Speaker 1: Samsung delays the fold. You'll soon be able to return
Speaker 1: Amazon items to all coals, a new app that realtors
Speaker 1: will appreciate, a new way to scan documents. Google Fit
Speaker 1: comes to iOS, Apple Watch gets lost at sea and
Speaker 1: returns months later. Plus your questions. What's going on? I'm
Speaker 1: Rich Demiro. This is Rich on Tech, the podcast where
Speaker 1: I talk about the stuff that I think you should
Speaker 1: know about happening in the tech world. Joining me is
Speaker 1: producer Megan. Producer Megan, what's up? Good?
Speaker 2: I'm good?
Speaker 1: How are you good? There's a lot of stress surrounding
Speaker 1: the podcast this week. Let's be honest. I totally changed
Speaker 1: the way that you did things here. I was like,
Speaker 1: don't do things that way. Did that? Did that make
Speaker 1: you feel stressed out about? No?
Speaker 2: I mean it's just, you know, a lot of moving pieces.
Speaker 2: It's exciting, and so obviously we want to live stream
Speaker 2: eventually and have live questions and all that. So there's
Speaker 2: a lot of moving pieces and.
Speaker 1: We try to figure it out out You figured it out.
Speaker 1: But well, first let's start And I know you have
Speaker 1: a lot of questions for me this week, so we'll
Speaker 1: get to those in a moment. But first, let's start
Speaker 1: with Samsung. You probably heard the news that they are
Speaker 1: postponing the launch of the Galaxy Fold. The Galaxy Fold
Speaker 1: is their smartphone that literally has a screen that folds
Speaker 1: in half. I won't spend a whole bunch of time
Speaker 1: in this story because you've heard it. You've heard it
Speaker 1: over and over. But we do have some more information
Speaker 1: about why people are thinking this device failed. So it
Speaker 1: was supposed to launch on Friday, April twenty sixth. That
Speaker 1: is not happening. If you're listening to this later, clearly
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. If you pre ordered one of these things,
Speaker 1: you did not get it in the mail. So what
Speaker 1: happened was a couple of reviewers got their test units.
Speaker 1: They failed. Samsung quickly pulling the plug on this just
Speaker 1: being like, you know what, we got to go back
Speaker 1: to the drawing board. We're going to figure out what's
Speaker 1: going on. In their official statement, they said they need
Speaker 1: to run further internal tests. They plan to announce the
Speaker 1: release date in the coming weeks. Now, I fix it
Speaker 1: as the company that breaks down everything. Whenever there's a
Speaker 1: new gadget that comes out, they break it down, they
Speaker 1: take it apart. And the reason why they do that
Speaker 1: is so that you can order pieces and repair these
Speaker 1: things yourself. But most people just like to look at
Speaker 1: their blog and see kind of like what's inside all
Speaker 1: their favorite gadgets. So according to I fix It, they
Speaker 1: say that the problems revolve around the phone's hinge, which
Speaker 1: allowed the device to fold back and forth. But they
Speaker 1: say it's very fragile and there's a gap. Now, the
Speaker 1: hinge isn't fragile, but the gap in the hinge makes
Speaker 1: the phone fragile because it can allow specks of dust
Speaker 1: to get inside, which can get behind the screen and
Speaker 1: really just totally screwed up. That's not good, not good
Speaker 1: at all. So that's what's happening with the Samsung Galaxy Fold.
Speaker 1: Will this phone ever launch?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Probably not.
Speaker 1: You think probably not?
Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like they have to rebuild.
Speaker 1: The phone, so yeah, I mean it sounds like it's
Speaker 1: a pretty big problem if there's like, like what can
Speaker 1: you do put like a layer of plastic or something
Speaker 1: around the hinge to make it like r But the
Speaker 1: other thing is, didn't they manufacture all these phones already?
Speaker 1: So what do you do with all those phones?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, it's kind of like what
Speaker 1: happened with the Note seven where they had to like
Speaker 1: trash a whole bunch of phones because they were blowing up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is just a crazy thing to happen
Speaker 1: to a big company. All right, Producer Megan. Enough about that,
Speaker 1: let's get to your first question.
Speaker 2: Okay, So this first question is an email and it
Speaker 2: comes from Kurt John. Subject is movie apps. He said,
Speaker 2: can you do an update on theater apps? Thanks for
Speaker 2: your other tech tips.
Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you. Okay, So Kurt John wants to
Speaker 1: know about theater apps. These are those movie ticketing apps
Speaker 1: that are pretty hot right now. I guess they were
Speaker 1: kind of hot. Now they've kind of cooled down because
Speaker 1: people are like, uh, I got burned by movie pass
Speaker 1: because they keep changing, like the rules and restrictions. But
Speaker 1: the one that started all is movie pass right, and
Speaker 1: movie passes thing is like go see a movie, you
Speaker 1: pay a certain amount of month and you can see
Speaker 1: as many movies as you want. Now I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the movie past website right now now, and look at this.
Speaker 1: There are so many restrictions already on it. Right, so
Speaker 1: it's like a month get started it says, by the way,
Speaker 1: when build annually versus ach or E check, which means
Speaker 1: they want to take the money right out of your checking.
Speaker 1: So already I'm like, uhh, I'm not doing that. Then
Speaker 1: you have number two, which is the one I'm using,
Speaker 1: which is Cinemia. Now we did a segment with Cinemia,
Speaker 1: and I have a subscription through that, and I will
Speaker 1: say it is complicated to use, but it does work.
Speaker 1: So the one I have, you pay a certain amount
Speaker 1: of money every month and you get to see a
Speaker 1: movie in pretty much any format. So I can choose
Speaker 1: you know, regular, three D, Imax, forty whatever, and this one.
Speaker 1: Looking at their website right now, because the plan prices
Speaker 1: change a lot.
Speaker 2: But I canna ask how much is like the current The.
Speaker 1: Current one is right now ten ninety nine a month.
Speaker 1: So for ten ninety nine a month, you get two
Speaker 1: tickets per month in any format, so you can go
Speaker 1: see a three D movie, an Imax or forty. Now
Speaker 1: here's the thing. What I notice with Cinemia is the
Speaker 1: way that you buy your ticket. It's all virtual. They
Speaker 1: give you a virtual credit card. You have to buy
Speaker 1: your ticket through the exact way that they tell you.
Speaker 1: So It used to be you can go on Fandango
Speaker 1: for any movie. Now it's like every theater I choose,
Speaker 1: it's like you have to go to that specific theater's website.
Speaker 1: So I was up in Pedaluma and I saw a
Speaker 1: movie up there, I had to go to the random
Speaker 1: website of that movie theater to buy my ticket. And
Speaker 1: the other thing is once you go to the movie theater,
Speaker 1: so what keeps you from buying movies for your friends?
Speaker 1: You have to go to the theater and check in
Speaker 1: at the movie theater within a certain timeframe. So there's
Speaker 1: a lot of little caveats, but with that said, it's
Speaker 1: pretty amazing that it does work. The other two ways
Speaker 1: you can go are AMC and Cinemak have their own
Speaker 1: sort of movie clubs. Right, so AMC is called Stubs
Speaker 1: a List and Stubs a List lets you see up
Speaker 1: to three movies per week basically with no blackout dates,
Speaker 1: no whatever. But it's kind of expensive. Twenty four dollars
Speaker 1: a month plus tax and.
Speaker 2: See potentially three movies a week.
Speaker 1: You could see a lot of movies. Now you're limited
Speaker 1: to AMC. Let's see movie club by Cinemark gives you
Speaker 1: one two d ticket per month, your unused tickets do rollover,
Speaker 1: which is kind of nice. Then you get twenty percent
Speaker 1: off concessions and waived online fees. So ten dollars a
Speaker 1: month basically gets you one ticket, so that's not bad.
Speaker 1: Movies are expensive, right, So okay, there you go.
Speaker 2: That's the four that was great helpful.
Speaker 1: Again, goes from Movie Pass at the cheapest but probably
Speaker 1: the most restrictions to AMC which is the most expensive
Speaker 1: but kind of the easiest to see movies. So great question.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to Cole's and Amazon. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know about this, but Amazon
Speaker 1: and Cole's did this target program where they used target
Speaker 1: in the probably shot bad use of words, right. They
Speaker 1: did this pilot program where they let Amazon customers return
Speaker 1: stuff to Cole's stores, and they tried it with one
Speaker 1: hundred stores in Los Angeles, Chicago, and Milwaukee. I tried
Speaker 1: this out personally, and it was a you can literally
Speaker 1: get an item delivered to you from Amazon. You don't
Speaker 1: like it, whatever, you just bring it into the cold store.
Speaker 1: They have a separate register and everything where you can
Speaker 1: bring this thing back. You don't even need the packaging,
Speaker 1: So maybe the packaging that it came in, but not
Speaker 1: like the box, right, and you just give it to
Speaker 1: the person. They scan something out of your email and
Speaker 1: you're on your way. They take care of everything. And
Speaker 1: I'm guessing the way they save money is that they
Speaker 1: put let's say twenty people return stuff, they put it
Speaker 1: in one big box Amazon and ship that to Amazon, right.
Speaker 1: Instead of twenty people shipping things to Amazon, which costs money,
Speaker 1: this is much cheaper to do things in bulk. So
Speaker 1: the news is that they're expanding this program to all
Speaker 1: Calls locations, So it's gonna roll out. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: happen overnight. But the reality is, if this is an
Speaker 1: option to you, because a lot of times I've noticed
Speaker 1: on Amazon when you're returning stuff, they have really clamped
Speaker 1: down on kind of your options for free returns. Like
Speaker 1: it used to be they would just come to your
Speaker 1: house and pick up anything, not so much anymore. Now
Speaker 1: they want to know the reason why you're returning it,
Speaker 1: and depending on that reason, it will they will give
Speaker 1: you kind of a level of where you can return
Speaker 1: stuff and how much it costs. But I love the
Speaker 1: idea of this expanding to all stores. If it's an
Speaker 1: option for the next time you need to return something
Speaker 1: to Amazon. Definitely try it out, all right, Megan? Pred
Speaker 1: you sure? Meghan? Do we have something else?
Speaker 2: Yes? We have another question from Roland. He wrote on
Speaker 2: your Facebook. He asked, Rich, I do not know if
Speaker 2: you can help me with this, but I'm desperate.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: Facebook publicizes your birthday, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 2: I wrote them a letter stating that I did not
Speaker 2: want my birthday publicized, but they did it anyway. Is
Speaker 2: there anything else I can do to prevent my birthday
Speaker 2: from being publicized on Facebook?
Speaker 1: I don't put my birthday on Facebook. I know because
Speaker 1: Megan's checked many times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really want to know his age.
Speaker 1: You're always on the hunt for my data birth, so
Speaker 1: I don't have it on there. And all I did
Speaker 1: was go to my profile okay, and then you go
Speaker 1: to about, and then you go contact and basic info okay,
Speaker 1: and then near your data birth there's a little edit
Speaker 1: button that looks like a pencil and you just press
Speaker 1: that and there's like only me. I forget what the
Speaker 1: options are, but it's like everyone only me, and like
Speaker 1: maybe close friends or something, and all you do is
Speaker 1: put only me. Just switch all your data birth info
Speaker 1: to that and that's it. Now. The downside to this
Speaker 1: is are you on Facebook at all? Yes, you are.
Speaker 2: I know what you're gonna say.
Speaker 1: What You're not.
Speaker 2: Gonna get happy birthday messages and that's so sad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what I'm gonna say. Every year, my
Speaker 1: birthday comes and goes and nobody wishes me a happy birthday,
Speaker 1: and so I do get a couple No, nobody does
Speaker 1: because I don't put it out there. So a couple
Speaker 1: of the dedicated friends will text me because they know
Speaker 1: my birthday. But all the I call them klingons on
Speaker 1: Facebook that just look for the birthday wishes they don't know,
Speaker 1: so it's like it just doesn't happen. Now, I've actually
Speaker 1: tweaked this in years, and maybe I'm really evil for
Speaker 1: doing this, but I've tweaked it, and like some years
Speaker 1: I'll turn it on and it's like boom, a million
Speaker 1: Facebook wishes for a happy birthday. Other years nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's how you do it.
Speaker 2: But I have it. So you see my birthday and
Speaker 2: then you just don't see the year, so no one
Speaker 2: knows my age.
Speaker 1: Not that Megan. It's pretty simple. You don't hide it
Speaker 1: you'll hide it as you get older. That's what I
Speaker 1: did for at some point I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm twenty something, you know tech reporter. Now it's like, nope,
Speaker 1: I'll just leave that. Leave some things to the imagination.
Speaker 1: A new feature from Zillo lets you create three D
Speaker 1: home tours for free. When you're actually shopping for a house,
Speaker 1: going to see the house, you will know in less
Speaker 1: than five seconds if it's a fit for you, right,
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I wish they just showed that
Speaker 1: on the pictures. A lot of times they hide stuff.
Speaker 1: While Zillo is giving folks a new way to create
Speaker 1: three D home tours using just an iPhone, which is
Speaker 1: really cool because it's called the three D Zillo three
Speaker 1: D Home. It's an AI powered mobile platform for iOS
Speaker 1: devices that allows anyone to create three hundred or capture
Speaker 1: three three hundred and sixty degree panoramic photos of a
Speaker 1: house and create a three D tour, which is really
Speaker 1: cool because if you can put a three D tour
Speaker 1: on your listing, more people see it, more people are
Speaker 1: exposed to it, more people are interested in it, and yes,
Speaker 1: it'll help people decide quicker whether they want are truly
Speaker 1: interested in your house. But you kind of want to
Speaker 1: do that anyway. You don't want a million people come
Speaker 1: in to your house that don't really care. Right. So
Speaker 1: the interesting thing about this is that it's free. And
Speaker 1: if you're a real estate agent or you've sold a house,
Speaker 1: you know that this has been going on forever. People
Speaker 1: have made three D tours, but it was expensive. It
Speaker 1: took expensive equipment, elaborate setups, and a lot of time.
Speaker 1: Zillo says, this is free and it only takes an
Speaker 1: iPhone and it probably takes fifteen to twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: And in their research they found when they did this
Speaker 1: as a test, they reported agents reported that listings with
Speaker 1: three D tours attracted more potential buyers. So I like
Speaker 1: that idea.
Speaker 2: That is cool. Okay, So I have a tweet for you, Rich.
Speaker 2: It's from at dawn Y tech guy. It's not a question,
Speaker 2: it's more of like a statement, and he just says, Hi, Rich,
Speaker 2: I've been wanting to remap my Samsung Galaxy S nine.
Speaker 2: Going into Bixby Settings, then select Bixby key. I selected
Speaker 2: double press to open Bixby and single press to open
Speaker 2: an app. Yes, I love push bullet. So this is
Speaker 2: like a new feature, I guess, and he is a fan.
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on here, Don, Yeah, so there's
Speaker 1: a lot. Let's break it down. But okay, so what
Speaker 1: you're referring to is on the Samsung devices, and I
Speaker 1: forget when this started, but they put a dedicated button
Speaker 1: on there that when you press it, it's like there's
Speaker 1: you know, most phones have a volume rocker and then
Speaker 1: a power button, right, and maybe a home button on
Speaker 1: the iPhones. Well, on the Samsung devices, they have an
Speaker 1: extra button that is literally just dedicated to Bixby, and
Speaker 1: there was no way to really disable that up until now.
Speaker 1: So now in the apps in your Bixby. So if
Speaker 1: you want to do what Don did he going, you
Speaker 1: activate Bixby the first time you go into settings, and
Speaker 1: there's a new option as long as your software is updated,
Speaker 1: that allows you to choose what happens when you press
Speaker 1: that Bixby key. You can't really disable it, but you
Speaker 1: can kind of change what it does. All right, good question.
Speaker 1: By the way, Don, according to his profile on Twitter,
Speaker 1: is from New Jersey. So wo shout out to Don
Speaker 1: in New Jersey.
Speaker 2: Shout out in New Jersey.
Speaker 1: So I found this cool app? That just came out today,
Speaker 1: I think, but it's from Zoho Zho and I'm always,
Speaker 1: I don't know why, I'm fascinating with the idea of
Speaker 1: document scanners on my phone. So iPhone has a PDF
Speaker 1: scanner built in sodas Android. I use one called Scannabowl,
Speaker 1: but I'm always looking for something new and better and
Speaker 1: this one seems really good. So it's called Zoho doc Scanner.
Speaker 1: So doc Scanner. I tried it this morning. It's super simple.
Speaker 1: You basically open up the app, it recognizes the paper
Speaker 1: that you have it pointed at, and it immediately starts scanning.
Speaker 1: So here, Megan, I'll show you this. I've got this paper.
Speaker 1: So watch how good this is? Got it right there? Boom, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's try it. Let's see. You got to get the edges.
Speaker 1: Look at that. So there you go. Now I have
Speaker 1: a great shot of that. And the other thing you
Speaker 1: can do is you can edit, so you can crop it.
Speaker 1: Whatever you can mark up so you can draw on it.
Speaker 1: So if I want to draw like circle something, I
Speaker 1: can do that. Oh that's really cool. And you can
Speaker 1: do all this again.
Speaker 2: Sign it.
Speaker 1: I can sign it. Now. Here's where it gets a
Speaker 1: little tricky. So here's my little rich On Tech tip.
Speaker 1: If you want to sign it, they have a little
Speaker 1: thing that's like more and add signature right, so watch
Speaker 1: what happens. Boom there comes the upsell. Right. So they
Speaker 1: want you to pay a dollar forty nine a month
Speaker 1: or three dollars a month to do all the like
Speaker 1: fancy things on this app. Here's my rich On Tech tip.
Speaker 1: Instead of doing the signature, all you got to do
Speaker 1: is zoom in to wherever you want to sign. Let's
Speaker 1: say this is the signature line. Go mark up first,
Speaker 1: then zoom in to where you want to sign, right,
Speaker 1: and now I can sign the paper. Son need to
Speaker 1: use their fancy thing. You just sign with your finger.
Speaker 1: It's not as like you know, yeah, robust is what
Speaker 1: they do. Anyway, it's a great little app. It saves
Speaker 1: us a PDF. Let me just make sure you can
Speaker 1: actually export it without paying. But if I go share
Speaker 1: and I go to save to files, yep, I can
Speaker 1: share it as a JPEG or a PDF. So great
Speaker 1: little app. Again, it's called Zoho Doc Scanner.
Speaker 2: Okay, so next question actually has to do with your book.
Speaker 2: This question is from Jacqueline zero two, that's her name
Speaker 2: on Instagram. She said, Hi, I would like to purchase
Speaker 2: your book, but it's telling me on a Kindle not
Speaker 2: an iPad. Do you know if that's correct? Thinks in advance.
Speaker 1: So she's saying that she's trying to read it on
Speaker 1: her iPad, but it's telling her she can't. Okay. So
Speaker 1: here's what's happening. And this is kind of like it's
Speaker 1: a little window into the war between Apple and basically
Speaker 1: Apple and everyone Apple in the world. So the way
Speaker 1: Apple sees it, anything that you do through their through
Speaker 1: an app on the iPhone or the iPad, they should
Speaker 1: get a thirty percent cut of that of that purchase basically.
Speaker 1: So with the Kindle app on iPad, if you browse
Speaker 1: through it, you'll notice quickly like, wait, why can't I
Speaker 1: buy any books on here? And it's really frustrating and
Speaker 1: it confuses a lot of people. I learned this when
Speaker 1: I put my book out the first time as a
Speaker 1: digital book. People are like, oh, it's not available for iPad.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, it is, Like, just download the Kindle
Speaker 1: app and it's in there. But what people don't realize
Speaker 1: is that Apple disables the purchasing of any digital content
Speaker 1: through their app so you can't purchase anything digitally through
Speaker 1: the Amazon app because they will have to give a
Speaker 1: cut of that to Apple according to Apple's rules. So
Speaker 1: what they do is they just disable it all together.
Speaker 1: So if you go and buy the book on the
Speaker 1: website or even the web browser on the iPad, you
Speaker 1: can buy the book and then if you open up
Speaker 1: your Kindle app, it will be in there. So that
Speaker 1: it's a really weird thing. But and it confused a
Speaker 1: lot of people myself because I was like wondering why
Speaker 1: when I first started selling my book, people were like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I can't buy it on the iPhone or the iPad,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's not true. That's just not like.
Speaker 1: It's basically any book that you buy through Amazon that's
Speaker 1: a Kindle book. You can download the free Kindle app
Speaker 1: to your iPad and read the book through your iPad.
Speaker 1: So got it?
Speaker 2: That makes sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, speaking of Amazon, now, I'm going to
Speaker 1: segue into Amazon Key for a Garage is now available.
Speaker 1: So if you're not familiar with this program, this allows
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime members to get deliveries in their garage using
Speaker 1: this key Smart Garage kit. So in addition to them
Speaker 1: opening your front door, with Amazon Key and putting a
Speaker 1: package inside, or opening the trunk of your car and
Speaker 1: putting a package in there. You can now choose in
Speaker 1: garage delivery. So to make this possible, you do have
Speaker 1: to have some technology set up. You do have to
Speaker 1: have a Chamberlain, my Queue connected garage door opener, so
Speaker 1: I don't have this. I'm thinking of getting it because
Speaker 1: I kind of want this feature. So when Amazon announced
Speaker 1: that they would open up your front door if you
Speaker 1: have a special electronic key on your front or lock
Speaker 1: on your front door, people went crazy, like, no way
Speaker 1: Amazon opened the front door to my house. So they figured, okay, well, garage,
Speaker 1: maybe you do need to get one of these garage
Speaker 1: door openers. So it's either my Queue Connected Chamberlain or
Speaker 1: lift Master Wi Fi garage door opener. So they will
Speaker 1: sell you this equipment. By the way, the garage hub
Speaker 1: is fifty bucks, which I don't think includes the opener,
Speaker 1: by the way, and you can also get up I'm
Speaker 1: very confused by this, but basically you need to install
Speaker 1: something that lets them open your garage to cret your
Speaker 1: package in there. Do you have another question?
Speaker 2: I do. The next question is from Larry. Subject is
Speaker 2: email hackers, So he asks, Hey, Rich, I enjoy your
Speaker 2: segments on Ketla. I recently received a few emails that
Speaker 2: show that they are from me to me. I didn't
Speaker 2: open them, but did a print preview to see what
Speaker 2: it was about. And they said that they had hacked
Speaker 2: into my account and that they wanted a bitcoin ransom
Speaker 2: or otherwise they would show the porn sites that they
Speaker 2: claimed I looked at. First of all, I never looked
Speaker 2: at any Oh.
Speaker 1: Okay, glad, glad, Larry's making that clear.
Speaker 2: Secondly, a friend of mine said that I should just
Speaker 2: ignore these emails.
Speaker 1: What do you think your friend is? Right, Larry? So
Speaker 1: a couple things. Number One, this is a scam that's
Speaker 1: been going around, and I'm glad that you kind of
Speaker 1: like understood that they wanted like a bitcoin ransom. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like, come on, really like. So what they're doing
Speaker 1: is they're sending like millions and millions of emails to folks,
Speaker 1: and this is kind of phishing, so they're trying to
Speaker 1: it's actually not even phishing because they're trying to get
Speaker 1: you to send money to them. So what they're doing
Speaker 1: is they're preying on your vulnerability here. Now, these emails.
Speaker 1: We did a segment on this on Katla. Actually, these
Speaker 1: emails are usually personalized for you, so they usually have
Speaker 1: like your home address in them, or they have some
Speaker 1: sort of personal information like maybe even a password that
Speaker 1: you've used in the past. So what they're doing is
Speaker 1: they're going through these dumps of passwords and email addresses
Speaker 1: that are available openly online that have been hacked, and
Speaker 1: so they're saying like, Okay, we know your email address,
Speaker 1: we know that this one of your passwords. We also
Speaker 1: know what you're doing online, so we're gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take action unless you send us some cash.
Speaker 1: And the reality is they're just praying on the fact
Speaker 1: that you're like, oh, shoot, if they have my email
Speaker 1: address and that is one of my passwords that I've
Speaker 1: been using, what else do they have? And so that's
Speaker 1: when you get kind of scared into sending them money.
Speaker 1: But the reality is they don't have anything, and they're
Speaker 1: just trying to like pray upon you. So ignore these.
Speaker 2: And also if they include like a link in the email,
Speaker 2: don't click.
Speaker 1: On the ever click the link link. The other thing
Speaker 1: that you can do is and I do this on
Speaker 1: my email, I actually have images turned off by default
Speaker 1: because a lot of the times these companies, these hackers,
Speaker 1: if they're really smart, they will track the opens on
Speaker 1: these emails, so there'll be a little tiny tracking pixel
Speaker 1: in there, and they'll know, Larry, that you open the email.
Speaker 1: So now they know that you looked at it, and
Speaker 1: they're kind of like, all right, now let's really prey
Speaker 1: upon him a little bit more and be like, we
Speaker 1: know that you read our email, and so we want
Speaker 1: to you know, why aren't you responding to us?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he did say I did didn't open the emails.
Speaker 2: I did a print preview. So is that a thing?
Speaker 1: I guess. I don't know what email program he's using.
Speaker 1: Maybe he can do a print I don't know, but
Speaker 1: that's it. That's smart. So he didn't open it, so
Speaker 1: that's always smart. That's the other thing is I always recommend,
Speaker 1: if you think of emails kind of like spamy, just
Speaker 1: lead it without even opening it. But what I do
Speaker 1: is I actually have turned off my images, so I have.
Speaker 1: You can go into your settings on your email and
Speaker 1: look for the option that says images, and it says
Speaker 1: always display external images or ask before displaying external images,
Speaker 1: And so I have those off, so you basically can't
Speaker 1: track when I open an email. Okay, do you have
Speaker 1: another question?
Speaker 2: I actually I do. This one is about roaming charges
Speaker 2: and it's from Cindy W. She asks, Hello, Rich, I
Speaker 2: recently went on a cruise to the Panama Canal. My
Speaker 2: husband received a few phone calls, but he did not
Speaker 2: answer them on this trip. However, upon returning, my phone
Speaker 2: bill showed we were charged through dollars for each call.
Speaker 2: Can you tell me why this happened and can we
Speaker 2: dispute it?
Speaker 1: Okay, so hmm interesting. Uh, I think you can dispute
Speaker 1: it for sure. I don't know how to happen. I
Speaker 1: think what's happening here is number one, your phone was
Speaker 1: on roaming. So if you have an iPhone, if you
Speaker 1: don't want this to happen, and believe me, this happened
Speaker 1: to me one time when I went to China, I
Speaker 1: got like a nine hundred dollars bill from AT and
Speaker 1: T because I forgot to turn roaming off. And I'm
Speaker 1: not kidding. All I uploaded I think it was like
Speaker 1: twenty five megabytes. It was really tiny, but it was
Speaker 1: a huge amount of money. And so I called AT
Speaker 1: and T and they finally did work with me to
Speaker 1: get the charges reversed. They they ended up. The way
Speaker 1: they got around it is they backdated my account with
Speaker 1: some sort of like minute pass. So I bought like
Speaker 1: twenty five megabytes for like twenty dollars or something ridiculous,
Speaker 1: and they backdated it to before the trip, and that's
Speaker 1: how I got around it.
Speaker 2: So because it was through cellular, yes.
Speaker 1: Not Wi Fi, got it. So I was actually uploading
Speaker 1: stuff to Dropbox and I didn't realize that all these
Speaker 1: pictures that I uploaded were like going through cellular and
Speaker 1: not Wi Fi, and so I quickly realized my mistake.
Speaker 1: I turned my phone off, but it was not fast enough,
Speaker 1: and so I did get home and you get your bill,
Speaker 1: by the way, like two months later the roaming charges.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's gotten better now, but usually roaming charges show
Speaker 1: up like a month or two after your cycle, so
Speaker 1: it's kind of funny. I'm like looking at this, I'm like, ooh,
Speaker 1: I gotta look into that. So anyway, on your iPhone,
Speaker 1: if you go into cellular, there is an option where
Speaker 1: it says Cellular Data options, I have roaming turned off
Speaker 1: just in case I go somewhere that it's on it'll
Speaker 1: won't flip through that. So that's the number one thing
Speaker 1: you can do. Now, what you have to do is
Speaker 1: you have to call eighteen tier or whoever your provider
Speaker 1: is and just totally play dumb, be like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't have my phone on like I didn't, and they know.
Speaker 1: They're like, we're not stupid. They hear these calls every day.
Speaker 1: But what you have to do is tell them I
Speaker 1: didn't answer the calls. So I get what's happening is
Speaker 1: just to make your phone ring. It probably takes some
Speaker 1: network connectivity to that random network in Panama that you
Speaker 1: were using, and they will argue that because those two
Speaker 1: networks had to talk, there was a connection made and
Speaker 1: they don't care if you answer your phone or not,
Speaker 1: it still charges it as a call. Yeah, right, so
Speaker 1: it's probably that one minute of time that you get
Speaker 1: is like included in the ring whatever. Anyway, this is
Speaker 1: something that you can totally dispute. Cindy, Definitely call up
Speaker 1: your service brighter, dispute it to all hell. Do not
Speaker 1: let this one go.
Speaker 2: Good luck, Cindy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you did not use your phone, and if
Speaker 1: you're not lying to me right, like I assume you're
Speaker 1: not lying, like, I assume you didn't use your phone
Speaker 1: if it just rang, Like, come on, an average person
Speaker 1: would think that, like your phone could ring.
Speaker 2: Without being charged, right, totally.
Speaker 1: Google Fit is now on iOS, so if you're familiar
Speaker 1: with google Fit, it's kind of like their answer to
Speaker 1: a fitness app. And what they've done is they revamped
Speaker 1: it a couple months ago. They have two simple activity goals,
Speaker 1: move minutes and heart points. So basically, the more you move,
Speaker 1: the more move minutes you earn, and the more intense
Speaker 1: that movement is, the more heart points you earn. So
Speaker 1: you don't have an Apple Watch, but I kind of
Speaker 1: live and die by my minutes on here. So I've
Speaker 1: got move I guess it's move I don't know move
Speaker 1: points on here. I guess it's like calories or something.
Speaker 1: And then I have my move minutes. So just because
Speaker 1: you're moving, you'll get your move calories, but you may
Speaker 1: not earn your move minutes. So like yesterday, I took
Speaker 1: a hike and I earn like fifty eight move minutes
Speaker 1: because guess what, when you're walking, it's strenuous on a hike,
Speaker 1: so you actually earn like good minutes, right, But you
Speaker 1: can walk around all day and not earn any minutes
Speaker 1: because it's not very strenuous just to walk. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of like the.
Speaker 2: De You know how I love my walks.
Speaker 1: You do love your walk You Megan is a ninety
Speaker 1: year old and a twenty year old's body. It's true,
Speaker 1: so it comes out that she walks a lot.
Speaker 2: I go on hour long walks, Good Walk podcasts while
Speaker 2: I do it, so multitasking.
Speaker 1: That walk around the block, We'll cure everything. Yep. So
Speaker 1: you probably would not earn a lot of minutes on
Speaker 1: those walks. Now, sometimes you do, depends on like the
Speaker 1: strenuous nature of the walk, and sometimes the Apple Watch
Speaker 1: will tell you to be like, hey, a forty five
Speaker 1: minute walk, We'll give you all your man that's like
Speaker 1: you need to fill for the rest of the day.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so the cool thing about Google Fit on iOS.
Speaker 1: You might be thinking, well, why do I need that.
Speaker 1: I already have an Apple Watch. I've got Apple Health.
Speaker 1: It's cool because it works with various things. Anything that
Speaker 1: talks to Apple Health will help you get your activity
Speaker 1: move points and your heart minutes, so or sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: move minutes and heart points. So if you want a
Speaker 1: simpler way to kind of slice and dice your activity.
Speaker 1: It's an easy way. So, for instance, for me today
Speaker 1: on my Apple Watch, I have three hundred and twelve
Speaker 1: calories that I've burned but one minute of movement. Like,
Speaker 1: so I haven't done much today, right, I've just got
Speaker 1: work now. On the iOS Google fit app, it translates
Speaker 1: that into fifty four movementutes out of sixty, which I
Speaker 1: don't know how that's that must be for yesterday. Hold on,
Speaker 1: that can't be for today. There's no way.
Speaker 2: Fifty four out of sixty.
Speaker 1: There's no way that's for today. How is that possible? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't Okay, I have zero Okay, I have zero
Speaker 1: heart points, and this says I have six hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty seven calories burned.
Speaker 2: So they're different, they're very different.
Speaker 1: But it sounds like the move minutes are actually just
Speaker 1: moving like minutes that you're kind of like moving. But
Speaker 1: I don't have any heart points, which is the tough
Speaker 1: thing to get. So kind of they're both on the
Speaker 1: same level with the heart points, and you have a
Speaker 1: stack there you can only choose one more.
Speaker 2: No, I was like thinking, which one do I want
Speaker 2: to ask? But I think that this one is probably
Speaker 2: going to help more people. This is from Marianna B.
Speaker 2: She says, hello, rich, My husband and I currently have
Speaker 2: YouTube TV, but heard it's going up to fifty dollars.
Speaker 2: I was just curious what your thoughts are on all
Speaker 2: these streaming services versus cable. We have Netflix, Amazon Prime
Speaker 2: and use the antenna to get KEYTLA. Seems like it
Speaker 2: would be cheaper to just have cable again, since we
Speaker 2: pay fifty five dollars for the Internet. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: This is I feel like we get this question every week, right,
Speaker 1: isn't this like a no? I love it because it's
Speaker 1: it's I get so many of these questions and it's
Speaker 1: a really tough one. But I'll boil it down to
Speaker 1: a couple things. Number One, Yes, you can probably at
Speaker 1: this point get cable, and you're gonna get more for
Speaker 1: your money at this point, like you're paying fifty five
Speaker 1: dollars for Internet, which, by the way, you must be
Speaker 1: on a promotional plan because a standard for Spectrum is
Speaker 1: now sixty five. And what Spectrum is doing slowly but
Speaker 1: surely they are getting everyone off these promotional plans and
Speaker 1: they are not giving them another one. So like me,
Speaker 1: I pay sixty five. I was paying forty five, and
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna call them to pay the fifty
Speaker 1: five because it's like such a pain to get through
Speaker 1: to someone that it's like, all right, final pay. So
Speaker 1: that's a twenty dollars spread every month. That's like twenty
Speaker 1: more dollars I could be spending on like a you know,
Speaker 1: a streaming plan. So anyway to answer your question, yes,
Speaker 1: you can get more with cable. Here's why I hate cable. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's not because they don't offer good deals. They do.
Speaker 1: I get these things to my house every week. I
Speaker 1: can pay ninety dollars for Spectrum cable and Spectrum Internet,
Speaker 1: which is way cheaper than one paying for streaming. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I don't want the cable box. I
Speaker 1: don't want the hassle of cable. I don't want a
Speaker 1: cable box in any way, shape or form in my
Speaker 1: house because the on screen display is terrible, the software
Speaker 1: is terrible. The customer service is probably fine, but I
Speaker 1: don't want to deal with you. I want to be
Speaker 1: able to sign up for services and delete services at will. Right,
Speaker 1: So that's why I personally don't want cable. So if
Speaker 1: you want to go to the cable route and you're
Speaker 1: fine with the crappy DVR they give you and the
Speaker 1: crappy software by all means, go for it. It is
Speaker 1: an easier process. It is an easier system overall, because
Speaker 1: guess what, you turn on your TV. You go to
Speaker 1: your cable box, you press the letter or the number
Speaker 1: of the channel you want to watch. It's simple. You
Speaker 1: get all the things you don't have to deal with
Speaker 1: an antenna. It is easier. But to me, it's just
Speaker 1: not the way of the future, you know. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of like my thought on that. I know, that's
Speaker 1: kind of like a rich's rant. But my flip side
Speaker 1: of all that is, yes, these services, like all all
Speaker 1: these streaming services are getting complicated to keep track of
Speaker 1: the channels keep changing, the prices keep going up. So
Speaker 1: what I recommend is, you know, figure out what you want,
Speaker 1: what do you want out of life when it comes
Speaker 1: to your your cable So if you only need KTLA,
Speaker 1: you've already got the antennas, you're fine there. Maybe you
Speaker 1: don't need a streaming service like YouTube TV or any
Speaker 1: of these other ones. Maybe you can subside on Netflix
Speaker 1: and Amazon Prime plus the antenna, Like, why do you
Speaker 1: need all the other stuff? Now? If you're telling me Rich,
Speaker 1: I watch Bravo and I want to watch what is it?
Speaker 1: Real Housewives? Is that the big show? So that means
Speaker 1: that you need a cable service, right, because that's not
Speaker 1: available anyway else as far as I know, Okay, it's
Speaker 1: on Hulu, so day and day or what day and date?
Speaker 1: Like like okay, what days on and when? Do I get?
Speaker 2: Okay, good point, Yeah, it's it's not the current season.
Speaker 2: They don't have the currencyason never want to watch the.
Speaker 1: Current season, right. So again it's like all these little
Speaker 1: like mind land mind. It's very tough. So I would
Speaker 1: go to untangled dot TV type in the shows or
Speaker 1: the programming or the channels that you like to watch,
Speaker 1: it will spit out the streaming services that are best
Speaker 1: for you. So for me, I always give the example,
Speaker 1: I only watch two channels, Nick Junior. I don't watch these,
Speaker 1: but Nick Junior and Disney Junior are the two channels
Speaker 1: that I need for my streaming service, and a lot
Speaker 1: of them don't offer both of those, and so I
Speaker 1: have direct TV now. I pay fifty dollars a month
Speaker 1: for basically those two channels, and so my wife and
Speaker 1: I always have this discussion of how can we cancel
Speaker 1: direct TV now to reclaim that fifty bucks, and we
Speaker 1: can't because we need those two channels. So that's just
Speaker 1: the way it is.
Speaker 2: But everything's gonna change when Disney comes out with their
Speaker 2: streaming service.
Speaker 1: Yes it is, and it's gonna be a game taker
Speaker 1: for parents. It's gonna be basically like in my case,
Speaker 1: I will say I will pay the six ninety nine
Speaker 1: a month for Disney Plus and I will go without Nick, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that'll be fine because now I'm saving fifty dollars
Speaker 1: minus seven dollars is what.
Speaker 2: Fifty dollars minus seven is forty three dollars.
Speaker 1: I'll be saving forty three dollars a month. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean we should I do with my extra cash?
Speaker 2: Megan, go to Dell Taco? All right.
Speaker 1: Finally, this is a story we did on KTLA. You
Speaker 1: saw it here first, and it is it has been
Speaker 1: seen around the world. Now, this is an Apple watch
Speaker 1: that was lost at sea. So I'll tell you the story.
Speaker 1: A guy named Robert Bainter was is a is a
Speaker 1: body surfer in Huntington Beach. He loves his Apple watch.
Speaker 1: He rode a big wave and next thing you know,
Speaker 1: he looked at his wrist and it was gone. So
Speaker 1: he spent an hour looking for his watch. He didn't
Speaker 1: find it, and he basically turned on Find my iPhone.
Speaker 1: He put his watch in lost mode, which displays a
Speaker 1: little message on your watch that says like, hey, if
Speaker 1: you find this, can you call me now. A lot
Speaker 1: of people question that part of the story. They're like,
Speaker 1: hold on, how did his watch get into find my
Speaker 1: iPhone or lost mode? When Apple Watch has to be
Speaker 1: on cellular or Wi Fi. So clearly he was either
Speaker 1: on a cellular connection. I didn't know if he had
Speaker 1: that on his watch, or he was connected to some
Speaker 1: sort of Wi Fi networ so on my Apple Watch,
Speaker 1: I'm connected to like Spectrum Wi Fi. Because my phone
Speaker 1: is connected, it kind of passes that over. So there
Speaker 1: is a chance that he was on like Spectrum WiFi
Speaker 1: and that's how it was able to put that lock
Speaker 1: message on his device. I know more than you need
Speaker 1: to know. Anyway, long story short, he gave up hope.
Speaker 1: Six months later, he gets a phone call and this
Speaker 1: guy says, Hey, are you Rob Bainter. I think you
Speaker 1: lost an Apple Watch. If you can describe this watch,
Speaker 1: I will give it back to you. Sure enough, it's
Speaker 1: his watch. He described it. He couldn't believe it. The
Speaker 1: thing still worked.
Speaker 2: This is such a funny story. I was obsessed with
Speaker 2: it when you had told me, okay, like can you
Speaker 2: go and like cover this? I got really into it
Speaker 2: because it really just blows my mind. I don't have
Speaker 2: an Apple Watch, so of course now I want to
Speaker 2: get an Apple Watch because I think they're like indestructible.
Speaker 2: Robert and his wife were so lovely and they were
Speaker 2: they're huge KTLA fans, so.
Speaker 1: They weren't lying because a lot of people are questioning
Speaker 1: kind of like the whole story.
Speaker 2: Oh no, they were not. I mean I didn't detect
Speaker 2: any like lives going on. This was very legit. Like
Speaker 2: we literally walked right down to the water right where
Speaker 2: he was bodysurfing, and he was like, this is like
Speaker 2: the spot where I'm always body surfing. He had had
Speaker 2: the Apple Watch for two years.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, you've got more details.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have some.
Speaker 1: I have described the haze, so I'm assuming that's from
Speaker 1: the sand that was like hitting up against it.
Speaker 2: The horr what's weird is so Basically, like there's a
Speaker 2: pier in hunting Huntington Beach right by where he was
Speaker 2: bodysurfing that day, and if the if the apple Watch
Speaker 2: had gone through the pier, it probably would have like
Speaker 2: caught up yeah, from like the rocks and like everything
Speaker 2: that's under the pier. So basically the apple Watch had
Speaker 2: to have like been sucked out into the ocean and
Speaker 2: then past the pier and then like you know, six
Speaker 2: months pass, maybe a fish picked it up and like
Speaker 2: finding nemo like brings it up north of the pier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they win for a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really funny.
Speaker 1: And then it's three years north and some guy found it, right.
Speaker 2: And the guy that found it he he had thought
Speaker 2: that it had happened recently because he thought, oh, no, idea,
Speaker 2: maybe this was yeah, this was today. So in the
Speaker 2: phone call that he left for Robert, he's like, hey, man, like,
Speaker 2: if you lost this recently, like I have your Apple Watch.
Speaker 2: But it had been six months so and by that
Speaker 2: point Robert had already gotten a new Apple Watch kind
Speaker 2: of moved on with his life, and then you know,
Speaker 2: it turned back up.
Speaker 1: So one thing I just realized that we forgot to
Speaker 1: do with this story is interview the guy that found it. Yes,
Speaker 1: so he's like the mystery man. I think we need
Speaker 1: to follow up. Yeah, I know, but I love the
Speaker 1: idea that he found it and he was honest enough
Speaker 1: to return it. But the thing is like the watch
Speaker 1: is pretty useless without like if he didn't return it,
Speaker 1: it's like he couldn't reactivate it because all the Apple
Speaker 1: products have like activation lock, so if you don't log
Speaker 1: in with the iCloud that it was activated on, you
Speaker 1: can't do anything with it anyway. So yeah, anyway, great story.
Speaker 1: It turned up in a whole bunch of places and
Speaker 1: pr Yahoo scenet. This story was basically like all over
Speaker 1: the world. So and I think it's going to keep
Speaker 1: going because it's like people are just still hearing about it, just.
Speaker 2: Like that Apple Watch. It's like fighting Emo. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: really is.
Speaker 1: I would love to have like a little video camera
Speaker 1: view of like what that Apple Watch went through for
Speaker 1: six months, because what I think happened is realistically, it
Speaker 1: was slashing around the ocean for only a little bit
Speaker 1: of time and then it washed up on shore pretty quickly,
Speaker 1: and then it just was evidence to someone like you know,
Speaker 1: probably was under the sand or something like, I don't
Speaker 1: think it was sloshing around the ocean for six months.
Speaker 2: I think it was under the sand kind of something like.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was like slashing around. That seems
Speaker 1: kind of crazy, but anyway, it still worked and that
Speaker 1: was a cool thing. So Rob Bainter and his wife,
Speaker 1: by the way, they emailed only me, right, didn't they
Speaker 1: say that?
Speaker 2: They?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: They they So. Robert's wife she's a huge fan of
Speaker 2: Rich and she was like, I, you know, listen to
Speaker 2: every tech report when this happened, and like, you know,
Speaker 2: when we found the watch, she immediately thought like I'm
Speaker 2: going to reach out to Rich, which she did obviously.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I get a lot of emails, by the way,
Speaker 1: and I took one read of the first line and
Speaker 1: I don't have her email in front of me, but
Speaker 1: it was literally like my husband lost his Apple watch
Speaker 1: at scene. It returned six months later, and I was like, yeah, done.
Speaker 1: I email her right back, said when can we shoot this? Yeah.
Speaker 2: Immediately immediately she mentioned that too. She was like he
Speaker 2: responded within like two minutes.
Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, there are some I know.
Speaker 1: I know that sometimes if you email me you may
Speaker 1: get frustrated because I don't email you back, but I
Speaker 1: do have a priority list in my head of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can tell when there's urgency and an email, and
Speaker 1: I know when to write back and I know when. Also,
Speaker 1: some emails I get do not have that same urgency,
Speaker 1: and I can take a little bit of time because,
Speaker 1: believe me, I get a lot of emails, especially with
Speaker 1: this podcast. Now hello at richon tech dot tv is
Speaker 1: the email address if you want to get to your
Speaker 1: question in But believe me, we get a lot of them,
Speaker 1: and I do reply to most, but sometimes it can
Speaker 1: take a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes he doesn't respond to me, So don't be offended.
Speaker 1: That's going to do it for this week's show. Thanks
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Speaker 2: Twitter? Megan mcmonagle is why are you laughing?
Speaker 1: Do you still haven't changed yet?
Speaker 2: To producer Megan? I really I'll do like a vote
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Speaker 1: Producer Megan. Just you know it's so easy to produc mean,
Speaker 1: just start typing it within h P R O D
Speaker 1: and it's like boom there you are. Yeah, okay, but
Speaker 1: Megan mcmonagall, it's like what was that again?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Anyway, you can find Meghan there. You can find me
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