Speaker 1: All right, we got a brand new episode for you.
Speaker 2: It is the Second Date Podcast and this is Brooke
Speaker 2: and Jeffrey in the Morning. And when I say the
Speaker 2: entire room was shocked, that is a understatement. When we
Speaker 2: found out the real reason this guy wanted to switch
Speaker 2: tables at the restaurant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still mid gas, dude.
Speaker 2: Seriously, seriously, this one is gonna blow you away. And
Speaker 2: I know there's gonna be a lot of comments on it,
Speaker 2: So let's get to those comments that we've got from
Speaker 2: this week.
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Speaker 1: Hey, we love it, and let's get this episode started.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the second date of day.
Speaker 5: If you go out on a really good first date,
Speaker 5: it might end in a little kiss, It could end
Speaker 5: in a tender hug. Or if you're lucky a three
Speaker 5: way chicken fight with your parents, and I don't even
Speaker 5: know what that is, sitting on top of each other's
Speaker 5: shoulders inside of the pool. But one of our listeners
Speaker 5: says she got something else at the end of her night,
Speaker 5: a two word whisper in her ear, and she's not
Speaker 5: sure really what it.
Speaker 7: Meant, if anything, So let's talk to her.
Speaker 1: I just cringe thinking whispering.
Speaker 7: It could be something really nice and romantic.
Speaker 6: Baby Angie, Welcome.
Speaker 7: To the show. I'm very curious about this whisperer.
Speaker 5: But before we get to that, first tell us the
Speaker 5: guy's name and how you met him.
Speaker 6: Whisper it to us.
Speaker 1: N no more whispering, No more whispering.
Speaker 7: Until the actual whisper happened. At that its disy heat.
Speaker 6: I know, the radios down or.
Speaker 7: Up there, I don't know.
Speaker 4: How.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of embarrassing. But we met on
Speaker 3: plenty of fish, which I know people don't even use anymore.
Speaker 6: But yeah, there's actual only fish on their question.
Speaker 1: What drove you to plenty of fish?
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just one of those that, like
Speaker 3: I said, up a profile I don't even know how
Speaker 3: long ago. And then I'll get in a relationship and
Speaker 3: I'll get off it. But like I can just go
Speaker 3: reactivate it.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, question does it even have an app or you
Speaker 1: have to use a browser?
Speaker 7: I don't even know. It only operates over facts now, okay.
Speaker 1: I thought it still was printed out on the back
Speaker 1: of the weeklies.
Speaker 7: That could be.
Speaker 6: I want to go.
Speaker 5: But the important thing is that you matched with this
Speaker 5: Nicholas guy.
Speaker 7: So tell us what did you do for your date?
Speaker 3: We went to dinner. We went to a tie place,
Speaker 3: which is one of my faves, so that was good.
Speaker 2: Did he remember that it was one of your favorites
Speaker 2: because that's always like really nice too.
Speaker 3: Well, I picked it, so that means that.
Speaker 7: He deserves credit a little bit for going along. So
Speaker 7: let's get it.
Speaker 3: And I'm a lady who knows what she likes and
Speaker 3: it's padi.
Speaker 7: Awesome. So what did you think when you first saw
Speaker 7: each other.
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like we hit it off. I mean,
Speaker 3: I will say dating kind of sucks, and I feel
Speaker 3: like a lot of times they get like flirty to
Speaker 3: the point that you're like, all right, dude, calm down,
Speaker 3: Like they'll ask you for sexy pictures before you've even met,
Speaker 3: and he didn't. He was more like soft spoken, more
Speaker 3: like a like a nerdy type.
Speaker 4: But it was.
Speaker 2: Cute and he was respectful of your bountries.
Speaker 5: So a nice guy. That's sweet and considerate. I'm surprised
Speaker 5: you didn't unmatch him.
Speaker 7: Immedia, Right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's really funny.
Speaker 2: Okay, was there any like, I don't know, moments of
Speaker 2: real flirtation that happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it felt like a good first day
Speaker 3: for the most part, but like I don't know, they'd
Speaker 3: be like I'd ask him a question and there'd be
Speaker 3: like a five seconds delay and then he would go
Speaker 3: and answer, and it wasn't weird at all, but.
Speaker 1: Like just staring at you for the five seconds.
Speaker 2: You know, though, some people are just bad at timing
Speaker 2: in a conversation. Have you ever talked to somebody who
Speaker 2: like takes really long pauses and you're like.
Speaker 1: Wait, due, do I go?
Speaker 6: Do we not go?
Speaker 1: Like, maybe his timing is just a little off.
Speaker 7: Maybe what are you talking about me?
Speaker 2: Sorry he waited to answer.
Speaker 7: So I like to think of it as I'm just
Speaker 7: a good listener.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was done talking. I mean, he was
Speaker 3: checking his phone a lot, so I wonder if maybe,
Speaker 3: like maybe I thought I was boring. I don't know,
Speaker 3: you know what, I think this is.
Speaker 8: Mind blowing to me. He does something that I could
Speaker 8: never do, and that is think before he speaks.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Google before he speaks.
Speaker 7: Google second fast.
Speaker 1: I know, maybe he's having AI listening thing.
Speaker 3: Was one point, like early on, after we sat down,
Speaker 3: like before we had ordered anything, he was like, oh man,
Speaker 3: it's really loud over here. And he was like, do
Speaker 3: you mind if we moved to like the back where
Speaker 3: it's quire And I was like, no, that's fine, and
Speaker 3: they moved us out.
Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think I honestly think we're over thinking it.
Speaker 5: I was just thinking what jose was thinking, like, if
Speaker 5: this is a really sweet, nice guy who's trying to
Speaker 5: come off like he really cares, he might take a
Speaker 5: second to try and come up with a really good
Speaker 5: answer to your questions and blurting stuff.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: The whole point is that the awkward pauses didn't bother you, right, No,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Say they bothered me.
Speaker 4: I just it was weird.
Speaker 2: It was noticeable because they probably didn't bother him. That's
Speaker 2: how he communicated to him.
Speaker 6: He was like that was a normal back and.
Speaker 7: Forth totally so overall pretty solid date.
Speaker 5: I'm really really interested though, in the end here when
Speaker 5: he whispers something into the two words wait.
Speaker 2: I want to know if he waited five seconds before
Speaker 2: he did the run.
Speaker 7: Us through what happened there?
Speaker 3: Okay, so end of the day, we were like outside
Speaker 3: of the restaurant about to go our separate ways. I
Speaker 3: give him a hook and win, I hug him. He
Speaker 3: whispers in my ear, good.
Speaker 4: Job, good job, good job.
Speaker 3: Like sums up good job.
Speaker 6: Well that's weird. B. Maybe he just doesn't know how
Speaker 6: to end a date.
Speaker 1: Like maybe it was any dialogue that came out. Maybe
Speaker 1: he was talking to you.
Speaker 5: Is it like the thing where you're you're wanting to
Speaker 5: be like hey, good date, or like in two words
Speaker 5: that you mix two things together and accidentally say something awkward.
Speaker 2: It could be the whole reason he's not calling you back,
Speaker 2: because he's like, God, what did I say that?
Speaker 3: I mean maybe, but like even after he said it,
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4: What did he say?
Speaker 3: He just he put his finger to his mouth like
Speaker 3: like it's our secret. But I have no idea what
Speaker 3: he was talking about.
Speaker 6: What is happening that romantic.
Speaker 1: But anytime a man puts his finger to his I
Speaker 1: don't like lips. It's creepy.
Speaker 3: Anybody nobody should.
Speaker 7: So have you texted him since the date ended?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So we were, you know, we were. We had like
Speaker 3: a cute little back and forth before the day, you know,
Speaker 3: we'd like send each other memes or whatever, so like
Speaker 3: I did that, but no, I have not gotten any response.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, something's up. We're gonna come back rate that's
Speaker 5: not okay. We're gonna call this plenty of Fisher, and
Speaker 5: we're gonna see what he has to say when we
Speaker 5: come back and get you your second date.
Speaker 7: Update right after this.
Speaker 6: Update.
Speaker 5: It's the two words that every little boy is dying
Speaker 5: to hear from his unapproving father.
Speaker 7: Good job, Yeah, proud of your son.
Speaker 1: We're proud of you, Jeff.
Speaker 5: That's not exactly what a woman wants to have whispered
Speaker 5: into her ear at the end of a first game.
Speaker 1: I thought we were gonna go into Jeff's therapy session.
Speaker 5: We do nearly enough time, okay, But it's what happened
Speaker 5: to our listener Angie after she hung out with a
Speaker 5: guy named Nicholas the other night. He gave her a
Speaker 5: and then softly said, good job.
Speaker 6: Girls are not happy about this. What she wasn't either, right.
Speaker 7: I don't think any woman would be happy about that.
Speaker 7: But we've got a.
Speaker 5: Lot of questions about the good job, about some of
Speaker 5: the other weird stuff that was happening during the day.
Speaker 5: Angie said she's willing to look past it if she
Speaker 5: can get another chance with him, because he seemed like
Speaker 5: a great guy.
Speaker 2: He said that he was like a little reserved, a
Speaker 2: little nerdy, Like those are some of the quirks that
Speaker 2: come with nerdy, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean that's the thing though, Like it's so hard
Speaker 3: to meet an actual, nice, respectful guy, and I just
Speaker 3: feel like he was And I'm assuming I mess up,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Do you think you messed up? And that's why you.
Speaker 3: Weally it's the person who calls in that messed up.
Speaker 3: And like I said, maybe thought I was boring.
Speaker 6: I don't know, probably was becoming self aware.
Speaker 1: No, you don't like that.
Speaker 7: Are you cool?
Speaker 5: If Nicholas has an unapproving father, is that okay?
Speaker 3: I can deal with that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, it's good.
Speaker 1: It'll be something Jeffrey and he can bond.
Speaker 7: Yes, also good about it. So let's call him. I'm
Speaker 7: a Dallas number right now. Let's see if he picks up.
Speaker 5: Hello, Hey, is this Nicholas Listen Nick, hey man, thanks
Speaker 5: for answering. You are on a radio show right now
Speaker 5: called Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Nicholas, How are you man?
Speaker 6: Good morning?
Speaker 4: Why am I on a radio show?
Speaker 1: Great question?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so, I don't know. Have you ever heard of
Speaker 5: something called a second date update before?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think so, I think so.
Speaker 1: Oh you have.
Speaker 2: Okay, congrats, you know who we are.
Speaker 7: Now you get to be a part of one.
Speaker 5: So the way that it works is one of our
Speaker 5: listeners has reached out to us hoping that.
Speaker 7: We could get a hold of you.
Speaker 4: A girl named Angie, Andie's trying to get a hold
Speaker 4: of me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, do you remember her?
Speaker 1: You guys wing to ty food the other night.
Speaker 5: She's hoping that she could maybe get another chance to
Speaker 5: hang out with you again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I don't. I don't think that's going to
Speaker 4: work out.
Speaker 2: Really Okay, it sounded like such a good date.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, before you even go there, Nicholas, I'm just
Speaker 5: gonna let you know, she said, that she really liked
Speaker 5: you and that you two shared a good vibe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I thought Angie was nice.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she didn't mention that.
Speaker 5: Actually, Nicholas, she mentioned a few odd things that happened
Speaker 5: on the date, and she wasn't sure if maybe those
Speaker 5: were early signs that you weren't interested.
Speaker 2: In her, which actually turns out could be true. At
Speaker 2: this point, at first we thought she.
Speaker 4: Was nuts, But well, well what what did she What
Speaker 4: did she say?
Speaker 5: Well, like we just mentioned, there's like a delay in
Speaker 5: your responses a little bit during the normal conversation.
Speaker 6: Almost like you're only thinking of what you're going to say.
Speaker 7: Delay, Okay, almost happened again.
Speaker 2: I think he hasn't noticed that that is part of
Speaker 2: your conversation.
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's okay.
Speaker 5: And also she said that you had to move to
Speaker 5: a quieter area. And I'm just going to let you
Speaker 5: know what the room thought when we heard everything. The
Speaker 5: room was wondering if maybe you had AI listening in
Speaker 5: on your conversation to help you respond to your date,
Speaker 5: because you were checking your phone a lot too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't know who the room is. Who's
Speaker 4: the who's the room?
Speaker 2: It was mostly Alexis people okay, because when we talked her,
Speaker 2: you know, we all give our ideas like, oh, maybe
Speaker 2: it could be this, maybe it could be that.
Speaker 7: These are just theories.
Speaker 5: So could you just be honest with us and tell
Speaker 5: us did you do that? Were you using AI to
Speaker 5: assist you?
Speaker 4: I was having some help on the date, but I
Speaker 4: wasn't using the AI some help on.
Speaker 1: The date, help from your phone.
Speaker 4: I was on the line with my ex, and she was.
Speaker 4: She was on the line with us the whole time.
Speaker 7: Your ex.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean sometimes I just need help. So
Speaker 4: she's kind of like a security blanket for me.
Speaker 2: She wait, you date, did you have like earbuds in
Speaker 2: and you were listening to your ex at the same
Speaker 2: time you were listening to her?
Speaker 4: No? No, she was just on mute, like she couldn't
Speaker 4: say anything. She wasn't coaching me. I just wanted her
Speaker 4: to hear everything.
Speaker 8: So she's kind of taking notes and then later you
Speaker 8: will call her and she will go over the notes.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: Volunteers to listen to hours of your dates?
Speaker 7: What what a kind woman?
Speaker 4: Well, it's part of our post breakup growth agreement.
Speaker 7: Wait, post break up growth agreement wore.
Speaker 6: In that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we mutually agreed upon and I listened to her
Speaker 4: dates too on occasion. It's just we help each other
Speaker 4: get through our past breakup and move into a new one.
Speaker 4: So it's healthy and very healthy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's a very conscious uncoupling like your
Speaker 5: new dates.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, well that is a good point, because he
Speaker 6: said sabotage.
Speaker 4: You know she was not a fan of Angie.
Speaker 5: Okay, well, but how did you feel about her?
Speaker 4: I was enjoying myself, but she mentioned that she seemed
Speaker 4: like a try hard, And then when I was thinking
Speaker 4: about it, I think that she might be kind of
Speaker 4: a try hard.
Speaker 2: Whoa wait, wait, don't you want people to try hard
Speaker 2: on a first day?
Speaker 3: Excuse me? How was I a try hard?
Speaker 1: That's coming in hard?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh my god, Nicholas, you might find this funny,
Speaker 5: but your ex girlfriend and Angie have a lot in
Speaker 5: common because she's actually been on the phone listening in
Speaker 5: on this conversation.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's not that's not fair. I didn't I didn't
Speaker 4: know that. I didn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Angie didn't know that X was listening to
Speaker 1: her either.
Speaker 7: Yeas to be judging, but Angie.
Speaker 4: But she was hi, Angie there you go. Hi.
Speaker 3: I mean you're saying this is a healthy thing, but
Speaker 3: you also said your ex is your security blankets. So
Speaker 3: it doesn't feel like you're ready to be dating other people.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, Well, in most relationships, people don't have the
Speaker 4: right closure and then they hold on to the past,
Speaker 4: and so this is a way to move on to
Speaker 4: my future. Yeah, you're not moving on.
Speaker 3: You're literally still relying on your ex to make your
Speaker 3: decisions down there, we're dating.
Speaker 4: Well, we spent a lot of time together, so she
Speaker 4: knows me really well, and she sees things from the
Speaker 4: opposites x that I might not see.
Speaker 3: Then maybe you guys should be together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's not. It's not like that. We're not
Speaker 4: romantically involved whatsoever. It's just we have a year left
Speaker 4: in our post break up growth agreement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a long time.
Speaker 6: You're kind of each other's life.
Speaker 2: Coaches, really, can't you just recap the date with your
Speaker 2: ex instead of having her the whole time?
Speaker 4: Well, see, there's trigger words and things that she'll say, like, well,
Speaker 4: that's the red flag that I don't typically see.
Speaker 7: This does make sense now why he whispered good job
Speaker 7: at the very.
Speaker 5: End of the date.
Speaker 7: He wasn't saying it to Angie. He was saying it
Speaker 7: to his ex girlfriend who was listening.
Speaker 3: That doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4: No, I was talking to Angie. I did whisper good
Speaker 4: job because I thought that we were going to get
Speaker 4: to go on another date because I enjoyed myself and
Speaker 4: I didn't want my ex to hear her.
Speaker 3: Nicholas, so you're not to go out with me again?
Speaker 3: And you listen hearing me.
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I actually think Nicholas is over his ex. I think
Speaker 2: your ex Nicholas is not. And I don't think you're
Speaker 2: seeing that correctly.
Speaker 4: I mean that's the possibility, and I and I kind
Speaker 4: of agree with that, but we still have our agreement
Speaker 4: and I have said.
Speaker 1: That, rip it up.
Speaker 4: Okay, what are we talking about?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And if all she could come up with is she's
Speaker 2: a try hard as the biggest red flag.
Speaker 8: Oh man, that's a weak red flag.
Speaker 3: And I didn't try that hard. I didn't even shave
Speaker 3: my legs for that day.
Speaker 7: There must be some clause in your contract with her.
Speaker 5: They'll let you get out of it when you find
Speaker 5: an amazing new girl like Angie here.
Speaker 3: Because I have a question, what if I had put
Speaker 3: out on the first date, which you have been listening in.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that.
Speaker 4: Our date, whether it's supposed to go over an hour
Speaker 4: and a half, I know, we were already pushing it
Speaker 4: at an hour forty times agreement.
Speaker 5: Where he was already breaking the rules a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so the band aid's starting to come off.
Speaker 6: Or he's like, hold on, let me ask my ex, Hey,
Speaker 6: can I sleep with this?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Angie, just real quick, first, are you still interested in
Speaker 5: meeting up with Nicholas again?
Speaker 7: After what you know?
Speaker 6: There's no way.
Speaker 7: Oh I thought you were okay, No.
Speaker 2: Jeff that would have been wild if she said, yeah,
Speaker 2: let he breaks the thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5: Angie doesn't want to extend the offer anymore. So Nicholas,
Speaker 5: we're not obviously going to give you another date with
Speaker 5: Angie here.
Speaker 8: But funny if his girlfriend has been on the line
Speaker 8: this whole time too, Oh yeah, wait is she?
Speaker 6: Is she on the third line?
Speaker 3: What's her name?
Speaker 2: Let's say hi, froaking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 5: So his ex was on the phone on mute, listening
Speaker 5: to the entire date for an hour and forty minutes,
Speaker 5: taking notes, and she said no, I mean that's shocking.
Speaker 1: I really thought that that was going to walk out.
Speaker 6: I tried to call my ex over and over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she's gonna answer.
Speaker 5: I don't get it, jeff I guess the fascinating thing
Speaker 5: to me is if she would have said yes. Could
Speaker 5: you imagine that conversation where Nicholas is really excited and
Speaker 5: he calls you, like, hey, great news, we get to.
Speaker 7: Go out again.
Speaker 5: My ex gave you the thumbs up, first one in
Speaker 5: six months, congrabs, she prooves.
Speaker 2: It really did sound like Nicholas was over his ex
Speaker 2: and his ex isn't overham Yeah, like.
Speaker 6: No girls or something.
Speaker 7: Yeah, whatever it is, it is a messy situation.
Speaker 6: Did she give him away at the wedding?
Speaker 1: She's still hoping that she is the one?
Speaker 7: Yeahless no fine out.
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