1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Welcome in another episode OG Podcast. I am your host 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: nd Kalou and one of the original, one of the 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: real OG's my homeboy, Fred Weary Houston original Houston Texan. 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, two thousand and two, I was 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: in Philly. That was the first year of the Texas 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: right for two. 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: Thousand and two first draft class man also two thousand 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: and two first season. 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: You know, so you a true OG when it comes 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: to the OG podcast. So, you know what, there's so 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: much to talk about with what you're doing today, what's 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: going on with the Houston Texans. Former teammate Tomko Ryan's 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: leading the way doing some great things. Let's talk about 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: that year though. Let's talk about you have an all 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: SEC career at Tennessee. You know you're going high. We 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: just had the draft. Talk about leading up to the 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: draft for you, like what was the thought, where were 18 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: you expected to go? What was some of things being said? 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: Then finish it with draft day for you. 20 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: Man, was a lot of talk because it was several, 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: you know, offensive lineman guard type players that were coming 22 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: out their year. Man Terrence Metcalf out of Old Miss Shucks, 23 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: Kendall Simmons out of out of all brand they had 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: a Hawaiian god forgot his name for Nodi coming out 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: of Nebraska and whatnot. So, I mean, the Texans was 26 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: my only visit. Oh really right, A lot of teams expressed, 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: you know, a lot of interests during that process, but 28 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: you know, Miami, Baltimore, Pittsburgh and all that stuff, and 29 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 2: they did end up drafting lineman and all that stuff. 30 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: I actually had got a call from Baltimore in the 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: second round saying that hey, if I was still available, 32 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: that they were going to take me and all that stuff. 33 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: But man, came on my visit here with the Texans. 34 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: I met with Tony Marchiono, who was the offensive line 35 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: coach at the time, met with Charlie Cashley at the time. 36 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: They flew me in and you know, it was a 37 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: pretty pretty good visit and all and stuff. They put 38 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: me on the board. You know, see what I know 39 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: about football. You know, hey, hey, can you draw this 40 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: play up? Can you tell them? You know, hey, what 41 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: everybody's doing. So it was a fun process. 42 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: Man. 43 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: Draft day, Man, it was just you know, me and 44 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: my family, you know, and being from Montgomery, Alabama and 45 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: all that stuff. It was a special moment from them. 46 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: Man. 47 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: I think we did some lead quarters on the barbecue 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: kid man and Just and then just lead quarter some 49 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: ribs and stuff. Man and Just you know, had just 50 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: a good time with the family that day. I really wasn't, 51 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: you know, stressing too much about the draft. I mean, 52 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: I knew, you know, at some point I would go, 53 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to be one of them guys, 54 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: you know, thinking, hey, I'm finna go first round and 55 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: first round go, and second round go and all that stuff. 56 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: You know, Like I had told my agent that day, man, 57 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: just you know, hey went over that call comes his 58 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: destined to come. 59 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: So it came in the third round. 60 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: I was sitting there between my mom and my dad 61 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: and stuff, and it was just, you know, just a 62 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: surreal moment. All the hard work, you know, uh, you know, 63 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: things that we went through as a family growing up 64 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 2: and all and stuff. 65 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: So it was just really just one of those. 66 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: Like, you know, impactful days for not only me, for 67 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: family as well. 68 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: And then now you don't want to ask, like when 69 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: we talk about the kids that were just drafted in 70 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: this past draft, you don't ever want to ask them 71 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: who was your dream team? But now that you've had 72 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: your successful career and you are og did you have 73 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: a team that you were secretly hoping would have been 74 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: on the other line of that call? 75 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 2: Not not necessarily and all the stuff. I mean, I 76 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: you know, got to know ozen knew some pretty well. 77 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: You know who was the I guess he was the 78 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: GM or in player player scouting, you know, with the 79 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: Ravens at the time. Uh, you know, I talked to 80 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: them a lot during the Senior Bowl. They you know, 81 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: interviewed me a lot during the Senior Bowl. I actually thought, 82 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: like I said, I thought that they were going to 83 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: you know, make a push in drafting. They called that, 84 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: you know on draft day, you know, uh, right before 85 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: they got ready to pick in the second round, and 86 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: you told my agent that, you know, hey, if I 87 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: was still there, you know, they were going to draft me. 88 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: So I kind of had got my hopes up. And 89 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: then when they went another direction, it was. 90 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: Like, okay, you know what, I'm glad you brought that up, 91 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: because that annoyed the heck out of me. 92 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: There's no reason to even make that call. It happened 93 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: to me. 94 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was in the fifth round, and for 95 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: whatever reason, Cincinnati said, man, we really want you, but 96 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: we don't think you're going to pass the third round. 97 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: So I'm watching the draft and I was kind of like, you, yeah, 98 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: my thought, and you know, I went to rights out Tennessee, 99 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,679 Speaker 1: so I was just thinking, just give me an a camp. 100 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: But when you start to hear that, you start thinking 101 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: maybe it could happen. So when they said that, then 102 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: Cincinnati they go through the third round, the fourth round, 103 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, why the hell would you even 104 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: tell me that. It's not like a college or recruiting 105 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: where you're trying to so for you to hear that 106 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: as well, I just don't understand why they would get 107 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: players hopes up when they don't have to exactly. 108 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: Man, I mean, my anxiety kind of, you know went 109 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: up because I knew I had been, you know, talking 110 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: with them, although I didn't go on a visit there, 111 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: you know, And it was actually surprising, I mean, you know, 112 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: when the when the Texans drafted me, although that was 113 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: my only you know visit that I had took, you know, 114 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 2: uh during that process. Man, it kind of surprised me 115 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 2: that they they had drafted me and all that stuff. 116 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: All right, So you go from one southern town to another. 117 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: But obviously Houston is a little bit different than Montgomery, Alabama. 118 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: What was the biggest culture shock for you when you 119 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: arrive here? 120 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: Oh man? The traffic. The traffic was the you know, 121 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 3: the biggest thing. 122 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, even little when my time in Knoxville, 123 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: you know, and then I have to really deal with 124 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: a whole lot of traffic like that and all because 125 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: you can go through the back roads and just like 126 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: in Alabama and Montgomery. You know, it's but man, when 127 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 2: I got here, man, the traffic was really the culture 128 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: shock to me and all that stuff, you know, being 129 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: from you know, Montgomery, not a whole lot of traffic. 130 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 3: I've been through cities like. 131 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: Atlanta just passing, but never you know, stayed there and 132 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: all to have to deal with the you know that 133 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: traffic and stuff like that. So the traffic was the 134 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: what's the was the first day and they got me. 135 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: Uh man, this this is crazy too because on my 136 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: way here it was raining, all right, and my first 137 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 2: time ever because I came came off of I t 138 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 2: you know, coming from Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and all that stuff, 139 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: and I came to the I came over to Port 140 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: and I'm like I've never seen a bridge that tall, 141 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: and it was raining on both sides. I couldn't see 142 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 2: out the windows. I was by myself, man, and so 143 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm just slow rolling up. 144 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 3: That thing, like okay, okay, okay, my anxiety. 145 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, that was a funny story story, man, 146 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: when I first came here, when I first drove down 147 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: here for OTAs and stuff to get started. 148 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: Now, tell the truth, with the traffic and you not 149 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: being used to it, how many meetings were you late to? 150 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: I wasn't late that the meetings. I stayed right right 151 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: there in Maryland and all that stuff that was. Yeah, 152 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: they put us there during ot as when we when 153 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: we when I first came here. So that's where we 154 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: stayed during OTA's, me and Chester actually and man Chuck's 155 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: Maryland right behind the wallmark right there on six ten 156 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: South Post Oke. Manchester went over there one day. The 157 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: apartments was just opened up. They were brand new, and 158 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: we went ahead and got an apartment right there too. 159 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: Once we got done with OTA's, you know, you know, 160 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: went to training camp and that's Chester Pitts right Chester Pitch. 161 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: So was that his first was that the same draft class? 162 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 163 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Chester I was picked before me and I 164 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: was first pick in the third round for the Texan. 165 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: And he was second round offensive tackles. So there was 166 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: obviously an emphasis on on the trenches on the offensive line. 167 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: I personally, and I've said this before, I'm not saying 168 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: it because you're here, I think that's the most important 169 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: position groups on the football team, because a good offensive 170 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: line could make a good running back look great, It 171 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: could make an average running back look good. It could 172 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: do the same for a quarterback when you buy a time. 173 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: So I definitely feel like you can't draft off offensive lineman. 174 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: With that being said, the Texans is year use the 175 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: seventh round pick for Ladarius Henderson, guard out of Michigan. 176 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: You work with young aspiring football players you played at 177 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: the highest level. If you had a chance to spend 178 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: a couple of days with him, what would be some 179 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: of the things you would work with? 180 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: Man, Just understand, you know, leverage of this part of 181 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: the game and all and stuff, and you know you 182 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: have to anchor a little more. And you know, I 183 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: played against you know, defensive lineman like Gary Walker, you 184 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: know who big, strong and can move fast and quick, 185 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: and I mean played against you and all that stuff. 186 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 2: So I mean, but it's a kind of a defensive 187 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: lineman are doing a lot of different things, you know, 188 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: to perfect their craft, and so as offensive lineman, you 189 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: got to continue to, you know, work on your craft 190 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: as well. One of the things that I did, and 191 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: I talked with Darnelle Wright, who was at the University 192 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 2: of Tennessee. He was the first round for the Chicago 193 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: Bears last year. I spent some time with him, you know, 194 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: when I went back from games and stuff and talk 195 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: with him. Boxing was a big help for me and 196 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: all that stuff in the off season because obviously, you know, 197 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: we use our hands a lot and all that stuff. 198 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 2: So man, when I got into boxing, it not only 199 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: helped me from a physical standpoint, get my way down 200 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: and those type of things, but it just helped, you know, 201 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: the I hand coordination and then also you know, as 202 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: an offensive linean, you have to move your hands independently 203 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: and all that stuff you can't because defensive linemen, you know, 204 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 2: where his chopped rip swims and all that type of 205 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 2: stuff that you got to deal with. You got to 206 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: be able to get those hands back in place as well. 207 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: So boxing really helped me, you know, as a young 208 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: offensive lineman, you know, get better at that. 209 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: You know, that's the first time I've heard about obviously, 210 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: defensive line decide. I'm used to we you know, some 211 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: of us took some karate classes judo, But that's actually 212 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: the first time I've heard an offensive lineman talk about boxing. 213 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: So did you get with an actual boxing trainer and 214 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 1: did he teach you as if you were going to 215 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: fight or did he try to cater his workout to 216 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: fit you being a football player? 217 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 3: I mean, whatever, whatever he did. 218 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: And I actually the trainer I used was Frank Tate. Man, 219 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: he's a gold medalist and all that stuff, and so hey, 220 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: he worked with me just like hey, he he would 221 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: be working any boxer to get ready and stuff. And 222 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: he had some you know boxer see that he was training, 223 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: you know during that time and stuff. So man, it 224 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: was a it was a great opportunity you know for 225 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: me and stuff. And I mean I like challenges like 226 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: that because you know, you want to kind of you know, 227 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I was a sucks multiple sport athlete in 228 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: high school, so you know, getting away from the game 229 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: doing some things different, you know, it's sometimes good. And 230 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 2: I think that's you know why. I had a mindset that, 231 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 2: you know, boxing was gonna be good for me. 232 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny about that I worked out. I 233 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: didn't do the boxing workout, but I worked out with 234 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: the boxer when I was playing in San Antonio, Jesse 235 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: James Lehigh and we had a football trainer training us, 236 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: but he would also train the boxer, Jesse James. Then 237 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: we're all talking trash, is myself, Priest Holmes, Eric Eric Brown, 238 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: you know for Houston, Texan ambassador h But one day 239 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: we're just all talking trash, like who are the better athletes? 240 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: So you know where this is going. So Jesse James 241 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: is real calmed. It's all man, Why don't you'll just 242 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: come through one of my workouts and by the third 243 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: round when I say, I was tapping out and not 244 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: because somebody was whooping my ass, but because that workout 245 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: and your shoulders just burned because you have to keep 246 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: them fists in front of you. I've always had a 247 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: respect for boxers, but I had a whole new respect 248 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: just for their training regimen. 249 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's you know, and I did it all, 250 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: you know, from the jump ropes, speed bag to the 251 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: ad workout. You know, hey, dropping the medicine ball on 252 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 2: it and all, you know, working abs. And I also, 253 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: you know, like I said, I trained with Frank Tate 254 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: here and then when I went home for my girmery, 255 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: so that was a part of my regimen. And so 256 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: I used another trainer and so you got the experience 257 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: that that difference from another trainer and what they do 258 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: to work on you know, boxes and stuff, man, and 259 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: so you know, it was just a good time and 260 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: I was, you know, happy that I decided now also 261 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: that I found those guys to be able to you know, 262 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: do the training and stuff with me. 263 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: So somebody tested you on the streets, would you use 264 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: what they showed you? 265 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: Like looking at that. 266 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: I mean when I was in there, I wasn't just 267 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 2: in there working football. I'm working look at him. Hey, 268 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: this this is all the way around and all this stuff. 269 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: And I mean Frank he even did like anti you know, 270 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: he had an anti bullying you know class and stuff, 271 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 2: and they had some of the younger kids and stuff 272 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: to come in not just to you know, teach them 273 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: how to fight, but learn how to just hey man, 274 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 2: you got to use mental tough because that's that's what 275 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: boxing is all about It's about mental toughness. I mean, 276 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: I was a wrestling in high school and it's the 277 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: same thing. I mean, you got to be you know, 278 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 2: in those situations when it's just you, you know, you 279 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 2: got to be mentally tough to be able to handle 280 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: you know, whatever coming towards you. 281 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: Not just a wrestler three times state champion. That okay. 282 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: So so so you wrestled three times state champion, You 283 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: trained as a boxer, you played multiple years in the NFL. 284 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: At any time, did you think should I go? And 285 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: I actually thought about it. I actually thought about. 286 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: It because I a part of you know, because Frank 287 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: they trained not only boxers, they had some. 288 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 3: MMA guys as well. 289 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 2: And one of the guys who was training for MMA, 290 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: he found out that I was a wrestler and all 291 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: that stuff I got talked about, and so I used 292 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 2: to work with him, you know, just on the the 293 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: grappling aspect and all that stuff. So we used to 294 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: work out, and you know, then I would go, we would, 295 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: you know, wrestled just to help him kind of train 296 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: him and stuff, you know, on just grappling and understanding 297 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: how to play from the ground and stuff. 298 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: But you know, wrestling was huge for me. 299 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: I mean as a as a lineman, I played both 300 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: offense and defensive linement and high school man wrestling man 301 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: just teaches you so much about leverage and all that stuff, 302 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 2: and I mean, you know, I think it's it's great 303 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: for any young athlete as well, and all that stuff. 304 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 2: I know a lot of the schools here in Texas 305 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: where in the Houston area don't you know, have wrestling. 306 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: But you know, if you get in a good wrestling program, 307 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: that's always good, especially for a lineman. I think any 308 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: defensive linemen, full backs, any position, and all that stuff 309 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: in football. 310 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: So let's go back because you retire and we still 311 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine percent of the guys once you retire, 312 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: you still have those competitive juices. You still want to 313 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: go out there and use your body to make ends meet. 314 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: How long did the thought last? Like should I go 315 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: into MMA? Should I go into UFC? Like did you 316 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: have day did you daydream about being the next UFC 317 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: heavyweight Champion? 318 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it didn't really go too far and 319 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: all that stuff, because you know, I mean because even 320 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: during through the Box and they used to talk about 321 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: you know, spart I think sucks who was Antoine Peak. Yeah, 322 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: that came in and uh he's far as somebody one 323 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: day and all this stuff. But I just, you know, hey, 324 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: I man, I just didn't didn't really kind of, you know, 325 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: feel like that. 326 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I've already been hit ahead enough. I heard. 327 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 3: I heard that. 328 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: All right, let's move up in the draft. One of 329 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: the second round picks. For those listening, most of you know, 330 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans did not have a first round pick, 331 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: but they had two second round picks. Kamari Lassiter was 332 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: the first pick cornerback out of Georgia and the second 333 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: pick offensive tackle out of Notre Dame Blake Fisher. Just 334 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: kind of thoughts, not so much on Blake Fisher. I'm 335 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: not saying breakdown, but drafting an offensive tackle with your 336 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: second overall pick. 337 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: As an organization, man. 338 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: That's I mean, you win football games in the trenches. 339 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: I mean, whether that's on the offense or defensive line. 340 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta make sure that you're you know, 341 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: taking care of that's a that's a necessity, you know 342 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: what I mean, because those guys quarterbacks, running backs, receivers, 343 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: they can't do anything if you don't have those guys 344 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: to take care of the business up front. I like 345 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: the second pick, the kid from Notre Dame. I mean, 346 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: one of the things that jumped right out at me, 347 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: man is you know, hey, man, he knows how to 348 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: sit and play releverage and all that stuff. And so 349 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: as a former offensive line with myself, when I'm see 350 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: those you know, watch guys on film, I mean, those 351 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: are the things that I'm looking for, you know what 352 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: I mean. He plays with me being, he plays with 353 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: power and all that stuff. And so I think that 354 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: was a you know, a great pick for them and 355 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: all that stuff. And I think he'll probably you know, 356 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: potentially come in and you know, be a. 357 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 3: Push some guys. He's gonna push. 358 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: Hey, Well, this's I mean, you know, it's moving chairs sometimes, 359 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: that offensive line and stuff. So you gotta I mean, 360 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: that's the thing about having a good offensive front. Hey, 361 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: it's like putting a puzzle together, you know. I gotta 362 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: make make sure all the pieces fit and all that stuff. So, hey, 363 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: it may be some may be some moving around him. 364 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: And if he comes in and you know, take care 365 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: of his business and do the things that he's supposed 366 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: to do, grow as a grow as a pro football player, 367 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: and you know and and grow early and all that stuff. 368 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: I think that that's a that's a be a good 369 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: fit for him on his offensive line. 370 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: Here's what I like about that pick with Blake Fisher, 371 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: offensive tackle of Notre Dame. Look, people don't want to 372 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: say it because of the successful season, and we forget. 373 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: We have to be reminded the best team you competed 374 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: at every position. So Blake Fisher's coming in here saying, 375 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: Titus Howard, I'm gonna respect you. 376 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 3: I'm trying to take your spot. 377 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: You know he's gonna come in here and say green 378 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: whether they if they bumped me down as a guard. 379 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: You know, I respect you, but I'm trying to take 380 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: your spot. And you want good players, like you said, 381 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: guys that jump out on screen on the screen to be, 382 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, competing against one another. So when they drafted him, 383 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: I didn't know much about him, but I knew I 384 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: was gonna be talking to you, so I was okay, good, 385 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: I can find out. But I knew this wasn't a 386 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: guy that, oh, let's draft him to be a swing tackle. 387 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 1: It's like, no, it's a stir up. I think outside 388 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: of Lammie Tunsel, everybody out there should be fighting for 389 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: a job. 390 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 3: I mean, heck, you look back. I mean shucks. 391 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: When man and Chester were drafted, you know, I mean 392 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: did we know that we because we looking at suck. 393 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: They got Tonable Sel in the room. You got Steve 394 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: mckennie in the room, Jeremy McKenny who was you know, 395 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 2: a long time NFL player, Ryan Young. You know, we 396 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: had guys like that in the room. And you know 397 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: opening day, you know, Manchester starting as rookies and all 398 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 2: that stuff. And that's the you know, mentality that we 399 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: came in with to you know, hey, we're not just 400 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 2: in just coming in here, no matter where we were 401 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 2: drafted in all this stuff. 402 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's business as usual. Let's go out here. 403 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: And you know, we worked our way through OTA, through 404 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 2: many camps, through OTAs and through training camp and you know, 405 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 2: next thing, you know, hey, we're starting day one. 406 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: It's kind of cool that you came into an organization 407 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: that hadn't played one game yet, but that's all you knew. 408 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: So I was gonna ask you, like, did it feel 409 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: like you were in a startup organization? 410 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 3: Nah? 411 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: I mean Texas and Texans have already been the first 412 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: class organization. We came in, we had a lot of 413 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 2: veteran leadership, Aaron Glenn, like I said, I mentioned Gary 414 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: Walker earlier. I mean had Tony Busel even though he 415 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: didn't get on the field in all that stuff, but 416 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: we were able to lean on those guys and everything 417 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 2: and stuff. I mean Billy Miller Man, it's a Chris Brown. 418 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 2: I mean, we had Eric Brown. I mean, we had 419 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 2: a list of guys that have been Ryan young Man, 420 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 2: I can go down the list. We had a a 421 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: for rookie class coming in, We had a we were 422 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: surrounded by a lot of veteran leadership. Although you know, hey, 423 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 2: yes the Texans was in that first season, in that 424 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 2: locker room, it didn't feel that way. And that's you know, 425 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: I always go back to that, you know when when 426 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 2: people you know ask about you know, hey, maybe the 427 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: wins wasn't there. But you know, you can never question 428 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: that locker room. You can never question where we went 429 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 2: out there and played hard. You can never question you know, 430 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: any work ethic about you know, things in the locker 431 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: room were never at each other. Next in the locker 432 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: room because we came in with a lot of veteran 433 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: guys and that you know, showed us a lot of 434 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: veteran leadership and all at that time. 435 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: You say, the wins weren't there, but there was a 436 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: huge win that resonated throughout the entire NFL. And it's 437 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: almost like these crazy historic events, like you remember where 438 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: you were when you heard about OJA. Well, I remember 439 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: where I was when I heard the Texans beat the 440 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys opening game and we're sitting in the locker 441 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: room in Philadelphia and we're all looking around like, hey, man, 442 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: you see what them boys in Houston then, So you 443 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: were there on the field just kind of talk about 444 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: how special that was. 445 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: Man. 446 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 2: It was, Man, it was very special. I mean it's 447 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: you know, a lot led up to that. I mean, 448 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: of course, we scrimmaged them. They came down here to Houston. 449 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: We practiced against them, you know during the preseason. I 450 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: mean during training camp. I think we were over at 451 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: I guess it was you of age, older field and 452 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: we you know, had the and they literally just you know, 453 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: they milly wopped us. 454 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 455 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 2: Practice well, I wouldn't say during the week of practice, 456 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 2: but that scrimmage we had that night, it was just 457 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: like we I mean, they were on like they were 458 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: playing in the Super Bowl, you know, you know what 459 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 2: I mean. I mean, again, you don't take any time 460 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: you step on that field, you don't take that for granted. 461 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 2: But you know that scrimmage that night, they brought a 462 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: little bit more to the table. I would say, uh, 463 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: I mean I remember one play. I forget who the 464 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: defensive end was, but they ran an et stunt and 465 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the defensive end just literally just ear 466 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: holed me. 467 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: And I mean it's just like. 468 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, and you know, we kind of picked 469 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: ourselves up, you know, as a as a football team 470 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 2: and said that you know, hey, we can't compete with them. 471 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: I mean because you know, throughout the week of practice 472 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 2: it was you know, it was I mean it was 473 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 2: just like what and what and all and stuff and 474 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 2: so but man, just man, that first game, just the 475 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 2: electricity in the building. I think that really, you know, 476 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 2: I mean we were coming in that game pissed off 477 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: from that, you know, from that that that scrimmage and 478 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: just the you know, things that they were doing and 479 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 2: and you know it was just just their annex and 480 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 2: all that stuff. I mean, you know, look, hey we 481 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: got something for that all stuff. I mean, but the 482 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: electricity that was in I mean, you know, Sunday night football. 483 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 2: I mean, I can't exactly remember how long you know, 484 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: football hadn't been in Houston before we played that game. Man, 485 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: but the fans brought just so much energy and all 486 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: that stuff, man, that night, and it I think it elevated. 487 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: It elevated all of our play and all that stuff. 488 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: And once we got in there and you know, they 489 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: were in our house at that point and all that stuff, 490 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: and it really felt that way and all that night 491 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: and so man, it was just one of that that 492 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: was a man, that was It was great to get 493 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: that w against you know, America, a so called America's 494 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 2: team that night and everything and stuff. I mean, you know, 495 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: I think we kind of, you know, came out and 496 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: made a statement, but it kind of started back, you know, 497 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: when we worked out against them, you know, during training 498 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 2: camp and stuff. So you know, we kind of took 499 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 2: you know, that bad taste in our mouth and we 500 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: made sure we took it to the field that that 501 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 2: Sunday night. 502 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 3: That's an awesome story. 503 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that y'all had it hands to the 504 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: dual practices during training camp and then that's kind of 505 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: when they try to flex on y'all, But when the 506 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: game actually mattered, y'all said, okay, we've got something. So 507 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: I know that's a special feeling. What would that game 508 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: rank in your top five all time as far as 509 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: special victories high school college, I know there's a lot 510 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: of them. 511 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that make the top five. 512 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: Man, definitely something I mean just to you know, just 513 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: just the I mean just how we we went about 514 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 2: doing it. Everything that built up to that moment, you know, 515 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: being the first you know, sucks. I mean, rookie start 516 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: for me, you know, I think, yes, that's that's definitely 517 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: you know, ranks ranks, ranks up there. I mean, of course, 518 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, winning the national championship at University 519 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: Tennessee is always that was a special. 520 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 3: That's why I said top five. There was a couple 521 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 3: that were going to be ahead of that. 522 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I definitely give that that that moment 523 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: being the Cowboys, that first game, man, that was that's 524 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: definitely number two. 525 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: Talk talk about because it's not every day you get 526 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: a chance to talk to a national champion, So just 527 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: talk about that season. It wasn't one of those special 528 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: seasons before the year started, you thought to yourself, you 529 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: know what, we might have something special here. What was 530 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: that like the year? 531 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 3: First? 532 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: Give us the year I read it, but I want 533 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: to make sure I've been right and you know just 534 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: what it was like. 535 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was ninety eight, you know, of course. I 536 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: mean I think sports media roar world had you know, 537 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: written Tennessee off after Peyton left and all this stuff, 538 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 2: had t Martin coming in as the new quarterback and 539 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: all that stuff. But you know, again, leadership in the 540 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 2: locker room. I mean guys like Al Wilson, Jonathan Brown, 541 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 2: Peerless Price. You know, we came in as freshly myself, 542 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 2: Jamal Lewis, Cozy Cob and Dia and Grant. So I 543 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: mean we again came with the mindset that we want 544 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: to work and be a part of something special and 545 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 2: all that stuff. 546 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 3: And that's what it was all about. Just a commitment 547 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 3: by the. 548 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: Team, you know, just a team, a collective team effort 549 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 2: and all that stuff. So, uh man, that was my 550 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: what red shirt red shirt freshman year. I was dealing 551 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: with an injury, all that funny story about that. I 552 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: played all season long, all right. I when I first 553 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: got to Tennessee, I I had a stress fracture in 554 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: my I guess baby to a fifth meta tarsl the 555 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: stuff that I ended up you know, having surger of 556 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: putting the screw in and whatnot and stuff, and you know, 557 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 2: set out for half of the season that year and 558 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: I ended up having coming back. Probably I think we're 559 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: getting ready to play old Miss. One of the defensive tackles. 560 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 2: My first day back out at practice and. 561 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 3: No. 562 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: One of the defensive tackles to start defense tackle Billy Ratliffe. 563 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 2: I ended up, you know, he got hurt in practice 564 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 2: and all that stuff. So initially I was just supposed 565 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: to come out there, you know, kind of gradually, you know, 566 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: start getting back in maybe you know, a couple of weeks, 567 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 2: we're going you know, get him to you know, maybe 568 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: get him some reps and get him back out on 569 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: the field. And I'm over there with the trainer. You know, 570 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: we're just doing some you know, just like jogging, getting 571 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: off the football, working with the trainer, and Billy Billy 572 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 2: gets hurt and I hear coach fullmer stream across the field. 573 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: It's Fred Ready, and so the trainer, Hey, it's a 574 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 2: true story, man, it's Fred Ready. I was like whoa, 575 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 2: what is he ready? It's my first day back out 576 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: of practice. But hey, I knew the sense of urgency. 577 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: I wasn't going to say no, you know what I mean. 578 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: So we go to pass rush and all that stuff. Man, 579 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: and so I'm like, I'm emped up, you know what 580 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm about to get in you know, I 581 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 2: go from you know, I had to go to one 582 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 2: hundred real quick and all that stuff. 583 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: So I go in the pass rush. 584 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: Man, I ended up putting a move and Ben in 585 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: the corner and stuff, being the being the lineman and all, 586 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 2: and I man, I. 587 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 3: Came up ripped up under that thing. Man, I felt 588 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: that thing. 589 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 2: So I broke the I ended up breaking my foot 590 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: again and yeah, and also bent the screw in it. 591 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 3: Wow. And so uh, man I played banks coach. 592 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 2: And so that national championship year, I played, you know, 593 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: all season long and all with that, and uh, it's 594 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: crazy part about it. Man, I played all the way 595 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 2: to the SEC championship game. We were playing Mississippi State. Uh, 596 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 2: we get an interception and because I had, you know, 597 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 2: been hurting my foot so much, you know, instead of 598 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 2: planning and turning and going and getting downfield and go 599 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: to block. You can see me on Fielm. I go 600 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: a whole circle just so that Cadillac turn that Cadillac 601 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: turn exactly. And we was, you know, in the meaning 602 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 2: and the coaches you know, at that moment, was like, man, 603 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 2: that guy's you know, he's not right and all that stuff. 604 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 3: Man. 605 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: And long story short, man, I ended up coming to 606 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 2: Houston having surgery. I came, he saw doctor Baxter here 607 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: in Houston, so that's ironically right, and ended up having 608 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: that surgery here in Houston to get my foot. But 609 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: you know the sad part about that, I had to 610 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: sit down for the National Championship game. I was like, 611 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: we could have had the surgery after the National Championship 612 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: right out and played all this time. 613 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: And now you want to see if I'm okay, if 614 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm ready to go after my first day back, but 615 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be doing jogging wind Springs. 616 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna ask, is he ready to go? 617 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: But but I hope I wasn't gonna say I'm sure, 618 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: But some of these coaches are jerks. 619 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: I hope they appreciated what you did. Yeah, n they did, man, 620 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: And you know I came. I mean, you know the 621 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: fast forward. I came after I had the surgery for 622 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: them and pulled me in, uh, you know, because they 623 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: were losing a lot of line and they lost Trey 624 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: t Mercedes Hamilton, several jarvig Rito, several other guys on 625 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: the office of line and you know, at that point, 626 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: I just wanted to play football and all that stuff 627 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: I had been dealing with, you know, that injury for 628 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: those two years. And you know, he was like, hey, 629 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: if you want to, you know, move over to the offense. 630 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: My defensive line coach didn't want to let me go 631 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: and all that stuff, but he was like, you know, 632 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: potentially start right away. And you know, so I was like, 633 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: you know, hey, as soon as I get clear of 634 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: the play, you know, hey, we'll try it out and 635 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: all that stuff and the rest is history. 636 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: And you played it in high school too, so it 637 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: wasn't it was. I mean, it was still you playing 638 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: playing high school and playing sec ball too, entirely different, 639 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: but you've gone through some of the drills and you're 640 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: a base right yeah. 641 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: So I mean I played left tackling high school and 642 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: all that stuff. So I mean I was you know, 643 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: pretty again wrestling background, understanding leverage and all that stuff man, 644 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 2: that you know really you know helped me once I, 645 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: you know, decided to move over the offense. 646 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: What one or two drills or bits of advice for 647 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: a young offensive lineman would you give them to learn 648 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: leverage and learn learn the position. Be summed up in flexibility. 649 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: You may get on those hurdles, man, go through those 650 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: hurdles up and under over you know, picking your knees up, uh, 651 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: and stretching and all that stuff. Man, that's I think 652 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: that's the what's the key for me? I was always 653 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: you know, for my size, always considered you know, very 654 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: flexible and all that stuff, and you know, and that's 655 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 2: something that I worked on actually, uh during my uh 656 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 2: pre draft training. You know, that's when kind of yoga 657 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: and different things kind of really started taking off. And 658 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: I just man, I used to stretch every night, you know, 659 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: before I went to sleep and all that stuff, and 660 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: that helped me, you know, get limber. 661 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 3: Uh Man. 662 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: Stretching also helps, I mean in terms of durability, injuries 663 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: and those type of things. So man, just being committed 664 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: to it and you have to be committed to it 665 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 2: and all that stuff. It's one of those things just 666 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: like boxing. If you want to do it, you got 667 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: to be committed to it and all that stuff, you know, 668 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: to get better at it to help it help your crab. 669 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 3: So that's the same thing with stretching. 670 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: So stretching is key, and then just you know, taking 671 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 2: care of your body as well. 672 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: I'll say this about stretching. I keep trying to get 673 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: on the youngsters. I talk to mainly my idiot kids 674 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: about doing the little things, and I always bring up 675 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: stretching because and you've seen it. There'll be so many 676 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: times where you see a flexible guy in a compromising 677 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: position where it looks like, ooh, he probably tore something, 678 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: and then he just pops up. Yeah, it's like, oh, 679 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: he's okay, thank god. And then there'll be other times 680 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: where you know another great athlete who's very tight, it 681 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: doesn't look like he was in that harmful of a position, 682 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: and it's like he tore everything. You know, he tore everything. 683 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: So it's tough to get across. And I was guilty 684 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: of it too, even though I knew you have to 685 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: be flexible. But just like you said, and all it 686 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: takes is fifteen twenty minutes while you're watching TV at 687 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: night in your apartment, dorm room, phone roller. But I'm 688 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: glad you said that because I'm actually gonna be plate 689 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: this part of the podcast for those youngsters that I 690 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: deal with. Because everybody's strong, everybody's fast, most of the 691 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: people are explosive. But it's the ones that are like 692 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: overly flexible and that's it, you know, just do those 693 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: little things. 694 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 3: So I'm glad you said that. And you know another 695 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 3: part of that, man. 696 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 2: You know, when we came up through high school, I mean, 697 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 2: what was all saying, Hey, you can't make the club, 698 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, man, But I learned from 699 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: injury situations, whether it was band walks, you know, those 700 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: things that you do to you know, get yourself back healthy. 701 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 3: Man. 702 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: That became a part of my regiment, you know, as 703 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 2: well and stuff. And you know, I even tell my 704 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: son today he was coming off an injury. I'm like, hey, 705 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: continue to to go and work on that. You just 706 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: don't know how much that helps and improve, you know, 707 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 2: your durability and your ability to stay on the field. 708 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: I want to go back because you talked about winning 709 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: the national championship at Tennessee and it was the year 710 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: after Peyton left, and I remember that because it was 711 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: a year after I got drafted. So I remember watching 712 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: y'all and Tim Martin had a magical year. Did Peyton 713 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: ever come back during the season, and obviously he was 714 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: busy with the Colts, But did he ever show any 715 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: kind of support or was he hating on y'all? Like, 716 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: hold on, how y'all gonna win this when I'm not here? Man? 717 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 2: A lot of people man, you man Peyton, Man, he man, 718 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: phenomenal guy. 719 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 3: I you know what I mean? 720 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 2: Man, Peyton was a phenomenal guy, phenomenal teammate. Uh Peyton 721 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: actually because I was when I was coming out of 722 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,479 Speaker 2: high school. I don't know if this would be a 723 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: recruiting violence, it's pass. But when I was coming out 724 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: of high school, uh, you know, I was torn again 725 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: between Alabama and Auburn and also leaving the state and 726 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: everything and stuff. Man, that was really huge on my 727 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 2: plate and all at the time and stuff. Man, And 728 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 2: as a senior in high school, I got a call 729 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: from Peyton one night and all this stuff and got 730 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: a chance to talk to him and stuff. 731 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 3: That's just the type of guy he is and everything. 732 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: He didn't know me, you know, from anything but new 733 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: you know, just listening probably listening you know, the coaches 734 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 2: and all. Man, this guy's really kind of you know, 735 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: maybe you could say something to him or talk to 736 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 2: him or answer any questions and stuff for him. So 737 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 2: you know, that was always top notch and everything for me. 738 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: And you know, that was the type of teammate he 739 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: was and all that stuff. And I mean even seeing 740 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 2: him doing you know, his Omaha productions and everything, now 741 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 2: that's Peyton. 742 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 743 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 2: And you know, for a while, you know whatever with 744 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 2: the Heisman. You know, you look back at all those 745 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 2: films and you see the look on his face, you 746 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 2: know that kind of you know, he wasn't able to 747 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: be himself and everything because there was a lot of 748 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: pressure and everything and stuff. But man, once he kind 749 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 2: of got from up under that microscope and all you 750 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 2: kind of just see, you know, hey, man, that's Peyton 751 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 2: and all that stuff. So I enjoy all the stuff 752 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 2: he's doing right now, because man, he was a fundy 753 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 2: character and stuff. And but yeah, he came back and 754 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: all and supported T. I mean, I think T will 755 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 2: tell you guys. I mean, you know, whether it was 756 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 2: in the film room, on the film you know, they 757 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 2: really they worked well together and stuff, and you know, 758 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: t was just an extension of what Peyton you know, 759 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: helped him with and how he brought him along as 760 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 2: a player as well too. 761 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: I've only played against him and talked on the field, 762 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: but he's always seemed just like a great person. Ye 763 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: Peyton Man, you know, and I did. I'm not a 764 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: big Saturday Night Live guy, but the one I saw 765 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 1: that he hosted. I mean, he's one of those few 766 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: people that I feel like he could do anything he 767 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: says his mind, Like if he wanted to be a 768 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: full time Hollywood actor, I think he would be successful 769 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: if he wanted to coach, whatever it may be. So 770 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: now that's pretty cool that he was still supporting y'all. 771 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 3: Y'all, definitely, he definitely was. 772 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 2: I remember also his brother, Cooper Man, I got to 773 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 2: know him, and it's just it's like, man, how you 774 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: all these things just lined up together. So, I mean 775 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 2: Alabama Mississippi All Star game, Cooper he was there because 776 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 2: he was he was doing TV or I guess uh 777 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 2: sportscasting or journalism at the time and stuff. So got 778 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 2: a chance to talk with him after the game and stuff. 779 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 2: He interviewed me after the game. You know, told me 780 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 2: that he was a brother, so I immediately let me 781 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 2: find out about this guy. Yeah, and all this stuff 782 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 2: and found out about his story and all. Just a great, 783 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 2: great family. You know, spend time with Eli. We used 784 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 2: to come up down recruiting visits and stuff like that. Man, 785 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: great family and stuff. So yeah, they definitely seem like 786 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: a great family. Well there's some great things going on 787 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 2: here in Houston. So before we end this, you know, 788 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 2: you and I have a chance to do a lot 789 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 2: of things in the community on behalf of the Texans. 790 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: But just the excitement in this building. Can you kind 791 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: of you were here from day one? I mean, you 792 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: were here when we probably had one of, if not 793 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: the most exciting victory over the Cowboys. But just talk 794 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: about like this past season and what it means to 795 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: still be involved with the squad, with the Miko leading 796 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: the way. 797 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 2: Man, it's it's awesome. I think it's you know, again, 798 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 2: we've the team. The culture has been there. I don't 799 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 2: think they ever changed, you know. I think the first 800 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 2: thing that you know, Demiko probably understood he had to 801 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 2: do is changed the culture in the locker room and 802 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 2: all that stuff. And I mean, and I think I 803 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 2: knew once that happened. I said that, you know, even 804 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 2: leaving up to it. I mean, someone comes here and 805 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 2: just change that culture in the locker room and get 806 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 2: it back to where it. 807 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 3: Needs to be. 808 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 2: Hey, this this organization is going to be fine and 809 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 2: all that stuff. And I mean, you know, Di Miko, 810 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 2: he has you know, passionate love for game. I was 811 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 2: here when he was drafted in two thousand and six 812 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 2: and all that stuff. And even you know, playing with 813 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 2: him as a teammate, I mean he brought that same 814 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 2: fire mentality to the team and stuff. And you know 815 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 2: that those type of things resonate in all that stuff, 816 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 2: and resonated not only in young players, it resonates for 817 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 2: older players as well and stuff. So man, I think, 818 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 2: you know, just the direction of the organization is in 819 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 2: a positive place and all this stuff, and you know, 820 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 2: disguise the limit for them. You know, as long as 821 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 2: I think this, you know this team stays healthy, continue 822 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 2: to do the things they've been doing in the off season, 823 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 2: whether that's through the draft, through free agency, you know, 824 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 2: making those right moves, bringing in people that want to 825 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 2: come in and be a part of the solution and 826 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 2: all that stuff. 827 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 3: And that's what it's all about. 828 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 2: And I think you know, they've been you know, solution 829 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: oriented over the last you know, a few years to 830 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 2: you know, hey, get this organization back to you know 831 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: where it needs to be. 832 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 3: All Right. 833 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: That's the voice of Fred Weary, one of the true Ogs. 834 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: This is the OG podcast, but he is an actual 835 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: true OG, drafted in two thousand and two, so one 836 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: of the original Texans, original Gridiron So the OTG is 837 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: what we'll say right there, You're the triple you know 838 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: how they say on the streets. He's a triple OG. 839 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: That's what you are. But you're definitely appreciated and I 840 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: was glad that, you know, when I heard that you 841 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: were coming to be a part of the podcast. So 842 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: definitely appreciate everything you're still doing in the community with 843 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,720 Speaker 1: football on with the youngsters. But as Fred, I'm indeed 844 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 1: this has been the o G podcast. Don't touch that down.