1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of the Ben Maller 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at two a m. Eastern eleven pm Pacific. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: If you thought four hours a day, minutes a week 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants of 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: the old Republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the rich 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: pill poppers in the penthouse, the Clearinghouse of hot takes, 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: break free or something special. The Fifth Hour, which Ben 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: Maller starts right now in the air everywhere yet again, 10 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: back at it after a week hiatus. More on that 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: in a future podcast. But it is the fifth Hour, 12 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: because four hours or not enough, eight days a week. 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: This our Friday podcast, And if you looked at who's 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: coming on, you know this is an interview podcast. So 15 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: we will welcome in here chef it in, a colleague 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: of ours, a friend of ours, a big TV guy, 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: radio guy, the whole thing in a second. But David 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: Gascon is back. He's actually been away for almost a 19 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: month and no one's complained at all. But none of 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: the panels that go your way, no, not at all. 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: I know people were very a lot of direct messages 22 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: and a lot of emails. It was very encouraging to 23 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: see and hear how shitty it was last week. I 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: would I would argue that you can argue but talk 25 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: about this coming up. But we found a new star here, 26 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: a new breakout some my Ryan Smith of all people. Yeah, 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: a wrestler who I think he body slammed you is 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: what he did. It was wonderful to hear and uh 29 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: so that Well, we'll get more to that on the 30 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: Saturday podcast. But today is all about Rob Parker, my 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: man Rob Parker. No, I love Rob, I've admired like 32 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: this is like a mutual admiration thing because I've always 33 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: enjoyed Rob's work because we have similar east in radio 34 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: and broadcasting, where you have to go full weaponized when 35 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: you when you do and you don't want to go halfway. 36 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: You don't want to just put your toe on the water. 37 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: You want to go all the way in the deep end. 38 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: You don't want to go into kiddie pool. You want 39 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: to go in the deep end. And Rob's always done that, 40 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: very passionate. He backs up what he says, and he 41 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: makes some people uncomfortable because a lot of the media 42 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: these days and Mr Softies and uh and I love it. 43 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: So you know Rob from Fox Sports Radio and he's 44 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: been doing a great job him and and Chris Broussard 45 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: on The Odd Couple, and he's on TV. He's regularly 46 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: on with Skipping Shannon on Fox Sports One. He's a 47 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: professor at USC. He's got my old producer wrong button, 48 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: Bob Gara, who's working on his show. So let's welcome 49 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 1: in now the great Rob Parker and Rob. Why don't 50 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: we start with the fact now Gascon has been busting 51 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: my balls here because we are both following the company 52 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: mandate of working from home. We have home studios and 53 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: doing these shows during the apocalypse. So I actually kind 54 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: of wasn't that into it at first. I've kind of 55 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: come around to it. Where are you at, Rob Parker? 56 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: Are you are you settling now to working from home? 57 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy, Ben, It's it's at first I 58 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: was like, this is great. You don't have to go anywhere, 59 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like like you could. I 60 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: got my sweats on and my slippers and I'm just 61 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: turning on, cranking on, and I'm ready to go and 62 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: there's no commute home afterwards. So you think it's cool, 63 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: But after a while you just realize you mr camaraderie 64 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: and being around some other people. And I don't know 65 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: if you're married or have a house full of people, 66 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: it might be different. But as a single guy, you 67 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean, it's it's kind of tired after 68 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: a while, you know. So, yeah, I liked it in 69 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: the beginning. I don't think I like it as much now. 70 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: You know. It's I'm actually the opposite because when I 71 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: when I started, I remember I had a lengthy conversation 72 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: with our boss and when Scott chap here and I 73 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: was like, you know, I want to keep going to 74 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: the station, and he was like, no, he wants you 75 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: to do the show from home for a while until 76 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: this gets settled. And I was like, no, no, I 77 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: got in the radio. I like going to the radio station. 78 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: But I got it's weird, Rob, I'm used to it now, 79 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: like it's my routine. I have my whole my routine's changed, 80 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: and because we don't have to drive anywhere and do 81 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. But it's I'm really I'm 82 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: used to I'm sure I'll get used to it and 83 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: when eventually this ends it we'll go back to the studio. 84 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: But it is much different when you're sitting in your 85 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: home studio compared to being at the radio stage. I mean, 86 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: the whole the vibe is just it's you can't and 87 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: for you. For you as different too, because you're doing 88 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, you're one man that you know what I mean, 89 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: You're not playing off of anybody. I think for for 90 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: Chris and I, it's just you know how it is 91 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: when you're in the when you have a partner and 92 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: you're in the studio and and you can be ready 93 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: to jump in and you can see the guy's expression, 94 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean, it's just a little different. Yeah, 95 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: I haven't seen Christen's march. I mean we're almost we're 96 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: coming upon what's the I haven't seen Chris. Yeah, you 97 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: need that eye contact right when you know you just 98 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: kind of get that que. You don't even need the 99 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: verbal que. You can just look at them and know 100 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 1: it's your your time to bail them out, right because 101 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: exactly you already know that's like a full time job 102 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: bailing out, Uh, Chris Broussard, that's the prisoner at the moment. 103 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The show is kicking ask 104 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: but I mean, you guys have been doing great, right, 105 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: what's the secret? What's the secret? Sauce there? Because that's 106 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: like the talk of I Heart Media and Fox Sports 107 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: Radio and everyone's been saying how great the show is doing, 108 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: and the downloads and the the whole thing has been going, well, 109 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: what's the secrets? I need that? I need the secret. 110 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: You don't need the secret. You're you're doing just fine, 111 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: You're doing great. But I'll tell you the download is amazing. 112 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: Band one point one million. You know, we're already into 113 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: this is just started out third year. That's pretty incredible number. 114 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: Uh So we're proud of that. We work at it. 115 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: But the big thing, Ben, I just think that the 116 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: radio show has to be two things, fun and informative. 117 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: That's it. Fun and informative. Can't be all fun, can't 118 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: be just all numbers and information. It's got to be 119 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: a combination. Because if I'm making your laugh or whatever, 120 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: or I'm you know, making you react negatively positively, but 121 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: you do walk away with something and you say, man, 122 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: I didn't know that, you know, Chris dropped the nugget 123 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: on me that I could drop, you know, talk to 124 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: my friends at worker or you know, your friends that 125 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: you text with or you you get a beer with 126 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: it every so often, you know what I mean, Like 127 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: people want to bring away something from the show. So 128 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: that's really what it's all about. Fun and informative. And 129 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 1: if you can put those two off, I think people 130 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: will listen. And I've told you this before, Rob, but 131 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: when I was moonlighting at w EI and it was 132 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: a slow day and you had said something to Skip 133 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: and Chain it on TV about Tom Brady, you know, 134 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: just just it's something, you know, a mild comment. You know, 135 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: you you've shown some haymakers at Brady over the years, 136 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: but just like a mild comment and that that would 137 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: cultivate like tons of reaction. I can't believe Rob said 138 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: this about Tom Brady. How there you you know? And 139 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: and uh, I know you're aware of it because we've 140 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: talked about it before. But uh, you know, the the 141 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: Boston Market, they they're so protective. Now I guess not 142 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: anymore because Brady's gone. But you were the punching bag 143 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: when it came to Tom Brady for probably ten years 144 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: at least, maybe longer than that. I mean that what 145 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: Ben the thing that really got me and told me 146 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: that that I didn't I did you know? Shake the 147 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: bear is that when if you remember, I predicted that 148 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: Kansas City would be the Patriots in the a f 149 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: C Championship game and the Patriots one, and the Patriots 150 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: on their Twitter to social media they have four point 151 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: four million followers. They put a video together and they 152 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: spliced in my comments between the highlights of Brady thrown 153 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: touchdowns and winning. And I have just thought to myself seriously, like, 154 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: if you didn't matter, Ben, and you were just some 155 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: hack and nobody respected your opinion, they wouldn't do it. 156 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: Am I Right? Yeah? And the other thing I've heard 157 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: about Belichick is that, you know, the Patriots during that run, 158 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: like no one criticized them other than the cheating stuff, 159 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: but as far as like the football stuff, you were 160 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: one of the few guys Rob that would do that. 161 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: So I imagine that, you know, inside the Patriot facility, 162 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: they're like, hey, Tom Robbing and Bob Parker said this, 163 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: that and the other thing. I don't think that's out 164 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: of balance that that could have happened. Uh. And when 165 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: the Patriots were playing, because they were looking for that 166 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: kind of motivation and you were inspired. You inspired the 167 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: Patriot run Rob, How does that make you feel? That 168 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: doesn't make me feel good since they won and with 169 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: those lucky super bowls. But it is what it is. 170 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: But I just, uh, there are no sacred cows and sports. 171 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Ben, you know, and I'm not one of 172 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: these guys. I'm not gonna say because this is they 173 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: got this narrative and stuff that they just are going 174 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: to recite. It's just like going to a team fan 175 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: a team's website. Really are you gonna read when you're 176 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: gonna read the column Ben that the Clippers should fire 177 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: Doc Rivers on Clippers dot com. You'll never read that column. 178 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: I'm all right, Okay, When are you gonna read the 179 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: story about how bad a player is? And the Players Tribune? Okay, 180 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: that's that website. Uh, from the player's perspective, this is 181 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: what I'm telling you. So for people who are really 182 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: honest and want the real stuff, you can't go to 183 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: those sources. And you can't go to these guys who 184 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: are fami boys who want to take pictures with everybody, 185 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: and and and and you know what I mean, in 186 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: glad hand everybody, And I'm not talking about been ripping 187 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: everybody just to rip people but call it like you 188 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: see the Kyler Murray is not that guy, say it. 189 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: We had Martin Wiss on our show. Martin Wiss comes on. 190 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: You know these young guys, uh like Gascon, you know, 191 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: with the brim and they're gonna rewrite sportswriters and they're 192 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: gonna tell us all this stuff. And and he was 193 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: making the case that Kyler Murray is gonna be the 194 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: m v P because Lamar wanted his second year and 195 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: so did Patrick Mahomes, you know, a second year in 196 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: the league. They both wanted it. Now this is Kyler 197 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: Murray's turn. So so Chris and I both said, oh 198 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: is that's right? Okay, good, So let's make a bet 199 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: and we bet them three pair of Jordan's, two pair 200 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: of Jordans each to one, two to one, So you 201 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: win four Clare Jordan's. Had he Kyler Murray wanted at 202 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: of was? He backed down because he because he didn't 203 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: have a case, you know what I mean, he couldn't 204 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: really make that case. And now as we look Kyler Murray, 205 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm not he's a talent. I'm not saying he can't play, 206 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: but let's let's pump the brakes on all his fandom. 207 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: That's all pump the brakes and robbed. On that note 208 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: with Luke Panella, did you ever get into a verbal 209 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: altercation with an editor regarding a specific story that you 210 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: either did or didn't want to to publish. Um, yeah, 211 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: it was. There was stuff pushed back on some stuff, 212 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: but for the most part, you know, they want to know, 213 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: like who your sources are, you know what I mean, 214 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: and as long as you could clear it, uh, and 215 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: they have a feel for who it is, uh you're 216 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: talking about or whatever, you know what I mean, just 217 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: to cover themselves. Remember that's the difference between working for 218 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: a newspaper and writing a blog from your you know, 219 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: grandmother's basement. Is that where when you're wrong or when 220 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: somebody comes to sue you, they could sue the newspaper 221 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: and get money. You can't get you know, money from 222 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: your grandmother's basement. So those are just the thing that 223 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: you have to be able to uh identify and and 224 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: and be clear about, you know what I mean, where 225 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: you're getting the information from that you're writing. Yeah. The 226 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: other thing, Rob kind of following the train of thought 227 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: here about the fans and the media and all that, 228 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: it seems like a lot of fans these days have 229 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: been programmed to they don't want to hear anything negative 230 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: about their team. They can't handle it, like they I 231 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: don't know if it's because how they were raised or whatever. 232 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: I hear that all the time. It's like tribalism is 233 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: the word here. Nobody wants to I say nobody, But 234 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: it seems like a higher percentage now than than years ago. 235 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: Can handle the criticism. But you're a New York guy. 236 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: That's how you did it when you were going up right, 237 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: Robbie heard you were robbsolutely absolutely, and you're right though. 238 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: I think they're all just people don't want to hear 239 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: or anything negative or the truth is just is shocking. 240 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: I can still remember, and this one of the greatest 241 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: columns I've ever read. I hate it. I hated it 242 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: made me furious, I was so kissed. But but I 243 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: I carried that column with me my whole life. And 244 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: it was by Dick Young, the late great Dick Young, 245 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: who was a columnist for a long time for the 246 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: Daily News in New York and then the Post and 247 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: I get on the train and Dwight Goodness coming back 248 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: from drug we have and Dick Young, the lead of 249 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: his column was stand up and Boo, and he basically 250 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: wrote a column that people should boo Dwight Gooden his 251 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: first time back. He's a DRUGGI you know, like like 252 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: win in on him. And it just got me, you know, 253 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: and I thought, wow, I could you write this about 254 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: Dwight Gooden? Blah blah blah. But those are the columns 255 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: that that you to write like. It's not milk toast, 256 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: middle of the road. He put it out there, and 257 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: and I always think of that column and I still 258 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: remember the lead. And this is a true story too. 259 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: People ask me all the time about, you know, how, well, 260 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: how did I get to be this the columnists that 261 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: I am and and the takes that I have or whatever. 262 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: And I went to Columbia J School and I had 263 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: a teacher, joint Lee, and she called me into her office. 264 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: Not at the time I was going to Columbia J School. 265 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: I was uh. I was covering the nets in New 266 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: Jersey nets for the daily News This is night. And 267 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: she called me in and she said, Robert, you know, 268 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: like you're way ahead of your classmates. People here are 269 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: trying to learn about journalism. You're already working for a 270 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: major daily. You know where the story is, you know 271 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: how to write lead. She says, You're way advanced from 272 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: everybody else. To j school, she said, but you're not. 273 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you walk out of here and cruise, 274 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, to a master's degree. I'm not. She said, 275 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: I want more from you. And she was a small 276 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: Asian woman and she walks up to me, and I 277 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: say this just to say, you know, to the imagery 278 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: of it. She walks up to me. Here, I am 279 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: a six ft four black guy, small five ft something 280 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: Asian woman. She walks up to me. She acts like 281 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: she has an imaginary knife in her hand, and she 282 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: sticks it in my back and she says, I want 283 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: you to take the knife, stick it in, turn it 284 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:44,479 Speaker 1: and draw blood. That's what I want from you. That unbelievable, 285 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: that's the message she gave me. Yeah, but you know, 286 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you want to get a reaction, you want 287 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: to have something classionate. I mean, as you said milk 288 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: Toads just kind of playing it down the middle. I 289 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: mean that you know that's there's nothing that anybody can 290 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: do that ben you just even if it's if I 291 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: learned this from Skip Payless, either you're all the way 292 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: in or you're all the way out. That's that's all. 293 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like, if you're gonna 294 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: be in on to after you're in Ben and you 295 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: think Mookie Betts is the greatest thing since light spread, 296 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: be all the way in on Mookie Bets. If you 297 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: don't think Mookie Betts is good or Kyler Murray's good, 298 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: you should be all the way out. That's just playing 299 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: the commas and of uh, you know, trying to soft 300 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: soak it or soft sell it. Just just go for 301 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: it and make your case as strong as you can 302 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: in favor of somebody or against somebody. Yeah, don't just 303 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: tip your toe in the water. You gotta jump in 304 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: there and do a belly whopper, is no doubt. Yeah, 305 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: all right. We did have a big NBA trade the 306 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: other day this week. Here, Russell Westbrook is on the 307 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: mover Rob, so I guess we should do some hard 308 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: oh sports stuff. But where where are you at on Westbrook? 309 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: This is a guy either love him or you hate him, 310 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: But where you at on the Westbrook trade? If I'm Westbrook, 311 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,239 Speaker 1: I'm I'm pissed because I didn't even think that the 312 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: NBA could make trades to the Washington generals. I didn't 313 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: even believe that that was possible, But here he is. 314 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you want to talk about NBA Siberia, that's 315 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: what the Wizards are. I mean I would feel like 316 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: I was dumped and now don't have a chance to win, 317 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, like before he was on some teams that 318 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: haven't had a chance. I'm not saying a great chance. 319 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 1: He went from having a chance to no chance with 320 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: that franchise and that organization. So if I'm him and 321 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: then your numbers start to be diminished now, like even 322 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: if you get the triple doubles and you're not winning. 323 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: But the one thing I've admired about him when he 324 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: was an okay, see you couldn't rip him, was that 325 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: those numbers when he when he had a triple double 326 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: thing used to win. They wanted a high clip. So 327 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't just you know, being doing stat Patford un 328 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: filling your statue. I mean he actually was hoping the 329 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: team win. So I wouldn't like it if I was him. 330 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: Well now, but he can do whatever he wants in Washington. 331 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: And that was the problem him and Harden they had. 332 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: They were both ball dominant guys, and now he can 333 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: go to Washington, although Bradley Beale's there and he's going 334 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: to demand the ball a fair amount. But that's how 335 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: much winning will they do? With a question that's that's 336 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: a big thing. I say they make the playoffs. I 337 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: need they're the Eastern Conference, the bottom of the Eastern Conference. 338 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: I see my problem with Westbrook. He's he's like the 339 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: guy that runs the New York Marathon and goes great 340 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: for five miles and then the last, you know, last 341 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: one point two miles, he pulls a hammy and he 342 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: can't finish the race. Because he's what Westbrook gets you 343 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: to the finish line. But those last two mus You've 344 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: seen it rob over the years, those last two minutes, 345 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: the bad decisions. He can't shoot from the outside. Guys 346 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: leave him open. Remember the Lakers in the playoffs in 347 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: the bubble, they were leaving him wide open. He kept 348 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: shooting three point shots. It was it was terrible, but 349 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: that it was definitely embarrassing. But I gotta wager for you. 350 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: Let's do let's bet twenty wingstop wings. I want all 351 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: flat farmer, John Garlic and the diet coke, get whatever 352 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: and a drink I'm betting that the Wizards do not 353 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: n O TAM make the playoffs. I think I think 354 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: you're not thinking about what Atlanta has done in the 355 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: off season. I don't see the Wizards making the playoffs. 356 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: All right, I'm in. I mean, I'll take that bet. 357 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet on and you're gonna make me bet 358 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: on Westbrook. I'm not even a big fan of his game, 359 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna bet on Westbrook. And the other thing 360 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: that Rob, I I haven't talked to you in in a while, 361 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: so last week spoke you were making decrees about the 362 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets. We're gonna win the NBA Championship. Did you 363 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: come off that position? Rob? Are you sticking by this? 364 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: This upcoming NBA season, which is about to start, is 365 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: the year of the Brooklyn Net. I'm all in on 366 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets. They definitely will get to the finals. 367 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: I don't know who they'll play. You want to bet 368 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: on that as well? I'm gonna say Brooklyn does not 369 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: get to the Uh, this is gonna be Um. How 370 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 1: should I describe the relationship like oil and water? Like 371 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: I can't Durant and Kyrie and and you've got the 372 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: New York tabloids. And this is not this is not 373 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a great situation. Let's do it. Because let's 374 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: do it. We'll do two for one, We'll do two. 375 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: I got the Wizards bet and we got the Nets bet. 376 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: So I'm all in. I can't wait, you know, I 377 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: mean I might have to put on an extra ten 378 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: pounds after hanging out with you. So but it's okay. 379 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: Remember we're doing our service. What are these chickens supposed 380 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: to do, you know, Like they don't go to college, 381 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: they don't get married, they don't find a house. They're 382 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: here for us to maunch on. So let's do it. 383 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: Of course, assuming that this bet actually gets paid out, 384 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: that means you, too, gentlemen, will actually have to leave 385 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: your your mansions, you guys, I have to leave your 386 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: palaces that actually meet people and consume. And well we 387 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: got it'smistic, guest, We've got a vaccine. Come in, come on, man, 388 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm planning on going to Russia come August. Russia. I'm optimistic. 389 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: I'm optimistic. You can say hi to my family, my 390 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: relatives in Russia. I think it's Romania now it used 391 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: to be Russia. But yeah, there you go. Nice there 392 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: you go. Most people do not know this, but I 393 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: will disclose you've been to all seven continents in this 394 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: wide world of ours guests. Absolutely. It was one year ago, 395 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: December three, that I landed or not landed, but cruised 396 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: into Antarctica, and that was the seventh and final continent. 397 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: Been all over. I love it. I'd love to travel, 398 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: I'd love to see new things. Just an unbelievable experience. 399 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: I mean I left that place feeling like, um, like 400 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: I could accomplish anything here. I am a kid from Jamaica, 401 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: Queens from the neighborhood. You know, can you imagine dreaming 402 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: about going to Antarctica and then actually going there? You 403 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: know how few people actually get to make that journey 404 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: to the to the bottom of the Earth and to 405 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: touch land there and see how untouched and how natural 406 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: it still is and and man had The air was 407 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: was unbelievably clear and clean. In the water unbelievable clean 408 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: as well. It's just it was a different place. I 409 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: felt like a different world. And uh, it's been a 410 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: year since I since I went there, but I hold 411 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 1: onto that feeling. It was. It was an unbelievable feeling. 412 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: And to celebrate that trip you actually topped it off 413 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: by going on a golden girl's cruise, right, which was unbelievable. Man, 414 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: don't laugh. Don't let that gray hair fool you. Man. 415 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: I had a great time on that cruise and all 416 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: the cheesecake decay. It was pretty amazing. I love the show. 417 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: Was one of the all time great sitcoms. I don't know, Ben, 418 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: do you have you watched it? I'm sure you've seen it. Yeah, 419 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: you see, I did back in the day. Yeah, when 420 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: it was on the nineties and back when it was 421 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: on it was kidding. I've been watching it. It's been off, 422 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: it's been on. It was thirty five years old recently, 423 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: I think, and i've watched it. I still watched it 424 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: any chance I get. And some of the writing and 425 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: the delivery as is as good as it gets. So, 426 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: as you know, Blanche was like the tramp of the group, 427 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: and he was one of my my two favorite lines 428 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: from the show. So Blanche is in the kitchen with 429 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: Dorothy and it's raining outside, and she said, lah, she says, 430 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: the rain reminds me of my first kiss. And Dorothy says, 431 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: how romantic you had your first kiss in the rain? 432 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: And blance says, no, in the shower. That's a great line. 433 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: And once Sophia, she's slipping the TV set to Sophia 434 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: with the mother that you know, Strothy's mother who lived 435 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: with them. She's flipping the set around and and uh, 436 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: this is this is like, this is not connected to anything. 437 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: It's not set up. It's like out of nowhere. Okay, 438 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: just a line that's just left out there. And she's 439 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: she's clicking the TV and she goes, hey, look there's 440 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: a black guy anchor in the news and it isn't 441 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: even the weekend. Hey, Rob if If who's the guy 442 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: that runs Elon Musk, that runs Teslaft. He said, you 443 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: know what, I like you on TV. I want you 444 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: to go into one of my spaceships and go out 445 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: into the cosmos. Would you would you sign up for that? Rob? 446 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: Would you be willing to go to outer space? If 447 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: the people said we want you to do a test 448 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: program and go out in outer space. I'm there. I'm 449 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: absolutely there. I have no doubt about it. I would 450 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: take the chance. And uh, we'll see. I mean why not. 451 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean I feel blessed. I said this earlier, but 452 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: I feel like I've done just about everything. I ever 453 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: wanted to do in life, and and that's a great feeling. 454 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, I would be up for trying something new. 455 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: Definitely outstanding. You're a professor, you're a podcaster, radio, TV, 456 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: You've covered all all forms of media and life as 457 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: far as that's concerned. So continued success. Thanks. I will 458 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: have you on again. Man. I appreciate it, Thank you, 459 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: no doubt it. Alright. Hey Ben, David Man, thank you man. 460 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: You guys are the best. You know that two of 461 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: my favorite people, not just that Fox Sports Radio, but 462 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: just in general. My man, good looking out. Thanks for Robin. 463 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller 464 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m Pacific.