WEBVTT - Jokic Greatness, Wemby vs Giannis and Lakers Discontent

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<v Speaker 1>Okitch has it, clob takes gotta put one up, Gil

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<v Speaker 1>Kids for the woman Kids, God, the all kids cut

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<v Speaker 1>it off in time and the Nuggets with it?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 3>Majors? Welcome hereto NBA Pulster production of iHeartRadio in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Sarah Kustak, NBA analyst for the y S Network,

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<v Speaker 3>and today is Friday, January fifth. From our extraordinary core

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<v Speaker 3>group of NBA journalists, We're joined now by NBA dot

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<v Speaker 3>Com Senior writer Steve Ashburnner and ohe Ass. We had

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<v Speaker 3>a good Thursday night of hoops. Two games that came

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<v Speaker 3>down to the wire. The open ear the Milwaukee Bucks

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<v Speaker 3>in San Antonio spurs a one to twenty five, one

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one victory for the Bucks as we saw Jannis

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<v Speaker 3>and Victor wembin Yama go at it for the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>We will get into that one in just a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>But the nightcap the Nuggets the Warriors. It came down

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<v Speaker 3>to the wire and who else to come through? Although

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<v Speaker 3>I say that you got two clutch players there more

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<v Speaker 3>than that between the Nuggets and the Warriors, and fortunately

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<v Speaker 3>a turnover by Steph Curry set up an opportunity for

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<v Speaker 3>the Nuggets to have the final possession, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>Nikola Jokic with the buzzer beating three pointer to give

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<v Speaker 3>Denver the three point win. And ash I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>get into this one not just about the Nuggets getting

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<v Speaker 3>another win and beating the Warriors here in this one,

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<v Speaker 3>it was a pretty complete effort. Jokic with thirty four points,

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<v Speaker 3>nine rebounds. He had ten assists thirteen of sixteen from

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<v Speaker 3>the field, so he was highly highly efficient. Aaron Gordon

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<v Speaker 3>now has been back for Denver. He had thirty points,

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<v Speaker 3>nine rebounds. Twenty five from Murray Peyton Watson continues to

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<v Speaker 3>impress off the bench with nineteen points. Curry as well

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<v Speaker 3>had thirty points. A nice game from Klay Thompson, but

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<v Speaker 3>more so about Nicola Jokich. It's not just about another

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<v Speaker 3>buzzer beater. It's not just about a win here for

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<v Speaker 3>the Nuggets, but the things in the ways in which

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<v Speaker 3>he continues to truly amaze and step up to the moments.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the comfort level for a guy like Michael

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<v Speaker 3>Malone for him to give the ball to the two

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<v Speaker 3>time MVP and have it in his hands and make

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<v Speaker 3>some decisions. That one obviously it needed to be a

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<v Speaker 3>three point. Look what makes Yokich unique different from so

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<v Speaker 3>many other MVP candidate and so many other elite level

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<v Speaker 3>players that we see in this league.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my goodness, I mean after two MVPs, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's sort of proven his brand and probably could be

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<v Speaker 2>an MVP candidate for you know, the foreseeable future. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>to me, it's it's his passing and his past first

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<v Speaker 2>mentality and the way he makes teammates better by virtue

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<v Speaker 2>of that. You know, he's a threat first and foremost

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<v Speaker 2>to find an open man, and then when necessary or

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity presents itself, like it did at at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of a tie game, you know that he becomes

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<v Speaker 2>a matchup nightmare because if he's got the ball out high,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's a matchup challenge for Golden State in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of just his size. Uh And but if you

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<v Speaker 2>have a big, big man out there, then all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, you know he's got he's got more mobility

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously more skills than most of the big men

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<v Speaker 2>in the league. So let us count the ways in

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<v Speaker 2>which Jokic distances himself, separates himself from his peers, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Joel Embiid has taken over the spotlight as

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<v Speaker 2>far as MVP, you know, last year and even potentially

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<v Speaker 2>this year. But Jokic, if anything, is as good as

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<v Speaker 2>he's ever been, uh and maybe better than he's ever been.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And it feels that way. And it was an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting game. It just a game of runs. We see

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<v Speaker 3>that so often throughout the course of these NBA games.

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<v Speaker 3>But Denver had a nice lead there in the second quarter.

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<v Speaker 3>In the third quarter, Golden State pulled away. They outscored

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<v Speaker 3>Denver forty four twenty four. In this Nuggets team, though,

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<v Speaker 3>you really are impressed by the compilation of how these

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<v Speaker 3>guys all come together, and I feel like it always

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<v Speaker 3>has them postgame talking about Jokic and the even keeled,

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<v Speaker 3>composed nature that he brings to the table. And I

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<v Speaker 3>also think just knowing that there's so many things you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>is passing and that absolutely is some things that you

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<v Speaker 3>know is at the top of the list of his

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<v Speaker 3>skill set. But I think because of that, it makes

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<v Speaker 3>him such a threat in how teams have to play him,

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<v Speaker 3>knowing that he can facilitate for his teammates, he can

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<v Speaker 3>score all of those things. Who do you have We're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about this in terms of best players, top players, MVP,

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<v Speaker 3>Who do you have on your MVP list as the

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<v Speaker 3>number one guy at this point of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think I haven't checked the last couple of days,

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<v Speaker 2>but I probably had Joel Embiid. I think that statistically

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<v Speaker 2>he's even a little better than he was last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what Philadelphia has has done in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>clearing out the James Harden difficulties and now still looking

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<v Speaker 2>like a legit contender behind Boston in the in the East.

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<v Speaker 2>With Tyris Maxi stepping up his game, I think Embiid

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<v Speaker 2>makes as just as big a case this year as

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<v Speaker 2>he did last year. That's early, but as m v

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<v Speaker 2>P and then after that, I mean, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>line up the usual suspects like Luca and Giannis and Jokic,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I think Shake gilgis Alexander to me, is

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<v Speaker 2>is right there and and deserving of a top five.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, consideration, we we won't make you, we won't

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<v Speaker 2>make it. You give us a full top ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well, well we'll leave that to my right in

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<v Speaker 3>his MVP ladder where where he started looking through. But

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't agree with you more about the Shake guild

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<v Speaker 3>just Alexander piece probably with you as well with the

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<v Speaker 3>Joel slightly you know him and him and Jokic, but

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<v Speaker 3>maybe and be getting that nod. But I am interested

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<v Speaker 3>to see what shake Guild of Alexander continues to do

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<v Speaker 3>with that Oklahoma City thunder team currently sitting second in

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<v Speaker 3>the Western Conference, a pretty stronghold. I'm where they've been

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<v Speaker 3>what he's accomplished. But speaking of votes, vote getters, top

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<v Speaker 3>vote getters, and one one that hangs in that top five,

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<v Speaker 3>but is the number one when it comes to All

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<v Speaker 3>Star voting is Janis Adeta Kumpo, number one overall vote getter,

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<v Speaker 3>Number one in the East. Number two in the East

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<v Speaker 3>was Joel and b Number three was Jason Tatum. On

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<v Speaker 3>the Western side of things, that's for the front court,

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<v Speaker 3>I should say Lebron James was the number two overall

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<v Speaker 3>vote getter, followed by Kevin Durant and then Nikola Jokic

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<v Speaker 3>in the front court. For guards in the West, it

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<v Speaker 3>was Doncic, then Currie, then Gildas Alexander. In the Eastern Conference,

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<v Speaker 3>Tyrese Haliburton was the number one vote getter by fans.

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<v Speaker 3>For guards in the Eastern Conference, followed by Dame Lillard

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<v Speaker 3>and Trey Young. But it's not about the All Star yet, Ash.

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<v Speaker 3>We will have plenty of time to get into that

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<v Speaker 3>as that approaches, because last night it was a first

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity for us to see Janis Detakoumpo, Victor Wembin Yama

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<v Speaker 3>go at it between one another. It was actually Victor's

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<v Speaker 3>twentieth birthday, so happy birthday to him. And it was

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<v Speaker 3>a sensational matchup. Denakupo forty four points, fourteen rebounds when

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<v Speaker 3>Baniyama had twenty seven points. Devin Vessel led the San

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<v Speaker 3>Antonio Spurs with thirty four points, and it was a

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<v Speaker 3>back and forth affair, especially down the final three minutes

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<v Speaker 3>of that game between Yannis and Victor. The defensive plays,

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<v Speaker 3>the three point shots, the clutch looks, it was it

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<v Speaker 3>flashed that we saw and we have seen throughout the

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<v Speaker 3>course of the season. We know what Yannis can do,

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<v Speaker 3>but of Wembin Yama showing that he really looks like

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<v Speaker 3>he will be the read real deal. When you look

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<v Speaker 3>at that back and forth matchup and just the understanding

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<v Speaker 3>of the moment this San Antonio Spurs team, they're five

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<v Speaker 3>and twenty nine they're last in the Western Conference, Milwaukee

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<v Speaker 3>currently sitting second in the East at the twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>and ten record. But these type of moments that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>all eyes are on this sensational young rookie that has

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<v Speaker 3>got a lot of hype coming in. What did Wembin

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<v Speaker 3>Yama show you in that moment and at that point

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<v Speaker 3>of the game that kind of starts to formulate your

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<v Speaker 3>opinion on what he could be in this league.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I I ranked the rookies every year

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<v Speaker 2>and every week, excuse me, And what I saw from

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<v Speaker 2>when min Yama last night was the way he dialed

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<v Speaker 2>up his game for top competition, both in a team

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<v Speaker 2>sense and individually with Giannis. I think he showed more

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<v Speaker 2>in that game because it was against a real contending team.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's been playing you know, the Spurs five

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty eight, five and twenty nine maybe now, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it probably haven't been a lot of moments where,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, down the stretch of a tight game against

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<v Speaker 2>class competition that he's been able to respond. And he

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<v Speaker 2>did respond. You know, over the course of that game,

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<v Speaker 2>he had a couple of dunks. He had one where

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<v Speaker 2>he passed to himself off the backboard, which course is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty ingenious for a guy his size to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Just dow it off the glass. The Bucks went for

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<v Speaker 1>the steal, didn't get it. Look at this, he knew

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't do a little finger roll, so just dow.

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<v Speaker 2>It off the rink. And then late he had that

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<v Speaker 2>breakout dunk where he got the ball and headed down court.

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<v Speaker 2>He troubled me behind his back to get by Damian Lillard,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he went he went over Brook Lopez, ram Benihana.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what are you kidding me? Come on, you not corn,

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<v Speaker 1>Stop this, Stop this. Look at this. This is around

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<v Speaker 1>a guard in Lillard and a finish over a seven

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<v Speaker 1>footer man special talent, a special talent.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that those are pretty stirring moments. And yet

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<v Speaker 2>he's a rookie. So what do we see at the

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<v Speaker 2>very end the spurs potential final possession. He goes and

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<v Speaker 2>he steps across the end line when he's inbounding the

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<v Speaker 2>ball and a very simple mistake. So you know that

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<v Speaker 2>stuff's going to happen. But I just I watched that

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<v Speaker 2>game thinking is he honest? Is he thinking about a

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<v Speaker 2>never facing anybody quite like that? And b reflecting on

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<v Speaker 2>himself when he was twenty and how far he has come,

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<v Speaker 2>and what Webin Yama might be if he travels the

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<v Speaker 2>same path, if he dedicates himself and works as hard

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<v Speaker 2>and builds himself up physically. I mean, my goodness, he

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<v Speaker 2>could be you know, Yannis, you know, to the nth

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<v Speaker 2>degree at that point. So a great fascinating matchup to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's said as much about the Bucks and

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<v Speaker 2>their struggles their flaws this season as it did about

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<v Speaker 2>woman Yama and the Spurs. But what great entertainment.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you said it in terms of the Bucks

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<v Speaker 3>and in terms of what that meant for us as

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<v Speaker 3>basketball fans and viewers. To see that back and forth

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<v Speaker 3>battle down the stretch with those two stars, To obviously

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<v Speaker 3>see a close, tightly contested game is something that we

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<v Speaker 3>all love and find fun and enjoyable. But for that

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<v Speaker 3>Milwaukee Bucks team, that's not what you want. That's not

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<v Speaker 3>what you want against the last place team in the

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<v Speaker 3>West Conference, one that is struggling and you know, one

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<v Speaker 3>in which you feel like you should have a good

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<v Speaker 3>handle on Milwaukee. Despite the fact that the record looks good,

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<v Speaker 3>as I said, they're place in the Eastern Conference, it

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<v Speaker 3>has been solid, they are still one searching for a

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<v Speaker 3>variety of things to come together if they truly want

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<v Speaker 3>to be a title contending team. As they are speaking

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<v Speaker 3>of another team that wanted to be a title contending

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<v Speaker 3>team and has run into a lot of issues, the

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles Lakers, Ash, we are going to discuss their

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<v Speaker 3>struggles after break. Welcome back to MM Pulse. Saracoustak joined

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<v Speaker 3>by the great Steve Ashburner and Ash who the Los

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<v Speaker 3>Angeles Lakers. There was a lot of hope, promise for

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<v Speaker 3>what this team could be coming into this season. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Lebron James has been tremendous, carrying the load

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<v Speaker 3>you think about coming into the season, and the concept

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<v Speaker 3>and thought of him being able to be on a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a minute's restriction and just the responsibility needed

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<v Speaker 3>from him here as a thirty nine year old has

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<v Speaker 3>been tremendous. Anthony Davis solid as well, But after that

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the pieces have fallen off. The Lakers

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<v Speaker 3>currently sitting tenth in the Western Conference seventeen and eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>record here they've lost three in a row, but the

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<v Speaker 3>issues go much deeper than that, and seemingly some disconnect

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<v Speaker 3>and frustration obviously, but turmoil amongst the team and what

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<v Speaker 3>things may look like moving forward in any of the

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<v Speaker 3>solutions that they could find to try and get the

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<v Speaker 3>season back on track. How would you characterize what's going

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<v Speaker 3>on with this Lakers team in ways in which at

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<v Speaker 3>this point of the year, you know, we're sitting here

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<v Speaker 3>now the turn of the calendar year, what they can

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<v Speaker 3>do to try and correct the direction that they've been

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<v Speaker 3>at this juncture.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean it strikes me as Hollywood drama, you

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<v Speaker 2>know you get from the Lakers. I mean it's based

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<v Speaker 2>on their expectations as Laker fans at uh, you know

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<v Speaker 2>in that market that you know this will not do.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, some of us look at the

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<v Speaker 2>vettering and aging teams, particularly in the West, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>Phoenix and the Lakers and Golden State, and they're all

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<v Speaker 2>sort of thrashing about trying to get traction in the standings.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know that that sort of misery loves company

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<v Speaker 2>thing is no boum for Laker fans. They expect more,

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<v Speaker 2>and frankly, any team on which Lebron plays, greater things

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<v Speaker 2>are expected. I think the Darvin Ham right now is

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<v Speaker 2>the guy in the crossairs allegedly there are players who

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<v Speaker 2>are unhappy with his rotations, his starting lineup changes. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>those might be the guys that are no longer starting,

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<v Speaker 2>that are that are are beefing behind the scenes or

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes, or it might be Lebron who just

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<v Speaker 2>feels like, you know, there's there's no real rhythm to

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<v Speaker 2>those sort of changes. You know, this far into a season,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, as long as the sources are unnamed,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be hard to pin down just what the

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<v Speaker 2>real problem is. But right now it's Darvin Ham in

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<v Speaker 2>the crosshairs. He is a fairly easy target, just as

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<v Speaker 2>Frank Vogel was before him, just as other coaches that

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron has had have been. And you know this is

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<v Speaker 2>not this is not Riley or Phil Jackson or even

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Kerr. You know, guys who have established themselves and

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<v Speaker 2>are sort of beyond reproach and that they will work

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<v Speaker 2>through this sort of stuff. Darvin Ham probably on a

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<v Speaker 2>on a you know, a fairly short leash as far

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<v Speaker 2>as you know coaching, you know, tenure, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see. I don't know that it would be the

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<v Speaker 2>right move. I know there are probably some reasons that

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<v Speaker 2>he too needs to work harder and do better. But

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't begin an end with the head coach there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and just the compilation of the roster, the lineup,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're right. It's also frankly players that are underperforming,

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<v Speaker 3>some that had, you know, played in a different manner,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it was last season or just how the pieces

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<v Speaker 3>have all fit together, some slower starts from others, and

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<v Speaker 3>guys that you're depending on, whether that's a D'Angelo Russell

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<v Speaker 3>or Torrian Prince or his players that have not not

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<v Speaker 3>performed to the manner that has you know, benefited the team.

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<v Speaker 3>And here you said about Lebron in his twenty first year,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, is he going to be the guy to

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<v Speaker 3>carry things? Yeah, but that's not exactly what you want

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<v Speaker 3>to look in putting the pieces around him. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think it's still obviously we do sit

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<v Speaker 3>here in January, but as the trade deadline approaches, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the damp darvin Ham piece of it is interesting to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think obviously there was a lot of enthusiasm of

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<v Speaker 3>the job he was able to do last year, and

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<v Speaker 3>part of it is X's and O's and part of

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<v Speaker 3>it is handling personalities. And I think for a team

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<v Speaker 3>too that was so predicated on defense and what they're

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<v Speaker 3>able to do on the defensive end, that aspect has

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<v Speaker 3>not come. So I'll be curious to see what moves

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<v Speaker 3>will be made, can be made to try and rectify

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<v Speaker 3>the situation, because think about what we were saying and

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about the Lakers at this point of last year

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<v Speaker 3>and how that shifted with a handful of moves and

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<v Speaker 3>in some players being moved and others coming in and

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<v Speaker 3>performing in a different level.

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<v Speaker 2>They shouldn't have to do that every year, though. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we see what means the teams in the league,

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<v Speaker 2>and the idea that well, we'll transform the roster for

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<v Speaker 2>the final thirty games is that shouldn't be a strategy,

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<v Speaker 2>and it speaks of desperation. I was at the game,

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<v Speaker 2>the birthday game for Lebron in Minneapolis last weekend, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I didn't know what they were doing, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>in the uh, you know, near the very end of

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<v Speaker 2>that game. I mean the play that blew up on them,

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<v Speaker 2>not Lebron's three point or two point controversy, but after that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know what. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>that shot was I think that the Minnesota defense had

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<v Speaker 2>something to do with that, but it didn't seem like

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<v Speaker 2>a very well drawn out play. And you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>that's the sort of thing that Ham's getting criticized for,

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<v Speaker 2>so be it, because that is you know, his his domain.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, we'll see. It could be, it could be,

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<v Speaker 2>and it probably will take more than one change.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that that I think is the one thing we

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<v Speaker 3>can be sure of. Ask As always, we appreciate you

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<v Speaker 3>your time, will continue to watch and read all your

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