WEBVTT - #325 Maggie Freleng with Johnetta Carr

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<v Speaker 1>A warning for listeners, this episode contains discussion of suicide.

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<v Speaker 1>Please listen with caution and care. In January of two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and six, Janetta car was over at her best

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<v Speaker 1>friend's house when there was a knock at the door.

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<v Speaker 1>Police were investigating a violent murder that occurred in the

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<v Speaker 1>area a few months earlier. Sixteen year old Janetta was handcuffed,

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<v Speaker 1>taken down to the precinct, and questioned for nearly twelve hours.

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<v Speaker 2>When I asked for my mom, he told me that

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<v Speaker 2>it was not a girl Scouts meeting, that my mom

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<v Speaker 2>was not a way to come down there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a nightmare she couldn't wake up from. Janetta

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<v Speaker 1>soon found herself locked up in juvenile detention, charged with

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<v Speaker 1>the murder of the man who had been her boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Janetta had a solid alibi, but as the investigation closed

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<v Speaker 1>in around her, she felt more and more hopeless, until

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<v Speaker 1>finally she saw only one way out.

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<v Speaker 2>I took all these pills one night that I had

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<v Speaker 2>been saving that I wasn't taken, and like two o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, I get a tap on my arm

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<v Speaker 2>and it's this lady stand in front of me. She

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<v Speaker 2>got an all white nurse's outfit. She just kept touching me,

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<v Speaker 2>saying everything's gonna be okay, It's okay, sweenye. And I

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<v Speaker 2>thought she was an angel. I feel like she honestly

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<v Speaker 2>saved my life. My name is Johanetta Carr and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thirty four years old. I'm from Louisville, Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>From LoVa for Good. This is wrongful conviction with Maggie

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<v Speaker 1>Freeling today. Janetta Carr. Janetta Carr was born on me

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifth, nineteen eighty eight, in Louisville, Kentucky. She's the

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<v Speaker 1>youngest of six kids and often spent time with her

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<v Speaker 1>extended family.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the youngest child, I always were in things

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<v Speaker 2>so like I'm kind of it was cool, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was. I'm very, very spoiled by my siblings. I

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<v Speaker 2>really didn't get in trouble as much by my great grandmother,

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<v Speaker 2>my mom's mom's mom. When stuff would happen, we would

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<v Speaker 2>all be at her house and my great grandmother was like,

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<v Speaker 2>she's a baby. She didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you had the baby privilege.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the baby privilege. Definitely the baby privilege.

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<v Speaker 1>Until Janetta's stepdad, Edward came into the picture. Janetta's mom, Lorinda,

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<v Speaker 1>raised all six kids on her own.

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<v Speaker 2>She worked hard her whole life to take care of us.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, we had a lot of family support.

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<v Speaker 2>So like my family's always been close.

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<v Speaker 4>We would have.

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<v Speaker 2>Dinners, you know, at my grandmother's house, who's my mom's mom,

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<v Speaker 2>very very close to my biolage dad's mom, and my

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<v Speaker 2>aunties and uncles on that side of the family, seven

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<v Speaker 2>of us total, you know. So I was always with

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<v Speaker 2>my brothers and sisters, my cousins. You know. When I

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<v Speaker 2>became a teenager, I would hang with my friends in

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<v Speaker 2>the neighborhood. We'd be at my mom's house. We wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>at my mom's house, we'd be at one of my

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<v Speaker 2>other two friends house. We'd be in the porch, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Lorenda kept a religious household, and Janetta and her siblings

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<v Speaker 1>went to church every Sunday. Janetta also kept busy performing

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<v Speaker 1>in plays at her church and taking acting classes at

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<v Speaker 1>the local theater camp.

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<v Speaker 2>And we actually did the The Midsummer's Night Dream was

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<v Speaker 2>one of the plays that we did, and I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be the witch, but I didn't get the witch part.

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up being the unicorn. And I actually love

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<v Speaker 2>unicorns today, so I got to be a unicorn and

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<v Speaker 2>a point.

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<v Speaker 4>She was just a typical teenager.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is Janetta's mom, Loreinda Baker, doing.

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<v Speaker 4>What typical teenage just do.

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<v Speaker 5>Own the phone with her friends, withjama parties, movies, skating,

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<v Speaker 5>hanging out into some on the front, forge ice cream,

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<v Speaker 5>you know that type of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Was she ever in any kind of trouble.

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<v Speaker 4>No. Joannette is a lovely person.

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<v Speaker 5>She's got a lovely personality on a wonderful spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>And everyone around her felt that spirit. She loved to

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<v Speaker 1>spend time with her friends and pamper them.

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<v Speaker 2>Like when we would go, you know, do stuff to

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<v Speaker 2>the mom me and my friends. I would always be

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<v Speaker 2>the last one to get ready because I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else's her make up.

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<v Speaker 4>This stuff they used to rush me.

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<v Speaker 1>Janetta was super smart and a driven young woman. She

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<v Speaker 1>graduated high school early at just sixteen years old. Right

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<v Speaker 1>after graduation, Janetta started school at Sullivan University, studying to

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<v Speaker 1>be a paralegal. She had planned to work for the

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<v Speaker 1>Prosecutor's office. Around this time, she met Michael.

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<v Speaker 2>I met him just in the neighborhood, like my best friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Her and her mom had lived in these apartments, and

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<v Speaker 2>he lived in the apartments next to where they lived

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<v Speaker 2>at Planis.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Adolphe, who went by Michael, was from Haiti. He

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<v Speaker 1>worked as a cab driver.

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<v Speaker 4>He was nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he was cool. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael and Janetta started dating even though he was twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years older than she was.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I had already graduated high school. I really

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<v Speaker 2>went into dudes my age, and I know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care about y'all judging me America, because let me tell

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<v Speaker 2>y'all something, right now, Okay, let's get this straight. Okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that is part of my story. I don't care what

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<v Speaker 2>y'all think, how y'all feel about it, because every single

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<v Speaker 2>teenager has something that they do to rebel against their parents. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>some teenagers still stuff, maybe some still cars do whatever. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I just liked oda dudes.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite their age difference, Janetta and Michael had a great relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>They had fun together, and Janetta says that he was

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<v Speaker 1>a kind and generous man.

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<v Speaker 2>We was two individuals that connected and liked each other.

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<v Speaker 1>On the night of October twenty second, two thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 1>about two months into their relationship, Michael had friends over

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<v Speaker 1>at his apartment to play dominoes. Janetta was spending the

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<v Speaker 1>night at a friend's house for a sleepover party. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you remember about that night?

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember me and my friends. We was doing

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<v Speaker 2>her We was doing you know, makeup. We was watching videos,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, slapping, eating snacks. At just a normal night, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>But the next morning would be anything but normal. Around

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<v Speaker 1>nine am, a neighbor called the police to report that

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<v Speaker 1>someone was collapsed in front of their apartment building.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>He had been strangled, apparently with an electrical cord from

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<v Speaker 1>a fan that was wrapped around his neck. His feet

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<v Speaker 1>were bound with duct tape. Michael's wallet and cell phone

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<v Speaker 1>were missing, and in his pocket was a Growl restore

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<v Speaker 1>receipt timestamped ten forty seven pm the night before. His

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<v Speaker 1>cab was later found a few miles away, ransacked and abandoned,

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<v Speaker 1>with the stereo missing. Sometime after Michael left the grocery

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<v Speaker 1>store that night, he had been robbed and violently murdered.

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<v Speaker 1>When did you find out that Michael was killed?

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen it on the news. It was crazy and

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<v Speaker 2>scary and horrible and like unbelievable about who could have

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<v Speaker 2>done it because he didn't have, you know, no like

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<v Speaker 2>enemies that I knew of, because he was such a

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<v Speaker 2>sweet person. So I was like, why would somebody do this?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Who would do this?

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<v Speaker 1>Janetta was heartbroken and things were about to get worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Two and a half months later, Janetta was at her

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<v Speaker 1>friend's house when investigators came looking for her.

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<v Speaker 2>They showed up in my best friend's house, who I

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<v Speaker 2>was sleep next to the night that the crime happened.

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<v Speaker 2>They showed up at her house and a detective Tony

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<v Speaker 2>Finch knocked on the door. Her mom was like, Janetta,

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<v Speaker 2>detective for a play you.

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<v Speaker 1>Detective Tony Finch was the lead investigator on the case,

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<v Speaker 1>and when Janetta came to the door, he took out

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<v Speaker 1>his handcuffs and arrested her for the murder of plunt

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<v Speaker 1>As Michael Adolphe. Then he brought her down to the precinct.

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<v Speaker 2>I was really confused. I didn't know why I was there,

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<v Speaker 2>what was going on. I just thought that I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to get to go home because I didn't do nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>So I was scared. I was everything any emotion you

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<v Speaker 2>can think of. I was angry, you know, was it

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<v Speaker 2>like registering?

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<v Speaker 1>Like were you processing like, oh, they think I did this. No,

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<v Speaker 1>even though Kentucky laws his police must notify my nurse

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<v Speaker 1>parents before questioning them. Janetta was interrogated alone by Sergeant

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<v Speaker 1>James Hellinger and lead Detective Tony Finch. She says Detective

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<v Speaker 1>Finch was extremely harsh with her.

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<v Speaker 2>When I asked for my mom, he told me that

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<v Speaker 2>it was not a girl Scouts meeting, that my mom

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<v Speaker 2>was not allowed to come down there.

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<v Speaker 1>Janetta says he threatened her, calling her a murderer, a bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>and a whore.

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<v Speaker 2>He asked me if I was in a gang. He

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<v Speaker 2>tell me he had people that placed me at the

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<v Speaker 2>scene and that he knew that I was guilty. He

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<v Speaker 2>told me that I was a danger and threat to

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<v Speaker 2>society and that he didn't want me on his f

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<v Speaker 2>and streets and that I was going to prison for

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<v Speaker 2>f and live.

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<v Speaker 1>The interrogation went on for over eleven hours. Janetta maintained

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<v Speaker 1>her innocence the entire time. She was sure she would

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<v Speaker 1>soon be released to go home, but that didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I went straight from the interrogation room. They took me

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<v Speaker 2>in his highway. They started taking pictures of me and

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<v Speaker 2>had me held up its number, and then they yet

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<v Speaker 2>they sent me shirt to j c Wise. The same

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<v Speaker 2>night I got boked into j CYS.

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<v Speaker 1>J c Yse is the Jefferson County Youth Detention Center.

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<v Speaker 1>Janetta's mother, Larinda, had no idea what had happened. How

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<v Speaker 1>did you find out?

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<v Speaker 5>My neighbor, Miss Pete, let me use her phone for

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<v Speaker 5>any type of situation that I may have, and she

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<v Speaker 5>came and knocked on my door and told me that

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<v Speaker 5>Jace Wyse wanted me on the phone. I had ma Pajamazone.

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<v Speaker 5>It was about seven forty five, eight o'clock in the morning.

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<v Speaker 5>I ran out the back door. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 5>I left the back door open when I went to

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<v Speaker 5>her house and got on the phone. The lady from

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<v Speaker 5>j C Wysse told me that they were holding Johanetta

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<v Speaker 5>on some conspiracy to murder and manslaughter and that she

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<v Speaker 5>had to be in court that morning at eight thirty.

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<v Speaker 5>I just couldn't believe it, you know, because the Johanetta

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<v Speaker 5>that I know is not capable of that type of thing.

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<v Speaker 5>And I knew that she didn't do it. I knew

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<v Speaker 5>she was innocent.

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<v Speaker 1>Janetta had a rock solid alibi. Over half a dozen

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<v Speaker 1>people had been at that sleepover, but detectives had their

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<v Speaker 1>sights set on her.

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<v Speaker 4>For the first time.

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't tell her this is it's gonna be okay,

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<v Speaker 5>It's going to be all right. You know, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be fine. We're going to get through this, because I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't know if we were going to get through this.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't know what was going to happen, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And I could see her she was trying to be strong,

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<v Speaker 5>because I guess she was trying to be strong for me,

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<v Speaker 5>and I was trying to be strong for her. And

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't want her to see me cry because I

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<v Speaker 5>knew if she had saw me cry, she would have

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<v Speaker 5>been more upset than she already was, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>want to inflict any more pain on her.

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<v Speaker 1>What Janetta didn't know was that while she was left

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<v Speaker 1>confused and alone in juvenile jail, detectives were building an

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<v Speaker 1>entire case against her. A few weeks before Janetta was arrested,

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<v Speaker 1>detectives had interrogated a friend who was also at the sleepover.

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<v Speaker 1>To protect the identities of these individuals, we'll call this friend, Carrie,

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<v Speaker 1>Detective Finch had arrested nineteen year old Carrie on a

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<v Speaker 1>bench warrant for shoplifting. While in custody, he interrogated her

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<v Speaker 1>about Michael Adolphe's murder. Carrie said there was no way

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<v Speaker 1>Janetta was involved. They were together all night. Carrie said

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<v Speaker 1>that she and a few other friends, including one we'll

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<v Speaker 1>call Kyle, drove around that night. They stopped at White

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<v Speaker 1>Castle for some food before going back to Kyle's house

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<v Speaker 1>for a sleepover with a bigger group of people. Janetta

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<v Speaker 1>never left the house by herself that night, but Finch

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<v Speaker 1>ran with that and started implicating both Carrie and Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>in the murder as well. Finch told Carrie he'd help

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<v Speaker 1>her with her shoplifting charges if she would repeat the

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<v Speaker 1>story he wanted to hear. After about ten hours of interrogation,

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<v Speaker 1>Carrie broke down and repeated Finch's false narrative that she, Kyle,

0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:59.079
<v Speaker 1>and Janetta killed Michael quickly, though Carrie recanted and again

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<v Speaker 1>maintained that she knew nothing about the murder, but it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't matter. Finch arrested her anyway. Kyle was also interrogated

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<v Speaker 1>by detectives about the murder, and he too was eventually arrested.

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<v Speaker 1>Carrie and Kyle were nineteen years old, technically adults, but

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<v Speaker 1>Janetta was only sixteen. She was initially charged as a juvenile,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was later indicted as an adult. Among Janetta's

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<v Speaker 1>charges first degree murder. The weight of everything that was

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<v Speaker 1>happening was too much for Janetta to process, and while

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<v Speaker 1>she was in the juvenile detention center.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll try to kill myself.

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<v Speaker 1>After her suicide attempt, Janetta was transferred to Our Lady

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<v Speaker 1>of Peace Hospital. She was diagnosed with clinical depression and

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<v Speaker 1>put on medication.

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<v Speaker 2>So they started give me these pills I was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to take, and I would have the pels in my

0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.480
<v Speaker 2>cheek because I still wanted to to kill myself because

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<v Speaker 2>I was that hopeless from being incarcerated for a crime

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't commit, having nothing to do with. So I

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<v Speaker 2>took all these pills one night that I had been

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<v Speaker 2>saving that I wasn't taken, and like two o'clock in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning, I get a tap on my arm and

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<v Speaker 2>it's this lady stand in front of me. She got

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<v Speaker 2>on an all white nurses outfit. She had like caramel

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<v Speaker 2>skin short her. She just kept touching me, saying, everything's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be okay, It's okay, sweetie. The next day I

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<v Speaker 2>started asking the staff members, you know who she was, like,

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<v Speaker 2>because I wanted to thank her, you know, because I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like she honestly saved my life. And they was like,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know her. Nobody works here. The person you're

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<v Speaker 2>describing doesn't work, And I thought she was an angel.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon after that experience, Janetta reached out to her mom

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<v Speaker 1>and told her about taking the pills.

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<v Speaker 5>And to the hospital and set with her and just

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<v Speaker 5>held her hand, you know, and told her, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so sorry that this has happened to you. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>so sorry that you're going through this, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>you sitting in his jael Syal day after day, minute

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<v Speaker 5>at the minute, you know, and you see people going

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<v Speaker 5>home and you're still sitting here for something that you

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<v Speaker 5>didn't do. I probably would have took my life to

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<v Speaker 5>you know, but I know that God has a purpose

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<v Speaker 5>for everybody's life, and I just felt like God had

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<v Speaker 5>a lot for her to do down here, and he

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't ready for her to go yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, instead of probing other angles, like analyzing the evidence

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<v Speaker 1>at the murder scene or pursuing other potential suspects, Detective

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<v Speaker 1>Finch was hell bent on closing the case.

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<v Speaker 3>He would do whatever he needed to do to get

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<v Speaker 3>a conviction.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Suzanne Hopp, directing attorney of the Kentucky in

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<v Speaker 1>a Since project. They represented Janetta in her post conviction efforts.

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<v Speaker 3>The final sort of nail in the coffin there is

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<v Speaker 3>that there was a jailhouse informant that was used against Janetta.

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<v Speaker 1>After Janetta turned eighteen, she was transferred from juvenile detention

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<v Speaker 1>to an adult jail, and an informant who lived in

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<v Speaker 1>the cell next door, Laurie Deckard, said that Janetta confessed

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<v Speaker 1>to her. According to Laurie, Janetta told her she was

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<v Speaker 1>mad at Michael, and so she, Carrie and Kyle went

0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.520
<v Speaker 1>to his apartment and robbed and murdered him. Detectives got

0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:40.359
<v Speaker 1>statements from other jailhouse informants implicating Kyle and Carrie as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but they still had a problem the other people at

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<v Speaker 1>the sleepover, Janetta had a solid alibi, So detective Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Lawson interrogated Janetta's best friend, whom we'll call Britney. Brittany

0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.000
<v Speaker 1>said she was with Janetta all night. They slept on

0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the couch together and fell asleep under the same blanket.

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<v Speaker 2>She told him that Johnetta did not do this, she

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<v Speaker 2>was snaxting me.

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<v Speaker 1>Sleep that night, but laws In dismissed her account. Instead,

0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.679
<v Speaker 1>he fabricated a report saying Brittany told him she was

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<v Speaker 1>a heavy sleeper and couldn't say whether or not Janetta

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<v Speaker 1>had left the house. Even with all their alleged evidence

0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:21.360
<v Speaker 1>against Janetta, Carrie, and Kyle, detectives were still hell bent

0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.360
<v Speaker 1>on getting one of the three to flip on the others.

0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:29.360
<v Speaker 3>They were relentless. They just kept going after all three

0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:34.080
<v Speaker 3>co defendants and repeatedly questioning them. What the police were

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<v Speaker 3>doing was they were telling all three co defendants that

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<v Speaker 3>if all of you don't admit to this crime and

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<v Speaker 3>enter into guilty please, and we're going to try one

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<v Speaker 3>of the adults under the death penalty.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember Kyle and Carrie were both nineteen.

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<v Speaker 3>That was sort of like the ultimate, the end point

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<v Speaker 3>where these three individuals were thinking about their friends and

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<v Speaker 3>somebody facing the death penalty.

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<v Speaker 1>With this life or death situation looming over the trio,

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<v Speaker 1>the state offered them a plea bargain called an Alfred plea,

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<v Speaker 1>and Alfred plea is a deal with the state or

0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.919
<v Speaker 1>defendants plead guilty for a lesser sentence, but are allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to maintain their innocence. Prosecutors told them they would only

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<v Speaker 1>accept the plea deal if all three pled guilty, so

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<v Speaker 1>they did. On April fourteenth, two thousand and eight. Janetta

0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:29.200
<v Speaker 1>took the deal and pled guilty to evidence tampering, two

0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:33.919
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy charges, and second degree manslaughter. She was sentenced to

0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:38.119
<v Speaker 1>twenty years in prison. So how did it feel to

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<v Speaker 1>take a plea saying, you know, I'm innocent, but I

0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:45.560
<v Speaker 1>recognize all of this evidence because you know it's not

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<v Speaker 1>real evidence.

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<v Speaker 3>What did that feel like?

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<v Speaker 2>I literally felt like I had no other choice because

0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:59.399
<v Speaker 2>at that point I was just helpless. Just know that

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<v Speaker 2>I was not the Johnetta then that I am now,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I went educated about the law and thinking

0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:08.679
<v Speaker 2>they could arrest people for crimes they didn't committed.

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<v Speaker 1>While in prison, Janetta tried to stay as productive as possible.

0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:24.120
<v Speaker 2>I took computer classes, and I went to church a lot,

0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:28.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, swung in the choir, a lot, wrote letters,

0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:32.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot ate a lot too many noodles. I do

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<v Speaker 2>not eat noodles. No more, y'all cany, No, we're not.

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<v Speaker 3>Than.

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<v Speaker 1>What was that like to be around adults as a

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, at first, it was kind of scary because I

0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:52.400
<v Speaker 2>was thinking, oh, my guinness, these people are criminals, Like

0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:54.919
<v Speaker 2>what am I gonna do? But actually I met a

0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.840
<v Speaker 2>bunch of beautiful women from all different walks of life,

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<v Speaker 2>and they was really lights to me. You know. We

0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:02.960
<v Speaker 2>gave each other hope because there was nothing else we

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<v Speaker 2>could do. I think I went through every emotion that

0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:12.439
<v Speaker 2>a parent could go through. I got frustrated, I got angry,

0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:15.480
<v Speaker 2>I got upset, I cried because you know, there were.

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<v Speaker 4>No resources available, and it.

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<v Speaker 5>Was just a horrible, horrible, horrible thing to go through

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<v Speaker 5>for anybody. I think one of the hardest parts for

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<v Speaker 5>me was having to explain to Johanetta's nieces and nephews

0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:29.800
<v Speaker 5>that we didn't know when she was going to come

0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:32.040
<v Speaker 5>home because Johnette is very close to them and they

0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:34.960
<v Speaker 5>love her, you know. And then they're crying and I'm crying,

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<v Speaker 5>and we're all trying to make some sense out of this,

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<v Speaker 5>and we still can't make any sense out of it

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<v Speaker 5>as it stands today.

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<v Speaker 1>About a year or so after her conviction, and Janetta

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<v Speaker 1>was called into the prison office.

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<v Speaker 2>Surprised me because I didn't know why I was getting

0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:08.520
<v Speaker 2>called in her because I didn't get in any trouble

0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:11.680
<v Speaker 2>while I was, you know, incarcerated, so I didn't know

0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:13.040
<v Speaker 2>why I was getting called in there.

0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:17.040
<v Speaker 1>When she walked in, Laurie Deckard, the jail house snitch,

0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:20.919
<v Speaker 1>was there, and she admitted that during the investigation the

0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:24.520
<v Speaker 1>police told her to lie about Janetta and say she confessed.

0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:29.119
<v Speaker 2>Because I'm like, okay, you're saying this now, why didn't

0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:32.080
<v Speaker 2>you say that, you know a long time ago? Like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm basically, you're a part of this. You're a part

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<v Speaker 2>of the fabricated evidence and part of the reason why

0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:41.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm here. It is her fault because she didn't have

0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:44.240
<v Speaker 2>to lie. But when you really think about the jail

0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:48.800
<v Speaker 2>house snitches. The system actually puts them in situations, you

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:52.320
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. So really the detectives on my

0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:54.280
<v Speaker 2>case is responsible for that.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and nine, after serving four years of

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty year sentence, Janetta was eligible for parole. She

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<v Speaker 1>was granted time served for the time she spent in

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<v Speaker 1>the juvenile detention facility and was released from prison.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a joy and of blessing to see her

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:16.320
<v Speaker 5>after not being able to see her for so many years,

0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:18.840
<v Speaker 5>and being able to see her was you know, I

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.119
<v Speaker 5>was in at mowhere. I didn't want to let it go.

0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:22.320
<v Speaker 5>She used to tell me all the time, when my

0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:24.240
<v Speaker 5>mama go, miss Peties. I'd be like, no, I want

0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:25.200
<v Speaker 5>you to stay in the house.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want you to go nowhere.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I think I kind of wented to a

0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:32.960
<v Speaker 5>mother overload, but I think I kind of had a

0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:35.040
<v Speaker 5>rite to at everything that she had been through. I

0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:36.920
<v Speaker 5>just wanted to keep her as close to me as

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<v Speaker 5>I possibly could.

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<v Speaker 1>Although she was home, Janetta's journey wasn't over. She was

0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:48.720
<v Speaker 1>physically free, but people on parole are still under scrutinous

0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 1>state control. Janetta had to do random check ins and

0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 1>drug tests and even had to pay a monthly twenty

0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:58.960
<v Speaker 1>five dollars fee. She also had to maintain a job,

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<v Speaker 1>which wasn't eat because of her record of incarceration.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would go in jobs, you know, and they

0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:06.920
<v Speaker 2>would be like, you know, you seem like a great

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 2>person everything, but your background, you know. And I went

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 2>in like ten jobs a day sometimes, and I was

0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 2>living with my mom at the time, and I would

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:18.200
<v Speaker 2>just go home and I would just bother to her.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I started doing research and found fault that it's

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<v Speaker 2>estimated in America with ten thousand people get falsely convict

0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:28.679
<v Speaker 2>her of crimes they didn't committe each year. And my

0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 2>heart was just like, uh, they doing this to other

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:33.120
<v Speaker 2>people too. I know how this feels. And I had

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:35.200
<v Speaker 2>not heard nobody talking about it.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, I asked her one day, I said,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm so angry. And I asked, I said,

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<v Speaker 5>how come you're not mad? She said, my mom, don't

0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:48.160
<v Speaker 5>I'm not gonna be angry. I'm not gonna be mad.

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.200
<v Speaker 5>She said, what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna fight. I'm

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 5>gonna fight, she said, because I didn't do this and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm innocent.

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<v Speaker 2>I started to go to the Plasma center and donate plasma.

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:01.080
<v Speaker 2>And it was a foun dollar right next to the

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<v Speaker 2>plasma center, and I would take the money from plasma,

0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 2>go to family Dollar, get posts to border markers, and

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:08.359
<v Speaker 2>I would make signs trying to write his awareness for

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:10.879
<v Speaker 2>wrongful convictions, and I would just started walking around, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my city.

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<v Speaker 1>Holding At the same time, Janetta was also trying to

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 1>get off parole and still working to prove her innocence.

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I would look up numbers, you know, for like innocent projects,

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:25.960
<v Speaker 2>people who helped innocent I would just google it, and

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:28.680
<v Speaker 2>I would you know, call and lead messages on different

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 2>people's voicemails and stuff, still trying to find help.

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Finally, almost a decade after her release, the Kentucky Innocence

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Project agreed to help Janetta fight for her exoneration.

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<v Speaker 3>So when we inherited the case in twenty eighteen, we

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<v Speaker 3>started doing the record review and attempting to find individuals

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 3>to interview. And then shortly after getting the case, we

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 3>received news that we were getting a DNA testing grant

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:00.440
<v Speaker 3>from the Department of Justice.

0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Janetta would finally get a chance to test the evidence,

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:06.960
<v Speaker 1>specifically the duct tape and the electrical cord that were

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 1>found on Michael Adolphe's body to see if there was

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:11.880
<v Speaker 1>a DNA match with the actual perpetrator.

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<v Speaker 3>If we could get a hit on something in the

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 3>national database and CODIS, it would then build a stronger

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 3>case for Janetta. Obviously we would have been able to

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<v Speaker 3>locate who had actually killed the victim.

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<v Speaker 1>And during its investigation, the Kentucky Innocence Project discovered bombshell

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<v Speaker 1>information that had never been disclosed to Janetta or her

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<v Speaker 1>attorneys all those years ago. First off, it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>that DNA testing had been conducted on the case back

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and six. While it didn't point to

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<v Speaker 1>someone else as the perpetrator, it did indicate that neither

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<v Speaker 1>Janetta nor her co defendants could have committed the murder.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only that, the Kentucky Innocence Project discovered that there

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<v Speaker 1>were viable alternative suspects who were ever properly investigated. Who

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<v Speaker 1>is Steve Lewis.

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<v Speaker 3>He should have been a person of interest. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the police should have pursued a very deep investigation into

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<v Speaker 3>mister Lewis.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Lewis was an acquaintance of Michaels and in the

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<v Speaker 1>early days of the investigation officers got a tip from

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of Michael's who said he had seen Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis and Michael in a heated argument over a girl,

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<v Speaker 1>and that during the fight, Steve threatened to kill Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>When he was questioned by police, Steve denied involvement, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was unable to provide an alibi for his whereabounds

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<v Speaker 1>around the time of the murder. Yet, for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>the investigation into Steve ended. Finally, phone records showed that

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<v Speaker 1>someone was using Michael's phone after his death. There were

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<v Speaker 1>calls made to Los Angeles and to Florida, and again

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<v Speaker 1>the police never followed up. Instead, they went after sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old Janetta and her friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh. I think the state offered her an offered plea

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<v Speaker 3>because they knew she would go to trial and they

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<v Speaker 3>had questions about the strength of their case. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the case had been pending long enough that the prosecutor

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to get some closure on it. They knew that

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<v Speaker 3>they had some problems with their case, that if they

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<v Speaker 3>went to trial they might not get a conviction.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think if you went to trial you might

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<v Speaker 1>have won?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably? So I can't think about it and the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why I can't think about it because it brings back

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<v Speaker 2>so much pain. I'm trying to be a light in

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<v Speaker 2>the world, so I can't think about these things. I

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<v Speaker 2>just had to move with purpose and take the pain

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<v Speaker 2>that I've been through and make it. My purpose is

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<v Speaker 2>to make legislation for the next generations so that people

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<v Speaker 2>don't get wrongly convicted and so that my children don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to go through what I went through. Johnetta doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be angry, you know what I'm saying. Johnetta

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't want to be better. Johnetta doesn't want to be bad.

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<v Speaker 2>And Johnetta is not going to be the Commonwealth of

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky's victim because they already took too many years of

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<v Speaker 2>my life. So I don't think about these things. I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>The Kentucky Innocence Project also applied for a pardon for Janetta,

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<v Speaker 1>and on December ninth, twenty nineteen, Kentucky Governor Matthew Bevin

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<v Speaker 1>pardoned her based on her actual innocence.

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<v Speaker 2>The Governor called me and he actually apologized. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to apologize to you for what the Commonwealth

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<v Speaker 2>did to you, and we actually cried.

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<v Speaker 1>However, the pardon left Janetta in a strange situation. The

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky state statuted for DNA testing says that a person

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<v Speaker 1>must be under state supervision to qualify for testing.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's very unfortunate because we think that there is

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<v Speaker 3>biological material on the evidence that was collected, the evidence

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<v Speaker 3>still exists, we would like to test it.

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<v Speaker 1>If that DNA isn't tested, Michael's true killer may never

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<v Speaker 1>be known.

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<v Speaker 3>If indeed there is a person out there that killed

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<v Speaker 3>the victim and that they're still out there, they may

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<v Speaker 3>still be doing the same thing to other people. The

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<v Speaker 3>public is certainly at greater risk to not have that

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<v Speaker 3>DNA testing get done.

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<v Speaker 1>Janetta is also not eligible for any kind of wrongful

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<v Speaker 1>conviction compensation because Kentucky is one of the twelve states

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<v Speaker 1>that do not have compensation laws for xoneries.

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<v Speaker 2>But somebody needs has to start being held accountable when

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<v Speaker 2>wrongful convictions happen. I'm so discussed it and appalled at

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<v Speaker 2>the justice system in Kentucky and what they are using

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<v Speaker 2>and spending our tax dollars on. And when you think

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<v Speaker 2>about it, you know, it's like a slap in the

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<v Speaker 2>face that money and those resources could be used for

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<v Speaker 2>so many other things, like we have a homelessness problem

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<v Speaker 2>in Louil of Like, there's literally veterans at her who's

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<v Speaker 2>happened to choose right now in between groceries and medicine.

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<v Speaker 2>And they went to war and fought for this country.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're spending tax money to pay for civil litigation

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<v Speaker 2>calls and defenses to defend publice officers and detectives who

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<v Speaker 2>normally breach a duty to wrongfully convict people by falsifying evidence,

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<v Speaker 2>coherts and testimony and how DNA. That's a big issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Janetta is now represented by the Exoneration Project and the

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<v Speaker 1>national civil rights firm Lov and Lov. She's also a

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<v Speaker 1>mother to two children, one year old Royalty and six

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<v Speaker 1>year old Jakari, and she's again pursuing one of her

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<v Speaker 1>early dreams. She's back in paralegal school, but this time

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't want to work in the prosecutor's office. She

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<v Speaker 1>wants to help prevent and write wrongful convictions.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on a journey. I'm healing me. Being wrongfully convicted

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<v Speaker 2>something I will live with and it's going to impact

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<v Speaker 2>my life for the rest of my life. However, I

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<v Speaker 2>choose not to make that my entire life. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>really really focused on my purpose right now. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I need to do on life as far as

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<v Speaker 2>bring and change, you know, and raising my kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just trying to heal and become a better me every

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<v Speaker 2>day is all vall.

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<v Speaker 1>If you'd like to help others who have been wrongfully convicted,

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<v Speaker 1>Janetta recommends supporting the organizations I Am Resilience and the

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<v Speaker 1>Chandler Project in Kentucky House Bill six ninety one. Janetta

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<v Speaker 1>also has a GoFundMe to help raise travel expenses for

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<v Speaker 1>exoneries attending the Innocence Conference. There will be links to

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<v Speaker 1>all of this in our bio. Next time, on Wrongful

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<v Speaker 1>Conviction with Maggie Freeling, Hope White, do you think there

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<v Speaker 1>was police corruption in your case?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, there was a loss of police corruption.

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<v Speaker 3>In that case.

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