on the road in Denver, bow Nicks complete 722 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: turnover machine thirty seven and a half plus one twenty 723 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: eight for Denver on the money line. I'll say this 724 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: my favorite moment besides the Anthony Richards an amazing throw 725 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: was the bow Nicks throwing in a triple coverage where 726 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: the announcer said, as soon as he let go of 727 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: the ball, the color commentator went no. I just literally said, 728 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: oh no. And then the ball was like halfway to 729 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: where he was throwing it. And I watched it several 730 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: times and it kept getting funnier every time I saw it. TJ. 731 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: Watt is going to make this a long day. I 732 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: love this two and a half on Pittsburgh. I don't 733 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: think this is enough. I just don't. What do you think? 734 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just I guess I'm concerned if to try 735 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 2: to force us into playing because it's a wee bit. 736 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: Look, I don't think it matters. I don't think it matters. 737 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: I think bo Knicks is so limited and I think 738 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: he is so mistake prone. And Mike Tomlin's defense is 739 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: going to be ready to rock, and they're confident they will. 740 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: They were in Atlanta that were terrible towels everywhere. TJ. 741 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: Watt was wreaking havoc. I think it's gonna be a 742 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: long day at the office for bon Knicks. I love 743 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: defensive touchdown for the Pittsburgh Steelers in this game. I'd 744 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: be betting that wherever I can get it. But I'm 745 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: definitely on the steers on this one. And I've already 746 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: bet this one too on betting pros. 747 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't argue with that. 748 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 2: I mean, we were not huge bow Knicks fans, and 749 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: people came after us because of how good look at 750 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: the preseason and we're like, well, let's wait till the 751 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: regular season starts, and what do you know, it's a 752 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: little bit different. 753 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 3: So okay, just a little. 754 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: It's a wee bit different. All right, let's go to 755 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: another rookie quarterback. This one's gonna be in primetime. Caleb 756 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: Williams and the Bears are six and a half point 757 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: underdogs going to Houston. That feels right to me. Forty 758 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: six is the number plus two forty for Chicago. So 759 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,959 Speaker 1: this is a dangerous game because you know, primetime, Caleb 760 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: did not look great the Houston Texans. We're in a 761 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: bit of a dogfight there, with a division rival. Now 762 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna go home. Theoretically, if you struggle against the 763 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: Titans and the things break your way and you win, 764 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: you should get crushed on the road by Houston. Theoretically, 765 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm in on the Texans, and I'm gonna stick with 766 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: that logic and theory for now. It would not surprise 767 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: me if Chicago covered. They might be one of these 768 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: teams this year, all year that just finds these weird 769 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: ways to keep the games closed. But until further notice, 770 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: until I get a little bit more of that, I'm 771 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: gonna take what happened yesterday with a grand assault, and 772 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna like Houston in this game, despite the fact 773 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: that six and a half forty six is the total 774 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: again plus two to forty on the money line for 775 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: the Bears. What do you what's your take on this? 776 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: Do you like the under a lot because you have 777 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback making his first start on the road, primetime, 778 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 2: hostile environment the Texans art, are they feel good right now? 779 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: And what did they show us like yesterday that they 780 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 2: want to run the football? They gave the ball to 781 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: Joe Mixon thirty times. That doesn't scream, Oh they're going 782 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 2: to put up thirty five points in this game against 783 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:15,479 Speaker 2: the Bears. 784 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 3: I just don't see that. 785 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 2: So I think that Williams is going to again saw 786 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: the struggles early on and they weren't even close to 787 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 2: covering that game. If it weren't for two, you know, 788 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: a special team's touchdown and a defensive touchdown, they would 789 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 2: have been closed. So I think we're going to see 790 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: things regrets. 791 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: That was the other one too, But I was like, 792 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm watching this game of like the Titans are going 793 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: to cover. I was look, but I agreed with him. 794 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: I will look, well, our wins are our wins, our 795 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: l's are our l's. This is how we roll here. 796 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: It's it's a process thing, right, and that we own it. 797 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: That was a bad being. Like when Will Levis threw 798 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: that ball as he was being sacked, I was just 799 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: I hung my head down and was just shaking my head. 800 00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: I was like, and this is why Will Levis as 801 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: Will Levis like that kind of crap that you could 802 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: try to get away with when you're playing you know, 803 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: in Kentucky or whatever the hell, Like, you just can't 804 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: get away with that stuff here. You can't get away 805 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: with that stuff in the NFL. That stuff loses your games. 806 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: Just eat the sack, bro, What are you doing there? 807 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: Because if he eats the sack, guess what they probably 808 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: cover that game. They probably do like it's it's gonna 809 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: be fine, everything's gonna be fine. Week one, well it 810 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: was good bad. A lot of good in week one though, 811 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: a lot of good in week one, So don't want 812 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: to let those up. Other couple of things. But what's 813 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: more frustrating is when you see it and you know 814 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: it's going in that direction and then somebody like hands 815 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: it back like that's the front, like Gardner Minshew kicking 816 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: that ball? You know, like, what are you doing there? Like? 817 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: Was he trying to tucket? Was he trying to throw? 818 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: What the hell was going on there? 819 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 3: I was? 820 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: Was it? 821 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? What was that to? Was that the two saves? 822 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 1: No, the Seattle game had the two safeties? Like that's 823 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: another way to score stuff. Who's coming out to close 824 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: this one? 825 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 4: All? 826 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 1: Right? Last one here? Monday night football, the Eagles Seguon 827 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: Barkley with a little bit of extra rest love that 828 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: he looked great. Uh, give the ball to Saquon and 829 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: get out of the way. Against Atlanta Falcons, the Eagle 830 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: is a six point favorites. It's a pretty hefty number there, 831 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: but I can't argue with it compared to like you 832 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: saw a lot of an aptitude with Atlanta. Maybe a 833 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: little bit more time in practice gets everybody together. I 834 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: think you saw. Unfortunately, this is what happens when you 835 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: don't get your preseason reps together and your quarterbacks coming 836 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: off an injury. It's gonna look crappy. It's just gonna 837 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: look bad. Hence, Wow, I'm concerned about the Jets tonight. 838 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: That being said, forty eight and a half is the 839 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 1: number plus two twenty four Atlanta. Your thoughts here, Andrew 840 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,959 Speaker 1: Erickson on Monday Night, Week two. 841 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 3: Totals are way too high forty eight and a half. 842 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 2: Again, I don't think we're gonna see this Falcons offense 843 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 2: firing at least a couple of weeks into the season. 844 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,439 Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna be one week and they're 845 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 2: gonna help good to go like this will be fine. 846 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna be the case. And you 847 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 2: were talking about how Talkin's defense, you don't think is 848 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 2: that is that bad? 849 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 3: Right? 850 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,959 Speaker 2: They were able to contain a mobile quarterback in justin 851 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 2: field stealing Hurts is a mobile quarterback. You didn't really 852 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 2: see the Steelers again a team that they're going to 853 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 2: establish the run. They're gonna be a great running team. 854 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 2: You know, nause wasn't overly efficient anyway. I get like 855 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 2: Barkley's better than Nausey, but I just don't see forty 856 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 2: eight and a half. This is This would be the 857 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 2: line if the Falcons came out and we're firing on 858 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 2: all cylinders against the Steelers, right, this would be the line. 859 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 2: But they did it, so I don't understand where it's 860 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 2: too high for me. 861 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: There you have it, everybody. So that is the early 862 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: look at Week two in the NFL. 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