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Speaker 1: These One Bill's Live presented by Called lighta Health Welcome

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Speaker 1: into One Bill's Lives. Steve Tasker here along with Chris Trapasso.

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Speaker 1: Brownie is out for the day. Uh we are. You're

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Speaker 1: going to have to put up with me as the

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Speaker 1: host today. I'll be working the phones, taking your phone calls.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot of stuff to talk about. Chris

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Speaker 1: have been writing a lot of stuff for CBS dot

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Speaker 1: com and CBS Sports Network. We're going to go through

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Speaker 1: some of that, some interesting stuff about what we can

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Speaker 1: expect from uh, the receivers that have been brought on

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Speaker 1: historically to the Buffalo Bills, where they've been like like

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Speaker 1: John Brown, Cole Beasley, Steph Diggs and they came to

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Speaker 1: the Bills from other teams and what happened to their

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Speaker 1: careers after that, and and we'll get a chance to

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Speaker 1: talk about it. But Chris, thanks for coming on. It's

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Speaker 1: good to see him, man.

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Speaker 2: It's great to be back.

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Speaker 3: We're in golf season, but we're in OTAs we're actually

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Speaker 3: seeing some football happening. I know it's you know, there's

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Speaker 3: there's not hitting, it's not pads. It's quite yet, but

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Speaker 3: it's nice to see the rookie class here, some of

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Speaker 3: the veterans back before they really get that month off,

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Speaker 3: before we really get going at Saint John Fisher.

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Speaker 1: Right, you know, some AFC notes and stuff. We we

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Speaker 1: had access to Sean McDermott yesterday in the in the

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Speaker 1: you know, media portion of it. A couple of guys out,

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Speaker 1: you know, Spencer Spencer Brown off season shoulder surgery. Mike

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Speaker 1: Edwards excuse me, also dealing with a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a shoulder. Had some nice things to say about h

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Speaker 1: Chase Claypool yesterday had some you know, stuff about really

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Speaker 1: interesting stuff about when Josh came on and spoke. He

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Speaker 1: said that, you know, it's a chance for him to

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Speaker 1: expand his role as a leader on the team. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt this is Josh's team now. I mean,

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Speaker 1: particularly this year.

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Speaker 2: It's all the new pieces.

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Speaker 1: Uh and I think we're gonna get a chance to

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Speaker 1: see that. Heard from Marquez Valdez Scantling yesterday, seemed articulate,

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Speaker 1: happy to be here. Chase Claypool sounded articulate, happy to

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Speaker 3: He sounded like someone too that is really I mean,

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Speaker 3: we'll see, but learned from his mistakes and understands I

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Speaker 3: have all the talent to do it, it's just the

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Speaker 3: mental side of it, and and becoming more of a

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Speaker 3: team player as opposed to a me first player like

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Speaker 3: he maybe was when he was younger, earlier in his career.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think too a lot of guys. I

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Speaker 1: think you're affected by your surroundings, particularly a young kid

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Speaker 1: coming out of college. Claypool went to was a Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame Pittsburgh. Claypool went to No, No, No, No college, Notre Dame,

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Uh. I've got a family, extended family who

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Speaker 1: went to Notre Dame, and of course we all have

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Speaker 1: people who are Notre Dame lovers. You know, it's a

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Speaker 1: special place. Even its critics will say it's different. And

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Speaker 1: the culture that is in Notre Dame or at Notre

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Speaker 1: it was around the Pittsburgh Steelers, and certainly much different

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Speaker 1: places where Claypool has landed in his career. I wonder

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Speaker 1: if the adjustment period was more difficult for him than

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Speaker 1: he anticipated. Certainly he doesn't seem like a guy who's

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Speaker 1: off his rocker. When he talked to him in the media,

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Speaker 1: what I mean. I wonder what the story is behind

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Speaker 3: I wonder if it's kind of the classic case of

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Speaker 3: irish that I think to what you said, like, maybe

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Speaker 3: it was, hey, this game's pretty easy, I can do this.

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Speaker 3: And his rookie year in Pittsburgh at the tail end

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Speaker 3: and it was I know, there's that famous viral video

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Speaker 3: I think there's maybe more to that than a lot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll say this as well, once again, very

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Speaker 1: hard to go in to land in there, get traded

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Speaker 1: there and be enthused about staying there and making a

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Speaker 3: I think winning, you don't feel a part of it,

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Speaker 3: just that and he comes there.

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Speaker 2: There's a few of his former Notre Dame teammates.

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Speaker 3: Cole Comet was there in Chicago, so that was maybe

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Speaker 3: the thought that being closer to where he went to school,

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Speaker 3: having some teammates would help him. But I think to

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Speaker 3: your point, it's as simple as they weren't winning, and

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Speaker 3: there was criticism for the offense that the passing game

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Speaker 3: under justin Fields was like as pedestrian as we've ever

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Speaker 3: in a new surrounding area that if you're not ready mentally,

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Speaker 3: don't have that mental fortitude that you haven't had to

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Speaker 3: have early in your career, I think it's easy to

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Speaker 3: going to block on this play, maybe not run the

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Speaker 3: best route here in Buffalo. I think it's would very

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Speaker 3: well could be the classic case of winning cures everything

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Speaker 3: for Chase Claypool that even if he's not catching six

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Speaker 3: passes for one hundred yards and two touchdowns, if he's contributing.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about special team.

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Speaker 3: Sean McDermott mentioned that he's a big body and with

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Speaker 3: these new kickoff rules, that's more important than it had

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Speaker 3: of more winning culture like he was early in his

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Speaker 1: I've I heard the guys this morning talking about Claypool

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Speaker 1: and saying, you know, because they heard the comments about

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Speaker 1: they said, well, you know, who's he competing against? Is

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Speaker 1: I mean, who's he really not? Just right now? My team,

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Speaker 1: Chase Claypool's competing against Chase Claypool. He's listen the guys

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Speaker 1: like you said, he's six ' four two thirty plus,

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Speaker 1: He jumps out of the gym. I mean, he's got

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Speaker 1: incredible athleticism. He could play wide receiver, he could play slot,

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Speaker 1: he could play x Z, he could play tight end. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he could play safety or corner if he had, you know,

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Speaker 1: if he just started out on a different path.

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Speaker 1: The guy can do anything physically what he's in, what

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Speaker 1: of his career he's here in Buffalo, he's got to

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Speaker 1: do enough of those things I just mentioned, special teams, slot,

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Speaker 1: got to do all of that, enough of that for

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Speaker 1: but he's in competition with himself, it's.

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Speaker 2: More so than someone else on the team.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a really good point, absolutely, the fact

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Speaker 3: that he's only twenty five years old, but he's now

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Speaker 3: on his third team. He doesn't finish out that rookie

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Speaker 3: contract in Pittsburgh, like I mentioned, traded to Chicago. It's

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Speaker 3: with an elite quarterback in Josh Allen. I don't want

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Speaker 3: be hard that if Chase Claypool doesn't develop from the

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Speaker 3: mental side of things, it doesn't show that he's a

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Speaker 3: convinced by another team like, hey, let's take a shot

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Speaker 3: in a completely we reworked wide receiver room.

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Speaker 2: It feels like this is a good, low risk.

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Speaker 3: Potentially high upside opportunity for him to play with Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen in a wide receiver group that certainly has a

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Speaker 3: to be replaced from last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you think about it. Our Twitter poll for today

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Speaker 1: us a or you can tweet at us. It's how

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Speaker 1: do you see the Bills utilizing their receivers in twenty

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Speaker 1: got Chase Claypool, Curtis Samuel, three of the more prominent

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Speaker 1: all had career years. That's the next year, the first

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Speaker 1: year they were with Josh Allen. Absolutely, Josh Allen made

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Speaker 1: a difference in their career now. And Steph Diggs came

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Speaker 1: from Kirk Cousins who threw throws for four thousand yards

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Speaker 1: every year, but he had a better year with Josh

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Speaker 1: than he did with Kirk Cousins. Yes, Cole Beasley.

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Speaker 3: Comes from Dallas with with Dak Prescott, they were all

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Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs, you could kind of tell in Minnesota that

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Speaker 3: he was a player that had his arrow pointing upward.

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Speaker 3: But it was with Josh Allen that he leads the

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Speaker 3: league in catches, in receiving yards, He's a first team

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Speaker 2: He hadn't reached those new heights.

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Speaker 3: So I think for as much as Yes, the impact

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Speaker 3: of Stefan Diggs and earlier in Josh Allen's career Cole Beasley,

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Speaker 3: John Brown, they definitely impacted the development of Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: helped aid that along. But I do think it's important

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Speaker 3: too now that Josh Allen is here, he's the one

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Speaker 3: stable force you mentioned, He's the true leader. It's his

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Speaker 3: team now with so many new pieces, we have to

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Speaker 3: really acknowledge that Josh Allen had a huge impact on

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Speaker 3: those players who were all middle of the road to

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Speaker 3: reached their absolute maximum once they were in Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: So it's important to kind of.

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Speaker 3: Run these new wide receivers through the riggers of how

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Speaker 1: I think Josh is the is the atalyst for making

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Speaker 2: Of course, like is the.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Chris Trapasso, You're gonna put up with. Usually

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, just kind of something that when stick stepp

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Speaker 5: But now this is Josh's team solely, and he's going

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Speaker 5: just you know, what your take. You think that Allen's numbers,

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Speaker 5: probably the sole reason why he didn't win the MVP

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Speaker 1: Thanks, Colin, I appreciate it. Yeah, I would agree with that.

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Speaker 1: I've never been bothered. I certainly I don't want to

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Speaker 1: And because of that, Josh is different than every other quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 3: I will go one step further. I will, and you

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Speaker 3: I think it should be used more than just straight interceptions.

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Speaker 3: So it's where Let's say Josh Allen throws the ball

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Speaker 3: That narrative was set Monday Night football against the Jets.

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Speaker 3: It was a lot of tip passes. A lot of

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Speaker 1: just say it again, and you hear it from us

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Speaker 1: all the time. If the Bills don't help their opponent,

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Speaker 1: the opponent doesn't win. That's how good they are. And

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Speaker 1: Josh is a big reason why we're going to take

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Speaker 1: another phone call here, Judy from Buffalo. Judy, you're on

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Speaker 1: the air.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, Okay.

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Speaker 6: I can't see any team paying very million dollars for

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Speaker 6: any receiver. I know Justin Jefferson is good, but he's

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Speaker 6: not going to make any team a real winner. The

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Speaker 6: point being, every year teams are going to have to

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Speaker 6: draft quality receivers, keep them for develop them for two

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Speaker 6: three years.

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Speaker 7: And then get rid of them.

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Speaker 6: I think the perfect example is the Green Bay Packers

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Speaker 6: what they did for Jordan Love. And you know, I

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Speaker 6: just hope that maybe the Bills have picked up a

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Speaker 6: couple of receivers who could make a difference. But this

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Speaker 6: idea that you have to have a twenty or thirty

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Speaker 6: million dollar receiver is simply out of the picture.

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Speaker 4: It can't.

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Speaker 6: They cannot sustain that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, Judy.

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Speaker 2: And that's good point.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point, no question. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: we all know Tyreek Hill is the thirty million dollar

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Speaker 1: guy who got drafted or traded from the Chiefs to

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins. He's getting thirty million bucks a year and

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Speaker 1: their team, and let's face it their team through for

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Speaker 1: more yards, or their quarterback through for more yards than

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Speaker 1: any other quarterback in the league, and Tua Tyreek's a

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Speaker 1: big part of that. Jalen Waddle is also a big

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Speaker 1: part of that. They're gonna have to pay him coming

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Speaker 1: up next. It'll be interesting how they handle that. Tua

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a contract yet, they're waiting on that to happen.

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Speaker 1: So they've got a lot of guys standing in line

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Speaker 1: in Miami. And quite frankly, I think their receivers more

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Speaker 1: valuable than their quarterback. I don't think their quarterbacks physically

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Speaker 1: as good as Tyreek and Jalen Waddle. I'd pay Tyreek

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Speaker 1: before i'd pay Tua because we had to defend him

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Speaker 1: so much. I mean, that's the guy that scares you. Tua,

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Speaker 1: doesn't that guy does, I think. So there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of that in there, Judy, And that's a good point.

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Speaker 1: You have to pick your spots of who to pay.

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Speaker 1: If you've got a guy who's a unicorn, pay him.

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Speaker 1: I'm okay. The Bills did it with Josh Baltimore, did

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Speaker 1: it with Lamar. Kansas City certainly did it with Pat.

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Speaker 1: A ton of guys around the league at different positions.

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Speaker 1: You know, Aaron Donald, Yeah, pay that guy. So do

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Speaker 1: what it takes to keep a unicorn type of player

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Speaker 1: who is a difference maker and does it for your team.

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Speaker 1: But then, like you said, there are guys out there

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Speaker 1: like the cole Beasleys and John Brown's, the Steph Diggs

484
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Speaker 1: who want a new start, who go to another team's

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Speaker 1: Connor McGovern who comes over this team. Guys you can

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Speaker 1: find on the in free agency that really make a

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Speaker 1: difference and who aren't making thirty million bucks a year,

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Speaker 1: And you got to find a way to piece that together,

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Speaker 1: no question about it. I'm but I'm with you up

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Speaker 1: to a point where thirty million bucks for a wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: that's hard. But there may be one and he's already

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Speaker 1: getting it. But there's nobody who I've seen on this

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Speaker 1: roster of the Bills or maybe anyplace else in the

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Speaker 1: league who's worth that.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: I think we're kind of at an inflection point with

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Speaker 3: wide receiver because individually, I think someone like an in

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Speaker 3: prime Steff Day, Justin Jefferson who's just entering his prime

499
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Speaker 3: and has been historically great to start his career, they

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Speaker 3: matter a lot. But I do think you have to

501
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Speaker 3: look at Oh, we're not just rolling out one in

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Speaker 3: two wide receiver sets.

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Speaker 2: There's three of them.

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Speaker 3: And last year in Minnesota, even after the Kirk Cousins injury,

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Speaker 3: they started Nick Mullins, they started Josh Dobbs off the street.

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Speaker 3: They were still scoring twenty thirty points a game. Nick

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Speaker 3: Mullins had a four hundred yard game with Jordan Addison

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Speaker 3: and TJ. Hockinson. So it's not just how valuable is

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Speaker 3: this position, Oh, it's very valuable, let's pay at thirty

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Speaker 3: million dollars. It's we have to look at the surplus

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Speaker 3: of talent, like Judy's mentioning, that is coming into the

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Speaker 3: league every year. And another reason why I think it's

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Speaker 3: an inflection point is we've seen some pretty smart, pretty

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Speaker 3: successful organizations. The Green Bay Packers traded away DeVonta Adams,

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Speaker 3: and at the time it was, oh my god, what

516
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Speaker 3: are they doing. They draft six receivers in three consecutive drafts,

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Speaker 3: and they were a few plays away from the NFC

518
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Speaker 3: title game last year, the Chiefs back to back Super Bowls.

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Speaker 3: The Bills have now done at trading Stefon Diggs, So

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Speaker 3: I think other teams are probably taking the cues from

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Speaker 3: these perennial contenders, Bill's chiefs packers and saying, oh, actually

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Speaker 3: they decided not to pay this receiver twenty eight to

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Speaker 3: thirty thirty two million dollars, and maybe it's better to

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Speaker 3: have your roster where you can really spread it around

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Speaker 3: a lot better.

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Speaker 1: YEA. One of the things that has made a difference

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Speaker 1: in the Sean McDermott era is their abilities to develop

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Speaker 1: young players, guys like Taron Johnson, Matt Milano, Khalil Shakir,

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Speaker 1: Christian Benford. You go down the list and these players

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Speaker 1: were not the same now as they were when they

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Speaker 1: came in. It's an up to a coaching staff to

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Speaker 1: getting infused into your culture and they're so cheap and

533
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Speaker 1: right and to elevate their plague to get them on

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Speaker 1: the field that way, and by doing so, it's quality

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Speaker 1: cheap labor. And then when you do come across a

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Speaker 1: guy like a Matt Milano or a Taron Johnson, you

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Speaker 1: do pay those guys. Sure, you do pay those guys.

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Speaker 1: So Chris Trapass, So Steve Tasker, we're gonna come back,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break, come back and talk more

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Speaker 1: about it. What do you want to see the Bills

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Speaker 1: do with their wide receiver room this year for this

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Speaker 1: season coming up too, We're gonna talk about some numbers,

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Speaker 1: are gonna show you a graphic about the way the

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Speaker 1: receivers who have come from other teams, like Steph Diggs,

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Speaker 1: like John Brown, like Cole Beasley in the past, what

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Speaker 1: happened to them when they got to Buffalo, and what

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Speaker 1: we can expect from Curtis, Samuel mccollins and maybe mvs

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. Christah Passo, this is One Bill's Live and

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Speaker 1: you're listening to Buffalo Bills Radio. Christoph Passo, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: back on One Bill's Live. We're talking about the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver room today and got a lot of calls about

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Speaker 1: how they're going to use those guys. What might happen

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Speaker 1: with Chase Claypool, Curtis sam O, maccollins, guys who have

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Speaker 1: come from other teams onto the Bills. So christ Passo,

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Speaker 1: my co host today, went back and looked at what

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Speaker 1: happened when like Cole Beasley came in, and when John

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Speaker 1: Brown came in, and when Steph Diggs came in from

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Speaker 1: other teams and crunched some numbers and some pretty interesting

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Speaker 1: stuff because we said it last segment, and we'll show

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Speaker 1: you the graphic here. These these these guys went off.

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Speaker 1: The went off the next year, the first one with

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Samuel's pre Buffalo career highs ninety seven targets,

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Speaker 1: seventy seven catches, eight hundred and fifty one yards, three tds,

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Speaker 1: and the multiples based on the average kind of change

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Speaker 1: in Beasley, Brown and Diggs when they came and started

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Speaker 1: catching passes from Josh Allen, it was it upped all

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Speaker 1: of those by, you know, by a large percentage. So

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Speaker 1: you project that onto like a guy like Curtis Samuel

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Speaker 1: and you get one hundred and eight targets, you get

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Speaker 1: eighty eight catches over a thousand yards receiving in a

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Speaker 1: two and a half touchdowns or two point five more touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's pretty good jump.

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Speaker 3: And to have that as maybe not your number one option,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think a lot of us are expecting

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Speaker 3: that's probably going to be Dalton Kincaid with Shakiir.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have Shakir, you have Kean Coleman.

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Speaker 3: That would maybe lighten the load in terms of the

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Speaker 3: expectations for Keon Coleman to to say, look, you don't

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Speaker 3: need to be a thirteen hundred and eight eight touchdown

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Speaker 3: wide receiver in year one. If Curtis Samuel is going

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Speaker 3: to give you around the same amount of yards as

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Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs gave you last season, he was right around

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Speaker 3: eleven hundred, had over one hundred catches, but eighty five

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Speaker 3: catches for around one thousand yards. For Curtis Samuel, I

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Speaker 3: think the Bills or coaching staff, Josh Allen, even Samuel

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Speaker 3: himself would certainly sign up for that. And I just

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Speaker 3: thought it was important and we talked about it in

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Speaker 3: the first segment. How much digs helped Josh Allen and

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Speaker 3: cold was this veteran coming in for Josh Allen. Well,

592
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Speaker 3: how much did they get better having Josh Allen throwing

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Speaker 3: them the football and across the board those three Digs,

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Speaker 3: Beasley and Brown, The receptions went up, the receiving yards

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Speaker 3: went up, the touchdowns came down a little, and I

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Speaker 3: think a lot of that is because Josh Allen scores

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Speaker 3: so many of those touchdowns with his legs. But to

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Speaker 3: see that jump from those players, and that's really going

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Speaker 3: through your slot receiver, your X receiver, your wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Curtis Samuel is most likely going to play kind of

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Speaker 3: in all of those positions. He's going to be moved around.

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Speaker 3: And I think we're all expecting this Joe Brady offense,

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Speaker 3: this real iteration of Joe Brady's offense to a t

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Speaker 3: is going to be a lot of players moving in

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Speaker 3: different roles that we could see this type of jump

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Speaker 3: from Curtis Samuel and to harken back very quickly to

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Speaker 3: the point from the last segment thirty million dollar receiver, Oh,

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Speaker 3: you get one for cheaper at twenty five million. If

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Speaker 3: Curtis Samuel gives the Bills around eighty catches in around

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Speaker 3: one thousand yards and he's only making eight million per year,

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Speaker 3: that's like the bargain at the receiver spot in the

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Speaker 3: entire NFL. So that's another one.

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Speaker 1: It kind of.

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Speaker 3: Feels similar to, oh, okay, the Bill Sein Coleby is

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Speaker 3: a good signing, nothing really spectacular about that one year in,

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Speaker 3: and then four years in it was like this was

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Speaker 3: the best signing of that offseason. I think we're kind

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Speaker 3: of in the point where this Curtis Samuel deal only

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Speaker 3: eight million per year for a twenty seven year old

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Speaker 3: that still has a lot of good football in front

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Speaker 3: of him. If he experiences the Josh Allen efact, and

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Speaker 3: there's no reason to think that he will not, he

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Speaker 3: should experience that.

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Speaker 2: It will be a huge bargain for this Bill's offense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as you mentioned in the run up to this,

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Speaker 1: three hundred and seventeen targets went out the door with

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Speaker 1: gab Davis plaos well with Gabe Davis, Steph Diggs, Surefield

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Speaker 1: on all the guys. That left. Shakier's the only wide

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Speaker 1: receiver who actually caught a pass last year. So everything

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Speaker 1: is off the table. And I'll grant you Dalton Kincaid

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Speaker 1: is a big X factor here in the target for sure,

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Speaker 1: and so is Shakir because Shaki really did down the

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Speaker 1: stretch become a dependable go to guy, and I mean

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Speaker 1: go to in critical situations, and he did a couple

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Speaker 1: of things last year that I didn't think he had

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Speaker 1: in him. I was I was down on him in

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Speaker 1: his first year, and then he came back last year

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Speaker 1: and he started playing and I thought, Wow, now he's

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Speaker 1: and then at the end of the year, I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: oh man, I was completely off base. In my evaluation

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Speaker 1: of Shakir, he was he was a pros pro last

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Speaker 1: year and when they needed him the most, which is

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Speaker 1: a great quality to have. He and Kinkaid, it's easy

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Speaker 1: to see those guys expanding their role, and certainly over

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Speaker 1: the Kincaid, he got off to a slow start, if

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Speaker 1: you remember, took him like six games to catch touchdown,

647
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Speaker 1: didn't get very many opportunities out of the gate. Then

648
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Speaker 1: he started getting more when Knox got injured. So you

649
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Speaker 1: can expect he and Knox will probably be you know,

650
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: at least splitting all the target tight end the targets

651
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: for the tight ends, but certainly they're gonna get their share,

652
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: and Shakiir is gonna get his as well. So I

653
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: you know, you don't need Curtis Samuel and Mac Hollins

654
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: and Chase Claypool, even Keon Coleman to come in and

655
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: get one hundred and fifty targets. No, sure, you really don't.

656
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: So that really takes the pressure off those guys to

657
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: come in. And I think also with Josh pulling the

658
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: trigger the way he has, and it's not like he's

659
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: gonna say, well I got this, like he may say

660
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: for Shakier a little bit like I'm gonna throw it

661
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: to him all the time, use I trust him, I

662
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: know him. He didn't have that choice. He's no, he's

663
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: gotta spread it around, so they're all gonna get used

664
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Speaker 1: to him and he'll start feeling comfortable with all of

665
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Speaker 1: them sooner or later.

666
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Speaker 2: A few points there.

667
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Speaker 3: The three hundred and seventeen let's call him replaceable targets

668
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: from last year, second most in the NFL. Believe it's

669
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Speaker 3: fifty four percent of their entire targets from last year,

670
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: so over half of the targets have to be replaced.

671
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: Based on however many throws Josh Allen, it was like

672
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Speaker 3: around six hundred last season in the regular season, so

673
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 3: you're right, we are going to see an uptick from

674
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Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir.

675
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Speaker 2: In the regular season and.

676
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Speaker 3: The playoffs, only fifty five targets for Khalil Shakir, which

677
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: is insane.

678
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: It seems like such a low number.

679
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 3: Dalton Kincaid could be well over one hundred targets after

680
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 3: not getting that as a rookie. So no, it's not

681
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 3: that all of these new pieces have to fill in

682
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 3: all three hundred and seventeen of those and to your

683
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: last point, I just want to bring this up. Will

684
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 3: maybe Week one, week two, Josh Allen maybe looked toward

685
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir and Kincaid more because he's he has some

686
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: at least one year of rapport with them, probably, But

687
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 3: I think what is a low key important element to

688
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: why the Bills maybe felt I don't want to say comfortable,

689
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: but we're okay with trading Stefan Diggs down the stretch.

690
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: When they went on that run, they spread the football

691
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: around more than they ever have in the Josh Allen

692
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: and Diggs era, and they won a lot of football games.

693
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 3: That rain soaked overtime game against Philly was the only

694
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: game they lost until the divisional round, and it was

695
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 3: Khalis Shakira had big game, Kink did a big game,

696
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: James Cook had a big game. They were really spreading

697
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 3: the football around. And I think that's where you kind

698
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: of saw the what Joe Brady envisions for this offense,

699
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 3: that the Bills were like, hey, we can win without

700
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs being that funnel him fifteen targets per game.

701
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: Type of guy.

702
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: And I think we're going to see more of that

703
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: spreading the football around. Josh Allen is one of the

704
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: bigger point guards in the NFL. Shakiir is going to

705
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: have a game. Coleman's going to have a game a

706
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 3: second half where it's all Dawson Knox, theer's a lot

707
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: of different weapons, and then some of those you know,

708
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 3: bottom of the roster mvs. Mac Collins. Just catching a

709
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: few passes to spread around the wealth. I think that's

710
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 3: a little bit more important than funneling.

711
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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Chris Trapasso here in one goes Live talking

712
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: about the wide receiver room and all the things. We

713
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: also had some people calling in about Josh. Sanders said,

714
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: if we got another one of those, let's take let's

715
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,479
Speaker 1: take Mike from Hamburg. Mike, you're on with Steve and Chris.

716
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 7: Go ahead, Hi, Hi Chris, how are you doing well?

717
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 5: Okay, First off.

718
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 7: I want to say, I'm gonna change my what I

719
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 7: was gonna say real quick, but what I said right

720
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 7: now is the Bills wide receiver room is gonna be

721
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 7: a matchup nightmare for the whole NFL because of the

722
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 7: side sides of the Skies. This is the first time

723
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 7: since Josh Hallen has been a quarterback for the Bills

724
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 7: we have the size. If we have I believe Pan Coleman,

725
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 7: I believe or Clay, Claypool and MGS are gonna be

726
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 7: extremely used and motivated. And Josh is gonna be able

727
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 7: to throw fifty to fifty balls down the sidelines, and

728
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 7: these guys are gonna be able to pick them up

729
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 7: because of their sides. And the number two is Josh

730
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 7: and it's not gonna have anywhere near the interceptions that

731
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 7: he had last year. And the reason for that is

732
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 7: Stefan Diggs is no longer on the team. And Stefan

733
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 7: Diggs has been ever since he's played in the NFL,

734
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 7: even though I really loved him in Buffalo, he's been

735
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 7: a cry baby because he couldn't get the ball enough.

736
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 7: And Josh, because he wanted to keep him comfortable, keep

737
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 7: him happy, was throwing the ball in the triple coverage,

738
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 7: sometimes double coverage, sometimes over the middle when he shouldn't

739
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 7: have thrown it because Stefan Diggs is there, and now

740
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 7: that he's not, I see Josh Allen with five, maybe

741
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 7: six interceptions next year. But his biggest turnover problem, in

742
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 7: my opinion, is the way he holds the football when

743
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 7: he's running. I'll hang up and listen to it.

744
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that speaks directly to what

745
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 3: we talked about in the last segment that Josh Allen

746
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 3: really in terms of the turnover worthy plays was right

747
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 3: around a lot of quarterbacks that had eight, nine, ten interceptions.

748
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: So I do think it's gonna come down from that,

749
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 3: and it speaks to exactly what we were just mentioning

750
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 3: spreading the football around. Maybe just internally for Josh Allen,

751
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 3: he won't feel like that's third and six, I probably

752
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 3: should look Digg's direction. When that's your number one corner,

753
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 3: they're blanketing him, there's a safety over the top. Now,

754
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 3: Josh can fit it in as well as any quarterback

755
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 3: in those situations, but where he could maybe have more

756
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: of an open mind and say, I have five options

757
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: on this play. I'm really not going to differentiate between

758
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: who I'm throwing it too, because I trust all of

759
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 3: these guys. They're all different shapes and sizes. That probably

760
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: should lead and be a catalyst for those interceptions and

761
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 3: that total to go down.

762
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: This year for you. Yeah, I wouldn't. I don't remember

763
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: Josh throwing it into triple coverage a ton once in

764
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: a while. He did, and certainly Steph was a number

765
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: one option a lot of times because he had the

766
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: ability to beat man coverage here in the city. Yeah,

767
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: he earned it, and that's the way it works. But

768
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: when you think about Josh and the turnovers, that's not

769
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: I don't think turnovers when I think Josh Allen. I

770
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: know a lot of people do, particularly in the national media.

771
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: They're like, I don't know, he turns it over. I

772
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: don't think like that. I think the guy puts pressure

773
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: on the defense every single snap and his weapons, particularly

774
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: under Joe Brady, he spreads it around a ton, he

775
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: really and it makes them almost impossible to defend. Kin

776
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: Kaid gives them an edge. Knox gives them an edge

777
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: with two tight ends that can come in and go heavy.

778
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: When they had Digs and Gabe Davis, and let's not

779
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: forget Gabe Davis was a really good player, and he

780
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: was on the field a lot more than any other

781
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver on the roster, but there were more than

782
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: a handful of games last year where his stat line

783
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: was zero zero, zero zero. You can't on the field

784
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: more than anybody as a wide receiver and have a

785
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: stat line like that.

786
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: You just can't, especially in today NFL, and especially with

787
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: Josh Allen as your quarterback.

788
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: You just can't. And so whoever is out there is

789
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: gonna be in a better spot for that give Josh

790
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: a better option in the passing game than Gabe was

791
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 1: able to do on a number of occasions. So because

792
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: of that, I think, because of that option and having

793
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: somebody over there who will flourish rather than just be there,

794
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: I think that will shave off a couple of interceptions

795
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: over the course of a year. Right there. I am

796
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: just not concerned about Josh's turnovers. I'm not, and I

797
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: think I'm getting the same thing. We're getting a lot

798
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: of the same thing from our fans. I'll tell you

799
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: what we'll take. We'll take one call here from Butcher

800
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: from the east side. Butch, you gotta hurry, you gotta hurry.

801
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: We're up against the break, so go ahead and give

802
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: us what you've got. Butch, go ahead. You're on with

803
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: Stephen Chris.

804
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 4: All right, thanks, thanks Stephen Chris. Real quick, I'm just

805
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 4: gonna say his right fast number one of the past

806
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 4: is his passed. Like all the other seasons, they're gone.

807
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 4: We don't seems to be talking about interceptions and yards

808
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 4: and who got what. Let's go forward with this. This

809
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 4: is the first time in the history of the Buffalo's

810
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 4: organization that dat wide receiver room had that much talent.

811
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 4: I'm talking about from top to bottle, bottom to the ton.

812
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 4: That's one two I want. This is a message to

813
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 4: the receivers in the receiver room. No one on that

814
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 4: team is guaranteed the starting position. Sekire, I don't care

815
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 4: if he's been here last year. Whatever, they're gonna fight.

816
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 4: Curtis Samuel ain't guarantee to stop. Yeah, we can type

817
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 4: if we can say, but he's not. Don't catch your this.

818
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 4: You got a guy named Mark Quiz who got a

819
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 4: Super Bowl ring, and nobody in an organization don't. He's

820
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 4: coming out to play. As you can see, Clay Clays Uh,

821
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 4: Clay Poole, he's ready to ball out six four sixty four.

822
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 4: You're already gonna have King k at the same time.

823
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 4: Pitcher this though Pitcher. Then you got Chian Covid. You

824
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 4: got those three six four, six four sixty four. You

825
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 4: can have Curtis Samuel and James Cook in the batfield

826
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 4: and send Curtis Curtis Stambiard in motion. A linebacker is

827
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 4: gonna have to check him. No one is gonna be

828
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 4: able to stop this. Stop this new Joe Brady office,

829
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 4: the last, but not least Josh Allen. Since he's been

830
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 4: here in Buffalo, New York, he has never had an

831
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator. Anybody who was there was Okay, there was

832
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 4: OJT on the job training even though Joe Brady is.

833
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 4: But Joe Brady showed the last seventh games, Oh what

834
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 4: is going to be like the first play Ota Seed

835
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 4: that you guys went to that you witnessed, They showed

836
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 4: you where Key and Colem was going to be. He

837
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 4: might be in a slot and he catched him one, two,

838
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 4: three out across the middle. Take it up field. That

839
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 4: might be his position, That might be his strength. Thank

840
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 4: you so much for taking my call. I love you, guys,

841
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 4: semi regards to the whole team. I love MSG, I

842
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 4: love WJ and the fans. You definitely love that.

843
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: Thank you, love thanks. But yeah, there's a lot in that.

844
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: And I'll say this to yeah, speaking for the most

845
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: talented wide receiver room in the history of the team,

846
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: that's saying a lot. I don't know if it's true,

847
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: but it is a talented group, no question about it.

848
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: There was a couple of things in there I didn't

849
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: agree with, but now I can't remember what. I A

850
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: lot in it.

851
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, this passionate guy.

852
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, oh yes, Josh Allen has had an offensive coordinator.

853
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: Brian Daboll. Was better than pretty dark Brian Dable. I

854
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: would put up there with any offensive coordinator in today's game.

855
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: So yeah, Josh, and and he brought Josh along when

856
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: Josh was raw. Uh, So I'm you got to give

857
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: kudos to Josh's offensive coordinator, Brian orb So the guy

858
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: that was here, I can't even think of, Brian Dabel,

859
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: Brian Demble, Brian Daball. You got to give him credit

860
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: for the work he did with Josh in his career

861
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Speaker 1: and getting him to where he was. He got him,

862
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: he was so good, he got him a head coaching job. So, uh,

863
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Speaker 1: that was one of the other things I didn't really

864
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Speaker 1: quite agree with. But yes, and here's the thing, the

865
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Speaker 1: one thing you said, you said right at the beginning,

866
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Speaker 1: which they're competing to get on the field, there is

867
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Speaker 1: nothing guaranteed to any of these guys, and and the

868
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: slate is clean, and that I think that's a really

869
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: healthy spot for this wide receiver room.

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00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean quick point here.

871
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 3: I never got the sense that with Diggs and Gabe

872
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 3: Davis as he kind of moved into that number two role,

873
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 3: that anyone was complacent that they didn't work hard. Because

874
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: everything about Digs it was that, you know, he had

875
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: the cryptic tweets and maybe would get mad here and there,

876
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 3: but he was a hard worker.

877
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 2: He was working as hard as he could. Gave Davis

878
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: the same thing.

879
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 3: But it's kind of the signal of this offseason, the

880
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 3: theme that this Bills team has been very good. They

881
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: have they haven't gotten to where they even want to get,

882
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: which is to a super Bowl. They haven't won a

883
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. So I think it's more of a micro

884
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 3: version when you're looking at just the receivers of all right,

885
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: let's kind of blow it up and let all.

886
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: These people fight for a role.

887
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Speaker 3: Because the last couple of years there was like Digs new,

888
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: all right, you can chalk me up for one hundred

889
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 3: and fifty to one hundred and eighty targets gave Davis

890
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 3: were going to throw it to me deep four or

891
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: five times a game. There was kind of these roles

892
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: that were already established where maybe they weren't being pushed

893
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: as hard as they could have now with MVS and Claypool.

894
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 3: Certainly a lot of other players on this roster. Mac Collins,

895
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 3: who was getting up there in age, has been on

896
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: a bunch of teams, and then some of these younger

897
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: guys Ken Coleman, Khalis Shakir trying to make a name

898
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 3: for themselves. I think it was probably time for the

899
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 3: Bills to kind of reset at the wide receiver spot.

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Speaker 3: So there is that hunger in that room to get better.

901
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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a break. We'll come back

902
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Speaker 1: one quick segment coming up before the top of the hour.

903
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Speaker 1: We're gonna continue taking your phone calls. You can give

904
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Speaker 1: us a call an eight h three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Christophosterman One Bill's Live. You're listening to Buffalo

906
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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Didn't talk

907
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: too much about it, but the league meetings are going

908
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: on down in Tennessee. One of the things that is

909
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 1: happening right before, right before we came on, right after

910
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: we got off the air yesterday, they came out with

911
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: the new down marker system. I think it was put

912
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Speaker 1: together by Hawkeye, a company that does camera angles and

913
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: stuff like that. They're gonna use it in the preseason

914
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: to spot the ball for a first.

915
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Speaker 2: Down, right, so long time coming.

916
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Speaker 1: No, Yeah, the chain gangs will be a thing of

917
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: the pass I they'll probably half of I guess. I

918
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: don't know, but they're gonna use some sort of camera

919
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: thing im a jigger to decide if you got the

920
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: first down or not.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not a big soccer guy, but I will

922
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 3: tune into the World Cup every four years when the

923
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: USA is in it. Watched the final and even in

924
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: the last World Cup, they had to determine if a

925
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: soccer player was off sides if the ball fully crossed

926
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 3: the goal. They had this above angle. You see it

927
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: all the time in tennis if the ball is in

928
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 3: or out where a lot of times and it's totally fine.

929
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 3: It's just human error. The line judge makes the wrong call.

930
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 3: We see it a lot in the NFL, where it's

931
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Speaker 3: third and two, Josh, you know, leans forward for a

932
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 3: first down. They call him an insure. They ultimately don't

933
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: get it. It's a huge play in the game. But

934
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Speaker 3: when you see the replay of the third down play,

935
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Speaker 3: it's actually he was more than half a ball over

936
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Speaker 3: getting that first out. So I think for the entire league,

937
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 3: and I'm a football purist, I know the chain gang

938
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: has has certainly been a part of all of our lives,

939
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 3: Steve's lives, but it's important to get the calls right

940
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 3: with how much can be at stake When you're only

941
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: talking about an inch here or half a foot between

942
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: going for it, punting kicking a field goal over going forward,

943
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 3: so many different scenarios that can unfold. And the NFL

944
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 3: certainly has the money to implement this type of technology.

945
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, quot Yeah, it's not a budgetary issue, that's

946
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: for sure. The problem is, here's the thing. The league

947
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: usually gets this stuff right. So sooner or later, if

948
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: this works, you can bet it's gonna happen. But the

949
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: salty part of it is it's gonna work perfectly this preseason.

950
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna work for all these games, gonna be great,

951
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna say, okay, we'll decide next offseason

952
00:47:59,360 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: and then like.

953
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 2: Now, but implement it right right?

954
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, Well it's not going to come into

955
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: the regular season this year and we'll see if it

956
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: works and how it's used and what it's going to

957
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: look like and not for nothing. And you know this too,

958
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you kind of chuckle when

959
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: I say this. Fans gotta like it.

960
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

961
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: If the fans like it, it's gonna stay.

962
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 3: And what's good is with social media today, the NFL

963
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 3: can track in real time. How is the general public.

964
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 3: How are our fans that are buying all these streaming

965
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 3: services now that are going to our stadiums with these

966
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 3: increased ticket prices things like that, how are they receiving it?

967
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 3: And I think, like you're mentioning and kind of your

968
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 3: projection that it's going to work well in the preseason

969
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: and we're not going to have these controversial calls or

970
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 3: where it's clearly a first down but the refs don't

971
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 3: call it a first down. There's probably gonna be something

972
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: with chips that are already in the players jerseys, in

973
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 3: their helmets and then just in the ball that can

974
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 3: be very late weight.

975
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: They won't even know it's there.

976
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 3: I'm guessing that the overall social media response that the

977
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 3: NFL can track in real time will be very good.

978
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is yeah, And this is not one of

979
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: those things where they're gonna implant the balls with a

980
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: chip or something, or the stitching is gonna be made

981
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,479
Speaker 1: of metal so they can detect it. It's not gonna

982
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: be anything like that. This is all cameras. Cameras, okay,

983
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: this is cameras and stuff. So they're not going to

984
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 1: have like a laser across there or a sensing device

985
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: that lets the ball do. This is all hawkeye camera

986
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: angles where they're gonna either have a camera above below

987
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: or on the sidelines, on the sticks, whatever it is,

988
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: and they're gonna go by that. And our good friend

989
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: of the show, Ross Tucker will tell you as well,

990
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: one of the problems is just getting the officials to

991
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: spot the ball correctly.

992
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 3: When you watch a game, you can see so many

993
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 3: times where when the side judge throws it to the

994
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 3: head referee and he might set it back a half

995
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 3: a yard seems insignificant, but then all of a sudden

996
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 3: it's third inches when it should have been a first.

997
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 4: Right.

998
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: That's the kind of thing that gets you. And I'll

999
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: say this about this new technology they're talking about. If

1000
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: it looks good on TV, that's what that's really what matters.

1001
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: It's got to work, no question, they got to get

1002
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: it right and it but it also has and I'll

1003
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: say this too, this thing where all right, let's go out,

1004
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: let's bring the change in. We're gonna measure this. It's

1005
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: like you know the time.

1006
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they've been wanting to get games shortened.

1007
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: Yes, let's they want the game to be three two

1008
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: hours fifty five minutes, between two hours fifty five and

1009
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: three hours long, so it'll fit in a window for

1010
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: people watching TV. They know the game is going to

1011
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: be on one, it's going to be over by four four.

1012
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: They don't want it four to seventeen, you know, uh

1013
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 1: or three hours and fifteen minutes.

1014
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 3: And I think we're seeing that too with replay that

1015
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 3: they're trying to streamline man a little bit.

1016
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: They have the all part of city.

1017
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to see him replay it. I mean, they

1018
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: want to get it right, and that's why they think

1019
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: it plays important. But let's go back look at it. Okay, go,

1020
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: that's the gut it.

1021
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 3: They can call into the head rap that's right. Nope,

1022
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: he's out of bound and.

1023
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: They've got the eye in the sky now that the

1024
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: guy's doing that. So this is all kind of trying

1025
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: to streamline it and I don't you know, bless their hearts.

1026
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: The chain were always these, you know, I wondered where

1027
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: they always got them? You know. Sometimes yeah, but you know,

1028
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: not the most physically fair. When you first start playing football,

1029
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: it's your dad and your friend's dad were holding it,

1030
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: and then the one's got them. You know, you've got

1031
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: three dads over there holding the chains, you know. And

1032
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: so now for the first time in human history, they

1033
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: might have a machine that can help them.

1034
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's something that can't be an inexact science.

1035
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 3: With how big, how much money is in the NFL today,

1036
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 3: what's at stake? Not saying that there wasn't anything at

1037
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 3: stake in the eighties, nineties and before, but now that

1038
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 3: the technology is available, you might as well use it.

1039
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: Right Steve Tasker, Chris Tapasso here one Bill's Live. We're

1040
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: gonna come back. We're gonna talk about some of the

1041
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: things and what we can expect. We've talked about what

1042
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: we can expect from a wide receiver room. We'll take

1043
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: your calls on that. Now we're going to talk about

1044
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: what we can expect from the eighth year of an

1045
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback that we've got Our guy just had a

1046
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 1: birthday yesterday. He's starting his eighth year. What have happened

1047
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: is what has happened to some of the other quarterbacks

1048
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: in their eighth year in the National Football League'll talk

1049
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: about it in the next half Hower Steve Tasker, Christaphasso

1050
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. This

1051
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Calllia Health. Welcome

1052
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: into One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker, Chris Carpasso sitting in

1053
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: for Chris Brown. Today we've been talking about, you know,

1054
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: projections and how you might think teams are, especially the Bills,

1055
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: how you think certain players might do given the history

1056
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: of players like them coming to Buffalo from other teams

1057
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: like Steph Diggs, Cole Beasley, and John Brown in the past.

1058
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: Now we've got Mac Hollins, Curtis Samuel, Chase, Claypool coming

1059
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: onto the team from other NFL teams. What might we

1060
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: expect from them given the fact that they've been playing

1061
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: with other quarterbacks other than Josh Allen. How it worked

1062
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: for Steph Diggs and Beasley and Brown, and how it

1063
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: might work for those guys. Now we're getting to the

1064
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: point where and I mistakenly said it was eighth year

1065
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: in the league. It's Josh's seventh year coming up. He's

1066
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Speaker 1: twenty eight. He turned twenty eight yesterday. It's not his

1067
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: eighth year, as he's twenty eight. But this point in

1068
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: Josh's career, where were some other notable quarterbacks in their

1069
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: trajectory in their own careers, and how might that be

1070
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: maybe a measuring stick for where what we can expect

1071
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: from Josh.

1072
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was important to look at that,

1073
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 3: not only just because it was Josh Allen's birthday yesterday,

1074
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 3: but because really starting in his third season in twenty twenty,

1075
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 3: where the Bills win the AFC East for the first

1076
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 3: time in twenty five years, Josh Allen finished his second

1077
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 3: in the MVP race, it was like, oh, he's in

1078
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 3: his prime. He's twenty four years old at the time,

1079
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 3: and the Bills have gotten that elite level play from

1080
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 3: Josh Allen since that time twenty twenty. The last three

1081
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 3: years have been all you know, He's been the number

1082
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 3: one fantasy quarterback in three of the last four years, was.

1083
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: Number two in twenty twenty two.

1084
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 3: But I wanted to know historically, really, when is a

1085
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 3: quarterback in his prime when is his prime year. So

1086
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 3: what I did is I looked at ten quarterbacks and

1087
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 3: I certainly picked and choose quarterbacks that I felt were

1088
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 3: entering that age twenty eight season in that same elite

1089
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 3: realm that Josh Allen is in now. And if you're

1090
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 3: watching on MSGW you can see the graphic. But guys,

1091
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 3: I chose Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, Dak Prescott, Phillip Rivers,

1092
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 3: Tom Brady, Donovan mc you know similarly, you know, high

1093
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 3: end quarterback in his prime could move around a little bit,

1094
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, Matt Ryan, Matthew Stafford and not pictured on

1095
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 3: this awesome graphic made by tom is Russell Wilson.

1096
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 2: I don't think he would have fit in there.

1097
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 3: On this full screen you see the level of production

1098
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 3: and the accolades that these quarterbacks had in their age

1099
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 3: twenty eight season. And from my research, either age twenty

1100
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 3: seven or age twenty eight for these quarterbacks, that's really

1101
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 3: when most of them had some of their career years.

1102
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers wins MVP, Peyton Manning, MVP, Matthew or Matt

1103
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 3: Ryan MVP Super Bowl appearance. Donovan McNabb gets to the

1104
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 3: Super Bowl with the Eagles, Patrick Mahomes just off his

1105
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 3: age twenty eight season wins the Super Bowl, Philip Rivers

1106
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 3: made a Pro Bowl. There was a few Stafford, Dak Prescott,

1107
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 3: and Wilson didn't have any accolades. But those averages sixty

1108
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 3: six percent completion, forty three hundred yards passing, thirty one touchdowns,

1109
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 3: eleven interceptions. So, for as much as we've heard about

1110
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 3: the window closing as Josh Allen getting older recent history,

1111
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 3: and these are of course quarterbacks over the last ten

1112
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 3: to fifteen years, and as recent as last year with

1113
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes.

1114
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 2: Age twenty eight is really right.

1115
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 3: When these quarterbacks hit their primes, the perfect combination of

1116
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 3: experience and they still have age on their side.

1117
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: And last year Josh threw for right at all of

1118
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: those numbers. He had twenty nine throwing touchdowns, but he

1119
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: had eighteen interceptions. But he also, as we all know,

1120
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: he also had fifteen rushing touchdowns, so he's crushing it.

1121
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: But those are right there in his wheel. As he

1122
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: did have a little bit of a higher a few

1123
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,959
Speaker 1: ticks higher completion percentage than the average of those guys did.

1124
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: But that's right where your guy is.

1125
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: His passing hours were like right there for it.

1126
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: And last year he was in the conversation for the

1127
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: MVP despite the eighteen interceptions and the narrative that was

1128
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: going around about you know, all that stuff, and let's

1129
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: face it, two for nothing. The MVP, particularly in the

1130
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: run up through the season, it has to do with

1131
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: how your team's playing. And this team was six and

1132
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: six through a stretch of this through the first twelve games,

1133
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: so it wasn't like they were knocking out of the

1134
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: park and nobody could talk about anything else or all

1135
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: of that stuff. It was it was a struggle for

1136
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: him through twelve games, and then they switched the offensive

1137
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: coordinators and then of course they closed with a flurry

1138
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: and ended up winning yet another playoff game in Josh

1139
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: Allen's career. And uh, and they're off to the races.

1140
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 4: Uh.

1141
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: That's kind of where you're at with Josh now. And

1142
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: I think you have to if you're Bills fan, whether

1143
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: whether it happens or not, I think most Bills fan

1144
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: they're expecting to step forward with Joe Brady in the

1145
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: offseason and another year under his belt and some new

1146
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: weapons and more athletic weapons. Certainly, Steph Diggs is a

1147
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: heck was a great athlete and all that, but the

1148
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: guys take that are vying for Gabe Davis's spot and

1149
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: Steph Diggs's spot As a whole, they're a tick more

1150
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: athletic and obviously a tick younger.

1151
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 3: And I thought it was important beyond just the age

1152
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 3: to look at what these similarly experienced, elite level quarterbacks

1153
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 3: did at age twenty eight, because I think you're right

1154
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 3: that locally it's hey, let's see what this offense looks like.

1155
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 2: It's going to be.

1156
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 3: Joe Brady's fully to himself, there's so many different bodies

1157
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 3: in the receiver room, a lot of bigger talent, but

1158
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 3: I think nationally.

1159
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 2: It's, oh, Josh Allen's going to take a step back.

1160
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 3: It's going to be So I think it was important

1161
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 3: to look and say, which you can't go through all

1162
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 3: ten of those experiences and say, oh, hey, what did

1163
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson's receiver group like?

1164
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 2: Was it better? Was it worse than the season before?

1165
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 2: But when I think.

1166
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 3: You look at ten of them, they probably had a

1167
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 3: pretty wide range of Some had great wide receiver groups,

1168
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 3: some had great offensive lines, some didn't. And to come

1169
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 3: right out at very very close to what Josh Allen

1170
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 3: did this past year. If Josh Allen completed sixty six

1171
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 3: percent of his passes for forty three hundred yards with

1172
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 3: thirty one touchdowns and eleven picks, the Bills are gonna

1173
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 3: be the one or the two seed in the AFC.

1174
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: That's what I think, and that's where he's gonna be.

1175
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna be right there again. They're gonna

1176
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: be really difficult to beat. And I'll say one of

1177
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: the reasons is despite their dead cap.

1178
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 2: Number, they've done a good job filling out the roster.

1179
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: They're getting value for the for the money they're spending.

1180
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: They've got some guys that are out performing their contracts.

1181
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: And certainly Josh earns every penny of whatever what is

1182
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: a forty two or forty three as cap number is,

1183
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: the guy earns every cent of that. So it's yeah,

1184
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: I think his cap hits thirty million this year. You're

1185
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: telling me that's not a bargain. He's making as much

1186
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: as wide receiver at Miami less.

1187
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 3: And with how we've seen now two is gonna probably

1188
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 3: get a new deal or could two gets a Trevor

1189
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 3: Lawrence as well, And suddenly Josh Allen's going to be

1190
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 3: like almost outside of.

1191
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: The top ten.

1192
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's he's helping that out a lot.

1193
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about it. They're getting good value from

1194
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: other position groups, and the Bills, who I think set

1195
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: the standard or set the trend for signing one year deals,

1196
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: a lot of teams are mimicking that. A lot of

1197
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: teams around the league manage their cap with one year

1198
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: deals to free agents who have a chance to compete

1199
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: and swing for one more big contract and also being

1200
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: highly motivated in that one year. I'll pass Rusher last year,

1201
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd.

1202
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 3: There will be I mean, some of these, one of

1203
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 3: your guys will ultimately not stick.

1204
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 2: But even if a few do.

1205
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 3: If Dwayne Smoot, who was really good in Jacksonville hits,

1206
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 3: there's so many. If Chase Claypool hits, then you're getting

1207
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 3: great bang for your buck. You're not paying those guys

1208
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 3: very much money. And like Taylor Rapp last season, the

1209
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 3: Bills liked what they got from him. He has the

1210
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 3: interception to kind of seal the or to seal the

1211
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 3: AFC East against the Dolphins in Week eighteen last year.

1212
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: He was on a one year deal.

1213
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 3: Last season, they resigned him What I also think is

1214
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 3: important too that I said that they have done a

1215
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 3: very good job I think building the roster out even

1216
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 3: with the big dead cap hit with Steph Diggs. The

1217
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two draft kyer Elam we'll see he's still

1218
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 3: on the roster has been disappointing. But James Cook in

1219
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 3: round two, Terrel Bernard in round three, Khalil Shakir in

1220
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 3: round five, and Christian Benford in round six.

1221
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: That is spectacular.

1222
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 3: Drafting cheap guys that are not just solid role players.

1223
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 3: Christian Benford I think is the best corner around the team.

1224
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir, what you know, highest cutch rate in football.

1225
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 3: He's your starting slot receiver. James Cook was one of

1226
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 3: the highest all purpose yards backs in football last season,

1227
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 3: and Terrel Bernard was a playmaker all over the field

1228
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 3: and I think was low key a big reason why

1229
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 3: the Bills were not able to beat the Chiefs because

1230
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 3: he didn't play in that game he got hurt against

1231
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 3: the Steelers. Having those drafts, you don't need to hit

1232
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 3: on every single draft, but if you have one of those.

1233
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 2: Twenty eighteen, of course, was another one.

1234
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 3: That young twenty twenty two draft class is becoming kind

1235
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 3: of a core of this team in twenty twenty four.

1236
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: I'll say this too about the defense, I think Kayer

1237
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: is going to be refreshed with a new coach, with

1238
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: a new coaching staff, a new set of eyes on him.

1239
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 2: The detailor there.

1240
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tredavius White is not there anymore. That that puts

1241
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: him a tick higher on the on the depth chart. Athletically,

1242
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: he's superior to anybody else in the defensive secondary anybody. Uh,

1243
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: He's the top of the food chain athletically and certainly

1244
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: even in the game and the playoff game against the Steelers,

1245
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: we kind of rode the roller coaster with him there

1246
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: for about four plays in a row. He had a penalty,

1247
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: a penalty, and then the end zone.

1248
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 3: Uh, he's intercepted Patrick Mahomes. It's not like he's been

1249
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 3: a total disaster.

1250
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: But I think I think that's going to be a

1251
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: player that if he gives you, even if he gives

1252
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: you that kind of play the the off the chart

1253
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: playmaking ability that you're going to get from him, even

1254
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: if you do if he does give up a holding

1255
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: call too often, those plays are gonna make it worth it.

1256
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: And I think we're gonna see a lot more of

1257
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: Kyrie Elam on the field this year for the Bills,

1258
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: and I think people are gonna be pleasantly so prize.

1259
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: Hopefully he plays well enough to ask him like, why

1260
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: where's he been, you know kind of thing. So we'll

1261
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: see if that happens. But athletically, no question, he's going

1262
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: to get a chance and he's going to compete hard

1263
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: and I think probably make the most of this opportunity.

1264
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 3: And I think specifically with him to kind of even

1265
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 3: zero in a little more. Christian Benford, I think is

1266
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 3: the best corner on this team. You can look at

1267
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 3: a lot of advanced stats. He was up there with

1268
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 3: you know how many snaps he played to pass breakups.

1269
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 3: He's a great zone corner, like you're mentioning. Kyer Elam though,

1270
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 3: is a next level up. Athletically he gives Sean McDermott,

1271
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 3: who has, you know, long been a big proponent of

1272
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 3: utilizing zone, having the cornerbacks, the linebackers with their eyes

1273
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 3: on the quarterback to make plays on the football. Tradevious

1274
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 3: White Terarren Johnson always near the top of the league,

1275
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 3: even Tremaine Admins Matt Malone always getting their hands on

1276
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 3: the football with kyer Elam at his size, with his

1277
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 3: athletic chops, they can mix and mask, mix and match

1278
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 3: coverage a little better. Where you can say this side

1279
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 3: of the field is zone. This side of the field,

1280
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 3: where kyer Elam is, that's going to be man coverage.

1281
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 3: So when you're an opposing quarterback, you step back, you

1282
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 3: look right all right that zone over there, and then

1283
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 3: you look to the other side you figure its zone.

1284
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 3: And kyer Elam's in the hip pocket of a wide receiver.

1285
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Speaker 3: That definitely helps just Diet to really hide things and

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Speaker 3: mask what they're doing defensively.

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Speaker 2: So he doesn't need to turn into an all pro.

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Speaker 3: But if he just is a little bit more steady

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Speaker 3: and gives those high watermark plays, then I think that

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Speaker 3: would be a huge and have a big ripple effect

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Speaker 3: on this kind of rework secondary for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tashker along with Chris Trapasso, we're here talking about

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, where he falls, where his where what we

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Speaker 1: can expect from him a career wise, about where he's been.

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Speaker 1: You look at those ten names you had that graphic

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Speaker 1: that we had with those ten quarterbacks that are kind

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Speaker 1: of household names, and you look at the bottom of

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Speaker 1: their averages sixty six point two percent completion percentage. Last year,

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Speaker 1: Josh had sixty six point five forty three hundred and

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01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: thirteen yards. Last year, Josh for forty three hundred and six. Wow,

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Speaker 1: Josh had twenty nine touchdowns. Their average was thirty one.

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01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: They had eleven tds and of course I mean eleven interceptions.

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01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: Of course, Josh had it famously had eighteen last year, which,

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Speaker 1: like you said, though.

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Speaker 3: The turnover worthy play rate should have been ten, it

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Speaker 3: should have been nine to ten.

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Speaker 1: So that he's right there as well. And that's the

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Speaker 1: average of all of those guys who had you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll see there's three MVPs, three or four Super Bowl appearances,

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Speaker 1: and a bunch of Pro Bowls and some and.

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Speaker 2: Some titles, and all those teams made the playoffs, by

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Speaker 2: the way, all.

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Speaker 1: Those yes, all those teams are on the play And

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Speaker 1: that's the thing, the absolute floor, this whole conversation, for

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Speaker 1: this whole offense, this whole team is a playoff berth.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 1: The upper end is the one seed. There's no doubt

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Speaker 1: in my mind they've got that. They're going to have

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01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: the horses to do it. The question is can they

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01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: put it together fast enough. I'm really interested to see

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01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: what this receiver room is gonna come together, how it's

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01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: gonna come together, because you can bet they're gonna keep

1323
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: i would say most games, not every game, but most games,

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01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna keep six wide receivers on the field active.

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01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: One of them is gonna be returning kicks and punts

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01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: depending on how this kickoff coverage kickoff play goes. Teams

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01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: are talking a lot about it in their pre season

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01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: thought process about how who they're gonna use on it.

1329
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: Crazy stuff going around about having you know, justin fields

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01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: backed on kickoff kickoff returns for the Steelers, that kind

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01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: of stuff's flying around. Chase Claypool have been mentioned in

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01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: kickoff in special team scenarios, and that's the first thing

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01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: you think of the Bills having an international player who's

1334
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: six's eight three ten who carry the football in rugby.

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01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: All of this stuff kind of gets tossed about. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll see.

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Speaker 3: I'm the most an issue. Yeah, I'm the most interested.

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Speaker 3: And this is again to kind of further your point,

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01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 3: which is a good one in that's just how it

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01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 3: shakes out at receiver, but how we see different alignments

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01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 3: because the Bills were pretty stagnant. Where Stefan Diggs was

1342
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 3: your ex receiver. Occasionally they would reduce him down to

1343
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 3: the slot. Gabe Davis was rarely, if ever, in the slot.

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Speaker 3: He was always on the boundary. They could move around

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01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 3: the tight ends a little bit because Dawson Knox has

1346
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 3: proven to be a good blocker. But for his career,

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01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 3: Curtis Samuel has only been in the slot fifty two

1348
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 3: percent of the time. He can play on the perimeter.

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Speaker 2: He's smaller. John Brown was smaller. He was right around.

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Speaker 1: Steph was not heavy.

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Speaker 3: Steph was not necessarily that heavy. I don't think I

1352
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 3: think there's an old school thought where to be on

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01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 3: the outside you have to be six two two ten round.

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Speaker 2: That's not really the change.

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01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, or a Chase Claypool or one of these other.

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01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 3: Guys, yes, or bigger than that or six three six four.

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Speaker 3: In today's NFL. We've talked about it before. We were

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01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 3: seeing so much of an onus on smaller, lighter receivers

1359
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 3: and to just align them everywhere. I want to see

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Speaker 3: Dalton Kincaid all the way on the outside. I want

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01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 3: to see Curtis Samuel in the slot with the formation

1362
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Speaker 3: where Dawson Knox is in the backfield and they motion

1363
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Speaker 3: him out wide. I want to see the difference in

1364
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 3: formation and what they're showing pre and post snap. If

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Speaker 3: they really are going to be this offense that is

1366
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 3: going to spread the football around, I think what aligns

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01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 3: with that is not having players in stagnant specific roles

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01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 3: to create mismatches every single play, every single series.

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Speaker 1: For Josh Allen, it's it is going to be interesting

1370
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: to see and I think you know, when training camp

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01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: comes around and they start to install shake through this,

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Speaker 1: we'll be able to watch. As you know, the practices

1373
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: are open for us to go see, we'll be able

1374
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: to get an idea of how they see these guys

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01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: and what their their vision is for them. Certainly in

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01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: training camp doesn't tell you everything because they practice behind

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01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: closed doors a lot of times, and certainly when the

1378
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: when the regular season begins, nobody watches practice. So it'll

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01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 1: be probably different on game day than we've seen. But

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt in today's NFL you exploit whatever your

1381
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: team does well. It's not I'll say it again, we

1382
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: say it all the time. You don't put an offense

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01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: in and then put your and tell your players to

1384
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 1: run it. You find out what your players do well,

1385
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: and you build an offense around what they do well.

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01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: If you've got a skill sets divert well, I mean,

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01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: the roster is enormous, so your skill set is absolutely

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01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: unbelievably diverse. Right now, when you get down to the

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Speaker 1: regular season, you only have six guys on game day,

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Speaker 1: what are they going to be able to do? And

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Speaker 1: how's that offense going to look at with their skill

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Speaker 1: sets on the field.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I wonder to that point that maybe Joe Brady,

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01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 3: and I'm sure he does, has a vision of all right,

1395
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 3: here's how I want my offense to look based on

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01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 3: his time with the Saints with Sean Payton, certainly at

1397
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 3: LSU with Joe Burrow and Jamaar Chase and Justin Jefferson,

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01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 3: the surprisingly efficient season that he had with Teddy Bridgewater

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01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 3: and Curtis Samuel twenty twenty in Carolina. But maybe we

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01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 3: will see early in the preseason, maybe even leaking all

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01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 3: the way into those three preseason games, that Joe Brady,

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01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 3: even in that condensed time, has to kind of mold

1403
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 3: his offense to say, look, actually, two or three of

1404
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 3: these bigger bodies are really good going up and getting it.

1405
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 3: Maybe we're gonna toss more back shoulder throws. Maybe we're

1406
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 3: gonna utilize down the field a lot more than we expected.

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01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 3: Maybe kJ Hamler becomes a great burner for this team.

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01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 3: So for as much as a lot of other offenses,

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01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 3: whether it's the Shanahan Tree or you know, a lot

1410
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 3: of offensive coordinators, here's their offense. This is what they're

1411
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 3: gonna run. I think that Joe Brady, given his age

1412
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 3: and his relative you know, youthfulness at this role, could say, look,

1413
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 3: we have so many weapons, let's see how this offense

1414
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 3: kind of takes shape in the summer months and into

1415
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 3: the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about it. And the creativity is what,

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01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, fans kind of find intriguing. They want to

1418
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:52,679
Speaker 1: see a guy do something that they didn't understand.

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01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 4: You know.

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01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: The shovel passes one big thing from it in the end,

1421
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: a rounds and misdirections, misdirection that kind of stuff, and

1422
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: it's all great, but you're talking about just getting first

1423
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: downs and you may see some of this stuff. You know,

1424
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: obviously the red zone where you might just chuck it

1425
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: up there and let a guy go up and get it,

1426
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,600
Speaker 1: but also on a third and six, throw it up

1427
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 1: and let the guy get it and come down with

1428
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 1: a first down. All of that's in play, you know

1429
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: for this squad with all these guys and Dawson Knox

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01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: and don't Dawson Knox is a tree. I mean he's

1431
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: he really played last year. Yeah, the creativity they showed

1432
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 1: last year with the sixth offensive lineman coming off the

1433
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: onto the field a lot down close in the red zone,

1434
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: and the goal to go situations. They did that a

1435
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 1: ton last year. You can look for more of that

1436
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 1: in this season as well. And I think that is,

1437
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: as much as anything, is the thing that fans find

1438
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 1: enjoyable when you got an offensive coordinator who does stuff

1439
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: that you don't expect, a person who watches the team

1440
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 1: every play, and they think, oh wow, that's kind of

1441
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: cool that people love it.

1442
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 3: But now there's so many new pieces and a new

1443
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. I don't think really anyone, maybe even Joe Brady,

1444
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 3: don't know exactly how it's going to look and how

1445
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 3: that bleeds into the regular season. Again, in the last

1446
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 3: couple of years, you're facing the Bills, all right, Steph

1447
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 3: Diggs is gonna be here he's gonna get twelve targets

1448
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 3: gave Davis. They're gonna chuck it deep to him three

1449
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 3: times week one through week five or six until there's

1450
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Speaker 3: really some film on this offense.

1451
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 2: Those first couple teams facing the Bills.

1452
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 3: Are not gonna have a blueprint to watch this summer

1453
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 3: and get ready for that week one, week two, week

1454
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 3: three game, because I don't really think anyone knows how

1455
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 3: this offense will really start to take shape until they're playing.

1456
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Christerrpasso here, we're gonna be here with

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01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: you until three o'clock. Got another half hour of the show.

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01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a lot more about Josh Allen, this

1459
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 1: wide receiver corps, what this offense may look like. We'll

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01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: take your calls at a too three zero five point

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01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 1: fifty or one eight eight five fifty two five point fifty.

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01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 1: Give us a call if you have something to add

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Speaker 1: to the conversation. We'll be right back after this break.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Christapasso and Buffalo Bills Radio, Welcome back to

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01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: One Bill's Life. Steve Tasker, Chris Trpasso here with you today.

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01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 1: Chris Brown's not not in today. We've been talking about

1467
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen the Wide Receiver Room, that the league meetings

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01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: are going on down in Nashville right now, the commissioner.

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01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 1: The big news of the day out of there two things.

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Speaker 1: One is the first down marker. They're going to use

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Speaker 1: this new electronic camera tracking technology, UH to use it

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01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 1: for first down markers in all the preseason game now

1473
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: they say, and now I've said earlier that you know,

1474
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 1: they do it for preseason, then it goes away. It

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01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: works fine, and everything that goes away for a year

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01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 1: and they bring it back and maybe they'll implement implement

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01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 1: it later. They're the rhetoric coming out says, well, they're

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01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 1: thinking about really actually using it.

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01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 2: They usually wait a full year to test something out

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01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 2: and then implement it.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: It's this optical Steve is Bosto over in the others.

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01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 1: It's called this optical tracking technology.

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01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:06,719
Speaker 2: So it sounds fancy.

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01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 5: Yea.

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Speaker 1: One of my co workers is actually listened to the show,

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01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 1: so he's involved with it. They're going to use this

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01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 1: in all the all the stadiums. If it works well

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01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 1: and all this yahda YadA, they're gonna they'll use it

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01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 1: during the regular season. That's what they said. Maybe they

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01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 1: will if it works, well, I'm all for it if

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01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 1: it's great, that's fine. If it works, But more likely

1493
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna try it, talk about it chew on another offseason.

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01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 1: Then maybe if it works perfectly, they'll put it in

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01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, that's happening this preseason. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: kind of fun to see now. Other than that, they've

1497
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: also brought up once again the topic of the offseason.

1498
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 1: As far as the league meetings goes, this eighteen game schedule,

1499
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 1: I think it's a foregone conclusion. I don't think it's

1500
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 1: any question they're gonna go to eighteen games. They're going

1501
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 1: to do it sooner rather than later.

1502
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 2: And do you like it or no?

1503
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have a problem.

1504
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 3: I think it's perfect, especially two by weeks, super Bowl

1505
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 3: on President's Day weekend.

1506
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 1: That to me, see, to me, I've been saying this,

1507
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 1: Brownie and I've had this on running gag that it's

1508
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 1: my plan anyway. And I think you start training camp

1509
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: when they started two weeks of training camp, two preseason games,

1510
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: you start the season before Labor Day, and then when

1511
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 1: Labor Day gets there, the whole league takes a bye week.

1512
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 1: Oh Labor Day weekends off, let's all go travel, Let's

1513
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: get outside and have a barbecue for the weekend. Then

1514
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: if you start with a sixteen game schedule and sprinkle

1515
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: in a bye week for everybody after that, and the

1516
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 1: super Bowl is when it is President's Day weekend. So

1517
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: that's what I thought they should do, But that now

1518
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 1: they're just they're just gonna push it back into wherever

1519
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 1: President's Day weekend is, and that's where the season is

1520
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 1: going to start working back with two bye weeks.

1521
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 2: You need the two by weeks. Like at this point,

1522
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 2: I think I don't have a problem with it.

1523
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: I think another thing that is missing. If you're going

1524
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 1: to go that far and they think, oh it's Jai, Yeah, okay,

1525
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 1: they're going to play eighteen games, so get used to it.

1526
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 1: The player safety thing is listen, playing another game is

1527
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 1: like catastrophic. No, it's just incrementally bad. What I think

1528
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,839
Speaker 1: they should do, if you're really talking about player safety,

1529
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 1: is give the NFL teams fifty five guys on the

1530
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: roster fifty guys on game day, or fifty seven guys

1531
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: on the roster fifty guys on game day. That gives

1532
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,839
Speaker 1: you more bodies to spread around. It spreads the workload

1533
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 1: out just that much more of another few percentage points,

1534
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 1: and it makes the game safer because of it.

1535
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 3: And I think an offshoot of that, I wonder if

1536
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 3: the new kickoff rules that teams are going to now

1537
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 3: really start to care a little bit more about who's

1538
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 3: on special teams for that kickoff play when the last

1539
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 3: ten years it's been kind of like, I mean, that's sure,

1540
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 3: I need the guys, but right now you need really

1541
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 3: good tacklers, you need a good returner.

1542
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: Well, it's a different type of play, and it remains

1543
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: to be seeing what they need, but there is going

1544
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 1: to be less risk. So you could risk you put

1545
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: a Steph Diggs out there to cover, or you put

1546
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 1: all your athletes on the field eleven guy. You put

1547
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 1: five dbs, five wide receivers and a couple and a

1548
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 1: running back.

1549
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 2: The injury rates are way lower, right.

1550
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 1: And all those guys can handle the ball, and then

1551
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: you have, you know, all this kind of other stuff happening.

1552
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 1: You've got the possibility that any one of those eleven

1553
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 1: guys could end up with the ball in his hands.

1554
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 3: So it feels like they would probably expand to me,

1555
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 3: to me fifty three up to culture to sixty.

1556
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 1: Seems to me like that's that's the way to do it.

1557
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 1: From fifty three guys on the roster, go to fifty

1558
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: seven or fifty eight and then have fifty for the game.

1559
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 3: And our producer Jay brought up a good point in

1560
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 3: the commercial that there's all about like a lot of

1561
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 3: talk with these eighteen game schedule proposals that you know

1562
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 3: injury risk, but you get two by weeks. You also

1563
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 3: get more money for the players to take from, so

1564
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 3: the salary cap goes up.

1565
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 1: They don't get that game eighteen game for free.

1566
01:17:58,640 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 2: Exactly, they don't get it.

1567
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 1: That's with the extra broadcast industry. I'm talking about.

1568
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:07,560
Speaker 3: Oh sure, with the extra bye week with potentially larger rosters,

1569
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 3: and now the sailory cap is from a larger pie

1570
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 3: that that you're taking. It's like right around fifty percent.

1571
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 3: I think the NFLPA would would would be pretty good

1572
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 3: with this and probably sign off on it.

1573
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: Well. I said this at a at a get together

1574
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: last week when they announced the schedule that you know

1575
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 1: they're going to go to an eighteen somebody asked a question.

1576
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: I said, it's they're going to go to eighteen game

1577
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,759
Speaker 1: schedule I'll say this too. You haven't heard a peep

1578
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 1: out of the union. No, nothing. They are not laying

1579
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 1: it's an outrage of no, because they're getting paid for it,

1580
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:42,759
Speaker 1: and it's it's just a bigger it's another two hundred

1581
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: million minimum on the on the cap right away.

1582
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 3: And who knows what could be with streaming and adding

1583
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 3: an extra game, and how they've really reconfigured that they're

1584
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 3: sucking as much money from Netflix and Amazon and who

1585
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 3: knows what games will be on.

1586
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 1: People they're not. It's not a budgetary issue. No, it's

1587
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 1: a player safety issue and a workloaded shoe for the

1588
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 1: players for sure. And you can mitigate both of those

1589
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 1: things with an extra bye week, a little bit larger roster,

1590
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,879
Speaker 1: particularly on game day. The player's safety on a kickoff.

1591
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: You bring up a good point. The most dangerous play

1592
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 1: in football hasn't always been has always been kickoff kickoff

1593
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: return because back in the days when I was doing it,

1594
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 1: in the years, it was a lot of guys on

1595
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: both teams running at each other with a lot of momentum,

1596
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 1: and they're not trying to avoid, they're just banging. They're

1597
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: just crushing each other.

1598
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 4: Right.

1599
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, today, obviously a dangerous play. So they mitigated that.

1600
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: You can't have the wedge anymore. You can't have double

1601
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 1: teams on guys anymore. You can't, you know, there are

1602
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 1: certain things you can't do. You have to get guys

1603
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: spread out all over the field, even on on side kicks.

1604
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 1: They've mitigated the risk a lot. Now they're taking another

1605
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: step and they're giving you the kickoff play as if

1606
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: it was an old time kickoff play. Is three quarters

1607
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 1: of the way finished. They're already all down in the game, Yes,

1608
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 1: all the way down there. Already, you kick it down

1609
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: there and then the play takes off. So they're not

1610
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: a sixty five yard run where these guys are going

1611
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:08,600
Speaker 1: one hundred miles an hour and these guys on the

1612
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: return team are going zero. It's not going to happen

1613
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: like that. So they're keeping it. They're making it safer.

1614
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: They're making it like the end of a running play

1615
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 1: or the end of a punt plague a little bit.

1616
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,759
Speaker 1: So all of those things make it a little safer,

1617
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 1: which means, hey, throw another game in there. And I

1618
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 1: say one of the big issues that a tradeoff would

1619
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 1: be give them some more guys on the roster the

1620
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,600
Speaker 1: football team the football side of it will love it.

1621
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: They already have sixty nine guys in the building. You know,

1622
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: you got fourteen guys on your practice squad and or

1623
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:46,680
Speaker 1: sixteen guys on your practice squad and fifty three on

1624
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: your roster. I mean much of it. You could just

1625
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 1: change the designation. Just make the practice squad twelve, make

1626
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 1: the roster fifty seven. It's the same number of guys

1627
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 1: in the building, and just some of them are paying salary.

1628
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 3: It would be the same thing as adding another game,

1629
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 3: but taking away a preseason game like they've done.

1630
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and the preseason game goes away. Yeah, and

1631
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 1: it's just two.

1632
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 3: And they've gone down to three. And I don't think

1633
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 3: anyone cares. I think it's nobody better and nobody cares.

1634
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 3: And if there's two, I think that's still find The

1635
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 3: players are like that too.

1636
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, and also too it also it makes them

1637
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: more interesting because now you got to that's the only

1638
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,680
Speaker 1: two you get, you know. It's it's how do you

1639
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 1: handle your star rage? How many? Yeah, the valuations are hard.

1640
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 1: You want to get your starters sometime, so you give

1641
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 1: them that first game right out of the gate, first

1642
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 1: preseason game. Your starters kind of step out there and

1643
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 1: take the whole half and then they get two weeks

1644
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,719
Speaker 1: off before the regular season opener.

1645
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see first season of the Bills new

1646
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 3: stadium twenty twenty six as early as that year two

1647
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 3: years from now, eighteen game schedule with a lot of

1648
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 3: those ideas that that you've thought of that would just.

1649
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 1: It.

1650
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 2: Is it, Steve Taskers Ye proposal totally?

1651
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? And I I tell people this

1652
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: once in a while some people go, oh, they didn't

1653
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: think they hadn't thought about it less. This season upcoming

1654
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four regular season for the Buffalo Bills is

1655
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 1: the next to the last season in the stadium. Nuts,

1656
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: there's another there's another sixteen games or eighteen games in

1657
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 1: this stadium and that's it. It's over.

1658
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:18,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the.

1659
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 1: Next to the last season in Himark Stadium.

1660
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 3: Two things I'm really looking forward to, and of course

1661
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:26,839
Speaker 3: not getting ahead of myself and wishing away the twenty

1662
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 3: twenty four season, because I'm very excited for it, as

1663
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 3: I think all Bills fans should be. I'm excited to see, though,

1664
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five, what the Bills organization does to

1665
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 3: commemorate some of the big memories of a lot of

1666
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 3: which you were a part of, Steve in the nineties,

1667
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 3: that happened inside that stadium from seventy two on. Like,

1668
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:49,799
Speaker 3: I'm really excited for that. My dad's been a season

1669
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 3: ticket holder since the seventies. He'll probably love just all

1670
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 3: the types of celebrations that they'll do. And secondly, across

1671
01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 3: the street now, it's like every time I come in

1672
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 3: to co Hoo, the stadium is way further along than

1673
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 3: I expected. I think we're gonna look for the close

1674
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 3: to being done sooner than we think.

1675
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 1: For the time being, they're ahead of schedule. That's great

1676
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:12,919
Speaker 1: for the time being, but you know how that is. Yeah,

1677
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 1: you know, have one winner and well yeah, or one

1678
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 1: guy breaks his leg and then it's everything grinds to

1679
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 1: the stop and they haul him. You know that that

1680
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 1: kind of thing. It's like the games everything. Uh, for

1681
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 1: the time being, they're a little ahead of schedule, but

1682
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: you know, I mean that one crash truck, one flat

1683
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: tire on a truck in your back behind schedule. But

1684
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: that's where they're at. There it's going. And I'm telling you,

1685
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: everybody's been talking about that little schedule released video that

1686
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: Josh is in and I made a cameo at the

1687
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: end of it. That place is a beehive over there.

1688
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 1: It's an ant hill. They are there are one hundred

1689
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 1: miles an hour. They are moving and there are guys.

1690
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: There's a couple of hundred guys over there and they

1691
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 1: are all moving. They are busy, and it's kind of

1692
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 1: cool to see. They got the gas pedal on and

1693
01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: and it shows, and.

1694
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 3: I think it will be There's obviously so much that

1695
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 3: needs to be built inside and ready to go by

1696
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:08,719
Speaker 3: August twenty twenty six that I think sometime next year

1697
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 3: it'll almost look like it's done. But oh hey, the

1698
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 3: next nine months we're going to be working on the

1699
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 3: in side of it.

1700
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 1: But also fast and I heard some also too. Right now,

1701
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 1: there's like four hundred guys over there working. When they

1702
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 1: get it enclosed and stuff, it goes to like twelve

1703
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,600
Speaker 1: hundred people. Because you can have people. You can have

1704
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: a ton of hundreds of people doing the exact same thing,

1705
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:33,600
Speaker 1: putting in TVs, lay in trial, sure, painting, whatever, you know,

1706
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:36,680
Speaker 1: putting signs, the whole thing, the finish work. You can

1707
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 1: have a thousand people and they're doing the exact same job,

1708
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 1: and it goes it's fast.

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01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 3: It's just been exciting, Like I said, like every couple

1710
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 3: of weeks or month or so that I'm in to

1711
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 3: see the progress to go from the pit during the

1712
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 3: playoffs to where it is today.

1713
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 2: You can almost see like the lower bowl down and you.

1714
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 1: Can see it down in there. And I'll say this too,

1715
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 1: what really struck me when I was down there doing

1716
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 1: that little video. Sure it's intimate. I mean, you are

1717
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 1: on top of the fields. It feels like somebody's at

1718
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 1: that field. The encircling area where the field's going to

1719
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 1: be in the sidelines, and it's gonna feel like you

1720
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 1: can reach across and shake. I mean, it's gonna feel

1721
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: like you're living like your backyard. It's gonna be tiny,

1722
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 1: and that's vital. We've heard so much about that this.

1723
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 3: Obviously, the stadium is being built with Bills fans in mind,

1724
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 3: Buffalo in mine.

1725
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 2: It's going to be very locally feeling.

1726
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 3: I think it's important to make that stadium as daunting

1727
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 3: of a task for an opposing team, opposing quarterback to

1728
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 3: play in because of how amazing the atmosphere that the

1729
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,719
Speaker 3: Bills Mafia have created during the time for the last

1730
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 3: forty years in the stadium.

1731
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 1: It's amazing, I really do because you look at where

1732
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 1: the field is and the back wall of the.

1733
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 2: Pit not that far away.

1734
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 1: It's not that far away now. There's all kinds of

1735
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,560
Speaker 1: infrastructure underneath the stands and you can see all of

1736
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 1: that that's taking shape and all that, but it just

1737
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 1: feels like you're all right there in the middle of it.

1738
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the things that's happened

1739
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 1: about this that I've been told about this new stadium

1740
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 1: and the concept behind it, Like the high Mark is

1741
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: kind of like this big salad bowl, you know, it's

1742
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: a big bowl like the old fashion.

1743
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 2: That's how they use I'll be built.

1744
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like a shot glass okay. I mean

1745
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,640
Speaker 1: you're like everybody's right there, like you're all you know,

1746
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 1: you even be playing catch from the upper deck crossing

1747
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 1: the way. I mean, it looks tiny.

1748
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 3: Even three hundred four hundred level is not going to

1749
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 3: be you're as far away as you are now. It's

1750
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 3: just difference in architect I mean, I can't believe we're

1751
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,719
Speaker 3: talking about the architecture because I'm certainly not an expert

1752
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 3: in that, but just thinking about it, the architecture in

1753
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 3: the in the sixties and seventies. That's how almost every

1754
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 3: stadium that was built in that era was constructed.

1755
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 2: Now, there's a lot of different ways.

1756
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 1: To do out there.

1757
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 3: You can really keep the noise in having it be

1758
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 3: more like a shot glass as compared like you said

1759
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 3: to a sale.

1760
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna take a break. But it's also it's

1761
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 1: just a different era now. These things they were built

1762
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 1: like old bleachers and concrete. They were industrial though at

1763
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 1: now they're built more like hotel lobbies. Yeah, you know

1764
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 1: what I mean. The walkways and it's very they're great

1765
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: die end. Yeah, it's very nice. So hopefully we're gonna

1766
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: get a chance of you're gonna see it when you

1767
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: come to the games this fall.

1768
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 2: You'll surried.

1769
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 1: It's gonna look vastly different. So we've got that going forward,

1770
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. We'll be back to finish

1771
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: things off. Steve Tasker, Christoph pass On One Bill's Life,

1772
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live. As we wrap this up,

1773
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 1: it was announced at the league meetings today that Pittsburgh's

1774
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:41,719
Speaker 1: gonna get the draft.

1775
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 4: Uh.

1776
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:44,719
Speaker 1: They already started talking about. They put a bid together

1777
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 1: and Downtown's can be right outside their stadium on a

1778
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 1: big park there right at the at the convergence of

1779
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 1: the Monongavila of the Ohio.

1780
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 3: There's the Pirate Stadium and the Steelers Stadium kind of right.

1781
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 1: There's a lot of room for people. Yeah, a lot

1782
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 1: of people. It's gonna be nice. It was a twenty

1783
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 1: six I think twenty twenty six the Green Bay. Next

1784
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: they get it and once again we'll put the finishing

1785
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 1: touch on. They tested this optical tracking technology about the

1786
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,679
Speaker 1: first down marker. They tested it last year in four

1787
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: stadiums and then also in the Super Bowl, but they.

1788
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 2: Didn't show it to us. They didn't use it in

1789
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 2: the game, but they tested it.

1790
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 1: Behind the scenes that it was behind our backs.

1791
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:21,679
Speaker 2: Oh sneaky NFL.

1792
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: They're going to do it in all the preseason games

1793
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: this year, so all the stadiums will have a tryout.

1794
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 3: That makes me think that in those tests and in

1795
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, of course, they couldn't get the feedback

1796
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 3: from fans and things like that, they liked how it

1797
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 3: was implemented and how it worked, So maybe that's why

1798
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 3: they're pushing ahead. This is almost the second layer of

1799
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:41,480
Speaker 3: that implement.

1800
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 1: I would have liked to have seen the presentation at

1801
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 1: the ownership say here's what we saw here. Yes, here's

1802
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 1: how we envisioned it working. And you know this, this

1803
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 1: is all about a couple of things. There's a couple

1804
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 1: of simple things. This is about one. It's got to

1805
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 1: look good on TV. And it's got to make the

1806
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,719
Speaker 1: game go faster. They don't want those are the two keys.

1807
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 1: They don't want Grandpa and guys like me trudging these

1808
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 1: chains out there, stretching them tight, and you know, the

1809
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 1: credit card with you Tony, all that stuff. If it

1810
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 1: looks good and it makes the game more streamlined, you

1811
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 1: can bet it'll be implemented.

1812
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 3: And it'll it will help the ratings in the preseason

1813
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 3: because for as much as for someone like me that's

1814
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 3: a draft guy, I like to see all the rookies

1815
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 3: out there, you're calling a lot of the games now,

1816
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 3: fans will say, hey, let's watch this preseason game in

1817
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:24,799
Speaker 3: its ENTIRETYE.

1818
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how it's gonna look because they're gonna

1819
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:28,759
Speaker 1: it's it's about spotting the ball. So if they spot

1820
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 1: the ball right, or if they don't spot the ball right,

1821
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:32,560
Speaker 1: maybe it becomes irrelevant because if you say, yeah, he

1822
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,640
Speaker 1: got the first down. Who cares where they move it

1823
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:36,639
Speaker 1: up half a yard if you get a first down.

1824
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, because then.

1825
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 1: The chain's going to be set right where you know

1826
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 1: it is either way. So we'll see Chris. Thanks for

1827
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 1: coming in. Today's perfect Thanks for coming in doing all

1828
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:45,759
Speaker 1: that research about the quarterbacks.

1829
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 3: And we didn't lose power during this lightning story here

1830
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 3: something bad here at the stadium. But yes, Josh Allen

1831
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,759
Speaker 3: age twenty eight, he'll be totally fine. Curtis Samuel probably

1832
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 3: in for his best season that we've seen him in

1833
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 3: the NFL.

1834
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,679
Speaker 1: Well, we'll certainly hope. So we'll see Steve Tasker, Christal Passion.

1835
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,679
Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow one. Rich Sumini from the Jets,

1836
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 1: gonna be on with us tomorrow. Thanks for being with us,

1837
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 1: one Bills Live. We'll talk to you tomorrow at one