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Speaker 2: John Middlecoff, former NFL scout Out is his podcast We

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Speaker 2: about Let's not waste any time. Philly beats Kansas City

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Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. Although the deep over the top throw by

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Speaker 2: Mahomes made it feel kind of closer than it was.

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Speaker 2: It did feel like in the second half. John Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: in my lifetime does a better job at one thing

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Speaker 2: than any time I've ever seen. If they need a yard,

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Speaker 2: two yards or three yards between the O line, Hurts

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Speaker 2: Saquon and some of their sort of counter tight end

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just automatic.

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Speaker 2: They are so good and Hurts, you know, let's be honest,

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Speaker 2: Hurts trailing in the pocket is not my favorite guy

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Speaker 2: in the league. I don't think that's a specialty. But

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Speaker 2: I really this is one of those games. There was

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Speaker 2: never a point. I kept thinking Philadelphia is gonna eventually

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Speaker 2: wear this team down, and I'm kind of surprised Kansas

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Speaker 2: City clawed their way back. What are your basic interpretations

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Speaker 4: You know, I thought, going into that drive where Travis

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Speaker 4: and they take it to the fifty, and I mean

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Speaker 4: that tackle Josh Simmons running down the field to save

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Speaker 4: the game. I thought, if Kansas City scored there, now,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they could slow down Philly they

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Speaker 4: had that time, But I mean, you just never know.

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Speaker 4: With Sakuon and like you said, some big playmakers, they

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Speaker 4: were just gonna have to win that game on Guyle toughness,

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Speaker 4: and it was gonna be if they had pulled that off.

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Speaker 4: Let's say Kelsey catches it or that doesn't happen and

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Speaker 4: they score just an incredible championship like metal type game

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Speaker 4: for them. But they don't have much right now. You know,

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Speaker 4: Worthy being hurt, Rice being suspended, You know that. I

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Speaker 4: thought Travis was having a good game until that moment.

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Speaker 4: Obviously Patrick missed you know Thornton earlier. Yeah, in that drive,

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Speaker 4: we ended up hitting him, which might have given them

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Speaker 4: a little more time. They wouldn't have to force it.

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Speaker 4: Let's face at Kansas City right now. I expected defensively,

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Speaker 4: they got shredded last game against her and and Hirts

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Speaker 4: they were going to bring it defensively. But offensively, I mean,

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Speaker 4: they got an old Kelsey Hollywood Brown. I mean their

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think they'll be fine when they get

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Speaker 2: I think they'll find their way. Denver losing the game

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Speaker 2: they should have won today, that's a huge break for them.

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Speaker 2: So I mean that that game ends up being big

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Speaker 4: Well, in Monday night football, someone has to lose between

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Speaker 4: the Chargers and so you're not they're not running away

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Speaker 3: But I did.

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Speaker 2: Feel and you know, Chiefs fans don't want to hear this,

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Speaker 2: I mean, they didn't take one big shot down the

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Speaker 2: But I felt Philadelphia's kind of felt like, Okay, we're

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Speaker 3: Gonna grind these guys out in the second half.

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Speaker 2: And it was just one of those things, especially after

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Speaker 3: The line was one and a half. It was I

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Speaker 3: said it Friday on the Herd.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, guys, it's gonna be a close game late

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Speaker 2: I thought, But I thought Philadelphia I felt in the

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Speaker 2: like they brought in a closer in baseball and they

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Speaker 3: Seven nine, a lot? Well.

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Speaker 4: Brady mentioned it though on the goal line play where

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Speaker 4: I do think the Chiefs they everything they have, they

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Speaker 4: just don't have much right now. And one elephant in

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Speaker 4: the room is Kelsey's old Now. Now, granted he was

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Speaker 4: having a good game relative to what he's been in

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Speaker 4: end up scoring was a crippling moment for a team.

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Speaker 4: This is not the twenty nineteen, twenty twenty twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: one version they cannot score against. Let's face, they're playing

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Speaker 4: Vic Fangio, who's one of, if not the best defensive

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Speaker 4: I mean, you see Jordan Davis looks. Look how that

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Speaker 4: Obviously, Jalen Carter's one of the best players. You know,

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Speaker 4: that's pretty devastating because you threw everything you had, Your

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Speaker 4: You know, if Worthy can get healthy, you're just gonna

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Speaker 2: And Denver's got a better roster. But Denver gave that

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Speaker 2: So you know, I still contend they're gonna be a

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Speaker 2: wild card team in this division. They'll be fine. A

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Speaker 2: game that was hard to watch, but I watched almost

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Speaker 2: all of it. Detroit fifty two Bears twenty one. Outside

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Speaker 2: of Roma Dunze for the Bears, not much worked, you

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Speaker 2: know I was. And by the way, the Lions they

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Speaker 2: go for it so not kicking field goals. That's just

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Speaker 2: who they are. That's Dan Campbell. So you got to

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Speaker 2: get over that Bears fan. But I got to tell

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Speaker 2: you I watched that game today and after the first drive,

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Speaker 2: have look fine. It's a timing offense and Caleb Williams

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Speaker 2: and it just becomes ad libbing. It's backyard football. I

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Speaker 2: don't think this is gonna work. I don't it's the

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Speaker 2: second week in a row, the first series. Again, they

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Speaker 2: dial up. They got about eight to ten plays. It

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Speaker 2: looks fine, it's very tight, but how many plays can

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Speaker 2: you script? And then they go off script and he

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Speaker 2: clearly Caleb doesn't see the field particularly well. And then

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Speaker 2: then he's flushed out of the pocket.

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Speaker 3: He made six seven, eight throws today.

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Speaker 2: Rolling to his right. He just kind of threw it

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Speaker 2: But you know, I'm I'm looking at my notes here

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Speaker 2: and yeah, I just keep writing their ad libbing again

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Speaker 2: Roma Dunza. You'd feel good by the way Luther Burden

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Speaker 2: so I mean, like zero. They have weapons, They've drafted

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Speaker 4: Do you know what I wrote down? I watched two

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Speaker 4: documentaries in the last week, Billy Joel and Charlie Sheen

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Speaker 4: and whenever they get married, you could see the divorce

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Speaker 4: coming from a mile away, especially with Charlie. And in

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Speaker 4: this situation, I've been saying that from this doesn't just

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Speaker 4: But we have seen Hall of Fame guys get with

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Speaker 4: those plays that show Ben Johnson getting really mad. That

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Speaker 4: cannot happen. Right. Obviously, there are gonna be plays where

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Speaker 4: nothing's there. The Lions are gonna be hard to beat

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Speaker 4: a this is a marriage that is not meant to be.

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Speaker 4: Their styles do not mesh up. And we have seen

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Speaker 4: time and time again that these coordinators with quarterbacks when

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Speaker 4: I do not pick you. Here's the thing with with

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Speaker 4: bo Nicks, who threw a bad second half pick. He

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Speaker 4: played an excellent first half. But Sean Payton is tied

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Speaker 4: to him. That's his guy. He loved him right. There

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Speaker 4: this job, maybe intrigued by Caleb, but you see through

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Speaker 4: two weeks his his mannerisms on the sideline with his face,

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Speaker 4: and it's that this was an Eberflu's game. I mean,

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Speaker 4: this was pretty embarrass It's not all Caleb's fault. This

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Speaker 4: was not like he was worse last week. But this

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Speaker 4: is not this This the Bears are a joke.

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Speaker 4: You and I've been talking the organization I wrote down

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Speaker 4: Ryan Poles is this is this roster the most overrated

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Speaker 4: the Lions are missing players. From last year and that

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes Caleb loses confidence when I watch him

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Speaker 4: When sometimes there's pressure and there's nothing you can do,

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Speaker 4: just like he's just taken off. For years, Mark Schlarath

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Speaker 4: Kyler's head is up now he scrambles, probably sometimes at

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Speaker 4: I this there's no way this is sustainable. Obviously you

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Speaker 1: The ship with this guy.

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Speaker 4: Why because Sean Payton will go down with bo Nicks, right,

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Speaker 1: It's not possible.

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Speaker 4: And they're clearly the worst team in there. Ackers looked

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Speaker 4: just a better operation. The Bears are in major trouble. Guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I there's a reason in the preseason that

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Speaker 2: About a week later, they signed him to a very

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Speaker 2: Caleb's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 3: You sell that to the media.

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Speaker 2: But he needs a week off, he needs to get

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Speaker 2: to get this ship going. I could see one more start,

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Speaker 2: I really could. And then you go to Tyson Beijing.

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Speaker 4: I would say you're crazy because once you Ben Sam,

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Speaker 4: I mean, Bryce Young is any good or not. I

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Speaker 4: So there's precedent in the league of like, hey, you

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: The one thing I didn't quite realize. He's wired.

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Speaker 4: He's not like a loosey, goosey offensive coach, you know,

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Speaker 4: against it. To jump from the jump. It's way ugler

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Speaker 4: than I thought. And today was like a referendum not

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Speaker 4: just on Caleb, the entire organization. I mean Ryan Poles the.

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Speaker 2: Last Earth I've watched Pennix. I would make a bet

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Speaker 3: Jaden's a star.

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Speaker 2: again today he moves the chains. I don't think he's great.

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Speaker 2: I think he needs another year. I mean that's what

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Speaker 2: is unrefined. But it is very possible from what I've seen,

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Speaker 2: and it's not close. We're going to have five hits

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Speaker 4: I think the thing with Caleb Williams, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: a disaster. I don't care what stats you give me

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Speaker 4: last year. I think when you have that great of

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Speaker 4: sometimes in which is human nature, maybe you struggle to

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Speaker 2: Good well in person when you see him his head,

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Speaker 4: me is where you get The Ben johnson stuff is, like,

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Speaker 4: scheme is touch. Place look At Jared goff, today a

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Speaker 4: lot of. It IT'S i, mean he threw a couple of,

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Speaker 2: LOT i think You're the one point you made THAT

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Speaker 2: then they're just it's just not working. Again Roma dunze

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Speaker 2: just you've got to USE i, Mean i'm watching all

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Speaker 2: ENDS i mean he's spraying the ball. Around everybody's getting.

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Speaker 2: TOUCHES i mean In, chicago it's, like if you're THE,

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Speaker 2: these are good. Players So i'm almost interested in Watching Tyson.

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Speaker 2: BAGEN i think, OFFENSIVELY i think they actually have some

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Speaker 4: You just get me a point, guard they can get

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Speaker 4: that With Anthea. Richison because balls are, skipping he's, running

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Speaker 2: buccaneers coming from behind on a game they could have

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Speaker 2: lost six different ways and sort of gutted it. Out

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Speaker 2: tonight The buccaneers have a punt, block they give up

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Speaker 2: makes a, play goes seven of nine for sixty five

432
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 2: yards on the final, drive And tampa went. It But

433
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:22,679
Speaker 2: tampa had a disastrous special team's performance at various. Times Mika,

434
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: abuka a great young, receiver dropped what should have been

435
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 2: a huge.

436
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 3: Play down the.

437
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 2: Stretch they struggled in pass protection With Baker. Mayfield but

438
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,160
Speaker 2: THE nfl mostly comes down to in close, games who

439
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 2: makes the big plays with under a minute thirty, left

440
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 2: And tampa. Did baker with a huge, Scramble baker with

441
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 2: a couple of, Ropes Bucky irving breaking tackles on that.

442
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 2: Run they just made their big plays the last time

443
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 2: they got the. Football The texans made several big plays

444
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 2: in the third. Quarter so it's such a go either way.

445
00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 2: League BUT i was watching neither. QUARTERBACK i mean, Again

446
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 2: texans are owing To bucks two to, zero and a

447
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 2: lot of it is. Circumstantial tampa's just made big plays

448
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: on the road Against, atlanta big plays Against, houston And

449
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 2: Baker mayfield is a big part of. That AND i

450
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,199
Speaker 2: was thinking about this.

451
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 3: TODAY i was writing this down going into this.

452
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 2: Game BECAUSE i think. C. J stroud And Baker mayfield

453
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 2: both have gotten their teams into the. Playoffs think about.

454
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: This i'm going to name the quarterbacks right now that

455
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 2: are capable of winning double digit games or getting to the. Playoffs,

456
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: Mahomes Josh, Allen Lamar, burrow C. J, Stroud, Baker Herbert, Goff,

457
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 2: Hertz Dax, Stafford Jordan, Love, Kyler, Murray Gino, Smith Aaron,

458
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 2: Rodgers Sam, Darnold, Bownicks Jaden, Daniels brought Perty, t who

459
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 2: has been a pro, Bowler Trevor, lawrence you know he

460
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 2: did get his team and won a playoff. Game that's

461
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 2: twenty one quarterbacks in thirty two. Teams i'm not Counting Mac,

462
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 2: Jones Daniel jones Or Russell, wilson who had great games

463
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 2: yesterday when they have the right coach and the right.

464
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 3: Fit i'm not.

465
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 2: Counting Michael pennix or Cam ward Or drake may WHO

466
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: i think are going to make it in this.

467
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 3: League i'm not.

468
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: Counting Caleb williams OR jj, McCarthy Who i'm not sure

469
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 2: of at this moment in. Time caleb's certainly talented. Enough

470
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: but total between all those quarterbacks twenty. Eight so there's

471
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: a lot of guys that can spit it in this.

472
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,479
Speaker 2: League but it comes down TO i Mean buccaneers go

473
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 2: on the, road, punts, blocked returns, SURRENDERED i mean dropped, passes,

474
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 2: sacks multiple. Sacks Baker mayfield was a pinata for a couple,

475
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 2: series and they figure out how to win. Games and

476
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: it's just like The Denver colts game had to go

477
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 2: either way. Game there's an ify sketchy call by the.

478
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 2: Official Shane steichen does actually a poor job coaching on

479
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 2: that final. Drive he admits it after that he got

480
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 2: two conservative but they get an officiating break and they.

481
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: Win and by the, way they made a great interception

482
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: on bow knicks in the fourth. Quarter so The colts

483
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 2: also had several big. Plays offensive Lead Daniel jones was

484
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: hummon at key moments in that. Game but so much

485
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 2: of this game it's just coaching and quarterback play and

486
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: who gets the ball last and who makes the last

487
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: big play in a. Game AND i know, YOU i

488
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 2: think you THINK i don't Like Baker, mayfield BUT i

489
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 2: do think the offensive coaching is the best it's ever.

490
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 3: Been in my.

491
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: Life and that's why you're Seeing Geno smith And Sam

492
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: donald And Baker mayfield And Mac jones yesterday that was

493
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 2: the best Game Mac jones has ever.

494
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 3: Played, well It's Kyle.

495
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 2: Shanahan so the offensive coaching in this league is really

496
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 2: spectacular right. Now and what it allows is for quarterbacks

497
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 2: who may fail in their first organization that Eventually Baker

498
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: mayfield goes to The rams and then he goes To

499
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: Tampa bay and eventually he finds his. Way And Sam

500
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: donald goes To caroline and The. Jets then he goes

501
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: To San, francisco understands the. System kevin O'Connell likes. Him

502
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: now he's In seattle and he's gonna win a lot

503
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: more games In. Seattle so, eventually the the message is

504
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 2: in THE, nfl if you're talented, enough you will find

505
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: a good offensive coach or a great. Situation tampa is

506
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: perfect For, baker you, know It's tampa's a little bit

507
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 2: of a pirate ship and ebor city and a little

508
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: bit of a rebel and an outcast. City it can

509
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: be a party, town it can be a retirement. Place

510
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 2: but it's always been With jason light THE Gm they've

511
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: got tons of, Talent they've always had, talent but until

512
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 2: they Got Tom brady and Then. Baker they couldn't get

513
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: the quarterback. Right you, Know Brad johnson won A Super,

514
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 2: bowl but it was a stacked. Roster But tampa's got.

515
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 2: Players they've won their, division what two three years in a,

516
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: row and GOOD, gm good quarterback, play and they've kind

517
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: of now feel like they're in control of this. Division

518
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: SO i picked them to win this. Division and you

519
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: know it comes down to if you give me the

520
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: best quarterback in a, DIVISION.

521
00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: I like my chances to make it into the.

522
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: Playoffs But Kansas city With mahomes is eventually probably going

523
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: to get His Xavier worthy, Healthy Rashi rice will come.

524
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: Back they'll figure out a way to win ten games

525
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 2: and get into the. Playoffs they're too good, defensively too

526
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 2: good of a, coach too good of a defensive. Coordinator

527
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: mahomes is due. Talented they'll figure out how to win ten.

528
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: Games but you, know AS i watched this, game it

529
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 3: could drive you sports. Better is.

530
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 2: CRAZY i LIKED i actually Like houston tonight so AND

531
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: i thought they had it with two huge specialty teams.

532
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: Plays they earned both of. Them legitimate block, punt great.

533
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: Return the referees picked up the, flag But baker gets

534
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: the ball last and has got all sorts of weapons In,

535
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: Tampa Chris godwin wasn't. Available he's been banged up throughout his,

536
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: career and SO i get ready For raiders and The chargers.

537
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 2: Tonight you know the other, THING i got a couple

538
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: of texts after my show today from people in The

539
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: National Football league in the front, office and they were

540
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: agreeing with me on my take today about. Quarterbacks Mike

541
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: sandel also wrote an article about. This Justin field is

542
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: banged up again And Joe burrow is banged up. Again

543
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 2: it's not that they deserve to be, hurt but there

544
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: is a skill To brady And Eli manning and CERTAIN

545
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 2: nfl players staying. Healthy, now some guys Like Josh allen

546
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: are just simply bigger and can take more or more

547
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 2: Durable but Even Big ben And Cam, newton who are

548
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 2: huge men like six' five two fifty five six six two,

549
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 2: Sixty Five big ben aged. Very Quickly cam newton. Aged

550
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: overnight why they took too, many hits And So josh

551
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: allen similarly gets, beat UP and i worry about that

552
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 2: could age. Him now he does have a great. Left

553
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: tackle they have Now With james cook developed a, run

554
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 2: game and so they're not as reliant on and they

555
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: actually run more statistically if you look at, the data

556
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: then people would think With. The bills but some of

557
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: this is just you've got to know. Your body, You Know,

558
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: baker mayfield who, like tonight, you know there's a couple

559
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: Of times baker's a great. Core back if he give

560
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: him two and a half seconds and let him plant his,

561
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 2: right foot he throws a beautiful ball for The RECORD.

562
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 3: Soda. Cj stroud baker throws a beautiful ball when it.

563
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: Breaks down baker plays with so much confidence and so

564
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: much emotion when the, you know the pass blocking. Breaks

565
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: Down sometimes baker extends a play, and SHOULDN'T and i

566
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 2: think that's just it's a. Little RECKLESS but i think that's.

567
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 2: His personality, You know baker is, you know he's a

568
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: full back that. Plays quarterback he's a linebacker that. Plays

569
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: quarterback he likes the physicality of. The sport but even

570
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: as big and Strong As andrew, luck was it just takes.

571
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 3: Its TOLL so i.

572
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: Really do believe there is a skill in this league

573
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: just staying on. The Field eli manning was the master

574
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: of just letting go of the ball getting rid. Of

575
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: it and there's also players think, how big strong And

576
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: Physical anthony richardson was For, the colts but he couldn't

577
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: get the pre snap. Stuff down he couldn't spot blitzes

578
00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: and would get just hammered two or three times. A

579
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: game and despite, His Size anthony richardson was dinged up.

580
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: A Lot justin fields is, a, big athletic. Twitchy athlete

581
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: he gets banged up. A lot, so Listen the bengals

582
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: are a cheap organization that you spend more on the.

583
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: OFFENSIVE line i mean, To me i've always looked at

584
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: it like your quarterback Is. Your bentley the offensive line

585
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: is the. Insurance policy you wouldn't own a beautiful car

586
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 2: without an. Insurance policy so it's the most important unit

587
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: on the field is protecting, your asset, the franchise. The

588
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: Quarterback since naty can't figure, that out so it's just

589
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: time and. Time again you kind of roll your eyes At.

590
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: The bengals but some of it is, on Quarterbacks not

591
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: sometimes you gotta just let a play end and move

592
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: on to the. Next play and it's very hard for

593
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: Guys Like baker mayfield who are super. Hyper competitive he's

594
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: just Trying to he's squeezing every ounce of talent out of.

595
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: His Frame but BAKER and i just took some shots

596
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: that he should. Not take because this Team in tampa's

597
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: got a pretty good. Defensive front they have some. Nice

598
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: weapons But if baker's, not playing they're not a. Playoff

599
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: team baker is, a, huge huge the most important part

600
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: of them dominating that division the last. Several years and by,

601
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: the way coaches also get. Second Chances todd Bowles In

602
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: new york didn't feel he quite he wasn't quite ready

603
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: to be a. Head coach he's done a great Job.

604
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: In tampa they always come, with surprises always make.

605
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 3: Big plays they just had a really bad night in.

606
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 2: Special Teams but tampa wins at twenty, to nineteen and

607
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: that IS. The nfl look At the buccaneers first. Two

608
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: games they could be zero. And two they're two. To

609
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: zero they got, the quarterback they made a couple of key.

610
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 2: Situational plays they have played completely, imperfect football And the

611
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: bucks are two to zero with two very. Narrow wins,

612
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: All Right josh pate. Joining us he cuts through like

613
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: nobody else with. College, football obviously Host Of Josh Page College,

614
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: football show which. Is FANTASTIC so i got into this

615
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: discussion the. Other day i'm known AS a, usc homer

616
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: SO and i lean into IT because i think it's obnoxious.

617
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: And funny, but whatever we all have our team or

618
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: our region. Or WHATEVER and i was talking to a

619
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: friend the other day WHO'S A, ucla BRUIN and, I

620
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: said i just. DON'T think i DON'T think ucla is a.

621
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: GOOD job i think it's one of those where it

622
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: sounds like it should. Be good, you're, like oh there's

623
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: a lot of money In, bel air but it's an.

624
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: INTERNATIONAL university nil punishes college. Football programs you. Can make

625
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: you can be a top ten college basketball program with

626
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: about four million a year in college basketball if you're

627
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: not at sixteen, to eighteen which is where USC's. AT now,

628
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: i mean there's a reason USC's defensive front. Looks better

629
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: they bottom line. Of it so my TAKE with ucla

630
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: is they are bottom half Of the big TEN in

631
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: nil because it's In. Bel, air josh you can't really

632
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: and it's a. Public university your coaches have to drive

633
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: forty five minutes or an hour. TO work i don't

634
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: think it's a. GOOD job i do not think it's a.

635
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: GOOD job i WOULD if i was, AN agent i

636
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: would not send my best. CLIENTS there i don't think

637
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: it has a. Huge brand you tell me you Live.

638
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: IN nashville i spent eight nine Years In. LOS angeles

639
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 2: i don't think it's A good i don't think it's

640
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: A good i don't think it's a top thirty college.

641
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Speaker 3: FOOTBALL job i would.

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Speaker 1: GO further i don't think it's top. Forty five like

643
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: you're talking ABOUT multiple g five jobs that are BETTER

644
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: than UCLA. And i when we, Say that by, THE

645
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Speaker 1: way i know people who don't live in this world

646
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647
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Speaker 1: you have an ax, to grind like you just, Talked,

648
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Speaker 1: about oh that's. Usc, moriism, WELL dude i grew Up In, Harris,

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Speaker 1: county GEORGIA so i got no dog in. This fight

650
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Speaker 1: i'm just telling YOU what, i PERCEIVE but i could.

651
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Speaker 2: To.

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00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: ME colin i just go. To COACHES when i see

655
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: a coach's name and the running for, These jobs i'll

656
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: just go to the Coach and i'll, ask him and

657
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: they'll usually shoot straight, with YOU and i just think

658
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: Probably even i've been a little taken back by how

659
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: many people who in a previous lifetime we would look

660
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 1: at it the job, they're at and you, would, think

661
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: oh it's a slam, dunk yees he can GET the.

662
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: Ucla job he's going to. Take it that in the

663
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: modern day look at it, and, say dude there's. No

664
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Speaker 1: way and we're not just talking about, head Coaches like i'm,

665
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Speaker 1: telling you there are coordinators. Out there there are prettyhigh

666
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Speaker 1: level coordinators out there that would not leave where they

667
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: are right now FOR the. Ucla job and you mentioned

668
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: it's bottom half Of the. Big ten well that's in.

669
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Speaker 1: A vacuum, so yes it's bottom Half of big ten.

670
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: In vacuum but then like, you said when you, factor,

671
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,239
Speaker 1: in hey if you Take the, ENDIANA job i mean

672
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Speaker 1: you could Do like signity and blow. It up but

673
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Speaker 1: even if it's Not what signitti has, made it you're

674
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Speaker 1: going to Live, In bloomington indiana. Very affordable so you're

675
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: asking me to go take a bottom. Half job you're

676
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: going asking me to be distant second in my. Own

677
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: town you're asking me to be second on my own

678
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: campus when it comes to the. Athletic department you're asking

679
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: me to take over a place WHERE the nil infrastructure is.

680
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: Really discombobulated they're not fractionally as put together in football

681
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: as they are for basketball there and you're, asking me by,

682
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: the way to compete with superpower Programs Like oregon Right

683
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: And ohio State And penn State. And michigan THERE'S just

684
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: i don't have much good to say. ABOUT it I

685
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: wish i. WAS wrong i wish you.

686
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 3: Were wrong.

687
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 2: We're, NOT yeah I mean i and the football stadium's

688
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: forty five minutes.

689
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 3: OFF campus i.

690
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 2: Think there was a time when you could you could.

691
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 2: Get away there was a time when It Was terry

692
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: donahue And then Dick for meal and it would GET

693
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 2: on abc and it was part of the packs and

694
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: there was something to be Said about you're playing In

695
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: The rose bowl and the weather was cold, everywhere else

696
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 2: and now, you're, like oh it's WARM. In UCLA like

697
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: i could see a quarterback or, wide receivers and they

698
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: do put guys IN. The NFL but i think there

699
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 2: was a Moment When chip, Kelly said i'd rather go

700
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: be a coordinator At A big ten school than the COACH,

701
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: Of ucla and, to me, it's, like oh that's the

702
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: tipping Point because, chip knows, You, Know chip chip's Coached,

703
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: At oregon he's coached AT. The nfl, he's, like, No

704
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: yeah I'M and I. Know chip chip was at my sixtieth.

705
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Speaker 2: Birthday party Chip. Likes la chip and his Wife. Love

706
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: la it's not that he's not.

707
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 3: An outsider so, you know. IT'S funny i said, YEARS

708
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 3: ago i. FELT this i don't feel.

709
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: IT anymore, i said, YEARS ago i Thought the, TEXAS job,

710
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: i said take away the top three quarterbacks IN, the

711
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: nfl whoever, has those and they're in. Their prime those

712
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 2: are the best football Jobs. In America, Kansas, City. Buffalo baltimore,

713
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: you know those are the. Best jobs you HAVE an,

714
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: nfl pension your coaches, don't leave you don't have to.

715
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: Recruit PLAYERS but i always said Fourth.

716
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: Is texas AND and i as we talk about what

717
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: kind of job, IT is i, always Think like texas

718
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: is the best, College Job, Ohio. State georgia then we,

719
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: can Argue Like, notre dame there's an. Academic umbrella it's

720
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 2: kind of, you know it's it's in the middle, of

721
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 2: nowhere it's, you know, it's small, it's private. BAD weather,

722
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 2: i mean my wife wouldn't be overjoyed to Move to South.

723
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: And indiana like all, Things CONSIDERED if i said to

724
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: you top, FIVE jobs i want you to, consider pressure,

725
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: pay conference. Geographic Location. Remember oregon, you know as, an

726
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: outsider if you don't have a lot of players in,

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00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: your state you generally don't have a. Good Program phil knight.

728
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: Changes that california. Changes IT if i said to you top,

729
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: five programs all, things considered where Are.

730
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: You you are going To think i'm joking, With You

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00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: but kentucky football would be the JOB that i would want.

732
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: To Take mark stoops makes close to ten million dollars.

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Speaker 1: A year the goal there is to win. Seven Games Jif,

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Speaker 1: burl kentucky you can be. There forever he's got a

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00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: massive buyout and unlike a lot of these, other guys

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737
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: SEC pressure i can't believe people don't Look At mark

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739
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: you do want to compete for a, national championship the

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00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: answer Is the University. Of georgia georgia has long Been

741
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: THAT and i Remember when saban Was, at alabama and

742
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: everyone would Look at saban and is he going to Go?

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00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:51,680
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00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: like yeah if he were to take, that job it

745
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,120
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00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: At TEXAS he's i don't think you could dominate much

747
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,719
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00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: saying was you need to be paying attention to what Happens.

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00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: With georgia this was Like The Mark rick. Georgia, Era

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00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,200
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00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,000
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Speaker 1: he's never rubbed me the. Wrong WAY we, I mean

850
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: i've gotten along great. WITH him i think that he walked,

851
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: in THERE like i told you twenty, minutes ago and

852
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: there is always in a very very unique connection culturally

853
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: just the Fabric of LOUISIANA and lsu FOOTBALL that i

854
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: don't think you can fully appreciate it unless you've been

855
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: down there for a.

856
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 3: Long time, THAT'S right i. Totally agree and.

857
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: He walked in and, His, ATTITUDE frankly i can't blame

858
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: him for HAVING because I think i would have been

859
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: the same WAY if i, WERE him i would have

860
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: walked in, and, Said Basically I'm. BRIAN kelly i Know what.

861
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: I'M doing i know what the formula to. Win is

862
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: and contrary to what you, people think the formula to

863
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: Win In south bend is the same as it. Is

864
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: here get, good players develop them by into the process

865
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 1: we define. Around here and. Will WIN and i think

866
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: he Heard, about Louisiana this louisiana that to the point

867
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: where he almost wanted to prove. A point AND when

868
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: i tell you He flushed louisiana out of, THAT building

869
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,959
Speaker 1: i mean some people that it wouldn't have mattered whether

870
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: they stayed or went. Desk, receptionist no You're from. Thibodeau

871
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: by so he flushed that Place. Of, louisiana now it

872
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't have mattered if they, won immediately but. They didn't

873
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: and because, they didn't in turn and culturally, down there

874
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: that's been held over. His head Now, on saturdays they're fully,

875
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: behind him, All right in, recruiting weekends they're fully. Behind

876
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: him but there are a lot of people. THAT haven't

877
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: i told you so Attitude Towards Brian kelly yea his,

878
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: own state because he did that, well organizationally, university wise

879
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: they course. CORRECTED collectively i don't really think that decision

880
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: was entirely on. His plate if you Get what i'm,

881
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: saying right, you know You Bring blake baker down there

882
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: as your, defensive coordinator You Bring austin thomas in AS.

883
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: Your gm these are people you cut them open and

884
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: it's purple. And goal and not, only that they're the

885
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: best in, the world some of the best in the

886
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: world at what. They do and it's no COINCIDENCE that

887
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: lsu you all of a sudden right. Feel it you can.

888
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: Sense it you could have sensed it in.

889
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: Their defense their defense looks like big, boy defense, LIKE like,

890
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: i mean that.

891
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 3: Was the thing. Last year they.

892
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: Were atrocious so, TO me i never Worried about, brian's

893
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: OFFENSES like i think he'll always figure. Those out he's rough.

894
00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: On Quarterbacks But i'll SU's defense Is like georgia when

895
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 2: you got the. Right coach it's JUST all. Nfl players

896
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: it's eleven guys who will eventually plan That.

897
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: On, sunday yeah which was shocking that You Have jaden

898
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: daniels there a couple of. Years ago and if you

899
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: TOLD me lsu was gonna Have A heisman trophy caliber quarterback,

900
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: COME through i just Blindly say national championship might tell

901
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: me who the. COACH is, I mean i'm rolling out

902
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: of top twenty five defense if my MOM'S the dc

903
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: there as long as you're keeping in state kids. In

904
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: state so for that to have failed them was. Mind

905
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 1: boggling it's Just like mario not being able to stop

906
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: anything last Year at Miami With. Cam wore. It's crazy

907
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: so it's funny that we've talked about THIS because i

908
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: feel there's a very very closely correlated story that's been

909
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 1: told over the past few years in college Football About

910
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: brian Kelly And. Lincoln, riley ironically the whispers, were, Initially

911
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: oh lincoln may TAKE the. Lsu, job well then he

912
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: winds UP. At usc SO then lsu goes And Gets,

913
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: brian kelly and they both had the wrong defensive coordinators at,

914
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: the outset and then they both corrected and now they're

915
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: both massively. IMPROVED defensively i just feel like the story

916
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: arc is headed for a playoff matchup. ONE day i

917
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: just FEEL LIKE usc lsu. One DAY but i do agree,

918
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: with you AND it's i don't think it's something that

919
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: will really be appreciated by them unless he wins the

920
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: national championship there because everybody else this millennium has who's

921
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: been the head COACH. At, LSU yeah.

922
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 3: I Mean Listen, ed orgeron who's a very. FUNNY guy.

923
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: I love ed does not consider, a schematic, you know

924
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: kingpin of.

925
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: The sport he's. A recruiter i mean FOR years i

926
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: thought he was more of.

927
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: A, position coach like a line coach than even. A

928
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: coordinator broke his heart when he didn't GET the, usc

929
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: job AND then i would argue TODAY that lsu Team

930
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: with burrows the Most talented i've ever. Seen period end.

931
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 2: Of STORY so i mean they had the, hardest schedule won.

932
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 2: Every game So if ed can, do it and that's

933
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: not a knock LIKE he's I mean ed would be

934
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 2: the first To Admit ed ed never schedule a.

935
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 3: Bad. Time ed ed was, a, distracted funny. Great GUY

936
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 3: but I think brian's too good of.

937
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: A coach THE older, I get i tend to just

938
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: look at people AND if i have to hire somebody

939
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: or something at, the volume hire. Smart people they'll figure,

940
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: it out is. My RULE and I think brian.

941
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 3: It took him. A while i mean it just it took.

942
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 3: A while he couldn't get the.

943
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: Accent down BUT eventually i think three years, in, LIKE

944
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: oh i feel like they figured.

945
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,479
Speaker 1: It, Out yeah they're one of The teams i'm looking

946
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: most forward to. Watching HERE the sec is just going

947
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 1: to be a bloodbath by the end of, this thing

948
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: and they're one that you Know the clemson game goes

949
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: the way. IT does i was actually glad this week

950
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: he Publicized The garrett nusmeyer injury because it's kind of

951
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: been whispered about In the south That nuss meyer had

952
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: injury leading up To that week one Game, against clemson

953
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: like an, abdominal thing never. Got publicized and they they

954
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: go and win on, the road and then they were

955
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: very Lackluster in week two against an, inferior opponent And then,

956
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: Week three lagway turns the ball over five TIMES and

957
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: lsu wins twenty, to ten and you can, clearly, tell hey.

958
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: We're undefeated something feels a little, Off, offensively well your quarterback's,

959
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: been hurt that's what's. Been off here's, the, thing though

960
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: there are teams with healthy quarterbacks that are one and

961
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: two right now and you're three. To zero that's the

962
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: surest sign the defense.

963
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 3: Is fixed

964
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: The volume