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Speaker 2: Good mornings. We were then welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 4: Great Mother's day gift, that's what I've heard.

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Speaker 2: A good call TSK good call.

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Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna get into good reminder for us order.

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Speaker 2: Today, but hey, it's this weekend, right. Yeah. We will

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Speaker 2: get into a little NBA news a little bit later,

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Speaker 2: but we start with the playoffs and some good ones

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Speaker 2: again last night. Start with the late game, Lakers rallying

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Speaker 2: past the Warriors one oh four, one oh one. They

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Speaker 2: take the three to one series lead. Is this the

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Speaker 2: end of the Warriors dynasty? But lots to unpack from

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Speaker 2: this game.

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Speaker 4: Lonnie Walker the Fourth? Who are you kidding me? A

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Speaker 4: fifteen point fourth quarter from Lannie Walker the Fourth? I

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Speaker 4: can guarantee there wasn't a Lakers Warriors preview that mentioned

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Speaker 4: that man's name. Not one, probably right. I thought I

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Speaker 4: was crazy mentioning Troy Brown's name.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was crazy.

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Speaker 4: It felt a little crazy. Nobody. I went and listened

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Speaker 4: to Lakers podcast, specifically Lakers podcast. No one mentioned Lannie

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Speaker 4: Walker the Fourth before this series. And I don't know

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Speaker 4: what the intangible thing Lebron does, but this is a

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Speaker 4: Lebron thing where he's got everybody in their role. It

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Speaker 4: started with Austin Reeves Game one against the Grizzlies, that

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Speaker 4: fourteen point fourth quarter, Ruyacha Mura had a great series.

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Speaker 4: Dennis Shrewder has had lots of moments. Dan Angel Russell

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Speaker 4: has lots of moments. This is a game where the

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Speaker 4: Warriors started Gary Payton the second, they went super small.

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Speaker 4: Lebron wasn't driving and taking advantage of that. Possession after

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Speaker 4: possession after possession. They just bided their time. The switch

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Speaker 4: really really worked, and in that fourth quarter where Gary

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Speaker 4: Payton the second probably didn't have enough minutes, he finished

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Speaker 4: with a great plugus. The Warriors decided to go with

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Speaker 4: Moses Moody and the guy who took over was literally

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Speaker 4: Lonnie Walker, and then the Warrior shots lectioning down the stretch.

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Speaker 4: We can get to. But the fact that we have here.

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Speaker 4: They went and got Malik Beasley at the trade deadline,

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Speaker 4: didn't play him. Darvin ham has touched everything perfectly. Is

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Speaker 4: at the end of the dynasty, Well, the Lakers have

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Speaker 4: the Warriors number. They just they weren't shooting properly at

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Speaker 4: the end. They weren't They weren't themselves at the end,

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Speaker 4: and you can see it. Lakers got the vibes.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason we didn't talk about Lonnie Walker the

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Speaker 2: fourth How did you get into this series? He played

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Speaker 2: fifteen total minutes against the Grizzlies. He didn't play in

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Speaker 2: game one of this series. He got into some garbage

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Speaker 2: guess darvinham saw something he liked, got some more minutes

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Speaker 2: Game four, and holy crap, did he take advantage of.

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Speaker 3: He was hitting some crazy the.

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Speaker 2: Big buckets in this one. Nearly outscored the Warriors by himself.

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Speaker 2: It was seventeen for the Warriors, fifteen for Lonnie Walker

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Speaker 2: the fourth in the final period. I thought he draw it.

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Speaker 2: He drew the huge illegal screen offensive foul there on

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Speaker 4: Illegal screens weird, a lot of illegal screen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't for that one. I definitely moved a

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Speaker 2: little too late. But Walker first Lakers bench player to

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Speaker 3: In any career, a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: Fourth quarter, any quarter tasks fifteen players, fifteen points for

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Speaker 3: We were doing a playback stream for game two, the blowout.

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Speaker 3: I remember saying, you want to stick around, see who

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Speaker 3: earned some minutes in garbage time. Nobody wanted to stick around.

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Speaker 3: Ronnie Walker had a decent game in game two. We

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Speaker 3: didn't even bring him up as a random positive from

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Speaker 3: He made that play where it's like a loose ball

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Speaker 3: and he outrun. Basically everybody finished the rim. I had

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Speaker 3: He took a bad shot, he had a turnover, but

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Speaker 3: Darvin Ham said, no, we're sticking with you, Lonnie because

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Speaker 3: you've got it rolling right now. Obviously, Russell wasn't playing

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Speaker 3: very well last night. He had won two games for

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Speaker 3: the Lakers in this series basically, but instead it was

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Speaker 3: the Lonnie Walker game. And he got to say a

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Speaker 3: lot of these baskets were on Stephan Curry. That was

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Speaker 3: another big part of this was Lebron hunting Steph Curry,

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Speaker 3: or if he couldn't get Curry on a switch, giving

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Speaker 3: it to Lonnie who did have Curry on a switch.

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Speaker 3: Just rising and shooting over the top. He had the

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Speaker 4: His name is Lonnie Walker. The fourth two come.

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Speaker 2: On in game four, Yeah, so he scriptwritersail.

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Speaker 4: There were really weird stuff there with the Warrior shots

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Speaker 4: then Curry missed that a very long jay as well

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Speaker 4: And you mentioned the fresh legs. You were sticking with

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Speaker 4: All twelve minutes and they went away from Gary Payton

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Speaker 2: It was sort of wild to see Darvin Ham and

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Speaker 2: know the hammer play that was coming with about fifteen

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Speaker 2: Lebron and ad knew exactly what they were doing. That's

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Speaker 2: gonna be a try and be a clay three pointer

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Speaker 2: Drake got up in the air, threw it away and

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Speaker 2: He falls down and instead of calling a timeout, which

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Speaker 2: they did have, and I wonder if he was in

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Speaker 2: From what happened obviously earlier, he just threw it over

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Speaker 3: I thought great play by Curry to get the tip

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Speaker 3: on the John Walter actually get the rebound. But I mean,

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Speaker 3: in that scenario, how much time was on the clock

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Speaker 3: when they even went for the jump ball, like five seconds.

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Speaker 3: He's probably thinking, I'm running out of time. I just

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Speaker 3: got to throw it near the three point line. Maybe

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Speaker 3: one and that scenario. But the Warriors were pretty bad

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Speaker 3: They went away from the pick and roll with Anthony

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Speaker 3: They were getting a good luck basically throughout the first half.

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Speaker 3: Only six times in the second half did Anthony Davis's

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Speaker 2: I mean, you said, Clay, who had had a rough,

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Speaker 2: like it felt like he had just hit five in

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Speaker 2: that's sort of how Clay sort of comes about the games. Like, well,

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Speaker 2: I missed that one. My next one will probably go in.

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Speaker 2: But that was a weird one. You saw sort of

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Speaker 2: Moody had picked up his dribble and then finally sort

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Speaker 2: the deep deep three. But like anyone else in particular,

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Speaker 2: or what Kerr did in terms of who played and

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Speaker 4: For well, I know people are questioning, well, Jamichael Green

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Speaker 4: had a good couple of games, you know, good moments.

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Speaker 4: As we were watching that Game two blowout, why didn't

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Speaker 4: he get more minutes? I thought Gary Payton the second

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Speaker 4: was phenomenal in his minutes, other than when he puked

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Speaker 4: Steve Kerr didn't want to use it time out then,

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Speaker 4: so Draymond Green threw it into the front row because

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Speaker 4: he thought Gary Payton would be coming up, you know,

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Speaker 4: and said he was going back and saying, hello, I

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Speaker 4: got vomited in my mouth. Can you please call a

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Speaker 4: time out? No weird, weird stuff. But he came back.

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Speaker 4: I thought, was he done?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: He came back. He had a great game, So I

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Speaker 3: played out of this series a little bit. Draymond had

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Speaker 3: but he's not a guy that you're worried about scoring.

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Speaker 2: And then from the Lakers side of things, you know,

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Speaker 2: So I'm just going to pull up three eighty contested it.

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Speaker 2: What's wild about the Lakers being up three to one,

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Speaker 2: Trey is, well, you haven't even here this morning really

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Speaker 2: talked about Lebron James, like all these other guys. It's

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Speaker 2: then all these other contributing factors. They're up three to one,

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Speaker 2: I feel like Lebron in playoff moments always splits a

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Speaker 2: The Lakers didn't miss a free throw. They went twenty

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Speaker 2: The free points man take them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's absolutely because they basically shot the same from

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Speaker 4: It was just Steph versus Lonnie and and try brings

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Speaker 4: Because this is the non Kevon Looney series. It hasn't

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Speaker 2: Uh, just looking ahead to game five, down three one?

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Speaker 3: Tray?

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Speaker 3: Maybe, well, if the Lakers rest their starters in game five, yes, that.

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Speaker 2: That's a bold.

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Speaker 3: And when that's the case, they kind of do go

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if it's against the Kings or the Warriors.

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Speaker 4: It's just amazing. Really, we all expected at least one

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Speaker 4: from everybody else. So that's the really, really shocking part.

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Speaker 4: I think when we were discussing this series, you thought, Okay,

434
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,880
Speaker 4: Anthony Davis is going to have to be the guy

435
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,359
Speaker 4: for at least a couple games. I'm monster, and he

436
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 4: has been definitely good enough. Obviously, they're up three to one,

437
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 4: but they're getting lots of contributions, so can't doubt this team.

438
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 2: What did you say on yesterday's podcast? Was it Tinsley

439
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 2: that came up with the two one theory?

440
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 3: Uh?

441
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,680
Speaker 2: And just to remind people that maybe weren't joining us yesterday,

442
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 2: the idea of two one one two wins from your

443
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 2: superstar player, one win from like your secondary player, and

444
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:29,920
Speaker 2: then one win from like.

445
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 3: A role player. Yeah.

446
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 2: So where the Lakers sitting then in this series? Right now?

447
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 2: Do we have a lebron game coming? Wouldn't that mean

448
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,920
Speaker 2: what it is? Have we had that?

449
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 3: Interesting? Okay, so this is the role player win obviously,

450
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 3: Lonnie Walker Anthony Davis thirty and twenty three, that's one

451
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 3: of your best player wins. I don't know, what are

452
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,879
Speaker 3: you saying for the blowout, there was a huge stretch

453
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 3: there in the second and third quarter where eighty and

454
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 3: Lebron were definitely dominating on that huge stretch. So maybe

455
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 3: you give that one to Lebron for putting his biggest

456
00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 3: imprint on the series.

457
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 2: I guess, okay, I'll buy that, or you can give it.

458
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 3: To Ad and then there's a Lebron game coming. I

459
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 3: don't know to throw back a little bit in this one.

460
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 2: That would be my concern. If you're a Warriors fans,

461
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 2: let's hear from you out there. You know, is this

462
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 2: a rap in Game five? This thing still scream seven

463
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 2: to you? Is that the Lakers no doubt winning? It?

464
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,679
Speaker 2: Is this the end of the Warriors dynasty? Blow it

465
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 2: all up? See you later, Jordan Poole, we're trading you.

466
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 2: What do you think. Let's hear from everybody any other

467
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 2: thoughts on this very entertaining game, or we'll move to

468
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 2: the other one.

469
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 4: Get back James Wiseman, I guess is their move. Boys

470
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 4: build a dynasty around James Wiseman. I get back Gary

471
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 4: Payton the second. That's their thing. I'll get back guys.

472
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 2: Miami Heat take a three to one lead, They hold

473
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,880
Speaker 2: off the Knicks for the one oh nine one oh

474
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 2: one victory in Game four Trey, it feels like the

475
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 2: story from this one was Miami on the offensive glass

476
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 2: thirteen overall, but seven in the fourth quarter in the

477
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: final period. There I wrote my notes the nixt too click,

478
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 2: they are stuck in mud. It felt like there were

479
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 2: three heat players to whatever, loose ball, whatever offensive rebound

480
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 2: before any Knicks player was even.

481
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 3: Moving towards it. But what were your takeaways from this one?

482
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 3: NIX one got nixed in this one. They got beat

483
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 3: up on the glass. Postgame, Julius Randall said, maybe they

484
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 3: want it more. Probably not what you want to hear

485
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 3: from one of your stars of the team who had

486
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 3: six turnovers and fouled out. And I don't know, call

487
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 3: this guy Trent Rezner because it feels like he's always

488
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 3: on a downward spiral. I'm telling you, when Randall is balling,

489
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 3: the guy looks like the happiest dude on Earth, and

490
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 3: the team looks like they have great vibes. And as

491
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 3: soon as he misses two shots in a row, I

492
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 3: would make another nine inch Nails reference. But I was

493
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 3: never a huge fan. Unfortunately. Nonetheless, ten dunks in this

494
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 3: one for Miami. Five of them came in the first quarter,

495
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 3: and it was just they were setting the tone out there.

496
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 3: Jimmy was the best player on the court, and then

497
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 3: all of the best role players happened to be for

498
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 3: the Miami Heat as well. I thought Caleb Martin was

499
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 3: incredible in this game, had that huge dunk in the

500
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 3: fourth quarter when Miami was kind of struggling to put

501
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 3: some baskets together. But it feels like the Knicks are

502
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 3: out of answers in this series because the answer would

503
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 3: be make some three pointers, and clearly that's just not

504
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 3: gonna happen. Maybe they get hot in Game five and

505
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 3: force a Game six, but that's really their only hope

506
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: is somehow getting hot and making twenty threes because the

507
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 3: heater in their heads like it's over at this point

508
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: to me, because it feels very much like the Knicks

509
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 3: versus the Calves, where the Knicks are like, if we miss,

510
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 3: we just get the ball back, and that's how the

511
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 3: Heat feel right now.

512
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what It's hard to believe that this is

513
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: the same Knix team that dominated the Calves on the

514
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: glass and now the exact opposite feels like it's happening,

515
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 2: because I know when you look at the actual rebounding

516
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 2: numbers throughout the series, it's pretty damn close. But in

517
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: this game, and at more times than not, it's Miami

518
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: just outworking them, sort of like I think Randall's right,

519
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 2: they do want it more, man, that's what appears watching

520
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: the game. I ain't good to hear from your player,

521
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 2: star player, But what'd you take away from this one test?

522
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, the Knicks if you look at their scoring

523
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 4: numbers from their stars, they should have won this game.

524
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 4: If you look at Brunson dropping thirty two points on

525
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 4: ten to twenty one shooting, Randall twenty points on eight

526
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 4: of thirteen shooting, Barrett nine of sixteen shooting for twenty

527
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 4: four points. Fine, all great, they had hit their first

528
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 4: ten of fifteen shots in this game. That's incredible for

529
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 4: a next team. But they were still down because they

530
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 4: didn't win it around the margins. They didn't do the

531
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 4: little things in this game. Even though they were scoring.

532
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 4: It was incredible that they were shooting sixty sven percent

533
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 4: and they're still down to start this game. They gave

534
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 4: it away five times early. Gabe Vincent just just thrown

535
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 4: in there and doing a kind of a Jose Alvarado

536
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 4: to squeeze one from Quentin Grimes and then stole another

537
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 4: one from Quentin Grimes thirty feet from the bucket, and

538
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 4: then the Knicks started to slow down. That pace wasn't

539
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 4: going to keep up, and Emmanuel quickly not being in

540
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 4: this game because of an ankle injury, hurt them when

541
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,959
Speaker 4: they went to the bench. And so, yeah, the rebounds,

542
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 4: even though if you look at you look at the stats,

543
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 4: I mean they really was really really similar shooting. They're

544
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 4: they're shooting fifty three percent from the floor of the

545
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 4: next word, they're shooting forty percent from three going into

546
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter, and they're down nine because of turnovers

547
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 4: and boards. Yeah, they didn't want it as much. It's

548
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 4: a it is. It's one of those things where you

549
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 4: lose game one and a team takes momentum, and that's

550
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 4: what's happened in this series. It's it's the same thing

551
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 4: that happened to the Cavs with the Knicks, and they

552
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 4: just can't fight back and the Butler and friends are

553
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 4: in their head. For sure.

554
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 2: It did feel like though in this game, Game four,

555
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 2: where the Knicks are down to one in the series

556
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: that it felt like the heat were down to one

557
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: with the way like they were playing and obviously going

558
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: for those rebounds. And Randall is one of the league's

559
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: best rebounders, like I checked, he finished ninth in the NBA.

560
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: He averaged ten boards per game. Does he ever grab

561
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: like a big one though, Like I'm serious, Like it

562
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like it to me, like the ones you

563
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: really damn need to stop the bleeding or whatever. It's like, Oh,

564
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: I didn't not last night, of course, because those all

565
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: went to Miami. And I thought Mitchell Robinson got cooked

566
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: by Bam in this game too. I thought big time

567
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: early it was apparent they got a really good BAM game, Mitchell.

568
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: I mean you talk about like body language two was rough.

569
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 2: They had that that rough sequence in the first quarter

570
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 2: turnover in the back court the Knicks had it led

571
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: to a Bam dunk after a couple rebounds, then Randall

572
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: missed a rushed three and then Struce hit a three

573
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 2: in transition. I was like, oh boy, at the start

574
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 2: of the third quarter, we had two Knicks players bobbling

575
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: the ball out of out of bounds on a rebound,

576
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 2: like they couldn't even like say mine, They're like, at

577
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: least they were fighting for it, I guess, but with

578
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: each other. Unfortunately. Just like things like that, I thought

579
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 2: the audio assist segment with from Tims, I thought he

580
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: sounded tired. Guys just sounded like, oh no, we can't

581
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: beat this team. They just want it more than us.

582
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: That was like, I know, I was like, come on, Tims,

583
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: where's the fight man?

584
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 3: Even Eagle at one point on the broadcast said, this

585
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: is not a replay. That's the same story over and

586
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: over again.

587
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 4: Not good.

588
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 3: The Knicks led two possessions in Miami thirty three total seconds.

589
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 4: Wow.

590
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: Wow, Jimmy Butler had a great game. I thought half

591
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: of his buckets were way too easy though, very little

592
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: resistance and good ball movement from Miami in this game,

593
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: there are a couple of really good possessions where four

594
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: or five guys were touching it. Twenty eight assists, forty

595
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: field goals made The bench unit another great game from

596
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 2: Miami led by Lowry, who I loved here in Jim

597
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: Jackson call a future Hall of Famer. Good on you,

598
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 2: Jim start pushing that but he started three for three

599
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 2: throm on the floor and that entire unit was playing well,

600
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: just like they did in Game three. I think they

601
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: had seventeen points in the first half.

602
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 4: Heck of a flop there, Lowry. He did his job.

603
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 4: He did it extremely well. Real high hair on Kyle

604
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 4: Lowry through he's going with high hair. I've never seen

605
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 4: Lowry does Heywood high hair. Heywood high Smith also have

606
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 4: high hair.

607
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: You're really noticing a lot of haircuts.

608
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 4: In this watching a lot of games.

609
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 3: Said he brought up Booker yesterday.

610
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 4: Lowry say, you're right about Yeah, the Suns are, they're

611
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 4: doing the hockey. Let's grow some playoff beards. Also, Campaign

612
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 4: never had a beard, No way, it's got a beard now.

613
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 4: Landry Shammitt never.

614
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 3: Had a beard, that's true.

615
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 4: Is a Jay Skeets it've been bald for his whole career.

616
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 4: Then Boom pulls it out here. Yeah, along with Devin Booker.

617
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 4: I'll be surprised if Devin Booker comes in with a

618
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 4: haircut in game five. I don't think so. It's really

619
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 4: grown in so Lowry high hair. But the Yeah, the

620
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,479
Speaker 4: Knicks unfortunately in this one. Yeah, Butler getting to the line.

621
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 4: But you know they're just getting out played, They're getting

622
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 4: out out hustled and yeah, you mentioned like the goofball

623
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 4: move where the two guys run into each other. I

624
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 4: thought the Quentin Grimes start first time in the series,

625
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 4: maybe a little too late. It worked. They had space

626
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 4: out there, even if he wasn't hitting a ton of shots.

627
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 4: He hit three threes, but they had space. And you

628
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 4: saw Randall going at Max Strew's when they got that matchup.

629
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, just you can't give away games because then

630
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 4: you have these games where the little things don't go

631
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 4: your way. And good night, Irene.

632
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: Any other notes from the heat going up three to one,

633
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: you said it's over TK.

634
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: I mean, surely New York could force a game six,

635
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 3: but I don't necessarily know that Madison Square Garden is

636
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 3: a home court advantage. People get too excited to play there.

637
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 3: Like if you think about the best playoff moments in

638
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 3: MSG history, they're almost all opponent moments because it's a

639
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 3: huge stage and if you do it an MSG, it

640
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: matters more so. Jimmy Butler's gonna have forty plus in

641
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: game five minutes over?

642
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably, I don't see. The Nicks don't have life,

643
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: so I don't know if Starks and Mellow and whoever

644
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 4: else is sitting course, Sid it's going to give it

645
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,719
Speaker 4: to them, can be got to go deep. It was

646
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 4: Tim Thomas is also there? Who else, Well, maybe Bernard

647
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 4: King gives them some was there for sure viewing? Yeah, yeah,

648
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 4: it seems like they got a second roster out there. Yeah,

649
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Speaker 4: they just haven't lived up to the moment here in

650
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 4: the second round. It just it doesn't feel like the

651
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 4: first round team. I know Tim's was a little quiet

652
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 4: that one point during the audio sist, but he was

653
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 4: also allowed early second Nicks were inbounding with ten seconds

654
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 4: left on the shock clock. They get the ball and

655
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 4: they do nothing shocklock violation and the ball just comes

656
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: up the other way and Tim's just, you know, just

657
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 4: Tibsy all flabbergast, and he said, run the fucking live.

658
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 4: They didn't do that. No, no, they didn't run it

659
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Speaker 4: on that possession. I don't know if it wasn't a

660
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 4: hard game either. He may have been a little deflated

661
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 4: going to the bench. There wasn't wasn't a lot of life.

662
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 4: You expect Mitchell, Mitchell, Robinson and Hart to be those

663
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 4: guys and they were not the heat. A lot of

664
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Speaker 4: c I often say these teams aren't playing to their capabilities.

665
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 4: And they're not Cavs didn't do it in a round one,

666
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 4: but the Heat a lot of credit to them for

667
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 4: just sucking the life out of both teams.

668
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: I thought this game could have easily been like a

669
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: twenty five point blowout for Miami. I will the Knicks

670
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: like they somehow had a counter to every little Heat run,

671
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: like they were sticking around a lot of it was

672
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: like sort of made threes and was like, whoa, Okay,

673
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: that was a big one. Oh that one they needed

674
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: out of the timeout, and it was like, oh, I

675
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: was like, are they actually going to tie.

676
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 4: This series up?

677
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: Because they were just staying within striking distance. But yeah,

678
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: it was just the offensive rebounds at the end. They

679
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: were getting stops. There were stops the Heat were missing,

680
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: but you have to finish the possession, and man like

681
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: every one of those just felt bigger and bigger because

682
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: I guess also in a series like this where not

683
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: all that easy, to score a seven point lead feels like, yeah,

684
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: it feels sort of like fourteen points where it's not

685
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: like bang bang bang bang bang, You're gonna get right

686
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: back into it.

687
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 4: Can go down to the heats. You just can't get

688
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 4: down to the heat because they played their asses off.

689
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so yeah. Miami up three to one, Lakers

690
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: up three to one. Both of these series could end

691
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: in five, but you tell us whether or not we

692
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: get a game six in either of them. Both teams

693
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: trying to survive on their home court on Wednesday night.

694
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: Let's take our first break when we come back. Whole

695
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: bunch of news from the NBA, including the All Rookie

696
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: team still go anywhere. Well, Tass is here, so you

697
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: already know this first bit of news. The NBA isn't

698
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: suspending nugget star Nicolo Jokic for Game five against the Suns.

699
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: League announced on Monday that it fined the Joker twenty

700
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars for his slate little push there of

701
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: Sun's owner Matt Ishbia in Game four while he was

702
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: trying to get the ball out of the crowd. But

703
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: he will be available to play tonight in Denver with

704
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: the series tide to.

705
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 4: Too improper contact, says du Mars. I'm fine with the

706
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 4: twenty five k. The only regrets I think will be

707
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Speaker 4: all the writers who wrote twenty five hundred words on

708
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Speaker 4: Jokic Ishpia. They're not going to like that. On their

709
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 4: resumes down the road. But I think he probably got

710
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 4: the clicks. Then they got the clicks because they pumped

711
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 4: it out, especially on the athletic It was very time

712
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 4: sensitive topic, so they pumped it out.

713
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Speaker 3: I think all sides happy. I guess.

714
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Speaker 2: I will say I'm a little surprised ishbia I didn't

715
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: get any sort of fine once Yokic got it announced that, but.

716
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 4: Flop it fine.

717
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: Well like yeah, I mean, I'm just shocked, but I

718
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: mean I don't care. And they should have just find

719
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: him because he's got the money, like I said. But anyway, Yeah,

720
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: this is great that they're not removing a superstar from

721
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: a pivotal game file.

722
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Speaker 3: Okay, good, excellent, full compliments of nuggets shall be playing.

723
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Speaker 3: I would like to see these two have a pregame

724
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: handshake before game file. Nice, let's play ball, not you

725
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: you do you sit and watch, I will play.

726
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: I wonder because it happened live during yesterday's podcast, did

727
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: Isa's tweet influence this at all? And and maybe the

728
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: speed at which they announced it after he sort of tweeted,

729
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: and then Dumars came out later and said, yeah, okay,

730
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: we're not We're not suspending him because there's as we said,

731
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: like I was like, hey, come.

732
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: On, well, look tweeted we don't want anybody being suspended

733
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: or fined. And he didn't get fined. That's didn't tweet

734
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: and he got fine.

735
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: Oh kids don't even have a Twitter account.

736
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: At I just want to say, I agree, no one

737
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: should be fine. Just throwing it out there, right right right.

738
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Well let's move on some other news from that

739
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 2: game tonight. Sun's guard Chris Paul he will not play

740
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: in Game five as he continues to recover from a

741
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: groin injury. Now. He appeared to suffer that injury with

742
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: about five minutes left in the third quarter of Game

743
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: two after going up for a defensive rebound. Kept him

744
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 2: out of the lineup in games three and four in Phoenix,

745
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: games they both win. Dare I ask the question, are

746
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: the Suns better without Chris Paul at least versus the

747
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: Nuggets in the series or is that insane?

748
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's insane. They played a lot better at home,

749
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 4: so I think there was that swing the supporting cast,

750
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: and Chris Paul hasn't been himself. He's played seven quarters.

751
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: He had one good one really where he was feeling

752
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 4: it where he was zipping around the one where he

753
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 4: got injured. He was coming on. He had an eight

754
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 4: point third quarter, then boom, he goes down. But they

755
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 4: need somebody to make shots, and it just helps that

756
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 4: they've got the best player in the playoffs right now,

757
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 4: Devin Booker. It's continues to continue to cook. Then they

758
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 4: had Landry Shammit's beard come in and help them. I

759
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 4: think that was the biggest difference. But Chris Paul should

760
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 4: be taking all the time in the world here to

761
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 4: get healthy.

762
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 2: They do play a little faster, which I think has

763
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: helped them out. Maybe again that's just because they're book

764
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 2: What do you think, Trey is an insane question to ask,

765
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 2: Are they better without Chris Paul right now?

766
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 3: Well, they look better, the results were better, But are

767
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 3: they better? Probably, but it's hard to say. At the

768
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 3: very least, it feels to me like they don't miss

769
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 3: Chris Paul because it means Devin Booker just has the

770
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: ball more, Devin Booker and Kevin Durant taking more possessions.

771
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: That's good, and it also it puts a shooter on

772
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 3: the court like Landry Shamitt. Though it's not like Suns

773
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: fans were stoked to see Landry Shammit out there before

774
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: we started knocking down threes. If everybody else makes threes,

775
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: then it doesn't matter. If Chris Paul misses Game five.

776
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 3: They can obviously survive without. But I think you would

777
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: rather just have another body. And you know, Chris Paul,

778
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 3: despite the fact that he's not a great shooter anymore

779
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: or a score or anything like that, he takes care

780
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: of the ball eleven assists to one turnover. That could

781
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 3: be a problem for Phoenix playing on the road. So

782
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: maybe your miss his settled down ability, but they can

783
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 3: survive one more game with that.

784
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 2: I think the hypothetical would be fun if the Suns

785
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: somehow go into Denver and win that they're third in

786
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: a row and are up three to two, And if

787
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: Chris Paul could then play, hypothetically in game six, what

788
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 2: would Money Williams do?

789
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 3: Then?

790
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: Would you keep running with what's working? Again, this is

791
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: assuming they would go on to win three in a row.

792
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 2: Here they'd have to win tonight. Would you bring him

793
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: off the bench? Would you say, you know what, let's

794
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: not even force it rest up for a potential game

795
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: you know seven, or potential next series. It would be

796
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 2: a big or at least an interesting dilemma there for

797
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: money Williams and his son's organization. But Chris Paul's not

798
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,959
Speaker 2: playing tonight, and I'm very excited for this pivotal Game

799
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: five between the Nuggets and the Suns. Okay, we got

800
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 2: some more hardware. Wait, did they get anything for these

801
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: all rookies? They give them a little plaqu or something to.

802
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 3: Get, like one of those clear plaques. Yeah, I don't

803
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 3: know what they get.

804
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: Oh, Okay, we had some accolades. Magic forward Pallo Bancaro

805
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: and the Rookie of the Year and Jazz center Walker

806
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 2: Kessler and OKC forward Jellen Williams the other two finals

807
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: for that award. They were all named to the NBA's

808
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: All Rookie First Team on Monday afternoon. Pacers guard Benedict

809
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: Mathern and Kings forward Keegan Murray joined them on the

810
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: first team. If you're on YouTube, we got a slick

811
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: graphic there from at NBA pr your first team. As

812
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 2: for the B squad, Piston's guard Jaden Ivy, his teammate

813
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: Jalen Duran, Spurs forward Jeremy Sohan, Rockets forwards Jabari Smith

814
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: Junior and Tari Eason made up the All Rookie second team,

815
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: So ten youngins making the All Rookie first and second team.

816
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 3: There.

817
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: We have a voting breakdown here too, if you want

818
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 2: to look at numbers, a lot of votes at the

819
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: end for a bunch of other eyes there. You know,

820
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,479
Speaker 2: Andrew Nemhart pretty close, very close to making that second team.

821
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 2: But do you have a do you have a snub

822
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: here task or a surprise when it comes to these

823
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: two squads or who's on it or who didn't make it?

824
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, Nemhard not making it. Aj Griffin sort of

825
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 4: falling off with the Hawks. Thought he'd be a part

826
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 4: of the rotation forever and ever and ever. He kind

827
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 4: of fell off. And Shade and Sharp all deserving in

828
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 4: a different way. Shade Sharp probably the one who stands

829
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 4: out the most. But you got a Tari's and you

830
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 4: got a Sohn. Can't be angry about it. But all

831
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 4: those guys, I thought, specifically Sharp, I know it's not

832
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 4: just the highlight dunks. The guy was a key part

833
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 4: of the rotation at times.

834
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: So well at the end of the season when they

835
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: gave him a chance and he got a lot of

836
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: minutes he was putting up big, big numbers, but can't

837
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: say for a majority.

838
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: Of the season.

839
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: But what do you have a snub.

840
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 3: Or those are the two big names, Shade and Sharp

841
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: seventh in total points, eighth in minutes, so you think

842
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: maybe he's a top ten rookie. I don't know. Andrew

843
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: Nemhard seventh and and it's ninth in points. But I

844
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: don't really think people are watching the Pacers point guard defense,

845
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: which would be his main selling point. So yeah, you

846
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 3: could consider those guys snubs, But I think pretty solid

847
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: teams here. I was happy to see Eastan and sell

848
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: Hand make the second team.

849
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like the only thing people were maybe

850
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 2: upset about, particularly Pistons fans. I guess that Ivy wasn't

851
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: on the first team. Sure, you know, ahead of a

852
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: math room, maybe a murray or something like that. There

853
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: was some some upset Pistons fans about that, But you're right, Well,

854
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: then you get into the second team and it feels

855
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 2: like there's like eight or nine guys that are you know,

856
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 2: more than deserving to beat on there or at least.

857
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 4: In the running.

858
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: And you saw the voting breakdown and a lot of

859
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: them get in some love. This was a fun question

860
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: from Hollinger at the Athletic I thought, who do you

861
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 2: think could take the biggest leap in the second season

862
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 2: from this rookie crop here.

863
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 4: Ivy's a great one, even though he had a really

864
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 4: good season. As soon as he has Kate Cunningham playing

865
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 4: beside him and he doesn't have as much ball handling responsibily,

866
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 4: just somebody to take the load off and he can

867
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 4: just be a score. I think he can be a

868
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 4: really really efficient fourth quarter score. Cage just loves to

869
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 4: give the ball up. He's a very willing guy. But

870
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 4: he could take over in the fourth too. They are

871
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 4: gonna make a good combo one day. So even though

872
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 4: he had a solid year and I think I think

873
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 4: him on the second team was totally fine. Mathuron was fantastic,

874
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 4: Keegan Murray was fantastic. Those are two guys you'd probably

875
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 4: bump him over. He has room to grow it.

876
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: He got better and better as the season went on. Now, yeah,

877
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: is a part of that because the Pistons are like

878
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 2: falling out of picture, you know, any sort of playoff picture,

879
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: and there's he definitely got more opportunity. But I thought

880
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: he got better. Yeah, and then just great as a

881
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: point guard to sort of learning the game, the speed

882
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 2: of that whips are playing at the pro level.

883
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: That's a good one.

884
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: If he's a good pick.

885
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 4: Do you have anyone else?

886
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 3: Well, two guys I liked that didn't make the team

887
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 3: Christian Brown and AJ Griffin. I'm with you. I thought

888
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: AJ Griffin would be a bigger piece, but barely got

889
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: to taste the court at all and the playoffs shot

890
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: thirty nine percent from three. Seems like a good player, though,

891
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 3: if maybe a little flammable on defense. And Christian Brown,

892
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 3: I don't know that he'll ever take a huge leap,

893
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 3: but I think it's pretty impressive the way he stayed

894
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 3: in the rotation basically the entire year for the Nuggets,

895
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: being an energy guy, a defender, and a surprising dunk dude.

896
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: Uh biggest sleep in his second Season's gotta be Chat Holmgren.

897
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: He's gonna be on the court and cannot wait to

898
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: see what that guy looks like. I'd also toss a

899
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 3: little sauce on maybe Jabari Smith Junior as a guy

900
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 3: who could pop.

901
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: He got better too.

902
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 3: He got better, and it seems like the Rockets are

903
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: going to be moving towards some more professional team. If

904
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: he gets some veterans around him, guys who like to

905
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 3: pass the ball, that will be beneficial to the style

906
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: he plays.

907
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 2: Good calls A. J. Griffin still only nineteen years old

908
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: here on the Hawks.

909
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 3: See youngest dude in the draft. I think he might

910
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: have been Yeah, at least up there.

911
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 4: I mean he turns twenty and Duran right there both.

912
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 4: I think chat Holmgreen can pull off the Ben Simmons, right,

913
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 4: yeah he could. Yeah, Well Blake did it be Roy?

914
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: It'll be tough against one Binyama, but we shall.

915
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: See who else did Blake do that?

916
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 4: Right?

917
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: Did play his rookie year?

918
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 4: Yeah he didn't. Yeah, and then they won it?

919
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so Simmons versus Mitchell that was a

920
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: big one.

921
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

922
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 3: And then Emdeed was in the race against Malcolm Bran

923
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: but didn't play a lot thirty one games.

924
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: Thirty one games, but pretty dominant one games, and people

925
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: were like, maybe he should win. We will find out

926
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: the all defensive teams later today, Yeah, baby to PM.

927
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: Sort of interestingly, do these afternoon releases for these like

928
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: this week? It's still strange. I mean they don't want

929
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 2: they just I guess they don't even care, Like they

930
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: don't think it's that big of a deal to do

931
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: it on tn T like pregame or whatever.

932
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 3: Halftime. It is all NBA, and I'd be a bigger

933
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: deal that one's at night. Okay, yeah, okay, that's better.

934
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: I guess that's better. But it makes these awards second

935
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 3: class awards. That definitely does they are. Yeah, it's like

936
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: impossible to tell if they even get a trophy. I

937
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 3: googled Rookie All Rookie Team trophy and guess what Rookie

938
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 3: of the year they get a trophy? But I don't know.

939
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 3: I did find one, Evan Mobley one, but I'm unsure

940
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 3: if it's real. Who knows?

941
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 4: I want to.

942
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: I want to.

943
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 3: They got to get it. They get Player of the Week, right,

944
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: they don't give you one for All Rookie Team. We

945
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 3: need to talk to Victor Solomon and see what he's

946
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 3: up to.

947
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey man, you whip together another vazz. There's something

948
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 2: in there.

949
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 4: What do you get for a player of the week

950
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 4: A trophy?

951
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: I think you get like what we got when we

952
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 3: want a synopsis, like a little.

953
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 4: That's what you're talking about. Ship one of those out

954
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 4: every week? Huh?

955
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: Maybe I think there is a thing I think people

956
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 3: always talk about, like seeing it in people's uh Lebron's

957
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 3: got like maybe yeah.

958
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 2: And then what did the Hawks do when they all

959
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: want it player of the Month that one year they

960
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: share it?

961
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 3: They let Tomari Carroll keep it. I think, yeah, player

962
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: of the Month they definitely get. That's funny.

963
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 4: Maria Carroll, recent guest on Analysis Thanasis sais podcast tune in.

964
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 4: We have subscribe obviously, obviously we you had the idea

965
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 4: a couple of months ago. Because everybody's got a podcast.

966
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 4: It sure feels like some of these could be fake,

967
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 4: like Docan Robinson's got a podcast, Fanasiso has a podcast.

968
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 4: There was a great pins a past was the one

969
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 4: where I was like, yeah, so there was also a

970
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 4: great one sent to us. I won't mention it because

971
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 4: it's such a great segment idea, but that one even

972
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 4: got a Theo Pinson category.

973
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 3: But it's a real podcasts real right is it? Likelier?

974
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 4: It's not a baseball pitch, not a baseball player.

975
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 3: When I remember, when the hell are you talking? Exactly?

976
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 3: He's like a Lakers two way guy. But it's like

977
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 3: when Kobe and Power were running things for the Lakers.

978
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 3: Remember it became a story that DJ Benga had a

979
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: like a Hollywood agent. Yeah, same thing. Cole Swider's got

980
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: a podcast, wow? Or he does? He does? He does?

981
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like weekly.

982
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, it doesn't I didn't. I only subscribe

983
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: to the analysis.

984
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a good one. We gotta take our final break.

985
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a quick break and when we come back,

986
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: a very fun tweet of the night where we have

987
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: a poll for everybody to chime in on, so don't

988
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: go anywhere. Happy belated birthday to Cole Swider, who turned

989
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 2: twenty four years old yesterday.

990
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 4: Wow.

991
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: And we did a little fact checking. Cole Swider taking

992
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 2: the podcast game very seriously. He's podcasting once a week

993
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: throughout the entire season.

994
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 4: He didn't miss a week. I don't think, didn't take

995
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 4: off holidays. I'm gonna check this podcast pre recorded for

996
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 4: the holidays.

997
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: It's good work, good work doing it with his what

998
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 2: his Syracuse teammate Patty Casey is that his name sounds

999
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: like a fake name, Patty Casey. I bet there Swider

1000
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: and Patty Casey sound like two baseball players, like totally

1001
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: Cole and Patty Cole and Patty sliders sliders turn in two?

1002
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 3: All right? Good on?

1003
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: It looked like he had a couple, uh, you know,

1004
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 2: Lakers players on throughout the season Whenny and Gabriel could

1005
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: get it looked like there you go, where you go?

1006
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: Maybe Lakers fans are all over this. He played what

1007
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: seven seven games for Lakers this year and a lot

1008
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: of minutes really one game he played in game, yes.

1009
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 4: But good on them.

1010
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: The Cole Swider Podcast, a little shout out to you,

1011
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: Let's get to tweeted the.

1012
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 4: Night tweet out, Wow tweeter the night going.

1013
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: To uh a good friend.

1014
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: Tom Hapistro of Meadow Lark Media, he had a fun

1015
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: tweet up with a pole yesterday that I wanted to

1016
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 2: get your your guys take on. The question was how

1017
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: do you like your shooting percentages to be served? Why

1018
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 2: does this pack your knives? So far in the playoffs,

1019
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: wrote Tom Clickio.

1020
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 3: So far in the.

1021
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: Playoffs, Devin Booker is averaging thirty six point eight points

1022
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 2: on dot dot dot four options here from Tom sixty

1023
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: one point seven field goal percentage one point four to

1024
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: two points per shot. We got the splits here, So

1025
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: basically from rounding up sixty two percent from the floor,

1026
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: fifty one from three eighty seven at the line shooting,

1027
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: or seventy one point one percent true shooting percentage. So

1028
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: how do you like to uh put into uh context

1029
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 2: Devin Booker's incredible playoff run here? Which one would you pick?

1030
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 4: Tree? You got a good answer because I I I good.

1031
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 4: There's my opinion? Is the one point four two points

1032
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 4: per shot too sophisticated for me? Okay, it's too high end.

1033
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 4: I do love the true shooting percentage over seventy percent

1034
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 4: is fantastic, but that when you're just throwing out the

1035
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 4: three numbers there with the field goal, three point and

1036
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 4: free throw, that's cheating. Those are different. It's a different

1037
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 4: option to me. It's not really the same as saying

1038
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 4: this guy's field goal percentage versus his points, his true

1039
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 4: shooting three.

1040
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: Level score, it's your favorite efficiency?

1041
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 4: No good answer for me, Well would you pick?

1042
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: I voted? I voted for straight up field goal percentage?

1043
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 4: Did he make it?

1044
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 3: That's all I care about. But then I wish I

1045
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: had take back sies because I would probably actually go

1046
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 3: for field goal three point free throw slashes. But guess what,

1047
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 3: you don't need free throw percentage. I would just go

1048
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 3: field goal three point percent, which I guess is what

1049
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 3: you get for true shooting percentages. But I refuse to

1050
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: do math. Right, Yeah, ain't no way I'm doing math.

1051
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: I was so good at it in high school. They

1052
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 3: said you never need to do it again.

1053
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: Wow.

1054
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 3: I took that to heart.

1055
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 2: Oh brag, you were good.

1056
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: No oh, but I took all the requirements so I

1057
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 3: didn't have to take it in college. And then I

1058
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: started talking about sports. Here's another thing I like about stats.

1059
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 3: When you list things points, rebounds, assists, that's the way

1060
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 3: it goes, right, I agree. Last night Steph Curry was balling.

1061
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: He was at say, twenty points nine rebounds, nine assists,

1062
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 3: he was at twenty something nine and nine. Brian Anderson

1063
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 3: was calling it, Curry now at twenty points nine rebounds,

1064
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: nine assists. He comes down, he gets and assists. Curry

1065
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 3: now at twenty ten and nine.

1066
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 2: Ooh, because he went the next highest Numberah, exactly.

1067
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds better twenty ten and nine than twenty

1068
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 3: nine and ten. But yeah, with the same pitter pattick. Bryan, Well,

1069
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 3: here's my opinion. That's what it regards the numbers. I'm

1070
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 3: poll going.

1071
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: I voted for the like like you were saying, I

1072
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: like the slashes. I liked the three levels scoring there.

1073
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 2: I mean nearly sixty two from the floor while fifty

1074
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:09,959
Speaker 2: one from three.

1075
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: Wow.

1076
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 3: And then yeah that.

1077
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 2: The free throws are thrown in there. I love when

1078
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: it's over ninety though, you get very excited. You're like, oh,

1079
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: he's automatic. But I voted for that and the poll

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Speaker 2: results as of right now, six days left to vote.

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Speaker 2: Tom Haberstrow wants a real good number of votes in this.

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Speaker 2: There's over sixteen hundred votes, fifty one point two percent

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Speaker 2: voting for the slashes. Give me all three feel good.

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Speaker 4: It'soating to me. It's not the same evaluation. It's okay,

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Speaker 4: the same stat it's a different stat coming in second.

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Speaker 4: That's why it's number one.

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Speaker 3: It's more information coming in second.

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Speaker 2: You're two shooting percentage really yeah, twenty two point eight,

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Speaker 2: then your old basic goal percentage, and then nobody, well

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Speaker 2: ten percent wanted the one point four to two points

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Speaker 2: per shot.

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Speaker 3: I like the idea. I do love relating shots to points, like,

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Speaker 3: I think it's a big thing when you take more

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Speaker 3: shots than points. But that's next level. Yeah, division dividing things.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff there from our friend Tom Haberstrow at Tom

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Speaker 2: Haberstrow on Twitter at great follow especially if you want

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Speaker 2: to know who Scott Foster is officiating and all the breakdowns,

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Speaker 2: He's all over this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right, Scottie too Hotty was calling Lakers Warriors

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Speaker 3: last night. I guess the extender didn't have it.

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Speaker 4: Right short in the series, although, yeah, Steve Kerr.

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Speaker 3: Call Fallen, Anthony Davis and Steph Curry of the line

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00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 3: for three free throws to win it. That would have

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Speaker 3: been a classic Foster.

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Speaker 4: He was calling a lot of moving screens there in

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Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. The Flops got the reffing crewer. I wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if those are all assigned to Foster.

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00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 4: I'd have to go to the box score. But they

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00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 4: were getting fooled a little bit of thought. But it's

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Speaker 4: nice to see a moving screen called at.

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Speaker 2: The same Draymond one, that's a moving screen. He sets

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Speaker 2: the screen, then he moves and then Luddy Walker. I

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Speaker 2: mean what you should do is he's going to continue

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Speaker 2: on his path trying to chase Clay and run into

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Speaker 2: it and fall down.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it has to be correct.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of moving screens out there. Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: there are many called the flop. The flops are getting

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Speaker 4: I mentioned Lowry in the next game. The flops are

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Speaker 4: getting the officials.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen the worldwide wob clip going around? Oh,

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Speaker 2: Lowry's he's broken him obviously as a next phase.

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Speaker 3: In flop mode.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's uh, he says, I don't want to misquote

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Speaker 2: my guy, Worldwide wild Rob. He said, Kyle Lowry has

1126
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: ruined the game of basketball.

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Speaker 3: The sport of basketball is cooked.

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Speaker 4: Got him.

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00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: He gets to everybody in the end. He even got

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Speaker 3: to r. J. Barrett. I pulled this quote because I

1131
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Speaker 3: thought it was hilarious. Barrett was talking post games. He said,

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Speaker 3: I give him credit. They're working hard. They got guys

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00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 3: falling every possession, they're getting calls, they're getting rebounds, they're

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00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 3: playing hard. We played hard as well. That's how you

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00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 3: do it. That's how you criticize flopping. Just throw it

1136
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 3: in the middle of a bunch of other things and

1137
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 3: it just flies right by. Yeah, they're flopping all the time,

1138
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 3: they're playing hard. We love it.

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Speaker 2: I guess see some similar like quotes too, like the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: The gamesmanship you use that word, that's another word for like, oh,

1141
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: you're you're grifting, You're trying to just get the officials

1142
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 2: like you're flopping, You're you know, embellishing.

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Speaker 3: Gamesmanship is whatmanship?

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Speaker 2: All right, We'll see what impact that has on any

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Speaker 2: of those series. Moving forward to on tonight Pivotal Game

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Speaker 2: fives Sixers Celtics Sons Nuggets, both on TNT. We'll be

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Speaker 2: here tomorrow to break them all down ten am Eastern,

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1152
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Speaker 3: Clipp bros. You heard it here first. Have a great

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Speaker 3: time turn up. Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 4: your Twitter account in years, you might want to go

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Speaker 4: save it because it's going to be purged. It's the

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Speaker 4: word out there. Yeah, just sperds, perds.

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Speaker 3: The purchase of the word that.

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Speaker 4: Up does people. That's how Elon should have announced it,

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Speaker 4: just like that,