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Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls. My

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Speaker 3: name is ty Hildebrand, joining me as Alwa's over there

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Speaker 1: The one and only danri Benstein, Sir, how you doing good?

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Speaker 1: I lace up my literal and metaphorical boots every day now,

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Speaker 1: tie as I head into the college football minds and

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Speaker 1: Hath because to me, it's it's very binary tie. You're

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Speaker 1: right in Star Wars, that is correct, Hath. So we

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Speaker 1: I've been watching a lot of college football. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I've been watching a lot of football. I got to

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Speaker 3: Games were a lot better than I expected. Yeah, even

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Speaker 3: like Northwestern Auburn games that I looked at and said, man,

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Speaker 3: second thought, after it all played out, ended up being

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Speaker 1: So that's what we're going to do today. Welcome back

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Speaker 3: We're going to recap a bunch of the Bowl games,

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Speaker 3: the playoffs obviously being the two of the biggest, but

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Speaker 3: Year's Day, this is our first time actually recording in

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Speaker 3: the new calendar year, Dan.

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Speaker 1: So I hope you're ready for this. I am, and

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Speaker 1: I've got my throat coat ta that I'm flashing to

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Speaker 1: the camera. Yeah, we have a lot of games, and

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Speaker 3: We are two takesmen, to say the very least. If

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Speaker 3: so out on our patreonoverbowlers dot com. We've also got

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Speaker 3: any number of different social accounts. Now as always were

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Speaker 1: Watch along stuff has been very fun. I don't know

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Speaker 1: this show. So we're gonna be doing this for the

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Speaker 1: National Championship, right We're going to yeah, be watching along

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Speaker 1: And I had a great time, not because of the

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Speaker 3: Alabama came into this a nineteen and a half point favorite,

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Speaker 1: Because they kept it simple. They kept it very, very simple.

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Speaker 3: that being said, I just it came down to matchups

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Speaker 1: Did you see the expected scoring margin from Bill connolly

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Speaker 1: it can make plays on defense, that has those playmakers

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Speaker 3: Gotten the stop right, they had gotten a stop because

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Speaker 3: Book was supposed to be the X factor, the way

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Speaker 3: Ohio State had the right game plan, the right mix

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Speaker 3: will be shaded, regardless of result here by the fact

434
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Speaker 3: that Derek King tore an ACL.

435
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Speaker 1: That was that was the story here.

436
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Speaker 3: And Spencer Sanders had a good game, and the Oklahoma

437
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 3: State passing game looked pretty good. But unfortunately, I think

438
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 3: the lasting takeaway from this game will be the fact

439
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Speaker 3: that Derek King, who just announced he's back to it

440
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 3: to Miami next year, Yeah, goes out there and tears

441
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 3: an ACL in the first half.

442
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

443
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: It was more of even though the Derek King thing happened,

444
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: it was more of what we've come to expect from Miami,

445
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: good and bad. You know, the playmakers developed in the

446
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: pass catching group, Brevin Jordan and Mike Harley, guys like that.

447
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: Nikosey Perry came in and made plays and helped to

448
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: bring them back. They ran the ball actually well, which

449
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 1: they didn't always do this year, and still committed a

450
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Speaker 1: bunch of penalties. So I think that was it was

451
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: fairly even penalty wise, But you know, the turnovers, the

452
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 1: fumbles are gonna are gonna get you, and I did

453
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Speaker 1: see just in terms of next year, I think both

454
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Speaker 1: Tylan Wallace and Dylan Stoner confirmed that they're entering the

455
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Speaker 1: NFL Draft. So yeah, it'll be certainly a new look

456
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Speaker 1: with Cheuba Hubbard gone and obviously a new lo Oklahoma

457
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: state group of skill position guys on offense. But a

458
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Speaker 1: very nice way to end the season. A very strange season,

459
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Speaker 1: I would say for the Cowboys, Go Pokes. Spencer Sanders

460
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: had a nice game, got into the end zone a bunch,

461
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Speaker 1: so you know, wait to hold on. Star jumped out

462
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 1: of the gate in an impressive fashion and got the W.

463
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Speaker 1: Great the other Big twelve storyline here.

464
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Texas fired Tom Herman dan they did. Yeah, how

465
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Speaker 3: many weeks ago was it that he supposedly had the

466
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Speaker 3: vote of confidence and that they were going to stick

467
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Speaker 3: with him.

468
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Speaker 1: It's like three weeks ago? Yeah, I mean that seemed

469
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Speaker 1: to be a recruiting and signing deploy more than anything else,

470
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Speaker 1: like let's secure the signatures if you're gonna be cynical

471
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Speaker 1: about things like I tend to be. Yeah, it was

472
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Speaker 1: I read I think it was Max Olsen in the

473
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Speaker 1: Athletic talking about how it was just untenable with Texas

474
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Speaker 1: going after urban Meyer the way that they did and

475
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Speaker 1: given urban Meyer and Tom Herman's history, that it was

476
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Speaker 1: just a matter of time and finding the right guy,

477
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Speaker 1: and once I suppose Texas did and vetting and agreeing

478
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 1: to hire Steve Sarkisian, it was just going to happen

479
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: that way. And I don't know what you do with

480
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Speaker 1: the recruits who signed with Tom Herman and that program,

481
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Speaker 1: and it was a down recruiting class in terms of

482
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Speaker 1: who they signed from Texas. I saw one of the

483
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: top twenty players in the state signed with UT, which

484
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: is never great, never a great sign, never a great

485
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Speaker 1: vote of confidence in the direction of the program. So

486
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: it felt inevitable. The statement from Chris del Conti, the

487
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Speaker 1: athletic director who did not hire them, came over from TCU,

488
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Speaker 1: helped spearhead TCU's voyage to the Big East. If you remember,

489
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Speaker 1: for about a week and a half, Tom Herman's not

490
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Speaker 1: his guy. So it's a big swing and comes on

491
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Speaker 1: the heels of a really impressive performance by really the

492
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Speaker 1: youth of Texas in their Alimo Bowl win over Colorado,

493
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Speaker 1: but an eventful, eventful few days on the four it's

494
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Speaker 1: a fifteen million dollar buyout by the way for thossas assistance.

495
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Speaker 1: Another nine.

496
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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, it gets to twenty four million in

497
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 3: total to get rid of the whole staff. Some big

498
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 3: names being linked to coordinator positions hiv Nder Sark, Will

499
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: mush Champ or a Texas assistant coach rumored obviously to

500
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Speaker 3: maybe come and help with defense, Kevin Steele. Marcus Freeman's

501
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 3: a hot commodity given what he's done at Cincinnati. A

502
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Speaker 3: bunch of names being bandied about here. We'll see which

503
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 3: direction Sark goes. I was just looking here on my soundboard.

504
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 3: I have to update my Sarktober sound. We had a

505
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Speaker 3: Sark Tober sound from way back, did we really? It's

506
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Speaker 3: still in the wrong audio format.

507
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Speaker 1: So maybe in time. How do we have both? We

508
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Speaker 1: have a Sarktober and a broc Tober. I don't know

509
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Speaker 1: what brock Tober's future looks like. I assume I'll be back,

510
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Speaker 1: but I don't know. I don't know who I mean,

511
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Speaker 1: guess I guess it's a week to week thing. Who

512
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Speaker 1: gets priority. Well, we'll have to see.

513
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Speaker 3: I mean, we can play the hits, whatever work, whatever

514
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 3: works best. I have to see if I can update

515
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Speaker 3: that at the same time that we're recording here.

516
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Speaker 1: That could be all right, fair enough, that could be difficult,

517
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: but I have no recollection regardless.

518
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 3: Listen, big win for Texas, as you said, a bit

519
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 3: of a youth movement with Casey Thompson and Jon.

520
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: Robinson.

521
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Speaker 3: Robinson, Yeah, just a good showing there to put fifty

522
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Speaker 3: five on the board.

523
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Speaker 1: Texas was definitely.

524
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 3: More of a finished product. I think we would agree.

525
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: Colorado a good story. But a win for Texas in

526
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Speaker 3: the Alma Bowl and then moving on to the Cotton Bowl.

527
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually I really liked Casey Thompson by the way,

528
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: he look good. I think he's promising four touchdowns off

529
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: the bench. He's been there for a while.

530
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 3: In the Cotton Bowl, fifty five to twenty Oklahoma over Florida.

531
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Speaker 3: Rough start to the season for Oklahoma going own two

532
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Speaker 3: in conference. They pull it together obviously as the year

533
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 3: goes on. They win their last eight games, including this one,

534
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 3: which was a straight up route if we're being fair.

535
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: Immediately we streamed me and Richard Johnson and I streamed

536
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: the first half of this game. Noted Florida Gator and

537
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: there was an experience for him. The Gators did pull

538
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: within four at one point with about six minutes left

539
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: in the first half, but Oklahoma answered very quickly with

540
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Speaker 1: two touchdowns and had an eighteen point lead at the break.

541
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Speaker 1: It's worth noting.

542
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 3: That Kyle Trask was without his top four pass catchers,

543
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: and also that Kyle Trast didn't play after the opening

544
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: drive of the second half when they turned it over

545
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 3: to Emery Jones.

546
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Speaker 1: But he didn't have a great game.

547
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: He threw three picks, presumably his last as a college quarterback.

548
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to win the Heisman, but

549
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: he's obviously part of that ceremony given the season that

550
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Speaker 3: he had.

551
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Speaker 1: I was surprised by this.

552
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Speaker 3: I guess it's tempered a bit by the fact that

553
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 3: Florida was down so many guys, but I still expected

554
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 3: a little bit more fight than this.

555
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, the two of the three interceptions, I think they

556
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: were all in the first quarter, right we're on him.

557
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: I think the third was a tipped ball, lucky for Florida.

558
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: So Dan Mullen after the game declared that actually, actually

559
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: Florida had played their final game of the twenty twenty

560
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: season eleven. So I guess it doesn't count. Sorry, Oklahoma,

561
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't count because Dan Mullen said so. Spencer Ratler

562
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: looked fantastic. Oklahoma looked really really good, a strong way

563
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: to finish the year. And whether or not Florida was

564
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: anywhere near capacity on their too deep both sides of

565
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: the ball. What what do good teams do?

566
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: Ty?

567
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: Do they take advantage? Do they make statements when when

568
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: given opportunities? I feel like they do they do so.

569
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Speaker 1: I don't know if this means Oklahoma is winning a

570
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: playoff game next year. I don't know if this means

571
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: Oklahoma's shutting down everybody on defense in the Big Twelve

572
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: next year. But I know things are pretty together in

573
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: Norman and the future looks pretty bright with Spencer Rattler

574
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: so very very impressive from Oklahoma. And too bad Florida.

575
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to give back all the money the

576
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: payout from this game because didn't happen.

577
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Speaker 3: Okay, moving on, Let's talk about another batch of games here. Yeah,

578
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 3: we had Wisconsin over Wake forty two to twenty eight

579
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: in the Duke's Mayo Bowl.

580
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: We had ball State an upset surprise Victor Oh. They

581
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: jumped on the Spartans who.

582
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Speaker 3: Twenty one points thirty four to thirteen over San Jose

583
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Speaker 3: State in the Arizona Bowl.

584
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Speaker 1: And can I make a recommendation, by the way, please,

585
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: this is just me as a college football consultant. Please

586
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Speaker 1: don't throw a pick six and follow it up with

587
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: three three and outs. Yeah, not the best way to

588
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,479
Speaker 1: go about football business. So still a really nice year

589
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: for San Jose State, but kudos to ball State made place.

590
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 3: And then there was the Mississippi State thing. Dan, Mississippi

591
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: State thing. Yeah, I know, groans all around the Armed

592
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 3: Forces Bowl.

593
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Speaker 1: This game we talked about Wisconsin Wake by the way,

594
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Speaker 1: that was the same day as the Cotton Bowl.

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Speaker 2: It was.

596
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Speaker 3: But let me get this out of the way first. Okay,

597
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Speaker 3: please do the Mississippi State game. If you didn't see

598
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: the ending is what shaded the whole thing. On one side,

599
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: he had Mike Leach doing like crowdsert whatever the hell

600
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: he was doing without a mask on one side, and

601
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: on the entirely opposite side of the field, two teams

602
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: going to war with each other. This is a full

603
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 3: blown call. The cops kind of fight like they were

604
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 3: really going at it. Mississippi State wins twenty eight, twenty six.

605
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 3: Not a good look to end this bowl game. Just

606
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty eight passing yards for Mississippi State,

607
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: which was a bit of a real twist here, but

608
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: they do get the w and the Armedforces ball.

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00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, the pick six won them the game. The pig.

610
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: They had a really nice defensive performance against Golden Hurricane.

611
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Speaker 1: I yeah, it was an ugly, ugly way to end

612
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: the game. Another ugly end of a season. Four Mississippi State,

613
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Speaker 1: different coach, same sort of taste left in your mouth

614
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Speaker 1: with the way that the season ended. But luckily statesmen

615
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: and diplomat Mike Leach had incredibly insightful and wise things

616
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: to say after the game. And I'm just kidding. He

617
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: was the infant he's always been. He was definitely the

618
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: infant he's always been. Yeah, so good luck with him,

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Speaker 1: Mississippi State.

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00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: Don't think it's gonna end. Well, let's go over to

621
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Speaker 3: the Duke's Mail Bowl for a second. Yeah, Wisconsin had

622
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: two hundred and sixty six yards and forty two points.

623
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Speaker 1: You may ask, well, how'd that happen? Well, it happens

624
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: when you get a.

625
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: Couple plays, you get some nice kick returns, you get

626
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: a block kick, and also when your opponent throws interceptions

627
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: on four consecutive drives late.

628
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: In the game. Four of them, four of them. Yeah,

629
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: that will get you. As I tweeted out, that'll get you.

630
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 3: This was as close to quarterback yips as I've seen

631
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Speaker 3: in a long time.

632
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Sam Harmon doesn't throw picks. He doesn't throw

633
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: the picks super accurate. And he was really good in

634
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: this game. He was really good for THEE this game.

635
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: He was good.

636
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: If you watched that game. If you watch that game,

637
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 3: he looked so good throwing the football. He's got good receivers,

638
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 3: he's got.

639
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Speaker 1: Roberson.

640
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got really good talent around him. He looked good.

641
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: But something happened. There was like some short circuit, some

642
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: yipsy in situation m hm at the end of the

643
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: third and into the fourth quarter where he just like

644
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 3: freaking lost it and was throwing it like crazy to Wisconsin.

645
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's it's a shame. It's a shame the

646
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: way that the rhythms of the game went in the

647
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: second half. Though, all do credit. Wisconsin's defense was very

648
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: good and jumped into those lanes, made plays. Wisconsin offenses

649
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: ways away still to me, I mean not being able

650
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: to run the ball. I know they were down at

651
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: least a couple starting offensive linemen it's it's like impossible

652
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: to keep track at this point unless you just dedicate

653
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: a lot of time. I mean, we're going to win

654
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 1: the off season to figuring out what the hell happened

655
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: this year. But yeah, the Wisconsin offense was I mean,

656
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: they scored points, they had shorter fields, they had opportunities,

657
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: but I still man, the playmakers or lack thereof is

658
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: very strange. I say this, they score forty and win

659
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: the game by fourteen, but it's a team that's been

660
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: led by their defense all season long.

661
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 3: All right, three other games here, we had the Rest

662
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 3: in Peace Mayo Bowl Trophy Rest in Peace Mayo Bowl Trophy,

663
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 3: which shattered, Yeah, thank you, indeed. Liberty Bowl West Virginia

664
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 3: twenty four Army twenty one yo. Army led led with

665
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 3: five minutes left in this one, Dan West Virginia gets

666
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: a touchdown end up winning this one.

667
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: Late had the.

668
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 3: Same score in the Peach Bowl Georgia twenty four Cincinnati

669
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: twenty one. Bit of a heartbreaker for Cincinnati, which we

670
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: can discuss here.

671
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: And then the Citrus Bowl. We had Northwestern score in

672
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: thirty five points, yes, okay, thirty five to nineteen over

673
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: Auburn as they win in Orlando. Which of these three

674
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: games jumped out the most of you. I guess Cincinnati Georgia,

675
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 1: just in terms of Cincinnati going undefeated and Georgia making

676
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback change and looking a lot more impressive on offense. Quickly, though,

677
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 1: West Virginia did a good job about lasting Army. Army

678
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: has been led by their defense, much like the Ears.

679
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: So you know West Virginia being able to overcome the

680
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 1: turnovers and not being able to move the ball all

681
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: that off and just I would say a gutty win

682
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: did a good job on defense against Army. So agree.

683
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: I came away impressed by that because again, Army's defense

684
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: has been very, very strong this year. What was the

685
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: third game you mentioned? Northwestern thirty five, Auburn nineteen. Yeah,

686
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 1: Auburn just not being able to run the ball at

687
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: all down offensive lineman. No Tank Bigsby, correct, no Tank

688
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: bigs Be. This was the game that I say at

689
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: the top, it was better than I expected. The score

690
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: doesn't really show it. Okay, Auburn was on its heels early,

691
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: they played better, they came back. This is a fourteen

692
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: to thirteen game. Yeah, until late in the third quarter,

693
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: but then Peyton Ramsey runs in a long one for

694
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: a score.

695
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: I think it was like a thirty yarder. Northwestern got

696
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: a big stop on fourth and one. Then they add

697
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: another touchdown, then they recover a fumble, so it it

698
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 3: came off the swivel very quickly for Auburn.

699
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: This is a good game.

700
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 3: Both quarterbacks I thought, looked really good. Peyton Ramsey had

701
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 3: what like close to three hundred yards, It had three touchdowns.

702
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: Bo Nickson pretty good. This is this is a much

703
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 3: much better game than I expected. So I was glad

704
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 3: to see it because I think I groaned when we

705
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: did the preview.

706
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in this game.

707
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: I'm glad I had the opportunity to watch because it

708
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 3: actually ended up being a lot more fun than I expected.

709
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, both quarterbacks were pretty sharp, all things considered with

710
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: the guys that they were missing or guys that are

711
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: usually that whatever. Yeah, just a really strong year for

712
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: Northwestern considering where they were in twenty nineteen. The final

713
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: game of Mike Hankwitz, who did a phenomenal job there

714
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: for for a long long time as their defensive coordinator

715
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: and New Mexico's most dangerous meth dealer. I love the

716
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: luck I love the luck and Auburn moving forward now

717
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: with Brian Harson. So all things considered, it seems pretty

718
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: impossible to compete when you're sort of in limbo between

719
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: coaches and the Tigers did it for a good chunk

720
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: of this game until as you mentioned, the wheels just

721
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: sort of came off good for for Northwestern finishing the

722
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: year as a top fifteen team, and you know it's

723
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: it's a pretty I mean, Iowa fits it, but otherwise

724
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: a pretty unstable Big ten West and Northwestern. Oh, that

725
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: boat with the fewest leaky.

726
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 3: Patches, I think that's right. Did not catch any references

727
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: to Pat Fitzgerald as an NFL candidate, which is one

728
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: of our winter wonders.

729
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: Tough beat we did have.

730
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 3: We did have the picture of Sam Ellinger as a

731
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 3: kid wearing Texas gear, though that one's mandatory.

732
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 1: How many, I think there's law.

733
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 3: How many PlayStation references were there in the Fiesta.

734
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: Bowl A ton so I in the first half I

735
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: had the sound on, but I wasn't paying particularly close

736
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: attention because I was doing the stream. Second half, not

737
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: as many as I would have expected. I think we

738
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: might have hit the under there. Yeah, I mean it

739
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: doesn't count if they just say PlayStation Fiesta Bowl. Now,

740
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: it's got to be PlayStation five. That was the PlayStation five. References,

741
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: many more references to Mike Golick's final broadcast on ESPN

742
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: in this one. All right, well, we'll talk about that

743
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: in the second.

744
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 3: But I did want to close the loop on the

745
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 3: Peach Bowl heartbreakway for Cincinnati. Here Georgia drills a fifty

746
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 3: three yarder with just three seconds left. They took the

747
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: lead on that. They add two more points on a

748
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: safety on the final play of the game to make

749
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: it twenty four to twenty one. Georgia was down twenty

750
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: one to ten. Fourth quarter, the defense really stepped up

751
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: some curious clock management, if I'm being honest, from rough

752
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 3: end of this game, little bit of Lake game games,

753
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 3: a little bit of Lake game James.

754
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: Franklin going on right on the Cincinnati side.

755
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 3: I thought Cincinnati quitted itself very well in this football game.

756
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 3: I thought they were going to win. They were good

757
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 3: enough to win. Georgia averaged one point nine yards per

758
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 3: rush on twenty four carries.

759
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: JT.

760
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 3: Daniels had a pretty good game, but had moments where

761
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 3: it was like, Okay, what's going on here. What were

762
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: your thoughts on this game, because I came away feeling

763
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 3: like I knew Georgia was more talented athletically speaking, but

764
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: that Cincinnati by and large played the better game, should

765
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: have won, but found a way to blow it at

766
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 3: the end.

767
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: Yes, and no, I mean Cincinnati at one point talked

768
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: about this a little bit, I think on the stream.

769
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: But they had the long run from Drome Ford the

770
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: Alabama transfer in the second half, it was like a

771
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: seventy nine yard run and otherwise basically did nothing on

772
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: offense in the second half. They took advantage of opportunities

773
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: in the first half, including JT. Daniels throwing a pretty

774
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: bad pick in the end zone. So Georgia certainly left

775
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: points on the board, but it was also Cincinnati making

776
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: plays they weren't doing much in the past game. You know,

777
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 1: desmon Ritter unable to really go downfield too much against

778
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: a still very very good Georgia defense with you know,

779
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: working in different personnelity, linebackers out, whatever. But they're they're

780
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: deep enough that you can't use that as much of

781
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: an excuse because the youth at Georgia are still incredible,

782
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: very very so. Yeah, Cincinnati took advantage of opportunities, which

783
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: is what very very good teams do. I was disappointed, though,

784
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, just because there's much more on the

785
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: line for Cincinnati here right to just to make that

786
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: to get that statement win against a Power five power

787
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: A team recruiting as strongly as it does, you know,

788
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: and even though Georgia had a very off year, I

789
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: would say, considering where the quarterback position landed in a

790
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: strange year for everybody, I just did the lack of

791
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: aggression from Luke Fickle and the offensive staff for Cincinnati,

792
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: and the lack of aggression from Kirby Smart and Todd

793
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: munkin just having the ball with the opportunity to punctuate

794
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: a win at midfield on fourth and short ish and

795
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 1: just playing punts and counting on your defense. It works

796
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: until it doesn't. And it was just going to be

797
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: a matter of who made that mistake, and ultimately it

798
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: was Cincinnati. I just, you know, with the ball in

799
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: your hands to be able to win this game, to

800
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: punt it back, I don't like it. I just that's

801
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: where I stand as a football fan. That is my

802
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: preference for offensive aggression, and it's always going to be

803
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 1: a lose lose for a team like Georgia beat Cincinnati,

804
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: and you beat an American team, lose to Cincinnati, you

805
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: lost to an American team, So what So you know

806
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: it's it's the boot of what's pod Lesnie? Who was

807
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: the one that kicked the game winning field goal? Yep,

808
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: the boot of pod Lesnie. The impressive play from young

809
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: Georgia defenders taking advantage of opportunities for Cincinnati on offense,

810
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: especially on the ground. And I suppose, I mean, because

811
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't that impressed with Georgia on the ground. I

812
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: know they were without James Cook, but even still just

813
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: didn't look like themselves and didn't really hit their ceiling.

814
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: But I do credit Cincinnati's defense there because their defense

815
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: was all over the friggin place, really really strong defense

816
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: to watch. Yeah, so agree, I thought Cincinnati left it.

817
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: I thought Cincinnati, even with their pretty poor second half offensively,

818
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: I think you just got to you gotta put your

819
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: blinders on and you just got to go. And you know,

820
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: when you show that hesitation, that's when you tend to

821
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: lose against teams as talented as Georgia is. But they

822
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: had a chance, you know, they did. They had a

823
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: twenty one ten.

824
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: Should have put that game on ice, but couldn't do it.

825
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: All right, credit to Georgia for doing it, had to do. Yeah,

826
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 3: and George Pickens is just really good, really good, a joy.

827
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: He's a joy, and you know what we haven't had.

828
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 1: He's a personality. He's ridiculous. He makes plays that basically

829
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: only like four and a half other receivers in the

830
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: country can make. I just he's a good TV show.

831
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 3: To me, he's a He's a good TV show, and

832
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 3: we just haven't got a chance to see enough of

833
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:01,959
Speaker 3: him this year.

834
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. And JT. Daniels was the full offseason. I mean,

835
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: he goes for almost four hundred yards in this game.

836
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: We're probably under selling what JT. Daniels is able to

837
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: do against this really good Cincinnati defense. But yeah, George

838
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: Pagan's ooh fun.

839
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 3: Last four games we had the Gator Bowl Kentucky twenty three,

840
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 3: NC State twenty one. I think that line was two

841
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 3: and a half in favor of Kentucky, so right on

842
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: the number there all missed twenty six, Indiana twenty in

843
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 3: the Outback Bowl, Iowa State thirty four, Oregon seventeen in

844
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: the PlayStation Fiesta Bowl and Texas A and M closing

845
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 3: out against North Carolina forty one to twenty seven in

846
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 3: the game last evening.

847
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: We're recording this on Sunday the third.

848
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 3: Let me start with the Gator Bowl. This is the

849
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 3: game that I opted out of. I went back on

850
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 3: the rewatch and look better game than I thought. Again,

851
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: better game than I thought. Kentucky's going to run the ball.

852
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 3: Their running team, that's what they do. They ran the

853
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 3: crap out of the ball. They didn't even have one

854
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: hundred yards passing, but they rushed it forty eight times

855
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: for two hundred and eighty one yards and two touchdowns,

856
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 3: led by a Seamrose and Christopher Rodriguez. Yeah, heard that

857
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 3: a thousand times. But again, that's what Kentucky does. They

858
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 3: did a good job here and they had the lead

859
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 3: for the entire game. Had the lead for the entire game.

860
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: Even though there were points in this game where NC

861
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: State pulled a little tighter, they had the lead for

862
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 3: the entire time. I never really felt like the game

863
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: was that much in doubt. Bailly Hawk beIN good to

864
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 3: an extent, had three picks which really killed him here.

865
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to play devorjak here. But you

866
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: know NC State coming out of the gate against I mean,

867
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: you're right, it's you know, stop me if you've heard

868
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: this one. Kentucky won with running the ball in defense,

869
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: but out of the gate it was interception, punt, punt,

870
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,959
Speaker 1: missed field goal, end of half, miss field goal before

871
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: finding the end zone into the third quarter. So you're right,

872
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was still an impressive year

873
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: from NC State, and especially with Kentucky parting ways with

874
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: Eddie Grand their offensive coordinator, to come out and just

875
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: trounce trowns NC State by scoring twenty three points. Impressive

876
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: for Kentucky. Good way to finish the year. Excited to

877
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: see what I think it's Liam Cohen, the younger coordinator

878
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: they hired away from the LA Rams taking over. Excited

879
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: to see if we get some new wizardry from the

880
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: word a Kentucky offense that's been lacking it.

881
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 3: In the Outback Bowl Ole Miss twenty six twenty we

882
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 3: found out that Lian Kiffin got an extension. They like

883
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 3: the innovative stuff that he's done. Dan who knew hard.

884
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: I mean the heights of Ole Miss this year were

885
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: very entertaining, very entertaining that Corral was fun to watch

886
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: in this game.

887
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 3: John Reeve Plumbley slot receiver. Yeah, they play five five

888
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: for seventy three for John Reese Plumbley.

889
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: Jack Tuttle was okay for Indiana, I know, okay, Oh

890
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: he's okay. Not their starter, not their starter. Yeah.

891
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 3: He did get the ball to wop Filure eighteen times

892
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: for eighty one yards, which is impressive as it goes

893
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 3: with receiving lines. Eighteen carries, eighteen catches. Excuse me, is

894
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 3: is a number?

895
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: Oh well, hold on, hold on, hold on, doesn't this

896
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: fall under my fil Drikovic seven cars worth a combined

897
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: eight thousand dollars. Though, eighteen catches for eighty one yards,

898
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: it's impressive that his hands caught the ball that many times.

899
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: His long was fourteen yards, right, So yes and no,

900
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: yes and no. Yeah, I mean just so we not

901
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: able to do itches all that often. Yeah, it seemed

902
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: Indiana's best plays downfield largely were as a result of PI.

903
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: It was a lot of launching and hoping for the

904
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: best and the Jane Coast and LPI offense. But yeah,

905
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: it was you know, your guys. Stevie Scott was pretty

906
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: good boy, for Indiana, but yeah, it was more Matt

907
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: corral Snoop Connor had a really nice touchdown run. Because

908
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: this was also I mean we mentioned in the preview

909
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: an Old Miss team that was down a bunch of

910
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: and yes, I know Indiana was down Michael Pennix, that

911
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: is the most important dude on their offense. But for

912
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: Ole Miss without Elijah Moore, without Kenny Eboa, without what's

913
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: his name, the running back whose name I'm now fiercely

914
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: forgetting because I love watching him. Jerry and Eely excuse me,

915
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean he plays for Mississippi States. That's

916
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: just insulting at this point. But Jerry and Ely I

917
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: jumped the gun. It's okay, It's close, but very insulting.

918
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: Now obviously to Ole Miss fans everywhere, I hope it

919
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: means good things. I mean that means people are believing

920
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: on that roster and Lane Kiffin without those top playmakers

921
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: and the next guy up, thing worked really well. It

922
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: was what Ontario Drummond, Yeah, the guy who was making

923
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: plays ahead of John Reese plumbley there. So no, I

924
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: really enjoyed watching this and in the end it didn't

925
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: get into the end zone until what third fourth quarter

926
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: like it was actually the ole Miss defense, which has

927
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: been horrendous, making plays, make it plays. Twenty six to

928
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: twenty your final score.

929
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 3: Let's talk about Oregon, Dan, let's do it. Only one

930
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 3: member of this broadcasting duo roots for a team that

931
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: was recently able to.

932
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: Knock off Iowa State, and it's not you. I'm telling you, Ty,

933
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: you got something going here.

934
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: I got something going This is not a good showing

935
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 3: by Oregon. No four turnovers, zero for six on third down.

936
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 3: They lost the time of possession battle forty two minutes

937
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 3: to seventeen minutes. It was not a fun game for

938
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: me to watch. I can't imagine it was. I can't

939
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 3: imagine it wasn't a fun game for me either. Oregon

940
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 3: scored all seventeen of its points in the first half,

941
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 3: for what it's worth, Iowa States or twenty eight of

942
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 3: its thirty four in the first half as well. But

943
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: there's a lot of exchange going back and forth there,

944
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 3: especially in the second quarter again, thirty four to seventeen

945
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 3: year final. Give me your thoughts, heyday, you did the

946
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 3: stream with Jeff. I saw some folks talking through in

947
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: our discord about how they enjoyed you both just playing fan,

948
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 3: not playing analysts, but playing fan on the live stets.

949
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 3: What was it like being a fan as your team

950
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 3: was losing pretty handily to Iowa State.

951
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: The way in which they lost was essentially the worst

952
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: way as a fan to watch your team lose. But

953
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: I came away impressed with Iowa State more than anything,

954
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: because this was not an Oregon team I expected much from.

955
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: I know, I picked Oregon to win this game because

956
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: of how well they looked on defense against USC. But

957
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: more than anything in this game, it's Iowa State is

958
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: not particularly explosive on offense. You know, they lean on

959
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: Breise Hall to grind out tough yards. They lean on

960
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: a couple tight ends to make plays and bigger moments.

961
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: You know, Chess Coler We've raved about on this show.

962
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: But Rock Purty made throws. They didn't make mistakes, and

963
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: they took advantage of a number of Oregon mistakes, which

964
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: is what very strong teams do, which Iowa State, for

965
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: all of their deficiencies, especially early on with special teams

966
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: against Louisiana, kind of poetic to close the year out

967
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: taking advantage of Oregon's special teams mistakes, which includes a

968
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: weird pooch kick that bounced away from Oregon and to

969
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: Iowa State a couple dozen yards downfield, Oregon touching a

970
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: punt incidentally, and Iowa State recovering a couple fumbles interception.

971
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,479
Speaker 1: And I don't want it to sound like excuse making

972
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: as an organ fan, because I've long held one Iowa

973
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 1: State's really good and two really good teams take advantage

974
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: of the other team's mistakes. And Iowa State put together

975
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: like a twenty play drive for a touchdown. They finished

976
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: their drives, they came through on third and fourth down,

977
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: they made plays in the second half. And while it's

978
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: not a again not a particularly flashy offense to watch,

979
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: there's an identity to Iowa State, and so to beat

980
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: a team like Oregon with the first time our program

981
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: like Oregon, I don't think this team is all that impressive,

982
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: but the program certainly has been in these big moments.

983
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: Iowa State on this stage for the first time, to

984
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: beat a program like Oregon by seventeen dance at oup

985
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: clones really nice punctuation on an impressive year, and hope

986
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: they're able to build on it. With Matt Campbell seemingly

987
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: coming back, even though his name seems to be in

988
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: those conversations for open jobs. Matt Campbell looks like he'll

989
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: be back, which is great for Campbell, great for Iowa State,

990
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: and again hope they build on it. By yeah, Oregon,

991
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: you know they made They were shuffling both Tyler Shuck

992
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: and Anthony Brown. Anthony Brown looked stronger, but he himself

993
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: made some mistakes. They ran the ball relatively well, but

994
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 1: it was the defense that that really was impressive for Oregon.

995
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: They held Iowa State down in the second half, but

996
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: they just couldn't get off the field. I mean, if

997
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: you look at the offensive numbers, Aregona had a much

998
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: better day offensively, but you know, Rock Purty was happy

999
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: to just keep Nickel and diamond and to the tune

1000
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: of a seventeen point win, how do you complain? Move

1001
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: for the Clones.

1002
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 3: Thirty four to seventeen year final and finally A and

1003
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 3: M wins forty one to twenty seven.

1004
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 1: This is a good game. This is a fun game.

1005
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: Most of the.

1006
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 3: Way last ten minutes of this football game is really

1007
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 3: when A and M asserted itself. That's probably how fair

1008
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 3: to say. I would say pretty much most of the

1009
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 3: fourth quarter is when we saw A and M asserting itself.

1010
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: This was a twenty seven to twenty seven game, you know,

1011
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: late into the football game, but we had A and

1012
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 3: M basically scoring on what.

1013
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: Three was it three.

1014
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 3: Consecutive drives or close to three consecutive drives three times

1015
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 3: at least four times if you count the field goal

1016
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. The last three touchdowns of the game.

1017
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 3: We had Kellen On making some big plays with some

1018
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 3: big plays of the running game for the Aggies here. Yeah,

1019
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: this was a game where if you followed along on Twitter,

1020
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 3: you had a lot of folks saying this team thought

1021
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 3: it could be in the playoff and they're struggling with

1022
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 3: a hollowed out North Carolina team. And for a chunk

1023
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 3: of this game, they did struggle to some extent with

1024
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 3: they hollowed out North Carolina team, but to their credit,

1025
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 3: they pulled it together down the stretch. I thought the

1026
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 3: way they closed this game was pretty damn impressive, So

1027
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 3: kudos to them. Kudos to Jimbo Fisher. We know he's

1028
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 3: trying to build something at College Station and this was.

1029
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: A good game for them.

1030
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 3: We also got to see some of the youth movement

1031
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 3: on the UNC side. Tony Grimes, a cornerback that we've

1032
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 3: talked about here and there, had a pretty good game.

1033
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: For the other part too.

1034
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, Josh Downs, I think it's going to be

1035
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 3: a problem. He's got incredible speed and we saw him

1036
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 3: with two touchdowns in this football game. Daz knew Something

1037
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 3: had a really nice catch at a touchdown on his own.

1038
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: Sam Howeans a certified dude, right. He made some big

1039
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 3: throws in this game, and no doubt was gonna end

1040
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 3: up being a high draft pick at some point. So

1041
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 3: a lot to build on on both fronts. But A

1042
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 3: and M does get the w here by fourteen.

1043
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: Yes, and A and M generally needed four full quarters

1044
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: against a lot of the teams they played this year,

1045
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: which is fine because if you can close strong like

1046
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: they did against North Carolina, it works out well. And

1047
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: I was I was impressed with Kellen Mond, was Devin

1048
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: at Shane at Chain who had the long touchdown run late.

1049
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm impressed with all sorts of elements. And North Carolina

1050
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: actually got after Kellen Mond early impressively, something that they

1051
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: weren't always doing all year long. But I have what

1052
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: I might consider to be a dangerous crush on a Niasmith.

1053
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: I can't watch I can't wait to wat him play

1054
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,959
Speaker 1: football again. Yeah, Like we talked about A and m's

1055
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: because of injuries and opt outs, what the receiver group

1056
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: isn't what we thought it would be during the off season,

1057
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: and he got carries. He lined up all over the

1058
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 1: field and was impressive all year long. But on this stage,

1059
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: and not that North Carolina's defense is anything spectacular, but

1060
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: to show out like he did, I think it's more

1061
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: of a I can't wait to see what he does

1062
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: with the rest of his career the station because yeah,

1063
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: now we're talking now in an upper level SEC weapon

1064
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: and that's it's fun as a fan when you are

1065
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: giddy about what's what's to come. So I'm excited as

1066
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: just a college football fantasy how he's weaponized at A

1067
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: and M moving forward. So yeah, really nice win on

1068
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,959
Speaker 1: the ground especially, but made plays and you know Sam

1069
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 1: Howell and once again you're right, he's just he really

1070
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: Like it hurts me to say it, ty, but he

1071
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: does have at Baker Mayfield do a little bit. There

1072
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: is that scrap to him. Yeah, and a terrific beard.

1073
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: It's an l Borland quality coming in nicely. Yeah, coming

1074
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: in very nicely, and neither one of us can do that. No, no,

1075
00:55:59,200 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: and that does it.

1076
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 3: I think that's gotten us up to date here now

1077
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 3: on Bowl season. So for those of you Patreon subscribers

1078
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 3: who are out there who played in the Winter Wonders game,

1079
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 3: you will see the leaderboard update shortly. I have to

1080
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 3: send in the results of our special Fantasy Things style

1081
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: prop bets that we had on there. Only a couple

1082
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 3: of them hit, but I've got a listing. I will

1083
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 3: send that out and hopefully the leaderboard will update very

1084
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 3: very shortly. Also, as we've mentioned a couple times here,

1085
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 3: we are going to be doing a live stream throughout

1086
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 3: the course of that National Championship on January the eleventh.

1087
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Speaker 3: We're going to do our best to bring in some

1088
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 3: guests as Ohio State and Alabama take the field. We

1089
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: will have more info on that one to come for sure,

1090
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 3: so do stay tuned. I also was able to convert

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00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 3: over that Sarctober file into an MP three.

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Speaker 1: I have not heard this in years. Okay, I'm ready.

1093
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 3: I don't know what this sounds like. So this is

1094
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 3: the first but let's let's have a listen.

1095
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 2: Stober, can you say seven wins? Here we go again October.

1096
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: Little Moon River quality to it. Moon River shout out

1097
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: Andy Williams, long time verballer, So bring it back. By

1098
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: the way, you mentioned Pat Fitzgerald and NFL head coaching

1099
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: potential open to interviews. I saw Adam Schefter open to interviews.

1100
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter said thirty four minutes ago. Ryan Day apparently

1101
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: is not because his name came up with in conjunction

1102
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: to the Jaguars job in the NFL, not South Alabama

1103
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: and Urban Meyer apparently in the mix with the Jacksonville Jaguars,

1104
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: and I think they have number one overall pick, right.

1105
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 3: They have the number one overall pick, presumed to be

1106
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, right, and that is they fired their GM

1107
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 3: as well. So not only is that a hot cody

1108
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 3: in the GM world because you get to pick Trevor Lawrence,

1109
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 3: but also in the coaching world, especially if your a

1110
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 3: guy like an Urban Meyer, we can go in. You

1111
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 3: can start with your quarterback, especially so you might maybe

1112
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 3: start with personnel power as well. Personnel power, Yeah, who

1113
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 3: knows what Urban would command if he went down there,

1114
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 3: But it is looking I think increasingly likely that he's

1115
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 3: going to take that role and Jacksonville. Given the circumstance

1116
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 3: being able to pick Trevor Lawrence, I think that's you know,

1117
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 3: they've got some young talent on defense, at least to

1118
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 3: the extent that I know the NFL. So you would

1119
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 3: think that that's a promising start for urban Meyer at

1120
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: the next level if he would choose to go in

1121
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 3: that direction.

1122
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: Texas has a new coach, and I want your thoughts. Well,

1123
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: we mentioned briefly that Sark is taking over. Well, first

1124
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: give me your Herman thoughts and then give me your

1125
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: Sark thoughts, and just your thoughts about the process of

1126
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: it all.

1127
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 3: My Herman thoughts and my Sark thoughts are I think

1128
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 3: joined at the hip. Okay, I'm surprised that Sarks has

1129
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 3: done a really good job at Bama, And no matter

1130
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 3: who you talk to what you read, everyone says that

1131
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 3: he's learned a lot and matured a lot since some

1132
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 3: of his previous struggles, and that he is primed for

1133
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 3: a big opportunity like this like that. Congratulations to him

1134
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 3: on getting this Texas job. It just struck me as

1135
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 3: odd that Texas would see Sark as that big of

1136
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 3: an upgrade over Herman that they would choose to pay

1137
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 3: out fifteen potentially twenty four million dollars to be rid

1138
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 3: of the previous system and bring Sark in. Now, if

1139
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 3: reports are to be believed, part of the war of

1140
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 3: a Sark was that he could attract, you know, other

1141
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 3: assistants who are exciting to have on that top, a

1142
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 3: guy like a mush Champ, Right, he might be Herman

1143
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 3: did that, but.

1144
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: Herman did that too, That's my point. So Herman did that, well,

1145
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: he got a year, He got a year with Mike

1146
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: Y're sick and Chris Sash.

1147
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 3: I was just my thought is I was surprised first

1148
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 3: off that they would make this call as late as

1149
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 3: they did. Maybe there is a recruiting element to it, okay,

1150
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 3: But secondly that they would go through all this rigamarole

1151
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 3: to make it Sark. It's one thing if it's urban Meyer, right,

1152
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 3: but for Sark, which it was. It was urban Meyer

1153
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 3: until it wasn't for Sark, though, Well, I don't know,

1154
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 3: I don't know how I feel. I thought that it

1155
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 3: seems like I make the case. Go ahead, make the case.

1156
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: So I'll make the case for getting rid of Herman

1157
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: and for hiring Sark. You get rid of Herman because

1158
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: he recruited really really well. He outpaced everybody but Oklahoma

1159
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: on the recruiting trail, and the talent level is extremely high.

1160
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: He had talked about this, I think was also with

1161
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: the Max Olsen piece about circling twenty twenty, as you

1162
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: have fourth year starter in Sam Ellinger, and you have

1163
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: all these guys with a ton of experience from his class,

1164
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: from I think the twenty eighteen class. I think that

1165
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: was the Caden Sterearns year. Just a lot of talent

1166
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, a lot of experience

1167
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: on both sides of ball. This is what he pointed

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01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: to and I think to a lot of people within

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01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: the Texas program as this is the year and they

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01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: just they can't help but play up and down or

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01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: basically play down to teams. They can't separate from anybody. Essentially,

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01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: you know, losing to this year's TCU team, needing to

1173
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: come back to take Texas Tech to overtime this year

1174
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: with the supposed playoff adjacent or playoff type team that

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01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: Tom Herman envisioned. And so when it was clear that

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Speaker 1: that wasn't happening, that Texas couldn't separate, that they still

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01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: were screwing up the little things against not lesser teams,

1178
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: but teams with lesser talent. You know, allegedly that it

1179
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: just it wasn't going in any sort of appreciably upward direction.

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01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: And so if you're Texas and you have the money

1181
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: to buy out, you know, fifteen to twenty million dollars

1182
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: worth of coaches, and you have the stomach to take

1183
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: a big swing, knowing that you could very well miss poorly,

1184
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: like they did with urban Meyer early on in December,

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01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: allegedly reportedly given Tom Herman and Urban Myers now pretty

1186
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: tenuous relationship in past, even though Tom Herman was urban

1187
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: Meyer's offensive coordinator, It's hard to see Tom Herman wanting

1188
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: to in the program, wanted to come back from that

1189
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: like that. It just feels irreparably damaged. And so I

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Speaker 1: think it was a matter of Texas at that point saying, Okay,

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01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: he's coming back, which I guess technically for the first

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01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: part of twenty twenty one. He was back in twenty

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01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: twenty one for like a day and a half, but

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01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: it just seemed like that they use that time to

1195
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: vet guys and have these whatever back channel type conversations,

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01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: and obviously given Sarks very public missteps as a head

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01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: coach at USC and at Washington, that he needed to

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Speaker 1: be vetted thoroughly that he you know, he was sober

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Speaker 1: that he had been behaving him himself and had risen

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Speaker 1: to the occasion from a personal standpoint, you know, given

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01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: that he was an analyst in an offensive coordinator pretty

1202
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: quickly on the sport's biggest stage. And I suppose it

1203
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: reportedly Texas was happy with what they saw and what

1204
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: you get from Sark. The best of Sark is somebody

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01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: who can make immediate improvements like he did at Washington

1206
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: after they went zero to twelve and he took them

1207
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: to a respectable level a bowl program if you remember

1208
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: the Keith Price years, and then at USC recruiting at

1209
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: a very high level at a place you should recruit

1210
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: at a very high level. So if he hires good assistance,

1211
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: he's going to recruit his ass off at Texas. And

1212
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: now it's not the most difficult place to do that,

1213
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: but you can take steps back like Tom Herman did,

1214
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: so the talent level will stay or even get higher.

1215
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: At Texas. We saw a record breaking offense at Alabama

1216
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: with high level talent, So you know, he should be

1217
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: able to bring in comparable talent to Texas and a

1218
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: crazy offense. Now, well, he's not going to have his

1219
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: fingerprints on the offense at Texas like he does at Alabama,

1220
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: but he is going to have control and say and

1221
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: has a vision for things. He's been a head coach

1222
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: at two pretty big places, including one blue blood place

1223
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: with high demands in USC. So the experience the best

1224
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: of his ability is impressive. And the things that must

1225
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: be done at Texas to succeed on a national level,

1226
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: He's been at huge places. He understands the day to

1227
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: day of the pressures of a place like Texas. That said,

1228
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: it's still a big swing. It's a risk, It's an

1229
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: absolute risk, given the way he flamed out at USC

1230
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: and given how safe things can be at Alabama, considering

1231
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: Nick Saban's greatness, and it sort of that you just

1232
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: have to come in and you're selling something that's already

1233
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: been sold. You're selling a fully operational death Star machine.

1234
01:04:55,880 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: So when you leave that kind of nest, things get Harry,

1235
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: Jeremy Pruett, Kirby Smart, Derek Dooley, Mario Crisp, like all

1236
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: these guys are learning for better or for worse, what

1237
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: it's like to leave a pretty secure nest like that

1238
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: and to go to Texas, go to Austin. It's a

1239
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: swing and I can appreciate it because Texas going after

1240
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: a proven winner, but with a ceiling, you know, sort

1241
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: of an in place ceiling, it's not going to get

1242
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: the job done on the national level. So I feel

1243
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: like they do just need to take this giant crack.

1244
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: And as for Steve Sarkisian and the issues that Texas

1245
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: has had with head coaches, Tie, do you know what

1246
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: the Chinese Super League is? I do. It's the biggest

1247
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 1: for if you're not listening, is it? It's the biggest

1248
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: soccer league in China? Right, it's the Yeah, the soccer

1249
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: league in China. It's the soccer league in China. And

1250
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: a lot of times the stars that come from whatever

1251
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: the EPL or La Liga or wherever, if they're really

1252
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: looking at cash, oh yeah, if they're really looking to

1253
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 1: retire in a real sweet place financially, that's where they had.

1254
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: And so I'll never fault anybody for saying yes to

1255
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: Texas and all the dysfunction that may come along with it,

1256
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: because Texas may be seeing a future a vision of

1257
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: college football playoff national championships. That's a retirement plan. Coaches

1258
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 1: should just fight over that job because your family is

1259
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: secure forever. If you take the Texas job, it's an ATM.

1260
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's Tom Herman getting fifteen million not to coach.

1261
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: There there are congratulations a.

1262
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 3: Couple of Brazilians making a ton of coin in the

1263
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 3: Chinese Super League right now.

1264
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. Look good for Sark.

1265
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 3: It is truly a redemption story for him given some

1266
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 3: of his struggles.

1267
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: Very public struggles.

1268
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 3: We hope it works out for the University of Texas

1269
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 3: as they move on past Tom Herman. I'm curious to

1270
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 3: see what Herman does now. My guess is that he's

1271
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 3: probably taken a year off, but he would serve certainly

1272
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 3: be a name in hide to Band on the offensive

1273
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 3: coordinator side of things, given his history.

1274
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: But we'll see.

1275
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 3: We'll see where it goes for him. Perhaps another coaching job,

1276
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 3: another head coaching job as well could be.

1277
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 1: I did see. I think it looks like all arrows

1278
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: are pointing to Don Brown to Arizona to be Jed

1279
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: Fish's defensive coordinator, which I think would be a bit

1280
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: of a coup considering how well he did at Michigan

1281
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: for at least in large part, and Kellen Moore not

1282
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: going to Boise State, which appears to open the door

1283
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 1: for Andy Avlos, Oregon's defensive coordinator, who was in that

1284
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: same role at Boise before and certainly a star linebacker

1285
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: his day for Boiseus. So you know, this is when

1286
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: the carousel really starts spinning, when we see playoff coaches

1287
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: get eliminated, you know, guys at Notre Dame, guys at Clemson, whatever.

1288
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: And this is when I think we have a coach's convention.

1289
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's virtually, I don't know how

1290
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: it works this year, but this is when we see

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Speaker 1: a lot of those assistants and position coaches and coordinators,

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Speaker 1: and it all starts trickling down right now. So we'll

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Speaker 1: keep paying attention and keep giving our average thoughts, our

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Speaker 1: average shots.

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Speaker 3: So the final point before we let the fine people go, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we've gotten questions, we do need to provide an update

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Speaker 3: on the Patreon front. So let's as we get a

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Speaker 3: little bit closer now into off season mode.

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Speaker 1: We've had folks say, well, what are you going to

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Speaker 1: do in the off season?

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Speaker 3: You don't have a reaction show can't offer some of

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Speaker 3: those same benefits as before. So we've been spending a

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Speaker 3: great deal of time in the lab trying to figure

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Speaker 3: out what can we do that would provide some value.

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Speaker 3: The first thing that we are prepared to offer is,

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Speaker 3: you know how every year, generally every year, we'll do

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Speaker 3: one of those off topic shows that really drums up support.

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Speaker 3: You know, we've had Bill Barnwell on before. We've talked

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Speaker 3: about things like pop punkin emo, or video games or

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Speaker 3: all sorts of different topics that are big hits among

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Speaker 3: the verballerhood. We have now committed to doing one of those.

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Speaker 3: I think it's every third Friday of every month throughout

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Speaker 3: the course off season. We'll sprinkle in some of the

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Speaker 3: Q and A that we get from our Patreon subscribership,

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Speaker 3: but that will be a bonus feature available to our

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Speaker 3: certified verballers. We're also going to be doing video, so

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Speaker 3: we'll be doing a normal monthly Q and A segment

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Speaker 3: that we've done throughout the course of pretty much every

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Speaker 3: off season now, but we'll be doing a video release

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Speaker 3: of that which will only be available to our Patreon subscribers.

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Speaker 3: And also we've got some other extended audio that we're

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Speaker 3: planning on doing, whether it's interviews, whether it's some limited

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Speaker 3: run themed stuff that we've got planned that we're not

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Speaker 3: prepared to unveil at this point, but we're working on

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Speaker 3: some things in that vein, and we think that all

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Speaker 3: of them lend themselves quite nicely to extended audio releases,

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Speaker 3: much the same way that some of our reaction shows

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Speaker 3: like this one will lend itself to extended commentary. We

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Speaker 3: think that content falls into the same category. So you

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Speaker 3: get access to all those extended content drops as well.

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Speaker 3: You'll also get, if you are a premium reball or

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Speaker 3: access to more video content, so video releases of that

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Speaker 3: extended content, video releases of some of those special off

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Speaker 3: topic Q and A shows that we end up doing.

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Speaker 3: So we're really trying to steer into our video capabilities here,

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Speaker 3: trying to steer into what we know a lot of

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Speaker 3: folks like, which is that off season Q and A content,

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Speaker 3: some of the off topic content. We are really going

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Speaker 3: to pay a pretty heavy focus to some of the

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Speaker 3: stuff that went on I think in calendar year twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty and just how strange it was right like this

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Speaker 3: is we're living through precedent to times, it's a lot

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Speaker 3: to unpack. The only other update on the Patreon side

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Speaker 3: is that if you're interested in getting either the pint

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Speaker 3: glass or the coffee mug, we're going to be phasing

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Speaker 3: that out at least temporarily at the end of January.

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Speaker 3: So again, check us out atverbawllers dot com for more

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Speaker 3: information on.

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Speaker 1: What we have to offer. Okay, uh, that's all I got.

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Speaker 1: All right, I have a pretty fun game for you

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Speaker 1: that we're going to s after we hit hit end

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Speaker 1: hit end here. But yeah, that's all I have as well,

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Speaker 1: and drink a lot more tea. Let's prepare for that.

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Speaker 3: Everybody out there, Stay warm, stay healthy. We will talk

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Speaker 3: to you all soon. In the meantime for that guy,

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Speaker 3: I'm my good friend Dan Ruvenstein from myself, Tie Hill

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Speaker 3: and brand.

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Speaker 1: You all stay solid.

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Speaker 3: Es