WEBVTT - Rise n Shine 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.400 Be sure to catch live editions of the Ben Maller 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:05.600 Show weekdays at two a m. Eastern eleven pm Pacific. 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:11.639 If you thought four hours a day, minutes a week 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:15.200 was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants of 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:18.840 the old Republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:21.720 crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the rich 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:26.160 pill poppers in the penthouse, the Clearinghouse of hot takes, 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:30.040 break free or something special. The Fifth Hour, which Ben 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:38.240 Maller starts right now in the air everywhere yet again, 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:42.200 back at it after a week hiatus. More on that 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:45.479 in a future podcast. But it is the fifth Hour, 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:50.400 because four hours or not enough, eight days a week. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:54.560 This our Friday podcast, And if you looked at who's 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.720 coming on, you know this is an interview podcast. So 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:02.000 we will welcome in here chef it in, a colleague 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:03.960 of ours, a friend of ours, a big TV guy, 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:06.720 radio guy, the whole thing in a second. But David 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.920 Gascon is back. He's actually been away for almost a 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:13.560 month and no one's complained at all. But none of 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:16.240 the panels that go your way, no, not at all. 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.800 I know people were very a lot of direct messages 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.360 and a lot of emails. It was very encouraging to 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:25.520 see and hear how shitty it was last week. I 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:28.640 would I would argue that you can argue but talk 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.520 about this coming up. But we found a new star here, 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:35.280 a new breakout some my Ryan Smith of all people. Yeah, 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:38.840 a wrestler who I think he body slammed you is 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.640 what he did. It was wonderful to hear and uh 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:43.240 so that Well, we'll get more to that on the 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:49.800 Saturday podcast. But today is all about Rob Parker, my 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:53.600 man Rob Parker. No, I love Rob, I've admired like 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.600 this is like a mutual admiration thing because I've always 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:01.880 enjoyed Rob's work because we have similar east in radio 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:08.000 and broadcasting, where you have to go full weaponized when 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.920 you when you do and you don't want to go halfway. 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:12.840 You don't want to just put your toe on the water. 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:15.680 You want to go all the way in the deep end. 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:17.639 You don't want to go into kiddie pool. You want 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:19.679 to go in the deep end. And Rob's always done that, 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.640 very passionate. He backs up what he says, and he 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.680 makes some people uncomfortable because a lot of the media 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:30.160 these days and Mr Softies and uh and I love it. 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:33.320 So you know Rob from Fox Sports Radio and he's 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.480 been doing a great job him and and Chris Broussard 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:40.720 on The Odd Couple, and he's on TV. He's regularly 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:44.600 on with Skipping Shannon on Fox Sports One. He's a 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:49.560 professor at USC. He's got my old producer wrong button, 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:53.840 Bob Gara, who's working on his show. So let's welcome 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:57.119 in now the great Rob Parker and Rob. Why don't 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.240 we start with the fact now Gascon has been busting 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:03.040 my balls here because we are both following the company 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:07.080 mandate of working from home. We have home studios and 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:12.000 doing these shows during the apocalypse. So I actually kind 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.480 of wasn't that into it at first. I've kind of 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.280 come around to it. Where are you at, Rob Parker? 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.760 Are you are you settling now to working from home? 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:25.800 You know, it's crazy, Ben, It's it's at first I 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:27.960 was like, this is great. You don't have to go anywhere, 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.440 you know what I mean, like like you could. I 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:32.960 got my sweats on and my slippers and I'm just 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.280 turning on, cranking on, and I'm ready to go and 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.160 there's no commute home afterwards. So you think it's cool, 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.760 But after a while you just realize you mr camaraderie 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.360 and being around some other people. And I don't know 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.480 if you're married or have a house full of people, 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:50.800 it might be different. But as a single guy, you 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.440 know what I mean, it's it's kind of tired after 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:57.280 a while, you know. So, yeah, I liked it in 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.360 the beginning. I don't think I like it as much now. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.640 You know. It's I'm actually the opposite because when I 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.560 when I started, I remember I had a lengthy conversation 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.520 with our boss and when Scott chap here and I 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:09.280 was like, you know, I want to keep going to 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.000 the station, and he was like, no, he wants you 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.120 to do the show from home for a while until 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:15.320 this gets settled. And I was like, no, no, I 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.279 got in the radio. I like going to the radio station. 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.520 But I got it's weird, Rob, I'm used to it now, 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.440 like it's my routine. I have my whole my routine's changed, 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.479 and because we don't have to drive anywhere and do 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:30.240 all that kind of stuff. But it's I'm really I'm 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:31.720 used to I'm sure I'll get used to it and 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.200 when eventually this ends it we'll go back to the studio. 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.800 But it is much different when you're sitting in your 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.920 home studio compared to being at the radio stage. I mean, 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.680 the whole the vibe is just it's you can't and 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.560 for you. For you as different too, because you're doing 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.280 you know, you're one man that you know what I mean, 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.600 You're not playing off of anybody. I think for for 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.520 Chris and I, it's just you know how it is 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:56.200 when you're in the when you have a partner and 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.719 you're in the studio and and you can be ready 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.000 to jump in and you can see the guy's expression, 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.440 do you know what I mean, it's just a little different. Yeah, 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.960 I haven't seen Christen's march. I mean we're almost we're 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:13.200 coming upon what's the I haven't seen Chris. Yeah, you 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.240 need that eye contact right when you know you just 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:17.080 kind of get that que. You don't even need the 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:18.880 verbal que. You can just look at them and know 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.679 it's your your time to bail them out, right because 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.680 exactly you already know that's like a full time job 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:29.440 bailing out, Uh, Chris Broussard, that's the prisoner at the moment. 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:33.120 You know what I'm saying. The show is kicking ask 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:34.960 but I mean, you guys have been doing great, right, 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:38.280 what's the secret? What's the secret? Sauce there? Because that's 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:41.160 like the talk of I Heart Media and Fox Sports 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:44.160 Radio and everyone's been saying how great the show is doing, 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:47.880 and the downloads and the the whole thing has been going, well, 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:50.200 what's the secrets? I need that? I need the secret. 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.080 You don't need the secret. You're you're doing just fine, 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:56.840 You're doing great. But I'll tell you the download is amazing. 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.440 Band one point one million. You know, we're already into 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.880 this is just started out third year. That's pretty incredible number. 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.520 Uh So we're proud of that. We work at it. 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.400 But the big thing, Ben, I just think that the 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:12.360 radio show has to be two things, fun and informative. 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:17.479 That's it. Fun and informative. Can't be all fun, can't 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:21.359 be just all numbers and information. It's got to be 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.839 a combination. Because if I'm making your laugh or whatever, 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:29.440 or I'm you know, making you react negatively positively, but 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.200 you do walk away with something and you say, man, 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.440 I didn't know that, you know, Chris dropped the nugget 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.240 on me that I could drop, you know, talk to 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.000 my friends at worker or you know, your friends that 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.400 you text with or you you get a beer with 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.440 it every so often, you know what I mean, Like 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.360 people want to bring away something from the show. So 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:51.400 that's really what it's all about. Fun and informative. And 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:55.239 if you can put those two off, I think people 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.039 will listen. And I've told you this before, Rob, but 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.000 when I was moonlighting at w EI and it was 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:04.720 a slow day and you had said something to Skip 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.960 and Chain it on TV about Tom Brady, you know, 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:11.080 just just it's something, you know, a mild comment. You know, 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.480 you you've shown some haymakers at Brady over the years, 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.360 but just like a mild comment and that that would 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:20.280 cultivate like tons of reaction. I can't believe Rob said 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:23.320 this about Tom Brady. How there you you know? And 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.160 and uh, I know you're aware of it because we've 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:28.200 talked about it before. But uh, you know, the the 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.440 Boston Market, they they're so protective. Now I guess not 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:35.600 anymore because Brady's gone. But you were the punching bag 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.920 when it came to Tom Brady for probably ten years 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.680 at least, maybe longer than that. I mean that what 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.600 Ben the thing that really got me and told me 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.680 that that I didn't I did you know? Shake the 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:52.680 bear is that when if you remember, I predicted that 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:56.960 Kansas City would be the Patriots in the a f 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:01.560 C Championship game and the Patriots one, and the Patriots 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.800 on their Twitter to social media they have four point 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:09.800 four million followers. They put a video together and they 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:14.560 spliced in my comments between the highlights of Brady thrown 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:21.000 touchdowns and winning. And I have just thought to myself seriously, like, 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.680 if you didn't matter, Ben, and you were just some 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:27.680 hack and nobody respected your opinion, they wouldn't do it. 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:31.120 Am I Right? Yeah? And the other thing I've heard 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:34.440 about Belichick is that, you know, the Patriots during that run, 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.720 like no one criticized them other than the cheating stuff, 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:39.800 but as far as like the football stuff, you were 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:41.840 one of the few guys Rob that would do that. 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:45.800 So I imagine that, you know, inside the Patriot facility, 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.000 they're like, hey, Tom Robbing and Bob Parker said this, 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:49.960 that and the other thing. I don't think that's out 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.839 of balance that that could have happened. Uh. And when 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.000 the Patriots were playing, because they were looking for that 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:58.520 kind of motivation and you were inspired. You inspired the 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.000 Patriot run Rob, How does that make you feel? That 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:04.600 doesn't make me feel good since they won and with 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:08.319 those lucky super bowls. But it is what it is. 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:12.160 But I just, uh, there are no sacred cows and sports. 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.880 I'm sorry, Ben, you know, and I'm not one of 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.600 these guys. I'm not gonna say because this is they 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.680 got this narrative and stuff that they just are going 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:25.880 to recite. It's just like going to a team fan 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:29.400 a team's website. Really are you gonna read when you're 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:33.040 gonna read the column Ben that the Clippers should fire 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:37.160 Doc Rivers on Clippers dot com. You'll never read that column. 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.199 I'm all right, Okay, When are you gonna read the 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:45.840 story about how bad a player is? And the Players Tribune? Okay, 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:50.080 that's that website. Uh, from the player's perspective, this is 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:53.120 what I'm telling you. So for people who are really 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:57.040 honest and want the real stuff, you can't go to 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.439 those sources. And you can't go to these guys who 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:03.160 are fami boys who want to take pictures with everybody, 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.679 and and and and you know what I mean, in 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:09.680 glad hand everybody, And I'm not talking about been ripping 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.960 everybody just to rip people but call it like you 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.560 see the Kyler Murray is not that guy, say it. 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:19.400 We had Martin Wiss on our show. Martin Wiss comes on. 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.800 You know these young guys, uh like Gascon, you know, 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:26.760 with the brim and they're gonna rewrite sportswriters and they're 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.960 gonna tell us all this stuff. And and he was 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.480 making the case that Kyler Murray is gonna be the 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:36.839 m v P because Lamar wanted his second year and 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:40.120 so did Patrick Mahomes, you know, a second year in 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.280 the league. They both wanted it. Now this is Kyler 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.600 Murray's turn. So so Chris and I both said, oh 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.320 is that's right? Okay, good, So let's make a bet 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:52.040 and we bet them three pair of Jordan's, two pair 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.760 of Jordans each to one, two to one, So you 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:59.800 win four Clare Jordan's. Had he Kyler Murray wanted at 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:03.080 of was? He backed down because he because he didn't 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:04.800 have a case, you know what I mean, he couldn't 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.800 really make that case. And now as we look Kyler Murray, 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.920 I'm not he's a talent. I'm not saying he can't play, 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.840 but let's let's pump the brakes on all his fandom. 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:17.840 That's all pump the brakes and robbed. On that note 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:22.200 with Luke Panella, did you ever get into a verbal 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:26.400 altercation with an editor regarding a specific story that you 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:31.720 either did or didn't want to to publish. Um, yeah, 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.440 it was. There was stuff pushed back on some stuff, 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.800 but for the most part, you know, they want to know, 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.200 like who your sources are, you know what I mean, 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.400 and as long as you could clear it, uh, and 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:47.040 they have a feel for who it is, uh you're 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.240 talking about or whatever, you know what I mean, just 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:53.040 to cover themselves. Remember that's the difference between working for 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:57.520 a newspaper and writing a blog from your you know, 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:01.480 grandmother's basement. Is that where when you're wrong or when 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.480 somebody comes to sue you, they could sue the newspaper 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:08.080 and get money. You can't get you know, money from 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:11.480 your grandmother's basement. So those are just the thing that 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:16.199 you have to be able to uh identify and and 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.080 and be clear about, you know what I mean, where 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.360 you're getting the information from that you're writing. Yeah. The 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.400 other thing, Rob kind of following the train of thought 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.679 here about the fans and the media and all that, 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.520 it seems like a lot of fans these days have 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:33.959 been programmed to they don't want to hear anything negative 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.360 about their team. They can't handle it, like they I 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.160 don't know if it's because how they were raised or whatever. 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.360 I hear that all the time. It's like tribalism is 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.120 the word here. Nobody wants to I say nobody, But 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.840 it seems like a higher percentage now than than years ago. 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.319 Can handle the criticism. But you're a New York guy. 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.040 That's how you did it when you were going up right, 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:57.040 Robbie heard you were robbsolutely absolutely, and you're right though. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:00.000 I think they're all just people don't want to hear 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.520 or anything negative or the truth is just is shocking. 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.720 I can still remember, and this one of the greatest 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:11.640 columns I've ever read. I hate it. I hated it 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:16.320 made me furious, I was so kissed. But but I 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:20.040 I carried that column with me my whole life. And 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:23.160 it was by Dick Young, the late great Dick Young, 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.800 who was a columnist for a long time for the 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.440 Daily News in New York and then the Post and 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:32.920 I get on the train and Dwight Goodness coming back 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:37.240 from drug we have and Dick Young, the lead of 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:41.880 his column was stand up and Boo, and he basically 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.720 wrote a column that people should boo Dwight Gooden his 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:48.320 first time back. He's a DRUGGI you know, like like 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:52.600 win in on him. And it just got me, you know, 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:54.800 and I thought, wow, I could you write this about 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:59.000 Dwight Gooden? Blah blah blah. But those are the columns 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:02.880 that that you to write like. It's not milk toast, 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.559 middle of the road. He put it out there, and 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.360 and I always think of that column and I still 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:12.240 remember the lead. And this is a true story too. 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.080 People ask me all the time about, you know, how, well, 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:18.120 how did I get to be this the columnists that 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.360 I am and and the takes that I have or whatever. 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.760 And I went to Columbia J School and I had 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:29.800 a teacher, joint Lee, and she called me into her office. 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.200 Not at the time I was going to Columbia J School. 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.920 I was uh. I was covering the nets in New 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:40.920 Jersey nets for the daily News This is night. And 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:45.280 she called me in and she said, Robert, you know, 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:49.040 like you're way ahead of your classmates. People here are 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:52.520 trying to learn about journalism. You're already working for a 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.680 major daily. You know where the story is, you know 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:59.240 how to write lead. She says, You're way advanced from 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:03.080 everybody else. To j school, she said, but you're not. 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.680 I'm not gonna let you walk out of here and cruise, 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:10.400 you know, to a master's degree. I'm not. She said, 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.480 I want more from you. And she was a small 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.120 Asian woman and she walks up to me, and I 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:19.280 say this just to say, you know, to the imagery 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.600 of it. She walks up to me. Here, I am 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:25.120 a six ft four black guy, small five ft something 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:28.280 Asian woman. She walks up to me. She acts like 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:31.960 she has an imaginary knife in her hand, and she 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:35.160 sticks it in my back and she says, I want 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:38.840 you to take the knife, stick it in, turn it 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:44.479 and draw blood. That's what I want from you. That unbelievable, 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:48.400 that's the message she gave me. Yeah, but you know, 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.920 I mean, you want to get a reaction, you want 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.200 to have something classionate. I mean, as you said milk 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.560 Toads just kind of playing it down the middle. I 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.080 mean that you know that's there's nothing that anybody can 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:02.360 do that ben you just even if it's if I 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:07.600 learned this from Skip Payless, either you're all the way 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:09.760 in or you're all the way out. That's that's all. 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:11.800 Do you know what I mean? Like, if you're gonna 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.120 be in on to after you're in Ben and you 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:17.000 think Mookie Betts is the greatest thing since light spread, 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.200 be all the way in on Mookie Bets. If you 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.720 don't think Mookie Betts is good or Kyler Murray's good, 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.280 you should be all the way out. That's just playing 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:30.360 the commas and of uh, you know, trying to soft 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.720 soak it or soft sell it. Just just go for 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:37.000 it and make your case as strong as you can 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:42.680 in favor of somebody or against somebody. Yeah, don't just 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:44.960 tip your toe in the water. You gotta jump in 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:48.360 there and do a belly whopper, is no doubt. Yeah, 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.080 all right. We did have a big NBA trade the 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:55.360 other day this week. Here, Russell Westbrook is on the 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.040 mover Rob, so I guess we should do some hard 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.840 oh sports stuff. But where where are you at on Westbrook? 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.120 This is a guy either love him or you hate him, 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:05.600 But where you at on the Westbrook trade? If I'm Westbrook, 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:09.239 I'm I'm pissed because I didn't even think that the 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.600 NBA could make trades to the Washington generals. I didn't 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.960 even believe that that was possible, But here he is. 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:21.520 I mean, you want to talk about NBA Siberia, that's 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:26.040 what the Wizards are. I mean I would feel like 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:29.360 I was dumped and now don't have a chance to win, 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.000 you know, like before he was on some teams that 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.879 haven't had a chance. I'm not saying a great chance. 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.239 He went from having a chance to no chance with 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:42.040 that franchise and that organization. So if I'm him and 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.800 then your numbers start to be diminished now, like even 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.000 if you get the triple doubles and you're not winning. 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.760 But the one thing I've admired about him when he 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.600 was an okay, see you couldn't rip him, was that 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:54.960 those numbers when he when he had a triple double 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.880 thing used to win. They wanted a high clip. So 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:01.480 it wasn't just you know, being doing stat Patford un 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:04.240 filling your statue. I mean he actually was hoping the 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:08.800 team win. So I wouldn't like it if I was him. 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.800 Well now, but he can do whatever he wants in Washington. 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:13.640 And that was the problem him and Harden they had. 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:15.840 They were both ball dominant guys, and now he can 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:17.879 go to Washington, although Bradley Beale's there and he's going 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:21.080 to demand the ball a fair amount. But that's how 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.560 much winning will they do? With a question that's that's 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.440 a big thing. I say they make the playoffs. I 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.480 need they're the Eastern Conference, the bottom of the Eastern Conference. 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.199 I see my problem with Westbrook. He's he's like the 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.520 guy that runs the New York Marathon and goes great 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:38.040 for five miles and then the last, you know, last 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:40.679 one point two miles, he pulls a hammy and he 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.919 can't finish the race. Because he's what Westbrook gets you 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.240 to the finish line. But those last two mus You've 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:48.359 seen it rob over the years, those last two minutes, 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.399 the bad decisions. He can't shoot from the outside. Guys 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.399 leave him open. Remember the Lakers in the playoffs in 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:56.520 the bubble, they were leaving him wide open. He kept 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:59.840 shooting three point shots. It was it was terrible, but 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:03.960 that it was definitely embarrassing. But I gotta wager for you. 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:08.440 Let's do let's bet twenty wingstop wings. I want all 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:12.040 flat farmer, John Garlic and the diet coke, get whatever 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:16.960 and a drink I'm betting that the Wizards do not 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.600 n O TAM make the playoffs. I think I think 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:22.639 you're not thinking about what Atlanta has done in the 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.440 off season. I don't see the Wizards making the playoffs. 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.119 All right, I'm in. I mean, I'll take that bet. 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:30.560 I'm gonna bet on and you're gonna make me bet 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.640 on Westbrook. I'm not even a big fan of his game, 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:34.679 but I'm gonna bet on Westbrook. And the other thing 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:36.280 that Rob, I I haven't talked to you in in a while, 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:40.359 so last week spoke you were making decrees about the 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:43.720 Brooklyn Nets. We're gonna win the NBA Championship. Did you 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:47.920 come off that position? Rob? Are you sticking by this? 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:50.679 This upcoming NBA season, which is about to start, is 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:53.919 the year of the Brooklyn Net. I'm all in on 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.800 the Brooklyn Nets. They definitely will get to the finals. 0:19:57.240 --> 0:19:58.880 I don't know who they'll play. You want to bet 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:02.360 on that as well? I'm gonna say Brooklyn does not 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:05.679 get to the Uh, this is gonna be Um. How 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:09.239 should I describe the relationship like oil and water? Like 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:13.520 I can't Durant and Kyrie and and you've got the 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.399 New York tabloids. And this is not this is not 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:20.000 gonna be a great situation. Let's do it. Because let's 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:21.919 do it. We'll do two for one, We'll do two. 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:24.880 I got the Wizards bet and we got the Nets bet. 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.359 So I'm all in. I can't wait, you know, I 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:31.440 mean I might have to put on an extra ten 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:35.399 pounds after hanging out with you. So but it's okay. 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:39.680 Remember we're doing our service. What are these chickens supposed 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:41.600 to do, you know, Like they don't go to college, 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.160 they don't get married, they don't find a house. They're 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:46.720 here for us to maunch on. So let's do it. 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:50.320 Of course, assuming that this bet actually gets paid out, 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:52.440 that means you, too, gentlemen, will actually have to leave 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:54.800 your your mansions, you guys, I have to leave your 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:59.159 palaces that actually meet people and consume. And well we 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:03.760 got it'smistic, guest, We've got a vaccine. Come in, come on, man, 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:10.600 I'm planning on going to Russia come August. Russia. I'm optimistic. 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.199 I'm optimistic. You can say hi to my family, my 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:16.000 relatives in Russia. I think it's Romania now it used 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:18.920 to be Russia. But yeah, there you go. Nice there 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:23.040 you go. Most people do not know this, but I 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:26.320 will disclose you've been to all seven continents in this 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:31.320 wide world of ours guests. Absolutely. It was one year ago, 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:37.760 December three, that I landed or not landed, but cruised 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:42.600 into Antarctica, and that was the seventh and final continent. 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:45.120 Been all over. I love it. I'd love to travel, 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:49.080 I'd love to see new things. Just an unbelievable experience. 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:53.840 I mean I left that place feeling like, um, like 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:57.560 I could accomplish anything here. I am a kid from Jamaica, 0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:01.880