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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys out Welcome to a special,
Speaker 1: very special edition of Hanging with the Talking Cowboys break.
Speaker 1: I am Shannon Gross, host of Hanging with the Boys.
Speaker 1: I am joined by Rob Phillips from Talking Cowboys, Isaiah Standback,
Speaker 1: former Dallas Cowboy of Talking Cowboys, and Nick Eatman from
Speaker 1: the break. How are we doing today, fellas? What's up here?
Speaker 1: Lovely lovely good man? So we we we got together.
Speaker 1: Nick called me today and said, man, that was such
Speaker 1: a hell of a first round of the draft. Some
Speaker 1: people's jaws are still on the floor. Some people are
Speaker 1: really pumped. Some people are in disbelief that they didn't
Speaker 1: go defense. We need to talk about this. Let's get
Speaker 1: a show together. And I was like, let's do it, man.
Speaker 1: So Rob, we pulled you in. Isaiah and Isaiah you
Speaker 1: I'm interested to get your thoughts on going with a
Speaker 1: wide receiver in the first round when you absolutely needed
Speaker 1: defense and everybody thought you were going defense, but when
Speaker 1: you gave a guy and Steven said it last night
Speaker 1: after the after the show, after the draft, they had
Speaker 1: this guy number six on their board. When he falls
Speaker 1: to number seventeen, you gotta go with him, right, absolutely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: those guys didn't have a choice. Man. As much as
Speaker 1: they like all the Cowboy Nation recognized that we needed
Speaker 1: defense and we needed to take care of everything, all
Speaker 1: the opportunities that were presenting in front of us on
Speaker 1: that side of the ball. When somebody like that falls
Speaker 1: into your lap and you have an opportunity to solidify
Speaker 1: your offense, you just can't miss on it. Rob, What
Speaker 1: were your I know you were you were watching the
Speaker 1: broadcast last night, you were watching, you know, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: Live Draft show and seeing how everything was playing out.
Speaker 1: What what did you think whenever the pick came down
Speaker 1: from the Cowboys. Well, like everybody, I was surprised. I mean,
Speaker 1: we had a Fox for Southwest taping earlier in the
Speaker 1: day and we talked wide receivers and I think out
Speaker 1: of my mouth was well, we don't need to worry
Speaker 1: about CD Lamb. Yeah, he's great and all, but he's
Speaker 1: gonna be in the top twelve picks. And when it
Speaker 1: didn't happen, you know, like Isaiah said, you got to
Speaker 1: take your best value, especially when it's that high of
Speaker 1: a value, and to me it's you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of times in the draft, the safe pick isn't always
Speaker 1: the sexy pick. You know, twenty fourteen, Zack Martin wasn't
Speaker 1: a splashy draft pick. Now he turned out to be
Speaker 1: by far the right pick over Johnny Football. But the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in this instance, they got, they got. They made
Speaker 1: a splashy pick, and they made the safest pick. Although
Speaker 1: to Isaiah's point, you know, they need to look at
Speaker 1: defense now going forward in the draft, whether it's a corner,
Speaker 1: whether it's a safety, whether it's a defensive lineman. They
Speaker 1: need to address that. But I do think it does
Speaker 1: feel somewhat ad need for them. I know Nick wrote
Speaker 1: a column about best player available. He's exactly right, but
Speaker 1: wide receiver to some extent, maybe top three or four
Speaker 1: needs that they had, and they addressed it early. Nick,
Speaker 1: you were you go ahead, and I was just gonna
Speaker 1: say you were right. You were right in the middle
Speaker 1: of talking to DeMarcus Ware and Jamie Thoughts on our
Speaker 1: live draft show last night when the pick came down,
Speaker 1: and you got to talk to him a little bit after.
Speaker 1: What what did you think when all that was going Now, well,
Speaker 1: you know they were you know, d Ware of course,
Speaker 1: was like, you gotta get the pass rushure, right, you
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta get you know, Chase on you got
Speaker 1: you know, And but you know, I was saying, let's
Speaker 1: let's you know, look at these wide receivers. I was
Speaker 1: actually on when Jerry Judy was getting picked. So you know,
Speaker 1: at that point, you know, Ken Law and Judy and Lamb,
Speaker 1: it's like they're gonna get somebody really good here. But
Speaker 1: but I thought, I think Rob said it best, especially
Speaker 1: when you think about what Jerry Jones loves. If you
Speaker 1: can get the sexy pick and the smart pick is
Speaker 1: the same one, well that's all. That's a no brainer.
Speaker 1: That's all day long for Jerry Jones. So I thought
Speaker 1: that that's very well said, because you know, that's what
Speaker 1: you're always trying to do. It You're trying to make
Speaker 1: a smart pick. But you know, if you could sell Jerseys,
Speaker 1: let's do that too. And so you know, now I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what number he's gonna wear just yet.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's been thrown out there, but
Speaker 1: if he puts those two numbers together. Did Jerry say
Speaker 1: you wanted to wear eighty eight? That it's it's a
Speaker 1: weird thing. I think Jerry had a college teammate at
Speaker 1: Arkansas that passed away. His name was Lamb, Jerry Lamb.
Speaker 1: Maybe he wore eighty eight in Arkansas and he wanted
Speaker 1: him to maybe honor him. Where eighty eight. Oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, that happens to be the number of the
Speaker 1: three best wide receivers, you know, three of the best
Speaker 1: in the history of the of the team, and we
Speaker 1: made a documentary about eighty eight. So that's pretty big
Speaker 1: if you want to throw him in there. I think
Speaker 1: he wants to wear number ten. But we'll see who
Speaker 1: wins that one. What was it was Dez pick number
Speaker 1: seventeen in the first round as well twenty four? Okay,
Speaker 1: add one seven to that. So so is anybody on
Speaker 1: this upset that they didn't go defense or we all
Speaker 1: on board with this pick and we think that was
Speaker 1: the right thing considering the talent that that failed to
Speaker 1: where they were at. I'll say this, Shan and if
Speaker 1: if aj Terrell from Clem's and would have been there
Speaker 1: he was picked right before, that would have been interesting
Speaker 1: because I from what I hear, their grades were very similar.
Speaker 1: And this is we're talking about a pretty big need
Speaker 1: at receiver in an extremely big need at corner. So
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if if it's close,
Speaker 1: I think Tarrell might have been the pick. I don't
Speaker 1: think it was as close for Chason, obviously, and so
Speaker 1: therefore you know, they take the CD Lamb. But um,
Speaker 1: I just think you had to take the best guy there,
Speaker 1: and I don't have a problem with it, but it
Speaker 1: would have been interesting if a cornerback that they really
Speaker 1: liked would have been sitting there because that they might
Speaker 1: have had a different pick here. So yeah, don't I
Speaker 1: don't know him, Nick, Man, I see I see it
Speaker 1: the other way man, I've known knowing Jerry. He likes
Speaker 1: a big splash, right, so j and Jerry wants to
Speaker 1: score some points. Man, it's all about them cowboys. So
Speaker 1: he wants to make sure that those guys are getting
Speaker 1: some tds and that they're fulfilling their obligations on that offense.
Speaker 1: And if you can score enough points, man, your defense
Speaker 1: just has to be so so fair. So yeah, go ahead, Shannon, No,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Rup, Well, I'm with I'm with these guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they they filled they need ultimately.
Speaker 1: I think if they had drafted a quarterback at seventeen
Speaker 1: that was their six rated player, I think everybody would
Speaker 1: have scratched their heads because that guy can't come in
Speaker 1: and play for you, you know, because Dack's gonna be
Speaker 1: Dack's your starter. He's not signed right now. He's either
Speaker 1: going to play on the franchise tag, but most likely
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a long term deal. Um, they they
Speaker 1: got a starter last night, basically. I mean when you
Speaker 1: look at the depth chart last year, you know Raynall
Speaker 1: Cobb was listed on their official depth chart as a
Speaker 1: starter because you know, you guys know when they're playing
Speaker 1: Nickel and eleven personnel a lot of the time and
Speaker 1: so you know, sixty five sixty six percent of the time. So, um,
Speaker 1: they got a starter. But it's the other way too.
Speaker 1: They need to they need to get a starter up
Speaker 1: potentially on defense as well tonight, whether it's at the
Speaker 1: corner or pass rusher or both. Yeah. I think the
Speaker 1: thing that, once I've thought about it, I was hoping
Speaker 1: they would go defense. But I'm with you, guys, the
Speaker 1: talent falls to you there. I think you have to
Speaker 1: take that guy, especially if they had a sixth grade
Speaker 1: on this guy, he falls the seventeen. And then just
Speaker 1: to see what Mike McCarthy is going to be able
Speaker 1: to do with him. Kellen Moore, you know, from everything
Speaker 1: I've read about this guy, he can play slot, he
Speaker 1: can move outside, just seeing how they're gonna use him,
Speaker 1: how they're gonna, you know, hopefully put him in motion
Speaker 1: and get him in some mismatches. He can go inside outside,
Speaker 1: just seeing, you know, from an offensive standpoint, offensive scheme,
Speaker 1: how they use him, how they're gonna you know, how
Speaker 1: are they gonna use Tony Pollard, How are they gonna
Speaker 1: stretch defenses? Just with these weapons now that you have
Speaker 1: on offense, that's the most exciting thing to me is
Speaker 1: you've got possibly the best wide receiver corps in the league.
Speaker 1: Now you've got, you know, a top three, maybe top two,
Speaker 1: top one running back. You've got one of the best
Speaker 1: backup running backs in the league. We got Blake Jarwin.
Speaker 1: Now that's I think his potential is. We haven't even
Speaker 1: seen what he can do because you've seen him on
Speaker 1: such a limited basis. I'm just super excited to see
Speaker 1: what they can do from an offensive standpoint now, and
Speaker 1: you know, is this gonna be the type of thing
Speaker 1: where it's, hey, we're building obviously, like you said, Rob,
Speaker 1: I think they got to go after defense, you know,
Speaker 1: these next rounds of the draft. But is this gonna
Speaker 1: this season gonna be a situation where it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: catch us, We're gonna put up thirty five every game.
Speaker 1: See if you can outscore us? Well, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's probably what the plan is is trying to um,
Speaker 1: you know, keep stacking up, you know, a great offense
Speaker 1: like this and finding mispatches that that's that's the key.
Speaker 1: With Jarwin and now with Ceedee Lamb. You know, you
Speaker 1: can see a lot of you know, uh personnel sets
Speaker 1: for you know, you have the four wide Jarwin's one
Speaker 1: of them. And then oh, by the way, you have
Speaker 1: the best running back at the NFL. And in my opinion,
Speaker 1: I guess with Zeke um and so if you could
Speaker 1: spread them out and run Zeke Man, that's that's definitely
Speaker 1: a dangerous offense there. Yeah, I agree with you. I
Speaker 1: think that they're taking an approach of like a Kansas City, right.
Speaker 1: We see, everybody saw what Kansas City did last year
Speaker 1: and they're you know, they're they're spreading it out. Everybody's
Speaker 1: touching the ball. Everybody who who's on the field can
Speaker 1: make a play. So as a defense, you're in no
Speaker 1: man's land, right and there's there is no right decision,
Speaker 1: And I think that's the position that the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: in now. On offense, having fulfilled all these I mean,
Speaker 1: you have three whiteouts that can all take it to
Speaker 1: the house. You have a tight end who's up and coming,
Speaker 1: who has that gold juice as well, and then like
Speaker 1: you mentioned, you just happen to have a guy at
Speaker 1: the number four and the number twenty one, and you
Speaker 1: know in the backfield that can to tote the rock
Speaker 1: and throw the rock. So they are a complete problem
Speaker 1: on offense and then on defense, like I touched on
Speaker 1: the Talking Cowboys, their front seven is not bad. There.
Speaker 1: First seven is actually pretty dog gone good. They need
Speaker 1: one or two more guys on that front seven, and
Speaker 1: they don't have to do that much in the secondary. Right,
Speaker 1: that front seven is going to control and control the
Speaker 1: temple of the game. We're in the NFC East. In
Speaker 1: the NFC East, they like to run the ball. So
Speaker 1: if they're taking time off the clock on that side
Speaker 1: of the ball, and we're scoring fast. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, Cowboys getting victories. Yeah, and what Nick
Speaker 1: said a minute ago about, you know, taking a linebacker
Speaker 1: off the field because you can spread them out, that's
Speaker 1: gonna help Zeke a lot. But I'm with you, Isaiah.
Speaker 1: They've done some nice things on defense in the off season.
Speaker 1: There's just there are there are some question marks obviously,
Speaker 1: not only with with Randy Gregory and Alvin Smith not
Speaker 1: reinstated yet, assuming they can get if they can get reinstated,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they played football in a long time.
Speaker 1: So if you know that secondary, I can't ever have
Speaker 1: but George lewis getting this year and be a good thing.
Speaker 1: But you know you're also looking last this season two
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. You know most of your entire secondary
Speaker 1: could be up for free agency. So so what do
Speaker 1: we Nick and Isaiah jump in here. I've you know,
Speaker 1: I know that CD's a good receiver. I know that
Speaker 1: you know we got a heck of a value where
Speaker 1: we got him at But what exactly what kind of
Speaker 1: receiver is he? Is he a physical guy? Is he
Speaker 1: more of a finesse guy. I've heard people compare him
Speaker 1: to a you know, a young DeAndre Hopkins. What kind
Speaker 1: of guy are we getting when we when we see
Speaker 1: this guy on the field this year. I'll let the
Speaker 1: former receiver into that. I like the kid because he's
Speaker 1: he's range you, right, and he's he's he has multiple
Speaker 1: options that that he can that he can provide for you. Right.
Speaker 1: He's he's physical. Right, we all know how he is
Speaker 1: once he gets the ball in his hands, right, his
Speaker 1: his jack yardage is his second to none. Right, He's
Speaker 1: physical at the point of attack. He grabs a ball,
Speaker 1: he plecks the ball off the air, and he's gonna
Speaker 1: go make a play. I think his ability that because
Speaker 1: of his height. Um, I think they'll put a little
Speaker 1: bit more weight on him, but not too much. Right.
Speaker 1: But we're six one six two across across the receiving corps,
Speaker 1: So the ability to be able to move guys in
Speaker 1: and out are absolutely you know, their their end list.
Speaker 1: But I like the fact that he's going to create
Speaker 1: a matchup problem. You think about the people that are
Speaker 1: going to be covering him. It's gonna be your either
Speaker 1: your third best corner, right or or your second, your
Speaker 1: second safety. Right. So the guys that are gonna be
Speaker 1: matching up against him. They're not going to necessarily be
Speaker 1: the most fulfilled guys that that you know, in terms
Speaker 1: of being able to handle him. Um. And then, by
Speaker 1: the way, if you do focus too much attention on him,
Speaker 1: you have weapons at every other position. So I think
Speaker 1: it's a great pig. I like him, I like his ability,
Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna do a great job for us.
Speaker 1: This reminds me. Go ahead, Shan No, I was just
Speaker 1: I was gonna talk a little bit about the draft,
Speaker 1: but go ahead, I want to hear your thoughts on him. Well,
Speaker 1: I just want to say this reminds me a little
Speaker 1: bit of what Atlanta was trying to do a few
Speaker 1: years ago. They had Julio Jones, they had Muhammed Sanu
Speaker 1: with that consider it would be similar to Cooper and
Speaker 1: Gallup at the time. And then they picked Ridley because
Speaker 1: he was there and he was you know, he could
Speaker 1: help them, and they wanted to pair that with DeVante
Speaker 1: Freeman at running back and they had a really great offense.
Speaker 1: But things can change quickly in this league. I don't
Speaker 1: believe that that Freeman or so do or even with
Speaker 1: the team right now, So you know it changes, but
Speaker 1: it's still is very similar concept of you know, you
Speaker 1: have a good tight end. You've got three dynamic receivers
Speaker 1: and a back which I don't see anybody being as
Speaker 1: good as Zeke. So uh like we keep saying, keep,
Speaker 1: you know, keep trying to stack on offense, try to
Speaker 1: outscore everyone, and hang on for dear life on defense.
Speaker 1: How how different Rob, this is, I guess for you
Speaker 1: and Nick, normally this week, right now, yesterday, tomorrow, we
Speaker 1: would all be in the building. We would you know,
Speaker 1: be running back and forth all over the building, all
Speaker 1: kind of there together. And the weeks leading up to
Speaker 1: the dre raff you're able to be in the building
Speaker 1: and talk to guys. We're able to talk to, you know,
Speaker 1: some of the scouting department, some of the football ops guys,
Speaker 1: and we're able to kind of get a feel for
Speaker 1: what's going on, kind of what they're thinking, what direction
Speaker 1: they may be going in. And this year, obviously, circumstances
Speaker 1: are totally different. They weren't even in the same rooms
Speaker 1: conducting all their their meetings, virtually, all their interviews virtually
Speaker 1: and everything. Talk a little bit about how it was
Speaker 1: different this year for you guys covering the draft. I
Speaker 1: know we were, you know, on WebEx calls last night
Speaker 1: talking about you know, our teams trying to work together
Speaker 1: to make sure we had everything going out. But just
Speaker 1: leading up to the draft, how how different was it?
Speaker 1: Were there things that were better, were there things that
Speaker 1: were worse? Just what was your experience this year with
Speaker 1: the first round? Well, you said it, I mean logistically,
Speaker 1: we've got challenges, just like the Cowboys front office does.
Speaker 1: And you know, we had our we had our video chats,
Speaker 1: and then we had our our messaging chats. Like there
Speaker 1: were a couple of times I didn't know where to
Speaker 1: go to communicate because we were trying to open up
Speaker 1: a lot of lines of communication with each other. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what, for me, it was a nice break
Speaker 1: just to get out of my own head with what's
Speaker 1: going on in the real world and being isolated. Just
Speaker 1: being back trying to communicate and covering something with you
Speaker 1: guys again was really really cool. And I got the
Speaker 1: same feeling from Stephen Jones when he talked about it
Speaker 1: in the free the post press conference last night. Like
Speaker 1: everybody in the front office, the scouts, the player personnel, guys,
Speaker 1: the Joneses have all just kind of embraced the situation
Speaker 1: they're in and all thirty two teams are in it.
Speaker 1: And he actually said a lot of what they've done
Speaker 1: in terms of their scheduling has benefited them, and maybe
Speaker 1: there's ways when we get back to normal that they
Speaker 1: can still carry over some of the things they've done
Speaker 1: logistically the last few weeks. And you know, I'll say,
Speaker 1: on top of that, Shannon, I feel like communication has
Speaker 1: been pretty good. You know, we were able to still
Speaker 1: talk to some people this morning, got a decent idea
Speaker 1: what they might do today. We can talk about some
Speaker 1: of that later. Um. And then of course, you know
Speaker 1: you mentioned me being on the call with Jamie Fox
Speaker 1: and DeMarcus Ware and you know, I get a chat
Speaker 1: that pops up that says, I think it looks like
Speaker 1: it's gonna be ceedee lamb. And so Jamie Fox is like,
Speaker 1: you think they'll take a receiver, that they won't take
Speaker 1: a receiver, and I'm like, well, Jamie, Um, they might actually,
Speaker 1: you know, And so they were able to you know,
Speaker 1: you know, it was It's just interesting to do that
Speaker 1: and to to kind of still communicate with our team.
Speaker 1: So we're doing I think we're doing the best we can.
Speaker 1: I think we're doing a pretty good job. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: definitely definitely been different. Um And you know, I've read
Speaker 1: a couple of things today that the draft experience overall
Speaker 1: from a viewership standpoint, was was better than it is
Speaker 1: when you know, everybody's in one place and it's it's
Speaker 1: a big production, because it was more real, it was
Speaker 1: more organic everybody. I think, you know, if you're watching
Speaker 1: the Draft, you kind of I think this was one
Speaker 1: of those events that we haven't been able to see
Speaker 1: anything with sports for so long that this kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, almost like a galvanizing thing where everybody came
Speaker 1: together from their living rooms, and you know, you didn't
Speaker 1: feel like you weren't part of it because the coaches
Speaker 1: were in their living rooms, the owners were in their
Speaker 1: living rooms, the gyms were so you almost felt like
Speaker 1: you were, you know, right there beside him going through
Speaker 1: this whole thing. So I think it was it was
Speaker 1: definitely different, but I think it was a cool kind
Speaker 1: of different. And I think, just like Steven said, there's
Speaker 1: some things that I think we learned as a as
Speaker 1: a team as well that we'll do different going forward.
Speaker 1: So I just kind of wanted to get yas y'all's feelings. Isaiah,
Speaker 1: from your standpoint watching it on TV and everything, how
Speaker 1: did you How is it different for you as as
Speaker 1: a kind of a fan watching it, man, Yeah, stepping
Speaker 1: back away from being a player and now seeing it
Speaker 1: from this perspective. I thought it was really cool. I thought,
Speaker 1: as from a from a parents perspective, seeing how human
Speaker 1: a lot of these general managers, a lot of these
Speaker 1: coaches are. I think that is really going to make
Speaker 1: a connection between the fans and uh, you know, in
Speaker 1: the front office, and the fans and the players. I
Speaker 1: think that there's always this this huge separation between athletes
Speaker 1: and the fans, right, and I think that yesterday close
Speaker 1: that gap. I really do. I think you're really humanized everybody,
Speaker 1: and it really brought everybody closer to say, hey, look,
Speaker 1: yes they have kids too, Yes they were very much involved.
Speaker 1: Yes they also interrupt, Yes they also have dogs. Everybody
Speaker 1: doesn't have a mansion with a fire pit in the backyard,
Speaker 1: nor does everybody have a you know, a tuitor in
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars yacht. But you know, for the most part,
Speaker 1: everybody was living pretty seemingly normalized and their basements or
Speaker 1: in their offices or whatever. So I think that that
Speaker 1: alone is going to bring, you know, bring the fans
Speaker 1: even closer to the game. Yeah. I would like to
Speaker 1: tuck your first house in Amazon if I could. That
Speaker 1: was That's a nice path he's got out there in Amazone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love the magazine cover. Let's take our let's take
Speaker 1: our first break. When we come back, Isaiah, I want
Speaker 1: to get kind of some feedback from you. Now he's
Speaker 1: been drafted. What happens now, the mentality and then just
Speaker 1: the physical stuff about having to move to a big
Speaker 1: city and integrate with the team, and kind of what
Speaker 1: those first few weeks are like coming into a new program,
Speaker 1: coming in you know, you were the big dog in
Speaker 1: a small pond. Now all of a sudden, you're dropped
Speaker 1: in this huge pond and you're just a guy until
Speaker 1: you proved yourself. So let's get into that. Let's get
Speaker 1: into what are they gonna do the next two days?
Speaker 1: What direction do we think is it all defense from
Speaker 1: here on out? There were some rumblings before the draft
Speaker 1: started that they may be interested in a quarterback somewhere
Speaker 1: down the road several you know, several rounds in. Do
Speaker 1: we think that's a possibility. We want to get your
Speaker 1: thoughts on that when we come back from the SWC
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Speaker 1: and Isaiah Stanback. We're gonna talk draft and other things,
Speaker 1: but mainly draft. So Isaiah, I want to get your
Speaker 1: your feedback on what is what does life look like
Speaker 1: for Cedee Lamb the next couple of days, couple of
Speaker 1: weeks and then heading into training camp. Absolutely right thing.
Speaker 1: You know, today, he'll enjoy the moment. You know, obviously
Speaker 1: he'll do a ton of interviews, he'll be all over
Speaker 1: the gaming in terms of that. But then tomorrow it
Speaker 1: gets back to normal. Tomorrow, you know, you're you're a
Speaker 1: rookie on campus again. You know you have to get
Speaker 1: you know, if you can whatever whenever they're able to
Speaker 1: send over to play. But he'll dive directly into that,
Speaker 1: right that'll be number one. He'll get into that. He'll
Speaker 1: get into the off season, off season program. Uh, they'll
Speaker 1: start analyzing his physical his nutrition, his strength and conditioning program.
Speaker 1: They'll get him all screwed up there. But I mean
Speaker 1: in terms of him, just as a player, you come in,
Speaker 1: you be humble. It doesn't matter what what pick you were,
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter that you're a first round guy. You
Speaker 1: come in, you understand that, Hey, I'm now new on campus.
Speaker 1: Hey I have a role to fulfill. I need to
Speaker 1: get into the locker room. Um, you know, let guys
Speaker 1: see my personality, let guys see my work ethic, and
Speaker 1: more than not, you know, let my work, you know,
Speaker 1: speak for itself. You know, you never want those guys
Speaker 1: that come in and just do a bunch of wolf
Speaker 1: and a bunch of talking that that never goes over well,
Speaker 1: even if they're able to back it up. So come in,
Speaker 1: be humble, work your tail off, Understand that you play
Speaker 1: a small role in the big picture, and I think
Speaker 1: you'll be You'll be received well from the rest of
Speaker 1: your teammates. You know, Isaiah hold On, I think I think, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: I think that makes a perfect sense if he's allowed
Speaker 1: to do that. But what if it's a what if
Speaker 1: it goes over his head? What if he's he's given
Speaker 1: the number eighty eight, which you know, and then it'd
Speaker 1: be humble. But we're gonna compare you to three of
Speaker 1: the best receivers of all times. To remember that's what's
Speaker 1: picked twenty four. Randy Gregory was picked sixty and they
Speaker 1: gave him ninety four, So it's not above them to
Speaker 1: do that. I think that all that sounds great, but
Speaker 1: I do wonder you start, you give the guy number
Speaker 1: eighty eight, all of a sudden, expectations change and people
Speaker 1: are looking around, and so I wonder if he tries
Speaker 1: to have that approach, but maybe it's gonna be, you know,
Speaker 1: something out of his control. Yeah, I mean, even if
Speaker 1: they do it, they put it like this, everybody's always
Speaker 1: gonna put pressure on you. Right, your first round pick,
Speaker 1: you have that pressure. And then I'm by the way,
Speaker 1: you're a first round pick in Dallas, right, so you're
Speaker 1: gonna have a ridiculous amount of pressure on you no
Speaker 1: matter what. Remember you're coming in you're gonna have two
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars guys. Well, there is the a
Speaker 1: three one hundred million dollars guys on the roster. He's
Speaker 1: still a small fish in upon right. So that's the
Speaker 1: great thing about coming into this environment. From the pick
Speaker 1: that he has. Even if they do give him eighty eight,
Speaker 1: you still have or who just close out a deal.
Speaker 1: You still have Zeke. You still have Dak that's about
Speaker 1: to get some big boy money. So in the grands
Speaker 1: came at Temes. He's not the superstar, and that is
Speaker 1: the greatest position that you could be in as a
Speaker 1: as a high high draft pick, coming into a situation
Speaker 1: where you don't have to be the guy. So I
Speaker 1: think that he has nothing but time under him, and
Speaker 1: it is the best situation that he could have possibly
Speaker 1: walked into. I said, you said something on our show
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. I loved it. You talk
Speaker 1: about how drafting players, you gotta have mentally tough guys,
Speaker 1: guys that can handle it on the field and off
Speaker 1: the field, and everything you hear about cdee Lamb, he
Speaker 1: could do that. One thing I noticed about DeMarco Murray
Speaker 1: when he came in to Dallas a few years ago.
Speaker 1: He was all business. And I think maybe it had
Speaker 1: to do with that OU program because that I mean,
Speaker 1: they are like approved team up there in terms of
Speaker 1: their visibility and expectations, and maybe that's something that's gonna
Speaker 1: serve him well. Coming into Dallas because you guys are right.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a monster spotlight and you've got to
Speaker 1: be able to handle it. Hey don't look now, but
Speaker 1: they picked up this off season. They've signed Gerald McCoy,
Speaker 1: went to Oklahoma, Blake Bell Oklahoma, MA. Now this guy
Speaker 1: um Ceedee Lamb. And you know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you looked at my mock draft, but I had Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts in the fourth round. I know he's in Alabama
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma. Guy maybe gives Land the quarterback that he's
Speaker 1: that he's played with this last year. But that's one
Speaker 1: thing I really though, I do love about what he
Speaker 1: did in his career. He had three different quarterbacks. Now
Speaker 1: two of them were picking number one overall and won
Speaker 1: the Heisman. But still not a lot of continuity. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter who's throwing the ball. Still productive. That's what's
Speaker 1: so great about Hungry Hopkins. To me, whoever the quarterback is,
Speaker 1: you know, Michael Thomas is the same way. Just throw
Speaker 1: it out there and I'll catch it. Absolutely, Nick, you
Speaker 1: brought it up. You brought up Jalen Hurts. What do
Speaker 1: we think for these these next two days of the draft.
Speaker 1: What do you guys expecting or there any current balls
Speaker 1: that we that we might see, like, yeah, you brought
Speaker 1: up Jalen If if they're looking if they draft a quarterback,
Speaker 1: does that mean they're not happy with Dak? Does that
Speaker 1: mean because this team doesn't have a history of drafting
Speaker 1: quarterbacks as as flyers in the recent years. The reason
Speaker 1: why I think I think that Jalen Hurts might be
Speaker 1: somebody they would be interested in, but probably in the
Speaker 1: fourth round, and he might go before that. But let's
Speaker 1: just say he's unlike another third or fourth round pick
Speaker 1: because you wouldn't have some packages for him. We know
Speaker 1: this is a copycat league, and so what's happening in
Speaker 1: New Orleans Taysom Hill. They're trying to groom him to
Speaker 1: be a quarterback. But in the meantime, let's figure out
Speaker 1: a place for you to go. And I think that's
Speaker 1: something that if they drafted Jalen Hurts, that would be
Speaker 1: his role. Yeah, you're a quarterback, but let's don't just
Speaker 1: wear the ball cap. You're gonna do some stuff here
Speaker 1: as you as you develop. But I don't think it
Speaker 1: means anything to what they both feel like about Dak
Speaker 1: and sending messages and anything like that. I just think
Speaker 1: that they think he's a great athlete and they wouldn't
Speaker 1: find a spot for him. I picked him in my
Speaker 1: mock draft in the fourth round. I bet he doesn't
Speaker 1: last that month. Rob, what do you think about that?
Speaker 1: I think he's He's one of a few guys that
Speaker 1: are going to be available in the middle rounds at
Speaker 1: quarterback that you know started a lot of games in college,
Speaker 1: are winners, you know from from Georgia's another guy just
Speaker 1: throwing another guy out there. There's there's some quality, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe mid round quarterbacks out there. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know if they're going to go that route. I know
Speaker 1: they might like to, because you know, they talked to
Speaker 1: in the pre draft press conference about just trying to
Speaker 1: develop that quarterback room. And you know, Cooper Rush is
Speaker 1: on a one year deal and hasn't played a lot
Speaker 1: of football, and Mike McCarthy's an offensive guy and he
Speaker 1: has a history of drafting quarterbacks, even behind Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: It might be something they like to do, but they
Speaker 1: do have some other needs and I wonder if they
Speaker 1: need to get to those first. But there could be
Speaker 1: value that presents itself somewhere in the later rounds. I
Speaker 1: agree with Nick, it's got nothing to do with Dak
Speaker 1: Presscott at all. That's the guy, and we'll be the
Speaker 1: guy for several more years. What are some of those
Speaker 1: needs that where do you think they're gonna go? And
Speaker 1: anybody jump in here. Where do you think they're gonna
Speaker 1: go tonight? They've got what two picks tonight? Do you
Speaker 1: think they're both defense? Or do you do you think
Speaker 1: they're just trying to build this You know, we've heard
Speaker 1: this coaching staff on offense and defense say, hey, we're
Speaker 1: not gonna try to make anybody fit into a position
Speaker 1: that they don't fit into. We just want the most
Speaker 1: talented guys that we can get on the field, and
Speaker 1: we'll figure out how to play them. Do you think
Speaker 1: it's possibility they could go offense again with one of
Speaker 1: these two picks or do you think they have to
Speaker 1: go defense with both of these? I think they have
Speaker 1: to go defense. I mean I think I think then
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones has had his candy. Now he has any
Speaker 1: I think he has all the candy that he needs
Speaker 1: right now. His sweet tooth is fulfilled at this point.
Speaker 1: Now you address your needs right you're a you're a here.
Speaker 1: You had a great opportunity for somebody out of talent
Speaker 1: likes he need to drop into your lap at that position,
Speaker 1: and you literally solidified your offense. Your offense is good, right,
Speaker 1: you can always add depth, right, but your offense is
Speaker 1: perfectly fine. Now you are Kansas City in Dallas, perfect
Speaker 1: all right, Cool, that's out the way. You need defense.
Speaker 1: You need some guys that are versatile on that defense
Speaker 1: side of the ball. You need some guys that can
Speaker 1: play the edge. If I was over there picking and
Speaker 1: I was a general manager, even though I'm not, if
Speaker 1: I was, I would get somebody who can play, you
Speaker 1: know that stand up in or as another great outside
Speaker 1: linebacker for you. So if you feel that that those
Speaker 1: three linebackers, that those two linebackacies you already have. Obviously
Speaker 1: Shawn Lee's coming back, but you have you got you
Speaker 1: got Jalen Smith, and you've got the dog on wolf
Speaker 1: in there. And if you can add another young, hungry
Speaker 1: guy that can feel some gaps, I think you're you
Speaker 1: got some range and those guys can run side to
Speaker 1: side on the sideline of sideline. So that's more I'm
Speaker 1: thinking that they're gonna go as either get a strong
Speaker 1: outside linebacker that's aggressive, or get a statup, a stand
Speaker 1: up in Isaiah. Do you watch college game day? Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean Luke Lee Corse with my thin not so fast,
Speaker 1: not so fast? And how about how about this though
Speaker 1: addressing needs. You're in the second round and you have
Speaker 1: a guy that you rated on your board who is
Speaker 1: a sinner. Now you've got a journeyman, veteran guy and
Speaker 1: Joe Looney who on a one year deal. If you
Speaker 1: can solidify that position, and here's the guy that's going
Speaker 1: to play three to four five years for you, like
Speaker 1: that to me is a need. I know that you're
Speaker 1: still stacking offense. But can Looney get the job done? Yes?
Speaker 1: And maybe McGovern comes in, But what if you've got
Speaker 1: a guy that's sitting there. I mean, they have a
Speaker 1: good track record of drafting centers like that with Frederick.
Speaker 1: You know, that's just an option. If there's one sitting
Speaker 1: there that they like, that is a need. I don't
Speaker 1: disagree with you, but I think the NFC in a
Speaker 1: position that they're in right now. If you look at
Speaker 1: all the other teams in our division, they are stacking
Speaker 1: up on offense. They are completely everybody's stacking up at receiver.
Speaker 1: Everybody's stacking up with all their weapons ready to go
Speaker 1: off there and and be lightning fast to be able
Speaker 1: to score touchdowns immediately. If you don't combat that, what's
Speaker 1: up talent on the defensive side of the ball, you
Speaker 1: can score at the points you want to. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be sitting up. You're looking at a hundred point games.
Speaker 1: You need to be able to stop them from scoring.
Speaker 1: So they have to and I say, have to emphasize that.
Speaker 1: Get some guys on the defenside of ball. Not to
Speaker 1: say that they don't, they have some great pieces, but
Speaker 1: why not solidify your front seven. If you solidify your
Speaker 1: front seven, like I said, your secondary doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be great, and your offense is already great. So let's
Speaker 1: go out here to make sure that we can stop
Speaker 1: the dog on a run and get some pressure on
Speaker 1: the cornerback and guess what, life gets easier. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with Isam. I mean I think it's I think
Speaker 1: it's time to try to address it. But I mean,
Speaker 1: look there, if they're gonna stick to what they did
Speaker 1: last night, they're gonna go with who's the best on
Speaker 1: their board? Uh, with sub regard to need obviously, and um,
Speaker 1: there's there's gonna be a lot there's a lot of
Speaker 1: good prospects left on paper. I mean a lot of
Speaker 1: guys that got first round buzz and all these mock
Speaker 1: drafts that are still out there. And and Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: was on the fan earlier today and didn't give the
Speaker 1: impression that they were inclined to try to move up
Speaker 1: to get somebody, um, you know, because they don't want
Speaker 1: to sacrifice future picks, even in this rap. So, uh,
Speaker 1: it's pretty you know. Adam Schefter just tweeted that some
Speaker 1: executive in the NFL to them, this might be the
Speaker 1: deepest second round in twenty five years. So they got
Speaker 1: a shot to get a baller, I mean, whether front seven,
Speaker 1: like Isaiah said, so maybe somebody in the second area,
Speaker 1: just somebody that can that can help and compete and
Speaker 1: maybe get some playing time. Uh, and just and just
Speaker 1: add to some competition on defense, because you know, defensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball was not as consistent as the
Speaker 1: offensive side last year. I was told, guys, I was
Speaker 1: told today that the Cowboys have twenty five players with
Speaker 1: second round grades that are that are on the board
Speaker 1: right now, and they take eighteen in this second round
Speaker 1: and one of those players, actually I say twenty four.
Speaker 1: One of them has the first round grade. So um,
Speaker 1: we'll see, if you know, if he lasts to him.
Speaker 1: But still at picking eighteen, you really don't have to
Speaker 1: move up. You're gonna get a good football player and there.
Speaker 1: So that's an encouraging signed for the Cowboys. That Will
Speaker 1: it be on defense? Will it be a position to
Speaker 1: be We'll see. But I don't disagree with you, guys.
Speaker 1: I do think defense is where they need to go.
Speaker 1: But if a center is staring you in the face,
Speaker 1: you know, let's not forget that you could be down
Speaker 1: the road next year and doing a bang. We gotta
Speaker 1: get ourselves a center. So yeah, yeah, but I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I mean I would, I would look at it. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a defensive end because there's five
Speaker 1: or six defensive ends that they like in the second
Speaker 1: round that are there. I think the one will be
Speaker 1: there for him. Yeah, I think I think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have a great opportunity right now to think think back
Speaker 1: to the old school Baltimore teams. Right thinking back to
Speaker 1: old school Baltimore Ravens when they had all those dogs
Speaker 1: on defense, right, and their front seven was just nasty.
Speaker 1: They had Sarah Busa they had and they had all
Speaker 1: those guys plugging up the gaps, right. Very's similar to
Speaker 1: McCoy and the guys that we have right now. Rather
Speaker 1: they're gonna be plugging up those a gaps, right. And
Speaker 1: what did it allow Ray Lewis to do? They allow
Speaker 1: Ray Ray to be a beast? Right, Y was able
Speaker 1: to run, he was able to field gaps. He's able
Speaker 1: to play sideline, the sideline unintruder, right. Nobody was getting
Speaker 1: in this way. That is the system that that McCarthy
Speaker 1: has already came in and it really started implementing a
Speaker 1: little bit at a time, right. He started putting a
Speaker 1: couple of key elements in there. And I think that
Speaker 1: they really have a great opportunity to fulfill that and
Speaker 1: play similar to that or not, you know, to my horn.
Speaker 1: When I was playing with the Giants, our front sevement
Speaker 1: was nasty as well. We had a ton of d lineman, right,
Speaker 1: and we cause we cause a bunch of issues for
Speaker 1: office alignement um and in the league. So I think
Speaker 1: that we have a great chance to make that happen. Yes,
Speaker 1: certain Nick who's Ed Reid. Yeah, yeah, of course, of course, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that guy. We don't have an ed read yet, but
Speaker 1: I think they're closer to Ray Lewis. I hate saying that,
Speaker 1: but I think you're closer to Ray Lewis with those linebackers.
Speaker 1: You have that, but you don't really haven't. And Ed Reid,
Speaker 1: you're You're exactly right though. It starts up front. You
Speaker 1: get guys up front and let those guys fly around
Speaker 1: and make plays and and that's when I do love
Speaker 1: and for us the round. I love the fact that
Speaker 1: they said all on this offseason, hey, we're not worried
Speaker 1: about scheme. We're gonna get good football players. And that
Speaker 1: was evident in the first this first big here, it's
Speaker 1: like we're getting a good football player regardless of scheme.
Speaker 1: Oh that's the best thing I heard this offseason was
Speaker 1: that they'll just find guys and then fit the scheme
Speaker 1: to it. Because there's a lot of times in the
Speaker 1: past regime that had a lot of success at times
Speaker 1: on defense. But you know, well they didn't. They didn't
Speaker 1: like this guy because he didn't he didn't you know,
Speaker 1: he's kind of a square peg in a round hole.
Speaker 1: That's that doesn't appear to be the case, you know,
Speaker 1: from a philosophy standpoint, and I think that's good. I
Speaker 1: think you're more multiple on defense and using the talent
Speaker 1: that you have that way. All right, let's take another break.
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Speaker 1: any is there any concern with the secondary? We put
Speaker 1: a lot of emphasis on the front seven. Um, you
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Speaker 1: Are you comfortable with Woods back there? The departure of
Speaker 1: Jeff he Why do you guys think we're going defensive
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Speaker 1: The Cowboys have selected from Washington quarterback Isaiah standing back. Yes,
Speaker 1: how about that? Does that bringback some memories? That's a throwback, man,
Speaker 1: I'm surprisedly I got that. What was going on? Walk
Speaker 1: us through that? Do you do you still vividly remember
Speaker 1: that day exactly where you were, what you were doing,
Speaker 1: and what was going on? Very much? So. I think
Speaker 1: I woke up to a phone call from the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins waking me up at like seven o'clock in the
Speaker 1: morning as I was in Seattle, and I just made
Speaker 1: my way downstairs, man, and you know, I had some
Speaker 1: gifts that some companies had had set me outside my door.
Speaker 1: I was opening those and then the draft came on
Speaker 1: and shoot. Shortly after that, man, I got that phone call.
Speaker 1: My phone started ringing, and it was it was a
Speaker 1: surreal moment because my grandfather had just passed and he
Speaker 1: was a Cowboys fan, and um, we're sitting in the
Speaker 1: same room that either he had passed in. So it
Speaker 1: was it was pretty dark on emotional. Once I got
Speaker 1: that phone call from that guy, Jerry, that's awesome. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: if you if you got if you look at you
Speaker 1: get a chance to go to YouTube search the longest
Speaker 1: hell Mary in Chilge football history. It is the damnest
Speaker 1: thing you've ever seen. I'm not I'm not joking. It
Speaker 1: is a seventy five yard pass from the twenty five
Speaker 1: to the end zone for a touchdown from stand back
Speaker 1: to I don't know who you threw it too. I
Speaker 1: think it was before a half. But I mean, hell Mary,
Speaker 1: fifteen fifty five sixty yards seventy five yards in the air.
Speaker 1: They didn't get a credit for that either. I'm not
Speaker 1: in the history books for that. That's that's some bs
Speaker 1: right there. Why not? Why not? I think because it's
Speaker 1: all about the length of the play, the length of
Speaker 1: the play not it's not necessarily length of the throat.
Speaker 1: So I'm where you went back to the twenty five
Speaker 1: and then threw it. Hey, Rob, I think Rob was
Speaker 1: with me in San Antonio. Oh, I was gonna breathe
Speaker 1: that up. Is this where he was on his knees? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, No, you'd say that you get cutting off
Speaker 1: the air. Keep no. I just remember I remember either
Speaker 1: before or after practice, I had just I had just
Speaker 1: moved over from the merch side over to the football
Speaker 1: media side, and I think it was my first training camp.
Speaker 1: It might have been Tyring Smith's first year. I think
Speaker 1: it was rookie year and I in our second year
Speaker 1: or something, and I remember I remember, I don't remember
Speaker 1: exactly what, but I was there and I remember seeing
Speaker 1: out on the field there was a guy on his
Speaker 1: knees throwing footballs through the uprights and I think you
Speaker 1: were on the thirty or the forty and just chunking
Speaker 1: them with nothing but your upper body stream and I
Speaker 1: was just like, what is going on? It was like,
Speaker 1: this guy's not even the quarterback, like he's he's a
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Is that the same story? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. That's the story. I remember that you gotta
Speaker 1: you definitely have a gun and Isa, I'll say, that's
Speaker 1: when when the Cowboys, I guess you went to the
Speaker 1: Giants or I don't remember exactly, but when the Patriots
Speaker 1: signed you and made you a quarterback, people around the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and it was like, oh crap, because Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: knows a lot of things, and he's gonna make this
Speaker 1: guy a quarterback. Why didn't we do this? You know?
Speaker 1: And like I guess, I guess you weren't there for
Speaker 1: that long. But still I always kind of thought maybe
Speaker 1: that they should have tried that, you know, just just
Speaker 1: for different packages and stuff. Yeah, whatever we're talking about. Nah,
Speaker 1: not here, man. They didn't want nothing to do with
Speaker 1: me a quarterback. I think that was right when Romo
Speaker 1: was was right. You know, you're about to get the
Speaker 1: big boy check. So I don't think they wanted anybody
Speaker 1: challenging his position. But it would have been nice, man.
Speaker 1: It was. It was definitely a hard transit with everything
Speaker 1: I had going on, trying to play at a whole
Speaker 1: new position. But um, you know, any thing's worked out
Speaker 1: the way here as supposed to. You know, right, Tony
Speaker 1: got paid that year. Tony got paid that same year,
Speaker 1: like I was Obervo seven, He got his first big
Speaker 1: boy contract. Ye, yes, he did. What's the furthest you've
Speaker 1: ever thrown a ball in the year eighteen yards I
Speaker 1: think for myself or no no pads on, no pads on.
Speaker 1: I think I did eighty three, and with whippad with
Speaker 1: pads on, I think it was seventy eight. So yeah,
Speaker 1: just just seventy eight, just saying gosh, hey, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not great at math, but if I could
Speaker 1: throw at eighteen yards, he takes eighty three we're in
Speaker 1: the zone for good good we got this. Oh what
Speaker 1: what are some names that that that the fans could
Speaker 1: expect to uh to hear? Call? Who are some guys
Speaker 1: you think at the Cowboys? Rob Nick, Isaia Ady, y'all
Speaker 1: jump in? Who do y'all think that there's some interest
Speaker 1: in either tonight or going into going into Saturday? Uh?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll start, let's uh, I think some defensive
Speaker 1: ends is what I said earlier. I'll throw some names
Speaker 1: out there. I know there's some other positions there, but
Speaker 1: defensive end. You know, you look at a couple of guys,
Speaker 1: you know from the SEC. There's a guy a Taylor
Speaker 1: from Tennessee. There's a Zooniga from Florida. I guess you
Speaker 1: can we get a Shannon Gross. It was this gross
Speaker 1: matels from our matels from Pitts State. Yeah. Yeah, those
Speaker 1: guys right there. I mean that those are some names,
Speaker 1: especially those two Taylor and Zoonaga. They could be there
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys pick either. Those are a couple of
Speaker 1: guys I would look at. Oh yeah, there's only one
Speaker 1: name that I have that I think, Mike Faull to
Speaker 1: the cow Ways. And as much as I wanted to
Speaker 1: defensive end. I think that they have an opportunity, like
Speaker 1: I said, to really lock in that linebacker corps. And
Speaker 1: I think I think they As much as it hurts
Speaker 1: me as a former Washington you know, Husky to say,
Speaker 1: you know, but but Troy Die how to organ I
Speaker 1: think Troy Die. I think he's rangey, he's long, um,
Speaker 1: he's aggressive, and I think he really fits the mold
Speaker 1: that's gonna fit in with you know, vander ash and Jalen.
Speaker 1: So I think they have opportunity to lock that core in.
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys would be together forever. Yeah. In
Speaker 1: the secondary, you know, some of those those quarters that
Speaker 1: were getting some first round buzz. Trevon Diggs is still
Speaker 1: out there. I believe Christian Fulton and and some of
Speaker 1: those top safeties. I've had a man crush on on
Speaker 1: Grant Delpo for a long time. I don't know if
Speaker 1: the Cowboys would go that route, um, but there's there's
Speaker 1: guys on the back end that they're impactful players if
Speaker 1: they want to. You know, if they were to follow
Speaker 1: in that range, they might be interesting for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: to look at for sure, But they gotta they gotta
Speaker 1: waits to go. They gotta they gotta wait about twenty
Speaker 1: picks almost to get there. Huh yeah. I don't know
Speaker 1: if we have the picture of our draft guide that
Speaker 1: we put out, but the guys that did it were
Speaker 1: really excited about the fact that that Ceedee Lamb was
Speaker 1: on the cover and it just really happy about it.
Speaker 1: But if Grant Delpot, who's also on the cover, if
Speaker 1: that guy gets picked, we we land two of our
Speaker 1: three guys on the cover from the Cowboys. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be like the greatest thing ever, so right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know you said, you know delp it Xavieran McKinney,
Speaker 1: I think I think is one of the highest players
Speaker 1: they have still on their board. Um, you know McKinney,
Speaker 1: delp it Um. I think I'm missing a safety or two.
Speaker 1: It's Wield Winfield, Yeah, Winfield. Uh. Those guys right there,
Speaker 1: I mean, they that would be really good if if
Speaker 1: they could could get one of those defensive back I
Speaker 1: just think that they're gonna be in good shape. I
Speaker 1: think somebody that they really like is going to be
Speaker 1: sitting there at eighteen. I mean, I say eighteen fifty
Speaker 1: one fifty one is to pick. It's just eighteenth pick tonight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're pretty You've been pretty good the last several years
Speaker 1: on the later rounds of the draft. You're you're you know,
Speaker 1: you're sixth round and on kind of people that are
Speaker 1: you know, obscure names or something that you've been pretty
Speaker 1: good at hitting on one or two of those every
Speaker 1: every year. Is their name on Day three on Saturday
Speaker 1: that that you could see possibly interest in or or
Speaker 1: anyone you've heard or could be out there that they're
Speaker 1: looking at. Uh. I mean, yeah, we did our our
Speaker 1: mock draft um and and you know, I would put
Speaker 1: a few guys up there. I think there's a corner
Speaker 1: from Louisiana Tech Sneed. I think I think he's a
Speaker 1: guy uh that they they like, and maybe maybe a
Speaker 1: safety from a te Brandon Jones. But then a lot
Speaker 1: of those things change if you if you get some
Speaker 1: you know, guys earlier. It's why it's kind of tough
Speaker 1: to to to make those seven round mocks, because you know,
Speaker 1: you I think they love Chase Chase Claypool from Notre
Speaker 1: Dame third round, but not anymore he's the receiver because
Speaker 1: they got Ceedee Lamb, so that it kind of goes
Speaker 1: out the window. Yeah, is there any concern from any
Speaker 1: of you guys. You're you're really building up this front seven,
Speaker 1: you know with these editions of Poe McCoy. Uh, you
Speaker 1: got a really good, strong front seven. How do you
Speaker 1: feel about the back end of this defense? With Byron
Speaker 1: Jones leaving, Jeff Heath leaving, now you're leaving it in
Speaker 1: the hands of some guys that are really, you know,
Speaker 1: basically you know, kind of unproven or still proving themselves
Speaker 1: in Cheeto and Jordan Lewis and Anthony Brown and then
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods, Like what are you guys, what are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on the secondary and and how do they fix
Speaker 1: that or does it need to don't I'm not sure
Speaker 1: that it needs fixing. I mean, it definitely can can
Speaker 1: use an additional, um, you know, athlete, But I think
Speaker 1: they have good athletes. I think they have guys that
Speaker 1: are very versatile, UM that that can play multiple positions
Speaker 1: out there, UM that aren't necessarily designated to one side
Speaker 1: of the field. And I think that's all you can
Speaker 1: hope for. Right, I mean, like, like I touched on
Speaker 1: in previous shows, you have a heck of a coach
Speaker 1: at that position as well, right, UM and Al Harris
Speaker 1: and somebody who was experienced, somebody who was physical, somebody
Speaker 1: who's gonna you know, be able to show them, to
Speaker 1: show them the ropes from a player, from a player's perspective.
Speaker 1: And again, you know, leaning back on what we've been
Speaker 1: talking about, that front seven, that allows for them the
Speaker 1: time to develop. It allows for them to be able
Speaker 1: to make mistakes and recover from them because they don't
Speaker 1: have to be perfect. So I think that you know,
Speaker 1: with the additions, you know that that they made this
Speaker 1: so far um, that that they're they're in good shape.
Speaker 1: They can grab one more guy um to fit the
Speaker 1: you know, a corner position. I think they'll be happy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, I really I think I got knocked off
Speaker 1: when I was talking about the corners. George Lewis was
Speaker 1: more playing time. I want to see that. I really
Speaker 1: like the Hawk Clinton Dick signing. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: he's he's a rangy guy. That's to me. He looks
Speaker 1: like more of a box safety when I watch him play,
Speaker 1: and he just played for McCarthy. I think that's that's
Speaker 1: a solid signing. I think, you know, past twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: you have to look at what your secondary's gonna look like.
Speaker 1: I mean that there's guys that are up for contract
Speaker 1: and you want to maybe protect yourself a little bit
Speaker 1: by bringing in a guy bringing some competition. You know,
Speaker 1: when Mike Nolan came in and spoke to us first
Speaker 1: time as defensive coordinator, he's talking about, we need to
Speaker 1: we need more takeaways, we need guys that can take
Speaker 1: the ball away. And if you can find a guy
Speaker 1: back there that can do that in this draft and
Speaker 1: add some competition to the group, I think that could
Speaker 1: be really good. You know, guys, I don't want to
Speaker 1: get too far ahead, and this might be an example
Speaker 1: of getting, you know, a little bit ahead of the game.
Speaker 1: But if you look at them, maybe the twenty thirty
Speaker 1: eight draft, but in eighteen years, I think I think
Speaker 1: my son Jacob has a chance to maybe be there
Speaker 1: be alignment or whatever. He's watching right now. I just
Speaker 1: want to say hi to him, Hey, buddy, But you know,
Speaker 1: maybe he's Zach Martin. He's Zach Martin one day. He is.
Speaker 1: He's a big solid and he's kind of thinning out
Speaker 1: a little bit. But he's watching right now. Just he's
Speaker 1: not eligible right now, but he might be about i'd
Speaker 1: say eighteen years yeah, seven, how about seventeen years. He's
Speaker 1: gonna come out early. Yeah. Hey, if the boy goes
Speaker 1: to college, that would be great. That would that that
Speaker 1: would be that would be great. He will though. Oh man, well,
Speaker 1: before we get out of here, are there any any
Speaker 1: party words or anything, any words of wisdom you guys
Speaker 1: have going forward for the next two days of this draft? Defense,
Speaker 1: defens No. I just yeah, yeah, I think I think so.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think I love what Isaiah said.
Speaker 1: I think that's the best best way to say it.
Speaker 1: Jerry got his candy, you know, he got his candy
Speaker 1: and down, you know. Now now you gotta get your vegetables. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so well, we'll see, we'll see what happens. But
Speaker 1: I think I think defense would would be great. But
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be hard to have a bad
Speaker 1: draft at this point. You get the sixth player on
Speaker 1: your board at number seventeen that you're already in the
Speaker 1: A plus range right now in your draft. And we'll
Speaker 1: see how how they finish it off? Yea. How it's
Speaker 1: money right now? Yeah? Absolutely? All right, fellas well, this
Speaker 1: has been fun, Uh, Nick, or any plans on doing
Speaker 1: another one of these before? Uh? For the end of
Speaker 1: the draft or is this just a special occasion. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think so. We The thing about it
Speaker 1: Friday is that you have a little time to have
Speaker 1: a little shelf life. Probably about doing these on Saturday
Speaker 1: is that you know they they're you know, blowing and
Speaker 1: going before you know it in the morning. So uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this was this was fun. But you know, we'll definitely
Speaker 1: be talking on uh next week. And I know Isaiah
Speaker 1: and he's doing well over at Hockey Cowboys and with
Speaker 1: with Rob and Heckma and Kyle and that group. Kyl
Speaker 1: have a lot of things to say, you know, um
Speaker 1: and then uh and you know, and you said it,
Speaker 1: you said it best too. About Jesse, Holly will have
Speaker 1: some things for your show. I'm hanging and Nate n
Speaker 1: I'm hanging with the boys. You know what. I I
Speaker 1: almost hope that they go offense again, because they have
Speaker 1: been screaming for the last three months. You gotta go defense,
Speaker 1: you gotta go defense. If they were to go offense
Speaker 1: back to backgrounds, I think we me and Kurt, which
Speaker 1: we don't talk much on that show anyway, would probably
Speaker 1: not get a word in because they would be so
Speaker 1: pissed off about going offense two picks in a row.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see what happens, just to just
Speaker 1: so we can talk about it on Monday. So, um,
Speaker 1: Rob and Nick, before we get out of here, what
Speaker 1: are some what are some things we can we can
Speaker 1: expect on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Obviously articles on every pick.
Speaker 1: What are some other things that fans can look for
Speaker 1: as uh the next two rounds come up? Oh uh,
Speaker 1: you know that that's that's one thing. Like I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to dodge to the question, but I've learned this
Speaker 1: a long time ago. You can't ever get ahead of things.
Speaker 1: You really, you can't get ahead of the draft, and
Speaker 1: you never know. I mean, yeah, we'll have articles on
Speaker 1: all picks. We'll try to do a little bit more
Speaker 1: on CD lamb um see if we, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: can get him, get some interviews with him and some
Speaker 1: other guys. And uh, you know, his number is still
Speaker 1: out there, like they're still doing a little debating back
Speaker 1: and forth on what number he's gonna wear. So hopefully
Speaker 1: that'll get resolved. If it's eighty eight, I think that
Speaker 1: that'll be interesting. But you know, it's just you know,
Speaker 1: it'll it'll just be um. There's things we don't even
Speaker 1: know about right now that that's going to happen. So
Speaker 1: I wish I had a better answer for you there now.
Speaker 1: It's tuning in the draft show while you're reading. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, check the website every two minutes from
Speaker 1: now to the end of the draft. We could use
Speaker 1: the use the clicks and you'll get some information. So
Speaker 1: there you go. You'll find out when the articles come
Speaker 1: out what we do. So Isaiah good doing a show
Speaker 1: with you. Appreciate you joining us. Rob Good seeing your brother.
Speaker 1: I'll see you soon, hopefully in person before too much longer. Nick,
Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure, even though I talk to you
Speaker 1: about ten times a day, even when we don't do
Speaker 1: these things. I'm sure I'll be talking to you real soon.
Speaker 1: Matt Kent, Chris Beam, thanks for getting us on the air. William,
Speaker 1: thanks for putting us on the website. We will be
Speaker 1: back at some point. Appreciate you all joining us. Looking
Speaker 1: forward to the the draft tonight, the Draft tomorrow, and
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