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Speaker 1: Wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. Today October thirty, first, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number sixty five. Welcome to another edition of The Break,

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Speaker 1: live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start,

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Speaker 1: we've got so much to talk about today. Happy Halloween

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Speaker 1: all you guys out there listening. But we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: ahead and jump right in. Um, I guess the news

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Speaker 1: begins with what the way it started? Last night? We

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Speaker 1: get word that there was a ruling in the Zeke

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Speaker 1: I guess, let's let's turn you. You basically tell me

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Speaker 1: five minutes saying we weren't going to get her ruling yesterday.

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Speaker 1: You've quickly become our legal expert on this ship. That's

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Speaker 1: legal experts that botched, I shouldn't even say botched this,

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Speaker 1: But tell us what that means, what would basically what

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Speaker 1: happened yesterday and what that means for Zeke going forward. Well,

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Speaker 1: Zeke and his crew had a two hour hearing with

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Speaker 1: this is the one that we've been talking about for

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Speaker 1: two weeks. The hearing that came after the temporary restraining

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Speaker 1: order was granted before the San Francisco game. She went

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Speaker 1: and denied the preliminary injunction, pulled it and there's a

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Speaker 1: twenty four hour delay, meaning you know, so tonight Ezekiel

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Speaker 1: Elliott's suspension is in line to go into effect. He

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Speaker 1: ask me what that means. I don't really know. We

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Speaker 1: everything I've read describes it as like a nearly zero

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Speaker 1: That's why everybody was talking about New York and the

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Speaker 1: like I said, he can fight this, however far hard

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Speaker 1: I did. I mean I read through it last night.

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Speaker 1: I don't think could have handled this much worse. You

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Speaker 1: But because of things that have happened that the NFL mishandled.

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Speaker 1: I like that. I mean I got thirteen stakes ober here.

428
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's weird, be like, I don't think this. Yeah,

429
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm with Nak. I don't think it changes it that drastically.

430
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 1: But the problem is they're about to play some really

431
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 1: good teams that are that were better than them when

432
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Speaker 1: they had Zeke. In my opinion, like I I don't

433
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: like their chances on Sunday against the Chiefs of Zeke

434
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 1: is in the lineup, to be perfectly honest, just based

435
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: on what I've seen of the Chiefs um Philly interesting

436
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 1: because Jason Peters is out now, but that defense is

437
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: still gross in a good way, and that that hurts

438
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 1: when you don't have a guy like Zeke who can

439
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 1: turn a zero yard gain into a three yard game. Um.

440
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, obviously they're not remotely as good of a

441
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: team without Ezekiel Elliott, but I think they can still

442
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 1: follow the blueprint that they've been following, and it should

443
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 1: give them a chance to be competitive in most of

444
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: these games. Yeah, but I think what you just said

445
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: kind of illustrates how I think about it that in

446
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: those games against those teams that they need to get

447
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 1: wins over, their chances of winning those games was has

448
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: been harmed quite a bit because of the fact that

449
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 1: they don't have what they need. Like you're playing a

450
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: team like Kansas City. Kansas City's offense, in my opinion,

451
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: is one of the best in the league. They've got

452
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,919
Speaker 1: game like, they got guys that can in one play

453
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 1: go to distance right on a return, on a catch,

454
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: on a run, it doesn't matter. They can go to

455
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 1: distance on any one play when you're playing this defense.

456
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Speaker 1: That's not really an opinion so much as a fact. Right,

457
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Speaker 1: did you get Brian's stat sheet this morning? No, I

458
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Speaker 1: haven't looked at. It breaks down like everything they're good

459
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 1: at and where they rank in the league. First, Kansas

460
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 1: City has just won all the way down the pitch. Yeah,

461
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: And so my point is that in order for you

462
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,360
Speaker 1: to beat a team like that, number one, you got

463
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Speaker 1: to keep their offense off the field, which you need

464
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: a good running back to do that, and number two,

465
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: their defenses in the slouch. So you're gonna have to

466
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: be able to drive the ball and be able to

467
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: get those that one yard game, turn that one yard

468
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: game into a three yard game, a four yard game.

469
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Speaker 1: And I haven't seen yet. It doesn't mean they can't

470
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Speaker 1: do it. I haven't seen yet this team function in

471
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Speaker 1: that way without Ezekiel Elliott. I haven't seen Dak be

472
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Speaker 1: the guy without Ezekiel Elliott. There's a lot of things

473
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Speaker 1: that haven't been seen yet. And so for me, I

474
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Speaker 1: look at this and I'm like, I think I can't

475
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Speaker 1: really say that. I think that this will not be

476
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Speaker 1: an appreciable difference than what we've seen just because I

477
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Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet. I don't know. I don't agree

478
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Speaker 1: with that. Really. I will be surprised if they completely

479
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: lose the ability to run the foot. Yeah, Like if

480
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Speaker 1: they just can't do it, if it looks like Denver

481
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Speaker 1: all over again, that would surprise me. I know it's preseason,

482
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: but we saw these guys play just fine all through

483
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Speaker 1: the preseason. Darren McFadden and Alfred Morris. We're having, you know,

484
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 1: eight carries forty nine yards, nine carries fifty six yards

485
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: rod Smith. I know it was garbage time, but he

486
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Speaker 1: looked great against the forty nine ers in the fourth quarters.

487
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: So like, if if they just completely lose the ability

488
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: to run the football, that would surprise me a lot.

489
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Speaker 1: But you just lost arguably the best running back in

490
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Like, it's not gonna be as pretty. You're

491
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: not gonna have as you know, the potential for game

492
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 1: breaking plays quite as much. Again, probably the most important thing.

493
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: I just don't know if you have that battering ram

494
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: player that can consistently turn nothing into something, I think

495
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough. And this is this is definitely

496
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: gonna be a different approach that they can't go into

497
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: it like they've done with you know, Morris gets a series,

498
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, and that's it. I mean, I don't think

499
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: the backup is going to get one series. I think

500
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Speaker 1: you'll see whoever that they decide to start. If they

501
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Speaker 1: decide to start Morris and then go McFadden or or

502
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 1: the just just leap frog Morris with McFadden, or if

503
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: rod Smith jumps out, I mean they're gonna it's gonna

504
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: be interesting to see the dynamic of it. I wouldn't

505
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: be surprised if you see four different players in this

506
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 1: game with five carries or more, I mean, I think

507
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: that that'll happen. Take me back to twenty fifteen, that

508
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: was the last time this team didn't have Ezekiel Elliott.

509
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: And going back to what you said a little bit earlier, Dave,

510
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: they were they were. They didn't fall off the map.

511
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 1: It wasn't like they couldn't run the ball. But I

512
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: do remember there were games. I think I remember you

513
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: guys probably a lot better than that. There were games

514
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: when and in moments when they wanted to run the

515
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: ball and could not do it very effectively. That I

516
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: think may be the difference if I'm remembering that correctly,

517
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: and so yes saying they won't completely fall off. That's

518
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: one thing. They may be able to have yards at

519
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: certain times and games, But when they really need to

520
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: run the ball, will they be able to run the ball.

521
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: That's the big difference. I think the differences between those

522
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: teams are this. Number one, you've got a better offensive

523
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: line than you had then in twenty fifteen. There's no

524
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: way that just from the three all pros you've got,

525
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: they're better players than they were then. And then they

526
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: have to be um. I think that the left guard

527
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: was Lyell Collins. Now it's Jonathan Cooper. I think Cooper

528
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: is better than than Collins was as a rookie rookie

529
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: guard and I you know, I'm Doug Free was kind

530
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 1: of banged up a little bit Collins. They might not

531
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: be as good right there, but their quarterback is better.

532
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: He's more polished than than they than down the stretch there,

533
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: and so you know, you can say McFadden maybe he's

534
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 1: lost a step, but he hasn't had a lot of

535
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: wear and tear on him since that twenty fifteen So

536
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: you got Morris, you got me faddened. They should have

537
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: some fresh legs. You know, they're capable backs. I mean,

538
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a drop off. I'm not saying that

539
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: they can't. You know, it's gonna be exactly the same,

540
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: but I think they can get the job done. The

541
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: Cowboys have played teams this year with backs that probably

542
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: aren't as good, and and it happens there's the NFL

543
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: teams out there that don't have what the Cowboys have

544
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: right now, even without seek well, I I one hundred

545
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 1: percent agree with that, and I think they've done a

546
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 1: good job as good a job being ready for this

547
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: as they could be expected to. But that twenty fifteen

548
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: team was bad in short yardage, and I don't know that.

549
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: I obvious the quarterback situation is so much better, but

550
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: I don't know that I agree that this line is

551
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: better than that line right now. And the other thing

552
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: is like Zeke is basically just like a cinder block.

553
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I think about that fourth down against

554
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: the Packers where it's four yeah, the fourth and win

555
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: where he gets four yeah, and well, and the stretch

556
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: all all of that, Oh that play. I'm sorry. The

557
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: Cowboys have gone forward on fourth and short six times

558
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: this year. Do you think they're gonna do that without Zeke?

559
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think Jason Garrett has the confidence

560
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: to do that without Zeke in the lineup. We'll see

561
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: if I'm right or wrong. But he went forward on

562
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: fourth in a long one at midfield against the Redskins

563
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: because he knew on top of the line, he's got

564
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: a damn battering ram back there. And maybe Rod Smith

565
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: can do it. He's a big guy, he's six three,

566
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: But we haven't seen that. And I wonder if they'll

567
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: have the confidence to play that way. I don't know

568
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: that they will, and I don't know that again, I

569
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: don't know how good it's gonna look when it comes

570
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: time where you've got to get two yards. And that's

571
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: what works with the thing that I would be concerned

572
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: about here is, you know, the guy that I think

573
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: can get the job done is McFadden. I really think that.

574
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: But he's been out for so long that his biggest

575
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 1: problem is hanging onto the football. I mean, and when

576
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: you're not in there, I mean, you know, they're not

577
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: popping and hitting people in practice, even though guys tend

578
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: to get hurt on Wednesdays around here, so maybe they are.

579
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: But um, I just I feel like him kind of

580
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 1: being out of the fray for that long and then

581
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: kind of getting getting in there and getting that first hit.

582
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: I wonder about the rust there and hanging onto the football,

583
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: but I mean, he'll have fresh legs, but you but

584
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: you wonder about the flip side there too. Yeah, this

585
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: is this is gonna be a tough situation, I think.

586
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: And I do wonder if we get three weeks into

587
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: this and we all of a sudden are thinking and

588
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: talking about Rod Smith more, because I do think Rod

589
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: smith is is maybe that kind of his style of

590
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: running is more of the style that can take that

591
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: one yard or to a three yarder, because he's a big,

592
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: like you said, a big, a goal type back. The

593
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: challenge for him is that he's never been the guy.

594
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: He's never actually run, He's never been the primary runner,

595
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: not even in college. I mean, he just hasn't been

596
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: that role for him, and so I don't I would

597
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: like to see more of him. I just don't know

598
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys would be willing to bypass their two

599
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: veterans in order to give it to him. I don't

600
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: trust that this coaching staff will I will see and

601
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: I mean you could argue very easily that he hasn't

602
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: earned it. I mean, when you think about it, it it

603
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: sounds crazy to think, like, well, this third year player

604
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: with like fifteen career carries deserves more of a shot

605
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: than these pro bowlers who have a thousand yards seasons.

606
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: Like that sounds crazy on the surface, But I would

607
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: like to see what he can do. I just and

608
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't expect him to be the lead guy. But

609
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: I hope, I just hope they don't forget about him. Yeah,

610
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: I actually I woke up this morning and I was

611
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: thinking about this. One of the things I thought was,

612
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: I thought it would be really great. How great would

613
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: it be right now for the Cowboys if they had

614
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: one of those young second or third round pick running backs,

615
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: because there is something to the spry, young running back

616
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: and throwing him into the situation like Jagie, you mean, well,

617
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: we can get to that. I mean, he's got some

618
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: issues on his own of you know, I assume, and

619
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: you would have to give up give up a pick

620
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: for him, which I don't know if you want to

621
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: give a fourth round pick for a temporary solution. All

622
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: that being said, we'll get to that. I'm just saying, though,

623
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: when you when you talk about just guys that and

624
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: you see a Dave you do the Draft show every year,

625
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: they're guys in second, third, fourth rounds that are running backs. Said,

626
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: you might not say, Hey, I'm gonna bring this guy

627
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: in to be my you know, five year starter at

628
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: running back. But he's a guy that comes in and

629
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: because he's spry, and he's young, and he has that

630
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: energy that young backs have, you get him into a

631
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: six game mix. He can jump right in and be

632
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: able to get you some really quality starts there, and

633
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: I just personally I like those guys better than it's

634
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: the veterans sometimes because of the they're young and their spry.

635
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: You know, can't cut this out and save it for

636
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: the spring. It's October thirty first, twenty seventeen, and I think,

637
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: give me a name. I think, no, I'm not gonna

638
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: give your name. But I think the Cowboys would be

639
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: bonkers if they don't use a moderately valuable draft asset

640
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: on a running back. I agree with that Zeke is first,

641
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: he has not one percent proven that he is a

642
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: trustworthy guy going forward. We I mean, we just have

643
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: enough time has not passed for us to be able

644
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: to say that he's one slip up away from being

645
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: banned forever? Is that not true? Just in terms of

646
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: domestic I mean afterward if he had another domestic violing

647
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: elsewhere to happen, I don't know, if it's forever, I

648
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: don't know the year. He don't know, another slip up

649
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: away from being in big trouble. Put it that way, um,

650
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: which I will say this domestic I don't think, and

651
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: I could be to totally speaking out of target. I

652
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: don't think domestic violence in this instance, is something like

653
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: drugs where you kind of have a relapse. I don't

654
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: think maybe it is some extra you're a target. Yeah,

655
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's just smart insurance, it's smart thinking ahead.

656
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's going to do something else, but

657
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, just cover yourself against all possible outcomes. But

658
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: Alfred Moore and Darren McFadden are near or on the

659
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: wrong side of thirty. They're both in contract years. Rod

660
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: Smith I like a lot, But again, that's just one guy.

661
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: I would you could convince me to spend a third

662
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: round pick on a running right round. Well, let's think

663
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: about this too. I mean the Cowboys drafted him, were

664
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: excited about him fourth overall, they still spent a sixth

665
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: round pick on a back because they liked him. So

666
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: I know that's not what you're talking about. You're talking

667
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: about earlier than that, but still six would be fine.

668
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: But but but but what I'm saying is is that

669
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: they I think that they all they have that that opinion.

670
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: They had it then because Darius Jackson was a guy

671
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: they liked on their board, so they said, I don't

672
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: know where he fits, you know, and all this, But

673
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: let's just take them. So I think they will do that.

674
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: And you know, you're talking about now Zeke's he'll be

675
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: getting into his third year, and they've said all along that,

676
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean, their opinions have changed on drafting and their

677
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: philosophy has changed on drafting backs because you know, it's

678
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: just basically just five years and didn't turn them. So

679
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to show that he can stay out

680
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: of trouble, that he can stay healthy and do all

681
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: those things to get another contract there. So yeah, I

682
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: think this would be about the time that you would

683
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: do that unless you've, you know, traded your third round

684
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: pick for something here in the trade deadline. Well, let's

685
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: get to that. You guys have been really pushing to

686
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: get to this Jagie talk. I've gotten a lot of sweets.

687
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys have as well. A fan saying

688
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: what are the Cowboys doing? Primarily because trade deadline ends

689
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: today and you've got teams like Philadelphia who are making moves.

690
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: Philadelphia brings in a running back Jedi a And to

691
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: be quite honest with you, that wasn't even nary I

692
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: considered a weakness for them. They've been getting a lot

693
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: of production out of out of there. What's the guy's name,

694
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: Garrett Blunt. He's been running well for them. Now maybe

695
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: it's not as consistent as they want. Maybe they feel

696
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: like they give them themselves another body. Maybe they're protecting

697
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: themselves because he's not the most reliable guy either when

698
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: you talk about off the field stuff. He's had some

699
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: suspensions as well, So maybe this is just kind of

700
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: a protective move to give them a little bit more.

701
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: But either way, they made a move. You've seen a

702
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: couple of other teams make some moves here over the

703
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: last day or so. Do you think the Cowboys, first

704
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: of all, putting on your hats of I know we

705
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: always talk about what should or what would happen? Do you,

706
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: guys expect right now that the Cowboys will make a

707
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: move based on the people that you've talked to and

708
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: what you knew of this team, do you expect that

709
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 1: they will make a move here before the trade deadline?

710
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: I do not expect that, No, but I haven't really

711
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: heard either way. I just I'm just going off of

712
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: nineteen years of trade deadline and I don't I'm sorry,

713
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: I don't remember anything really major happening. So when was

714
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: it right at the trade deadline when they traded for

715
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: Roy Williams or was that earlier in the season than

716
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: that a little bit early in October. It seemed like

717
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: it was early in October. I don't think it was

718
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 1: out at the deadline. Yeah, in my experience, they've only

719
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: ever done trades during the season out of necessity. They

720
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: traded for Bryce Butler because Dez broke his foot. They

721
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: traded for Matt Castle because Tony Romo broke is clavical.

722
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: You could come at me and say that the Zeke

723
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: suspension makes it. But for whatever your opinions of those guys,

724
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: I think they've done a good job. They are already

725
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: covered in that area and they think that as well.

726
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: They've been I mean, they carried extra running backs for

727
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: this very purpose, like they have more than they needed

728
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: all even going back to the spring. Really, so that

729
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: would surprise me. Jerry Jones said this morning that they

730
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 1: you know, sort of you know, they had a couple

731
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: of things in the mill. I think was his jerryism

732
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: for it. I would I'd be surprised. And then you know,

733
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: if if something were to happen, I don't think it's

734
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: going to be a blockbuster, like trading for a Jgie.

735
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: So let me throw this etue just to play Devil's advocate.

736
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 1: You say, they've already covered themselves at the running back position,

737
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: but we all have talked about the fact that in

738
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: order for them to do well over the stretch, the

739
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: other areas of the team are going to have to

740
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: pick up and do more. So when you start talking

741
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: about it from that perspective, are there guys out there

742
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: say at the wide receiver, yes, like Ty, I knew

743
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: where you were going, t Y Hilton. How cool would

744
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: that be? That would be really cool. I don't know

745
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys would do it, but you know, and

746
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: I've read something yesterday. I think it was Chris Mortenson

747
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: that was reporting that basically in Annapolis is like, if

748
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: you're gonna get him, you're gonna have to give up

749
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: something significant. Are you willing to give up a first

750
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: round pick? Are you willing to give up a second

751
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: round yes? Oh, you are willing to give up a

752
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: second round pick? Yeah? I definitely would do that. What

753
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: so I can keep so I can get another Gavin Escobar?

754
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: I mean, their their history on second round pick be

755
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence. Right, Okay, but it's not gonna be a

756
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: high second round pick. Who you got the cult second round? No, No,

757
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: you would give up your own round. How do you know,

758
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: Because it'll be it'll be in the middle, be in

759
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: the middle of. If this whole thing just really goes

760
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: south here during this wall game, it won't. It won't.

761
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: There's still a five hundred team at worst. It's what

762
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: Nick saying. No, you said middle of packs a little

763
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: bit of middle pick. So at worst they're gonna be

764
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: five hundred fifty something like that. I mean, at fifty,

765
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: if you could get a wide receiver who is a

766
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: playmaking receiver, who has speed, who is he's really doesn't

767
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: have a big contract, he probably wants one, but I

768
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: mean he's gone, he's going to want one, but he's

769
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: already proven in the league, and he's you know, he

770
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: gives you something you don't have. I mean, I definitely

771
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: would do that. I don't think their history was second

772
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: round picks haven't haven't been that that great at all.

773
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: So it's their risk taking spot. That's what they do.

774
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: They in the second round is where they kind of

775
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: take some risks and flyers that they've done it for

776
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: five or six years if you were hurt, you were

777
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: a first round or you dropped down here like Bruce Carter,

778
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna take you. So I certainly would in a

779
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: second round. You think their history of what's happened with

780
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 1: big time wide receivers they've brought into trade or through

781
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, through just signing free a do you think

782
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: that effect would affect them making a decision like this.

783
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: Obviously the two that come to mind, or Roy and

784
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 1: uh and then Joey Galloway. You think I would affect

785
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: them making a decision like this where you're gonna give

786
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: up a premium pick in order to get a veteran

787
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Well, that's why I would, Yeah, probably, So

788
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: that's why I don't they wouldn't entertain a first round pick. Yeah,

789
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: I would think they would be burned by taking giving

790
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: them a first rounder. But I think a second rounder

791
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: is completely different. We saw that last year, I mean

792
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: two years ago. You know, do you want it, Randy Gregory? Yeah,

793
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: they wanted them, They wanted them at twenty eight, they

794
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: didn't take them. They took Byron Jones, safer pick. Then

795
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: get to sixty and it's a little different. Now. Now

796
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it? So, yeah, I would. I would

797
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: do it. I mean maybe even a third round pick.

798
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, just tampering, which we're just kind of

799
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: talking about what three just three bros shooting the breeze

800
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: about the trade prospects, other other guys that are out

801
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: there that you guys think would would fit. I've seen

802
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: reports Antonio Brown would Yeah, right, I heard. I've seen

803
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: reports that that Miami might be looking to move on

804
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: from Indomican Sue Um Like, would you would you look

805
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: at would you look at the situations like that? I

806
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: don't know about that one. Where where where's this money

807
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: coming from? Ye? That's true. That goes for Ty too.

808
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: I mean if I'm if I'm giving up a pick

809
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: like that, I'd better be resigning him. Well where's that

810
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: money coming from? Because that's I was again, And it's

811
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: hard to it's hard to project this because you know,

812
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: things change and you restructure contracts. But like they're I

813
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: think they're sitting on like ten million in cap space,

814
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: So they got some work to do when the elite

815
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: when the year ends, just to even have room to

816
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: do everything they want to do, especially if they have

817
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: to franchise tag to Marcus Lawrence. So you're putting a

818
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: mega deal like Sue or I'm thinking t Y Hilton,

819
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna try to I mean, he was the

820
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: leading receiver in the NFL last year. He's gonna want

821
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: big money. You're already paying Deads. You gotta find get

822
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: rid of him or restructure him, whatever you're gonna do there.

823
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,959
Speaker 1: You gotta figure that out. Then you're basically either Deads

824
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: or Terrence. You're saying, sorry, there's no room for you here.

825
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: I know I just gave you a bunch of money,

826
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: but what are we gonna do with you now? Um?

827
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: I just needless complicates things. I'd rather just draft a guy.

828
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: And honestly, here's the thought, a guy like t Y Hilton.

829
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: I know Nick wants that guy that can take the

830
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,479
Speaker 1: top off the defense, but like, does that really fit

831
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 1: what they want to do? Like is this a big

832
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: play offense? In that sense? It could be think about

833
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: it like this, you got anything you wanting to do that,

834
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: but think about it like who traditionally Traditionally, when you

835
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: have an offense that runs the ball really well, what

836
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: really can kill teams is that play action over the top. Right,

837
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: If you've got a guy that can get deep on

838
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: you on any given play and you're running the ball effectively.

839
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: If you start getting that safety to bite up, or

840
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: if you got eight men in the box and you

841
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: just got one safety back there, that's when you really

842
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: can can make sense. Hey, I'm over, I'm over simplifying,

843
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: But like, I just feel like their idea of that

844
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: is like the play action fake and then you throw

845
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: the eighteen yard crossing route to Terrence, and it isn't

846
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: that because they don't have that guy they can take

847
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: the top off the defense, right. Terence is pretty fast, man,

848
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: Like if they wanted him to just run and go

849
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: down the field, I feel like he could. I just

850
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: at the level of a t Y Hilton. I'm not saying, Okay,

851
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: I know there's a difference. That's not my point. I

852
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: just I don't think t Y Hilton is the guy

853
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: that I've been asking about for a long time. That's

854
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: not what I've been talking about. A guy like Ross

855
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: is it Rosston, yeah, the speedy guy out there, or

856
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: Nelson It's Nelson, Um John Ross is Rosy year. But

857
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: you're talking about that kind of talking about In the day,

858
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: was Mike Wallace from you know, um from Mole miss

859
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: or or or or a Ted Gain type. You know,

860
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: somebody that is a complimentary receiver, but he can definitely run.

861
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: Maybe that guy that was playing the other day and

862
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: he's played at Texas and the Bills and track good

863
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: good woman. I mean somebody like that. Um, now you're

864
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: getting into a number one receiver and t Y Hilton

865
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,959
Speaker 1: that does that, then that's a little bit more you know, complicated.

866
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: I guess if if the little short guy is your

867
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: number one, he needs to be like Antonio Brown, and

868
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: he has been, he has been, and so you I

869
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: agree with Day that that kind of complicates things a

870
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: little bit. I think I'd try to work it out

871
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: if you know, if you couldn't. I don't know that

872
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: that guy would change the way the Cowboys would want

873
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: to play offense. I really don't. I think they want

874
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: to hold the ball, and I mean, yeah, if you

875
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Speaker 1: break up play obviously, touchdowns are great, but like they

876
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: they're just they're methodical. They're not that like Big Ben

877
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: type of let's just chunk the ball forty five yards

878
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Speaker 1: eighteen times per game. Like I don't think that's the

879
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Speaker 1: way they would play even if they had a guy

880
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: like that. So I'm envisioning a world where t Y

881
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: Hilton's frustrated because they're not really using them the way

882
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: they're supposed to. And maybe that's just me being pessimistic,

883
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,640
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885
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,080
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886
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890
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Speaker 1: this on a long time. Alvin Joe wasn't that guy

891
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,680
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Speaker 1: They wanted him. Yeah, Rocket Rockets is the guy that

893
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:09,160
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894
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895
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Speaker 1: fast guy. That's what they need, in my opinion, they

896
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: need that. They Terrence and des are kind of the

897
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00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,440
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904
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Speaker 1: but I would be pretty surprised. I'd be surprised if

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Speaker 1: I have a question, hey, Twitter, thank somebody tweeted in

971
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: what about trading for Carlos Hide? That kind of go

972
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: Ohio state guy. That kind of goes back to my point,

973
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: and I like, that's something that people have talked about,

974
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: even you know, weeks ago, when we weren't sure what

975
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: was going to happen with Zeke. You know, I don't

976
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: know what you'd have to give up to get at

977
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: Carlos Hide. I mean, you just got Jay Jay for

978
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick, so maybe not something huge, but

979
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: I just feel like they're they're as good at running

980
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: back as you could hope to be, like as Carlos Hide,

981
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: that much of a pure upgrade over what you have.

982
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: I know he's good, That's not what I'm trying to say.

983
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: But when you're talking about giving up assets to add

984
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Speaker 1: to something that you've already done a reasonably good job

985
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: of addressing, I just you know, if you if you

986
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: want to trade for somebody, trade for a defensive tackle

987
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: or a linebacker or a wide receiver like I just

988
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: I don't know that you need to spend assets to

989
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: add to that. But let's think about this though. Even

990
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: though it sounds like this would be just a quick fix,

991
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: you go into of the season knowing that, Okay, next year,

992
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: McFadden and Alfred Morris, I can't see them here. They're

993
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: both free agents and they maybe they'll sign one of them,

994
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: but not both of them. Rod Smith has kind of

995
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: a unique role. So if you traded for a running back,

996
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: maybe it was we'll say a guy like that Hide

997
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: or somebody, a younger player, he would have a role.

998
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: Even next year, even when Zeke came back, you were

999
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: talking about drafting a player in the third or fourth round.

1000
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: If you could get a relatively young back with not

1001
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Speaker 1: a lot of tread on the tires. I mean, I mean,

1002
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Speaker 1: I think you'd be okay, I'm trying to remember. I

1003
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Speaker 1: guess you would want tread on the tires. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to remember, not a lot of mileage on the car. Sorry,

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00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember when he was drafted. He was

1006
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: he was the guy at Ohio State before Zeke, so

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00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: he I'm guessing he was drafted in twenty fourteen, which

1008
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean that so he's in a contract year. I

1009
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Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah, second round pick twenty fourteen, so he's

1010
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: in a contract here. Yeah. Also that's why, Yeah, that's

1011
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: why you trade him because they didn't have to resign him. Also,

1012
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: would Carlo well, yeah, would Carlos Hide want to be

1013
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: a backup? I mean, he's good enough to be a starter,

1014
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: and that's what he would presumably be like and so,

1015
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: but he would love this opportunity because if he's going

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Speaker 1: to be a free agent, he gets could certainly do

1017
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: a great work for himself, there's no doubt about. That's

1018
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: actually really good point because that's the thing. You look

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00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: at this and the running back has I mean or

1020
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: whatever the position you're getting they have to. You have

1021
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: to feel like as a team they're going to help

1022
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: you just for a short period of time. All you're

1023
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Speaker 1: doing is renting them. So this is a great opportunity

1024
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: to be able to go ahead and get a player

1025
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: like this that you can rent basically for six weeks.

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00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: Gives him an opportunity to show what he can do

1027
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Speaker 1: then become a free agent. Gives you an opportunity to

1028
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Speaker 1: get a great player for a specific amount of time

1029
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: just to tide you over until you guys. And it's

1030
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Speaker 1: a position that you can rent and not every position

1031
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: you come in and you and you can do that.

1032
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Speaker 1: And that's the kind of the scary part about Jagie

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1034
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Speaker 1: Wednesday Thursday, you pretty much know what they're trying to do.

1035
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Speaker 1: If you're a wide receiver, I don't know. If a

1036
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1037
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: of time to get him to be dominant running back,

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Speaker 1: though you can get That's why you see rookies that

1039
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Speaker 1: come in and do it well early. It's there's not

1040
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Speaker 1: a lot to it. Here's the ball, go to that gap,

1041
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: make a cut and do what you do. I mean,

1042
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Speaker 1: I know there's more to it than that, especially when

1043
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: it comes to blocking, blitzes and stuff like that, but

1044
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: running backs can come in and make an impact. Let's

1045
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Speaker 1: just suppose for the purposes of this, that the Cowboys

1046
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Speaker 1: pick number one, twenty eight in the fourth round next year.

1047
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: That's what the forty nine ers want for Carlos Hide.

1048
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Speaker 1: Give them that, and you get Carlos Hide plus what

1049
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: you've already got for the next six games and beyond.

1050
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: So how many games are left? Eleven? Nine? Damn already

1051
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: halfway through? So you got that for nine games? I

1052
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: said nine? Oh okay, no, I said nine. Don't say twelve. No,

1053
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Speaker 1: I didn't. You have Carlos Hide and those guys for

1054
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 1: nine games and then you got to figure that out,

1055
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: or you just take what you already got, get through

1056
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: this stretch, and then you have pick one twenty eight

1057
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: to spend on a running back who will be under

1058
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 1: contract with you for four years. I think that's about

1059
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: long term play. I think that's a panic move to

1060
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: go get a guy like Carlos Hyde when, like I said,

1061
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: you're about as reasonably well set up as you could

1062
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: expect to be at that position, and you can address

1063
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: it next year, and you will at some point have

1064
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: Zeke again. I just I don't think that's something that

1065
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: you need or should do. I think the other thing

1066
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: to consider here, though, is everybody's looking at this as

1067
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: six games. The likelihood that Zeke comes back after six

1068
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: games and is ready to just pick up where you

1069
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: left off is I think. I think that's being a

1070
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: little naive. But you won't need him too, because Alfred

1071
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: Morris will just be ripping off one hundred and sixty

1072
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: yard games. Yeah, if one of these backs gets into

1073
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: a nice groove, that's a good thing to have, because

1074
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: really you're gonna have and looking at the way this

1075
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: team brings players backs, they're gonna ease him in. They're

1076
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: not just gonna go in and just throw the whole

1077
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: load at him when he comes back. I don't think so.

1078
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: All that being said, I think you have to look

1079
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: at this and say, really, your expectation is you want

1080
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: to have Zeke back and hitting a stride if and

1081
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: when you get to the playoffs. What did everybody say

1082
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: about Romo when he was with row momentum? Is that

1083
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: what they called it about to have some Alfie momentum?

1084
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 1: All right? Get ready you believe in that? Not really,

1085
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: but I think I'm not. I don't believe that Alfred

1086
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: can't do it. I actually think Alfred can run well

1087
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: against I think I think, I don't know. I'm rooting

1088
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: like hell for him because he's probably the best guy

1089
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: in that locker, absolutely, and he's shown flashes when he's

1090
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: had opportunities. He's got the longest run of the season still,

1091
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: So I mean, like, I don't I don't think they're

1092
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: gonna be hopeless. I'm I'm intrigued to see how he does.

1093
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: I hope he does well. YEA, all right, let's get

1094
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: a phone call. We have a call from Steven, New York. Steve,

1095
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: what up? How you doing guys? Thank you? UM obviously

1096
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: very concerned about the next six games. I'm curious. I

1097
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: agree with me on this. I mean, you know, Morris

1098
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: McCadden of whoever the good players with I don't think

1099
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: you could just plug them in and expect them to

1100
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: do what Zeke is on without adjusting the offense. What

1101
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: I mean by that, it's not only from a production

1102
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: standpoint about blocking. I think a lot of people are

1103
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: forgetting how blocker that Zeke was. Yeah, no, there's I mean,

1104
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: he had a play in this game. I think it

1105
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: was either this, No, I think it was San Francisco,

1106
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: Like he just absolutely blew up an oncoming linebacker and

1107
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: gave Dak the time he needed. And I mean he's

1108
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: good for one or two of those per game. Like,

1109
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: he's really underrated as a blocker, There's no doubt about that.

1110
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: Darren McFadden struggled with that in the preseason. That's something

1111
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: to remember. But I don't know it is what it is.

1112
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: I mean, play Devil's Advocate. They plugged Darren McFadden in

1113
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: after the bye week in twenty fifteen, and in his

1114
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,479
Speaker 1: first real chance to start, he ran for one twenty

1115
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: nine against the Giants. So from a running perspective, I

1116
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: really do think, like I said earlier, I'll be shocked.

1117
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: If they just absolutely can't run the ball, you're gonna

1118
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: miss Zeke. But I still think they'll be able to

1119
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: move the ball on the ground. I thought that was

1120
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: a lot more than that thought. Yeah, I mean one

1121
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: twenty nine against the Giants. I think so, But I mean,

1122
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: like that's I'm not thinking one sixty now. I think

1123
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: you're spoiled by a year and a half of watching

1124
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: Zeke do that on the rag, but I think it

1125
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: was one twenty nine. I'm pretty sure the rag on

1126
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: the regre for with any Powers? Okay, um no, I

1127
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: mean the thing about Zeke that which is so different

1128
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: than those other guys is that you know, when you

1129
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: think about the three you have, now you know who's

1130
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: the fastest of the three? Um, probably McFadden. I think

1131
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know, Yeah, but you know who's the best,

1132
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: the best and third and one? You know, you don't

1133
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: really know who's the best pass catcher. You know, maybe

1134
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,959
Speaker 1: maybe it's Ross Smith. You know who who's who's your best?

1135
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: Got to start. The thing is is Zeke is the

1136
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: answer to every question you've got when it comes to

1137
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: running back. That's why it's really hard to get him

1138
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: off the field. So now it's just it's gonna be

1139
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: tough to like mix and match who who does what?

1140
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: But I do think it'll open things up a little

1141
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: bit more. I think teams will have to figure out

1142
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: how to play them. It is unrelated shout out Matt

1143
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton's under contract for a while. I didn't

1144
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: know that they sign them. I cover the Cowboys. It's

1145
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: not the Colts. Sorry, but I still don't think it's

1146
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I assume it's a hefty contract and

1147
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: it's not something I'm trying to take on. I mean,

1148
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: that's the thing either way, And I think you guys

1149
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: said it at the beginning of this, the segment where

1150
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: we talked about this. The Cowboys are not one of

1151
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: those teams that gets out and as a big player

1152
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: in trade deadlines, a big player in free agency, they

1153
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: look for bargain deals. They really expect to build their

1154
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: talent through the draft, and so everything else is just

1155
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: kind of the little add ons where they can get

1156
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,959
Speaker 1: hopefully a deal here or there and they can pop,

1157
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: and one or two of them can pop, but that's

1158
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 1: not really their thing. Hasn't been their thing for years.

1159
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm about to selling Mickey Spagnola, and I apologize in advance,

1160
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: I really do, But well, it's something that I thought

1161
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: about though. You know, these trades are happening. Jagi is

1162
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: an Eagle now and people like, well, the Cowboys aren't bold.

1163
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: That's why they haven't won any Super Bowls in twenty years,

1164
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: and like that, I didn't I wouldn't even hear and

1165
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: I know that that's disingenuous, because half the reason the

1166
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys were so inept for half of that time was

1167
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: because they were doing stuff like that and screwing it up.

1168
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you're going to get Joey Galloway, you're going

1169
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: to get Roy Williams, You're moving all over the draft,

1170
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: You're making you questionable decisions, and from what ninety eight

1171
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: until oh six, that was the philosophy that permeated this

1172
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: team and it set them back. I mean, it's not

1173
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: just like they were going eight and eight. They were

1174
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: bad for a real bad for a solid junk of that.

1175
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: And so I get that. It's frustrating because you want

1176
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: your team to do things to make itself better. But

1177
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: in the way the NFL is structured, I just think

1178
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: it's so much smarter to mitigate your risk. And that's

1179
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: what you do when you build through the draft, because

1180
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: you're dealing with small contracts your deal. Again, none of

1181
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: your free agent signings from the spring panned out, but

1182
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because you didn't invest them in them anyway.

1183
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: So it's disappointing, but it doesn't set you back months

1184
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: and years like it did when you were doing those

1185
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: bold things. So I just think it's so much smarter

1186
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: to build this low risk way where your hits hit

1187
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: big and your losses are mitigated by the fact that

1188
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: you didn't put that much into them. Yeah, I will

1189
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: say this, I do think, just to kind of go

1190
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: a little bit on the other side, I think they're

1191
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: probably fans out there to say, hey, isn't there a

1192
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: middle ground, Like there was a time you're right and

1193
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: during that period when they were just going out and

1194
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: they were going crazy and free agency they'd get you know,

1195
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: in three years or you remember that ours still remember

1196
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: that one big day or two days where they signed

1197
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: all these free agents and spend all this money like

1198
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: they were going all in. But there is a middle

1199
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: ground where you say, maybe there's one guy, one particular

1200
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: guy that you like. This guy completely fits what we're

1201
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: trying to do. The money's gonna work, and and it's

1202
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: a guy that that will completely change and help us

1203
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: be better than what we were before. There's that middle

1204
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: ground where I think fans want them to at least

1205
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: be in that middle ground versus just being hey, we

1206
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: only want the bargain deals and and other than that,

1207
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: we're going to build through the draft for the most

1208
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: that the compensatory picks too. You know, for next year,

1209
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna have some because you lost a lot of

1210
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: free agents, so you're gonna have extra picks, maybe in

1211
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: the middle round a little bit later on you can trade.

1212
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: You can trade them now, so you are going to

1213
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: have that a little bit. I know that they're already

1214
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: factoring that end. So when you're thinking fourth, fifth round,

1215
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have more than one of those picks,

1216
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: so it maybe it'd be easier to pull the trigger

1217
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: on that. I think they they traded away one of

1218
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,959
Speaker 1: their picks this year, I think, but they's they still

1219
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: should pick nine or ten times. Yeah, all right, guys,

1220
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us back tomorrow nine thirty a m.

1221
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Speaker 1: Till then for Nick even Dave Hellman. I'm Derek Eagleton.

1222
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