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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the Harry Megan book has been extremely explosive

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Speaker 1: and such a pop culture phenomenon and it doesn't even

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Speaker 1: matter what my opinion is or anyone's opinion is. Um.

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Speaker 1: But I was thinking when the texts between Megan and

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Speaker 1: Kate were made public, which just like, that's so crazy

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Speaker 1: that someone could share with the media texts between family members,

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Speaker 1: much less royal family members. It's crazy. I bet you

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Speaker 1: in the future, families family members will have to sign

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Speaker 1: n D A s AL. They'll get sued. Although you know,

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Speaker 1: like in the future, if someone is dating Prince George

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Speaker 1: when he's older and he's going there, going and and

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Speaker 1: she or he is going to be around the royal

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Speaker 1: family with him, they'll probably have to sign an NDA,

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Speaker 1: no question about it. If you thought your text would

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Speaker 1: be released, Uh, they could never do that. On The Housewives.

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Speaker 1: It made me really think of the Housewives, like Megan

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Speaker 1: is playing from the Housewives handbook, because when we first

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Speaker 1: started out in the Housewives, no one showed receipts at

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Speaker 1: a reunion, No one ever dare read someone's text. That

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Speaker 1: started happening years later, and that's a common practice now

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Speaker 1: in the Housewives too. Show texts to print out pages

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Speaker 1: of correspondence show emails. And it's funny because on this

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Speaker 1: podcast I've talked about how crazy that is. Like I'm

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Speaker 1: friends with Kelly Ripper, for example, and I can text

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Speaker 1: her crazy things. She knows no one's ever reading them.

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Speaker 1: She knows that I would never It's like part of

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Speaker 1: my code barring something illegal, like ring you know, something

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Speaker 1: seriously illegal, where you you must prove something you know.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe that people share text and I've even

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Speaker 1: had people share my messages that go through Instagram publicly,

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Speaker 1: like to you know, for clickbait. I cannot imagine sharing

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Speaker 1: texts between myself and someone else unless it were a

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Speaker 1: very very serious matter, life or death, stealing or illegal.

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Speaker 1: I can't really imagine that. And it's just funny the

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Speaker 1: things that get glossed over. So okay, argument's sake, every

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Speaker 1: single word Harry Megan say is true. They've had a

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Speaker 1: terrible time of it. We don't need me to go

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Speaker 1: on about it again. But just the fact that Megan

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Speaker 1: would share texts between Kate and Megan, because there are

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Speaker 1: probably it never ends this Housewives. This is housewives, So

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Speaker 1: so what happens with the Housewives is someone shares with

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Speaker 1: seats and then someone says, oh, what about that time

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Speaker 1: when this happens. So I'm sure Kate, I mean, but

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Speaker 1: Kate's not playing in the Housewives sandbox. Like Kate is

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Speaker 1: rising above as a member of the royal family. She

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Speaker 1: cannot go back and forth and start showing whatever text

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Speaker 1: she has or whatever story she has. One party is

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Speaker 1: be frustrating. That can be frustrating. It happened to me

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Speaker 1: during my divorce. I said not a word. People had

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Speaker 1: a certain feeling about things, and there was nothing I

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Speaker 1: could do until things came out years later. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: there were a couple of people that worked within the

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Speaker 1: have worked surrounding the royal family. They're no longer there,

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Speaker 1: and they have said that the Royal Family is not

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Speaker 1: really running down the hall every chance they get to

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Speaker 1: leak something just because somebody's not getting enough attention, or

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Speaker 1: because it just doesn't seem that plausible that like every

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Speaker 1: time Megan got more popular than Kate, that they would

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Speaker 1: put negative stories. It just it just doesn't all track

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Speaker 1: that much. It's very Housewives. So Megan Marco is showing receipts.

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Speaker 1: M okay, so Lisa Arena has left the building. Um,

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Speaker 1: she brought it. She was an iconic housewife. In fact,

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Speaker 1: in the beginning I called Andy and said that Lisa

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Speaker 1: would be a great housewife and he was not into it,

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Speaker 1: and um, I told him he should reconsider. And Lisa

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Speaker 1: and her husband called me to ask me if they

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Speaker 1: really bring it. She was not someone who was afraid

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Speaker 1: to get dirty. She really did immerse herself. When I

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Speaker 1: used to see her in the crossovers that I would do,

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Speaker 1: she used to wear just like the sheep dresses and

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Speaker 1: have that signature short hair. And then to be honest,

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Speaker 1: I Erica Jane started a whole onslaught of labels and

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Speaker 1: glam squads, and Erica is the reason that Dorey and

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Speaker 1: Kyle everybody have their fashion level at that game. It's

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Speaker 1: fully the award for greatest impact on glam and fashion

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Speaker 1: in the Housewives undeniably goes to Erica Jane. Dory hopped

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Speaker 1: the fashion. But if you go back and look at

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Speaker 1: the read season one, it wasn't like that because of

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Speaker 1: Erica Jane and the way that she treated every scene

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Speaker 1: like a stage. Everybody else stepped it up. And Lisa

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Speaker 1: Rinna is the greatest example of that. If you go

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Speaker 1: back and watch how she used to dress and in

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Speaker 1: the end with the Fendi suits head to toe and

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Speaker 1: the glam and the hair, and we call her and

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Speaker 1: the alter egos, and she really she really did change.

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Speaker 1: Like she was absolutely different style wise and otherwise. She

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Speaker 1: really immersed herself in that entire culture. Uh so much

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Speaker 1: so that she just was different, like personally and professionally.

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Speaker 1: She just seemed different as someone who knew her before

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Speaker 1: and after. She just seems some people the show changes,

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Speaker 1: and um, Lisa definitely definitely changed. She became more of

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Speaker 1: a character in many ways. But you know, God lover,

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Speaker 1: she will do anything for you know, the check the

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Speaker 1: headline that depends like and she came on the show

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Speaker 1: needing the gig and she made it last for eight years.

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Speaker 1: I mean, she really was on for a long time.

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Speaker 1: She probably made a lot of money, she made a

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Speaker 1: lot of deals. She changed her life and syon Aara

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Speaker 1: and people ask if it doesn't matter if she got

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Speaker 1: fired or not. You know, I'm sure her contract was

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Speaker 1: up and Bravo probably just didn't renew. The audience probably

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Speaker 1: needed a little cleanser. Uh. I think she was maybe

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Speaker 1: love to love. Um. I think she was maybe love

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Speaker 1: to hate, meaning people love to hate her. And then

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Speaker 1: I think she might have become hate to hate. And

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Speaker 1: I want to explain what that means. Hate to hate.

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Speaker 1: If someone hates to hate a character, it's because it's

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Speaker 1: making them feel bad about themselves, like they feel a

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Speaker 1: little ikey watching. And it has happened on Jersey, It's

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Speaker 1: happened on different shows, happen on Atlanta. It's when the

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Speaker 1: show has jumped the shark. They have to make a

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Speaker 1: change because it's just not fun for the viewer anymore.

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Speaker 1: And the viewer is there to escape and to have fun.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that is part of what happens.

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Speaker 1: And you can't really blame the housewives because in order

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Speaker 1: to stay on the Housewives, you have to have a storyline.

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Speaker 1: In order to have a storyline, you can't really be

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Speaker 1: the under the radar Kristen Takeman Jacqueline player. You have

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Speaker 1: to really get in there, and to get in there

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Speaker 1: means you might be in the line of fire, so

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Speaker 1: it's hard to figure out the dance of how deep

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