1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:11,159 Speaker 1: It's that time time time, time, luck and load. The 2 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Michael darry Show is on the air. 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: In an interview with twelve news, Democratic Attorney General Chris 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: Mays warned that potential confrontations between citizens and ice agents 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: could turn deadly under a state law that justifies self defense, 6 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: the standard ground law. You're not telling folks you have license, 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: no or threatened well to shoot a peace officer. 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 3: No. 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: But but again, if you're being attacked by someone who 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: is not identified as a peace officer, how do you know. 11 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 3: Don't take your guns to town Son, Leave your guns 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 3: at home, Bill, don't take your guns to town. 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: The verdict was swift and harsh. 14 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: You think Mays should step down. Absolutely. First, she has 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: to recant, She has to be track this to try 16 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: to undo the han that she's done. 17 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: Senator John Kavanaugh is a top Republican at the Capitol. 18 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: Total shock and disbelief. 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: That I was hearing what I was hearing coming from 20 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: the Arizona Attorney General explaining how you could potentially lawfully 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: shoot a police officer. 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 3: Don't take your guns to town Son, leave your guns 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 3: at home, Bill, don't take your guns to town. 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 4: The AG's rhetoric does nothing but explain the situation that's 25 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 4: already full of a lot of tension to begin with. 26 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: Martin byrom Is, a retired trainer for ICE agents. 27 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 4: If somebody uses a firearm on a federal officer, where. 28 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: Do those rounds go. 29 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 4: Maybe they don't hit the federal officer, Maybe they hit 30 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 4: the neighbor across the street. 31 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: Maybe they hit a bus stop. 32 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: Don't take your guns to town, Son, leave your guns 33 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: at home, Bill, don't take your guns to turn. 34 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 5: Overnight outrage in Minneapolis after the killing of Alex Pretty, 35 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 5: a thirty seven year old I see you nurse shot 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 5: Saturday morning by a Federal Border Patrol agent. 37 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 6: This time it was thirty seven year old Alex Pretty 38 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 6: and I see you nurse who cared for veterans. Donald 39 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 6: Trump and his cabinet, his administration are demanding once again 40 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 6: that you not believe your eyes and ears. 41 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 3: Don't take your guns to town, Sun, leave your guns 42 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 3: at oh Lil, don't take your guns to town. 43 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: One of the agents in the audio, they didn't capture this. 44 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 4: They scream out, Hey, he's got a gun, he's got 45 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 4: a gun. 46 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: Gun. You hit that several times? 47 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 4: Was mister Pretty being compliant in showing his hands to 48 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 4: the agents as. 49 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: Billy Joe bell to the floor of the crowd, all 50 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 3: gathered round and underd at his final don't take your 51 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: guns to towns Sun, leave your guns at Homeville, don't 52 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 3: take your guns to town. 53 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: Overnight, the toilets were stolen from police headquarters at twelve 54 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: hundred Travis. They I saw a police spokesman this morning, 55 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: was interviewed and said, they don't have anything to go on. 56 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: You probably know by now, but in case you don't. 57 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: One of the great worries I have is that the 58 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: left is so good at setting the narrative. George Floyd 59 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: was choked out by a police officer, couldn't breathe and died. Well, 60 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: that's not true, but that was a narrative. It happened 61 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: so very often. And then it takes a while, but 62 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: the truth emerges, slowly, but surely, the truth finds its 63 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: way out into the public. The problem is the public 64 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: has moved on, and the storytellers, the people whose job 65 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: it is, whose mission it is, whose responsibility it is 66 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: to share with a public the details, have moved on 67 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: because they don't want you to know those details. So 68 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: you find yourself arguing with people about the George Floyd case. 69 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: They don't know about his ventanyl overdose not so long 70 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: before he died. They don't know that he was saying 71 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: I can't breathe as he sat in the back seat 72 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: of the squad car, long before he was on the ground, 73 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: and certainly he didn't have a knee on his neck. 74 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: And you sound like the kook. That's the problem, you see, 75 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: is it's better. You're better off just kind of being 76 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: a casual sports fan going through life, have your hobbies, 77 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: keep your head down, don't dig too deep, don't worry 78 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: too much, just hope that everything will turn out right, 79 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: because when you do start digging in, it's a responsibility. 80 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: It's a burden that you bear. I get it, you 81 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: have it, I have it. And then it becomes clear 82 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: that everything you once trusted is not worthy of trust, 83 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: or isn't today. The Walter Cronkites that you grew up 84 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: believing were so impartial and objective bearers of the news 85 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: that your parents sat in front of the television and 86 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: learned what was going on in the world, your connection 87 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: to the outer out to the outside world. And now 88 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: you see that those people who are doing that, those 89 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: reporters all have their own prejudices and biases, and they're 90 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: pure propaganda. They're pure propaganda. We're too quick to compare 91 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: things to Nazi Germany because it's the only frame of 92 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: reference we have for pure tyranny and evil for most people, 93 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: so we use that frame of reference. But this is 94 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: a case Goebbels or Gebels, however you want to pronounce. 95 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: It was the Minister of Propaganda, and it is probably 96 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: the best example we've ever seen before modern day America, 97 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: where you see an individual whose jab it is to 98 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: twist and gnarl the truth, to obscure so that people 99 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: won't know what's happening or won't believe it. I've watched 100 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: so many interviews with people who were living in Nazi 101 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: Germany at the time, a school teacher, a social worker, 102 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: a farmer, a stay at home mom, and they say, 103 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: we didn't know what was going on. We had no 104 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: idea what was going on. We just didn't know. And 105 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: you don't know if they knew, And so you think 106 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: to yourself, well, from what I've learned, everybody knew because 107 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: the Jews were being pulled out and you had crystal 108 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: knocked and all the businesses were closed and the star 109 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: of David was put over the front of them, and 110 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: you knew who the Jews were, and then they started disappearing. 111 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: How could you not know? I don't know how many 112 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: people you think know that the clock shot caused more 113 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: deaths than the actual COVID. How many people you know 114 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: are aware that we just didn't have the flu in 115 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, no reason to know why? Well, because the 116 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: flu deaths had to be counted his COVID desks. How 117 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: many people know that everybody who died and tested positive 118 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: for COVID, maybe some who didn't test positive were marked 119 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: a COVID desk because you had to run the tally up. 120 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: Because we were engaged in authoritarianism, and a lot of 121 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: good people who should have known better were so scared 122 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: that they went along. They didn't want to be wrong. 123 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: Hard to know, very hard to know. Meanwhile, the City 124 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: of Houston City Council is busy on an ordinance that 125 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: will appear tomorrow that will prevent officers from being able 126 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: to detain any any individual with an icehold. That's the 127 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: two individuals who killed Joscelyn nunger Ay. They were released 128 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: and didn't show up to court and they killed that 129 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: little girl. How about Timothy McVeigh. They don't want moving violations, 130 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: not moving violations. That's how Timothy mcveag has got. What 131 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: would he have done next? I will reminded of the 132 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: case of Joscelyn Nungerai. They renamed the Anniwhak Forest Project 133 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: for preserve for her. It made national news. President Trump 134 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: has referenced it several times in speeches. It caught our attentions. 135 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: Young girl thin she was twelve years old. She was 136 00:08:52,559 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: mercilessly brutally raped, torture for hours, then murdered and thrown 137 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: in the value, thrown in the ditch like trash, a 138 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: discarded jolly rancher, rapper. That's what they thought of her. 139 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: That's how much they devalue this young lady, this child 140 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: of God, this kid. Those two individuals, monsters that they were, 141 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: had been encountered by officers a brief time before that. 142 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: They had been given an order to show up for 143 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: a courtnate and they didn't, So an arrest warrant is issued, 144 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: and the average Newstonian things, well, if they don't show up, 145 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: we'll go get them. You'd be shocked to know how 146 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: many people having a rest warrant for failure to appear. 147 00:09:54,640 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: Today there aren't the resources to go get them. It's 148 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: also one of the most dangerous jobs to serve warrants, 149 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: a warrant such as this for a person who knows 150 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: what they did, they know what they did, and they 151 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: know all the other things they did that we may 152 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: not know that they've done. They don't know what we know, 153 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: they don't know what the police know, but they know 154 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: they may have done this three times, seven times, fifteen, 155 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: twenty five times. Serial killers will always tell you that 156 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: they committed way more murders than police are able to 157 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: track down, and police are usually skeptical because it becomes 158 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: a keeping score issue. But in many cases those are 159 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: true and we'll never know. A lot of cases get 160 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: put into the unsolved box. I saw Longino was talking 161 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: about yesterday. He said one of the numbers that shocked 162 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: him when he got to the FBI was that seventy 163 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: percent of violent crimes are committed by point five percent 164 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: of the population. That means that point five percent over 165 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: represent their demographic by one hundred and forty times. So 166 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: if a person commits a murder, there's a likelihood they've 167 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: committed another and a rape and smash and grabs and 168 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: carjackings and menacing and trespassing and arson, robbery and burglary 169 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: and so many crimes. Typically in the career of a criminal, 170 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: they escalate. They start with minor crimes, and they build 171 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: and they build and they build. And when you study 172 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: the dates and crimes that we find out about, because 173 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: so many people are victims of crime that never call 174 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: it in, and so many cases are never stitched together 175 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: because they're three miles apart, not until relatively recently, and 176 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: it's so imperfect process that we actually notice the patterns 177 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: of cases because they have a similar they have a 178 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: similar and in many cases they don't develop their MO 179 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: until they become more experience. They start to use ligatures 180 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: to choke someone out rather than a gun which has 181 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: a sound. They start to do certain things chloroform to 182 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: incapacitate the person, or waiting in a certain place, in 183 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: a certain manner at a certain time, using certain tools, 184 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: identifying certain victims. So because their MO has not yet 185 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: developed into what will become their signature, those cases aren't connected. 186 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: You got officers shown up overwhelmed. I've never known of 187 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: a police department that wasn't overwhelmed, especially in major urban department. 188 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: Talked to a lot of police officers over the years, 189 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: and one of the things that comes up again and 190 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: again is how they go in and every day they're 191 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: facing hundreds, if not thousands, of cases individually, and then 192 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: you've got that cold case out there that everybody. So 193 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: it's a question of where do you spend your time. 194 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: Of course that's true for you too, isn't it. You 195 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: got your closets that need to be rearranged, your garage 196 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: that need to be rearranged, your car needs to be 197 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: cleaned out. You need to go see your grandmother before 198 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: she dies, and she's getting worse and worse, but you're 199 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: going to put it off because you need to get 200 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: this project done, and you want to get the weeding 201 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: done out of the beds in the garden. You've got 202 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: so many things to do, which one gets your priority. 203 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: Whatever does get your party, even if it's at your best, 204 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: it's still only going to make a dent in all 205 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: of that. So these officers can't keep up, which means 206 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: that we have to maximize their effectiveness, which to be 207 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: very efficient with their time, so that when an officer 208 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: interacts with an illegal alien we need, and that person 209 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: is here illegally. Now they've committed another crime. They're not 210 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: walking along the street being illegal, they're committing a crime, 211 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: often a very serious crime. So when officers detain them, 212 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: that's the moment they have to be handed over to 213 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: kick them out of this country. Houston City Council doesn't 214 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: want that to happen. Why why would you not want 215 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: that to happen. For so many years we've heard, you know, 216 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: we understand the legal immigration is a problem, but it's 217 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: we're going to have a comprehensive approach. Anytime you ever 218 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: hear the word comprehensive from a politician's mouth or an 219 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: activist or the media, understand that what they're doing is 220 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: saying the complicate. The situation is so complicated, Aramon, that 221 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: we can't possibly tackle it. It's so complicated that what 222 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: we need to do before we before we try to 223 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: take any measure to solve it, what we need to 224 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: do is we need to stir up every activist in 225 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: every field and get them all organized until finally you 226 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: get all the Democrats in lockstep and pick off enough 227 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: Republicans and then we'll never do anything. But we'll talk 228 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: about it will campaign on it. That's your balanced budget. Oh, yes, 229 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: we're going to balance the budget. We're going to have 230 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: a balanced budget. Amendment. Republicans are doing it again. It's 231 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: primary season. We're going to cut property taxes. Yes, I 232 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: believe you. I've believed you the last five election cycles 233 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: when you told me that, I'm so stupid. I keep 234 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: believing you. You're going to cut property taxes, of course 235 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: you are. You're not going to replace it with any 236 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: revenue source, because to suggest that you're going to replace 237 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: it with the revenue source would be to gore somebody's ox. 238 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: That would mobilize a response who you're going to attack. 239 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: We're going to put a tax on rich people. City 240 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: of New York coming out yesterday saying that they are 241 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: broke cities in the doldrums. Wow, that didn't take long 242 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: for Mom Donny, did it. We went from everything's going 243 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: to be free to we're going to have to impose 244 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: a tax on the rich people. And somewhere there's a 245 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: rich person who thought it would be cute to support 246 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: Mom Donnie, and I hope they take everything he's got. 247 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: Locked and. 248 00:15:51,040 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 5: Loaded wheels were stolen off of several HPD squad vehicles overnight. 249 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: Officers showed up today. They are working tirelessly to figure 250 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: out who did this. So this is the mischief that 251 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: Houston City Council is engaged in. They want to emasculate 252 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: our police department. They don't want the murderers, rapists, and 253 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: pedophiles caught and kicked out. It's as simple as that. 254 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: I'd respect them, nor if they'd just come out and 255 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: say it. For years we heard from the left, Yes, 256 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: we need to solve the problem. We need a comprehensive approach. 257 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: We need a compassionate approach. We need all the stakeholders 258 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: to speak forward, to come forward. We need to buy 259 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: in from everybody. Well, let me ask you this. If 260 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: you decide you're going after the gangs, you're going to 261 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: shut the gangs down to the gangs committed too many crimes, 262 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: murdering people, raping people, running drugs, intimidating people, destroying lives, 263 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: ruining neighborhoods. If you decide you're going to do that, 264 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: multiple choice. Do you think that a the gang's going 265 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: to hold a parade in your honor and say thank 266 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: you for shutting us down. We're not enjoying our livelihoods anyway. 267 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: B The gangs will pretend they don't notice and hope 268 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: you don't get any wind in your sales or c. 269 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: The gangs are going to claim that you're racist or 270 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: d once you start gutting their ranks, they're going to 271 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: fight back in every way possible. That's what we're seeing 272 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: when you actually get down to it. And what Trump 273 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: has done is in a way that the Republicans never 274 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: would have, so you never forced the issue. What you're 275 00:17:54,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: finally getting down to is the left saying we don't 276 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: want them removed, period, end of story. We don't want 277 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: them removed. We're at the point now I say, you know, 278 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: if they were just taking the really bad guys of 279 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: violent criminals, that'd be fine. But these are all right. 280 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna go one by one. We're gonna film it. 281 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna be on live TV. The entire country is 282 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: gonna take some time off. We're gonna watch. We're going 283 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: in right now for mister five names, and he's got 284 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: six pedophile arrest fourteen rapes of four murders, and this 285 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: is where he lives. We're going in to get him. 286 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: You know what they're gonna say, Wait, a second. He's 287 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: a husband and a father, he's got kids and a wife. 288 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: He's got a job at the restaurant. The mafia always 289 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: ran affront of having a job as well. And some 290 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: of these people don't make a living with their crime. 291 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: They just do it because they're criminals. Every country has criminals. 292 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: What we've become is the all Star of crime, the 293 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: All Star crime team. We're getting the worst of El Salvador, 294 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: the worst of Honduras, the worst of Guatemala, the worst 295 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: of Mexico, the worst of Asia, of Haiti, we're getting 296 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: the worst of the worst, probably Jabooty from the Horn 297 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: of Africa, the worst of the worst of the Horn 298 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: of Africa, the worst of Somalia. Of course they're all. 299 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: What we're getting is the worst of the worst. In 300 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: Bongina's point, to Bongino's point, it doesn't take very many 301 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: bad guys until you see a dramatic rise in crime. 302 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: The United States witness a twenty percent decline in twenty 303 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: twenty five in violent crimes, the lowest crime rate in 304 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: the last twenty five years for violent crimes. It made 305 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: a difference. Why because Trump once Trump started going after 306 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: the bad guys, and they were in fear of deportation. 307 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: They didn't strut around like Banny Roosters and peacocks committing crimes. 308 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: They went underground. They're waiting him out. They know at 309 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: some point he has to leave, and they don't want 310 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: to be kicked out. They don't want to be sent 311 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 1: to the max security prison in El Salvadore because they 312 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: know they're not coming back from that. They don't want 313 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: to be there. They don't want to be captured. So 314 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: they went quiet. So the people they were going to 315 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: murder are walking around free and don't even know it. 316 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: Houston Police Officers Union issued the following statement to Council 317 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: members Esteemed council members. This is from Doug Griffithy, president 318 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: of the He's the Police Officers Union as the president 319 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: of the largest police union in the state. I'm somewhat 320 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: dismayed by some of the comments I heard at City 321 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: Council this week. The group Texas Civil Rights Project met 322 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: with me and several of my board members and had 323 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: a very long discussion over this very topic. Their entire 324 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: goal was to stop HPD from conducting traffic stops for 325 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: non moving offenses. You know what that means, That means 326 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: if you don't have a license plate, they won't stop you. 327 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: Oh why do we need to stop people don't have 328 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: a license plate? Do you know? The first thing people 329 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: do that are going on a crime spree they take 330 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: the license plate off because once you get a tag 331 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: on that license plate and they get a match, they 332 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: take the license plate off. So you can't call in 333 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: the license plate and know who owns that car, because 334 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: there are only two things that are going to happen. Either 335 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: you know that car belongs to Crol Eugene Watts, and 336 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: he's a serial killer. And that's the guy you've been 337 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: looking for, and now he's right in front of you, 338 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: you know, because you just called in and they ran 339 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: the plate or or that plate attached to a car 340 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: that's behaving oddly comes back for a two for a 341 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: blue Toyota Corolla and this is a ninety eight Cadillac 342 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: with curve feelers on it. Oh, they stole someone's plates. 343 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: Why would you steal someone's plates and put it on 344 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: your car? Do you do that? You are you driving 345 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: a vehicle with plates that don't belong to a car 346 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: that doesn't belong to you? No, because you're not worried 347 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: about your plates being run because you're not in the 348 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: middle of a crime enterprise but they are. Or or 349 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,719 Speaker 1: if the plate is on there and they call it 350 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: in they get a hit. Oh, this is a stolen car. 351 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: I had a minimum. We have to stop that person 352 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: now because we know that people commit crimes and solen 353 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: cars because even if they do own a car, they 354 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: don't want their car because if their car with that make, model, description, color, 355 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: and plate gets a hit from the cops, then they 356 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: know that's old John Smith that lives at one twenty 357 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: three Main Apartment four oh eight. They just go there 358 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: and arrest him. Now, you and I know that's not 359 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: really where he lives. That's where one of his baby 360 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: mamas does. He's laid up with another one. But you 361 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: can at least lay eyes on that location. He might work, 362 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: have her worked into the rotation. You know, she's his 363 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: Tuesday night thing. You remember that scene in Roadhouse Romon. 364 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: He had that one waiter, a kind of pretty boy 365 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: waiter who is nothing but problems or server, barback, bartend 366 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: or whatever it was. And he kicks in the liquor 367 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: room and the dude's in there and he's got to 368 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: grow up in and yeah, you gonna lie raiders did not they. 369 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: So we've got the Houston City Council desperately trying to 370 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: handcuff our police because they don't want bad guys here 371 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: out on the loose, and HPD or the boots on 372 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: the ground, we got to stop them from catching the 373 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: murderers because we want the murderers rapists. You probably got 374 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: Rodney running this operation from his office, truth be told. 375 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: Zeb Grippers letter to the Houston City Council continues. He's 376 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: the head of the Houston Police official union. The President 377 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: Civil Rights Project met with me and several of my 378 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: board members had a very long discussion about this very topic. 379 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: Their entire goal was to stop HPD from conducting traffic 380 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: stops for non moving offenses. We just talked about why 381 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: you need those traffic stops. Most murderers and rapists, by 382 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: the way, are not caught in the commission of a 383 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: murder or rape. They're caught because they're part of a 384 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: criminal enterprise and they're sloppy. They don't have a license 385 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: plate because they've taken it off, they have stolen play, 386 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: and their acting odd. They're weaving in the middle of 387 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: the streets. They caught Ted Bundy, serial killer in Aspen 388 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: after he escaped from jail, because he was driving down 389 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: Main Street and little tiny Aspen and didn't appear to 390 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: be able to keep it between the lines. That's how 391 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: they caught him. This is an important part of police 392 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: work and it is very necessary for officers to conduct 393 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: traffic stops, even for minor offenses. While speaking with the group, 394 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: they began to toss out numbers that were completely inaccurate 395 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: and they were unable to provide real numbers. They make 396 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: assumptions that all traffic stops are racially motivated and that 397 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: too many times ended violence against the driver. Being that 398 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: HPD was one of the largest organizations to purchase body 399 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: warned cameras and put them on every officer should prove 400 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: that we want to be transparent and open with our citizens. 401 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: It was the HPOU that called for body camera videos 402 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: to be released as soon as possible an all officer 403 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: involve shootings and critical incidents that one blew up in 404 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: the Left's hands like that flash bang in the illegal 405 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: alien protester the other day. They wanted body cams. They 406 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: wanted these awful officers to be filmed all the time 407 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: HPD two chiefs to GOO issued a directive that if 408 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: an officer engaged a suspect or a citizen for that matter, 409 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: if the lights were turned on, if a stop was made, 410 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: if a license was pulled, the officer's body cam had 411 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: to turn on every single time every interaction film. Do 412 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: you have any idea how awful that would be for 413 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: you to go through that kind of scrutiny, to live 414 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 1: in that kind of panopticon fish bowl? Be horrible? But 415 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: they did it. It did not prove police brutality. Quite 416 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: the opposite. It proved that every time one of these 417 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: activists or the media stir up the mess and bring 418 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: in Ben Crump and this person had this happen, and 419 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: this person had this happen, it turns out no, actually 420 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: quite the opposite. We're going to find out a lot 421 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: more about this pretty boy in Minneapolis and what he 422 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: did a few days before when he kicked the tail 423 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: light out of a department, out of an ice vehicle 424 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: and spat on them about how his girlfriend had dumped 425 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: him because he'd been radicalized, how his parents tried to 426 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: have an intervention because he'd been radicalized, how he wasn't 427 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: a nurse at all anymore, he'd left that job. He's 428 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: a gorilla warfare warrior. He was looking for this while 429 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: speaking with the group. Sorry. The fact that HPD makes 430 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: over two billion contacts a year with citizens and have 431 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: fewer than two hundred and fifty citizen complaints on average 432 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: should speak volumes. Austin has only fourteen hundred officers and 433 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: they average one thousand citizen complaints a year. This is 434 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: an amazing stat since it is easier to complain on 435 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: an officer now than any time in our past. A 436 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: citizen can complain online in person through the naacp LU 437 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: LAC and they don't even have to swear to it 438 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: like in the past. Every internal affairs case is investigating 439 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: unless they can be immediately dismissed by that bodycam video. 440 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: We have a very robust and active Citizen Review Board 441 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: and Administrative Discipline Committee that makes recommendations to the Chief 442 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: of Police on every sustained IAD that's internal affairs investigation 443 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: and all use of force investigations. All of this being said, 444 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: officers use minor violations as probable cause for many of 445 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: the crimes that we solve in our city. If individuals 446 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: or groups don't like the laws as they are, they 447 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: should go to Austin and change them. A city council 448 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: should not be trying to circumvent state law just to 449 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: satisfy a small group of vocal, but inaccurate individuals or groups. 450 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: The Houston Police Officer Union will not support any ordinance 451 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: or any council member that would want to diminish the 452 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: ability of our officers to take offenders off the streets 453 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: of Houston. Let's work together to keep Houston safe. Officers 454 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: can tell you and law enforcement experts know that the 455 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: way you catch bad guys is not a bad guy investigation. 456 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 1: You catch them because you interact with them and ask 457 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: for their license and they run, or you interact with 458 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: them because they have a tail light out. I saw 459 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: a stat that over eighty percent of people with a 460 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 1: tail light out find out they have a tail light 461 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: out when they're pulled over by an officer. Ninety nine 462 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: percent of people go on their way. One percent of 463 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: people start to run or have their license pulled, and 464 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: they call for backup and they arrest the bad guy. 465 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: That's how you catch bad guys. That's policing work. It's 466 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: not pretty. There's stumbling on it. There's bumbling on it, 467 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: there's interacting with it, there's dumb luck. But if you 468 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: take away the ability of HPD to do such things, 469 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: you will reduce the number of bad guys caught, and 470 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: you will reduce the closed cases dramatically. And that's exactly 471 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: what certain members of Houston City Council want. Twila Carter 472 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: is a member of the Houston Police Department. She's our guests. 473 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: She just called in, welcome to the program. Oh did 474 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: I say, please produce the city Council? 475 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 7: You did? You said, police Department. I'm not a member. 476 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: I here by deputat you. 477 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 7: I said, you know what, I certainly support HPD, and 478 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 7: I just I was listening to you this morning, and 479 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 7: I listened to you often, and I just wanted to 480 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 7: say thank you for you know, bringing this up. And 481 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 7: certainly I've seen the letter from Doug Griffith, and you're 482 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 7: exactly right and what you're saying. And you know, I 483 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 7: got pulled over for being a single car on the 484 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 7: Metro on the HOV by the way before the hour, 485 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 7: So I. 486 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: Get it today, not today. 487 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 7: Now today, I've got. 488 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: What was the nature of it? 489 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 7: Well, because the nature of my crime was I was 490 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 7: on a H O V lane before the eight o'clock 491 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 7: hour as a single driver, a single car, single passenger. 492 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 7: You see times well they you know, they didn't ask 493 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 7: me that. They just saw that I was the only 494 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 7: person in the car and so they pulled me over 495 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 7: and so, you know, people get stopped. But I also 496 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 7: to you know, yesterday I spoke out about I think 497 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 7: the media sensationalizes things and you know, clearly, you know 498 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 7: they're they're they're adding it's they're adding fear, the fear 499 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 7: factor to the community and necessarily and. 500 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: The city council twilight, who is the one pushing to 501 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: handcuff the police. 502 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 7: Well, you know, I think you probably are aware that 503 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 7: former council member Letitia Palmer, who's she's now running for 504 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 7: county judge, she was looking to to you know, rearrange 505 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 7: HPDs workflow. Kind of a nice way to put it. 506 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 7: But I don't, I don't. You can, I can speculate, 507 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,959 Speaker 7: but I don't rightfully know because they don't. You know, 508 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 7: no one's come to me and asked me if I 509 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 7: would support it, because the answer would be clearly no. 510 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 7: You know, look in the eyes of Joscelyn Nungare's mother 511 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 7: and have a conversation with her and tell her that, 512 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 7: you know, uh, we're gonna if those two murderers had 513 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 7: had been stopped, we could just look the other way. 514 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 7: I mean, there are two sides to this deal, right, 515 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 7: and I think we need to respect that HPD is 516 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 7: working as HPD should and not try to try to, 517 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 7: like I said, rearrange their workflow. 518 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: As I understand it, this would prevent hp This would 519 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: this would prevent uh non moving violations. And I called 520 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: a former chief from another municipality, and that would mean 521 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: license plates. That would mean all the things that officers 522 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: use that are often part and parcel of the commission 523 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: of a crime, the license plate stuff among them. What 524 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: else does this do or I don't know if you've 525 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: seen the proposed ordinance yet. 526 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 7: I have not seen the proposed ordinance. I've just seen 527 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 7: Doug's letter, you know, the union's letter. But you know, 528 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 7: I mean, if I'm if I'm a car moving about 529 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 7: without a license tag displayed, is that okay? I mean, 530 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 7: you know, is that Am I now free to move 531 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 7: about the country, you know, circumventing anything? 532 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 3: You know? 533 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 1: And I'm saying me, Tyler, you know as well as 534 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: I do this, this is about reducing deportations of violent criminals. 535 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: Whole with me, just moment, twilet Carter, Houston City Council members. 536 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: I guess