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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined by the executive director of Civil
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Speaker 1: Has been a civil rights lawyer, a public defender, named
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Speaker 1: of several books, the incredibly compelling Usual Cruelty, which we've
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Speaker 1: not most important. But please welcome back to the show.
Speaker 1: The brilliant, the talented Alec Carricazana. What's up about you?
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for being here. And the reason we're
Speaker 1: talking like auctioneers is because we only have you for
Speaker 1: forty five minutes, so we wanted to get right into it.
Speaker 3: You' all found great Thank you man, revved up many
Speaker 3: just getting through it, just getting through it.
Speaker 1: Just some people from White House, and they they've got
Speaker 1: some Daddy's little helpers is what they call him. No,
Speaker 1: it's amazing to have you back. You know, we usually
Speaker 1: do search history underrated, overrated, but I think I think
Speaker 1: we can just skip that unless there's something you desperately
Speaker 1: want to get off your chest that you think is
Speaker 1: overrated or underrated or something from your search history.
Speaker 2: I don't have anything I'm dying to tell everybody. I
Speaker 2: don't think.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, good, then we'll ask the questions.
Speaker 1: We'll ask the questions here, Alec. All right, So last
Speaker 1: time we checked in with you, there was this is
Speaker 1: a little over a year ago, or maybe actually a
Speaker 1: little less than a year ago, but there was a
Speaker 1: lot of talk in the mainstream media still about how
Speaker 1: crime was up because everyone defunded the police. And there's
Speaker 1: been an emerging story that crime has been plummeting, much
Speaker 1: much less popular story with the mainstream media. And I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure there hasn't been like a corresponding like the
Speaker 1: police were never defunded, so like their theory of the
Speaker 1: case seems to have been exposed as bullshit. So presumably
Speaker 1: the mainstream media has been flooded with articles explaining what
Speaker 1: they got wrong and taking a long hard look at
Speaker 1: their methodology. How are you seeing these latest crime statistics
Speaker 1: where crime has gone down.
Speaker 2: I think it's important for us to just take a
Speaker 2: step back and understand that, whether we're talking about last
Speaker 2: year or the year before, the year before that, overall
Speaker 2: levels of police reported crime in this country are near
Speaker 2: historic loves. So even when there was all that frenzy
Speaker 2: about retail theft and shoplifting or car theft or violent
Speaker 2: crime or robberies, you know, we were still at a
Speaker 2: stage in history where all of those things were were
Speaker 2: extraordinarily low relative to you know, what they were, let's
Speaker 2: say in the nineties or or in the early two thousands.
Speaker 2: And it's also important to understand that when you hear
Speaker 2: about crime statistics in the news, it's really only seven
Speaker 2: or so crimes that the police track and report to
Speaker 2: the FBI. And even then most people don't understand that,
Speaker 2: like forty percent of police departments don't even report that
Speaker 2: data to the FBI. So a lot of it is
Speaker 2: just like FBI statistical estimates based on the police reporting
Speaker 2: like a few what they call index crimes. So what
Speaker 2: is left out of crime statistics well, almost all the
Speaker 2: crimes committed by police themselves, almost all the crimes committed
Speaker 2: by and prison guards, almost all white collar crime. Right,
Speaker 2: So while you hear a lot about theft in the
Speaker 2: news and retail theft and shoplifting, what don't the police
Speaker 2: report and what doesn't the FBI report when it's talking
Speaker 2: about crime rates tax evasion or wage theft. You know,
Speaker 2: and wage theft is about fifty billion dollars a year,
Speaker 2: So that right there is three times all of the
Speaker 2: crime that FBI is reporting is property crime combined. And
Speaker 2: so you just have to understand the way the media
Speaker 2: talks about crime stistics is really messed up on like
Speaker 2: a lot of different levels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wage theft and tax evasion being two crimes that
Speaker 1: the general populace, the readership, the intended audience of the
Speaker 1: mainstream media are the victims of Those are the ones
Speaker 1: that get ignored, the ones that that's not breathlessly reported,
Speaker 1: are the ones where Procter and Gamble is, you know,
Speaker 1: is the victim, and that's that that's treated as like
Speaker 1: the more important crime.
Speaker 2: And I think this is really important lesson for people,
Speaker 2: like you can really mislead people by giving them a
Speaker 2: few anecdotes. So, for example, if you have like a
Speaker 2: week of news stories, even if the anecdotes you're giving
Speaker 2: are true, like you report on seven true examples of
Speaker 2: shoplifting from Walgreens every night, you give the people the
Speaker 2: impression that shoplifting is a huge problem it might be
Speaker 2: increasing even, Right. It's kind of like if I compiled
Speaker 2: a video of every shot Michael Jordan missed in his
Speaker 2: career and put them all together. Yeah, you could create
Speaker 2: the impression that Michael Jordan is a terrible basketball player
Speaker 2: just by taking all of the shots which he actually
Speaker 2: did miss, right, if you don't show the other shots, right,
Speaker 2: And what the news is doing is something very similar.
Speaker 2: It's not showing the public any of the tax evasion
Speaker 2: or any of the wage steps, or any of the
Speaker 2: pollution violations. Right, there's one hundred thousand violations that we
Speaker 2: know about of the Clean Water Act. Every year. It
Speaker 2: causes enormous death, cancer, rotting teeth, children suffering from a
Speaker 2: variety of different preventable illnesses, et cetera. Those are not
Speaker 2: treated as urgent. And so there's this and they're not
Speaker 2: reported on the daily news. And so just through through
Speaker 2: its reporting of anecdote even if those anecdotes are actually
Speaker 2: happening and true, the news can distort our much deeper
Speaker 2: truths about like what kinds of activity is really harmful
Speaker 2: to us? And shoplifting is a good example because tax
Speaker 2: evasion is about a trillion dollars a year, so that's
Speaker 2: you know, sixty times every property crime the FBI reports combined,
Speaker 2: and yet everyone is freaking out of our shoplifting and
Speaker 2: nobody is thinking about tax evasion, right.
Speaker 3: I feel like the shoplifting thing is still like vibrating
Speaker 3: through like my childhood neighborhood. Like there are people who
Speaker 3: like lived in the neighborhood I grow up that are
Speaker 3: still harping about like, well, you know, there's nothing at
Speaker 3: CBS anymore because all the shoplifting, and like we need
Speaker 3: to have like a neighborhood meeting about this. And it's like, dude,
Speaker 3: this is like a two year old conservative take on
Speaker 3: crime that you're like being like, it's it's happening, and
Speaker 3: it's the scores of our community at the moment. But
Speaker 3: like I'm curious for this stuff that you're talking about,
Speaker 3: Like where is there like a centralized place where you
Speaker 3: can see like where like DA's or something are reporting
Speaker 3: things like wage theft or like in a centralized place,
Speaker 3: so I can be like, well, what about this stuff?
Speaker 3: Or is that more just having to be really vigilant
Speaker 3: about what is actually coming out of the courts and
Speaker 3: things like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, one of the big scandals of
Speaker 2: our time is that the agencies who are supposed to
Speaker 2: be investigating a lot of these crimes have been completely decimated. So,
Speaker 2: for example, the federal antitrust regulators have been completely decimated.
Speaker 2: They're far fewer regulators even looking into whether companies are
Speaker 2: doing price fixing and doing all kinds of illegal stuff
Speaker 2: that drives up the costs of goods for consumers, et
Speaker 2: cetera than there were forty years ago. We have fewer
Speaker 2: people investigating that stuff now. And the same is true
Speaker 2: with the so called war on drugs, Right, they shifted
Speaker 2: a huge percent of federal agents who were working on
Speaker 2: things like white collar crime, fraud, corporate fraud, tax of asion,
Speaker 2: et cetera, and they shifted government resources toward the drug war,
Speaker 2: and so there's just fewer people actually even looking for
Speaker 2: the crimes that are committed by wealthy people. And that
Speaker 2: means that unfortunately, a lot of the crimes that are
Speaker 2: happening just like aren't even brought into the legal system
Speaker 2: at all, So they're not being reported by prosecutors, not
Speaker 2: being reported by police at all. And so we rely
Speaker 2: on nonprofit organizations really good investigative journalism. Some times the
Speaker 2: government will will itself investigate in some ways that shed
Speaker 2: some light on some of these things, and you would
Speaker 2: have to cobble it all together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's yeah. I mean you realize too, just how
Speaker 3: much of that is just to kind of emphasize what,
Speaker 3: you know, sort of the status quo wants to even
Speaker 3: define as crime. Well, it's like, well, don't look at
Speaker 3: that stuff because then all these other people get caught
Speaker 3: up in our perception of what criminality is. Absolutely don't
Speaker 3: want to do that. It's to actually just be like, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: it's the shoplifters. It's these kinds of things that are
Speaker 3: big capital ce crime that we need to worry about.
Speaker 3: When yeah, so like everyone's saying these are the ones,
Speaker 3: like these other things are the things that affect the
Speaker 3: everyday person on a much deeper level. Were they locked
Speaker 3: up Old Spice at CBS.
Speaker 1: Also, we're the victims there. I do not want to
Speaker 1: wait fifteen extra seconds to get my old spice deal
Speaker 1: ran out of the plastic case.
Speaker 3: But it embarrassing to say, I want to are using
Speaker 3: old as a victim?
Speaker 1: Anyway, Yeah, oh yeah, we're just gonna pretend you didn't
Speaker 1: say that, because what about as rate? And it's a
Speaker 1: combination of acts and old.
Speaker 3: Spice, I mix it together. It's a home blown.
Speaker 1: The axe is the new, the old spice is the old.
Speaker 1: And that's why I smell great to myself. Not not
Speaker 1: everybody agrees. What is something that you think is underrated?
Speaker 4: Okay, guys, if you must ask, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 4: not enough people are talking about the nineteen ninety four
Speaker 4: film Angels in the Outfield with Danny Glover and Joseph
Speaker 4: Gordon Levitt. Wow, it's just so good and having Christopher
Speaker 4: Lloyd as the wacky angel, Like I just watched it
Speaker 4: on a plane recently, saw my goddamn eyes out. What
Speaker 4: a heart expanding story of hope and upliftment. And then
Speaker 4: when he also surprised adopts JP like the literalist, the
Speaker 4: cutest kid I've ever seen in my life. Couldn't believe it.
Speaker 4: And then also to see like the bit parts of
Speaker 4: the early launching pad careers of Matthew McConaughey, Adrian Brody,
Speaker 4: Tony Danza. No, I mean yeah, they had really small
Speaker 4: parts and it was like yeah, and it was just
Speaker 4: a delight and incredible. Why have we forgotten? Why don't
Speaker 4: we have more sports movies with angels mixed in? Amazing?
Speaker 1: Right? Is the story that like did a team plane
Speaker 1: like go down or something? Why are there's so many
Speaker 1: angels in the outfield for this?
Speaker 4: Okay, this was another shocking thing because like I've had
Speaker 4: a lifelong attraction to Dermot mulroney, which I've just failed
Speaker 4: to mention. He is the dead by dad that causes
Speaker 4: all these issues. And he says to tiny we'll get together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, oh, yeah, he.
Speaker 4: Says, the tiny little Joseph Gordon the child. He says, like.
Speaker 1: Joseph the child, which is.
Speaker 4: He says, he says, you know, if the Angels win,
Speaker 4: then we can be like a family. Again. What a
Speaker 4: horrible thing to get.
Speaker 5: To, yeah or something is No, he's just like angels way.
Speaker 4: Because the Angels were so bad. So it was basically like,
Speaker 4: if the Angels win, then I'll be your daddy in
Speaker 4: so then of course, little baby Joseph Ward love it.
Speaker 4: He's praying, praying, praying, like for the angels to win,
Speaker 4: thinking that it's gonna come true and he's gonna get
Speaker 4: his dad back. So then the angels arrived to make
Speaker 4: them win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they answer little kid prayers if they're like
Speaker 1: sad and pathetic enough.
Speaker 4: But then they got him a different dad. So I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's not I don't know why I associated
Speaker 1: angels with ghosts. Angels aren't ghosts right in a way.
Speaker 4: They are. I don't think you're too far off. They're
Speaker 4: like like incredible beings.
Speaker 1: In City of Angels, was Nicholas Cage an eternal being
Speaker 1: who had never been alive? Or was he like a
Speaker 1: dead guy? Anybody remember we had a real run in
Speaker 1: the nineties of angel movies. Huh yeah, I just.
Speaker 4: Saw this movie again in the last year. Also on plane,
Speaker 4: you know, I you know my passion angel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, angels on planes for you that whenever you're on
Speaker 3: a plane, you're like to get an angel flicking.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm like, I'm probably pretty close to them up here.
Speaker 4: You know, maybe I should.
Speaker 1: Reading the paper.
Speaker 3: Just hold me up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good movie. I loved it. I love
Speaker 4: those I gotta I love those movies.
Speaker 1: Michael, the John Travolta movie, which I don't know anything
Speaker 1: other than what if John Travolta was an angel?
Speaker 6: Though?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I also watched that movie.
Speaker 1: Did you Wow? You really are an freak for the angels.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize how many of these I've watched in
Speaker 4: the last year.
Speaker 3: Did you even see Alita Battle Angel?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: I've never seen that one.
Speaker 1: Is that good?
Speaker 3: No? It's not.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, it's not.
Speaker 3: It's and it barely has nothing to just there was
Speaker 3: like a sort of title of the character.
Speaker 1: Have you watched the Bone Thugs and Harmony Crossroads video lately?
Speaker 4: Not lately? I can't say I have, But I can't
Speaker 4: do it after this podcast. That's no problem. I can
Speaker 4: fire it right up.
Speaker 1: There's a There's an Angel with big old wings, big
Speaker 1: old honkers.
Speaker 4: I do have a recollection of that from my childhood, actually.
Speaker 1: Touched by an Angel. Superducer Justin is pointing out Touched
Speaker 1: by an Angel was a big nineties.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I watched the shit out of that on
Speaker 4: Channel four cable as a child.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: I was like, maybe if I watch them, they'll come
Speaker 4: to my room.
Speaker 1: So were you was that like an obsession of yours
Speaker 1: when you were a child, did you like when you
Speaker 1: were in school, were you like drawing angels and shit?
Speaker 4: I mean, like, no, it's not just angels, and it
Speaker 4: really hasn't stopped, like it's been consistent as every year
Speaker 4: of my life. But I just have a lot of
Speaker 4: interest in like what could possibly be and like God,
Speaker 4: Like I don't know what God is, but like I
Speaker 4: pray a lot, and like I love the idea of angels,
Speaker 4: like I don't know if it's real or whatever. I
Speaker 4: also love like fantasy shit like witches and magic and
Speaker 4: wizards and things like that, even though I'm jock and
Speaker 4: very cool and not nerdy at all. So it's confusing.
Speaker 3: Do you think if you were an angel, like in
Speaker 3: a child made like a sports prayer, like it would
Speaker 3: have to be like volleyball based for that way You're like,
Speaker 3: I got this one. I can handle this one.
Speaker 4: Not at all. Like I don't even feel too large
Speaker 4: off a tie to volleyball, although I love that sport.
Speaker 4: But no, I'm not like volleyball is supreme sport.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm saying as an angel if you're giving
Speaker 3: your expertise, So like, am anybody do baseball up here?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: All right, we got another kid who's praying to the
Speaker 3: family reunites if they can win this beach volleyball tournament.
Speaker 3: Anybody they need a defensive specialist?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Miles, you pose an excellent query. As always,
Speaker 4: I think I would have to go with the child
Speaker 4: who you know needed me most really, But that's just
Speaker 4: sort of the type of heart I have.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that you're humble and highway to any highway takers.
Speaker 1: That so that was that was the eighties. That was
Speaker 1: probably before the show. That was a show where it
Speaker 1: was like, what if the guy you see hitchhiking on
Speaker 1: the highway is actually angel though and it but and
Speaker 1: the guy was Michael Landon, who was a very ansome like, oh.
Speaker 4: Well, might have to check that out.
Speaker 1: Also, yeah, worth worth the shot. What's what's something you
Speaker 1: think is overrated?
Speaker 6: The VIP area?
Speaker 3: Oh, I think tell him where you live, tell him
Speaker 3: how you lived?
Speaker 6: TVK how many times because I've we've been to this,
Speaker 6: You've been doing things like, oh, we have this area
Speaker 6: for you. You guys actually be over there and you'll
Speaker 6: like be at a club or a bar or whatever.
Speaker 6: And as a person who I don't frequent the VIP area,
Speaker 6: I'm not of the lev but but oftentimes people the
Speaker 6: VIP area, they're like, if you want to get in
Speaker 6: and be a part of the party and have fun,
Speaker 6: you have to go out into gen pop.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So it's like people pay these tables to do bottle
Speaker 6: service just to like stand there and not really be
Speaker 6: a part of the party. But if you do decide,
Speaker 6: if they're like, what have you do this for, let's
Speaker 6: be a part of the party, Well then you realized
Speaker 6: you didn't need the VIP area.
Speaker 3: No, what you wanted was a place to sit.
Speaker 6: Which I can understand. But oftentimes if I need to
Speaker 6: get out, just sitting somewhere in these lights and music
Speaker 6: is I will want to have stepped outside for a
Speaker 6: minute anyway, right right right, And that's the greatest VIP
Speaker 6: area of all outside.
Speaker 1: The out of doors God's VIP area.
Speaker 6: Nature Gya Gaya nailed it. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, the VIPs I mean cause it's it's it's
Speaker 3: wild how different like when back when, back when I
Speaker 3: was going to clubs in the early odds, the ship
Speaker 3: was there was maybe only a couple VIP tables, and
Speaker 3: it was mostly still a like a place you got
Speaker 3: fucking gnarly, sweaty dancing and ship and then you left.
Speaker 3: And it's interesting to see how over time, like the
Speaker 3: flex culture has taken over even the like spaces that
Speaker 3: were just meant to get like sweaty and dancing, where
Speaker 3: it's like now it's like forty percent fucking tables or
Speaker 3: fifty percent tables and no one dances and it's just
Speaker 3: to be seen. And that's like where I feel like
Speaker 3: so old.
Speaker 6: I'm like damn, like okay, but like I think about
Speaker 6: this too. It's like in Vegas, right, if you're living
Speaker 6: that VIP life, you probably like, when I go to Vegas,
Speaker 6: I'm there to sort of run them up with the peasants.
Speaker 6: We're all peasants running around freak out. So like I
Speaker 6: want to go to the pool at the Flamingo and
Speaker 6: just people watch while drinking Miami.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just tall in the sphere.
Speaker 6: No, if you're like VIP lifestyle, you're like, oh, we
Speaker 6: got a room and it has its own pool, Well
Speaker 6: that's gonna be the most boring pool in Vegas, right, Yeah,
Speaker 6: ext So what's Yeah, Hey, guy, I worked coming over. Yeah, guy,
Speaker 6: I work with who I flew here with. And now
Speaker 6: it's just me and him in this pool in this room.
Speaker 1: We paid, I got the PB and j over there
Speaker 1: in the in the fridge, in the fridge, and it's
Speaker 1: in fridge actually, so it's still pretty hard, right.
Speaker 6: But like you get a great room, like the room
Speaker 6: has its own pool, and I'm like, yeah, but I'm
Speaker 6: in Vegas. This isn't the pool I want to be.
Speaker 3: Yet, right, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: It gives me syphilis, Yes, I give it right back. Right.
Speaker 3: I want I want someone to say, you didn't open
Speaker 3: your eyes underwater there, did you? And then you go
Speaker 3: why what? What's wrong?
Speaker 1: Oh? I can already see it. Yeah, yeah, No, I
Speaker 1: don't agree. I don't. I don't really do VIP areas
Speaker 1: the times, the very few times that I've encountered, I
Speaker 1: feel like there are two types of VIP areas. They're
Speaker 1: the ones that are like kind of off to the back,
Speaker 1: and then they're the ones that are like in the
Speaker 1: center of everything, feel like right to like the look
Speaker 1: at me, the look at me VIP area that feels
Speaker 1: like so desperate and thirsty to be in that area,
Speaker 1: like that's embarrassing to be in a VIP area that's
Speaker 1: like in the middle of the whole thing. Yeah, yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck are we doing?
Speaker 6: Can I sign a question you guys really quick?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Have you seen any like lately in your life or
Speaker 6: just on the internet, Like when they do bottle service
Speaker 6: at a club that's like what they're riding on the
Speaker 6: signs as they walk out, like holding you know, sometimes
Speaker 6: it just says like happy birthday again or whatever. But
Speaker 6: I've seen recently where they're so like left field and hilarious,
Speaker 6: Like they're walking out and the sign says, she's not
Speaker 6: going to text you back. They're walking out and the
Speaker 6: sign says it's just paper right like they're they're they've
Speaker 6: become like meme boards and they're hilarious. And I always
Speaker 6: wonder does the club do that or is that what
Speaker 6: the person requested when they ordered the bottle? Because I
Speaker 6: don't ordered a bottle. I have no idea how this works.
Speaker 1: I would Hey, I'm gonna pay you one thousand dollars
Speaker 1: for a single bottle of booze? Could you roast me?
Speaker 1: Well you bring it out to me. Could you just
Speaker 1: absolutely rinse me in front of all these people. I'm
Speaker 1: so desperate to impressed. I'm sorry, that's so cool.
Speaker 3: This So the smearkoff is one thousand dollars for a
Speaker 3: seven to fifty mil Yeah, yeah, okay, I guess I'll
Speaker 3: take that. Then that's the cheapest one.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Do we get orange juice.
Speaker 3: With that for seventy eight bucks?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was in Japan recently for a friend's wedding and
Speaker 3: at the at the end of their wedding, like it
Speaker 3: was very low key, like a just super chill wedding,
Speaker 3: like it wasn't a huge affair, and afterwards the bride
Speaker 3: and groom were like, we kind of want to go dancing.
Speaker 3: So like me and a few of our other friends,
Speaker 3: we'd like we didn't get them a gift because they're like,
Speaker 3: you guys traveled all the way here, please don't get
Speaker 3: us gifts. But we're like old and we went to
Speaker 3: a club and we're like I kind of need to
Speaker 3: sit down, dude, Like I'm not young enough to want
Speaker 3: to be up in it right now, Like I'd rather
Speaker 3: just sit off to the side. Luckily, bottles in like
Speaker 3: Japan were not expensive, so like between the six of us,
Speaker 3: we're like all right, we all put in like eighty bucks,
Speaker 3: like we can all sit down, and we did that,
Speaker 3: and the funny part was they go, oh, where you
Speaker 3: guys from America? So when the bottle came out, they
Speaker 3: had like sparklers and they were just waving American flags
Speaker 3: and shit, and I was like, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: we don't got to do all that. But then like
Speaker 3: the people next to us are like Australia. Then they
Speaker 3: brought an Australian flag out and they're like, you're making
Speaker 3: it rain napkins and shit. Like it was just very
Speaker 3: then the sparklers, and at that point I was like,
Speaker 3: see this is why I'm I'm the way home body
Speaker 3: when it comes to.
Speaker 1: It, Draco any liquid as if it has a sparkler
Speaker 1: and an American flag, And it got to yeah, the
Speaker 1: only way I can wet my whistle.
Speaker 6: That's how your dad made your lunch.
Speaker 1: That's fine exactly. It goes go back to my childhood.
Speaker 1: All right, let's uh, let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: then we'll get into some news. We'll be right back
Speaker 1: and we're back. We missed you.
Speaker 3: Bye, oh hi, oh Miles? What by fuck you said bye?
Speaker 3: I didn't I thought we were over. He just threw
Speaker 3: me off with the buye Hi.
Speaker 1: Well let's talk. He caing a bye. He didn't speaking
Speaker 1: of bye Joe Biden. That's what That's what you were saying.
Speaker 1: You were just trying to get started on this next story.
Speaker 1: What's he up to this time? Miles been.
Speaker 3: You know, Joe Biden's presidency has been a lot, like recently,
Speaker 3: a lot of one for them being the GOP, and
Speaker 3: one for you, the the left or Democratic base or
Speaker 3: people who thought the world could be a better place.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Biden hasn't really done much to differentiate himself
Speaker 3: from Trump, you know when it comes to immigration, Like
Speaker 3: he left a lot of policies in place from Trump's
Speaker 3: administration and even like altered some of them a bit.
Speaker 3: And then he really pissed off his own supporters by
Speaker 3: appeasing Republicans and cracking down on the number of asylum
Speaker 3: seekers that can enter the country. Well, I guess Biden
Speaker 3: decided that now, or at least on Monday, which was
Speaker 3: the anniversary of the DACA program from Obama, is the
Speaker 3: day he will announce a policy that is the biggest
Speaker 3: push to grant amnesty to undocumented immigrants since Obama's DACA
Speaker 3: program in twenty twelve. So what does it do. It
Speaker 3: essentially gives a path to apply for permanent residents to
Speaker 3: undocumented people and their children that are married to US citizens.
Speaker 3: So basically anyone undocumented spouses step children of US citizens
Speaker 3: can apply. This is around five hundred thousand spouses and
Speaker 3: about fifty thousand of their step children that could be
Speaker 3: eligible for this new program. And these people do have
Speaker 3: the opportunity to apply for permanent residents already by being
Speaker 3: married to an American. But if you've entered the country
Speaker 3: without proper legal permission and stay for over one year,
Speaker 3: you have to leave the US and stay abroad for
Speaker 3: at least ten years before you can actually apply for
Speaker 3: permanent residents. So again, this means that families don't have
Speaker 3: have to be broken up despite their immigration status, which
Speaker 3: is a great thing. And to qualify for the program,
Speaker 3: non citizens must as of June seventeenth, have been living
Speaker 3: in the US for at least ten years and have
Speaker 3: been married to a US citizen before that date, and
Speaker 3: the administration they've they estimated that the average time that
Speaker 3: applicants have spent time in the US is twenty three years,
Speaker 3: so This isn't the kind of like immigration bill where
Speaker 3: Republicans can claim that like the borders are open, but
Speaker 3: obviously that will not stop them because nothing is about
Speaker 3: fact and it's just about cranking up the xenophobia before
Speaker 3: the election. So yeah, a bit of good news despite
Speaker 3: the last thing that came out of the administration reguarding immigration.
Speaker 1: But this is so they're like addressing for people who
Speaker 1: are married to somebody who aren't actually like allowed, because
Speaker 1: if you get married to an American, like that doesn't
Speaker 1: automatically make you a US citizen.
Speaker 3: I did, well, you know, you're a whole time. You
Speaker 3: can apply, but if your legal status was not, like
Speaker 3: if you didn't have the proper permission to be in
Speaker 3: the United States, then that would cause people to have
Speaker 3: to exit the country for ten years.
Speaker 1: Because this is so crazy, Like I thought, I thought
Speaker 1: it was gonna be like, Okay, go back and then
Speaker 1: come back and you're good.
Speaker 3: But no, yeah, you're you're good.
Speaker 1: You just need to leave the country for ten years.
Speaker 4: TV shows, like every TV show is like, oh, you
Speaker 4: murder for a green card?
Speaker 3: Yeah right, but you could do that if you can't.
Speaker 3: Let's say you had a visa to come in and
Speaker 3: during that time, like you were actually allowed to be
Speaker 3: in the United States and here legally here in the US.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what is exactly the ninety way visa that
Speaker 1: allows you to date like mad and hopefully find a spell.
Speaker 3: And then from there you're usually like in a very
Speaker 3: long process to get you know, your Green card or
Speaker 3: permanent residence status and things like that. But this will
Speaker 3: allow people to work and do other thing, so it's
Speaker 3: you know, it's not as disruptive, and a lot of
Speaker 3: people wouldn't go through to apply for permanent residents because
Speaker 3: they would have to leave for ten years. I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: I have fucking kids, and shit, I can't do that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, this is years is so little wits
Speaker 3: tiny small victories and also helps there's also some streamlining
Speaker 3: of the laws for people in the DACA program. But yeah,
Speaker 3: this was a I'm surprised that the front page of
Speaker 3: the Drudge Report did not have them screaming about this
Speaker 3: new sort of program as it relates to immigration from
Speaker 3: the Biden.
Speaker 1: They had the fucking Boston Celtics Championship and it's like, oh, okay, man, I.
Speaker 4: Was so excited to come on here. The day I
Speaker 4: say the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1: Of course Boston Celtics get a front page drudge report.
Speaker 3: It's a win for US Bruins, you know, because of
Speaker 3: Drew Holiday.
Speaker 1: But god, I don't even know why I hate the
Speaker 1: Celtics at this point, Like I know why player the team,
Speaker 1: something about it.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's anti Lakers inherent, Yeah, that's I mean, that's yeah,
Speaker 3: we have a we have a just a lifelong we
Speaker 3: can't handle it here, yeah, seeing that have one more
Speaker 3: banner than us. So yeah, I've already received plenty of
Speaker 3: dunks on the internet already from my an eighteenth banner.
Speaker 3: But hey, we accept it, and we breathed through it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we breathed through it.
Speaker 1: The last time the Celtics won, the last five Celtics
Speaker 1: championships were followed immediately by at least one following, a
Speaker 1: record that will soon be broken. Exactly. They're not good,
Speaker 1: not with this team, not with these owners, probably not
Speaker 1: with these guys.
Speaker 4: As sad though, like I you know, everyone on Twitter
Speaker 4: was like trending saying it was the worst nbah like
Speaker 4: championship game ever. But there is something I mean, It's
Speaker 4: great for the winning team, but for the viewer, like
Speaker 4: a low Alley is just like not fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and no exactly. The ratings are way down.
Speaker 1: I feel like people generally don't like the Celtics. So
Speaker 1: when the Celtics are doing good, when things are good
Speaker 1: for the Celtics, America is losing Celtics. When America loses,
Speaker 1: just keep that in mind, NBA and the referees. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, guys, help on the thing with the immigrants.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, like, I guess the important
Speaker 1: thing is the numbers, right, They're putting up numbers. Five
Speaker 1: hundred thousand spouses, fifty thousands of their step children could
Speaker 1: be eligible. That's the thing. I just from a political
Speaker 1: perspective again, it feels like a lot of people are
Speaker 1: probably like wait, I thought those people already had like
Speaker 1: access to legal immigration. Anyways, I do want to just
Speaker 1: talk about immigration in general, because there's just all of
Speaker 1: this evidence that immigration is just a win. It's like
Speaker 1: when win, when like wins all the way down for
Speaker 1: America if they would just let it happen. And the
Speaker 1: thing that has been happening is that both sides have
Speaker 1: been you know, bowing to racists and like racist fear.
Speaker 1: But like if you just I don't know why this
Speaker 1: point isn't being made more consistently, Like it seems to
Speaker 1: help all the things that like conservatives claim to care about,
Speaker 1: like the economy, like that, it's it's not just that
Speaker 1: the US can handle more immigrants. We desperately need more immigrants,
Speaker 1: like the it's the thing that drives the US economy.
Speaker 1: Like anytime the US has like an uptick in economic success,
Speaker 1: it's usually because immigration is up. Right, Like the right
Speaker 1: is always like so scared about like population growth and like, well,
Speaker 1: like the birth rate's going down, so we're fucked. And
Speaker 1: it's like, well, actually not if you just allow people
Speaker 1: to immigrate, like like yeah.
Speaker 3: We're not fucked because the birth rate is going down.
Speaker 4: We're the birth rate going down.
Speaker 1: It poses economic challenges that they really want to emphasize
Speaker 1: and be like where fucked you guys? This is no,
Speaker 1: this is bad.
Speaker 3: News because make it better.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: And also a lot of billionaires are like we need
Speaker 3: more people, like it's a crisis, like Elon Musk and.
Speaker 7: Like that's why you have said me yeahsed, He's like
Speaker 7: if we had more people born, we could have more
Speaker 7: Mozarts and more Einstein's and things like that.
Speaker 3: But the thing that they failed to like really acknowledge
Speaker 3: is like you need a level of stability for people
Speaker 3: to become Mozarts or Einstein's and if.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you don't even have enough days in the
Speaker 4: week to go visit all your kids.
Speaker 1: So and by the way, the last generation of billionaires
Speaker 1: they were freaking out because the population was growing too much.
Speaker 1: So like they just they just always want to have
Speaker 1: a thing to freak out about that allows them to
Speaker 1: speculate about getting rid of huge swaths of people or
Speaker 1: everybody fucking them in this case. Right, But just like
Speaker 1: putting aside the moral responsibility the country has for safely
Speaker 1: welcoming migrants into the country, like the so the nonpartisan
Speaker 1: Congressional Budget Office projected a smaller deficit and national debt
Speaker 1: than last year because of an unprecedented spike, like not
Speaker 1: unprecedent but like just normal pre pandemic levels of immigration.
Speaker 1: Like it's the thing that is allowing the US economy
Speaker 1: to bounce back, is immigration going back to pre pandemic levels.
Speaker 3: But if there's immigrants, my wages go down.
Speaker 1: No that your wages actually go up, Like that's the
Speaker 1: other Yeah, it's good for like that's the there's just
Speaker 1: so many details of this argument that we've been hearing
Speaker 1: for fucking decades that just like aren't true, and like
Speaker 1: the mainstream media has just been allowing, like Fox News
Speaker 1: to say them and not being like, actually, no, it's
Speaker 1: the opposite of that. The immigrants boot. So there's a
Speaker 1: study that showed immigrants boost the economy by sparking innovation,
Speaker 1: driving up wages, driving up wages like across the board,
Speaker 1: as well as appealing to foreign investors opening long term
Speaker 1: export opportunities. So it's like all the shit that the
Speaker 1: mainstream media loves to talk about, Like you think about
Speaker 1: your country as an investment, it's like all that stuff
Speaker 1: immigration like drives that is like the best thing for that.
Speaker 1: There's this one article that notes that the so called
Speaker 1: immigration surplus boosts the GDP and raises incomes for non immigrants.
Speaker 1: And if you're wondering what left wing rag printed that story,
Speaker 1: it's the goddamn George W. Bush Institute.
Speaker 4: I didn't even know that.
Speaker 1: Oh, Blair, you must. I've got some more articles I
Speaker 1: have to share with you there, Yes.
Speaker 4: Please do thank you.
Speaker 3: Painting workshops, yeah, yes, how to draw an apple tree?
Speaker 4: Oh and there's like elderly art galleries and stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and good studies on immigration.
Speaker 4: Wow, beautiful, so well rounded.
Speaker 1: He's yeah, a true renaissance man dynamic. He can both
Speaker 1: lead directly to the deaths of all the soldiers and
Speaker 1: do a like c plus job of painting them after
Speaker 1: they died. He's got all the bases covered. The US
Speaker 1: Department of Health and Human Services published a groundbreaking report
Speaker 1: which concluded that refugees and assi les had a positive
Speaker 1: net fiscal impact on the US government over a fifteen
Speaker 1: year period, totally one hundred and twenty three point eight
Speaker 1: billion dollars. Again, like, I think it's weird to like
Speaker 1: quantify people human lives and like the need to do
Speaker 1: the morally correct thing in dollar figures. But it is
Speaker 1: the like the main stream, like supposedly left leaning media
Speaker 1: is allowing. It is just like leaving all this shit
Speaker 1: on the table that they love talking about or even.
Speaker 3: Like perspective, right, because there's always like this handring about
Speaker 3: like I mean, you know, because many people are sort
Speaker 3: of bought into this idea. It's like we're letting too
Speaker 3: many people into the country. But if you actually add
Speaker 3: some context to that, we're like really low on the
Speaker 3: list of developed nations that are actually, like the amount
Speaker 3: of people that are entering the United States as immigrants
Speaker 3: is completely different than you know.
Speaker 1: We're between forty and forty one on the legal immigration
Speaker 1: list and like thirty fifth on overall immigration, so right, yeah,
Speaker 1: like behind.
Speaker 3: Like in terms of per capita, per capita.
Speaker 1: Per capita immigration.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it feels like the main issue is that
Speaker 1: because of racist fear and these tropes that like immigration's
Speaker 1: bad for the economy and like bad for just the
Speaker 1: country in general. Safety safety, Oh yeah, and by the way, safety,
Speaker 1: first generation immigrants are the least likely people to commit crimes,
Speaker 1: Like across the board, they are, Like this is a
Speaker 1: thing that's obviously raised repeatedly by the right wing when
Speaker 1: it comes to immigration. Immigrants are far less likely to
Speaker 1: commit crimes than people born here in any demographic, just
Speaker 1: across the board. A new Stanford white patriots are even
Speaker 1: white patriots. Stanford study found immigrants are less likely to
Speaker 1: be incarcerated for a crime the native born white Americans.
Speaker 1: And this has been true since the eighties, and by
Speaker 1: that I mean the eighteen eighties. It's just straight up
Speaker 1: always been true that immigrant has come, they do great work,
Speaker 1: they pay, like they pay into like Social Security. There's
Speaker 1: like all this money coming in. They you know, they
Speaker 1: pay taxes, they don't commit crimes all like just we
Speaker 1: have massive troves of data that say that, like this
Speaker 1: is the best thing that the US has going for
Speaker 1: it is that people want to come here, and when
Speaker 1: they do, they do great work essentially, and they don't
Speaker 1: commit crimes. Basically the opposite of all the bullshit that
Speaker 1: it dominates mainstream media accounts of immigration. But because of
Speaker 1: racism and white supremacy, they like it becomes a political issue,
Speaker 1: and then they don't fund this like intake systems, the
Speaker 1: systems for like bringing these people in and safely like
Speaker 1: integrating them into the society. And so now you need
Speaker 1: to be seeking asylum, you need to be like fleeing
Speaker 1: something terrifying, and then they don't fund that and they
Speaker 1: don't have the necessary infrastructure to like help those people in,
Speaker 1: and so you have these areas that are just like
Speaker 1: overwhelmed with people. But it's not because there are too
Speaker 1: many people. Again, Miles, like you said, we are low
Speaker 1: on the list of per capita immigration. It's it's not
Speaker 1: that we had there are too many people for the
Speaker 1: US to handle. It's just the US is hit choosing
Speaker 1: not to handle the people because of racism.
Speaker 3: Well, and also like we're constantly meant to think that
Speaker 3: we're living in this like fucked up zero sum game too,
Speaker 3: where it's like there's just no there's nothing, there's just
Speaker 3: not like we can't handle anything. If that happens, then
Speaker 3: you lose something. Like That's always how so many things
Speaker 3: are framed, Like when we're trying to progress societally, it's like, well,
Speaker 3: if those people do better, then you're going to lose something.
Speaker 3: It's like always like sort of the default context that
Speaker 3: we're operating in or how these things are presented. But yeah,
Speaker 3: like you say, all these charts make it look like
Speaker 3: line go up, right.
Speaker 1: All the charts, all those charts that y'all seem to
Speaker 1: love is line go up and does not seem to
Speaker 1: matter in this case. You seem to be very selective
Speaker 1: of when you care about line go up. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: it really I feel like a lot of it is
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I think their music's weird, man, Like
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like their music, you know, like
Speaker 1: the ship that the same fear that like old people
Speaker 1: have of young people. I feel like it's just that
Speaker 1: it's like they're different, and so I don't I don't
Speaker 1: want it in my country, Like I don't want to
Speaker 1: be replaced by that.
Speaker 3: And it's just mm hmmm. It's like, well, you're going
Speaker 3: to be replaced either way, because you're going to be
Speaker 3: replaced and the thing that you're working demographically or because
Speaker 3: of your existence. But that's inevitable. So let's embrace the
Speaker 3: thing that helps people. And also, like I think that's
Speaker 3: the other part too, Like we were talking about this
Speaker 3: with Alec Krri Cottennis is like there's so many like
Speaker 3: so much of the reason people end up having to
Speaker 3: flee their countries typically intersects with US imperialism at some point. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's like yeah, maybe, I mean, look, we.
Speaker 1: Could have a great perpetual machine where we export imperialism,
Speaker 1: make their countries unlivable and then take them in if
Speaker 1: we were just if we just embrace it, you know,
Speaker 1: and then we would.
Speaker 3: The Olympics at every competition.
Speaker 1: Get really good at soccer. Finally, you know.
Speaker 3: Oh, we run the way, We're on our way, We're
Speaker 3: on our way.
Speaker 1: Are we about to get our ass kicked in the
Speaker 1: Olympics or I feel.
Speaker 3: Like Copa America, Copa America, that's the that's that's the
Speaker 3: next tournament.
Speaker 1: But no, they're doing all right because.
Speaker 3: Precisely that because it's like it's you know, servicemen abroad,
Speaker 3: and also because of like people who come from countries
Speaker 3: with strong soccer cultures are making sure they look for
Speaker 3: even even the American sports argument immigration.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a lot of big We got a
Speaker 4: lot of big, big people in our country too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have I think compared.
Speaker 3: To others, right, do we have the I feel like
Speaker 3: Americans are how what do you see, like which country
Speaker 3: is the biggest bodies?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like we got a lot of antibiotics in our
Speaker 4: food and ship like that growth hormones, don't you think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see, maybe.
Speaker 4: Not resonant for soccer, but for other sports, you know.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean I still need to be a tally.
Speaker 4: For soccer, you got to be like a little quickie.
Speaker 3: You gotta be quick man. So about that lateral speed,
Speaker 3: fast twitch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dutch people are the tallest in the world.
Speaker 3: You're the tallest.
Speaker 4: Why are they so tall over there?
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, but we get we got
Speaker 1: the body mask we have to be top in the
Speaker 1: body mass.
Speaker 3: That Pacific Pacific Islanders too, Yes, let's go.
Speaker 4: Also yeah, and also we got like a lot of
Speaker 4: like protein culture I.
Speaker 3: Feel here, yeah, yeah, at the expense of our health declining.
Speaker 3: Expected life expectancy dropped for the second year in a row.
Speaker 4: Is that true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's like it's that's like a historic it's
Speaker 3: never happened before too. Straight.
Speaker 4: My grandma and great Antie just died at like ninety
Speaker 4: eight and ninety seven, and then I just went to
Speaker 4: my other great aunties one hundredth year birthday, and then
Speaker 4: I think these people were like smoking and drinking and
Speaker 4: stuff like I don't know what makes sense.
Speaker 3: Fully, I wonder how much of it too, is like
Speaker 3: because I think about that with like my mom's mom
Speaker 3: in Japan, she lived to be one hundred and one,
Speaker 3: and it's like she didn't start eats. She didn't start
Speaker 3: eating like processed food until like the seventies, so a
Speaker 3: huge majority of her life is like I was growing
Speaker 3: food or like eating food we made by hand, whereas
Speaker 3: now I need my two cans of pringles.
Speaker 4: I know, I know, it's very sad we've gone so
Speaker 4: far away. I feel like Japan. Is Japan one of
Speaker 4: like the what are they called those places, like the.
Speaker 1: Blue blue blue zone, Yeah.
Speaker 4: The blue zone.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean it definitely has like some of
Speaker 3: the highest life expectancy.
Speaker 1: I used to yeah, by the way, not sure. Cheese
Speaker 1: Doritos introduced them the seventies, nineteen seventy two.
Speaker 4: So Jack, you're sick and you need God.
Speaker 1: And that's not I wasn't reading that off the internet.
Speaker 1: I was reading that off the tattoo that I have
Speaker 1: on the inside of my arm.
Speaker 6: Very nice.
Speaker 3: Hong Kong, Macau and Japan are the top.
Speaker 1: Three the the longest, then Switzerland, Singapore, Italy Blair.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go I had crazy pollution like that. There
Speaker 4: was a lot of lung cancer there is That not true?
Speaker 3: Their life on average eighty five point eight three years
Speaker 3: for both.
Speaker 4: WHOA, that's high as how.
Speaker 1: Great Hong Kong, I've never heard that. I've always heard
Speaker 1: Japan that one town in California.
Speaker 3: Due from c I A dot gov because I never got.
Speaker 1: To here's some here's a problem we got to fix guys.
Speaker 3: Well, actually, their latest one says Monaco has the highest
Speaker 3: What the fuck are they doing in Monaco?
Speaker 1: They're just rich as fuck. I know, gambling, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Damn to eat ship like Doiredo's. They're at the gambling
Speaker 4: the craps table a like good for you.
Speaker 1: They're like, I actually got all my macros through these
Speaker 1: special millionaire.
Speaker 3: Really good, really good for your gut biome Monico.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't have.
Speaker 1: What do you?
Speaker 3: What's the adjective for Monica it is?
Speaker 1: I think?
Speaker 3: So wow, Hey monicin Monk one time or Monic canty all.
Speaker 4: Right, monic gas is kind of cool though, that goes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm changing. I'm changing. I'm changing my nationality.
Speaker 3: I'm monogasque.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 4: Didn't know you could do that, Miles.
Speaker 1: That's actually his superpower.
Speaker 3: Kind of problematic when I go to ethnic restaurants, but
Speaker 3: hey yeah.
Speaker 1: Or and by ethnic restaurants, he means the cheesecake factory. Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you, just like ethnicity firecracker chicken. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll be back to hear
Speaker 1: about the cheating husband who blame Apple, And we're back,
Speaker 1: and so RFK Junior did not qualify for the CNN Debates.
Speaker 1: Were guys making a lot of metric? I didn't qualify
Speaker 1: for So CNN's polling threshold of fifteen percent in at
Speaker 1: least four approved national polls. Okay, so he got to three.
Speaker 1: So congratulations. This was the big detail that I feel
Speaker 1: like is being under emphasized in the mainstream media. He
Speaker 1: also fell short of the ballot requirements to secure access
Speaker 1: in enough states to win two hundred and seventy electoral votes.
Speaker 1: So he this person who's like being given this much
Speaker 1: media attention is mathematically eliminated before the election starts.
Speaker 3: Well, that's I think you're focusing on the wrong stuff. Agree,
Speaker 3: because he also hold On ticked. He ticked a couple
Speaker 3: of boxes. Is he at least thirty five years old
Speaker 3: to run for president?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 3: And I was born? Was he born of the United States?
Speaker 1: Yes? He was.
Speaker 3: Did he file for his candidacy with the Federal Commission?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, thank you giving it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Fucking white and vomited backstage.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is all.
Speaker 3: It's all bad.
Speaker 6: I mean, it is true.
Speaker 3: You don't dude, even if you tried, I think the
Speaker 3: most he can get to like one sixty something, that's wild.
Speaker 1: So it's all just to prove a high minded point,
Speaker 1: like this is what's frustrated, Like at that after the
Speaker 1: two thousand election, after you know, like Bernie made a
Speaker 1: run and then I was like, oh, the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: will never allow something like that to happen. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of us were like, I wonder if there's
Speaker 1: ever a path to a third party candidate, And so
Speaker 1: the fact that he's doing this and is like a
Speaker 1: lot of the arguments he's making are also the arguments
Speaker 1: that I'm like, yeah, no, if if you were trying
Speaker 1: to prove a point other than that presidential candidates should
Speaker 1: do their own medicine and science, like, you know, like,
Speaker 1: if you had an actual point to make, I think
Speaker 1: other than do your own research, I would be like,
Speaker 1: on board, we need it to be easier for there
Speaker 1: to be a third party candidate. But this guy fuckings it's.
Speaker 3: Inspiration, it's inspirational. Survivors can run for president. But the
Speaker 3: thing that I think is also kind of wild too,
Speaker 3: is like, you don't it doesn't This also doesn't preclude
Speaker 3: him from running. It's like, do you even have the
Speaker 3: votes to be president? Nah? All right, man, you can
Speaker 3: keep running? All good? Yeah, nothing bars you from that?
Speaker 3: Would say do you have the votes to stop me?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Perfect dunk guy logic you really do doing a weekly podcast,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, Can you kick my ass
Speaker 1: Chris Rock's Special?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you think about a third Let's think about
Speaker 5: a real third party.
Speaker 6: We're not we are not going to have a third
Speaker 6: party candidate until we've this is sort of a chicken
Speaker 6: and anything, until we've had a third party president, like
Speaker 6: the person we're gonna have a third party, until the
Speaker 6: person who is running in the third party like wins.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean I think more than that, Like
Speaker 3: there actually needs to be more like third party people
Speaker 3: in Congress. That's really the building blocks you need, is
Speaker 3: like you gotta are getting people in Congress first before
Speaker 3: you can't just jump You can't just skip to the
Speaker 3: oval from there. Like yeah, I mean, I think that's
Speaker 3: the trouble that especially on like the left has with
Speaker 3: like the two party system is figuring out what the
Speaker 3: best best path into that is. But the only way
Speaker 3: to start is to actually run people for Congress and
Speaker 3: at least get a foothold there because otherwise, yeah, it's
Speaker 3: going to be very difficult. But I think, like with
Speaker 3: rfk's campaign, the thing is even before all these you
Speaker 3: know numbers that mathematically quote preclude him from winning the presidency.
Speaker 3: Like the campaign was just fucking wobbly as shit, like
Speaker 3: they were not making they weren't raising any money. He
Speaker 3: brought in that tech person Nicole Shanahan to be his
Speaker 3: vice president to put her own money in. It wasn't enough.
Speaker 3: Like the biggest person bankrolling this is like a Trump donor.
Speaker 3: He was even doing stuff. He's like, hey, man, if
Speaker 3: you fucking donate whatever donations you can get, I'll give
Speaker 3: you fifteen per of whatever you gave to me. Let's
Speaker 3: just split it fifteen eighty five And wait what Yes,
Speaker 3: he was trying to again to bring the sharks into it,
Speaker 3: chum the waters by promising a fifteen percent return on
Speaker 3: whatever you helped fundraise.
Speaker 1: Dark money goes in the water, You go in the water, exactly,
Speaker 1: it's in the water exactly.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's just all like there's another thing
Speaker 3: they did. It was like there was you could do
Speaker 3: like a luxury sunset sailing adventure, Like he tried to
Speaker 3: do raffles and stuff selling off my language. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean water is that in like hyanasport? Like is he
Speaker 3: doing the is he trading in on the Kennedy magic?
Speaker 6: What do we maybe, Yeah, we're on a campaign like
Speaker 6: a school silent.
Speaker 3: Auction exactly, that's what he's doing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, or yeah, or I guess you can.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It turns out it's like, hey, does your.
Speaker 3: Dad still work in the garage door business? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You think you could like donate a new garage door
Speaker 1: and I could put that in the raw for people.
Speaker 6: Free estimate. We could do a free estimate. Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: We'll take that. This thing is not running on anything
Speaker 3: except my brain warms.
Speaker 1: The other thing that he's getting ridiculed for lately is
Speaker 1: claiming that the head of NPR is a CIA agent.
Speaker 1: This is another way he pisses me off because some
Speaker 1: of his conspiracy theories are good. I like the conspiracy
Speaker 1: theory that the head of NPR is the CIA agent. Personally,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know it to be true. I
Speaker 1: haven't done my own research into this one, but there
Speaker 1: is a history of CIA involvement in American media. I
Speaker 1: doubt the head of NPR is a CIA agent. But
Speaker 1: and then he's also getting made fun of for man,
Speaker 1: he's so close. If his whole thing wasn't just fuck
Speaker 1: science and medicine, I'd be a big fan. Because this
Speaker 1: other thing is like he's he's a weird bird person.
Speaker 1: He's like trying to train ravens in his yard with
Speaker 1: like scraps of meat, which got the bird. He has
Speaker 1: a pet emu that is like constantly attacking Cheryl Hines.
Speaker 6: So he's in his own version of the staircase.
Speaker 1: Yes exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if Cheryl ends up with like a weird what
Speaker 3: he calls raven injury, then we'll know, Yeah, absolutely what happened.
Speaker 6: He could tell by the scratch marks.
Speaker 1: It was definitely a raven dude. And finally Grimace is back.
Speaker 6: Grimace grims left.
Speaker 1: Grimace is like the Kennedys and that we are just
Speaker 1: dying for any way to get him into the zeitgeist.
Speaker 1: Just give us anything. So in this case, Grimace is
Speaker 1: a baseball sensation. So last year it was he put
Speaker 1: out a milkshake that was made of his calm. We
Speaker 1: pointed that out on our show a lot of.
Speaker 6: People a year ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, off it.
Speaker 1: Then you know McDonald's profited off of it. Was almost
Speaker 1: like we were c i A plants who had been
Speaker 1: put there to make that joke.
Speaker 3: To all agent Gray and O'Brien, you got to get
Speaker 3: people to think this Grimace smoke shake is his come.
Speaker 1: This is so trust is for national securities, not.
Speaker 3: Really just just selling me think interesting to see where
Speaker 3: it goes.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, this is like the winds of
Speaker 1: change that like create a meme, a bunch of memes
Speaker 1: about the Grimmat milkshake. All right, So the Mets are
Speaker 1: having all I know about the Mets is heading into
Speaker 1: the season. Their fans are like, but this is like
Speaker 1: it's a literal super team, Like we have paid all
Speaker 1: the best players in Major League Baseball to play for
Speaker 1: the Mets. How could it go wrong? And then the
Speaker 1: next time I hear about them, they are having a
Speaker 1: like disastrous season, Like that's those are the two times.
Speaker 1: Because I don't really like pay that much attention to baseball,
Speaker 1: so it's like those stories pop up every one. So
Speaker 1: that happened again this year. They have the highest parle
Speaker 1: three hundred and eight million dollars. Started the season thirty nine,
Speaker 1: twenty nine, and thirty seven, and then a little something happened.
Speaker 1: They invited Grimace to throw out their first pitch and
Speaker 1: they won that game, and that's it. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: Then they won, then they won seven more. They won
Speaker 1: seven in a row after Grimace throughout the pitch, and
Speaker 1: everybody has been speculating this is Grimace is doing because
Speaker 1: like some of the wins have come with like bizarre
Speaker 1: errors by the opponents. Like, so Grimace, this is magic
Speaker 1: is like malevolent, it's like fucking people up, like it's
Speaker 1: causing other teams to have errors and fall down and
Speaker 1: hurt themselves. So I'm just saying, so they they finally
Speaker 1: the Grimace winning streak came to an end and a
Speaker 1: lost to the Texas Rangers last night.
Speaker 3: But get them back out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they weren't gonna win every game. Grimmas
Speaker 1: can only do so much.
Speaker 3: If I don't like that. I don't like that kind
Speaker 3: of limited thinking. I think we really need I think
Speaker 3: they should lean the fuck into this and hope to
Speaker 3: fucking God this is what's going on, that Grimace is
Speaker 3: the savior of their season. I think that's that makes
Speaker 3: a better Angels than the outfield type movie. Yeah you're
Speaker 3: just talking about that with Blair.
Speaker 6: Grimas should be like their JOBU from Yeah, major.
Speaker 3: League exactly, whatever, their yeah defensive yeah exactly. That always
Speaker 3: blew my mind when I started watching twenty four and like, yeah,
Speaker 3: my like movie conscious, like Mike, yeah, like my, like
Speaker 3: my awareness around Dennis Haysbert's career was like murky, so
Speaker 3: you showed him, Like, dude, that's fucking Serrano from me
Speaker 3: to the president is an American. I thought that guy
Speaker 3: was forwarded so stupid, like just not understanding what a
Speaker 3: fucking movie is, but also what an insult to the
Speaker 3: fucking players, Like it's fucking Grimace man. And I get
Speaker 3: that a lot of it was like self inflicted by
Speaker 3: their opponents, but that's gotta be terrible for morale when
Speaker 3: everyone's like, dude, we gotta fucking pray to our Grimace
Speaker 3: statue tonight because that's what's gonna help you uns.
Speaker 1: All Right, So I've heard it said baseball player is
Speaker 1: not always the smartest and in many cases not Like
Speaker 1: is there a sport of the professional athletes?
Speaker 3: Is there any sport though, where we would say that
Speaker 3: we're like, you know those guys, Yeah, I was really smart.
Speaker 1: Baseball offense or basketball offensive lineman and quarterbacks tend to
Speaker 1: be really have to be really smart, but.
Speaker 6: Us really baseball players are insanely superstitious more than I feel, like, yeah,
Speaker 6: exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: They're super super right, So they're very superstitious. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: I feel like like the the Red Sox had that
Speaker 1: big turnaround around the team motto that they were the idiots.
Speaker 1: I think like they they called themselves the idiots. I
Speaker 1: think in baseball it actually helps to be like proudly
Speaker 1: stupid in some cases, and so I feel like this
Speaker 1: would actually be a good thing for them to rally behind,
Speaker 1: just be like, yeah, great, it's good. Like we we
Speaker 1: now just like Sarah prayers to Grimace before we go
Speaker 1: out there, because yeah, it's it's happening one way or another.
Speaker 1: A player was literally asked how much credit do you
Speaker 1: give to Grimace during the post win interview, Like literally that.
Speaker 6: I hope that straight face that player said all of it.
Speaker 6: We don't give them all the credit.
Speaker 3: And you're always very articulate, but I want you to
Speaker 3: be very thoughtful about this next answer. How much credit
Speaker 3: do you guys get to Grimace for this reason? I mean, hey,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 8: Know about coincidence and so you know, I mean, he
Speaker 8: definitely correlates with us, you know, going on this run,
Speaker 8: and you know, if that's what you want to attribute
Speaker 8: it to then then I'm all for it.
Speaker 3: Whatever it is, let's keep it going. I'm all for it.
Speaker 1: There it is.
Speaker 3: I like that like correlation and causation. He was like,
Speaker 3: keeping the relationship straight even in his answer, I.
Speaker 1: Know correlate, Well, fuck me. Then this guy's knows correlation causes.
Speaker 6: This guy is no, you're right this play. Yeah, whatever
Speaker 6: it is, let's keep it going.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He like he also doesn't want to lean into it.
Speaker 3: He's like because he in his mind, he's like, we
Speaker 3: can't let him know. It's because of Grimace.
Speaker 1: Man, Now, that makes it look so much like he's
Speaker 1: coming like that sucks it up. I'm sorry, who is Grimace? Sorry,
Speaker 1: not the baseball player. I was just looking at a
Speaker 1: picture of Grimace and his mouth just looks it is
Speaker 1: like yeah.
Speaker 6: Plus he's sort of always looking down at his sexual
Speaker 6: partners saying like that, yeah.
Speaker 1: His eyeline match does is you know, could be read
Speaker 1: as pornographic if you are looking to read its lustily.
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