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Listen, man, welcome to the 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.119 Breakfast Club this morning, presented to you by million dollars 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:20.399 worth a game. Listen, Man, we didn't bought the company. 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:21.319 Man is good. 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.000 It's going down. Man, We're doing it big now. Man, 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.039 got my brother right here. I'm so proud of you. Listen, Man, listen, 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:28.400 I want to give you before I even start. I 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.720 gotta give you your flowers because you be man. You 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:32.920 me and you had several phone calls. We had a 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.200 thousand phone calls. A couple of years ago. You hit 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:37.600 me up. He was like, Wowow, you need a book. 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:39.440 This is years ago, and you was talking about how 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.759 you and keV was talking about you, and Kevin Hart 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:43.560 was talking about the man Wallow would be crazy on 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.800 the audio book, which I did. On audio book, Shout 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.640 out to you know, shout out the Yana Van's ant 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.720 also who did the audio. She did the forward for me. 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.360 Shout out to thirteen name my publisher man for you know, yes, 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.960 for making it happen Simon and Schuster. But we're here now. 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:00.840 You told me you keep telling me about the book 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:02.560 of your book. The book changed your life's right and 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:05.600 the book, the book, that's all you kept saying. And 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.200 now we're here, man, all with good attentions, you know, 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:09.720 and it's game changed. 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:11.679 The book title is perfect for you because there's not 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.240 too many people on this planet who come with good 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.679 intentions like Wilow does appreciate that. 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:18.680 When did you develop that mentality? 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.160 I don't know, man. I was on the street corners. 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:23.560 I was, I was. I had good intentions on the 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.560 street corners. I just, I just, I just wanted to 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:27.560 steal American dream. And I said, man, this shit is 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.840 too slow. And I never seen nobody in my neighborhood. 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.400 The only people that got respected my neighborhood was successful criminals. 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:36.880 So even though I was a good person growing up, 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.040 my grandma raised me, well my mom, you know, you know, 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:41.919 I was like, I gotta figure this out. So I said, 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:43.480 I got to I got man. The only people they 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.360 respect out is the people that's winning by any means. 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.200 And then even in America, I was like, damn, hold up, America. 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:52.400 They only respect the scarface, they only respect the Godfather. 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.840 They don't respect nobody else. I gotta go get some money. 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.880 So I just figured out, you know, even though my 0:02:57.960 --> 0:02:59.320 heart was good, I had to go figure it out. 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.120 And that led me to prison most of my life. 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:05.160 And and but you know, even in there thirteen years, 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:09.480 right twenty or twenty, I did twenty penitentiary five years 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.639 and then out the juvenile system. And even in that, 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.200 I remember, you know, over here, said all I did 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.079 was laughing jail and just do what I needed to do, 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.119 educate myself because I realized that, and to the point 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:20.600 where somebody said I was one of the nicest dude 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:24.639 in prison because I knew why I was there. I 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.480 did mine so I was accountable for my bullshit, so 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:29.600 you know, and that helped me change and develop into 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:33.800 what I become today. And you know, I'm just happy 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.600 to be here and I and I try my best 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.080 to share all the knowledge that I got, as you know, 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.400 with our people, to show us. Listen, we're bigger than 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.600 what y'all think we are. Because I always say this, 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:46.560 and it's crazy to me. It's like, you know, back 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.160 in the day, we didn't have nothing, but we had 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.840 everything because we had each other and that was important. 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.920 And it's like it seemed like now, we find so 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.600 many raids, so many reasons not to deal with each other, 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:03.960 and it's like, God, damn, who you working for? You 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:05.880 go on social media, it's like who you're working for? 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.360 But I had to realize something. A lot of us 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.120 don't want to look in that mirror and deal with it. 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:15.040 I don't hate envy because if his money, his cars, 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:19.200 his family's marriage. I hate envy because envy getting love 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:21.000 for doing something that I always wanted to do, but 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:22.520 I ain't have enough heart to go out here and 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.240 do it. No, I'm not talking about that. I'm just 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.760 talking about the general. Yeah he do got that Beijing, 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.480 But I'm just saying, like, shut up to Beijing, give medals. 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.680 But but like this and therapist, damn, okay, you better 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:34.479 be paying you the way you. 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:36.839 Promo. 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:40.279 But but what I'm saying is like that's how culture became. 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:42.760 It became like this in social media made it like 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:45.880 a lot of people got to look in the mirror 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.840 and say, damn, I didn't materialize my dreams. And that's 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:50.920 the hardest thing to do, is you know. So it's 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.880 more easy to say Charlemagne the sucker, envy this lord, 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.440 this just this it's much more easy to say it 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:57.680 than to say, let me get off my ass and 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.120 go ahead and do something with my life. So but 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.040 it's just it's just sad out here when you see 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.640 it now, and it's like we just I don't know, man, 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.440 And all we ever had was each other. That's the 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:07.840 only way we ever made it in life. 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:09.920 You said in the book, you said, it's actually in 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:11.400 the chapter Arm of Good Intentions. 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.240 You said you screamed out one day and you made 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.479 it a daily reminded that nobody will save. 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:19.200 You, nobody. Especially when I was in prison, I'm like, 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:21.760 we complain in the we doing. I'm like, yo, bro, 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:25.480 we inside these white folks, spot ain't nobody coming? Like 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:27.880 if this shit go off anything, we're gonna be locked 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:29.960 in these selves. Ain't nobody coming. But that's the same 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.080 thing in the ghetto. Ain't nobody never come? And save nobody? 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:33.120 Who saves him? 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:35.480 What was the change for you? What was because you 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:36.200 said you were in and out? 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:37.920 What was the change? You said, I gotta get this 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:39.599 right and I gotta change myself. 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:42.600 Like to be realistic, man, I got tired tired of 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:44.720 being in jail with a bunch of with a bunch 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:46.760 of niggas. You see what I'm saying. I wanted to 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:48.040 take a butt nigga shower, you know what I mean. 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.240 I couldn't do that. I wanted to sleep neked in 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:51.520 the bed. I couldn't do that because I'm in the 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:53.120 second to sell you. I don't know if he might 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:54.680 wake up in the middle of night be like, yo, man, 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:56.680 let me I need to parts of that, like what 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:00.840 we're doing straight up, wake up in the middle of 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.000 night and be like, hey, my man, let's let's figure 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:06.120 something out, you know what I mean. So I don't know. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.719 I'm just being real because listen, you know what's crazy. 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:10.640 I think one of the reasons I bade it through 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.480 jail so smoothly because I was always a comedian on 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.440 the low, you know what I'm saying. I was always funny. 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.440 They was like, hey, I mean I was because I 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:19.880 was in there scared to death. You know how dudes 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:21.320 come on from jail. I'll be trying to wonder that 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:22.800 I did all this time in jail. I'll be like, 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:25.839 what program was you on that you wasn't scared in jail, 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:27.799 that you was just so tough because I was scared 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.040 to death. Soon they listen. As soon as that judge 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:31.800 gave me them numbers and they you know, you had 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.000 your shoe, had your thing together. It ain't about nothing. Mean, 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.600 sh ain't about nothing. I looked at her. You all right, 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.640 say my little words back before you see them. It's 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:41.600 back and forth. Word player I had with the judge 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.760 is that he be back on, walked in the joint. 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:45.480 You know what I mean. Now you gotta do the 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.120 walk back in because now you're going back into the 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.280 cages where everybody looking at you when you come down. 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.320 What they give you what it shit ain't about nothing, man. 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.000 They gave me a little twenties man. That shit ain't nothing. 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.520 A little listen, that's the that's the cat. That's the cat. 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:58.920 By the time I get to my my cell later 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:00.760 on that I threw that tie up, crying like a 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:03.600 baby man for a new born. And then and then 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.520 once you the shackles hit you box like an animal, 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.120 the shackles going from your arm to your feet. You 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:13.600 get upstate, you hit that penitentiary yard, and you like, well, 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.240 my mom, man, oh ship, I ain't know it was 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.880 like this. I'm seeing people with knights longer than the 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:19.559 giraffe trunk. 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.560 I'm like, Ship, I old you I was. 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.600 I was. I went to the penitential when I was seventeen, 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.440 but I hit the big prison yard when I turned eighteen. 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.680 I was in Dallas Penitentiary in Pennsylvania. And uh, that 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.120 was like that was a different type of Joe. 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:30.280 Man. 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:31.880 I'm seeing people get married in the yard and all 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:33.600 that shit. I'm like, I ain't trying to be nobody's wife. 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.080 I ain't sign up for this ship, so I'm not. 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.920 I'm looking like married in the yard. People was getting 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:43.360 married in the yard. I said, damn, man, real weddings. 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.520 Though it was real weddings, like it wasn't th like 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.600 if you got the Bible when you got somebody that's official, 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:49.960 like you. 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:50.840 Were just in the yard. 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:55.320 I was walking the yard. I was. I was in 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:57.080 the backub because I was walking in the yard. So 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.280 I'm like, I'm sitting there and I'm like, oh, Ship, 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.240 i ain't trying to get married in the yard, man, Damn, 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:04.920 like want some real shit. And then I'm seeing people 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:06.880 getting stabbed in on I'm like, yo, I'm not trying 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.000 to So I would go to my cell and be like, Yo, 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:10.680 what the fuck is going on. I ain't signed up 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.760 for this because nobody tell you this, because only stories 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:15.400 that we hear back in the hood about jail is 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.000 that you come home and you get rewarded and you 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.360 get acknowledged and you tough and all this other shit. 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.400 You get muscles. But I'm like, I'm like, damn, ain't 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.120 nobody talking about the scary part. So I had to 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:25.880 be the one to tell the scary part, to tell 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.400 a real part, because I was scared. Especially listen when 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.280 I first listened, no bullshit, I get up to the 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.280 big penitentiary. This was this was the one. I get 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:35.600 up to the big penitition. It is why I get 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:37.240 always fuck with me about it because I tell you 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.240 stories I get up to that, stories from the cell. 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.200 So I get up to the penitentiary. It's shower time. 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.120 I go down there. I got my boxes on and 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:46.640 all that. So I'm like, damn, we go down there, 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.480 and this is my first time in a real cause. 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:53.240 It's like it was like I started. I went to 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.720 the penitentiary when a young When a lot of younger 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.280 dudes started to go like you was getting certified as 0:08:58.280 --> 0:08:59.920 an adult. They created a new law so a lot 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.120 only time it was no young boys in the one penitential. 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.720 I went two dollars penitentials, mostly old heads, and they 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.280 had the most lifers in the state of Pennsylvania at 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.760 this time. So you could be in a cell with anybody. 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:12.079 You could do one year of being a cell with 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:13.839 a lifer. It don't matter. So I go, I go 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:15.959 to go to the shower. So I got my towel on, 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.960 my boxes on, and when I went to the shower, right, 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.720 I go down there steamed up in everything. The shower 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.760 is probably like it's probably like in that joint, probably 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:29.280 maybe fifteen shower heads and a block got a hundred 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.559 and something dudes on there. So when I go in 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.680 the shower room, it was like a movie. Like everybody 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:36.719 looked at me, like, while you got the boxes on, 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.480 anybody else told me it was a I'm talking about 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:40.680 it was a sword showing that joint. 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:40.800 Man. 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.800 No, No, I'm just like no, it's like that's not normal, 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.920 like you and I'm like, you know what. That day 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:51.200 I realized that a shower wasn't important than the bird bath. 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:53.199 I said, I could go back to myself and just 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.679 wash up there. Why would I need? Why I do 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.679 a shower really mean that you ain't taking shower the 0:09:58.720 --> 0:09:59.040 whole way. 0:09:59.240 --> 0:09:59.280 No. 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:00.800 I took it for out till I just you know, 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.559 went down there, and because because I had that, I 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.640 was like, damn, man, like why everybody gotta be naked 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:07.160 in this joint? 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:07.360 Man? 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:10.679 And then they looking at you, and then they talking 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:13.120 like like they'd be asked. They talking, Yeah, you see 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.400 the game? Oh man, what's the name? Went off him Smith. 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.440 I'm like, man, we ain't supposed like y'all supposed to. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:18.760 Be doing this. 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.559 I don't know when did you get like like like 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.640 comfortable with it, like your first necade shower? 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:23.959 Were you? 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:31.640 I never got the next show? Yeah, but I got 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:33.040 one when I got to the jail where you get 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.600 your own booth. I wasn't trying to be a party 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.280 because it's like it's like a volunteer, like you volunteering something. 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:39.199 How long it took to do that? 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.040 Oh years, two years? But different jail, different part of 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:43.880 the jail got different sections where you get a single shower. 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:45.560 So in that jail was joints, we got the single 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.040 shower locked in. But it was like, man, I always 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.760 feel it like that was the volunteer services, like you 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:52.839 was you was you was giving imitations to something, so 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:53.400 I didn't know. 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.839 Was the was the coke kine story real like that 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:57.640 Bootsy be talking about sometimes. But I was a different 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.240 prison though, But I think it might be the same 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.560 prison one say when you see a coke cane. 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:01.960 In the shop. 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.959 No, no, it's different. Different, different things go on in 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:07.840 different prisons. I can't speak to that because I wasn't 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.880 in the geographical location to him. But it's different stuff 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.000 fast state, different states. But it's like, I just knew 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.360 that they signaled side of me in your in the 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:21.400 prison was what you mean signal? It was people was 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.959 making love to slow music. Man, it wasn't no like 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:26.679 you knew what time it was. Dudes had the red light. 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:30.960 Listen bro dudes, haid dudes, shoo to take dudes, No, no, no, listen, dudes, 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:32.559 you to take paint and paint they like red to 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.240 be red lights red like span. 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:36.120 Man. 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:37.720 They got the music playing. You like, don't look at 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.120 that sound because you wanted to look at nobody's sound. 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.480 So I'm like, man, I you know you can't look 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:43.120 at nobody. 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:44.959 Sell But that's the signal. Though. The signal was the 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:46.360 red No It could be anything. 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:47.880 Man. You could walk in the bathroom in the yard, 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.079 somebody be tongue kissing and you know, romantic. 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:50.640 I don't know. 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.040 It was a lot of stuff. Jesus Christ. I just 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:54.800 knew that. I just wanted to make it out innocent, 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.520 removed from me, that's all. But it was wild, man. 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:00.840 But I knew it was certainly, is why I knew. 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.640 I said, oh, man, I can't, I can't, I can't. 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:05.319 I can't go back to this hit. Dude put something 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:06.160 on my bed one time. 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:06.960 I didn't. 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:10.559 I didn't even No, no, this what happened. No, no, no, 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.280 this what happened. So what happened is my laundry came 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.120 back folded, and I'm like, damn, man, this is these 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:20.959 people man fold your laundry and everything. Man, I'm happy 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.360 as ship laundry. There was a couple of snacks left. 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.480 I'm like, So, I'm like, damn, this is what's up. 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.559 So O G from down the way. He peeped, you 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:28.959 know what I mean? 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:29.880 I asked him. 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:31.880 I said, damn, man, they dad? He said, what they did? 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:32.000 What? 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:34.760 So he went and checked the older dude that did it. 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:36.840 The older dude was trying to go on the date. 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:38.199 But I didn't know it was. I didn't know that. 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:39.280 What did he leave though? 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:40.800 No, no, no, no, no, he didn't leave. 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:41.240 No, no, he know. 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.199 He left some nice uh. He had a box of 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.559 nutty bars. It was some suits and chips and it 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:50.400 was a nice It wasn't listen when they told me 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:51.839 i'd have had it was a nice bread, you know 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:52.160 what I mean. 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:53.520 So you gave it back to him, got to give 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:53.960 it back to him. 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:55.240 I had to give it back to him if you 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:55.679 accept it. 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:55.839 No. 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:59.000 No, But it wasn't just that he folded my laundry. 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:00.880 He worked in the laundry, made my drawers and all 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:02.959 it was folded. So I'm thinking, like, damn, this is 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.560 the pro this, this is the protocol of what they Damn. 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:07.319 I'm like, damn, they got some good service here, you 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.559 know what I mean. But once I realized that he 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:11.800 was looking for a date, I didn't I said, oh, ship, 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:13.679 you see what I'm saying. Lucky that I had the 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.240 old head did because I don't know what the happened. Yeah, yeah, 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:17.640 but it was crazy. It was crazy, man. 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:19.280 That's why y'all got to read this book. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:20.280 It was deep, man. 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:25.400 You dedicated the book The Low Steve, Aunt Ruby, Grandma 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:27.880 or Uncle James, Uncle Tommy and hip Hop. 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:30.079 How did you know hip Yeah, that's my step Hop. 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.520 How did each of those people contribute to your journey? 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:34.360 Mim Ruby? First of all, my grandma and this is 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:40.520 my grandma and Nanny. She's she'd be ninety September thirtieth. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:45.360 He's extraordinary Ruby and her used to always gang war 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.679 min Ruby. You know, she was the only person I've 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:51.080 seen straight my grandma out, and don't nobody straight Nanny out. 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:52.520 And they used to be going and this this was 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.560 her younger sister, oh Man, and I used to call 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:56.400 home from jail. The stories that an Ruby used to 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:00.719 tell me was unbelievable. But Iron Ruby was. She just 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.080 was different. And she loved me, love us, love us 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.439 on me. She wound up passing, and she passed my 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.280 grandma house the middle room that I wound up making 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.120 parole to. That was one of the reasons I was 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:13.480 able to make parole because you know whatever, But God 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:17.400 bless her. My Grandma Aura, she passed when I was 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:21.680 in prison. She was amazing, always real, tell you just 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.360 like it is. She was from the streets. Uncle Tommy 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:29.520 passed since I've been home. Was my big brother. He 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.080 passed my grandma arms in the crib, he got shot, 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:34.560 ran down the street, died in grandma arms. She opened 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:38.160 the door he aspired. That was my guy. But everybody, 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:42.040 them people is personal, you see what I'm saying. And uh, 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.400 they were special in my life in different ways. They 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.200 helped me in so many different ways. And it's things 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.320 that I carry today that I got from them doing 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:50.880 my journey through, you know, doing especially when they was here. 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.560 And I always want to remember them people because I 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:58.360 feel as though a lot of people get forgotten that 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.680 give us so much just because they're not there. And 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:05.920 I always feel like you really live when you outlive 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.880 how much you lived. And I'm saying that you really 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.600 live when you outlive how much you live. It's people 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:16.080 from our culture that outlive how much they live. You've ratheriged, Bossy. 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:20.000 I't rabge certain people they lived longer after life than 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.720 they did their life as But we don't do that 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:24.440 with our family members and the people that we love 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.840 and the people that we know personally. We keep other 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.120 people alive based off celebrity, but we won't keep the 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.160 people alive that was personally personal to us. They get 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.160 buried and the thank yous and all that shit somewhere 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.840 and sometimes forgotten. So I always try to remember my 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:40.280 people that died, they gave so much to me. 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.440 Would believe you right now, like if he saw the 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:44.520 position you was in when. 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.960 He believed no on everything. I love my brother be 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:48.520 doing just what gilby doing. We call me know that 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.120 as nigga look as you just another ass nigga ball because. 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:51.280 That was him. 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:52.840 He's a funny boy. He was all he wanted to 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.680 do is laugh all day. I'm just thankful that I 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:57.960 was able to the greatest thing that I ever did 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.880 in life and the history of my life was forgiving 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.800 my brother's killer. And the reason that was so important 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:08.360 to me because the ghetto nothing superseded. Nothing is. The 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:12.120 hierarchy is to get and the ghetto is revenge. But 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:13.720