1 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, come down and waste away with me. It's 2 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: Morning Combat, Monday, January twenty seventh, twenty twenty. I think 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: I got that date right. You're looking at you, Boyle 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: Brian Campbell of CBS Sports. This is not Luke Thomas. 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: It's a much more new and improved addition though, the 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: man who used to do a little on the show, 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: but that little got more and more. The man in 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: the hat Chuck Midden, Hall of the Athletic dot Com 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 1: and a fantastic podcast. I'll never remember the name of. 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: The man in the myth? 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: How can you get that? In the damn myth? Fire Man. 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 3: I'm glad to be back his first time this decade 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 3: that I've been in the bunker. I thought we were 14 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: going to go suit up a little bit. 15 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: Right, we might, We might jazz up the place a 16 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: little bit, maybe get a gag or something going here, 17 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: something here, I mean, this is wow. Yeah, for both, 18 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: this is ruthless here somewhere in the swamps of Jersey. 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: No one knows the exact location, though. We're back for 20 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: another week. And what's going on in the worlds of boxing, 21 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: MMA and beyond. Luke's not here. We can do pro wrestling. 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: Here we go. 23 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: We can do a little roll rumble. I don't know 24 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: if you call it that. Last night, Chuck, I actually 25 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,279 Speaker 1: did shout out a little Brock party. Actually Brock counter 26 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: U late fantastic piece of business there. I'm no longer 27 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: covering pro wrestling for a living. I'm just watching as 28 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: a fan. 29 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 2: You're a fan. Saw them on social media last night? 30 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: You were into it. 31 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: I was there, I was ready, I was ready to 32 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: do it. I'm ready to do this show. Luke Thomas, 33 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: by the way, on mandatory assignment doing some super Bowl 34 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: radio this week. It is what it is. Okay, No 35 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: none of these jury duty excuses this time around, you 36 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But the hat is back. One 37 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: of these days we will get that Morning combat. Well yeah, 38 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: I like that, right, I would like that absolutely. Morning Combat, 39 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: of course, is the best way to start your week 40 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: because we pull no punches, Chuck, all right, we bring it. 41 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I mean I could lay 42 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: awake just to hear you breatheing. You know what I'm saying. 43 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: All Right, Hey, let's already there this damn show. It 44 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: was a loaded combat sports weekend, and it was Bellatore 45 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: two thirty eight, Inglewood up to no Good in California, 46 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: and the headline news was Chris Cyborg and exiting UFC, 47 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: recently making her Bellatour debut and capturing the women's featherweight 48 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: title with a fourth round stoppage of long range champion 49 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: Julia Budd and Chuck. The historical news here is that Cyborg, 50 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: the legend, the Brazilian phenom, becomes the only fighter to 51 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: hold titles in UFC, Bellator, Strikeforce and in VICTA. How 52 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: impressed were you at age thirty four with this victory. 53 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: I was pretty impressed, Ashley. I have to say, this 54 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: is the first time in a while that I've had 55 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: a little bit of doubt going into a fight with her, 56 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 3: even you know the man in Unas when okay, that 57 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: was what it was, but somebody in other than man 58 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: in UNA's I thought there was a little bit of 59 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: doubt there, and in fact people were the people are 60 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: kind of talking about the sharp money and where the 61 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: line would go and stuff. I was like, you know, 62 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: if I'm betting this, I'm probably going to take the 63 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: value of Julia Budd in this one, just because I 64 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 3: felt like she was being a little bit unherlded unsung 65 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 3: going again, underrated historically, and she's big, Like this was 66 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 3: the big difference if you were watching from the from 67 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: the get going strikeforce, the types of opponents Cyborg was 68 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: facing versus ten years later, and she's facing somebody l 69 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: aj Butud who actually was bigger than her and almost 70 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: looked stronger than her early in the first couple rounds. 71 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: There's a couple times she was just out muscling her 72 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: and things like that. But uh, overall, I thought Cyborg 73 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: looked as good as she ever has, and it was 74 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 3: it seemed to me like a vintage of vintage performance. 75 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I want to stop you right there, all right, 76 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: and I want you to break that down because at 77 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 1: thirty four, she's certainly in the twilight on the other 78 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: side of that hill. She's not washed, she's not diminished, 79 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: but she's not the same as prime Cyborg in my eyes. Okay, 80 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: But the thing I want to give Chris, we call 81 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: her Justino anymore, we throw that name if it think 82 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: that's gone, Chris Cyborg. The main, the main point of 83 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: compliment I want to give her is the stamina, the 84 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: championship level aggression stamina, never wavered. In this fight. Is 85 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: that when you're leaning on when you sort of say, 86 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: this is as good as she ever looked, because I'm 87 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: still seeing a fighter who still had so much. I 88 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: don't know if she has everything. Although here's the problem. 89 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: Here's the problem. Okay, here's the problem. She was the goat. 90 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: She lost to Amanda new Nests in such quick and 91 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: devastating fashion, and because those scholar tricks, she didn't get 92 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: a chance to run it back and really give us 93 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 1: that that ending belief. But in terms of what you saw, yeah, 94 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: you're still seeing prime. 95 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: I mean there are wrinkles to the game, right, Like so, 96 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: I think she could knock people out very easily early on, 97 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 3: but it was just the level competition. And I think 98 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 3: these days, like Julia Budd is no joke, right, Like, 99 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: she's she's tough, she can take a punch. She was 100 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: able to persevere, and I think she was able to 101 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: kind of tie it up and make it look a 102 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 3: little more competitive. 103 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: And Mayapling is fantastic. 104 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: And then when you got when you got in a 105 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: third round and beyond though, you could tell where the 106 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: fight was going. 107 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: Uh. 108 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 3: I just thought she looked very good. I agree with 109 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: you that you know her cardio had just hit her 110 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: age and everything else looked very good. But dude, when 111 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 3: she when she starts throwing those bombs, those combinations and 112 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 3: putting things together, it is it's ridiculous. I'm still the 113 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: same way I was when she was beating Jan Finny 114 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: all those years ago, and uh and Kim Winslow is 115 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: just standing by letting her take that beating. It still 116 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 3: looked like that to me, where you're like, this is 117 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: like battery. 118 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: You know you're watching it. 119 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: There's there's certain fighters historically in boxing Romma when they 120 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: smell of the blood and they go for the finish, 121 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: it's it's brutal, it's violent, it's accurate. She certainly had that. 122 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: I did want to give that same respect to Bud, 123 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: who maybe wasn't beating the same level of UFC level 124 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: competition in recent years, but had been the champion for 125 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: four or five defenses, had been unbeaten going back to 126 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: what like the days where she lost to Rousey and 127 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: Amanda Nunas. But it was a game effort from her. 128 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: But Cyborg's just too great, and this is sort of 129 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: where the transition of this ghost, because look, I love 130 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: Cyborg the person she's so humble. Everything about her has 131 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: always been great. A couple of missteps here in there, 132 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: maybe in her public presentation there was the one PD misstep, 133 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: but she's always been great. Where to see the way 134 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: her UFC relationship fell apart was sad to see. I mean, 135 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: the floating of that video was ridiculous from her team. 136 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you want to see her 137 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: have a chance always to prove how great she is. 138 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: Were we too quick and taking those goat horns away 139 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: from her and giving them to the lioness for going 140 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: into the kitchen and taking the heat and knock you out? 141 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: Because what Cyborg did Saturday and just adds historically to 142 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: or legacy. And if she doesn't get a chance to 143 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: run back, then Amanda fight, which now you know doesn't 144 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: seem likely doesn't. Were we too quick to say, oh, 145 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: you beat the greatest, now you are the greatest. 146 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, because I think the original knock 147 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 3: right well, first of saw she was in a weight 148 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: class of her own. It was very difficult to find 149 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 3: somebody who was one hundred and forty five pounds a 150 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 3: legit one forty five to go fight her. 151 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: But you look at the. 152 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: Amount of time she was beating kind of nobody's and 153 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: you know, I hate the word it that way, but 154 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 3: she did go through a string of fights where it 155 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: was just kind of padding. 156 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: You know, there was a lot of that. And then 157 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: you know, she. 158 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 3: Goes to the UFC and she looked good, she looked 159 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: dominant at times, but she did have that loss and 160 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: there are a couple of you know, I would say 161 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 3: that she had more pedestrian looking performances than she has 162 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: in her career. 163 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: So I think we're judging her exactly right. 164 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: This was a big moment to see just how far 165 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: if she had diminished, if there was any if there 166 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 3: was going to be any of that, she didn't show it, 167 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 3: and so I think I still consider her right there. 168 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: And so the man in new This one was weird though, 169 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: because of the way that they've then they've crossed. I'd 170 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: like to see it run back. We probably won't, but 171 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: I would probably I would. It's like a one A 172 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: one beat me. 173 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: I mean, does she still have a claim to be 174 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: the greatest of all time accomplished? 175 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: I mean, you saw that picture where she's holding all 176 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: four of her belts. That speaks for itself. I mean 177 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: regardless of who she was facing. To do it as 178 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: long as she did, and to rack up four different 179 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 3: belts and all the major organizations, I. 180 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: Think you're right on doing it as long as she did. 181 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: She's considered rightfully a pioneer because she started and was 182 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: dominant early on at such a fertile time. Yeah, and 183 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: she's still winning I thirty four. I mean, if she's 184 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: able to compete at a fairly high level into you know, 185 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: pushing forty, how are you ever going to deal with 186 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: that kind of longevity in terms of just compilation, in 187 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: terms of what she did. I mean, it was great 188 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: to see her get that win. I thought she looked 189 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: a little bit human at times against Fleecia Spenser and 190 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: her final UFC, but I think she sort of turned 191 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: that around, didn't really take punishment, was dominant. Does Belator though, 192 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: have the bodies the names at one forty five to 193 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: make a potential title reign interesting? That's where I'm a 194 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: little little I. 195 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: Don't know either. I don't think so. 196 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: I think we're back into that, like hoho, do cyborg 197 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 3: face realm? And even when they asked Scott Coker afterwards, 198 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,119 Speaker 3: he was basically, you know, Julie but wants to rematch. 199 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: But I think she's got to go on a bit 200 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: of a terror. I'm like a tear against who. Who 201 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: Are these women facing against each other yet against who? 202 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 203 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be more like it was 204 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: back at Strike Force, where it's whatever name comes out 205 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 3: of that hat is who she's going to go against. 206 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: I'll give Bellator credit this weekend going head ahead with 207 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: the UFC rally card, which we're going to get to 208 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: in a second. This was a deep card. There were 209 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: a lot of storylines. One of those was the continuation 210 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: of this Featherweight World Grand pre tournament's been fast, fantastic 211 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: so far, and Darren Caldwell had maybe the toughest ass 212 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: to date this weekend when he took on Hungarian Adam Borich, 213 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: who had been climbing the ladder, capturing everybody's imagination. And 214 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: then this here's the deal. It was a somewhat pedestrian 215 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: first round submission win. Chuck. I don't know that Caldwell 216 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: was overwhelmingly great, and I don't know that Boritz was 217 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly disappointing. I just know that Caldwell took him down 218 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: choked him and that was it. 219 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: And you know, I talked to Adam Borich before the 220 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: fight and base he was like, you know, we've been trained, 221 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: We've already fought Aaron Peekle would beat him. We've we 222 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 3: faced top guys like this in the wrestling realm. I 223 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 3: think I lean more. 224 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: The other way. 225 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 3: I was like, oh man, that was disappointing because I 226 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: had him peg dad in Borgez kind of the dark 227 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 3: horse to maybe take this thing. That's I really thought 228 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 3: that he would show up and that this would be 229 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: his big showcase moment to kind of signal that. But instead, 230 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 3: I agree with you, it was a very pedestrian showing. 231 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: You hate to see him go out like that, because 232 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: the cat was just getting a name for himself. I 233 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: thought that he'd kind of even though he'd you know, 234 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: he beat Kieran and he had beaten you know, he 235 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 3: had already taken out Pico. I didn't really feel like 236 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: people were talking about him. I felt like this was 237 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: his moment and he didn't get it done. 238 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: Shot Outvan So I do a weekly podcast with on CBS, 239 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: had been in my ear seeing him at all and 240 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: just being like, you know, rightfully, so you need to 241 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: get up to speed on this guy. I had been 242 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: maybe this is his humble moment to come back with 243 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: Caldwell moving on. Who's he have up next? 244 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 4: You know? 245 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: Oh he's going against aj McKee. That's a big one. 246 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 3: I mean that, you're right, his road is very difficult, 247 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: but that's a great fight because they already have bad 248 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: blood between. 249 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: I love Caldwell moving up and wait and show and 250 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: guess what he can do like that? To close on this, 251 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: A lot of stories talk about but Aaron Pico, this 252 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, uber prospect who stumbled at that four and 253 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: three record, came back this weekend, not against a household name, 254 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: but delivered the good guy. He needed the the shape up, 255 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: get well and he did, finishing with a brutal left 256 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: form that came out of nowhere. This is the confidence 257 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: building you need. What did you take from the comments 258 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: before and after from him? Do you think mentally he's 259 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: in the right place now more? 260 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: I think so, man, And it was good for them 261 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: to keep him out of this Grand Prix, but to 262 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: put him back into the spotlight with these guys, because 263 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: I feel like he is kind of that guy floating 264 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: around that who you know, we'll see, he's twenty three 265 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: years old. 266 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: He suffered a couple of knockouts. 267 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: The big thing I'm seeing from him is he's picking 268 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: his shots more like he kind of set that up 269 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: a lot more than he has in the past. I 270 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 3: think his first six fights were all through in the 271 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 3: first round, including him getting knocked out a couple of times. 272 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: His last couple have gone into the second, so they're 273 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: always finished. Is still feast or famine, But I feel 274 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 3: like he's learning to pick a shots. He's reeling it 275 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 3: in a little bit, and then he finds the moment 276 00:10:58,840 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: to kind of explode. 277 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: The name here of the guy he'd beat, but I'm 278 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: sure the guy did well taking down the doctor Goon 279 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: after they're taking down the cage after the fight and 280 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: driving Pico home, but a strong victory there. It's such 281 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: a weird fertile spot mentally, where where you want to 282 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: keep building up his confidence. You want to see how 283 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: far he can go. 284 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 3: He was so confident going in, Yeah, I know exactly, Well, 285 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: he's so confident, and he starts with beltor so he's 286 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 3: fighting guys who cook capable of me. He loses, and 287 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 3: I feel like he's been trying to chase his own 288 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: confidence to get back to where he was. 289 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: Luckily, MMA we always say this, especially comp here to boxing, 290 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: you can take losses and learn from it. It's not 291 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: the end of the road. A real quickly kickboxing phenom. 292 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: Thirty nine year old Grandon Daniels had his third MMA fight. 293 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: Talk about fun to watch, just like. 294 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 2: You to name. His opponent. 295 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: Was Chuck It was just fun to see the spinny shit. 296 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: It was Kunglei back. But he said he's willing to 297 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: face his good friend MVP. Dude fireworks. Okay, let's do 298 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: this nine. 299 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: Why not throw him in there, and you want to 300 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 3: see this guy's going to go out there and go 301 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: for broke right Like he's just basically dragging his kickboxing prowess. 302 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: He's not going to wrestle, He's not going to do 303 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: any of that stuff. Put him against guys all commodate him. 304 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: Sergio Pettison, Curtis Malender. UFC vets also big wins in 305 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: their Bellatour debut finish nice nice submission there. But this 306 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: weekend also UFC Raleigh Fight Night, it was heavyweights in 307 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: the main event. Curtis Razor Blades trying to make that 308 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: step forward toward a title shot, and you talk about 309 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: a dominant performance. First, I'm sorry, second round TKO over 310 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: former champion Junior Dosantos didn't do it with his wrestling, 311 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: did it with the thread of his wrestling, finishing him 312 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: with the right hand and then punches that followed. Now, Chuck, 313 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm thoroughly impressed. And I hadn't been a big Curtis 314 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: Blades guy, solid, never spectacular. The finish of over Rags 315 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: Day up, this one did it. But here's my question, 316 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: because he's talking title afterwards, and he's really third in 317 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: the UFC rankings and just made the biggest victory of 318 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: his career. But he only has two defeats as to 319 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: this pro record, and they're to the guy right in 320 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: front of him, in terms of Francis and Ganhu won 321 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: in which he got hurt and retired, the second in 322 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: which it was a quick knockout. Yeah, does he have 323 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: to beat him to really get in line and be 324 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: a true title chick. 325 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 3: Well, I don't see a way he even gets back 326 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: to Anghano. His best bet right now is in March 327 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 3: when and Ghano takes on a Rosen Strike and they 328 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: in the main event there. 329 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: He's got a root for Rosen strike. 330 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: You gotta have the other guy kind of get through 331 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: and put in Ghano behind you, because I just can't 332 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: see a route for him right now unless something crazy happens, 333 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: which in MMA we know is possible. But uh, he's 334 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 3: probably going to have another fight or too. Just the 335 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 3: way it's playing out, you still got Miochich against Kormiam 336 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: guessing that the UFC is still trying to book. I 337 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: don't know where that is at right now, but that's 338 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 3: going to happen, and you have that other fight, which 339 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: I still think the pole position comes from. 340 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 2: That. 341 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: Very interesting because you want to talk about a guy 342 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: who's made that evolution. Is not just the wrestler. He's 343 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: now put together a few different knockout wins. It wasn't 344 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: just Overrea Jds. He had that real good one against 345 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: the names. The names. 346 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is the Russian Cat. 347 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably the Russian Cat. Probably you know some of 348 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: you guy whatever. 349 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 350 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: But the whole point is the thread of his wrestling 351 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: is now what is so well setting up his power? 352 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: And he heard JDS a couple of time I was 353 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: leading into that stoppage. We talked about the potential road 354 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: to get to a title shot. But in terms of 355 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: legitimate title contender, if he fought tomorrow a steep Ameo 356 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: Chitch or a Daniel Cormbier, would you give him a 357 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: legitimate chance. 358 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: I think he's getting there, but I'm not sure I 359 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 3: would pick him yet. 360 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: I mean, he I agree with you one hundred percent. 361 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: I was a little bit eye open. 362 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 3: If you'd said that he was going against jds and 363 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: the JDS would thwart his takedown, it's him sall six 364 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 3: or seven of them. I would think, well, that probably 365 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: means he got knocked out or picked apart on the feet. 366 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 3: But the fact that he was able to stand with 367 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: use the basically like you said, as a threat, and 368 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: use plan Z as he called it, and use his 369 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: hands and kind of show those showcase those a little 370 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 3: bit tells me he's come a long way at just 371 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: kind of adapting to what's happening in a fight. Because 372 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: a couple that in gan, like you think about the 373 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: Angano fight, it would be nice to have a few 374 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: more tricks up asleep. I feel like he's getting those, 375 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: so he's getting close. I would still like to see 376 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 3: maybe do that one more time. He's he's got a 377 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: nice collection of names. Now, man, he's got you know 378 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: you mentioned over in Mark Hunt. Now he's got JDS. 379 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 3: He's starting to put him together. But give me one 380 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: more and if we see him do it, I think 381 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 3: he'd be right. 382 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: So it's interesting to see if the kryptonite of Francis 383 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: and Gano will follow him throughout his career, because it's 384 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: rare when somebody would lose twice to a guy and 385 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: then need to beat him a third time to get 386 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: to what he wants. It's sort of like I interviewed 387 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: Clausio Goadeja ahead of UFC two forty six in her 388 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: fight that fell apart, and she's like, do you wanna 389 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: beef will never end? And I will fight her a 390 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: third time and I might need to get through her 391 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: to get the title or get into a title shot. 392 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: It's sort of weird when that goes out, where you 393 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: get a trilogy based on you know, one sided. But 394 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: then again, I'm the guy who's calling for d C 395 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: John Jones three, So what the heck game here? Do? 396 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: I know heavyweights were in the main event this weekend, 397 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: but you want to talk about the fight of the 398 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: night on paper coming in that we needed to see. 399 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: It was the co main event, it was welterweights, it 400 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: was the damn Maverick. Michael Kisa put Pinning up impressive 401 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: three round unanimous decision. I'm former champion at lightweight the 402 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: l dos Andos and Chuck Wow like that though since 403 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: moving up to welterweight. But it's one thing to beat. 404 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: Look how huge he is, the husk of Carlos. It's 405 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: one thing to beat the husk of Diego Sanchez. But 406 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: you go in there against an RDA who only lose 407 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: us to the super elite and you dominate him. 408 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah. 409 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: And putting the pace on a guy who puts pace 410 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 3: on people, you know what I mean. He kind of 411 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: reversed the tables a little bit, you can see from 412 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: this footage. I mean he's I was really impressed with 413 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 3: this one, and I felt like this would be the 414 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: real gauge to see if he's a welterweight player and 415 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: he handled himself great. I think he's loving life at 416 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: one seventy man, and I think he's actually I like 417 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 3: the fact that there's a guy who's showing that it 418 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 3: can be done this effectively. He goes up and wait, 419 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: so many people want to go down, jose although recently 420 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: going down to bands some way. 421 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: These types of things, I. 422 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 3: Want to see guys like Joseie all to go up 423 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: because you know that you're going to see them with 424 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: a different power range. You know that you see other 425 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 3: speed transfers all that stuff. Kisa is showing that it 426 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: can be done, man. But he I was very, very impressed, 427 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 3: and I love that he had a call out. 428 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: Ready, we're gonna get to that one second. You mentioned 429 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: the size. It was eye opening and everybody had the 430 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: same exact tweet. I'm nothing original here, but how the 431 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: hell did he ever make lightweight? When he goes in 432 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: there and looks as you can see over our shoulder 433 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: one hundred percent like the bigger man. He looked like 434 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: he was a weight class and a half above our 435 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: da in terms of size, and then you see him 436 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: dominate physically on the ground. Is this just one of 437 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: those things where he's figured out how great he can 438 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: be in this spot? 439 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: I think it is. I think it is. 440 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 3: It's I think that there was some stigma that he 441 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 3: had to get down to one fifty five. He'd kill 442 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: himself to get down to one, which was weird because. 443 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: People do that to preserve a certain power advantage. He 444 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: wasn't a power puncher at fifty five. 445 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 3: And he was I mean, he was trading wins and 446 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: I wasn't like he was this dominant fighter there. 447 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: Just really strange. 448 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 3: I think it was one of those things that it 449 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 3: was in his head and you think that that's where 450 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 3: you're supposed to be. But you can tell he's liberated. 451 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 3: Just listen to him talk about any of about the fights, 452 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: about the matchups, about like he feels invincible at this weight, 453 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 3: and that's kind of what you want, right, Like you 454 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: want to feel that way. 455 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: Because a guy like this guy's walking around the cage, 456 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: mister international player with a passport. He's just like Aladdin, 457 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: bitch right, He'll do anything you asked for. Here it is. 458 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: He closed the victory, of course, with a heck of 459 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: a walk off. In the interview with Daniel Cormane, which 460 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: you teased, basically just said, the only thing I have 461 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: to say is get ready my next opponent. I'll see 462 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: you Colby Covington this summer this July, I think, is 463 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: what he said. 464 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 2: How do you think you can find where the hell 465 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: did that guy? 466 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: Well? How he did? 467 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: The math? 468 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: Here was that our Da was ranked fifth by the UFC. 469 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: Coming in, we mentioned he had only lost to Elite 470 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: and by the way, a little side traffic here. R 471 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: DA's got a sleepy great resume when you go back 472 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: and we think of him as, oh yeah, he's a 473 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: good fighter or former champion whatever. 474 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 2: He's been good for a long time. 475 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: Man, he might have a better resume than Michael Bisping. 476 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, like he might like you look at the 477 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: winds he's piled up anyway, he takes the l here, heyes. 478 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: His thinking is I beat the number five guy. I'm 479 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: only going up now. That's a strategic call out Colby 480 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: coming up and lost to Kamaru. Do you think Michael 481 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: Kiyasa's wrestling mixed with submission can contend with the cut 482 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: of this division, meaning the Usmans and the Kolby Covington's 483 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: who will put that pace on you and will try 484 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: to grind you out for five rounds. Is he at 485 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: their level in that? 486 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 3: I think that remains to be seen because by saying 487 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: Kolby coming in and saying his name is one thing, 488 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 3: But to get in there with that guy like that 489 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: who puts the pace. We saw that Uzman fight like 490 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 3: he loses, but that was a preternatural kind of fight 491 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 3: for you know, guy like Guzman, he had to go 492 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: through a lot, you know, and he had to you 493 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 3: had to put a lot of damage on Colby comes 494 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 3: in to stop him. So you're asking for something that 495 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: you know, maybe you're mortal in basically, like this is 496 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 3: one of those types of situations. But you gotta love 497 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 3: that he feels invincible, that he feels like he can 498 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 3: do that, and he wants to go upward. There's so 499 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: many guys I think who kind of look at it more, Uh, 500 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: their doubts kind of come out and who they're calling out. 501 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: They want guys who are maybe slightly in the range. 502 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: He wants the guys that are above them because he 503 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 3: wants the title shots. 504 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: So it's hard to blame m. 505 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: He's a legit sleeper now on this division. I love 506 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: his mentality. First of all, we learned from Kevin Lee 507 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: don't talk a bad about his kis' mom. We've definitely 508 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: learned that. But I love that it's sort of like this, 509 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: I forgot about that, this blue collar mentality from Kise. 510 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: He's sort of like every guy in terms of when 511 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: you talk to him but puts in the time and 512 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: and has that mixture of wrestling and jiu jitsu, he's 513 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: going to be a tough out. I don't know if 514 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: he's going to have the that same next level that 515 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: that the guys that's the very top of had, but wow, he. 516 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: Just he's able to dictate his game. He's very good. 517 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 3: I just don't know if he'll be able to dictate 518 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 3: his game against a guy like Colby Covenson. I guess 519 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: that's that's kind of the fun of finding out right, Yeah, yeah. 520 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: Jay in my ear of course. But did you see 521 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: the uh speaking of the fight that Mike the Mav 522 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: won against our Da, you see the fight he had 523 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: with Luke Thomas on Twitter and the days leading up 524 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: hell of a debate over who was the bigger nineties 525 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 1: Starlett Topega from Boy Meets World or Kelly Kapowski from 526 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: Saved by the Bells. 527 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: Kelly Kopowski hands down it So j nineties. 528 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: Guy, Jay a big Kelly Kapowski guy in my ear, 529 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: here's where all of you are wrong. It's basically a 530 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: push Okay, Yeah, Kelly Kokowski's hot. I got behind Mike 531 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: the Mav saying Topenga's curve sort of made me a man. 532 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: That's all great and stuff, But how is anybody missing 533 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: out what is on the table here? Can we just 534 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: go to Valerie Malone when Kelly Kapowski became of age 535 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: and came on this in and now to and Ozero 536 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: and replace Shannon Doherty as the number one bad girl 537 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: in TV history. That's the real winner. No, I agree 538 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: with you, She's the real MVP. Can we wake up 539 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: a shout out to Topanga though I'm definitely in love 540 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: as well. All right, thick for days there? Yeah I 541 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: was talking. Yeah, okay, that's inappropriate. Let me fix it. 542 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna roll on here. MMA and also 543 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: boxing this weekend, Showtime Boxing took over the Barclay Center 544 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: once again big time welterweight matchup. In the main event, 545 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: Danny Swift Garcia, former two division champion and a stay 546 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: busy ish slash potential trap fight opportunity against the rugged, 547 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: aggressive Ivan Redcotch. We know who Danny Garcia wanted to 548 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: potentially impress. Sure, we know he wanted to do it 549 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: in knockout fashion, which is in theory why he drafted 550 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: in the South Paul Ivan Redcots, the aggressive guy who 551 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: comes after him, but he didn't get that knockout. It's 552 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: a unanimous decision. It was wide in my story I 553 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: wrote it. Look, it was clinical, it was thorough, it 554 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: was calculated. 555 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: They were into most of it. 556 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: Danny Garcia packs that house consistently at the Barklay it 557 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: was his eighth apparents he'd opened up that building. But 558 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: I've in Redcotch ultimately didn't play the role of sacrificial lamb. 559 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: He came in surprisingly to try to box and it 560 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: ended up helping him survive. Now, certainly had the show 561 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: a heck of a chin at times to be able 562 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 1: to walk through that. But the whole idea was for 563 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: Danny Garcia to impress to the level to make his 564 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: pay per view debut this spring against Aerol Spence Junior 565 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: or Manny Pacio, the two big south Paws both have 566 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: championship belts at one forty seven. Did this performance and 567 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: that it was somewhat anti climactic, even though it was 568 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: thorough and dominant, give him a better or worse chance 569 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: to draft Pakiyaw, which would be his preferred destination. 570 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 3: I think worse because you were talking. I know I 571 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 3: was listening to you. And Luke talk about this a lot. 572 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 3: I was sold on this too. I thought his punching 573 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 3: power would distinguish him in this fight and basically put 574 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 3: him up against another power puncher, you know what I mean. 575 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 3: And like all of a sudden, you have like a big, 576 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: a big time fight with Pacao. I just don't feel 577 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 3: like now they're rolling in with that kind of momentum. H. 578 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: I mean, we'll see, but I'm like, to me, I 579 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,719 Speaker 3: wanted to see him go in there, and he had 580 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 3: an accommodating guy. I felt it was on him to 581 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: put him with me. I know, he cut a lot 582 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: of weight and all this stuff. I heard his excuses, 583 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: but it just didn't seem like he didn't have that 584 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 3: instinct to do it. 585 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: He had to go buck Neckett to be able to 586 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: make weight this time around, and you know, he said, 587 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: it's not a struggle, it's a sacrifice. But it's a 588 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: struggle right to make that weight for him. But I'm 589 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: the guy who was bragging that he's the biggest punch 590 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: on the Waldway Division and no one's talking about it. 591 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: Turns out this guy with the with the yellow had 592 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: a machine head and it was better than the rest 593 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: and he was able to survive. I think the fact 594 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: though that he didn't look spectacular yet certainly has a 595 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: big name, always packs him in the seats, and especially 596 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: at Barclays, always does good cable ratings. If I'm Pacio, 597 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: why not? You know what I mean? It's a bit, 598 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: you know, you bring in that Hispanic market. Here's a 599 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: guy who Danny Garcia for as great as he is, 600 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: and he is great, rated in so many categories. His 601 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: only losses or close fights have come against quick boxers 602 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: with great footwork. I wonder if Pakio looks at this 603 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 1: and goes, all right, maybe he's not as dangerous as 604 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: we thought, and I can dance around him at forty one. 605 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 3: And I love how we would have to guess these 606 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 3: things in boxing. This is the big difference between him 607 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 3: and me. It's like we always have to guess with 608 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 3: the other guy that they're trying. 609 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: To chase his thinking. 610 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 3: But I could see what you're saying in this, you know, 611 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 3: I think for me, after watching like the Rios fight, 612 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,239 Speaker 3: like you'd mentioned these a couple of his knockouts, I mean, 613 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 3: he looked like he was going to do that here. 614 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 3: I felt like this was the setup and he could 615 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 3: do that, he just didn't get it done. I guess 616 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 3: I wanted to see that. That's what you realize in 617 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 3: the end. You wanted to kind of see that. I'm 618 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 3: sure the crowd at Barclays wanted to see that. 619 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to see it bad. They were lusting for 620 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: some action there, just especially after College Chuck. But the 621 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: thing I did take away here from Danny, which he 622 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: said leading up, he said, look, if I end up 623 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: losing out on this opportunity, if this spring Errol Spence 624 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: comes back from the accident and faces Manny Pacio instead, 625 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: here's what's interesting. Danny said he would move up to 626 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: one fifty four. Now, right away, you're like, oh my god, 627 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: I've never heard this before. Does Danny have the size, 628 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: chin or punching power to do this? But he's like, 629 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: not necessarily to chase those title holders. He wants to 630 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: rematch Sean Porter and Keith Thurman, who he made great 631 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: fights against, but do it at fifty four where they 632 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: don't have to struggle down as much to cut weight. 633 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm here for that. I mean, he sort of referenced 634 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: the dal La Joya Mosley rivalry which started at Welterwaite 635 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: they moved up together to fifty four. I would certainly 636 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: be into that. Luke and ithel played a big role 637 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: this weekend as we as we mentioned, uh it was 638 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 1: to open the show. I mean, you know, Luke cleans up. 639 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 1: I guess decently well Professor Salt and Pepper there. But 640 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, we took over the Countdown Live show, did 641 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: a little way in action with our boy Paul Malanaji. 642 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: It was awesome. 643 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: It was well received. You know what wasn't well received 644 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: unfortunately though, was the Cole main event on Showtime. On 645 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: Saturday at the Barclays, former unified Junior Middleway champion Jarrett 646 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: Swift heard coming back his first appearance since that loss 647 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: to Julian Williams last year. Went in there against a 648 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: hungry Francisco Santana and sort of after round and tries 649 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: to show the new wrinkles. He's not war Swift, the 650 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: guy that we fell in love with who just walks 651 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: you down and breaks your backbone. He tried some ish 652 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: he won a wide unanimous decision. He scored a hell 653 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: of a knockdown in round ten, final round, but he 654 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: got nearly boot out of the Barclays. No chuck in 655 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: theory this is to stay busy, right, should you be 656 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: allowed to sort of work on some stuff in the 657 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: public eye when people come to see the war swift? 658 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm torn on that one. 659 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 3: I understand him wanting to get his bearings in a 660 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 3: situation like this, you you lose your title, You want 661 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 3: to get your bearings again. You want to feel like 662 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: you're doing shity. You have a new guy training you. 663 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 3: I think, there you want to show off your new wrinkles. 664 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 3: But when a pattern is established in a fight, the 665 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 3: enthusiasm for that fight kind of leaves the room, and 666 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 3: then it becomes what happened. I think that when the 667 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 3: you know, when there's when there's literally no threat. I 668 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 3: thought it felt to me like that there's no threat 669 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 3: of this thing going any place. 670 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 2: Then we're not seeing through each minute's passing by. 671 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 3: It gets pretty boring, and I felt like he could 672 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 3: have done a little more. I mean, he was fighting 673 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 3: as safe as you can risk aversion right like he was. 674 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 3: He wanted to get through it, and he was happy 675 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 3: with it in the end, basically even talking about it. 676 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, he said the crowd could have booed till 677 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: they were were So there. 678 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 3: Was a defiance to what he was doing, and I'm like, 679 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 3: if that was his sole plan was to go in 680 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 3: there and come hell of high water and he didn't 681 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: care about the you know, getting the crowd engaged in it. 682 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: Then he said quickly the reason for this was he 683 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: had a falling out his old trainer, new camp with 684 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: new trainer k Coroma, who's the US national assistant coach. 685 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: They want to preserve him, they want to have longevity 686 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: in their career. They want to be more defensive, hit 687 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: and not get hit. I think why the crowd turned 688 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: so lustfully against him was there was a round five 689 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: moment for the second half of that where he turned 690 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: back into the old Jared Herd and he's landing combinations 691 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: and Santana's hurt, and he completely went away from that 692 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: the rest of the fight until the tenth round when 693 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: chas Santana got on his butt, you know, got out, 694 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: put put his foot on the gas and came after him. 695 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: Nice upper cut from Jaredhord to remind you he still 696 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: got it. I just hope when he moves back up 697 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: to the title level and this division's wild Jamel Charlo, 698 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: Tony Harrison, Jay Rock just got knocked out by Jason 699 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: Rozario last week. I hope he brings in a little 700 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: bit of that old guy that we fell in love with. 701 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, trug I think, I mean, 702 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: you can only domesticate a man so much well, and. 703 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 2: He is who he is. 704 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 3: I think at some point, like you can dial it back, 705 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: but I think that that other side comes back. 706 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: It will. 707 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: Those were the highlights from Brooklyn this weekend. There was 708 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: a low light in the main event. I want to 709 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: remind you see if you saw this, uh round nine 710 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: of Danny Garcia Ivan Redcotch. They're in the clinch and 711 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: Ivan Redcotch channels his inner Tyson holy Field too. There's 712 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: no ears that were harmed in this, but he bit 713 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: his neck, his chin, very vampire ishs now yeah, nou 714 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: veneers he had in there. No referee Benji Stevis, to 715 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: his credit, didn't see it. Garcia complained afterwards, there's no 716 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: follow called. Here's what's weird though, And I love me 717 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: some Ivan Redcotch. He's a good dude you get to 718 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: know him, but he's got that serial killer look and 719 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: he just laughed about it the whole time. Afterwards, he 720 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: went up to Danny and they talked about he's just 721 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: laughing and giggling. Should something be done here, Chuck? Should 722 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: the commission step in? 723 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 3: What gets me when you say that he has that look? 724 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: Is that he you know, according to what was said 725 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 3: he said Mike Tyson in the fight, like he said that, 726 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: like that's isn't that bizarre? That's bizarre behavior. So that 727 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 3: means it was sort of premeditating. It wasn't losing your mind. 728 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, to try what I'm saying, get it, get away 729 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: out of that fight, essentially right because he was panicking. 730 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what redcot, Oh, we have the footage 731 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: hair nice this show showtime. 732 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: Pay per view. 733 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, nineteen ninety eight, I believe, seven ninety seventy seven. Yeah, 734 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: look at that. I love the here's the best part 735 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: of this fight. When holy Field's like f you and 736 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: he starts he starts all like all right, you want 737 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: to fight and they start brawling before it stopped again. 738 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how miss Bills Lane let the fight 739 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: go on here for a little while, but wow, look 740 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: at that. I mean, that's certainly much worse in terms 741 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: of the uh intense. 742 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: It seemed. This seemed almost like homage by comparison. 743 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: It was just friggin weird. 744 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: It's very weird. 745 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: It was Redcotch's hair color. But yeah, hey, you know 746 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta stand out however you can there. 747 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: So wow. If I'm the commission though, I make sure 748 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen again. 749 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, I got to be gotta be something right, 750 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 3: Although that wasn't the other weirdest thing. 751 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: You know, Danny Garcia has six toes on his right foot. 752 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: If you know about that, I did not know this. 753 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, he he doesn't have shoes that fit the sixth toe, 754 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: so it like peeled all the skin off and he 755 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: was a bloody mess. Afterwards, he said that was part 756 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: of his why he was unable to get the knockout. 757 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: You have any extra body parts to talk about? 758 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: Talking about? None that I want to talk about. 759 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, hey, tip to tip over your shoulder this week. 760 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: By the way, Luke ordered it to that side of 761 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: the studio, just so let's set the record straight. All right, 762 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: let's merge. No, we won't merge boxing, and I mean 763 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: we'll head back over to MMA, A little bit of 764 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: mixture of boxing MMA. It's really mainstream sports Center ESPN 765 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: analysts Steven A. Smith. We all know what he said 766 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: on the ESPN broadcast after UFC two forty six, Connor 767 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: McGregor knocks out Cowboy Seroni in forty seconds. Steven A 768 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: on that post show cage side, Joe Rogan on one side, 769 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: Michael Leaves on the other, really did the whole Cowboy quit? 770 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: Cowboy was disappointing all of that. This is now blown 771 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: up into a little bit of an s storm. You 772 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: had Joe Rogan on his podcast give a long and 773 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: thorough explanation, thoughtful, thoughtful, basically saying, look, ESPN, you've got 774 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: much better analysts you could be and should be using, 775 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: especially with this marriage between ESPN and UFC. He brought 776 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: up Daniel Cormier. Why is Daniel Cormier not in that 777 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: spot that could have better explained to the general public 778 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: what really happened and not just come out and crap 779 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: on a veteran like Cowboy. It's weird because there's two extremes. 780 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: One extremist to watch that fight and go, oh, it's fixed. 781 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,719 Speaker 1: Didn't you see what happened? The other extremists to go, 782 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: Cowboy sucks, he's washed. Look at what happened, stephen A 783 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: sort of picked that second extreme Sure this didn't end 784 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: here though, Chuck Saturday night during the MMA in Boxing Action. 785 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: Stephen A responded after seeing it and put his own 786 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: video on Twitter, called it bullshit, went on and on, 787 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: and even Connor McGregor's jumping in on Twitter at Steven 788 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: DA Smith after hearing both sides, who's right, who's wrong? 789 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: Where are you gonna settle this? 790 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: I mean, Stephen A. 791 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: Smith is who he is, and I think that ESPN 792 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 3: understands that, right, And I just I think that the 793 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 3: divide is obviously he doesn't have the context to go 794 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 3: in there and speak on MMA. This particular sport is 795 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 3: very exclusive in the way that it's the people perceive it. 796 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 3: Any outsider coming in who wants to make a comment 797 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 3: on a guy who's a veteran like Cowboy Seroni, had 798 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 3: better have some kind of context for what they're saying, right, 799 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: Like I feel like if you go back to any 800 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 3: of Cowboys thirty three fights in the UFC before this, 801 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 3: you know, before going into this, If if you go 802 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 3: back to any of those, how many times has Steven A. 803 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 3: Smith had done like a postfight analysis or preview or anything. 804 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 3: How many times has he talked about him? He hasn't, 805 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 3: so there was no context basically to what he was saying. 806 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 3: So to make the accusation that it looked to me 807 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 3: like he quit to call it atrocious and call it disgusting, 808 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 3: that's going to stand out and it's going to rub 809 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 3: the main public who's watching this the wrong way. 810 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: And that's the MMA fans right. 811 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: He's literally just the more of the casual, He's more 812 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 3: of the casual infiltration of the sport and that ESPN 813 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 3: was using him. I was sitting right there when they 814 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 3: were doing it. I was sitting there watching him and 815 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 3: do the interview, and I was thinking at the time, like, 816 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: what could with Stephen A. Smith possibly be saying? And 817 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 3: then it blows up into this. 818 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: I was very surprised that he was allowed to be 819 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: in that spot. It's different when you go back to 820 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: the studio. Hey, let's bring in Stephen A. 821 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 2: Smith. 822 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: And by the way, Stephen A. Smith does have deserve power. 823 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: He's the highest rated by at ESPN. He brings consistent 824 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: ratings not just first take it, but beyond across multiple 825 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: sports tech. He's been in moonlight in the boxing game 826 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: for a while and people have dealt with takes like 827 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: this where you're sort of like, oh, you're being a 828 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: little bit of a blowhard. What I don't like is 829 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: the situation they put him in cage side. There's sort 830 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: of a branding on that that you are not only 831 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: an expert, but because with the relationship with ESPN and UFC, 832 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: it's almost saying, hey, UFC is on board with this 833 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: as well, right, I mean it's almost like you're standing 834 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: next to Joe Rogan, who's before this not an ESPN employee. 835 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: So Stephen A. Smith is wrong in his analysis. It's 836 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: wrong in the message that you put off when you're 837 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: representing a brand in a person a legend like Cowboy 838 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: and sort of But here's the deal that he's trying 839 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: to make, and I want to get your opinion. Steven 840 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: Ay Smith is saying this, I'm known for controversy, but 841 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: the numbers back me up. People come to me, this 842 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: is my opinion, and that's what it is. And I'm 843 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: on this show for a reason. And to a certain degree, 844 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: his reaction is not different than a lot of casual fans, right, 845 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: especially fans who aren't day to day hardcore fans. I 846 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: agree is it right to have somebody that is quote 847 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: unquote the potential voice of the fan in that spot, 848 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: or is it just better housed somewhere else in life. 849 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 3: I personally didn't have a problem with it. But where 850 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 3: you're when you say that, you know MMA fans, Joe 851 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 3: Rogan becomes the biggest one and he just happens to 852 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 3: be in that equation. So it should be mentioned on 853 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 3: Joe Rogan, so just like it should be mentioned if 854 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 3: if Steven A's running his own show, he should be 855 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 3: able to say anything he wants on that. It was 856 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 3: the confluence of putting them together that made the controversy right. 857 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 3: It was very unusual. But I personally have no problem 858 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 3: with a guy like steven A Smith, who I know 859 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 3: is a casual or just a guy who's more of 860 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 3: an observer specific events. He shows up for Connor MacGregor, 861 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 3: and I know he's around the Mayweather fight. 862 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 2: He comes around for Connor McGregor. 863 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 3: You know he's seeing what he sees and he's telling you, 864 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 3: So I know that there, I know that a casual 865 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 3: ESPN viewer is probably siding with him or taking what 866 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 3: he said to heart. 867 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: That's fine, that's interesting. It's just weird that the most 868 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,479 Speaker 1: mature guy in the room is now complete babyface turned 869 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: Connor McGregor, whose comments were like thorough and smarter. He 870 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: was like, know, Stephen, I'm sure we got we got 871 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: him to throw him up. He was basically like, no, Stephen, Uh, 872 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't because you said this. It was because you 873 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: iterated that rational era. I mean, look at this is 874 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: uh this is interesting. Yeah, yeah, Connor's right, this is 875 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: weird era we're in now with this news. It's a 876 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: new really nice Connor. I mean, it's gonna start delivering turkey, 877 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: so they needed to. I mean, this is interesting. But 878 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: to close on. 879 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: This snessman though he drops him from a helicopters go 880 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 2: ahead to. 881 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: Close on this? What happens next? Does Dan know White 882 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: call up the powers that be at ed ESPN and 883 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: we get in a room and we say, can we 884 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: compromise here? Can we get can we get our guys? 885 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 3: Dana is smart enough too to understand a good controversy, 886 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 3: right or stuff like this, because I feel like people 887 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 3: keep talking about his event, his pay per view, Connor 888 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 3: McGregor everything because of these guys. There are two big personalities. 889 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 3: Joe Rogan, you know, Joe Rogan is maybe the biggest 890 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 3: thing since Carson right now. You go to him, That's 891 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, and it's a big thing. And then 892 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 3: you get Steph n A Smith, who is who he is. 893 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 3: I just think that that can't be bad for business. 894 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 3: And I think that there's got to be a side 895 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 3: of Dana White that's like, let people quibble over it. 896 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 2: I love it. 897 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: I wonder if there's a side of him that says, 898 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: let's just make a fight, right Rogan against the Wesley 899 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: Snipes of the referen we should have saw Snipes Rogan. 900 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: That was gonna be a thing one time there. But wow, wow, wow, 901 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: that did happen. I can't believe it. 902 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 3: Ye. 903 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: Also this past week, look, the Connor McGregor narrative from 904 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: the hangover of UFC two forty six is still strong. 905 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: The major conversation in combat sports still revolves around what 906 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: would be next for Connor. Last week, of course, we 907 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: debated the merits between should it be Habib, should it 908 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: be Jorge mos Vidal. Boxers though entered the equation because 909 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: of the success of maymac One, you got Manny Paciel, 910 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: you got Floyd Mayweather rematch, and now Chuck, You've got 911 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: an interesting addition. First, Bob aarm, longtime promoter, top rank, 912 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer eighty eight years old, loves him 913 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: some skinhead white imma. From his famous quote to Ariel Hawani. 914 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: Uh not only offered his unbeaten welterweight champion Terrence off 915 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: the box, which was normal, it's sort of desperate, like here, 916 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: let's give him some attention, but he went to the 917 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: next level saying, we'll do a two fight deal in 918 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: which Terrence Crawford will go into the octagon first and 919 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: then come back in box. Because Terrence Crawford has a 920 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: wrestling background. 921 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 2: Now he said he could pin him. 922 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: Now. Deeper on that wrestling background was that his extended 923 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: family and his kids have amateur wrestling backgrounds. Terrence Crawford 924 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: wrestled in middle school. He still rolls around on the 925 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: mets today. Bob certainly muddied the waters here with the 926 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: comments he went public where he said that Terence Crawford 927 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: would fight him in the cage, they'd go to boxing 928 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 1: three months later, and you can't count out Terrence because 929 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: he's a better wrestler and as you just said, he 930 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: would pin him. So we can press time, but we 931 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,439 Speaker 1: can call time out. 932 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 2: This shows the full range of it. 933 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: Let's let's take a listen here. If Jay, if you 934 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 1: got this in the back. 935 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 4: Was willing to fight Connor McGregor on his turf, you know, 936 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 4: I mean in the octagon and then they can fight 937 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 4: three months later in the boxing ring, and that's a 938 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 4: better test. And I think Crawfit's a really tough dude. 939 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 4: He has a wrestling background and I think he would 940 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 4: do very well in the octagon with Connor mcgreg They're 941 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 4: willing to fight him in a boxing ring where McGregor 942 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 4: doesn't have much of a chance. 943 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: So let's even it out. Wow, I mean, Chuck, The 944 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: question here is which d are we gonna go with? 945 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: Is this daring, delusional, desperate, dongtastic. Look, here's my thing 946 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: about this, Grandpa, you're eighty eight, You're a genius, You're 947 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: we know what you're doing. You're trying to get your guy, 948 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: Terrence Crawford, who might be the best boxer puff upound 949 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: of the world, but is on that other side of 950 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: the street. In boxing business, the politics cannot get the 951 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: big fights right now with the erro Spence's many Paciells, 952 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: all the people we talked about for Danny Garcia just 953 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 1: a few minutes ago. You get the idea of, hey, 954 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,240 Speaker 1: come to us, we'll box you. Because that's a desperate 955 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 1: move that's meant to get attention. Yes, but Terrence Crawford 956 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: ain't old here looking for a payday. He is in 957 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: the absolute prime of his career. He might be the 958 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: best in boxing. This is beyond desperate. This is disappointing. 959 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: How about another d because to me, it's just a 960 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: shameless It's almost the potential of hourring out your guy, 961 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: giving him an obvious l that Okay, what if he 962 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: gets a head kick, You're gonna come back three months 963 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,919 Speaker 1: later and box. Like I know I'm probably giving too 964 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: much airspace to this already, but this is almost disappointing 965 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: for me, even if the only goal is to get attention. 966 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 2: It's a weird one. 967 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 3: It's so left field, but it just tells you about 968 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 3: the gravitational pool of econom McGregor. Event his name comes 969 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 3: back in all of a sudden, it's a sweet steakes. 970 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 3: Everybody wants involved, That's what it seemed like. 971 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 2: To me. 972 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 3: It's like, well, you know, we should put our guy 973 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 3: in that conversation too, and it just it really makes 974 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 3: no sense. 975 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 2: It really makes no sense. But saying that he would 976 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 2: pin McGregor, it's just he doesn't even he doesn't even 977 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 2: know the sport. He doesn't know what he was. 978 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: I used to watch, you know, I'm a I'm almost 979 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: a day one ish MMA guy, people the kimples. Do 980 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 1: you haven't made casual the show? Dude, I've been watching 981 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: since UFC two on black Box illegal pay per view. 982 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: I used to UFC two. I used to watch with 983 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 1: my dad. I mean, come on, when when Joe Soun's 984 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: getting punched in the in the narvege like a life 985 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: changing moment. Thank you Keith Ackney for sending Joe some 986 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: to hell because he deserved us. My dad even so, 987 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: we were watching from day one. Yet, even up to 988 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: like three years ago. I always tell the story. My 989 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: dad was still like, you cover that bare knuckle stuff 990 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 1: right in the cage. And I'm like, well, no, it's MMA, 991 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: like they've got. He's like, oh, it's called MMA now. 992 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, Dad, there's like rules. He's like, but 993 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: it's still like, no rules. You can still like pull 994 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: hair and kick in the balls right, And I'm like, no, Dad, 995 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: it's an actual sport, like Bob Grandpa, like you know, 996 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,720 Speaker 1: Bob Verham is one of the best. He's a hilarious 997 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,720 Speaker 1: interview as an advocate for marijuana in his native Las Vegas, 998 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: there where he lives, and and he does it legally. 999 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: This is something that an idea that would spark off. 1000 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: While you're sparking up, maybe I should have stayed there, Chuck. Okay, look, 1001 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: if you're Terrence Crawford, why are you entertaining this? Is 1002 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 1: it just to get his name out? This is really stupid. 1003 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 3: It does It does feel like it's just like throwing 1004 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 3: your name into the most relevant pot. You know, but 1005 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 3: he doesn't. You're right, he doesn't need to do this. 1006 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 3: He doesn't even need to have his name attached to 1007 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 3: something like this. 1008 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: But gun to your head, who does Connor face next? 1009 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 3: I think it'd be maswital I know that, I know 1010 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 3: I watched last week. I know where you stand on this, 1011 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 3: but I think Masvidal would be the guy. 1012 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 2: I just think that you're never. 1013 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 3: Going to get Mazvedal at a higher point than he 1014 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 3: is right now, and that point is probably where Connor 1015 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 3: should you know. 1016 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 2: That's the kind of that's the kind of star you 1017 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 2: want to have going against Conor McGregor. 1018 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: At this point, I say, stay busy with Nate three 1019 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: and then do the. 1020 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 3: I've been seeing that one pick up a lot later 1021 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 3: this year. I just I mean, if it'd been it 1022 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 3: would have been great if Nate had won. And I 1023 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 3: know the Cowboy Seronia is not the greatest gauge either 1024 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 3: for where for all that stuff, but I wish Nate 1025 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 3: had won. It would have been a no brainer, right, 1026 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 3: Like you make that trilogy fight. 1027 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,760 Speaker 2: I just feel like their momentum a little different. 1028 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 3: I also do think, though, that Nate is transcendent enough 1029 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 3: of a star that you could plug him in. It 1030 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 3: doesn't matter what happened in his last fight. You just 1031 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 3: plug him in because you know that that's going to do. 1032 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: You agree with me that the best fight wouldn't be next, 1033 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: but the best, the most ie pleasing fight would be 1034 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: Connor and Tony him where no one's talking about Tony 1035 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,879 Speaker 1: actually beating Habib, even though I think he's the only 1036 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 1: guy who has a legitimate chance to do that. 1037 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 3: It's funny you say that, because I have heard people 1038 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 3: talking about this a little bit, but I feel like 1039 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 3: the road to Tony is just so different than the 1040 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 3: road to kuld be who he's already fought, you know, 1041 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,919 Speaker 3: things like that. But I personally would love to see 1042 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 3: that just for the chaotic elements of how Tony Ferguson 1043 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 3: goes into a fight. And I would like to see 1044 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,240 Speaker 3: how Connor. Honestly, he's one of the better game planners 1045 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 3: there is. He's obsessed when like kind of breaking down 1046 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 3: guy's tendencies and holes. I would love to know what 1047 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 3: he comes up with for a guy like Tony Ferguson. 1048 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 2: When you love to see that. 1049 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: What if, man, what if either Tony or Habib it's 1050 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: tripped on a wire or or whatever. I don't want 1051 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: to see that fight fall apart, but it would just 1052 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: be interesting if Connor jumped in there in April and 1053 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: then the Winner got whoever was was out. 1054 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,760 Speaker 3: It's given the track record of their four times being booked. 1055 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't seem out of the realm possibility. 1056 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: If it was Tony and Connor for an interim belt 1057 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: in the Winner. I think any combination right now, it's 1058 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: what a time. That's why people are willing to sell 1059 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 1: their souls to get into the Connor conversation. All right, 1060 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: sell it away. Okay, sorry my cup condom here. Sorry, 1061 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 1: all right, that is the top news of the week. 1062 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 1: Now we want to hear from you, the people. We 1063 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: want to remind you, of course, to subscribe on YouTube. 1064 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: We want to get these numbers up. We want to 1065 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: see more, Chuck, subscribe, all right, tell your friends on 1066 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 1: the show as well. But now we want to hear 1067 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: from you in a segment we call d MS from Donks. 1068 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 2: That's my favorite. 1069 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: Now full disclosure here, g Charles Mindenhall, we didn't see 1070 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: these beforehand. There's a wild card here. Okay, so people 1071 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: want to disparage Luke. We'll tell all right, here we go, 1072 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: let's load it up. Let's look Jay and put it 1073 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: in the holster. J all right, yeah, there we go. 1074 00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: We're live. We'll do it live. Never heard anybody right, 1075 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: This is great? So yeah, Chuck, it was Donathan after them, 1076 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, talking to this yellow All right, here we 1077 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: go from Gaff Pierre love that guy, by the way, 1078 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: Rip Mamba, what is your favorite Kobe moment? Obviously, Look, 1079 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 1: we're gonna have more on this later in the show, 1080 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: but rip to the Lakers legend and the legend Kobe 1081 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: Bryan over your shoulder of course the Kobe Bryant's Mused 1082 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 1: documentary on Showtime as well. But what is your favorite 1083 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: Kobe moment? Man? 1084 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 3: I mean there there are a lot actually, but one points. 1085 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 3: I mean, come on, man, he had fifty five and 1086 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 3: a half in that game, and I think that there 1087 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 3: was a moment where I really believed he could get 1088 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 3: Wilt Chamberlain's you know, record, which seems insane. 1089 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: I mean, that is possible. It's like Cy Young's five 1090 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: hundred and thirteen wins in baseball. It's like, it's almost 1091 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: unreasonable because a game would have to be structured in 1092 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: such an illogical way. 1093 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:54,240 Speaker 2: Exactly. 1094 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, that game was competitive and Kobe actually needed to 1095 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 1: do that to win. 1096 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that Toronto. 1097 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 3: I think that that one probably stands out the most, 1098 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 3: But there were so many times that he made game 1099 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 3: winning shots. Just ice in his veins he wanted the ball. 1100 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 3: I saw somebody mentioned on East Fan during their day 1101 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 3: of eulogie basically, but they were saying, like, you know, 1102 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 3: it was a special kind of competitive makeup right to 1103 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 3: like say, I'll live with the consequences of missing, but 1104 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 3: he would rarely miss that shot. I just think that 1105 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 3: there are so many moments it's like he is a 1106 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 3: true legend in that game. 1107 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely. My favorite moment is right when he became Kobe Bryant. 1108 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 1: Was the two thousand Finals against the Pacers. It was 1109 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 1: Game four, Shaq went down with that injury or no, 1110 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Kobe was coming back from the ankle injury. 1111 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: Shack follows out. It's Lakers Pacers. They go into overtime 1112 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: with no Shack. Kobe steps up and he's like, guys, 1113 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: I got this. I don't know if you remember the 1114 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: close of that game in overtime, hit jump shot after 1115 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: jump shot, and after that clinching one timeout was called 1116 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: and he did this walking back to the bench like 1117 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: don't come and celebrate with me. We got this. And 1118 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: it's just one of those subconscious things that like I 1119 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: could be at home and getting stressed out, like, oh crap, 1120 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta fit into a somehow tie the 1121 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 1: top button this weekend. When I go on showtime and 1122 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 1: put a tie on, I'm getting kind of fact. I 1123 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,919 Speaker 1: got this. I got this. Okay, just calm it down. 1124 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: I got this. And it was one of those iconic 1125 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: moments in Wow Wow, I mean you want to talk, 1126 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,439 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that the gaff Pierce for that. Moving 1127 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: on dunk me here? Okay, at sure Reeves, do you 1128 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: think having individuals like Steven A. Smith commenting on the 1129 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: UFC events is positive in the long run or does 1130 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 1: more harm than good for the perception of the sport? 1131 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: We obviously went into detail on this, but sort of 1132 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 1: that bigger picture. 1133 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 2: I don't see him hurting it at all. 1134 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: Is it worth the squeeze of the fact that if 1135 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 1: Steven A is on the screen and you're flipping through, 1136 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 1: which I know is not really the thing that happens 1137 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: anymore too often flipping through in the on demand era? 1138 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: But would you catch me? 1139 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 2: Nae. 1140 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 3: Smith is more known for opinion than being right correct. 1141 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 3: I mean, everybody understands what. 1142 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: He's doing and Kevin Durant, he'll do it. 1143 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 2: He's doing this, man. 1144 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,399 Speaker 3: I think just given the fact that he is who 1145 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 3: he is and people understand who he is, he cannot 1146 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 3: do harm to a sport. Nobody's going to take him 1147 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 3: literally in a face value, even if he's as ignorant 1148 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 3: as they come, because he's Stephen A. 1149 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 2: Smith. 1150 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 3: It's not like he's got this great track record, but 1151 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 3: we love he's got this fetish for MMA, and he 1152 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 3: wants to talk about it, but he's always wrong. 1153 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 2: He's kind of wrong in other sports as often. 1154 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 3: So I'm like, I just feel like people take whatever 1155 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 3: he says with the grain of salt anyway. It's just 1156 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 3: more argumentative and an opinion based So it's like, you know, 1157 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 3: I don't really think he can personally do MMA any harm. 1158 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: I guess it depends on more harm than I know 1159 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: who you are as a fan. If you're a casual fan, 1160 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: it's it's something you're rolling the dice with. It's fun. 1161 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,919 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, let's see him go off and piss 1162 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 1: off the seeing it. But if you're a hardcore you know, 1163 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: and I know if I'm watching that, I'm sort of 1164 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 1: like you. 1165 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 2: You worked at ESPN. Did you ever talk to Steve 1166 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 2: and a just get in convers you have. 1167 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: A little bit. I like Stevens. I mean, I've dealt 1168 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: with him in the boxing realm because he's done a 1169 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: lot of boxing coverage as well, and. 1170 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 2: Talk to him a lot about boxing too. 1171 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 1: I certainly respect. I mean to pump up showtime here, 1172 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 1: all the fantastic, all the smoke. Oh yeah, he was 1173 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: great on to in sometimes digital programs you really get 1174 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: a chance to get a feel of who he is 1175 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 1: and the you know, the toughness of who he is 1176 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 1: as a person, to get to where he is in 1177 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: his career. But uh yeah, after after a UFC fight, 1178 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 1: I want to see Daniel Clay. 1179 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 3: I can appreciate it too, because you know these pro 1180 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,800 Speaker 3: athletes and all these you know, it's it's very difficult 1181 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,879 Speaker 3: to get to go from being basically being a writer, 1182 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 3: like a beat writer, whatever his trajector was in newspapers, 1183 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 3: to being respected essentially by everybody in terms of the 1184 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,280 Speaker 3: sports world, like you know what I mean. They treat 1185 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,399 Speaker 3: him as an equal and in so many situations and 1186 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 3: he handles himself. He's he's shown that he can grow 1187 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 3: into that role. 1188 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 1: I respect anybody. Look, we're specialists. You know, you and 1189 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: I would cover combat sports. It's what we've always done. 1190 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,879 Speaker 1: I respect anybody, whether you're like a national radio host, 1191 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 1: anybody that can can carve out a niche in every 1192 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: area and have a competitive, definitive opinion. Now in this case, 1193 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 1: we're calling and to question Stephen A. Smith's opinion. But understand, this. 1194 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 3: Isn't and his opinion wasn't that ignorant. It was just 1195 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 3: without context. If you remember, Skip Bayless was the one 1196 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 3: who said that Nick Nate Diaz used sumo style rusting 1197 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 3: to pin Connor McGregor. 1198 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: Now that's jail clon on Jalen Rose, he not only 1199 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: did he give up eighty one points to Kobe in 1200 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 1: that game, but Jalen Rose recently on ESPN said that 1201 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 1: Lomachenko needs to fight Canelo. Wow, A real quick on 1202 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: that UFC Raleigh broadcast, That combination of Michael Bisbaying and 1203 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: Daniel Krman the same announced team was fantastic. The interplay 1204 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 1: of love hate it was very Campbell Thomas if you 1205 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was almost where Brendan Fitzgerald wasn't. 1206 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 1: It was almost not needed because the two of them. 1207 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 2: Were It's just taking over the broadcast in ornament. 1208 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:32,800 Speaker 4: No. 1209 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 2: I thought it was great too. Man. 1210 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 3: I'd like to see them do that more often. It's 1211 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 3: funny when they experiment. I feel like they sometimes stumble 1212 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 3: on these things. When remember they went to the three 1213 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 3: men when they brought in like dominant Cruz and I 1214 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 3: I like that. I liked them to experiment, but I 1215 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 3: really enjoyed that as well. 1216 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: Randy Coutur still the best, still the best, think so 1217 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,720 Speaker 1: still the best? Wow an MMA breakdown on a broadcast. 1218 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: I love going to the UFC fight pass, going back 1219 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:54,840 Speaker 1: to the old fights. I know he still works with 1220 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: PFL and stuff, but yeah, I love that. All right, 1221 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: let's let's keep it going here, you got any more 1222 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:06,439 Speaker 1: donk donks donk Toberfest at Jamie SAFC ninety five? All right? 1223 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,359 Speaker 1: Why are people so high on gaig Gee? I had 1224 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 1: a long argument with Luke this weekend. He hates my 1225 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: gaates Chi. Pronounce you, okay, gage gaig g a g 1226 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: e u I gage g? Why are people so high 1227 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: on gaatee Chi and pick him to beat Connor? He's 1228 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 1: obviously good, but his best wins are probably Barboza and Cowboy, 1229 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,800 Speaker 1: two guys on bad runs, and has two l's to 1230 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 1: people Connor be this is an interesting question, okay, because 1231 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 1: because of this, justin gage G is in that conversation 1232 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 1: of potential Connor upon it, you can talk yourself into, Hey, 1233 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: maybe Connor should stay busy and just wait for the 1234 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 1: winner of Tony and Habiben. And in fight gai Gee, yes, 1235 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 1: you'd be fighting a cyborg who you can lose to it, 1236 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: because justin Gage g is can walk through punishment and 1237 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 1: just keep coming. But I think stylistically, I'm I don't 1238 00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: think Jamie's too far off here. That's the perfect matchup 1239 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: for Connor McGregor's style, his speed and precision to expose. 1240 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,879 Speaker 3: No, I agree with you one hundred percent. I think 1241 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 3: that we always sleep on the element of hysteria and fighting, right, Like, 1242 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 3: if there's a guy who goes out there and he 1243 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 3: wants to just bite down on his mouthpiece and throw down, 1244 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,240 Speaker 3: and he does that consistently and he wins, and sometimes 1245 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 3: he adds just enough of a wrinkle to be like, oh, 1246 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 3: he's improving, he's doing these things. It's enough to sell 1247 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 3: hysteria that like, oh my god, I want to see 1248 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 3: that guy against you know, this guy or this guy, 1249 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 3: this guy. It's a natural want to want to see 1250 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 3: a guy who's going to bring that kind of fight, 1251 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 3: an accommodating fight to Connor McGregor. 1252 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 2: So I think that that's why it's there. 1253 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 3: I wouldn't necessarily say that he's beat He has the 1254 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 3: best resume he did. I mean, he's won some fights, 1255 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 3: but even as Luis Palomino fights, I mean he could 1256 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:42,399 Speaker 3: lost any of these. 1257 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 2: I mean he goes in there and plays roulette. 1258 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 1: I mean what it does to Gauge. She's credit Gaugee's credit. 1259 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: You really are struggling. He's added wrinkles to his game. 1260 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 1: This win streak he's on, he's showing you that he 1261 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 1: can be the caveman, but he can polish it up 1262 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 1: a little. Yes, if Connor was unable to get him away, 1263 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: and then we see late rounds, Connor, yes, you're always 1264 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 1: in in danger, hair, but I think he would light 1265 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: them up. And look, when Gayge has lost on the 1266 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 1: highest level, it's been Eddie and Dustin willing to take 1267 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 1: punishment and then use their precision and technique to get 1268 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: him out of this. 1269 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 3: It would be it was I think Connor, going back 1270 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 3: to what we're talking about earlier, this is such a 1271 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,720 Speaker 3: precise game planner, Like he breaks down tendency so well 1272 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 3: that I think he would pick apart Gaigee. I would 1273 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 3: just say that right now. I think that would be 1274 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 3: the one fight out there of all these guys that 1275 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 3: people keep mentioning that I would completely favor con McGregor. 1276 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: With you and you keep talking about hysteria, I'm thinking 1277 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 1: deafly sorry, thinking deafth leopard oh, here we go. Let's 1278 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: let's keep it. Let's keep too late, too late, all right? 1279 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,919 Speaker 1: All right? You got any more of them, don'ts? All right? 1280 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: At pun fifteen hour three underscore five? 1281 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 2: Oh? Is that? 1282 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 1: Some are those? 1283 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 2: The launch codes is fifteen hours? 1284 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,800 Speaker 1: All right? Don't fifteen hour energy drink? How many Henry 1285 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,400 Speaker 1: sa judos are needed to win against one steep a problem? 1286 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 2: I haven't seen it question like this in a long time. Man. 1287 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 1: I used to get the bags because I was in 1288 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 1: line at media dayt UFC two forty six, all right, 1289 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 1: and you know the clock's ticking. You're like three away 1290 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 1: from getting somebody, and you're like, man, we need this interview. 1291 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,880 Speaker 1: And somebody in front of you is like boxers or briefs, 1292 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: which I know five steep a Michi just be able 1293 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,839 Speaker 1: to beat five anxiety, Yeah, five rhinos in a fight. 1294 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: And it's like everybody wants to be the shmo. There's 1295 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,919 Speaker 1: only one schmo. Let the shmo be the shmo. Stop 1296 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: being the door there was before Schmo. 1297 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 3: I don't know who that shmo was, but but they've 1298 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 3: been asking these kind of questions a long time and 1299 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 3: I don't even know should we dig that want you 1300 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 3: want to answer in. 1301 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: The donks they fought for this question, Okay, entertain them. 1302 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:35,879 Speaker 2: And it was Steep and Miochi. We're talking about. 1303 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,359 Speaker 3: So how many shudos I would say, I would say 1304 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 3: two could get it done. 1305 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 2: I'd say two could get it done. 1306 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 1: The only uh, there's only one man though, who could 1307 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 1: eliminate this cringe in our lives, and it is jose Aldo. Yeah, 1308 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 1: he's the He's the hero we need. Are you ready 1309 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 1: for this one thirty five? 1310 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,360 Speaker 2: I am no, I'm not really. 1311 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys broke this one down, 1312 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,919 Speaker 3: but that one that that particular fight doesn't do much 1313 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,319 Speaker 3: for me. But I I'm I'm kind of with you. 1314 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 3: I see what your sentiment is there. Although if you 1315 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 3: can sort of put the cringe behind a little bit. 1316 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 1: Every time I think about cringe Tudo putting diapers on 1317 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,839 Speaker 1: his championship belts and then putting out the Instagram video, 1318 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 1: I get more sterile. All right, Hey, let's roll on. 1319 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:14,720 Speaker 1: You got anymore? 1320 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 2: Don't hard to get? 1321 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: Hard to get at my age? 1322 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1323 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:23,359 Speaker 1: Yeah? Wow. They underscore Cherry's favorite nineties action movies. This 1324 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: is what I'm talking about right here, this is my domain. 1325 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 1: This is how I get down. 1326 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,399 Speaker 2: Okay, action movies, all right, go ahead, what do you got? 1327 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 1: The best nineties action movie doubles as the best Steven 1328 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 1: Sagall movie, And people don't think about it. When people 1329 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,839 Speaker 1: think Steven Sagal, they think out for Justice as this 1330 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 1: it's his version of Commando, or they think Above the 1331 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 1: Law his first one, which is the most legitimate Stephen 1332 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,720 Speaker 1: Sagall movie, Or maybe they think of the blockbuster Under 1333 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,200 Speaker 1: Siege with Tommy Lee Jones and Gary Busey his main, biggest, 1334 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 1: mainstream one, but Marked for Death is with question the 1335 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 1: best action movies of the nineties. It is gritty and raw. 1336 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,839 Speaker 1: The screw Face twins hope they're not triplets. I mean really, 1337 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 1: I've spent most of my youth debating which Screwface twin 1338 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: died worse? Was it? Was it the guy who got 1339 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 1: the sword to the satchel or the guy who got 1340 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: his head chopped off and then the rest of his 1341 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 1: body fell down the at the at the bottom. 1342 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 2: God, I can't even I don't know. I don't. 1343 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 1: Face is uh sitting there playing dominoes in the room 1344 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 1: and his henchman comes up and whispers to him that 1345 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:34,319 Speaker 1: steven Sagall had just like murdered, and he goes and 1346 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 1: then he's like yeah, and then he slices the leg 1347 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: off the table they're playing on and kills his own 1348 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,400 Speaker 1: henchmen out of anger. That's a villain right there. 1349 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 3: Face All right, well now I've got to put that 1350 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:45,720 Speaker 3: on my little Netflix. 1351 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: Okay, what's your answer, Chuck? You lived the nineties, Come on, 1352 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 1: bro up on the mountains in Colorado. A lot of buds. 1353 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 3: Like would like true romance or something like would that 1354 00:55:58,719 --> 00:55:59,839 Speaker 3: be considered an action? 1355 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,840 Speaker 1: I mean there's there's actually is that Tarantino? 1356 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 2: That's the first Tarantino? Yeah, see, I like things like that. 1357 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 3: I'm not the biggest, like the big car chase explosions 1358 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 3: and how you know all that stuff. 1359 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 2: I'm not the biggest. 1360 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,360 Speaker 1: Well, the eighties and nineties sometimes blend together because of 1361 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,520 Speaker 1: the three s's right, Stallone, Schwarzenegger, and Segal started in 1362 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 1: the eighties and in the North, remember speaking, I don't, 1363 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,280 Speaker 1: I don't. Those are the three kings of action movies. 1364 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, you don't nothing else, nothing else, nothing from 1365 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 1: what's your favorite Stallone movie? Here? 1366 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 2: My favorite Stallone movie Rocky four. 1367 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: Well, the Rockies are almost their setlate thing Cobra Cobra's fantasm. 1368 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 2: That was good. Uh, though I loved Rambo. I mean, 1369 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 2: come on, yeah, that was a good one. The first 1370 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,319 Speaker 2: one was awesome. Like, I don't know if. 1371 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 1: We're talking Arnold Commando is is just a triumphant Alsa 1372 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: Milano is in that. She's in that, yes as well? 1373 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 1: And uh my favorite Welle is raw Deal Schwarzenegger because 1374 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 1: he plays he plays a mafia guy, you know what 1375 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 1: I mean? 1376 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1377 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: Remember his middle initials? S? I'm sorry, P. They ask 1378 00:56:58,719 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 1: him what the peace stands for? 1379 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 2: Don't remember this part? 1380 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: All right? Yeah, hey it was great, but I'll just 1381 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 1: keep it. Yeah, that's fine, all right, you got any 1382 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 1: you got anymore? Can we talk about Dick? Now? All right? Jay, 1383 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 1: we're live? Okay, here we go, Here we go? Wow? 1384 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 1: Any tips for guys looking to impress a woman on 1385 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 1: a date? 1386 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 2: Wow? 1387 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 1: Who's that from? Jay? Is that your d M S? 1388 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,440 Speaker 2: Who would bother asking any. 1389 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,360 Speaker 1: Tips for me? I'm I'm an old married guy post sectomy. 1390 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you want to do? 1391 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 2: All right? 1392 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 1: Chuck? 1393 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 3: You know, I think the operative word there is tips. 1394 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 3: Isn't that what this is all about? 1395 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 1: They're trying to get me? But come on, they're just 1396 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 1: the tip. Yeah, just for a second, Chuck, do you 1397 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 1: have any tips for a young man? You're you're a 1398 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 1: father of a son. Yeah, My kids are turning twelve 1399 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 1: this week. They're boys soon. We're gonna have to give 1400 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 1: them this this this talk. Okay, tips on a first date, 1401 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 1: have fresh breath, Yeah, look in eye, Dennissan looking I right, yeah, 1402 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 1: don't look down? Look and I do you go for 1403 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:05,480 Speaker 1: the you go for the smooch at the end of 1404 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 1: the first state, tu, it does make it. 1405 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 3: You gotta read the situation with you, but it does 1406 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 3: make a statement. But if all the signs are saying, 1407 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 3: don't you don't write, I don't know. 1408 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 1: See, I don't think we can connect with the new generation. 1409 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 1: These people can just swipe and they're banging. Oh I'm 1410 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 1: banging out. Just like we didn't have the internet. We 1411 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 1: had to go up to that. We had to walk 1412 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,200 Speaker 1: to chicks and ask for a phone number uphill both 1413 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 1: ways and then ask for a phone number. And the 1414 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 1: first of all, you got to freak out to ask 1415 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 1: for the phone number, which is just a an anxiety moment. 1416 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 1: Then you need to go home and sit by the 1417 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 1: phone and like dial almost all the numbers. But then yeah, yeah, 1418 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 1: as you can actually general Luke Thomas and just show 1419 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 1: up and yeah, yeah, all right, thank you, thank you, nothing. 1420 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,120 Speaker 2: Truck nothing everything you said? 1421 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,919 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you got any tips? Yeah, okay, keep it going? 1422 00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 1: Is that? It is? 1423 00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 4: That? 1424 00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 2: It all right? 1425 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 1: It's time. I'm for the best segment in all of 1426 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 1: combat sports. This is where we searched the globe for 1427 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 1: the good, the bad, and the ugly hashtag ugly emphasis 1428 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 1: on ugly for our first one. It's called have you 1429 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 1: seen this ship? Speaking of stephen A. Smith, he has 1430 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 1: been in the headlines, not just for the Joe Rogan, 1431 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 1: but you have seen this ship awful video. Now, look, 1432 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 1: I'll give him credit. He's a man in his fifties 1433 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 1: trying to stay in. He's got the wife beater on, 1434 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,920 Speaker 1: He's got the Donkey Kong basement video game set up. 1435 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 1: Look at that guy. Look at Teddy Long. I was 1436 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 1: gonna say, has there been anything worse than Stephenny Smith? 1437 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 1: Maybe Teddy Long, but I think there's one more that's worse. 1438 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 1: Think of shadow boxing. What's the worst shadow box man? 1439 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 1: It is? Oh my god, head movement movement, head move 1440 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 1: Where did that footage come from Steve step I don't 1441 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 1: know who floated that. That'd be a nice sort of 1442 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 1: origin story. Who got that out there? But wow? All right, yes, okay, 1443 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna go on to roll on this weekend, there 1444 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 1: was a boxing card of Minneapolis headline by Caleb Truck 1445 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 1: just on the Underguard, I saw your boy, forty two 1446 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 1: year old Colin Sangster and the red shorts got dropped 1447 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 1: by four hundred and twelve pound Andrew case Allen. But 1448 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 1: Sangster comes back. Oh my god, Wow, that's a lot 1449 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 1: of great a quake. Butterb just rolled over his grave 1450 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 1: on that one. Wow. Who licensed this? Ish, Chuck? 1451 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:26,920 Speaker 2: That's what I was just wondering. 1452 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 1: This was off TV and. 1453 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,680 Speaker 2: Yeah damn, let's see that again. 1454 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 1: I mean, how are we gonna get him. 1455 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 2: Out of there? 1456 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 1: Right? 1457 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 2: Well? 1458 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: Look he scored, then this might be round of the year, 1459 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 1: right here, Chuck. I mean, this was fantastic, right. These 1460 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,360 Speaker 1: guys have a combined like four profights. I don't mean 1461 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 1: to clown on them, but I don't know how you're 1462 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 1: sanctioning this. 1463 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 3: Wow, damn good night timing beat beat speed, Yeah, yeah, wow, okay, 1464 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 3: come here are you ticklish? 1465 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:53,880 Speaker 4: Yes? 1466 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 1: Okay, let's roll on. Hey, we got head Kicks from Hell. 1467 01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:58,720 Speaker 1: I got three of them for you. This is head 1468 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 1: Kicks from Hell one. Check out this crew. He stepped up. 1469 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:03,760 Speaker 1: Did you see that? 1470 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:04,920 Speaker 2: Whoa? 1471 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 1: Did he kick from the dog or did he use 1472 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,000 Speaker 1: the gong as a as a as a jump off point? 1473 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 2: Complete? 1474 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 1: Uh? Look at the cyborg look in his eyes? Is 1475 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 1: this Dakistan he's gonna look at this is like Steve 1476 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 1: Austin style kick to the dog and get the attention. 1477 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 1: Step up. 1478 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 2: It's amazing. Wow, you're right. What's chilling about that? As 1479 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 2: his reaction. 1480 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 1: His reaction afterwards is like, oh, yeah, dude, I'll you know, please, 1481 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 1: you know I do this all day here, I do 1482 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 1: this all day. Do you know where that guy on that? 1483 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 1: Do you know where that guy in the left one? 1484 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 2: I want to see the response of the people behind here. 1485 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 2: You react to this? 1486 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:38,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, in another language. I don't know where it's going 1487 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 1: right there, but I'm sorry you the time. Oh my god. Yeah, 1488 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 1: he is very a vetchkin like Jay, You're right, the 1489 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 1: very very Russian. I don't know if he's just in 1490 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 1: a hurry, but wow, wow, that's the head Kicks from 1491 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,240 Speaker 1: Hell Volume one. Let's move on to volume two. This 1492 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,360 Speaker 1: is in amoy Thai. These guys are always sending each 1493 01:01:55,360 --> 01:02:00,080 Speaker 1: other down. Oh my god, random tie fellow, you've. 1494 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,520 Speaker 2: He looks scared for him and what he might have done. 1495 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how these guys live. I just assume 1496 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 1: that all these young gentlemen die when they're thirty. You know, 1497 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 1: the hell of a drug that is violent. Oh my god. 1498 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,040 Speaker 1: All right, head Kicks from Hell Volume three. Let's go 1499 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 1: to taekwondo. Check out this death blow. Oh that's like 1500 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 1: a reverse ghetto blaster. 1501 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:24,320 Speaker 2: The head gear is not going to do. 1502 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 1: Shout out to bad news Brown, good lord forfeit your soul. 1503 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 1: Oh wow, I could watch this. How violent is that? 1504 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 1: There's head gear too. It landed, It landed. You could 1505 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 1: see the the ghosts just come out of that guy's body. 1506 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 2: At this. That's how you punish aggression. 1507 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 1: Brian, Oh my god, like faces of death. 1508 01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 2: There. 1509 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:51,840 Speaker 1: We can't show the video of the snake killing the kid, 1510 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 1: but we can show this. Come on, wow, all right, hey, yeah, 1511 01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:58,800 Speaker 1: instant karma. The next you ever play a joke on 1512 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,200 Speaker 1: your friend, you tap him on the back, you know, 1513 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 1: try to jump out of the way. Oh wow, that's 1514 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 1: golden right there. Wow to the showers. R. Kelly, this 1515 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 1: is unbelievable. 1516 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 2: Is it real? 1517 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 1: Though? I don't know that. I mean he fell in 1518 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 1: the water afterwards, chuck, guy's hanging out and playing. That's 1519 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 1: how men do, That's how men get down. Okay, oh man, 1520 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 1: rinse and repeat. This is awful this. 1521 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't have played this prank to begin Yeah. 1522 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 1: I turned him into a urinal. Okay, don't do you 1523 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:36,720 Speaker 1: like it when you're young and you know the strip 1524 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,120 Speaker 1: clubs and they got ice in the urinal? Isn't that 1525 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 1: the best thing I've got? Just pour fresh ice in 1526 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,480 Speaker 1: there for me. Okay, it's so relaxing, you know, just yeah, 1527 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,640 Speaker 1: just all right, Hey, hey, let's go on to. 1528 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 4: L f A. 1529 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 1: You know that that that organization. Watch that guy he 1530 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 1: got fooled up into a suitcase. Did you see that ship? Wow? 1531 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:54,600 Speaker 2: He melted. 1532 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,400 Speaker 1: Look at this right hand from the deep dark depths. 1533 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,640 Speaker 1: Bang oh st the nose and then the guy's like 1534 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 1: spleen broken half when he fell. 1535 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 2: Was this. 1536 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 1: Just oh my god? These people, oh wow, you take 1537 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 1: a chance fighting. There's people like us who he put 1538 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 1: him in a suitcase kind of reminded me of that 1539 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,360 Speaker 1: old showtime fight. Was that like twenty fourteen? Jay, do 1540 01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,480 Speaker 1: we have this? Remember that knockdown that is Ericslandi Laara 1541 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 1: against here it is Arislandi Lara Austin Trout put him 1542 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,280 Speaker 1: in the damn suitcase folding. He went down in sections 1543 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 1: like an accordion. You know what, I'm just pack him up. 1544 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,280 Speaker 1: Let's go go on through TSA. Come on, you got 1545 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:33,960 Speaker 1: pre check. Here we go. Wow. 1546 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 2: Remember seeing this. 1547 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 1: That was a nice knock to twenty fourteen at the 1548 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 1: Barclay Center. There, let's see what we got going on here, 1549 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 1: speaking of packing up into a suitcase. Here, you're you're 1550 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:47,920 Speaker 1: touching my woman here. Bruh ey brah, oh boy, oh 1551 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:52,919 Speaker 1: you're in trouble now. Oh wow, oh wow. First bag 1552 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,000 Speaker 1: is free on Southwest. 1553 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,919 Speaker 2: Here we go. Check this out. He's gonna actually pack 1554 01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 2: him into the suitcase, all headed, gues. You have a 1555 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 2: narrative that you're following. 1556 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:08,600 Speaker 1: That's it, tow Wow, Yeah, that is wow. Look at 1557 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 1: that little handsy right there, right yeah wow? All right, okay, 1558 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:14,960 Speaker 1: is that can't be real? This is. 1559 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,920 Speaker 2: Luke oh man. 1560 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,560 Speaker 1: All right. We're gonna go to a MMA organization called 1561 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 1: w w FC fourteen have you heard of this? No, 1562 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,800 Speaker 1: check out this submission from Carill Goro bets. They call 1563 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:32,640 Speaker 1: it a banana split. Have you ever heard of this? 1564 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:34,760 Speaker 2: I have heard of this. 1565 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,760 Speaker 1: Let me see it though, watch him tear this guy 1566 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:42,600 Speaker 1: a new asshole coming up in three two? Oh my god, 1567 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,400 Speaker 1: the thing. They don't go in that direction, chalk, What 1568 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:46,680 Speaker 1: do you think burst first? 1569 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,520 Speaker 3: I'm trying not to overthink it, but oh, have you 1570 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,800 Speaker 3: ever heard of this? I have heard of this, I've 1571 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,000 Speaker 3: never seen it executed. It's a wrestling thing, right like, 1572 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 3: but you never see it used in a in an 1573 01:05:58,040 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 3: mm A fight. 1574 01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:00,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't old feet. 1575 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 3: Oh that's yeah, that's not the way to go. 1576 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 1: That is not that is you know, we're gonna close. 1577 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:12,520 Speaker 1: My kids are real. Don't play it yet. My kids 1578 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,320 Speaker 1: are real into this. Dude perfect thing. You ever see 1579 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,560 Speaker 1: these guys, you don't know, dude perfect? These these trick 1580 01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 1: shot artists. What they do is they like stand on. 1581 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 2: A roof, they throw over their head. 1582 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,480 Speaker 1: It bounces twenty times and it goes in the hoop 1583 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 1: and you're like, You're like, this can't be real, or 1584 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,480 Speaker 1: if it is, they must must take them four weeks 1585 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:26,840 Speaker 1: to do it. 1586 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:27,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1587 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 1: Check out this guy trying to audition for for dude 1588 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,520 Speaker 1: perfect coming up, maybe more like dong perfect. Check it 1589 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:39,240 Speaker 1: out one chuck. Oh oh you Dick. 1590 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 2: That's amazing every time. 1591 01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:46,959 Speaker 1: Look at the head movement on that chuck. Oh oh yeah. 1592 01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,760 Speaker 1: Look at this guy's This is a modern day Jim Thorpe. 1593 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:54,240 Speaker 1: This guy man for all seasons. Look at this God 1594 01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,480 Speaker 1: call him Dick Van Patten. Right, this is great right 1595 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:00,120 Speaker 1: in the fay? 1596 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,520 Speaker 2: Yes, wow, how do I get suck? 1597 01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? What did that comment? Bullseye? 1598 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:06,280 Speaker 2: Indeed? 1599 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:11,760 Speaker 1: Right, we're like balls eye wow, Chuck, I mean you 1600 01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,920 Speaker 1: got the first date tips right here, right, Yeah, it's 1601 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:21,080 Speaker 1: amazing man, Okay, shout out to this guy. Oh, thank you, 1602 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:21,440 Speaker 1: thank you. 1603 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:21,800 Speaker 2: That's it. 1604 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,680 Speaker 1: That's it. That's it, all right, that's it. Have you 1605 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,640 Speaker 1: seen that shit? Wow? Right? Yes, hey, shout out to 1606 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:32,120 Speaker 1: this T shirt. Yeah, Olivia Obon Merciet boy, shout out 1607 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 1: to manufact I like that a lot like that. All right, 1608 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,120 Speaker 1: all right, it's odds and ends time. And we did 1609 01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 1: want to get serious for a second and really look 1610 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,080 Speaker 1: at the impact and the loss of Kobe Bryant, forty 1611 01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,080 Speaker 1: one years old. Really unfortunate helicopter crash that took the 1612 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,200 Speaker 1: life of him and one of his daughters as well. 1613 01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 1: We remember, of course the showtime Kobe Bryant's amused documentary 1614 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 1: The poster is over your shoulder, and it's tough in 1615 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,000 Speaker 1: this spot because we're all we're all heart wrenched, right. Yeah, 1616 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,400 Speaker 1: not all of us covered Kobe or knew him, you know, 1617 01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,400 Speaker 1: or had any kind of personal connection. But he's right 1618 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 1: in his you know, post career artistic prime. He was 1619 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,240 Speaker 1: doing a lot of stuff outside the when an oscar. 1620 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,840 Speaker 1: So he's had certainly a deep cultural impact for me. 1621 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:15,960 Speaker 1: Chuck my as my age. He was my high school 1622 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,000 Speaker 1: class class of ninety six. I remember him going to 1623 01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,240 Speaker 1: the McDonald's All American game. I was working at McDonald's 1624 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 1: at the time. I remember sort of all of his rise. 1625 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,200 Speaker 1: He certainly does have an impact from this standard for me. 1626 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,360 Speaker 1: That whole thing that Max Holloway was tweeting about and 1627 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 1: always talked about, that Mamba mentality, Right, Kobe Bryant, if 1628 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:38,439 Speaker 1: he did one thing, he absolutely maximized his full and 1629 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:43,560 Speaker 1: complete potential in a way that was maniacal but also inspiring. 1630 01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,200 Speaker 1: It was like he was not going to leave anything 1631 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,000 Speaker 1: on the table. He was going to completely and of 1632 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:50,880 Speaker 1: course he's got that reputation of a killer, and that 1633 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:52,840 Speaker 1: mamba nickname fits in that that I'm going to go 1634 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,640 Speaker 1: out there and do whatever it takes to step on 1635 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,479 Speaker 1: your throat proverbally and win the game and hit that 1636 01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,720 Speaker 1: buzzer beater on you. But the constant motivation to come 1637 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,840 Speaker 1: back from that ACL injury late in his career and 1638 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,720 Speaker 1: play three more seasons at such a high level. It 1639 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:10,040 Speaker 1: really leaves an inspiring legacy and Achilles. 1640 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,400 Speaker 3: That he'd been memory Torre's Achilles and he went and 1641 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,720 Speaker 3: shot the free throws and like he hobbles off on 1642 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,160 Speaker 3: his own, doesn't have any any help. 1643 01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,400 Speaker 2: The dude was another level competitor. 1644 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,840 Speaker 3: And like you said, he was so ingrained into the 1645 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 3: fabric of everything that we did growing up, you know 1646 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 3: what I mean. 1647 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 2: It's just it's that's what's weird. 1648 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 3: It's like this seismic pre you know, presence is just 1649 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:31,160 Speaker 3: gone just like this. And uh, it's crazy too because 1650 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:32,840 Speaker 3: I think people do wonder, like what is he going 1651 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,000 Speaker 3: to do in retirement because the game meant so much 1652 01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:36,880 Speaker 3: to him, and you hear all these guys, all the 1653 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,200 Speaker 3: players that have gone against them basically given little stories 1654 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,120 Speaker 3: about how he'd outwork them in the gym, uh, talk 1655 01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:43,840 Speaker 3: to them on the court, just all the stuff he 1656 01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,759 Speaker 3: would do, but the fact that he was succeeding outside 1657 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,200 Speaker 3: of it and he was kind of proving people wrong 1658 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:49,840 Speaker 3: given on that level with the Oscar and everything he 1659 01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:50,400 Speaker 3: had going on. 1660 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,639 Speaker 2: Man, it's it's horrible. 1661 01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,040 Speaker 3: And he has a six he has a he has 1662 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,400 Speaker 3: a six month old kid, you know, and as and 1663 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,960 Speaker 3: his daughter and it's just his family, everything that has 1664 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,599 Speaker 3: everything that they're going through. It's just it's a it's 1665 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,760 Speaker 3: a crazy thing, man. And I have to say, and 1666 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,599 Speaker 3: I think this is the deepest respect you can have 1667 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,439 Speaker 3: as a fan who doesn't know him, like just as 1668 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:10,559 Speaker 3: a person who pays the sention. 1669 01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:11,720 Speaker 2: To the sport. I hated him. 1670 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,360 Speaker 3: I hated him a Celtics, he scared you every time 1671 01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,080 Speaker 3: I went to I went to I lived in Los 1672 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,439 Speaker 3: Angeles when he filled the void when they needed a superstar. 1673 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,920 Speaker 3: Essentially back in the late nineties early two thousands, there 1674 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:23,280 Speaker 3: wasn't there were no football team. 1675 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 2: You know. 1676 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,080 Speaker 3: Uh, he filled a void and he was that star. 1677 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,240 Speaker 3: You know, he had that star, that star flavor that 1678 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,840 Speaker 3: LA needed, right like, so he was there. But I 1679 01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,600 Speaker 3: went to the Western Conference finals games because I'm a 1680 01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,519 Speaker 3: Denver Nuggets fan. The Nuggets made as far as they've 1681 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,680 Speaker 3: ever made it in their in their career, you know, 1682 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,760 Speaker 3: on their whole time. They made it to the Western 1683 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,360 Speaker 3: Commerce Finals two thousand and nine. I went to the 1684 01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,240 Speaker 3: first two games in Los Angeles and the Nuggets won 1685 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 3: one of them, but the other one that he basically stole, 1686 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:49,439 Speaker 3: and he stole the whole thing. 1687 01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 2: Like, but I. 1688 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,800 Speaker 3: Remember just hating him with every you know, like, oh 1689 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,439 Speaker 3: my god, I can't stand him because he's just that good. 1690 01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:57,639 Speaker 3: But it just when you hate a guy that much, 1691 01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,439 Speaker 3: it's because of how good they are, and you could 1692 01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,599 Speaker 3: always appreciate and he's not playing your team, you could 1693 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:02,960 Speaker 3: appreciate exactly who he was. 1694 01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,040 Speaker 1: It's weird, like, Okay, he's the son of an NBA player, 1695 01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:06,800 Speaker 1: so you're like, okay, well, yeah, he's going to be 1696 01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,439 Speaker 1: that good. But how many guys came out around his 1697 01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:11,840 Speaker 1: era and had a certain level ability but were never 1698 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:16,400 Speaker 1: able to fully completely maximize that the intensity he showed 1699 01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,800 Speaker 1: the want to be that guy from early on. You know, 1700 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,200 Speaker 1: why did the shack really fall apart? They're both probably 1701 01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:23,760 Speaker 1: at fault, but some of that is I know, how 1702 01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,200 Speaker 1: great I am I can be that guy. I always 1703 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,160 Speaker 1: respected you talk about his want for the last shot 1704 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 1: and not caring if he misses it. He's failed at 1705 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,200 Speaker 1: the very high level. People remember his rookie year against 1706 01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:34,680 Speaker 1: Utah the playoffs when they gave him the ball and 1707 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:36,680 Speaker 1: he had those two air balls and he cast him 1708 01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,759 Speaker 1: in that deciding game. And you know the breakdown against 1709 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,559 Speaker 1: Phoenix in game seven I think was five or oh 1710 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,960 Speaker 1: six in the playoffs where he just stopped trying. And 1711 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,800 Speaker 1: you know the loss to the Celtics in game six 1712 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,840 Speaker 1: when they got completely blown out in that eight series, 1713 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 1: and yet he was always able to come back and reinvent. 1714 01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,519 Speaker 1: And I was always happy for him that he had 1715 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,240 Speaker 1: that little era post shack where he could just let 1716 01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,439 Speaker 1: it all hang out, scored eighty one average like thirty 1717 01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:01,400 Speaker 1: five three seven points per game, but then turned back 1718 01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,519 Speaker 1: into a team player when they reloaded around him and 1719 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:05,640 Speaker 1: trusted his teammates, and the way he went out with 1720 01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:07,400 Speaker 1: sixty points in that final game was. 1721 01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:08,960 Speaker 2: Just it was just insane. 1722 01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:13,599 Speaker 1: It's just insane. So the young the young children, all 1723 01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 1: that hits you hard. But I think it's just hits 1724 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,559 Speaker 1: you hard because he's, Yeah, he's our age he's right here, 1725 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,720 Speaker 1: and it shows you the fragility of life. I mean, 1726 01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,080 Speaker 1: it would be the equivalent of like, you know, an 1727 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,479 Speaker 1: Anderson Silver or somebody you know passing away at this 1728 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,799 Speaker 1: point had such a great impact. I mean, he followed 1729 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,000 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan played the same position, had a very similar game, 1730 01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,640 Speaker 1: and yet almost equal, almost equal to his legacy in 1731 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,840 Speaker 1: terms of championships and in that, you know, I mean, 1732 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:35,639 Speaker 1: it's it's. 1733 01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,800 Speaker 2: The raging argument, right like Kobe Jordan, which one you know. 1734 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:42,240 Speaker 1: Wild but shout out and like I said, remind everybody 1735 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,120 Speaker 1: that that Kobe Bryant mused documentary, which was, as it 1736 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,599 Speaker 1: says on the poster, fiercely personal, a great look at 1737 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,280 Speaker 1: his mentality and gone too soon there, Chuck, way too soon, man, 1738 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,240 Speaker 1: All right, what do you what else we want to 1739 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 1: get here on the odds and ends. I wanted to 1740 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,680 Speaker 1: bring up I saw that Tyson Fury Deontay Wilder had 1741 01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,400 Speaker 1: his second LA press conference on Saturday. Of course, they 1742 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 1: have their rematch February twenty second in Vegas, Yes, of course, 1743 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,679 Speaker 1: a joint network pay per view. It's been interesting. Tyson 1744 01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:11,479 Speaker 1: Fury's not playing the role you would expect like he 1745 01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,639 Speaker 1: did the first time the agitator. He's not calling him 1746 01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,519 Speaker 1: the dosser. He's not trying to press all the buttons. 1747 01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,040 Speaker 1: And I've been talking on the show the last few 1748 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,320 Speaker 1: weeks how it's making me a little nervous of his 1749 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,720 Speaker 1: mentality coming in. Does he have the same fire when 1750 01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:26,280 Speaker 1: he wanted to prove everybody wrong last time? One storyline 1751 01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,040 Speaker 1: that keeps coming up. We know he switched trainers at 1752 01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,719 Speaker 1: the last minute. Bring in sugar Hill Steward, the disciple 1753 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:35,040 Speaker 1: of the Great Emmanuel Steward, because he says, the judges 1754 01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,759 Speaker 1: screwed me the first time. I'm going to knock Wilder 1755 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,479 Speaker 1: out in two rounds now Chuck. When he says it 1756 01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:44,400 Speaker 1: once or twice, like the card once or twice, You're like, Okay, Tyson, 1757 01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,080 Speaker 1: you say everything. You're six foot nine, you don't have 1758 01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,799 Speaker 1: huge power. You're the slickest guy this generation a scene. 1759 01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,000 Speaker 1: But he doubled and tripled down this Saturday on that 1760 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,320 Speaker 1: idea that he's going to learn how to be a 1761 01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,519 Speaker 1: better power puncher, sit down on his shots, and he's 1762 01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,759 Speaker 1: going to go for this. Is this his trickster gypsy 1763 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,000 Speaker 1: traveler show, this this three card monte or is there 1764 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,920 Speaker 1: any chance that he sees some vulnerability obviously while there 1765 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,120 Speaker 1: might be the biggest puncher of all time, but you 1766 01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,320 Speaker 1: can hurt him, you can you know, you can rattle him. 1767 01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,760 Speaker 3: Well, we know the delusions of stayed in business a 1768 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,120 Speaker 3: long time and you know, like in the fight game, 1769 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,559 Speaker 3: right like they I think people build themselves up to 1770 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,200 Speaker 3: think something. I don't know, because I think that he 1771 01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,400 Speaker 3: is that guy who might just throw out some smoke 1772 01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,760 Speaker 3: and let everybody run with it and then do something else. 1773 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,479 Speaker 2: I hope. So because that's a tall ask. 1774 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 3: What he says is so that's a I mean, if 1775 01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,160 Speaker 3: he does it, this will be like the This will 1776 01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,840 Speaker 3: be like Mystic Mac all over again. Right there, does this, 1777 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:40,439 Speaker 3: I would give him all the credit in the world. 1778 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,439 Speaker 3: But I feel like this is a little bit of 1779 01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,400 Speaker 3: smoke and mirrors and maybe just trying to play some 1780 01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,200 Speaker 3: head games. I feel like it's more in that ring 1781 01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:46,760 Speaker 3: now look. 1782 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,800 Speaker 1: At its core saying that is stupid. I'm gonna stand 1783 01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,360 Speaker 1: in there with the biggest puncher in maybe this division's 1784 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,440 Speaker 1: history and try to But he does have a legitimate 1785 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:59,640 Speaker 1: speed and technique advantage, and he was coming on in 1786 01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,080 Speaker 1: that twelve I forgot knocked down and rose like the 1787 01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,880 Speaker 1: undertaker Furio. I love what he's saying, but it can't 1788 01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:06,240 Speaker 1: be real. 1789 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,720 Speaker 3: I love the first fight. I love that he's saying it, right, 1790 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,960 Speaker 3: why not? Why not throw something out there very specific. 1791 01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,599 Speaker 3: It's like it's gonna draw eyeballs, you know that many 1792 01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:16,800 Speaker 3: more eyeballs. I I like that he's out there saying it. 1793 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,280 Speaker 3: This whole build up has been kind of fun. 1794 01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,639 Speaker 1: But it's been a little weird though, because what's weird 1795 01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,400 Speaker 1: is he's not trying to agitate Wilder, and Wilder's as 1796 01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,599 Speaker 1: dialed in as I have ever seen. There is no 1797 01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,200 Speaker 1: doubt in his eyes. He just had a destructive year, 1798 01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,240 Speaker 1: two huge knockouts. He is ready as ever to deliver 1799 01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,840 Speaker 1: that boom Man. This is gonna be high theater. It's 1800 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,320 Speaker 1: like watching a guy pitch pitch a perfect game in 1801 01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,240 Speaker 1: a hailstorm, right, you know, It's like wow. Other obtentives 1802 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 1: this week is Canelo, biggest star in the sport. Rumored 1803 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,240 Speaker 1: to come back on his Sinkle to MYO date, but 1804 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,920 Speaker 1: not in Las Vegas and not against what we would 1805 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:50,240 Speaker 1: call it prefer He wants to go to Japan and 1806 01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:56,439 Speaker 1: fight little known titleist Riota Marata. Here's the problem. The 1807 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,400 Speaker 1: Zone has a card this week super Bowl weekend, this weekend. 1808 01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,800 Speaker 1: I think it's Thursday night. Jake Paul on it. Nobody cares. 1809 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,120 Speaker 1: Good ass card, good ass fight with Tevin Farmer and 1810 01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:07,679 Speaker 1: Jojo Diaz. But w BO Middleway champion Demetrius Andrade Andreid 1811 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,760 Speaker 1: is in that main event, and he's a guy who 1812 01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:11,599 Speaker 1: we're just waiting for him to finally see how Grady 1813 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,519 Speaker 1: can be against a big name. He wants Canelo. He 1814 01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,679 Speaker 1: followed Canelo to the Zone. He's banging the things for Canelo. 1815 01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:21,559 Speaker 1: Yet Canelos probably gonna fight Marada. This guy Andreid's fighting 1816 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,040 Speaker 1: this weekend against a guy none of us has heard 1817 01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:23,400 Speaker 1: of before. 1818 01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,880 Speaker 3: Luke Peter, come on, irishman, I'm just kidding that. I 1819 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:27,960 Speaker 3: looked that up before we came out. 1820 01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:29,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you up. 1821 01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,840 Speaker 3: You know, he's like a twenty five to one hundred. 1822 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,640 Speaker 3: I looked at the line I had to see. So 1823 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:37,840 Speaker 3: you were saying a no name, but I'm like, it's a. 1824 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,439 Speaker 1: There's an idea. Well maybe if if Canelo does what 1825 01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,280 Speaker 1: he wants for the first fight of twenty twenty, meaning 1826 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,240 Speaker 1: he got a big money to go to Japan in 1827 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,599 Speaker 1: a fight that he's obviously gonna win and then maybe 1828 01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,439 Speaker 1: in the second half of'll do do what the zone wants, 1829 01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,920 Speaker 1: which is a third fight with Glofkin. But here's the deal. 1830 01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:54,840 Speaker 1: You're paying this guy three hundred and sixty five million. 1831 01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,160 Speaker 1: He's kind of the face of your franchise, separate from 1832 01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:00,240 Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua the backbone. Can you get him. I'm on 1833 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,759 Speaker 1: board for the money you're paying him and say, hey, dude, 1834 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:06,040 Speaker 1: Andreid has another developmental Wait, let's unify. Let's do it, okay, 1835 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,760 Speaker 1: Like Canelo has five difficult guys like this before, like 1836 01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,360 Speaker 1: the Trouts, Lalaras, and he's he's great, he might be 1837 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,840 Speaker 1: the best fighter in the sport. I'm not in on 1838 01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,439 Speaker 1: this Japan idea. Okay, Canelo be the guy you took 1839 01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,160 Speaker 1: the Sinkle Tomio date from Floyd, Be that guy. Give 1840 01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,160 Speaker 1: us an event, Go to sixty eight and fight Billy 1841 01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,679 Speaker 1: Joe Saunders for the title. Do do something here. Don't 1842 01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,800 Speaker 1: go to Japan where we're like, you just. 1843 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:28,519 Speaker 3: Got your standing when we're talking about cogn like, it 1844 01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,519 Speaker 3: extends to sports and this is boxing's problem, right. Life 1845 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,640 Speaker 3: is short. Do the things that makes sense. I go, like, 1846 01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,880 Speaker 3: do the things that you're supposed to be doing. Don't 1847 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:37,400 Speaker 3: waste time on these things. You know, I know that 1848 01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,280 Speaker 3: he's getting paid Regardle, but I'm like, you want to 1849 01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:42,080 Speaker 3: I want to see the fights that are exciting. 1850 01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:43,360 Speaker 2: And it's tough to. 1851 01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:45,320 Speaker 1: Give that argument in boxing at Canelo because he has 1852 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,679 Speaker 1: there to be young. Last year the Danny Jacobs Sergei 1853 01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,880 Speaker 1: Colval was great. But here's the thing, Gluffin's getting pretty old. 1854 01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:51,080 Speaker 2: True. 1855 01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,679 Speaker 1: If you fight him this at one sixty eight in May, 1856 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,519 Speaker 1: it'll do huge business. Canelo will probably win all of us. 1857 01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,880 Speaker 1: People who thought Glufkin got screwed will be satisfied that 1858 01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,840 Speaker 1: there's a third fight. Just you know, went big bed alright, bro, 1859 01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:07,519 Speaker 1: just getting this right? Come on, offer some boogar shooting? No, no, no, no, 1860 01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,040 Speaker 1: we'll cut that part of it, all right, keep it 1861 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:14,599 Speaker 1: also this weekend, Chuck, super Bowl fifty five and fifty 1862 01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:18,600 Speaker 1: something like that. Niners, chiefs, are you? Are you fired up? 1863 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:19,840 Speaker 1: Am I going to tell? Are you? 1864 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,360 Speaker 3: I'm actually a little bit because there's no patriots. There's 1865 01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,400 Speaker 3: no patriots in this one. Like it's it's kind of 1866 01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,679 Speaker 3: fun to have like fresh blood in there. And Kansas 1867 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,960 Speaker 3: City who hasn't been there since I don't know not. 1868 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,000 Speaker 2: In my lifetime. I don't remember I'm ever going. 1869 01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,120 Speaker 3: Uh, and then in the forty nine ers out of nowhere, 1870 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:35,519 Speaker 3: I'm making it. So that's a good matchup, man. 1871 01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,559 Speaker 1: I like Cory Lyne there. Mahomes can kind of become 1872 01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,200 Speaker 1: everything with a win here, right, Yeah, Bob Craft probably 1873 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,040 Speaker 1: upset that he can't go to South Florida. There's there's 1874 01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:44,320 Speaker 1: a lot of ways to relax down there. 1875 01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:48,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1876 01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:50,160 Speaker 1: Sorry, did you do that? 1877 01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:51,080 Speaker 2: You got though? 1878 01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,879 Speaker 1: That was that was a def Leppard Sorry, I don't. 1879 01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,920 Speaker 2: Know, you know, you know I used to eighties. That 1880 01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:56,400 Speaker 2: is a second. 1881 01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,000 Speaker 1: We don't have an eighties Campbell's reference a new picture 1882 01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:00,960 Speaker 1: like the Professional Okay, love that. 1883 01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:03,559 Speaker 2: You know. 1884 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:05,920 Speaker 1: I just uh. I've been called I tell Luke this 1885 01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,439 Speaker 1: all the time. I've covered pro wrestling for four years. 1886 01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:12,479 Speaker 1: It's a time suck. The good news is now moving forward. 1887 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm focusing on just boxing it and may Luke's gonna be happy. 1888 01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm just a wrestling fan now, but when you cover 1889 01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:22,360 Speaker 1: pro wrestling day Macon, it would be time suck. So 1890 01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,920 Speaker 1: I've kind of fallen out to a certain degree on movies, 1891 01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,519 Speaker 1: time with my wife, mainstream sports. So I'm gonna try 1892 01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,360 Speaker 1: to get all back into all of that. Okay, try 1893 01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:32,840 Speaker 1: to get my life back. I went to the movies, 1894 01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,960 Speaker 1: I said last night, you know, starting to starting to 1895 01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:37,800 Speaker 1: come back, all right, starting to come back a little bit. 1896 01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,679 Speaker 1: But yeah, let's let's see the Chiefs do this. Okay, 1897 01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,800 Speaker 1: let's see it the Chiefs. I don't have much else 1898 01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:44,880 Speaker 1: to add to that. Yeah, okay, thank you. This is 1899 01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,800 Speaker 1: not a deep football breakdown podcast. 1900 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,080 Speaker 2: Your boy Drew McIntyre though, huh yeah. 1901 01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,439 Speaker 1: Just to close on the real rumble, A little bit 1902 01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,719 Speaker 1: of a brock party going on. There are people saying, 1903 01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,599 Speaker 1: and I'm one of them, that's one of the best 1904 01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:58,559 Speaker 1: royal rumbles. I was seeing last night and here. 1905 01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,599 Speaker 2: It was great. It was Matt Riddle showing up. 1906 01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,160 Speaker 1: There's a report I don't know if you get it 1907 01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:04,600 Speaker 1: on the dirt sheets. I try to stay away a 1908 01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,639 Speaker 1: little bit that Riddle and Lessner had a little little 1909 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,720 Speaker 1: separate they need to be separated, back saying, I don't 1910 01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,640 Speaker 1: know if any of that's true. But Riddle shows up, 1911 01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,240 Speaker 1: Edge makes his return from a nine year retirement due 1912 01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:18,080 Speaker 1: to act and brock Lesner starts it out at number 1913 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,599 Speaker 1: one the rec I mean, look, obviously it's not it's 1914 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,160 Speaker 1: not real. So it's all. But the way they scripted that, 1915 01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,040 Speaker 1: the way they booked that match was entertaining as hell. 1916 01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:28,800 Speaker 1: I know Luke already tuned out at this point, but 1917 01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:33,120 Speaker 1: entertaining his balls and drew the guy everybody wanted, not Roman, 1918 01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,680 Speaker 1: rings anyone but you Romana for sure. 1919 01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:36,960 Speaker 3: I was like, there's no way they're gonna have Drew 1920 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:38,720 Speaker 3: Magatyre when that, you know, win this thing. 1921 01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:40,559 Speaker 1: But I thought they were going to do. I thought 1922 01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:42,800 Speaker 1: Roman was going to win. The crowd would boo like hell, 1923 01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,120 Speaker 1: and then Bray Whitett, the fiend would come out. They 1924 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,400 Speaker 1: dimmed the lights and he put him in the mandible clause. 1925 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,160 Speaker 1: Do you think we could see a mandible cloths submission 1926 01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:57,519 Speaker 1: in m m an get a one two three there, Chuck, 1927 01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,160 Speaker 1: all right, you know that's our show for this week, 1928 01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:05,960 Speaker 1: Morning Combat. Please do us that solid. There's our social handles, 1929 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,920 Speaker 1: still channels for the show. Subscribe on YouTube. We need 1930 01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,200 Speaker 1: to get these numbers up. We've already promised you. Okay, 1931 01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,519 Speaker 1: if we can get to fifty thousand, Loop will take 1932 01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,400 Speaker 1: his shirt off on set, and if we can get 1933 01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,600 Speaker 1: to seventy five, Luke and Chuck will go tip to 1934 01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:22,760 Speaker 1: tip baby Wow Yeah, that's great, guarantee, right, Yes, we 1935 01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,080 Speaker 1: want to get those numbers up. Chuck, you listen to 1936 01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:26,280 Speaker 1: any good nineties albums right now? 1937 01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:28,720 Speaker 2: No, I'm not, actually, are you? 1938 01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm backing on August and Everything After. It's a 1939 01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:34,160 Speaker 1: little depressing, but it's it's a top five nineties album. 1940 01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:35,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't. 1941 01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:35,960 Speaker 1: You don't back me on that. 1942 01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,240 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to see your count getting I want 1943 01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:39,839 Speaker 3: to see you break your personal record. 1944 01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:41,240 Speaker 2: Here we know it in nineteen right now, you. 1945 01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,400 Speaker 1: Would not put August and Everything After. It's a top 1946 01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:44,160 Speaker 1: five nineties album. 1947 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:46,680 Speaker 2: I'd have to think about it along. 1948 01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:51,360 Speaker 1: With ten by Pearl Jam okay, okay, Computer by Radiohead, 1949 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:57,640 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna Freedom by Sublime. You still with me? 1950 01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,519 Speaker 2: Here, I'm with you. I'm listening to. 1951 01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:05,320 Speaker 1: You Get the hell out of Here, Metallica, Black Album 1952 01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:10,920 Speaker 1: in My Ear, the Big Nirvana album never Mind, and 1953 01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:14,639 Speaker 1: to Be There. They're all in the discussion. Okay, they're 1954 01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:15,639 Speaker 1: all in the damn discussion. 1955 01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,400 Speaker 2: Blind mellon something like that. 1956 01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,519 Speaker 1: Or the No Rain album. What's it's self titled? 1957 01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:20,680 Speaker 2: There? 1958 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:26,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, Smashing Okay, get Gets Gets, Get Smashing Jay, 1959 01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,400 Speaker 1: Get Smashing Pumpkins out of my ear, Thank you very much. 1960 01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:30,559 Speaker 1: That's our show for this week. Luke Thomas will be 1961 01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:33,760 Speaker 1: back next week after his Super Bowl radio escapade. This 1962 01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:37,240 Speaker 1: is Chuck Mindenhall. Read his work on the Athletic dot com. 1963 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,320 Speaker 1: For the price of feeding a small child in a 1964 01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:40,920 Speaker 1: third world country, you can read his way It's your 1965 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:42,640 Speaker 1: choice how you spend your money. You can read his 1966 01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:44,719 Speaker 1: Listen to the Man in the Myth podcast. It's free, 1967 01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:50,200 Speaker 1: it's free, yes, yes, okay, Chuck, do you have a 1968 01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,719 Speaker 1: message for your people? A presidential endorsement? 1969 01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:57,280 Speaker 3: Anything controversy pay attention to uh the Man in the. 1970 01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:04,120 Speaker 1: Myth though, Yeah, hands up? Oh yeah, That'sh's loyal. This 1971 01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:59,960 Speaker 1: is Morning Combat. You we all right? Mm hmm