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Speaker 1: with a group and we were like, well that was

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00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,240
Speaker 1: all for nothing because the player that we took is

423
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,000
Speaker 1: it here. So we start packing up. We head outside.

424
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,199
Speaker 1: We hop on the shuttle heading back to the hotel.

425
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,840
Speaker 1: We're on the shuttle driving to the hotel. Also we

426
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,240
Speaker 1: see we trade back, rays trade back. We're on the

427
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,119
Speaker 1: on the shuttle. We say stop the bus. Stop the

428
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,520
Speaker 1: bus stop the bus, hop off the bus, run a

429
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,080
Speaker 1: mile back to this guy look kind of physical shape.

430
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm in a full suit though I'm in a full suit,

431
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 1: and so I found him to get back in there.

432
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 1: I am dripping sweat, and I caught up to you,

433
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,480
Speaker 1: and you had so much stuff going on, and I

434
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:58,920
Speaker 1: was basically if you remember you had to do like

435
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 1: you had to do stuff for like like it wasn't

436
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 1: even thirty minutes. And I was like, like, are you

437
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 1: ready for you to feel like that's going? It's great?

438
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,359
Speaker 1: Did you notice? Did you notice how bad I was

439
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 1: sweating when I cut up? You know, because you know,

440
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 1: I was like, you had so much I had so

441
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,680
Speaker 1: much stuff going on, So like, all right, I gotta

442
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,159
Speaker 1: do this. You're cool, that is yeah, right, we can

443
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,880
Speaker 1: just go we can do it all. Whatever, Just get

444
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 1: me to Baltimore. Now, well, now that you're in Baltimore,

445
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 1: what is there anything like that has just like surprised

446
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 1: you about being an NFL player now or what? No?

447
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,879
Speaker 1: Not really, yeah, not really, I guess because you know,

448
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm coming out of college and all the stuff that

449
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 1: was going on when the Higman and all the people

450
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 1: knowing your stuff like that. So just being in the

451
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 1: league not much for the change for me. Yeah, you're

452
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,159
Speaker 1: already big time with the Higesman stuff. I wasn't big

453
00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 1: time a bitch. I'm just like no popular. Yeah. Well,

454
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 1: one thing that we've talked a lot about. You got

455
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 1: some questions about a drink minicamp was the play calling stuff.

456
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 1: So take us through this because I don't because people

457
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 1: say he didn't call plays in college and now you're

458
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 1: calling but actually, you know, um, I would call it

459
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: plays in college. We had no hard system, but I

460
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 1: had to go to the sideline, give me the place,

461
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: and I had to run back gout on the filing

462
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 1: just go over to playing and stuff like that. But

463
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 1: it took me like almost a year to do that

464
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 1: comeing out of high school. High school, I did not

465
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: call places. So how sign signals? No, just hand signals.

466
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 1: They gave me hand signals in high school. Uh, that's

467
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: just everyone. You know. It wasn't like I couldn't ligne it,

468
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 1: but my coach just didn't do it. Even in the

469
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 1: youth football league, I used to have to go to

470
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 1: my coach, run back to the fielding, and just go

471
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 1: over to play, you know. But in high school, we

472
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: didn't do it. They just gave us hand signals. So

473
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 1: when I got to college my first year, we're doing

474
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 1: hand signals. Then we'll call some plays. But here it

475
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 1: is just like the NFL. The difference between the college

476
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,959
Speaker 1: and NFL calling places. You gotta let everyone know their

477
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: assignment and some of them might not. To you, it

478
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 1: might not make sense, but it's just like you probably

479
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 1: tend to the I'm gonna say tight end and get

480
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: off the ball. You might think it's emotion or something

481
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: like that. So that's what I had to get that

482
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 1: going in my mind, like okay, this is what this

483
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: is me, you know, had to break it down and

484
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So that's why in my hand set

485
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 1: and sometimes course Marty how you speak, he told fast, yeah,

486
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: this and that right like bread to pay down and stuff.

487
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm one more time. But that's not the place. It's

488
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: just like when I went to rookies and stuff like that,

489
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 1: I might have to say it over and because the

490
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: van's be telling me sometimes they're like, no, it's just right,

491
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm alright, my fault, you know. So yeah, but I'm

492
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 1: instead of you know, going over studying that, just trying

493
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 1: to see the place I can break it down and

494
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: make it more easier on myself for the player to understand.

495
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: How do you practice that? Like saying, I'm saying my

496
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: loud that's interesting. So you've been doing that for the

497
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: past couple of months. Yeah, I got better soon. It's work,

498
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: It's great. You know what's funny is, you know one

499
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 1: of the things that when you first got drafted here,

500
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,360
Speaker 1: everyone wanted to know about how you and Joe get along.

501
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: And we've seen it on the practice field. You guys,

502
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: you know you're you're talking, you guys are meetings all

503
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: the stuff. Were you Were you at all amused or

504
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: by the whole conversation around that, Like no, because like

505
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: I did not reach out to him and he didn't

506
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: reach out to me. So I don't know where it

507
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: came from. You know, I guess they wanted to start

508
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: something up between man. But it was like, no, we're

509
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: grown man, right, every one of us a business. You know,

510
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm a rook. I'm coming to time to learn right right.

511
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: And it was just it was this dialogue that basically

512
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: people wanted to create that there was like tension between you.

513
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 1: Guys didn't want to create a story. To me, they

514
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: still look good. I guess I wasn't work. I was

515
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: that anything that did that bother you guys at all?

516
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: Like it didn't not didn't bother me at okay, not

517
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: not at all good to me in that quarterback room.

518
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: Just r G three. How big of a resource has

519
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: he been to you? And when I talked to me,

520
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: he said, he kind of looks at you like his

521
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: little brother, you know, another highs and turfy winner, you know,

522
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 1: another African American quarterback, correct guy who comes in here.

523
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: How a man your resource has he been to you?

524
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 1: What advices he had for you? I'm just like pak

525
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: on and stuff like that, you know, just how to

526
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: tell me simple things, you know, what's going on in

527
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: the system and stuff like that. How he looked at

528
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: it from his perspective, and that's all you know what

529
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: you're going by that you know, I've talked to him.

530
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 1: I think he kind of struggled with that perception, right,

531
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: Like he came into the league and he wanted to run,

532
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: but they're saying you have to be a pocket passer.

533
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: You know, that's out, that's that's that's all they got,

534
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: no win to run. You gotta know when to throw

535
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: the ball. That's how I go by because he kind

536
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: of had advice to you in terms of managing that.

537
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: Oh no, not at all. James Ermine has. He'd be like, listen,

538
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 1: you get out there and we want you to throw

539
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: the ball, you know, but if not there, you know,

540
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: you gotta play ball, play ball. And that's how I

541
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: go by. You know what about when it when it

542
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: comes to taking hits, obviously that's what everybody talks about

543
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: with the quarterback, that's but you know they changed the

544
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: rule with slide and so you don't have to really slide.

545
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: You can really die for something like that slide giving

546
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: yourself up, Like I'm gonna give myself up on what

547
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. Whatever, did you slide better than Joe?

548
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,959
Speaker 1: Because Joe he's got this knee brace and I need

549
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: to practish, I need to pregnt slip before ye, r

550
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: G three and problem slide when he was in Washington too.

551
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 1: He couldn't get down really right exactly. That was. That's

552
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, is r G three. He's gotta help

553
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: you stay healthy. That's what we need. I want to

554
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 1: stay healthy. Yeah, I seen games, games, super Bowl. That's

555
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: all a mamah. By the way, did you trademark believe

556
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: that if I need to? Right, Yeah, you gotta believe

557
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: what I'm saying right that interview with Dion be on

558
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: a T shirt. Yeah, definitely that I don't trademark. This

559
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: is is an oral trademark that he just gave us

560
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: right here. You heard it first. Yeah, right, how much

561
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: what have you had in some of these creative ways

562
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: in the packages that they're using you on? You know,

563
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: we give away too much of the details, but they're

564
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: finding ways, you know, to get you on the field

565
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: because you can be special. Yeah, but you know they

566
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: just we talked about it talking to on the will

567
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: see Yeah, yeah, we'll see. We're gonna tell you a

568
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: little bit about your your personal life, just your background

569
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: and your your mom. I mean, we understand that she's

570
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: a good big rule model on me. Yeah, she cool.

571
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: You know how she care herself. You know, when she

572
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: care herself, I wouldn't say like a man, but you know,

573
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: she's strong minded. You know, she's very smart and intelligent.

574
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: You know, people don't understand that. I guess like they

575
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: try to come up like come to her and approach

576
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: her the wrong way, but they don't know her and

577
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: they don't know like her background. Like she's not dumb

578
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 1: at all. So when you come out here with certain things,

579
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna get what you're looking for. Yeah,

580
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: it's awesome. Yeah, she's very smart, like she gave me.

581
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, oh my bad. She's like, no, this

582
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: is how I go. You know, she breaking down. Yeah,

583
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: she knew everything, you know a lot, and I understand that.

584
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: Basically she was really pivotal and kind of when you

585
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: were young, playing for me, like all right, okay, I

586
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,719
Speaker 1: started two thousand and four, but atter it like they

587
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: didn't really care out like my mom my dad, and

588
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: they was like all right, you can play, but it

589
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: was not like oh yeah, you're gonna train this and that.

590
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: So like when I started playing, I'm scoring touchdown my

591
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: raising me to the Z. Like she's so happy because

592
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: like she I'm the oldest, so me and it was

593
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: like me and my brother at the time. So like

594
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: my brother didn't play because he was younger than me

595
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: at the time, so he couldn't play that year. But

596
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: when I'm playing, I'm running to the end and she

597
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: beat music and she's like, you're good at this and that.

598
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: So like was she like, oh you, um, you want

599
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: to be great. I'm like I want to be great.

600
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna recarding there. Like she was already fit,

601
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: like she's run chat. When she was younger, she played basketball.

602
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: She should be good at basketball. Now I don't know

603
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: she's to be good, you know, she should be playing football.

604
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: My uncle to them when she was younger. My uncle

605
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 1: telling me story like yeah, she was good. She used

606
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: to hit us, she let you know, beat us and

607
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: running stuff like that, something like wow, that's crazy. So

608
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: that's why I get I think I get my urge

609
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: to you know, play football from and um, we need

610
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: to run over bridge like I stayed in Cyprus. Like

611
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: it's this bridge, like the highway bridge. We're running on

612
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: the las side, walk up that bridge, run over, come back,

613
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: run over again. That's what she had me doing. Like

614
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm like eight at the time. She had't

615
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: me doing that it. She used to beat me like

616
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: the next year, like when I could last started to nah,

617
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, na, she can't beat me. So we're running,

618
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: go over the bridge, come back, go back over the bridge,

619
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: and like we stayed like it was a gate, but

620
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: people put a hold in the gate, like to get through.

621
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: Where are beating through the gate? You know? I started

622
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: beating there. She had me. I was the year did

623
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: not play football when I got to high school. That

624
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: was my tenth grade either she said, you're gonna work out,

625
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: like you're gonna be with somebody team, like all right,

626
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: But when it was time to go, I'm like, man,

627
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: She's like, no, you're gonna work today a coach Van Warren.

628
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: That's my coach, coach Peanut you calling. Yeah, I'm out

629
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: there every Sunday working with him. When my mom had

630
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,239
Speaker 1: me lefting weights and she had me doing it all

631
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: that she was she wouldn't let me slack at all,

632
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: you know. But people don't understand like where I get

633
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: that from, Like they just always just happened overnight. But

634
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: it's a crime, is it true? I read that she

635
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: was sometimes put the pads on. Yeah, okay, I was.

636
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: I was okay. So my brother playing this time, he

637
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: like seven years old. No, he probably see eSeL. So

638
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: my brother playing, I'm hitting him. He getting mad, but

639
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: he was my brother, like he's not small. He was

640
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: bigger at the time too. So I'm hitting me getting

641
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: back like like hit me like that all right, she

642
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: hit me. I was like, I'm like, okay, but I'm

643
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: not gonna cry, you know, no, I gotta set an example.

644
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,719
Speaker 1: So we're gonna go at it now. We just statish

645
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: backing each other like we're hitting and people look at

646
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: her like a girly girl. But it was just like

647
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: she was the same way then, but it was like

648
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: she was aggressive, like, oh no, she didn't beat you know,

649
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: I can't. I could lose. My told I was, I'm

650
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: not gonna lose to you. No, my mom is not

651
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: gonna do this to me. And then like one time,

652
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: she was always on my side no matter what going on.

653
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: So my father like it was like between the backyard

654
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: was the departments, like it was our house, our neighbor's horse.

655
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: It was connected and I'm in the backyard of it,

656
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: and like my my father got into it, like not arguing,

657
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: but it was just like, oh, he can't do from

658
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: the back yard to the front of the street. I know,

659
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: he couldn't bet me, like you know, just a friendly competition.

660
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: So she's like, lamar getting football. I'm like, all right

661
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: to show up my mom, my mom, know, go to

662
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: the front road. Throw it. I told you to get

663
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: my money. Like, yeah, we were having fun and like

664
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: it was cool. She was always you know, she's always

665
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: the same person. But now she's just like quiet, like

666
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: she don't like she don't talking like media. You know,

667
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: she's not like that. She sit back and just you know,

668
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: let the games play, right, she s back and just

669
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: in all these things. She talked to me about certain things. Yeah,

670
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: you bring up your dad, and I mean that was

671
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: a traumatic experience for you listeners that don't know. I mean,

672
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: when you're eight years old, my father and grandmother passed

673
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: on the same thing, and that, you know, my mom

674
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: told me that like that was her, that's her mother.

675
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: Like she called her grandmother because she ready good a

676
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: little but that's her grandmother. So she was like, you know,

677
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: don't cry. She told me, don't cry. She like, but

678
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: my but you know, grandmother just passed two same day.

679
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: Don't cry. So it's like I'm around everyone, but like

680
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: she said, don't cry. So like that's how she just

681
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: raised me differently. I mean, how did that shape you?

682
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously that's your eight years old that I

683
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: just had to be a man early. That's how I

684
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: had to take a lot of things seriously. But you

685
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: know I really didn't because you know, I was still childish.

686
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: I was the childis I'm always cracking jokes and stuff

687
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: like that, having fun. But at the same time, you

688
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: had no one turnout one turn out, right, I guess

689
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: can you give us, like, give us an example of

690
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: like how you had to be a man? Like what

691
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: in what ways did you have to grow up faster

692
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: than you would? Just send an example for my brother. Yeah,

693
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: you know, um, making sure things are cleaning around the

694
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: house like that, that's just how to do because you know,

695
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't have with job bat man, so my mom wreaking.

696
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure everything around the house right for

697
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: That's just how we went by. Make sure my brother

698
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: good too. Yeah, so do you? You then obviously have

699
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: to lean, you know, really heavily on your mom, you know,

700
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: because your dad, your dad passes, but it was already closed,

701
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: like family always closed, no of the what got you

702
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: guys already had that relationship. I'm close to my dad.

703
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: Then you were the father's boy. You were you definitely

704
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: and now you you're proud to say mother's no problem

705
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: with mother's boy. That's a bad honor. And you started

706
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: playing football right around this time, you know, when I

707
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: started playing like and passing stuff like that, um with

708
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: other kids, like when I was seven. But I've been

709
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: playing street football my cousin, like they like see seeing

710
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: and stuff. I'm playing with them. So that's why I

711
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: think I didn't really care about, you know, taking hits

712
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: from big and stuff. Did when all this happens and

713
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: you lose, like really two close family members, does his

714
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: football become like an outlet or no? You know, I

715
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: just went by the same way. Okay, I was still

716
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: I was still a kid. You know. It was just

717
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: like they just passed away, and I didn't know at

718
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: the time. It was like hard that you didn't really grass.

719
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: I didn't really. I didn't really grass with that all.

720
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: I can't understand. It was like they probably will come

721
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: back one day, you know. I didn't take death like

722
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it like it's a movie and my

723
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: mind that's how That's just how I looked at it,

724
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: like you probably come back one day, you know. It

725
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: was just that was always my mom when I was

726
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: a kid, but until I got like a little just

727
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: like oh they're really gone, like ain't no coming back. Yeah,

728
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: so fast forwards. Now you know your mom is a

729
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: huge prayer life. Yeah. And also your manager, I mean

730
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: your business partner. Yeah, because she was always about her

731
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: business when I was younger. She was always about it,

732
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: like you couldn't just come to her and just tell anything, right,

733
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: She's gonna know everything about it, something about the situation.

734
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: So was that when when you were deciding whether I'm

735
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: gonna I'm like, you're gonna be my manager? What did

736
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: that like? Just coming out of high school and I'm

737
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: gonna let you be my manager? Only trust the people. Really,

738
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm not letting nobody just come to me with anything, right.

739
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't know how I was raised, so that you

740
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: must have had people probably coming at you from the

741
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: time that you were really young. Yeah, I was coming

742
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: to me with crazy stuff like yeah, I'll come to homeway,

743
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: like you understand how you feel about this. Oh no,

744
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: that sounds crazy. That's just how it went by. Is

745
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: that why you didn't hire a nation No. I told

746
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: I ain't want to, you know, I just see I

747
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: just felt like when guys were coming out of um

748
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: call it and stuff like that, like, you know, I

749
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: got friends in the NFL teams in the NFL, Like

750
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: what does agent do? You know? I don't know what

751
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: these agents do? You t him so you can do

752
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: that yourself, like you have your managed to do that

753
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: or something, right, like yeah, but like your agent is

754
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: you know, they just I'm like, I don't want to

755
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: Asian man, right, I'm gonna keep that three percent. I'm

756
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: just gonna keep my three right. Do you think that

757
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: that will inspire other players to go that route if

758
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: you do? Yeah, I think that's why they were trying

759
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: to bask me so much, like oh, you need to

760
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: get an agent, this and that. That's why you went

761
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 1: thirty second. You don't matter, right, you really don't matter.

762
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: They want to keep business, skilling that they want to

763
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: keep going. But at the same time, you can't be

764
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: trying to jip these people, right, like you're gonna do

765
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: your job doing right. Do you think that you think

766
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: that had an impact on where you got drafted. Um,

767
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: it probably did. Whatever, it doesn't matter, right, come here,

768
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm home, so I feel good. I'm interested in In

769
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: our conversations with Harry and with some of the other rookies,

770
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: they talked about you as just like a quarterback of

771
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: the people. You know, like you'll talk to anybody's defense reserve,

772
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: defensive back, like just like everybody just gravitates towards you. Yeah,

773
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm cool. Whatever one. You don't have, no problem, no

774
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: bad blow, no one. You know what position you play,

775
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: don't care if you like even in college, you could

776
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: walk on my teammates part of the organization. I'm cheating,

777
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: just like you want to start not read? Man? Is

778
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: that just cheat up? What is it? Janitor? The same way,

779
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: too slappy is like us, Yeah, you doing the job.

780
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: You just organentation. You don't even have to build the organization.

781
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: Long as you're come to me the right way. You know,

782
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to you as long as you don't

783
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: steal the players only snacks anymore. Exactly are you hungry?

784
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: If you if you're hunger, you got it, go forward

785
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: real quickly. I saw this. Tell me if this is true?

786
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: I read an article that you can throw a football

787
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: hundred yards. I don't know about now I was. I

788
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: was just on go balls and that I was. I

789
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: was pretty mad. I gotta get back right because when

790
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: I was young, I could throw what happened the small

791
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: ball man? I was, yeah, high school. I was probably

792
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 1: was one eighties song like six foot field high school,

793
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: going to tell my see you really? And I was.

794
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: I was shocked. Came my teammate on the one ground

795
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: called him bolo. He was like, you like, throw the ball.

796
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm throwing it, throwing it to the A zone. Probably

797
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: started for the fifty and wrote my way back up,

798
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: like all the way back. He's like, throw ninety all right,

799
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: I through it. You're like all right? He said, you

800
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: got it. You got it, So like, all right, come

801
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: on through it. The egg got lost in the m.

802
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: I just threw it high as far as I could.

803
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: I called all the way back to myrow foot, like

804
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: all the way to the grass. And then when I

805
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: seen it, it's a grand name smooth. She was recording.

806
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: She's like, oh my god, Lamar. It's on YouTube. I

807
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: think you can hear sing through the whole field. I

808
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: was shocked, but at the same time, I celebrate like

809
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: I knew I can do it any cool shocking at

810
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: the same time. So what's your macusistance now? Oh no,

811
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: probably seventies that don't try to throw out his arm

812
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: the right time, I might have to use it right. Well,

813
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: thank you, all right, So thanks to Lamar for joining us. Uh.

814
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: He's just a likable guy. He's got a great personality.

815
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: He laughs a lot, he's easy to talk to. Um

816
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: and I think what he said is is really true,

817
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: which is like, basically, he treats everybody with respect. And

818
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: Ozzie Knewsom said that when we talked to him on

819
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: the podcast last week, the thing that has struck him

820
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: the most about Lamar is the way that he carries

821
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: himself around ability, treats everybody with respect, has always got

822
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: a smile on his face. And I think that there's

823
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: something to be said for that. Yeah, he's just a

824
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: very affable guy. Yeah. I mean he's just like you're like, oh, yeah,

825
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: he could just be my buddy that I hang out

826
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: with and play man with on the couch and uh,

827
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: And I think that bodes well for you as a quarterback.

828
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: You the other thing that the Ravens have mentioned, is

829
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: like he just has that in factor. He has the

830
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: in fact where you're like, oh, this guy's gonna do well.

831
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: The teams are gonna love him, and I mean you

832
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: see why. Also because he gives credit to everybody else,

833
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: like not like basically we had to like pride the

834
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: fact that you won, not like a fake phoony way either.

835
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: Not like I know I'm supposed to say this because

836
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: it's the right thing to say. It's just like he's like,

837
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: what are you kidding? I don't bluck myself. So you

838
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: realize that, right? Yeah? You know, Yeah, I agree with

839
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: you because it's sometimes certain guys that can just feel

840
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: like they're doing because I feel like they have to eat,

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Speaker 1: not because they're like this is what leadership looks like.

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Speaker 1: Like Lamar is just being Lamar. Yeah, it's so really

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Speaker 1: exciting stuff. I think Ravens fans should be very excited

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Speaker 1: about the additional Lamar Jackson. We don't want to you know,

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Speaker 1: Joe is gonna be the guy this year. Let's remind

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Speaker 1: everybody that let's not put the cart before the horse.

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Speaker 1: But I think when Lamar Jackson, when it becomes the

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson Show, I think it's gonna be really I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be saying this year. Just see what

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Speaker 1: they come up. We'll see basically, I think we'll see

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Speaker 1: some trailers on The Lamar Jackson Show. Yeah, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. So that does it

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Speaker 1: for us this week on the Lounge. As always, you

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Speaker 1: can email us at the Lounge at Ravens dot NFL

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Speaker 1: dot net. Uh and if you're wondering why my voice

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Speaker 1: is kind of jacked out a little too much singing

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Speaker 1: in a music festival, so I'll have that corrected before

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Speaker 1: our next episode. So thanks for listening and we'll be

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