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Speaker 1: Josh, you're on the Michael Berry Show. Go ahead, sir.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say, whoever put the jingle together

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Speaker 2: with the cars for Kids and your phone numbers diabolical.

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Speaker 1: You are the only person who pointed out that you

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Speaker 1: caught that. There may have been others. Let me tell.

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Speaker 2: You, Sister Station.

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Speaker 1: What's that.

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Speaker 2: I've listened to you on the iHeartRadio, But when I'm

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Speaker 2: in the car, man, I swap over your Sister Station

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Speaker 2: as soon as I hear that that jingle.

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Speaker 1: Come on, Oh it's uh, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why. I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would, it would be interesting to see. I

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Speaker 1: love the concept of what you call in the industry,

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Speaker 1: industry the creative right, so the the the the spot

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Speaker 1: because people tell me that they hate it. But I've

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Speaker 1: always thought it was insanely cachi. And and the problem is, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: you can't help it. And and the problem is it's

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Speaker 1: like walking the Sunset Strip or Times Square. There's so

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Speaker 1: Look over here, Hey, this is here being banged. Sunday

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you another one that cuts through is Mattress Mac.

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Speaker 1: When when Mac comes on TV or radio, he has

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Speaker 1: it's like heming Hemingway's writing. It's short, it's clipped, it's punchy,

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Speaker 1: and it's he goes into that, what's that all right?

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Speaker 1: Marvin Zella came to mind also actually perfect example, perfect example,

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Speaker 1: and in fact, it was always so interesting. When Marvin

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Speaker 1: if that's true, and I should ask Sheriff Fryar because

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Speaker 1: no one would know better than Shara or Dave Ward's wife.

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Speaker 1: I should ask that so anyway, Yeah, but the answer

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Speaker 1: it David next? I've lost my list, Jim, you just

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Speaker 3: David. You're up.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Michael. Yes, sir, I wanted to call in

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Speaker 4: as a father of five homeschooled kids who are now

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Speaker 1: You were ahead of the curve. We already did that

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Speaker 4: We started in Dallas. I was elected the president of

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Speaker 5: Mike you today today, Colonial House Apirements and received out

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Speaker 5: Free and There.

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Speaker 1: Recorded ninety two years ago today. Michael Stoler was born

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Speaker 1: a month later, Jerry Lieber was born Jerome liber Those

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Speaker 1: songwriting duos of all time. There are a number of

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Speaker 1: Was it Baker?

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Speaker 1: I drive musicians prevosts.

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Speaker 1: That's strong right there, that is strong. Dave Ward is beloved.

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Speaker 1: Rush Limbaugh the man. He became so that everybody wanted

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Speaker 1: I suppose when Southwest Airlines is not being coveted and

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Speaker 1: you this, my position has flipped. I love United now,

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Speaker 1: veriyshow dot com, Michael dot com, and I will afford

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Speaker 1: thank you all for everything you did to make that

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