1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast never gets at Chris Wesley references. 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: a room filled with some heroes. Chris Westling to my left, 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: Greg Rose the thought to my right, what is up? Boys? 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: I feel like I get I get most Westling references, 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: but sometimes you know, they don't always land necessarily. That's what. 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: That's what. He's taking a lot of shots first, no 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: shots first, he comes with some heroes. I mean, you 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: should be excited about we're here. We're here. My point 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: is when when west drops like a seventies TV reference, 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: Like if you say something about Alan Alda or something, 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: I'll know where you're coming from. But I'll know also 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: the audience will be like, I don't know what, I'm 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: not not not sure if I follow, well, I have 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: a philosophy about that. It's not I thought. If the 17 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: audience isn't educated, get educated, read a book. Audience, it's 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 1: about Alan Alda. Go read Alan Alda's biography. I've ever 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: mentioned now and all at all. Uh. This is Monday's 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: edition of the show. Mark is in the Wilderness. We 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: already on a social media feed. He's on his off 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: day apparently, um alone taking photos of Los Angeles sidewalks 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: using filters on his iPhone six. Uh so you can 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: figure out what he's doing, uh today on his off day, 25 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: which leaves the three of us and uh, there's Greg 26 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: that's pulled up one of those photos. What is it 27 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: Greg describing for the audience. It's a sidewalk with grass 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: on each side of it, blue sky hashtag art um. So, yes, 29 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: the three of us will talk about the news of 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: the last few days, and um, we're gonna get into 31 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: something Greg wrote last week which I quite enjoyed. I 32 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: liked it so much, Greg. I don't know if you noticed. 33 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: When I was diligently working at um fo am yesterday 34 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: I tweeted out your eight biggest surprises at the off season. 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk about that because I thought was 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: a good kind of refresher of what's gone down the 37 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: last month or so. So we're gonna talk about that. Um. 38 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: And of course we're gonna touch base with TV, who 39 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: did such a great job with the Win West's Toaster 40 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: video cast the first annual, which was a great success. 41 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 1: Chris Westling how are you feeling now? Five Eleven out 42 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: of twelve questions answered correctly. Um, you have the swagger, 43 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: don't you. I feel like I've almost reached my potential. 44 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: If I should have gotten Wesley Walker, I knew that 45 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: in the back of my head. I couldn't remember it, 46 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: but I feel like your Jets hate got to you 47 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: there and you just had blocked out any Jets trivia. 48 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: And I expect five or six out of every six question. 49 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: It sounds like a champion that's ready to take a fall. 50 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: Almost I've reached my potential, someone that's ready to kind 51 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: of start kicking back, you know. Aaron Rodgers kind of 52 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: after his first Super Bowls would call it. And a 53 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: little later in the show, will hit up on some 54 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: tweets that you guys sent in after h checking out 55 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: the game, Win West's toaster and also this past weekend 56 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: the first ever Westlemania Chris westling Uh. The Greg and 57 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: I were both there. We actually brought our young children 58 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: for a bit um separately, you know, we didn't roll 59 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: in like my two dad's style. Uh. And then we 60 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: played some cornhole you use the big green egg. Um. 61 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: Great time has had by all, great party. I had 62 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: a blast, great Sessler day and Mark was in for 63 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: it was nice. How did you like to pull? How 64 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: do you mean rare form? Well, I don't know if 65 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: we need to sa, but he was. He was the 66 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: star of the show. I left too early infortunately once 67 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: once the PG element it got out of town. Sessler 68 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: was the star of the show. Yeah, he was. Mark 69 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: was definitely the star. And and West. I'll tell you 70 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: one thing about West. A great party and the pulled 71 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: pork was delicious. Brought home some from my wife and 72 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: Emily loved it as well as tremendous meat products from West. 73 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: One thing the one that hiccup in the party was 74 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: nobody takes their music more seriously than West. West cultivate 75 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: it to playlist for a party and he sees it through. 76 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know, but I would think 77 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: West that you're one of those guys that you know, 78 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: think out in advance, like what's part of the party 79 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: to put this song on? Like you do? I'm the 80 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: same way, like, well, I take my playlist seriously. So 81 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: when some rando rolls into the party a woman you 82 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: barely know and takes her iPod, takes her iPod out, 83 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: takes yours off and plugs her in and then she's 84 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: and just I kid you not. TV helped me out. 85 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: She was playing this song at one point that would 86 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: be good. She was playing this song I'm I'm throwing 87 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: corn at West's house and Fergie's on. So that led 88 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: to a Rebulton. I did not even know who I 89 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: know who Furgy is. I had no idea who sang 90 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: that song, just that it makes my ears bleed. And 91 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: the general consensus from everyone else at the party was 92 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: get this chick off of the music. And you're right. 93 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: I did spend hours cultivating to playlist. I had a theme. 94 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: I'd don't know if people noticed him, but like you know, 95 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 1: I spent eight years on type. This wasn't American South, 96 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: introducing California to the American South. So I'm talking about 97 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: you've got pulled pork, You've got a little bit of country, 98 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 1: little country. I was enjoying it. Yeah, you've got cornhole, 99 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: all of these southern things. This was early in the 100 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: process in the party too, because I was still with 101 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: my daughter then and I was trying to calm West 102 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: down a little bit about the music. You know, it's 103 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: someone at the West. West had no he had no 104 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: qualms about his anger about the situation. He did not, 105 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: you know, play it easy. I'm this poor young woman. 106 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: Let's well listen. I was most words, I was more 107 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: surtly because several people came to me in hand objections 108 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: to her music taste. Okay, that's what That probably put 109 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: me over the Yeah, I mean listen at all. It 110 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: all played out because West's music returned and you it 111 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: felt like you were in the South but also in 112 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: the West. TV. By the way, thanks for going to 113 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: West's party despite the invite. No you didn't. You didn't 114 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: show up. I missed out on this one. Guys that 115 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: I already feel bad. But Nike sound o West, I 116 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: got you and plug. You know, I'm pretty good a 117 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: house party DJ, so lets just now Less is very 118 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: serious about if you play house music, not only you out, 119 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have whatever that said. You know these, as 120 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: I've learned from Dan, these invites aren't uh right, there 121 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: are privilege, so are you're passing on it? The first 122 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: definitely affect your standing TD. Just think I have a 123 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: holiday party that I throw every year. This year could 124 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: be the year you get an invite. I don't know 125 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: if you come but it's all it's in your hands. 126 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: All right, how about some news TV. Let's do it. 127 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: That's what she said. Well done, the great iconic Michael Scott. 128 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: All right, let's do some news and we'll start with 129 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: the two big news stories on Monday. You know, we 130 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: have these issues regarding um fair competition rules that the 131 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: the NFL was doing some investing gating into and will 132 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: start in Atlanta, where, of course, the Falcons were accused 133 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: of piping in fake crowd noise UH into their game 134 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: home games the last two seasons, and the NFL came 135 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: down hard on the Falcons, find them three d fifty 136 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: thousand dollars and then the franchise will forfeit their fifth 137 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: round selection in the NFL Draft, the NFL announced on Monday, 138 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: and also President Rich McKay will be suspended for at 139 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: least three months from the Competition Committee effect of April one. 140 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: And McKay is one of the figureheads of the Competition Committee. 141 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: So obviously it's not a good look ahead of it. Yeah, 142 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: so it's obviously not a good look when he's somehow involved. 143 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: He wasn't directly involved with us, but since it was 144 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: on his watch, he gets banged for it, So we'll 145 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: start there west is this was this enough punishment for 146 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: what the Falcons did? By the way, there weren't even 147 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: a five hundred team at home last two years. Yeah, 148 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: I think that's plenty stiff. What made my eyebrows arch 149 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: a little bit phrasing Roddy White is in charge of 150 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: the crowd noise at what's going on with this? Yeah, 151 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,119 Speaker 1: there's a different Roddy White, which is different Roddy White. 152 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised if there's 153 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: only two Roddy Whites in all of America and they're 154 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: both or they were employees of the Falcon. I was 155 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: a little confused by the front office. Roddy White is 156 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: no longer with the company either. He wasn't he was 157 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: in the events department. But yes, that that was strange. 158 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: I thought they should be happy with how they got off. 159 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: I know it's not the biggest crime in the world 160 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: to be piping in crowd noise. But Rich McKay is 161 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: the head of the competition committee and his team was 162 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: found to be breaking the rules of competition and they 163 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: suspended him for at least three months. Ultimately what does 164 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: that really mean. You've got to miss one league meeting, 165 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: maybe two, you know, that's a day or two. And 166 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: it sounds like he'll have his job back and in 167 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: the fifth round pick, you know, and I would be 168 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, I would be surprised if they 169 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: the Falcons were the only team that was piping in noise. 170 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: I think this probably happens in a lot of the NBA. 171 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure it happens. Um. I'm sure it happens in 172 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: the NHL. I would it wouldn't be shot try. I 173 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: just don't think it's something that's beyond impossible that other 174 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: teams were doing. Now. I don't think they. I think 175 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: everyone stopped once this went down. But you know, listen, 176 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: Georgia Dome is not exactly a hotbed for fan loudness 177 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: or anything, so I kind of get where they were 178 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: coming from, but it was not worth the risk. That's 179 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: one thing they lost when they lost Michael Vick. When 180 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: I mean, when Michael Vick was there, that place was jumping, 181 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: and Mike Vick was the hero of the town. Ever 182 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: since then, they've they've had a hard time replacing that excitement, 183 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: even though they've had right Matt Ryan. They've had some 184 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: really good teams. Um. And now we moved to Cleveland 185 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: where the other discipline came down. Of course the Browns. Uh, 186 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: their general manager Ray Farmer had been admitted This was 187 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: while an investigation was unfolding about him texting uh down 188 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: to the field during games from the press box. Uh. 189 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:02,479 Speaker 1: He admitted it at the NFL scouting combine Brian Schottenheimer. Um, 190 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: excuse me. Kyle Shanahan left the team after one year 191 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: as offensive coordinator, and there's a lot of speculation that 192 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: is because of this incident. Is a major, major driving force. 193 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: So now the league came down on the Browns and 194 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: general manager Ray Farmers suspended without pay for the first 195 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: four games of the season. The Browns are also fine 196 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: two fifty dollars. And this thing, I think the NFL 197 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: got right because the Browns don't need any other issues. Uh. 198 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: They do not lose the draft picks. So it's really 199 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: a Ray Farmer thing. And then the slight money hit 200 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: relatively speaking, Greg Ray Farmer, it's a big money hit. 201 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: So again it's it's a punishment for him, and I 202 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: think and here the punishment fits the crime, because let's 203 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: be honest, he was texting Shanahan about you know, put 204 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: put Manzellen or whatever. He's putty. You know he's not 205 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: happy with it. It's not something that you feel like 206 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: is changing the complexion of a game or unfairly. But 207 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: it's a rule, so you can punish him. I wish 208 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: we would have gotten the seeing the text. That would 209 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: be if it was like Hoyer, l O L and 210 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: Studden that I would be funny. I don't really care 211 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: about these punishments that much. I mean, whatever the league decides, 212 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: it's fine with me. But losing your GM for September 213 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: isn't really that stifferent. Now someone else is gonna have 214 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: to put the waiver claims together. No, it's not a 215 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: big mind. If they really wanted to hurt the Browns 216 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: and Farmer, you take them out for the draft process. 217 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: But he will, I assume, be suspended without pay, so 218 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: he loses a month to pay, so personally for him 219 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,599 Speaker 1: and his family, you know, that's a big hit. But 220 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: otherwise it doesn't seem like it hurts the Browns much 221 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: at all. And and Mark I saw he emerged from 222 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Wilderness to tweet that he's he thought 223 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: it seemed fair as well. So it's good for the 224 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: Browns that they've dealt enough to have a heavy handed 225 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: league ruling against them. It felt like something it was 226 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: just gonna happen to Cleveland. See it didn't happen anyway. 227 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like I was knocking Mark's 228 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: photos on Instagram. He's a great follow on Instagram. Another 229 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: picture pedal, and it's true he is. He is good 230 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: at the old photus. I got a little skill. The 231 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: praise for Mark, praise for Michael Vick, Greg trying to 232 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: take himself out of multiple holes of this podcast. And 233 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: as we know, when Greg, if he ever gets his 234 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: GM job, he'll just fill his team with suspect character guys. 235 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: So Vic Love is right up his house into the 236 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: team photographer. Speaking of suspect character guys, Rodney Harrison, I 237 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: decided to speak out about the Jets, the former Patriots 238 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: safety who now works for NBC. That feels that unfair. 239 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: He's a great guy as an analyst, and I'm surprised 240 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: that he doesn't have herniated discs in his back from 241 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: carrying all the Patriots water came out and just destroyed 242 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: the Jets after their offseason of spending uh namely and 243 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: focused his his uh his anger or I would say 244 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: his his venom at Geno Smiths Victriol. This is the 245 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: quote from Rodney Harrison, who probably is a great guy actually, 246 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: but you know, just you know, just understand, Rodney, if 247 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: you're listening, which I'm sure you are, I do route 248 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: for the Jets, should throw something out there qualified well, 249 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't care about that. But he's 250 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: he's anti Geno Smith. I haven't exactly heard you've been 251 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: singing Geno Smith's praises. Gys have more similar than you think. 252 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: I know, just back off. The Jets are all of 253 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: a sudden, this is the quote. The Jets are all 254 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: of a sudden on a high thinking that they're gonna 255 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: win the championship. By the way, I don't know anybody 256 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: from the Jets that said that. Uh he told he 257 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: said on NBC Radio. You're not gonna win a championship. 258 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: You're not even gonna make the playoffs because you don't 259 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: have a quarterback. If you go into the season and 260 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: you're expecting Geno Smith to improve, it's not gonna happen. 261 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: He might get a little better, but when times get tough. 262 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: When adversity hits, guess what he's gonna do. He's gonna fold, 263 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: just like the last couple of years. He goes on 264 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: and on. Uh says the Jets are five or six 265 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: win team with Genos Now. I think it was a 266 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: little felt a little patrioty the shots by Roden Harrison. 267 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: I felt it that way. But I'm not saying their 268 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: basils either. I mean, I'm not a Genio Smith fan. 269 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: If anything, Greg, it should be you that has an 270 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: issue with these comments because you believe in Geno I do. 271 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: I think he has a chance to get better, and 272 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: I think they can be better than a five or 273 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: six win team. I don't agree with Rodney really here 274 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: at all. But of all people, you you're kind of 275 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: the same camp. Why improve everything not I improve everything else? 276 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: But hey, we're improved, but we're not we're going nowhere 277 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: with you know said you're rooting on Fitzpatrick already. I'm not. 278 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. I'm rooting on Marcus Mariota still. 279 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: But Uh, that was more than him saying that Jets 280 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: are walking on saying they're gonna win the championship, which 281 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: has not been something that was going on, but he's 282 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: he's not off. I mean, in fact, I think that 283 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: Jets could easily go on the tank if they get 284 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: behind you know, Smith again and be a five or 285 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: six one team, and then you hand it over to 286 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick and he doesn't bring the fitz magic, and 287 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: then you're a bad team. What's your thoughts? From what 288 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: authority does Rodney Harrison speak on this issue. He's not 289 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: a former quarterback, he's not a coach. It's not neither 290 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: we were talking about. But I don't but nobody's nobody's 291 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: writing blog post on my opinions. Well they should be 292 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: what it's a good hat take? I just are you 293 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: taking shots at me at seven am on a Sunday 294 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: on a post that got almost a thousand comments even 295 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: writing this up? What's news old and blocked? Well, I 296 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: just don't care what I mean this to me. I 297 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: filed this under the Joe Namath fran Tarkentin bluster posts. 298 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't really care what Rodney Harrison says about I 299 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: do get a kick out of Harrison, who just you'll 300 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ever spoken out against the Patriots, 301 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: even on the Sunday at Football telecast it's I think 302 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: it's even a little bit of a running joke on 303 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: that show. Uh, you know, he always picks the Patriots 304 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: to win every game, which, for the record, unwritten rules 305 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: for what's a post and what's not is what gives 306 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: you a little juice, what puts a little hop in 307 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: Dan Hanson's step. And you obviously this got you going, 308 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: And I think that's perfectly fine to write about it. 309 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: All right, good, thanks West. I feel like West, you 310 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: and I are in a good place today. Yeah, um, alright, 311 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: Well that chemistry we've been doing on NFL, now hey, 312 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: make sure you're checking out. And they are the Paul 313 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: Riser and Helen Hunts of NFL. Now, West and then 314 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: you gotta watch the West and I were not are 315 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: another reference. TV has no idea we were trying. We 316 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: were trying to piece together who would be Paul Riser 317 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: and who would be Helen Hunt. There's really no way, 318 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: there's no connective tissue on any level with us with 319 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: those two particular human beings. So decided I was Helen 320 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: Hut you get the Oscar or the Golden Globe at 321 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: I don't want. Yeah, I'm sure Riser is a very 322 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: nice house in Malibu. Rolando McClain, who had a really 323 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: nice bounce back season with the Dallas Cowboys last year 324 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: and is now a free agent UM who's expected to 325 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: be He's facing a suspension potentially UH to start the season. 326 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: He's he's meeting with the New England Patriots. This is 327 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: a move that was first reported by ESPN. UM McClean 328 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: is still a negotiation with the Cowboys media NFL Media 329 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: Inside Ian Rapp report reports, but the final price tag 330 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: on his deal will be nowhere near what it would 331 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: have been during the middle of the season last year 332 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: before his off the field issues came back into focus. 333 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: H Greg, you are the Patriots guy. Is McClean a 334 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: guy you want in your building? Yeah? I like when 335 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: the Patriots take a chance on these guys and they 336 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: have problems that inside linebacker right now. Dante Hightower, who 337 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: has been inside now has an injury where he's out 338 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: six seven months. Gerard Mayo's coming off a big injury. Yeah, 339 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: they can take swings on guys like la Garrett Blunt 340 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: or Rolando McClain. Throw him in there, see what happens. 341 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: A lot of talent. I assume he's going to be 342 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: for very low little money. He's just a situation where 343 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: Rlando McClain's agent and the Patriots are using this for 344 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: separate issues. The Patriots to send a message to Gerard 345 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: Mayo to take a pay cut, and the McClane to 346 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: send a message to the Cowboys to up their offer. 347 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: I wish I knew who his agent was. They have 348 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: a very good relation. They have a very good relationship 349 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: with Drew Rosenhouse worked very closely on a lot of things. 350 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: Maybe that's it a little favor. My favorite Drew Rosenhouse 351 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: UH image from this past Super Bowl was when I 352 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: covered in a rainy Arizona bar Madden Bowl and Lashawn McCoy, 353 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: his client, was in the finals against Patrick Peterson. He's 354 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: vanquished in the finals and now needs to get to 355 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: his car in the rain to be taken away to 356 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: the next party whatever, and it's reigning Drew rosen the 357 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 1: house with his sports jacket covering Lashawn Nikoy's head as 358 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: they walked through the rain together. Wow, that's a real agent. 359 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: That's an agent. That's Jerry maguire stuff. That's quon uh. 360 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: Moving on, Miles Austin back on the grid, expected to 361 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: sign with the Philadelphia Eagles. The former Cowboys receiver uh 362 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: was a middling somewhat subpar receiver for the Browns last 363 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: year in twelve games before landing on injured reserve with 364 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: a kidney injury. So now he's thirty years old. Now 365 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: he's now a crossed the thirty yard thirty year old 366 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: Barry and he hasn't really been a big time receiver 367 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: in several years. So the Eagles West just feels like 368 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: they're just gonna maybe take a look at them, see 369 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: if they can let me get something at him. Listen, 370 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people can can succeed in that offense. Right, Yeah, 371 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: I'm surprised he's only thirty. He plays like he's thirty eight. Um, 372 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: he did better than expected with the Browns last year, 373 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: but he doesn't move well anymore. West really battled. I 374 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 1: remember in our top one hundred to have Miles Austin 375 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: even higher. I remember going into last year, you were 376 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: a big Austin guy. So I'm going to count that 377 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: as a win for me. No, no, no, no, it was. 378 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: It was Miles Austin versus Sydney Rice, who you wanted 379 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: hire and who promptly retired scientists lost. I think working 380 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: at wingstops, So that's not truly retirement. I mean he career. 381 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: He owns the wingstops. Greg made this point a week 382 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: that Chip Kelly decided that wide receivers are easily replaced 383 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: in his system, and what better evidence than bringing in 384 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: Miles Austin. Yeah, right now would be Austin, Riley Cooper, 385 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: Jordan Matthews and Josh Huff as their top four. Not pretty, 386 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: but you figure they'll draft someone. They're reportedly pretty high 387 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: on Josh Huff. They think he has a higher ceiling 388 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: than Matthews, who, by the way, is um We talked 389 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: about all the time the Dalton scale as him being 390 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: a prime Roodian of quarterbacks. Who's the Dalton scale for 391 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: wide receivers? Well, it was the heart It was the heartline. 392 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: That's he That was more of a contract thing he's lost. No, 393 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: it's a good question because heartline was because he's certainly 394 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: not anymore now and it was a unique case where 395 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: it also was counting his contract was really the heartline. 396 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: So it's a it's an interesting question. I'm Kenny Britt 397 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: making a push for this one. Kenny Britt, Well, that's 398 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: good for him. The Rams have him is their number 399 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: one receiver and he's really not even a number two 400 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: for other teams. Yeah, but he the fact that he 401 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: has so much talent, he seems like it had. He 402 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: seems like a strange choice for she really should be 403 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: someone who's middle. Uh, who do you say? No, he's 404 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: too up and down. How about Doug Baldwin. Yes, that's perfect, 405 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: nailed it. I think that's the answer. Um. And finally, 406 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: Jared Allen, coming off a bad year in Chicago's first 407 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: year they're signed a big contract only at five and 408 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: a half, acts as a guy that basically was a 409 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: lock for eleven or twelve sex every year gets to 410 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: the Bears, and that doesn't work out now under a 411 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: new regime. So the GM and coach that brought him 412 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: to Chicago has gone. Uh. The defensive scheme that he's 413 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: played in his whole career, which was a four three, 414 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: it's now a three four there, so he would have 415 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: to be an outside linebacker as opposed to defensive ends. 416 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: So that's changing. He's thirty three years old. As I said, 417 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: he's coming off a year where he didn't play well 418 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: and was injured, and yet he he wants everyone to 419 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: know or specifically, uh, Ryan Pace and John Fox and 420 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: oh I'm good still? Really he said that? He actually 421 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: said He told the Chicago Tribune that he said that 422 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: to the GM and coach when he bumped into them 423 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: at the annual meeting in Arizona. So, Greg, I'll start 424 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: with you on this, Jared Allen. Is there a reason 425 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: to suspect he can have a bounce back season under 426 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: Fick Fangio or is this a season a situation where 427 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: he's only there because of his salary kept him there. 428 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: He guaranteed money. There's any not going to have a 429 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: big role or a big impact this. He would not 430 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: be on the team if not for the contract. But 431 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: because he is on the team with the contract, they're 432 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: going to try to figure something out. But he doesn't 433 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: have a position really in that And then you look 434 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: at the other people at that position there, let's go 435 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: through it, McPhee, Lamar and then who else am I 436 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: forgetting here? I think they're moving Shane McClellan inside. They're 437 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: moving McClellan inside. He he could be the fourth best 438 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: pass rusher. Jared Allen struggled for most of the last year. 439 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: He came on a little bit at the end, but 440 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: at this point he's he would be like the Dalton 441 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: scale for a starting defensive end, or maybe even lower 442 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: than that. Right now would be Jared Allen. Your thoughts 443 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: was I think that Jared Allen had a bad year, 444 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: as we predicted on our top one of one free 445 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: agents last year, and we assigned him a grade around 446 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: thirty and agent got all peeve, Oh, that's right, started 447 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: slamming me. What do you remember any actual lines or 448 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: quotes from the email similar to what I said about 449 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: Rodney Harrison, who's Chris Westy. We care. He thought that 450 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: Jared Allen should be ranked like one of the top 451 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: ten free agents last year, a thirty two year old 452 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: pass rusher, and now the Bears wish they could cut 453 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: him right and you and you know, he did a 454 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: good job getting a big time contract, really an amazing 455 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: contract if you think about it, that he didn't have 456 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: that much interest and he got all this guaranteed money 457 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: this year. He had five and a half sacks a 458 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: season ago, so he was not effective as a pass rutcher. 459 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: They're now moving positions where he's possibly standing up. The 460 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: guy I forgot, by the way, had more sacks than 461 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: Jared Allen as a free agent for much less money. 462 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: Willie Young so young, so Alan could be fourth on 463 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: the depth chart here on the outside. And one thing, 464 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised you didn't have a great market 465 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: last year, right, he kind of was. He was kind 466 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: of getting a little too cute, if I remember, with 467 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: the Seattle visit, and he wasn't really playing the market 468 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,959 Speaker 1: maybe to the full. Those seven seasons before he got 469 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: to Chicago, he was putting together a borderline hall of 470 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: fame resume. He might be a hall of fame. Yeah, 471 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: these are just just his seven year sacks hold fifteen 472 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: and a half, fourteen and a fourteen and a half, 473 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: eleven twenty two and two thousand, eleven, twelve and eleven 474 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: and a half before dipping down to five and a half. 475 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: And he said he had a back issue and the 476 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 1: flu issue that cost him like twenty pounds and and 477 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: and if he's healthy, maybe he does bounce back. But 478 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: I would think the scheme issues the biggest concern. If 479 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: he didn't have a twelve million dollar guaranteed contract this year, 480 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: the Bears might be able to trade him somewhere to 481 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: a team where he could play in a four three defense. 482 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: But I I agree with Greg, he's a bad scheme. 483 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: Maybe they'll even have him play inside. I mean, he's 484 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: a tough he's a tough guy who knows maybe not 485 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: really be an outside passenger. Four time by the way, 486 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: first Team All Pro. He's gonna have a pretty good 487 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: case for the Hall of Fame someday. But the thing is, 488 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: there's so many pass rushers from his generation, guys like 489 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis. There's all kinds of guys 490 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: there have similar DeMarcus ware. I can't wait, Me and 491 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: you will be on the committee. It will be great. Um, 492 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: that's what's happening, gentlemen. Greg, I know you have a 493 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: high octane management meeting at two, so we've had to 494 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: move our time of this show in general so I 495 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: can get to a meeting and then just you know, 496 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: repeat something that I already have sent an email for 497 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: him previously handsome Thanks, not gonna like what you just 498 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: heard if he listens to the show the Notorious d 499 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: op Do we have time for a couple of tweets 500 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: about when West is toaster before? Right? Um? I I 501 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: asked West or West volunteered to throw me some tweets 502 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: from from you listeners or viewers that checked out when 503 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: West's Toaster, Now keep him on. I haven't looked at 504 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: any of these, and West submitted them, so they they're 505 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: probably gonna be very pro West. I'm gonna say, I'm 506 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: gonna go out on a limb. We'll start with the 507 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: first one. Uh. This from Kevin Brown. Damn, I thought 508 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: your trivia rep was hype, but eleven out of twelve 509 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: verse two out of twelve, you're the king and the 510 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: rightful owner of the toaster. Oh West, you guys mean 511 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: to send you tweets. I don't think anybody would knocking 512 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: the segment Bill Diamond from one twelve man to another. 513 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: Nice showing on when West is Toaster. This is to 514 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: the our friend who was our first contestant on HILLA. 515 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: Chris Wesley is not human, He's an NFL Wiki hashtag. Well, 516 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: I think we can separate West's outstanding performance, one of 517 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: his best, with the ineptitude of the tomato cans that 518 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: TD lined up because they had no control over them, 519 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: going two out of twelve. And I have heard from 520 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: another high um octane high up in the company producer 521 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: at NFL that thought we did a poor job scoring 522 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: and that you should have not got two of those 523 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: answers right. In the future, if you blurred out an 524 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: answer wrong, you're not allowed to correct it, so the 525 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: rules committee will talk about it. Well, then you wouldn't 526 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: have ever had the toaster because you corrected yourself against 527 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: who is this producer We're not going to get he's 528 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: a fan of the show. He couldn't be anymore wrong. 529 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: It's definitely on the table. You get to correct yourself. 530 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: He says that you can't do that on Jeopardy and 531 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: other This isn't Jeopardy. It's win West's toaster. Get out 532 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: of your high placed. The power is getting to West 533 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: and said, putting get out of here anyway, So a 534 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: bunch of glowing stuff that there's one more from Grhand 535 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: Brown at the Century Great watching when West's toaster from 536 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: around the NFL. I think that's a a reference to 537 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: us being on NFL now for the first time, which 538 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: hopefully I thought that was a reference to my joke. 539 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: What could be more than two thousand and fifteen than 540 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: like a radio quiz show. Yeah, basically, Greg's instincts have 541 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: been impeccable on this game. He's never thought it's been good. 542 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: Everyone loves it, Greg eating all that humble pie every 543 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: time we play the game. Oh people, people love to 544 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: hate me in this room. I'm like, I'm like the Bob, 545 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: like the heel and w w you're a little Bobby 546 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,239 Speaker 1: the brain he um and hopefully we're gonna have more 547 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: and more NFL now content and the year, so you know, 548 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: stay tuned on that all right now, finally, let's get 549 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: into uh the piece that Greg wrote up as I 550 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: said that earlier, and it's called eight Biggest Surprises of offseason, 551 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: and um, right off the top, this doesn't surprise me 552 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: at all. The number one is this an order of 553 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: I didn't mean it to be a alright, well you 554 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: have right off the top, the Saints go crazy, go 555 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: trade crazy. Should I just go through the eight and 556 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: maybe will uh pick one out? Number two the Rams 557 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: get a big return at a Sam Bradford. Let's start 558 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: with those two. So the Saints, we've we've talked about Greg, 559 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: your thoughts on that. They're fascinating because you don't see 560 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: this in the NFL too often. You see it in 561 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: the NBA, and it feels at once kind of desperate 562 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: and without a real plan. But on the other hand, 563 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: it feels like, you know, maybe it's gonna work, maybe 564 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: it will energize. Like I'm not putting a big judgment 565 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: on it that I think it's a terrible decision what 566 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: they've done. But you trade Grubs, Stills and Jimmy Graham 567 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: all back to back, get rid of Curtis Lofton, It's like, 568 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: what a what a big overhaul. I thought that Jimmy 569 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: Graham trade itself was more surprising than than the Rams 570 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: getting a big return for Sam Bradford. Sam Bradford's the 571 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: former number one overall pick and we've said multiple times 572 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: scouts and executives love his arm. But we didn't. We 573 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: weren't saying that in February or March, and I'm partly 574 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: putting up as a surprise. Maybe not February March, but 575 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about when we did a podcast last August 576 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: or September. If we could listen to what we said 577 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: about the future of Sam Bradford, then we thought he 578 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: was either get cut. The Sam Bradford arrow was over, 579 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: which that that was right, it was over, or he 580 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: would have to take a massive pay cut to somehow 581 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: stay on the team. Instead, they end up getting second 582 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: round picks, he gets all his money. I'm just saying 583 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me at all. We were writing about 584 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: this a month ago, that so many teams need quarterbacks, 585 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: and with his obvious talent, even with the injuries, it 586 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me that someone took a chance on him. 587 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: I have a bit of a sessler that everyone's gonna 588 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: sleep on the Saints this season and they're gonna drop 589 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: a twelve win Hammer would not surprise me. You got 590 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: a bit of a sessler there. See, if west are 591 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: you're going to choose him to win the super Bowl again, 592 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: that's what You're never doing that again. All right, the 593 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: two of you guys on the Saints corner. Maybe I'm 594 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: not picking up for the super Bowl, but I think 595 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: they're you're saying they don't have a plan. I think 596 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: they do have a plan. They isn't the Oakland Raiders, 597 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: but they keep changing it and making it up as 598 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: they go along. I mean, they thought they had a 599 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: good defense last year and they didn't. They were wrong. Yeah, 600 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: Brandon Browner, there's some things that also feel like they 601 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: don't have a plan. Danelle ellerby Brandon Browner. I don't know. 602 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: Next up you have Greg Hardy and Trent Richardson get paid. Um, 603 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: I feel like this is one was a little overplayed 604 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: because Greg Hardy is not gonna get a ton of 605 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: money depending on what I didn't want to just give 606 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: you the eight biggest head, Trent Richardson. Trent Richardson gets 607 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: paid exactly like six under grand if he doesn't, you 608 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: know anything else, at six hundred grand more than I 609 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: would have expected. You made, you made a proposition he 610 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't even get a carry, and still standing by it. 611 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: I think it could happen, right, and I agree, So 612 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: why are the Raiders or anyone giving him two million 613 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: dollars for this year? If he makes a team in 614 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: six hundred thousand to start Talctor Trent Richardson got six 615 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: thousand guaranteed. I thought that was honestly a sandwich in 616 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: the bank, sandwich in the belly with Cessler, because I 617 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: thought there's no way any team is gonna go near 618 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: Trent Richardson. He doesn't work hard, he's not he's not 619 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: a productive guy. But I forgot the big old Reggie 620 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: Mackenzie in the room. Anything's possible, and Reggie Reggie's involved 621 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: in accept signing good players, and with Greg Hardy in 622 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: this environment in the NFL, after what he was arrested 623 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: for domestic violence last year and that he could be suspended, 624 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: the fact that he can make more money per game 625 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: this season than Dez Bryant. He's gonna make way more 626 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: per game than DeMarco Murray, that's stunning. It's stunning to me. 627 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: It was stunning to well, look at the discrepancy between 628 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: him and ray Rice. Ray Rice is still radioactive. Greg 629 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: Hardy gets thirteen million pos just but it just show 630 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: this off field stuff is overrated in terms of how 631 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: teams will view and it helps if your owner is 632 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: the GM and is ready to just spend the money 633 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: and doesn't have to worry about ownership because he'll take 634 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: the heat Greg Hardy right now, imagine if he was 635 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: coming out in the draft and he had gotten arrested 636 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: for domestic violence a year ago, wouldn't that crush his stock? 637 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: And yet he's in the NFL. He's getting fade thirteen 638 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: million potentially. It's crazy. Uh. Two veteran names that are 639 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: on the move are two more numbers on Greg's list. 640 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: The Ravens trade loading Nata coming off a very strong 641 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: season in Baltimore, and Frank Gore, according to Greg, found 642 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: a better home. This is the one that was maybe 643 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: a stretch because I'm a Gore fan, but it's just nice. 644 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: After being in a perfect run heavy offense like Jim 645 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: Harbaugh last few years, he finds an even better spot 646 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. I think the Nada thing is is similar 647 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: to what you were saying about Bradford. It would have 648 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: surprised us in December or January, but we knew leading 649 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: up to the deadline or eating up to the start 650 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: of the league year that they wanted him to take 651 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: a pay cut, and there was not there was a 652 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: chance he might have even been released. It's just interesting 653 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: they're eating seven point five million and dead money to 654 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: get rid of him. It was not the last year 655 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: of his contract. They're paying seventeen eight million, eighteen million 656 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: dollars in salary cap space this year to Haloti, Nada 657 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: and ray Rice. We talked about this when it when 658 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: it happened, or somewhat recently that given Nazzi and Newsom's 659 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: track record, there's probably maybe something that a lot of 660 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: people don't know about Nada, Like I wouldn't be surprised 661 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: if you fell off the map this year. That's fair. 662 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: And when I looked at his snap counts, I realized 663 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: he already was a part time player last year. That 664 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 1: that Brandon Williams and Timmy Journ again, we're playing a 665 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: lot for him. So part of the equation had to 666 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: be can I pay this much money to a guy 667 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: paying five, you know, playing snaps. I think that's the 668 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: biggest part of it is Brandon Williams and in Journey, 669 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: and I think that they are really high on those 670 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: two guys. U two More the Bills, three more Bills 671 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: become one of the NFL's most fascinating teams, the Matt 672 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: Castle lad Bills according to Greg and also not according 673 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: to Greg, it's a fact, alright, go ahead the Bills Rex. 674 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean, when Doug Barone left, we thought, I thought 675 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: that was some sort of big loss. And they replace 676 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: them with Rex and then they get Lashawn McCoy and 677 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: Percy Harvin and Charles they bring Charles Clay into the mix. 678 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: You get you upgrade at quarterback and oh Mark, you 679 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 1: know West doesn't care about not upgrade at did upgrade 680 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: at quarter whatever. It's a really interesting team. It's highly 681 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: of Tyrod Taylor. The Bills have been boring in in 682 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: the NFL wilderness, to use a Sessler phrase, for a decade. 683 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: They're on there on the front of the map. They're 684 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: kind of like the Jets were in two thousand, you know, 685 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: nine ten. Yeah, Well, I like that West is uh 686 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: that Rex is in a situation now where it looks 687 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: very depressing when he took the job and that he 688 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: let his ego get in the way. Now they're genuinely 689 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 1: frisky team, but he still does have that quarterback issue, 690 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: and that's why I can't get so they still feel 691 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: like it's an eight wind ceiling as long as they 692 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback. They ga have that defensive line, 693 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: which is fun to watch. And they're one of those 694 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: teams maybe I guess I'm out. I'm by myself on 695 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: this one among our group, but they're one of the 696 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: teams like I want to watch them week one. That's 697 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,919 Speaker 1: one of the teams I can't wait to watch. They're 698 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: just gonna be really interesting to see how that all 699 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: works together. I agree, they're an interesting team. I don't 700 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: know how fun they will be to watch with Matt 701 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: cassle a quarterball my favorite. By the way, Taylor, I'm 702 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: in okay, be careful what you wish for um. Doug Maron, 703 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: by the way, since you brought it up, my favorite, 704 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 1: like twenty four hour news cycle, the moment of two 705 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen. It technically was because it was on 706 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, because I remember I was in the 707 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: office is when he walked out on the bills and 708 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 1: then all over the internet where tweets and reports Doug Marone. 709 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 1: Everyone around the league loves what this guy did in Buffalo. 710 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: This is one of the hottest names on the market 711 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: right now. The Jets are gonna make a hard play. 712 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: Get ready. Doug Marone is on fire. And now he's 713 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 1: like he's writing the yearbook for the Jaguars or something. 714 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: Every every single inside tier took the Twitter that day 715 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: to tell us how sought after Doug Maron was? He 716 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: just sought after all right, book copy. Now he's teaching 717 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: Luke joke called the kickstep. Uh, let's see what else 718 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: we got here, Los Angeles. Let's do two more and 719 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: then West, Greg, you gotta get at it. You gotta 720 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 1: go to management. L A gains even more momentum. This 721 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: is finally happening. One one thought on that, Greg, Well, 722 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: just because we've always had momentum, and there was some 723 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: during last season, but then it picks up in the 724 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: off season with them voting on the rams Uh Stadium 725 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: in Inglewood that's been approved, and then the Chargers and 726 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: the Raiders combined on a stadium proposal. If you had 727 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: just told me that in November, that seems ridiculous. Yeah, 728 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: I agree, West. Oh yeah. And finally, because there's only 729 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: one way to tee up this discussion, h this was 730 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: number eight, the final one in your list. Retirement stunned 731 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: the NFL, especially forty nine, So I'll tee it up 732 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 1: the way. For some reason, it's like almost control actually obligated. Hey, 733 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: Greg Rose, though this is the start of a trend. No, 734 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: it's not all. I don't think it is. I mean, 735 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: we'd have to see what happens next year. Each one 736 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: of these situations was totally different. I'm not making light 737 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: of like why it might be a trend, but everybody 738 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: kind of jumped to that automatically, and Chris Borland was 739 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: the only one that was the head issue concerns. Borland 740 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 1: is a fascinating case because we've never seen a player 741 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: that we can think of sighting head trauma and risk 742 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: and worrying about it before anything really happened to him 743 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: at the NFL level. If that starts happening like that 744 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: is a story. But until we see it, Jason Worlds 745 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: and Jake Locker, it's like those had nothing to do 746 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: with it. I think this was the most surprising if 747 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: you put all these four guys together. Yeah, it's the 748 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: most surprising of all of them, And if only one 749 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: of them retired, it would have been the most surprising 750 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: of all of them. To me, I didn't expect any 751 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 1: of these guys to retire. No Willis Worlds walks away 752 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: from fifteen to twenty million guaranteed it. Just in terms 753 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 1: of pure surprise. I was as surprised when I got 754 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: a text that world was retiring as anything that happened 755 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: this offseason, except for the Jimmy Graham trade. When we 756 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: were all sitting at work for that one. The Jimmy 757 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: Graham chade was that was insane. That yeah, that that 758 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: got a little I was ruckus out of the newsroom. 759 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: I was with Greg at a taco shop when the 760 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: World's News came over and he looked at his phone 761 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: and he went, what in the world's accurate? I wish 762 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: we hung out a taco shops. Dan knows, Dan knows 763 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: a good place we should go. We should get tacos, buddy, 764 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: that's if. Yeah, I love tacos. Tacos are great, especially 765 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. All right, that's it. Those are the 766 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: eight big surprises. That is it for Monday's edition of 767 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast, A nice tight thirty eight. 768 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 1: We'll be back on Wednesday with the great Mark Sessler. 769 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: West's last show before vacation. Greg is off to meet 770 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: the man. This is Dan Hans's signing off for the 771 00:38:51,840 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: whole crew and t V until what'sa Can we get this? 772 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: A lot of questions? Had to fight in a cage match, 773 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: two wins and may back. Yeah, that seems like we 774 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 1: get that every time. I've addressed that before on the show. 775 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: Like all they ever do is try to put things 776 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: about how we argue who was better than the other 777 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: person In this case, it is It is a good 778 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: question because I don't you know, West is probably the 779 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: most probably but I don't know, I don't know, not 780 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: like West is uh Captain America over there. You know, 781 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: Upset Sessor is dead on the floor. I've got a 782 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: lot of I've got a lot of want to I've 783 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: got some wind to me. That's where I got what 784 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 1: you guys don't have. I can run around. I can run. 785 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: I got stamina, is what I'm trying to say. West 786 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: is going to be tired after a little while. I 787 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 1: can just keep taking I've got the run to Rousey 788 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 1: arm Bar. Basically, Mark will be dead and then West 789 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: and I will corner you and kill you, and then 790 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 1: West will probably kill me. It's probably out of marks cash. 791 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: I hope your was kind of like this. It was 792 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: like this, Yeah, it's like this is the Mark punch, 793 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,240 Speaker 1: all right? To save it for the pot.