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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by call Light a health.

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Speaker 1: All right, One Bills Live on a Monday. How are

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Speaker 1: you doing. We are one week away from heading out

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Combine, first road trip of the year.

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Speaker 1: After our Monday show. Next week we'll be on the

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Speaker 1: road to India. But that's a little down the line.

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Speaker 1: We will have some Combine coverage here today. We'll get

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Speaker 1: into what that is in just a second before we

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Speaker 1: dive headlong into that stuff. Though Steve had a rather

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Speaker 1: adventurous weekend, I had a weekend that was a little

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Speaker 1: bit less so. But you're survived your winter camping expedition. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I did with the four boys. I had my four sons,

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Speaker 1: ages between thirty five and twenty five, all just about

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Speaker 1: twenty five, the four of them and me. We do

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Speaker 1: it every year. We go out and we camp out.

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Speaker 1: Everybody likes to camp in the summertime, and it's all

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Speaker 1: fun and stuff, you know, car camp or whatever. Backpack.

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Speaker 1: We backpack into the Adirondacks and we stayed three nights

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Speaker 1: at a place nearby, a place called Chimney Rock, which

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Speaker 1: is about a half hour from Speculator, New York, in

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Speaker 1: the wilderness and it's you know, at this time of year,

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Speaker 1: win our camp so it's just us. So a couple

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Speaker 1: of cold nights camp fire in a state state park,

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Speaker 1: Lean too, and it was pretty awesome, good stuff, a

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Speaker 1: lot of you know, it was cold. And I'm here

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Speaker 1: to tell you you can have all of that. I

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Speaker 1: have zero interest. Yeah you need to. There's the picture

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Speaker 1: of the guys. If they're you know, a radio listeners

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Speaker 1: can't see it. Obviously. Steve's got the red cap. Yeah

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Speaker 1: that that red cap is actually a present from Murph.

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Speaker 1: That's nice, Yeah, buddy. So those are my four boys

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Speaker 1: from the left to right. It's Luke Tap, Deacon Jake

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Speaker 1: and myself. Five of us were and we were up

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Speaker 1: there for about from Thursday uh till um Sunday night

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Speaker 1: and it was a couple of cold night. Friday night

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Speaker 1: how good did it feel to hit the coffeemaker button

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Speaker 1: this morning getting ready for work. You have no idea

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Speaker 1: how much you appreciate life after spending four days in

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Speaker 1: the wilderness civilization, because you know, for those of you know,

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Speaker 1: Hamlin was at the game. Oh yeah, he was sitting

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Speaker 1: him to a two year deal. So it's obvious that

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Speaker 1: the pro personnel department sees some potential that they believe

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Speaker 1: is worth developing with the coaching staff, and maybe he's

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Speaker 1: a regular on special teams his first year here, and

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Speaker 1: maybe if he makes enough progress, he can find a

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Speaker 1: Or maybe that's what he is. It's maybe he's safety

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Speaker 1: depth and a special team's contribute. It's always comforting when

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Speaker 1: you've got a guy who's done it before for somebody else,

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Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie free agent showing up and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden gets thrust into the lineup. That's that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of angst, yeah, in that, in that decision,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes you got to do it. The more guys

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Speaker 1: you've got on the field who at least you know

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Speaker 1: where their floor is and maybe have potential to get better,

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Speaker 1: the better it makes you feel about your whole roster,

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Speaker 1: even if even if the guy never plays right. So

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Speaker 1: it's it's one of those situations where he didn't play

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City for a reason. We'll see what happens

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Speaker 1: when he comes to Buffalo. Let's go around the NFL,

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Speaker 1: which is presented by kalid to Health, the official healthcare

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Speaker 1: system of the Buffalo Bills. The biggest news is will

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Speaker 1: the first shoe drop on the quarterback carousel. It might

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Speaker 1: x Raiders Q Derek Carr met with the Jets late

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Speaker 1: last week. It's stretched into the weekend, and reports out

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Speaker 1: of New York are they could see Derek Carr as

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Speaker 1: a match for their organization. They think very highly of him,

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Speaker 1: And I will submit to you this, Steve. I think

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Speaker 1: everybody in the league has seen enough of Derek Carr

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Speaker 1: to know what he is as a quarterback, what he

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Speaker 1: is capable of. Do you think that his skill set

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Speaker 1: with a top five defense makes him look even better

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Speaker 1: as a quarterback for his respective team, Because the first

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Speaker 1: thing I think of, if I'm thinking him of him

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Speaker 1: as a Jets quarterback, is this. For the last five

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Speaker 1: years he's played for a Raiders team as a defense

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Speaker 1: can't stop anybody. So every week he's going out on

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Speaker 1: the field saying, I gotta put up thirty for us

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Speaker 1: to have a chance to win. He goes to New York,

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Speaker 1: he puts up twenty four. He's probably winning the football

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Speaker 1: game with that defense. Yeah, it's interesting because when I

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Speaker 1: don't know that a quarterback goes out there because I've

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Speaker 1: I've said the same thing. I don't think a quarterback

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Speaker 1: goes out there thinking, hey, I got to score thirty.

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Speaker 1: They talk about it during the week of what they're

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Speaker 1: gonna do, and every weekend, week out they talking that

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Speaker 1: you see the big picture about what your defense is

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Speaker 1: doing and how they're struggling. But I don't know that

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Speaker 1: there's a quarterback out there doesn't want to throw it,

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Speaker 1: you know, get the touchdown every drive. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it does put pressure on you in the

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Speaker 1: game plan and say, hey, we've got to make sure

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Speaker 1: you So maybe in the course of a game, he'll say,

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Speaker 1: I gotta take this check down and make sure we

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Speaker 1: get the first down. You know, I got to make

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Speaker 1: sure we do this, and you kind of play a

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Speaker 1: little bit more conservatively knowing that your defense is gonna

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Speaker 1: have a hard time keeping them out of the end zone.

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Speaker 1: But I think that really falls on your coaching staff

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Speaker 1: more than it does a quarterback or anybody else. They've

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Speaker 1: got to call a game that gives your team a chance,

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Speaker 1: and I think the coaching staff feels more of that

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Speaker 1: pressure than even the quarterback would of having to go

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Speaker 1: out there and score thirty, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And I think like a crew like Salo's got in

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Speaker 1: New York Robert Salo, the head coach of the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Those guys would have him come in and they'll say, listen,

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Speaker 1: we can work with this guy, right, They'll it'll give

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Speaker 1: them more confidence, say, Okay, finally we got a little

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Speaker 1: bit of consistency back there rather than nothing. Right, So

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Speaker 1: I think it gives the whole organization an uplift. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Car's not an elite quarterback, but he's good. He's definitely

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Speaker 1: above average. Oh yeah, he's somebody you can you gotta

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Speaker 1: feel confident about all you put Derek. Here's here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: You put Derek Carr at the quarterback of the Jets,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the Jets are looking in

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Speaker 1: someplace else to improve. Yeah, for the first time in

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Speaker 1: how many decades? Right time. That puts them in a

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Speaker 1: position finally in New York where they're like they're in

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Speaker 1: a different spot then they've been in a long time.

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Speaker 1: They say, Okay, well, where else can we tweak it

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Speaker 1: a little bit? Because the Jets are pretty good roster, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean we're talking on defense and they have talent

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Speaker 1: on offer. They fix the offensive line and get the

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Speaker 1: quarterback positions right. So maybe we'd grab an alignment, you

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Speaker 1: know in the draft, another alignment because they've got Vera

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Speaker 1: Tucker over there, is that right? They drafted Vera Tucker

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Speaker 1: first round pick. Becton was out all last year and

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Speaker 1: he has been labeled a bust, but he came in

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Speaker 1: highly motivated this last year, was playing a little better.

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Speaker 1: I understood before he got hurt. He missed almost the

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Speaker 1: whole year, right, So I don't. Yes, the offensive line

518
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Speaker 1: for them needs to be revamped and bolstered. And they

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Speaker 1: got like three guys on their starting offensive line who

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Speaker 1: are free agents, so they got some work. They got

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Speaker 1: some work to do there. But at least they can

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Speaker 1: do that. No, when they got a guy and they

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Speaker 1: can throw everything at it, get some guys to come

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Speaker 1: in and compete. I think that's a really interesting thing.

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Speaker 1: I think Derek carr Man, can you imagine they might

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Speaker 1: throw a ticker tape parade they sign him, because it's

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Speaker 1: been so long since have it anybody of note? I

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Speaker 1: think the vast majority of Jets fans always want to

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Speaker 1: shoot for the moon. So I think they've all got

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson on the brain. Whether he's available via trade

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Speaker 1: or not. It's been written in the papers down there

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Speaker 1: and they're all like, oh, yeah, let's get Lamar. So

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Speaker 1: if they get Derek Carr instead of Lamar, and I

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Speaker 1: might go over like a lead balloon. The expectations of

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Speaker 1: Jets fans. The same thing with you know, with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: He did he come out of the cave yet? Uh?

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Speaker 1: He may have. I don't know if he's still rubbing

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Speaker 1: his eyes or he's come to any relation he comes.

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Speaker 1: That guy can't go anywhere. I mean to me, the

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Speaker 1: packers are ready to move yeah, and word out of

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Speaker 1: Green Bay as they might be done with him. I

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Speaker 1: get it like they're just tired of his garbage. That's fine.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that you know, they're getting so much pushed because

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Speaker 1: let's face that every every organization has two different sides,

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Speaker 1: the business side and the football side, right, and the

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Speaker 1: business side kind of lives off the ball side obviously,

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Speaker 1: but there are some things where the business side can

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Speaker 1: take present, most notably with the cap and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: And if the football side comes to the business side

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Speaker 1: and say, man, this guy's wearing us out, and the

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Speaker 1: business side might go, well, if we work some things,

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Speaker 1: it might help us. Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So let's find out about Jordan Love. Get what we

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Speaker 1: can for Aaron on the market, and let's move on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm That's where I'd be. I don't have any

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Speaker 1: problem with the Packers saying, you know what we're we

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Speaker 1: don't want to go down the Bay nine. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think he can still play, but for how much

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Speaker 1: longer he's one year removing. No, he does all these

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Speaker 1: offseason body cleanses, but I don't know if he's I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he takes care of himself the way

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Speaker 1: we saw Tom Brady take care of himself to lengthen

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Speaker 1: his career. So thirty nine might not be Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: thirty nine if you know what I'm saying. And he's

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Speaker 1: only one year removed from back to back MVPs, right,

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Speaker 1: so he can still play. He can still play, There's

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Speaker 1: no question about it. It's just I think I think

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Speaker 1: there are certain places where Aaron Rodgers doesn't fit. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he fits in New York. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing for me. If I'm the Packers, if

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Speaker 1: I he's got it, does he have no trade or not?

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Speaker 1: If you have to check, I don't think. I don't

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Speaker 1: think anything. I Packers are like I, Aaron, we love you,

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Speaker 1: but you are not a factor in this and you

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Speaker 1: don't have them to say we're trading you. We're trading

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Speaker 1: you to whatever team. Thanks for stopping by. I love you.

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Speaker 1: You can come back and retire as a packer in

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Speaker 1: twenty four months. Yeah, that's where it should be. I

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Speaker 1: mean I used to be a player, but I understood

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Speaker 1: to be outset. Well, if they're gonna make a business

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Speaker 1: decision the way I feel about, it's irrelevant, right, And

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Speaker 1: that's the way it should be, even for great players,

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Speaker 1: and that's why it rarely ends great. It ends well

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Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, we have to take a break here,

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Speaker 1: but we do want to pass along our topic of

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Speaker 1: discussion for you today at eight oh three five fifty

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Speaker 1: one fifty two five fifty give us one prize player

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Speaker 1: who you think the Bills will resign and one surprise

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Speaker 1: player that you think will depart from this roster this offseason.

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Speaker 1: Eight three five fifty one eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty the number to get on boarder hit us

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Speaker 1: up on the tweet sheet to one Bills Live Steve

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Speaker 1: and Chris with you on a Monday. We're back in

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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes stay two. All right, here we

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Speaker 1: be one Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you

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Speaker 1: here on a Monday, Happy President's State. Everybody. By the way,

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Speaker 1: if you're enjoying the day off at home, live it up.

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Speaker 1: You got a four day work week. But we are

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Speaker 1: asking you at eight o three five fifty give us

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Speaker 1: one surprise player that you think the Bills will resign

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Speaker 1: and one surprise player that you think departs off this roster.

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Speaker 1: I guess an example last year might be Cole Beasley

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Speaker 1: being moved off the roster. I'm trying to think of

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Speaker 1: like a surprise resign last year. Maybe it's Jordan Phillips,

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Speaker 1: maybe bringing back Jordan Phillips. I was thinking something like that,

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Speaker 1: or a Shack Lawson. Yeah. I think the answers might

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Speaker 1: be different this time around. And we go to the

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Speaker 1: phones where we do have an open line for you

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Speaker 1: at eighth three five fifty one, eight fifty two, five

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Speaker 1: fifty the number to get on board, but we lead

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Speaker 1: off with Tia in Livonia. Yeah for us to you,

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Speaker 1: You're all one Bill's Live. Hi, Hellottle Beard, Tasker boy,

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Speaker 1: I love you all the way back during Jim Kelly era.

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Speaker 1: Thank you now, you're welcome. My surprise keeper would be poorer.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see him go my surprise goodbye,

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Speaker 1: von Miller, and I'm gonna tell you why. Wow, I

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Speaker 1: think the guy was greatness. Heyday, he's old even though

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Speaker 1: I'm sixty one and he's young to me. That season end,

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Speaker 1: an injury killed us big time, and I think he

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Speaker 1: was a waste of money. Nice guy. I'm sorry he

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Speaker 1: got injured, but get some young, cheap legs to take

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Speaker 1: over for him, and I will hang up now and

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Speaker 1: listen to you guys. Thank you all right, Thanks, appreciate it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting Tia lists Poyer as a surprise keeper because

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Speaker 1: she doesn't want to see him go, which you know

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Speaker 1: is probably a pretty popular opinion. He is a fan favorite,

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Speaker 1: there is no doubt about it. But I think there

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Speaker 1: is the general consensus among the fan base that it

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Speaker 1: would be a very fortunate situation if they could find

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Speaker 1: a way to keep Jordan Poyer in the fold. Knowing

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Speaker 1: a last season he wanted more money in his contract.

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Speaker 1: All the Bills could really do was put incentives in

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Speaker 1: his current deal in an effort to help him make

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Speaker 1: more money. And then he missed five games due to

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Speaker 1: injury and probably didn't hit any of those incentives. So

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Speaker 1: to that a guy who is looking for top of

637
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: the market money at his position fitting back here into

638
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: the fold where the Bills have to be maybe more

639
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: fiscally responsible than ever seems unlikely, and I think fans

640
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: are wise to that. So yeah, I would. I would

641
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: classify him as a surprise keeper. Be great if they could,

642
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: but I think it would be a surprise to a

643
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: lot of people. Yeah, finding a way to keep him

644
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: would be a surprise, and not that he would. You know,

645
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: he didn't play well last year. When he was in

646
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: there the team, he was a rock steady, rock steady

647
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: safety once again. Even on the film we're seeing now

648
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: as you see him walk out the tunnel, he's got

649
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: that stinking elbow brace on that makes it makes him

650
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: look like some sort of transformer. He had to play

651
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: with that for the entire year, along with all the

652
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: other stuff that happened to him. It was a rough

653
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: season for him physically, and he battled through it like

654
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: a champ, and the Bills they were better with him

655
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: on the field. There's no question about it. Both tangibly

656
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: and intangibly. He's A. He's a plus. He's an all

657
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: Pro caliber player who had a rough season with injuries

658
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: at a stage in his career where you don't like

659
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: to see that. And it's tough to because it would

660
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: be no matter how much you love the guy, it

661
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: would be a roll of the dice to give him

662
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: top safety money for any extended amount of time at

663
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: age thirty two, at age at his age. That doesn't

664
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: say that he's not going to come back and have

665
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: another all Pro season for you this next year. He could,

666
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: or it is a matter of what you can afford.

667
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: They're going to really have to be judicious and how

668
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: they distribute their cap dollars, which would bring us to

669
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: Von Miller. Hutia believes would be a surprise cut. I

670
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: don't see it because of the cap hit that you

671
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: would incur. He just signed a six year, one hundred

672
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: twenty million dollar contract the last year, led the team

673
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: in sacks even though he missed the last six games,

674
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: tied for the team lead with Greig Rousseau with eight.

675
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: If you released him, it would be a forty million

676
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: dollar cap hit. It's just not going to happen. You

677
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: are right to you. He is getting up there in age.

678
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: He will be thirty four this season. He's still pretty

679
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: dang good though. He's very good, and he played very

680
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 1: well when he was in there. This year he got

681
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: an I don't want to say no non contact injury,

682
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: but a very incus innocuous play that he got hurt.

683
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: He took a misstep on the play in the Detroit

684
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: on the outside of his knee from a player landing

685
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: on him, and it just kind of tweaked it. It

686
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: was not an unbelievably catastrophic injury. It was a tough injury.

687
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: He didn't fully tear his ACL. It was damaged, but

688
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: not fully torn. And there's no reason to think that

689
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: he's not going to come back and play extremely well

690
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: this season. Now, if he if he can't make it

691
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: through the entire season, or if his play tails off

692
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: because of his age, you got to leave that up

693
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: to the player, to the coaching staff and the medical

694
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: staff to say, listen, let's pace him through the first

695
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: part of the regular season. This use him in the

696
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: playoffs when we need him. That kind of thing. They'll

697
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: get that, they'll get that right. But if he's gonna

698
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: come back and he's gonna you know, now, he's got

699
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: a hamstring that is bothering him, and I can't play

700
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 1: for that. You know, this kind of stuff, the nagging stuff,

701
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: tends to be the thing that nobody has patience for,

702
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: including players. So I don't think you can make that

703
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: assumption with a guy like von Miller that he's not

704
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: going to come back and play extremely well for you,

705
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: even these advanced age because he was playing so at

706
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: such a high level before he left, and it won't

707
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: have been that long when he comes back yea be

708
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: like getting back on a bike. And because his knee

709
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: was only partially torn, it's anticipated that the recovery will

710
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: be pretty much on schedule and that he should not

711
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: incur any setbacks. So cross your fingers on that. And

712
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: Tatia's point about saying, oh, just have some young players

713
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: come up and fill the void, well, they had six

714
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 1: games to do that at the end of the season

715
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: with a JP and S and Boogie bash Him and

716
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: Greg Rousseau. And while I think bash Him flashed, particularly

717
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: at the end to the season, Rousseau played steady, but

718
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: I don't think collectively they brought the same amount of

719
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 1: impact to the pass rush that Von did all by himself.

720
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: And that's why I think he remains in the fold clearly,

721
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: not only because of the money situation, but because he's

722
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: still pretty damn good. Let's go back to the phone

723
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: into Jack and Rochester next. What do you got for us, Jack? Well,

724
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: I got a couple of surprise players. In another quick comment,

725
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: if you'll indulge me, Yeah, I think Sincletary will be

726
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: with the team next year because I just don't think

727
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: he's going to Gardner that much on the free agent

728
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: model interest. Yeah, and another thing, I'd be surprised if

729
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: Oliver doesn't get traded on draft ding. Okay, yeah, comment

730
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: is you know I could remember an interview I saw

731
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: years ago with Chan Gaily and the interviewer was quizzing

732
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: them about play calling. He's asking them questions about personnel

733
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: matchups and down a distance and what the you know,

734
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: what the defense is showing. At some point Chan interrupted,

735
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: the interviewer said, you know, all that technical stuff is

736
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: really important, but he says, a football game has a

737
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: flow to it and there's like a feel to it

738
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: at any given moment, and sometimes that's just as important

739
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: as all that technical stuff when you're calling a play.

740
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: And I think if Dorsey's going to take the next

741
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: step as a play caller. I think he's got to

742
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: build that intangible skills because when the offenses struggle, even

743
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: McDermott has mentioned then, it kind of lacks a flow.

744
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes the real advantage of having Kelly

745
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 1: called the plays at the line of scrimmage was really

746
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: that kind of feeling of a flow, as supposed to

747
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: some technical thing that he was seeing. Yeah, a rhythm

748
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: you're talking about here, Jack, Yeah, yeah, kind of an

749
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: intangible rhythm. That's that's fair. I don't dismiss that. And

750
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: thanks for the call, Jack, appreciate it. Let's dice up

751
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: his surprises first. Singletary is his surprise keeper? Ed Oliver

752
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: is his surprise departure via trade That's a good answer.

753
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: I think it is. Maddie and I actually discussed the

754
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: potential of ed Oliver as a trade option ten point

755
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: seven cap hit. We know the Bills are trying to

756
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: create cap space. He would be a way to do it.

757
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: I just think if you have any party remotely interested

758
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: in ed Oliver, I think they're gonna want assurances that

759
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: they could extend his contract so they know, hey, I'm

760
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: not just getting a rental for a year and then

761
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: the guy leaves and goes somewhere else. Right, So it

762
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: would mean the Bills would call teams, hey, we're interested

763
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: in getting moving on from and we're going to try

764
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: and we got to save some cap and we just

765
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: he's not gonna work for us. And they'll say, well,

766
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: we'll do it, and I'll say, okay, we'll give you

767
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: presermission to talk to him. So that sets an in motion.

768
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: But that is you know, that sets Oh you got

769
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: to be ready for that because when you do that,

770
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: everybody knows you're trying to trade the guy. Now it

771
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: comes out in the social media. Ed has to be told,

772
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: his representation has to be told the other team whoever

773
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: knows about it, and that building may call some other

774
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: agent all of a sudden, it's public knowledge. We're peddling

775
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: at Oliver. So if it doesn't happen, you got a

776
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: guy who knows you didn't like him. Yeah, and that's

777
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 1: a problem. And then with respect to Dorsey and developing

778
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: a rhythm as a play caller, I think the one

779
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: thing working in Dorsey's favor in that regard is having

780
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: been a quarterback himself, not just a very successful one

781
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: in the college level. But you know, he did play

782
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: in the league. Granted he was largely a backup for

783
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: the balance of his career, but he hung around for

784
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: five six years, bouncing around to different teams, getting exposure

785
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: to different offenses, and you know, getting reps at least

786
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: in the preseason where he could kind of feel and

787
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: sense rhythm as a player. I think that helps you

788
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: as a play caller. Yeah. I would say it's easier

789
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: for him to develop that because he was a player.

790
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? Absolutely no, I would

791
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: say so. Yeah, you would like to think that because

792
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: he played it and felt it, it'll even when he coaches,

793
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: he'll be able to make that transfer from the booth

794
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: down to the field. Say oh yeah, okay, I get

795
00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: how that is. There's no substitute for experience. Dorsey doesn't

796
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: have that much as an offensive coordinator. He has some

797
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: really good players and a lot of people didn't like

798
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: the way it felt last year at times, but it

799
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: was highly productive. They were number two in the league

800
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: and scoring. They got a ton of yards, They were

801
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: really good on third down, they were they were really

802
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: good offensively last year for a first year offensive coordinator.

803
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: And if you think he's going to get better, then

804
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but it's gonna be

805
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: pretty good. If you think he's gonna get worse, I

806
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: would disagree with you. I think the guy's got an

807
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: improvement kind of attitude rather than a I've got this

808
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: thing done kind of attitude. So you're right. Chan Gay

809
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: was right. The technical stuff is important, and you got

810
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: to know it. But when you're in a game and

811
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: you've got some a team, that something happens where it

812
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the technical, like this guy's

813
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 1: out of the game and that guy's out of the game.

814
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: That changes things. Whatever the numbers tell you that ain't right.

815
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. You know what I mean? That changes

816
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: things for their defense. We got them here and we're

817
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: gonna do something completely different. All that stuff is in

818
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: tangib when you gotta be ready for that. I think

819
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: back in the nineties maybe you could make an argument

820
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: because we never won the Super Bowl. It was too

821
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: much of a feel thing for Jim. Jim called his

822
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: own plays. Let's just go. He sees something, I'm just

823
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: gonna go, Let's just keep going, and I'm gonna pick

824
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: my spot and I'm gonna do it, and it's all

825
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: feel and said, I see something, I'm gonna do it.

826
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: Maybe it was a little too much of that in

827
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: the nineties, because that's what it was, to a large measure,

828
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: pretty productive, a lot of fun to watch, and tough

829
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: to beat. But it came with its own set of

830
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: parameters that you you know, that were the other edge

831
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: of that sword too, Like your defense is sitting there

832
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: defending eighty plays a game because you're on on off

833
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: the field, even if you did score a touchdown. So

834
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: it's yeah, there's a lot in there and there's no

835
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: magic wand you can wave, you gotta you gotta go

836
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: with what you got. And the way the Bills have

837
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: done it in the last recent past, they're very productive.

838
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: Break time here, Steve and I back with more on

839
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: this subject. Next here on One Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back

841
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,279
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842
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,200
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843
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: be the Bill's surprise player that resigns this offseason and

844
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: the surprise player who departs this offseason? You let us

845
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,640
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848
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: Jeff leads us off and says, surprise Stay is resigning. Poyer.

849
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: Surprise departure is Edmonds. It's too much money to invest

850
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: in two linebackers, meaning Milano and Edmonds, because Milano's already

851
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: making over ten million a year. He just doesn't Jeff

852
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: doesn't see a way where you have two ten plus

853
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: million dollars linebackers. I'll say this, though, you had two

854
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: ten plus million dollars safeties on the same roster for

855
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: a few years in poorer and Hide they make him

856
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: ten million a year, yes, each, right, really nine and

857
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 1: change or right there at ten the last couple of seasons,

858
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: because they each signed extensions over the last couple of

859
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: years and they were up in that area. So I'm

860
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: not saying they're going to do that at linebacker, but

861
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: I suppose if you make some cost cutting maneuvers elsewhere,

862
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: it's possible. Yeah, Tremaine is a really interesting player because

863
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: he's so young and so experienced and seems still even

864
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: this year to be on the ascension, better every year,

865
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: better every year. He's twenty five and he has been

866
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: the lynchpin of a Bill's defense. Has been a top

867
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: five defense for what four of his five years or

868
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: three of his four years, No, four of his five

869
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: years he started coming right out of the shoot, So

870
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: four of his five years they are a top five defense.

871
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: He's in the middle of it. And let me just

872
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: tell you, I know, Bills fans are polarized by him.

873
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: We love the guy. He's a sweetheart of a guy,

874
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: but they don't know about that position, making that kind

875
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: of money, and what everybody's expectations about him, or it

876
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: seemed to be a little bit different, you know what

877
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: I mean. Let me just say this. You talked to

878
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: coaching staffs on other teams. They covet him. They all

879
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: want Tremaine Edmonds on their team. They want him. They

880
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: think he is just a mess to try and play against.

881
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, Bills fans don't see that. Other teams

882
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: seem to just think, God Lee, that guy's we need

883
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: a guy like that, We need him, we need a

884
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: guy so and it's hard for Bills fans to see that.

885
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes times as much as we like him, love him,

886
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: and as well as he has played, particularly this year,

887
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,479
Speaker 1: better every year, better, every year, better every year until

888
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: this year he's a first team Pro Bowler. What do

889
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: you do? Yeah, it's tough. You know, it's hard because,

890
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: as we were talking about late last week, it's clear

891
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: the positions that the Bills consider premium positions wide receiver, cornerback, quarterback,

892
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: left tackle, and edge rusher. That's where they have big

893
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: money contracts, big money players. Some might argue that Milano's

894
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: a big money player ten million a linebacker. It's not

895
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 1: a ton of money when you see Roquan Smith getting

896
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: twenty million a year in Baltimore on an extension. So

897
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: do what do they value the linebacker position at and

898
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: is it as high as some of those other quote

899
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: unquote premium positions. If not, I think they try to

900
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: make the most com heditive offer they can to get

901
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: Edmunds back in the fold. But based on you know

902
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: what Steve has said, and I think he's right. I

903
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: think the demand for his talent is going to be

904
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: enormous on the open market, and I think his agent

905
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: is going to tell him let's check free agency out first.

906
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: As much as you may want to return to Buffalo

907
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: because the money might be stupid, right, it's yeah, and

908
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: I don't have and I don't have any I don't

909
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: think Bills fans should have any qualms about those guys

910
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: going out and doing what they can for their families,

911
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: getting the money they deserve or the money they've earned

912
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: on the open market. I think the Bills would tell

913
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: them that too. That's one of the reasons the Bills

914
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: are so highly thought of by the players around the

915
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: league is that if they'll give you an offer, but

916
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: it's going to be less than what you'll get on

917
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: the free open market, so they make no qualms about it.

918
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: You can get more than this, but this is what

919
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: you're worth to us. This is what we're gonna play.

920
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: And if you want to go out there will turn

921
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: you loose and go well, good, good, good on you.

922
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: You know, bless your heart. And I think players appreciate

923
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 1: that there's no hard feelings because they're you know, certainly

924
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: the clubs over the decades who have proven they make

925
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: tough choices at your expensive a player, man, they gotta

926
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: do it. We talked about what the Packers should do

927
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers man trade that guy you got Jordan Love,

928
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: Let's find out save the money. Let's stop letting him

929
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: take the air out of the room, you know, let's

930
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: move on. So clubs are more have always been more

931
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: than willing to do that. But when they also like

932
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: a club like Buffalo says, you know what, you deserve

933
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: the chance, you know, we'll let you do it, no

934
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: hard feelings. If if you want to take our offer,

935
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: we'd love to have you. But we understand that goes

936
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: a long way with players, and I think it's been

937
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: proven time and again and a number of occasions here

938
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: in Buffalo over the Sean McDermott Brandon Bean era that

939
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: players sometimes will take it. I'll have Taron Johnson right,

940
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: like Jordan Phillips and Shack Lawson and and players who

941
00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: take it would be players like Tarn Johnson and Matt Milano. Yeah,

942
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: I'll take it. Thanks, I'm not going on the market. Yeah,

943
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: that's it. It's a great way to do business, and

944
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: players of respect it and they appreciate it. Break time

945
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: for us here when we come back for our number two,

946
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking NFL combine with the president of

947
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: National Football Scouting. They run the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis.

948
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: Jeff Foster joins us next here on One Bills Live

949
00:51:26,320 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. These one

950
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by call A Health. Our number two

951
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: on a Monday, Chris Brown, Steve task me with you,

952
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna talk a little NFL combine now. And

953
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: who better to discuss that with than the president of

954
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: National Football Scouting. They run the NFL Scouting Combine every

955
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: year in Indie, and as we know, the combine returns

956
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: one week from today. Crazy that it's honest already, But

957
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: Jeff Foster joining us here. Jeff is all the hay

958
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: in the barners. There's still some teas to cross and

959
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: some eyes to die before this thing gets rolling next week. Well,

960
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: I don't know the day's ever fully in the barn,

961
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: but you know, at this point, work sided and ready

962
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, and it's a little different, as you

963
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: than it has been last year. Most people may not notice,

964
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 1: but you're switching up the order in which the position

965
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: groups show up. And by and by the way, the

966
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: position groups thing is a lot different than it used

967
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: to be as well. I mean, when did you split

968
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 1: it up into having one group of players that play

969
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: the same position in as opposed to having everybody in

970
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: at the same time. I mean, when did that all

971
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: change and how do you foresee it in the future changing. Yeah,

972
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, that's probably a better question for Bill Polian,

973
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: who wrote a great article on the history of the

974
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: Combine recently. It was certainly before my time. You know,

975
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 1: we've gone through a lot of changes here, especially recently,

976
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: and the big one this year is that we're going

977
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: to start with defense for the first time. So we'll

978
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: have our defensive groups kick us off in terms of

979
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: on field performance on Thursday and Friday, and then we'll

980
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: switch to the offense Saturday and Sunday. So we're excited

981
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: about that change. But like anything, it sounds very simple,

982
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of logistical challenges behind the scenes

983
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: in order to make that change. And you know, I

984
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: realized that the Combine has grown into this giant thing

985
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: now from what it was, which was largely you know,

986
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: an event to as a medical clearinghouse for thirty two

987
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: NFL teams to get full blown medical reports on all

988
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: these prospects. Now there's like fan interactive events and all

989
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: of that stuff. I mean, it goes just, it goes

990
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: way beyond the thirty two teams trying to get their

991
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: homework done before the draft. There is a total fan

992
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: element to this and you guys are expanding that too,

993
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: I hear, no question. Yeah, the NFL has done a

994
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: great job of bringing fans into the event and that

995
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: was one of the changes this year, working in concert

996
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: with the city of Indianapolis and Visit Indie and our

997
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: great partners here, was to offer some opportunities for the

998
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 1: fans not only inside the building, but also a combine

999
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: experience in the South lot just on the south side

1000
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: of the building where NFL legends will be there, and

1001
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: then there'll be some interactive games, music, food, drinks, things

1002
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: to just enjoy all things football, kind of to celebrate

1003
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: football at all levels. So works about that opportunity this year.

1004
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: And then obviously fans will also be able to come

1005
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: into the building during the workouts to watch very similar

1006
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 1: to last year. And nearby there's attractions for the fans.

1007
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: You might have mentioned. You can you know, you've got

1008
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: guys that can. You can time yourself in the forty

1009
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: yard dash. You can get an obstacle course like a

1010
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 1: combine type of thing. You can take a picture of

1011
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: yourself doing bench press kind of stuff, all the all

1012
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: the fun stuff to interact for kids and families, and

1013
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: there's more than just going out and watching these guys

1014
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: jump around the place, right, Yeah, no question. I mean

1015
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: for us internally, for the clubs, combine is you know,

1016
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: the still the number one priority is the medical evaluations,

1017
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 1: followed by the team interviews and the on field performance component.

1018
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: But lots of opportunities for the fans, and we hope

1019
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: lots of people will come out next weekend. A question

1020
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm often asked Jeff by fans is how the Combine

1021
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: committee comes to decide who is invited and who is not.

1022
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: So here is the opportunity, Jeff, can you just kind

1023
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: of lay out, first of all, how long a process

1024
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: is it to whittle that list down, and then how

1025
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: do you ultimately make the call, especially when you get

1026
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: to that back third, you know, the last maybe fifty

1027
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: sixty invites. Yeah, you're right, Chris, that the last part

1028
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: is really the hardest. You know, I think picking the

1029
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: top one hundred, one hundred and fifty players is fairly easy.

1030
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: The only challenge there is the timing for us, you know,

1031
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: we'll start that selection process in early December when we're

1032
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: working on just the seniors, and generally will invite about

1033
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: two hundred seniors towards the end of December. Those are

1034
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: really the ones that we consider as the easier selections.

1035
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: The selection committee has evolved over time, you know, in

1036
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: an effort to make sure that we do get the

1037
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: right players for the clubs. We've actually invited all thirty

1038
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: two clubs to be involved in the selection process so

1039
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: they have an opportunity to vote for players, so they

1040
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 1: will vote for the seniors in early December, we will

1041
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: select right around two hundred of those players, and then

1042
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: we'll put another hundred seniors on what we call an

1043
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: under consideration list, so players that we're still going to

1044
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: watch through the Bowl games and they all star games,

1045
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: and then when the underclassmen officially to clear through the

1046
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: NFL in mid January, that's when we'll start working on

1047
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: that list of underclassmen. So this year that list was

1048
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: smaller than it's been in a number of years, which

1049
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: I think is important and also allowed us to go

1050
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: back to that list of seniors who are still being

1051
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: considered and fill in those positions spots with those guys.

1052
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: But as you mentioned, you know, the last fifty players

1053
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: are really a challenge for us. In fact that the

1054
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: next fifty are probably equally as deserving as the fifty

1055
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: that we end up bringing at the end. And the

1056
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: interesting thing is that sometimes the fifty guys you bring

1057
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: show that maybe they didn't belong and that opens up

1058
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: opportunities for the draft, you know, for those fifty who

1059
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: didn't come me. Every year there's about thirty to thirty

1060
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: five players who get drafted that we don't invite to

1061
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: the combine. And I know that looks like a miss

1062
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: on our part, but as you guys know, it's a

1063
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: it's a process of evaluating the players. And so looking

1064
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: at what we do in early December, when you still

1065
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: have Bowl games, all Star games, combine, thirty visits pro

1066
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: days before you get to the draft, it's really difficult

1067
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: to use the draft as a measuring stick for us.

1068
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: But you know we certainly do do that, all right,

1069
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: So give us an idea, because every year when we

1070
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: watch the draft, we'll see some guys who opt out

1071
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: of certain activities forty or a bench or whatever whatever

1072
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: for injuries or whatever reason. Is there any significant percentage

1073
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: every year that you can say, we're going to invite

1074
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: these guys, but maybe this many are going to say no,

1075
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: they don't want to show up. Is there any significant

1076
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: statistical number of guys who do that? I do you expected, like, no,

1077
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: thank yous. We really don't, and we have a very

1078
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: small number of players who declined the invitation altogether. You know,

1079
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: we've certainly in the past I've had players that have

1080
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: decided that they don't want to pursue a career in

1081
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: the NFL, and so those guys have declined. But what

1082
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: we see more of is guys that because of injury,

1083
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: won't participate in some on field component, which is still

1084
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: important for them to come because collecting that medical information

1085
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: again is the most important element, and then for them

1086
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: to be able to participate in the interviews with the clubs.

1087
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: So while we don't see people necessarily declining the invitation,

1088
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: we'll see a little bit of a decrease in participation.

1089
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: You know. Last year, you may recall we had a

1090
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: really high percentage of players that declined to do the

1091
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: bench press, and one of the reasons was that we

1092
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: had moved the bench press on the day of the

1093
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: workout for the first time in a long time, if

1094
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: ever at the Combine. So even though that that's how

1095
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: it's done at a pro day, we found that the

1096
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: players did not want to do that at the Combine.

1097
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: So this year we talked to the training facilities in advance,

1098
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: the ones that traditionally train a lot of the participants,

1099
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,479
Speaker 1: and we've moved that bench press to the day after

1100
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: their on field workout, which was the training facilities reference,

1101
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: and so we hope that participation in bench press will

1102
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: increase this year. So that kind of leads me into

1103
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: my next question, Jeff, because clearly you take feedback from

1104
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: the prospects themselves based on the events and how you

1105
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: guys schedule them orchestrate them, etc. How much do you

1106
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: also take feedback from the thirty two clubs and do

1107
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: you also take feedback from, as you pointed out, some

1108
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: of those training facilities that get a lot of these

1109
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: players ready for your event. Yeah? Absolutely. You know, we

1110
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: want to collect feedback number one from the players because

1111
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: our number one goal is to make sure that the

1112
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: player avarience has improved from year to year, and we

1113
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: do that in all elements, you know, everything from travel

1114
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: to food to the sleeping habits as well as the

1115
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: on field workouts in their process through medical examinations and

1116
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: interviews from the thirty two clubs. Those are our bosses,

1117
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: that's who we work for, that's who we service, So

1118
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: we absolutely receive their feedback and take it seriously and

1119
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: implement change based on what's best for the clubs. But

1120
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: in the last few years we've also invited the training

1121
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: facilities as well as the agents to provide feedback. You know,

1122
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: the players go through this one time only for the

1123
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: most part, although we do have one player, Michael Turk,

1124
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: who's going to come back for a second combine. But

1125
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: for the most part, players only go through this once.

1126
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: But the clubs, ourselves and the agents and the training

1127
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: facilities do this year after year. So it's really important

1128
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: to collect that feedback with the primary focus of improving

1129
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: the player experience. So the NFL thirty two clubs has

1130
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: a lot to say about the combine and we've heard

1131
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: rumblings that and it was true this year that Indianapolis

1132
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: outbid everybody to keep the combine in Indianapolis, which is

1133
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: obviously great for you guys because you've you've kind of

1134
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: got it dialed in there in Indie. How likely is

1135
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: it and what do you what can you tell us about?

1136
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: You know, this bidding process we hear about but know

1137
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: so little about. Yeah, you know, there's been a lot

1138
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,959
Speaker 1: of discussion over the last six to eight ten years

1139
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: about potentially moving the combine to different locations. I think

1140
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: once the NFL had success moving the draft, I think

1141
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: we were kind of the next tent pole event to

1142
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: be put on the move. And really I think the

1143
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: purpose there is to offer other cities the opportunity to

1144
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: host for fan engagement and to benefit the local club.

1145
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: But Indie has been our home for thirty five years

1146
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: and we have these tremendous part specifically I you helped

1147
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 1: to manage all of our medical evaluations, which again is

1148
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: the priority for us. So you know, a year ago

1149
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: we started a bidding process for the first time in

1150
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: an official capacity, and there was six or seven cities

1151
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: involved in that. And I was really impressed with Indie.

1152
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: Although I'm biased because I live here and we've worked

1153
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: so closely with the great people to visit Indie and

1154
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: our partners, I was really impressed that after thirty five years,

1155
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: they put together such a great bid and they won

1156
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: the opportunity to host it. Again this year as well

1157
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: as twenty four, and I'm hopeful that they'll do that

1158
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: again for twenty five and twenty six, and we'll start

1159
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: that bidding process here. We've already the League has already

1160
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: had conversations with a number of the cities, and we'll

1161
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: start that bidding process here in the next six months.

1162
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 1: And I have to believe Jeff that for other cities

1163
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: interested in an event this scale and this size with

1164
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: as many people that are involved, not just players, you're

1165
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: talking thirty two teams with multiple representatives there. I mean,

1166
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: you're talking you're up in the thousands of people that

1167
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: you have to accommodate, let alone the fact that you're

1168
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: operating out of a convention center and a stadium simultaneously.

1169
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: So I would imagine they're coming to you, guys on

1170
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: your staff to find out just exactly what's needed to

1171
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: even have a shot at having everything necessary to host

1172
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: an event of this scale. Yeah, no question. And you know,

1173
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: we started the process very early a year ago. We

1174
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: identified two cities, Los Angeles and Dallas were finalists bidding

1175
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: for this most recent setup combines two years, and we

1176
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: had both of those groups in to visit at during

1177
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: last year's combine, and then we took visits to those

1178
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 1: cities to not only see the facilities, but also meet

1179
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: with the personnel, you know, the the interviews, the on

1180
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: field workouts, things of that nature. Are much easier to

1181
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: make mobile. If you give us a stadium and hotels

1182
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: and a convention center, we can make most of that happen.

1183
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: But the medical testing is really the big challenge. So

1184
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: making sure that we have a partner like IU Health

1185
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: here in Indianapolis to help us work through the multitude

1186
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: of scheduling and logistics involved in that medical piece is

1187
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 1: really the biggest challenge. And the one thing that we've

1188
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: shared with the NFL, and I think they learned a

1189
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: lot of it through the process that we went through

1190
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: last year with the bidding, is that we need a

1191
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: lot of runway to get this off the ground, you know,

1192
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: especially since we've been fortunate to have it here in

1193
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: one location for so long. So it'll be a big

1194
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: challenge if and when we ever move it. But for now,

1195
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: we're excited to be back in Indianapolis and again, selfishly,

1196
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: I hope it stays yeah. And interestingly enough, we heard

1197
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: that it's the interviews and the medical evaluations that are

1198
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: really the heartbeat of what the NFL clubs look for

1199
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: in these combines. Certainly, fans and all of us want

1200
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: to see him run the forty and see him bench

1201
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 1: and see him vertical jump and all that, but really

1202
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: it's the medical side of this that is the crux

1203
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: of what the NFL is looking at for these guys.

1204
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: How I mean, what are we looking at that is

1205
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: maybe something that you guys really need from another city

1206
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: that Indianapolis has. What do people not know about this

1207
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: medical evaluation, all the logistics and the size of it.

1208
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: That's a great question, and you're right. You know, the

1209
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: clubs have been evaluating the players for a year or

1210
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: two from a football perspective, so they know quite a

1211
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,439
Speaker 1: bit about the players on the football side, and they've

1212
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 1: been able to interview at least the seniors a lot

1213
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: of the All Star games. So the medical testing is new.

1214
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: It's our first opportunity to evaluate the players. And that's

1215
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: why it's so important in terms of what's needed at

1216
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: a facility. You only need the facility and equipment and

1217
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: the staffing, but you also need the expertise in the

1218
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: scheduling and the logistics. So for instance, we bring in

1219
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: mobile units that are located mobile MRI units that are

1220
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: located in the stadium, but those have to be staffed,

1221
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: and so Indianapolis will shut down some of their satellite

1222
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: MRI locations and bring their staff in to staff those

1223
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: mobile units. And we have very specific protocols. So our

1224
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: MRI of a shoulder is very different than what you

1225
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 1: and I would get if we injured our shoulder, you know,

1226
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: play in basketball with our kids and then went in

1227
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: for an MRI. The protocols are very different than what

1228
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: we use. The NFL and the teams and the Position

1229
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: Society and defats have all built protocols very specific to

1230
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: the football athlete, and so it's teaching those pieces and

1231
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: then also making sure that we have all the scheduling

1232
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: down to a science that as the players will attest

1233
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: their their time here is very busy and the schedules

1234
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: are very tight. I mean, this year we're dealing with

1235
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: three hundred nineteen players and we will do, you know,

1236
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: probably in the neighborhood of five hundred MRIs and two

1237
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: thousand X rays in a four day period on those

1238
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: three hundred nineteen players. So the logistics and not only

1239
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: getting the players to the locations facilitating and executing the

1240
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: actual exams and imaging, but then also having that imaging

1241
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: read by radiologists and available to the clubs through through

1242
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 1: our EMRU and the connectivity that's required from the healthcare provider.

1243
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: All of those pieces have to come together, and you know,

1244
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: so doing that in a new location will be certainly

1245
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 1: be a challenge. And I realized too, Jeff, that there

1246
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 1: are instances that come up from that imaging and from

1247
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: X rays and MRIs that sometimes pull a prospect or

1248
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: a player out of participating in the combine because maybe

1249
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: they have some kind of condition that they were unaware

1250
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: of themselves. And that really is that really the last

1251
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 1: piece of the puzzle for you guys, because like the

1252
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,759
Speaker 1: combine finishes, but you had some guys that got medically

1253
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 1: red flagged and then you or they might have a

1254
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 1: rehab that's not quite done yet, and that's when the

1255
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: April rechecks kick in. Right? Is that? What is that pool?

1256
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: Usually about fifty sixty players? What's the pool usually? Yeah,

1257
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: it's usually about fifty. We actually reduced it this past year.

1258
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: We put in some different protocols with the athletic trainers

1259
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: and we're able to reduce that number. Um, you know,

1260
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,919
Speaker 1: watching the players from the time they left the combine

1261
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 1: through their pro days and being able to clear them

1262
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: through their participation or potentially clear them while they're at

1263
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: one of their thirty visits with a club. That that

1264
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: enabled us to reduce the number of players that we

1265
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 1: brought in for the rechecks. But you know, you make

1266
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: an important point about the examinations, and it's it's a

1267
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: question we get a lot of times from agents and

1268
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: athletes each year, is why can't I work out in

1269
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: the first day or the second day I'm there? Because

1270
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:09,560
Speaker 1: they're always concerned about their preparation, which we certainly can appreciate.

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Speaker 1: But part of the examination is making sure that they're

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Speaker 1: able to participate in making sure that they're cleared. So

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Speaker 1: if we do find something that concerns us and would

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Speaker 1: concern the athlete, then unfortunately we'll have to shut them down,

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Speaker 1: not let them work out here, make sure that they

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Speaker 1: are evaluated not only here but when they leave here,

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Speaker 1: so that they're healthy to work out, because they always

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Speaker 1: have their pro day to do that piece of it.

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Speaker 1: But we still want them here to go through the

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Speaker 1: medical and certainly the interviews and the other components of

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Speaker 1: the combine. So February twenty eight through March sixth is

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Speaker 1: the combine. You've got the AFCN NFC championship trophies, photo opportunities,

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Speaker 1: the set that's going to look like the draft that

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01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: people are going to come up and be able to

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Speaker 1: see what the draft is going to look like, autograph

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Speaker 1: stay age, super Bowl ring, the big fifty six fifty

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01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: six Super Bowl rings are going to be on display

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01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: people and go see those. The Vince Lombardi Trophy is

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01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 1: going to be there. This is this is way different

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Speaker 1: than just a workout. I mean, you got fans coming

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Speaker 1: tickets certain now ticket there's no there's no charge for tickets,

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01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: but you can get in and watch this thing. This

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Speaker 1: is way way different than it was decades ago, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: No question? And you know, I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: things that a lot of things are different. But one

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Speaker 1: of the improvements that we continue to make is on

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Speaker 1: that player experience. And as I mentioned before, players are

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01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: always concerned when they're here because they've been training for

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01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 1: this opportunity and so making sure that they're sleeping right,

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01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: eating right, working out. You know, this year we're going

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01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 1: to have an opportunity to allow the player, if they

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01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: have a trainer that they've been working with, that trainer

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01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: will be able to come into a facility that our

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Speaker 1: new partner, Noble has created. So there'll be a weight room,

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01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: there'll be a full turf field in the convention Center,

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Speaker 1: and it's just a private player only headquarter, have a

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Speaker 1: recovery room, minute and the players will be able to

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01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 1: go in there during their downtime, stretch, run, workout, prepare,

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01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: and again their trainers can come in there and work

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Speaker 1: with them on their starts. Things that you know, we

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01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 1: found years ago they were doing down the hallways of

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Speaker 1: the Convention Center outside the old dome. So we wanted

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01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 1: to provide an opportunity and we're fortunate to have our

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Speaker 1: new partner, Noble offer that to the players, which we

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01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 1: think will really improve their overall experience. Well, Jeff, thanks

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Speaker 1: for the time. You've been very insightful on the interworkings

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01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 1: of the event itself. I realize we're probably at the

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01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: two minute warning for you, so good luck getting some

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01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: rest of this week, no, when you're probably not going

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01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: to get a whole lot of sleep next week. Yeah, thanks, No,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Guys, look forward to having you here

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01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 1: next week and look forward to bringing the players in here.

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Speaker 1: I think they start arriving in about six days. That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again, jeffs appreciate it. Thanks guys. All right. That's

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Speaker 1: Jeff Foster, president of National Football Scouting. They run the

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Speaker 1: NFL Combine in Indianapolis and have for the last several decades.

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Speaker 1: And as we said, we will be out there at

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Speaker 1: the NFL Combine coming to you live here on the

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Speaker 1: show from Indie in the Convention Center. It's just like

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01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 1: we did last year and the year, well not the

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01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 1: year before that that was COVID, but we were there

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01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 1: last year back again and it's good. It's good. It's

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01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,560
Speaker 1: like it's an NFL clearinghouse for a week Indianapolis. It

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Speaker 1: really is. It is, and we didn't get into it.

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Speaker 1: And I don't even know if maybe he doesn't even know,

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Speaker 1: but the bid that Indianapolis put in for the Combine

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Speaker 1: is a similar process to what cities put in for

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Right, it's a big number. I'm certainly

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01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,560
Speaker 1: the Combine is not as big a number as the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl, but it's a process through which these cities

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01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: go and they put together a bid and they have

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Speaker 1: to have, you know, certain things in place. There's parameters

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01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 1: they have to meet. And the hardest parameter, obviously that

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01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: we found out through talking to Jeff, is you got

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01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: to have the medical facilities. You have to have a partner.

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01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: You have to have a hospital partner. And I mean

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01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: you can see if the if they wanted to bring

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01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: that to Buffalo. I mean, everybody at Roswell would have

1349
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 1: to like it'd be all hands on deck buff General

1350
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: well you heard him, ECMC would have to be on board.

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01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 1: All these gates, all these hospitals got to be on

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Speaker 1: board their people. He was saying. Their satellite MRI facilities

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01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: around Indianapolis they all dark, yeah, for a week, because

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01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 1: they need those MRI machines mobilized and down at the

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01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:37,879
Speaker 1: stadium to handle all the same. And they do special

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01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: protocols for what they're looking for for football players rather

1357
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 1: than like for just every you know, every Joe Schmo

1358
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 1: like you and me. They're looking for different stuff. It's

1359
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: the weirdest thing ever, But that's massive for these teams

1360
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 1: to and these cities to put together a partner, like

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01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 1: two years in advance, two years in advance to get

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Speaker 1: the medical people up and running and forget about them.

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Speaker 1: Convention center and a stadium that's there, and you know

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01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,560
Speaker 1: all that stuff. It's doctors an MRI machine, right, And

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01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 1: I understand why he likes he wants to keep it

1366
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: there because if you're doing it this way, he knows

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01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: they all know where everything is. And everybody that works

1368
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 1: the combine knows where everything is, who's where, what's getting done, when,

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01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 1: where things get stored, where things get staged. You go

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01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 1: to a completely due city. The convention center might not

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01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 1: be right down the street from the stadium. This thing

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01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 1: might be over here. Now, those people might be over there.

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01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: It's like, and it's not just Jeff Foster. Look guy

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01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:36,560
Speaker 1: we're talking to. He says, I know where this is.

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01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: And it's all the MRI people, the doctors all they

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01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: all know it too. They're like, oh, yeah, we take

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Speaker 1: a week off, we're gonna go down there. It'll be

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01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 1: nighte we'll do it. We'll be just like last year.

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01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: They're all greased and ready to go to You know,

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01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: the wheels are already spinning down there. You try and

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01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 1: get that revved up. No wonder, he said, yeah, we

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01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: need a long lea. We need a long ramp up time. Yeah,

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01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 1: that's amazing. If for some reason you are going out

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01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 1: to Indiana bas to watch the workouts at the NFL Combine.

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01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 1: As Steve mentioned, the defensive players are going first this year.

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01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: Defensive linemen and linebackers on Thursday, March second, hit the

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Speaker 1: workout field. Friday March third are defensive backs. Saturday is quarterbacks,

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01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: wide receivers and tight ends. Sunday running backs and offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: We have to take a break here. When we come back,

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01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: more of your phone calls. As we are asking you

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01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 1: today to give us the surprise player on the roster

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01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: who is resigned and the surprise player on the roster

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01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 1: who departs. You can let us know next. Here on

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live, presented by Kalaida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we be on a Monday on one

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01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: Bills Live. Give us one surprise player who you think

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01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 1: the Bills will resign and one surprise player that you

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01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: believe will depart this offseason. Eighth three, five fifty the

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01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: number to get on board. Open line for you there,

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01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: one two five fifty. We lead off this segment with

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01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: Keith and Holland. Keith, what do you got for us.

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01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 1: You're on one Bill's Live. Well listen a little off

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01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 1: the subject. I just wanted to say one thing to

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01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,560
Speaker 1: Steve about the winter camping up in the Anerontics. I

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01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: went to school up there when I was a student.

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01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,759
Speaker 1: We were foolish enough to go winter camping. We weren't

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01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: very we were probably less prepared than you were. For

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01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 1: four days, we'd only spend one night. We'd build a

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01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 1: fire on the snow, and in the morning the fire

1410
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 1: would be six feet below us because as the snow

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01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 1: would get well. And then the other thing I'd like

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01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: to say is Steve, I called months ago. You took

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01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 1: a picture with my grandson, which was very kind, just

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01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 1: the watch party in East Aurora, and I wanted to

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01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 1: tell him and show him who Steve Tasker was. So

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01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: I showed him on YouTube fifty one minute YouTube video

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01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: of Steve pass or highlights, so he would know who

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01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:06,600
Speaker 1: you were and what you did. Now upon that he

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01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 1: was impressed. He wants to be a football player. But

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01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: upon that there was also there was also a video

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01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 1: of you turkey hunting with some guy. Now was that

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01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 1: just for promotional purposes or are you an outdoorsman? Um

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01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: to say, I'm an outdoors outdoorsman. I'm more of a

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01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 1: camper now. I grew up hunting in Kansas where I

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01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: grew up where there was pheasant and quail hunting and

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01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: so yeah, shotgun bird hunting. Yeah, I've done um not

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01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: never any big game like deer hunting or anything like that.

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01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 1: And I haven't done it in decades because of the

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01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: football seasons and on my time with the NFL, I

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01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 1: just don't have time to do it. But I grew

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01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 1: up doing that. Yes, the bird the turkey. The turkey

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01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: thing you're doing was in a charity event that I

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01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: took part in. Yes, And I don't know. I don't

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01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 1: I've never seen that video. We may have to check

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01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: that out. I didn't know that one guy guiding you. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I've never seen it. Where do I find it? Sorry, Keith,

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01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to cut you off there. We got

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Speaker 1: got another call. We can find it on YouTube. I'm

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01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: sure it won't be hard. Steve Tasker Turkey Hunting put

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01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: it in. We'll find it all right. But thanks for

1441
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,719
Speaker 1: the heads up, Keith. We appreciate that because something tells

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01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: me that might be pretty entertaining. Just I do have

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01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 1: I do have a stuffed turkey mounted because I won

1444
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 1: the this charity event, the biggest best turkey. I don't

1445
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: know how they quantify that. That has something to do

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01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 1: with the length of the spurs on the turkey real

1447
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 1: something like that, and in the weight or whatever. And

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01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 1: look at what I'm learning here. My thing my turkey

1449
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: was this was gosh, this was gush fifteen years ago.

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01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: So but I still got the bird. That's cool. It's

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01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: out of sight in the attic. I gonna we're gonna

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01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:46,839
Speaker 1: put it. It's a turkey. I put it right outside

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01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: the front door, full like strut, like the fan, you know,

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01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: like the fans, right, yeah, so it's bring it out

1455
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving every year. That'd be perfect, right in front

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01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: of the door. Oh yeah, I'll run that by the

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01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 1: wife's ye. Just have him hold a sign that. Just

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01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 1: have him hold a sign that says happy Thanksgiving. Try

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01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: a ham there you go, you know, so he doesn't

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01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: get you know what I mean. They'd be good. Yeah,

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01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 1: a little little frivolity to the holiday. Bring him down

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01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 1: out of the attic every Thanksgiving and be good. Put

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Speaker 1: him outside the front door. Uh, let's go to Marie

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01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 1: and Amhurst next we got frist Marie. Hey, guys, so

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01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: I think that the Bills are gonna bring back Cole

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01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 1: Beasley because I mean, he is productive, and I guess

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01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 1: we could um cut or part ways with Tim Settle.

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01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: He's all right, you know, he seemed like a good guy.

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01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 1: But I mean it's always the draft is always free agency,

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01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 1: get some more players in here. But I think that

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01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 1: we got a tough spot here because since twenty twenty

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01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: we should at least one two super bowls by now.

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01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 1: I mean this the schedule coming up and this, oh

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01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 1: my gosh, it's just looking not too good for us.

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01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: Plus we need a backup quarterback, oh my gosh, because

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01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: Keenum he's too old. I don't think he's it. We

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01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 1: know Barkley isn't it there. But well, let me ask

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Speaker 1: you this, Marie, because you mentioned Beasley as your surprise resign.

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Speaker 1: He turns thirty four in April. Does that bother you

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Speaker 1: at all? Nope? Okay, he loves real good out here.

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Speaker 1: Last year. He's still he still got some left, all right.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to check. Thanks for the call, appreciate

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Speaker 1: it as always, um so Beasley for her surprise ad Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and she's right about the schedule coming up this year.

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Speaker 1: The Bills play well to play the West, right. Well,

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Speaker 1: they're not only playing the Chiefs on the road, right,

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Speaker 1: they play the Bengals on the road and the Eagles

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Speaker 1: on the road. Right. So three of the last four

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Speaker 1: teams standing this year, the Bills play them all on

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Speaker 1: the road, and the Chargers on the road another playoff

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Speaker 1: yeah team. Yeah, but three of the last four teams standing,

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Speaker 1: and they gotta play all three of them on the road. Steve, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the guy I thought this year's schedule is tough.

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Speaker 1: Now this this graphic I'm looking at that, I mean

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Speaker 1: the red the teams in red or playoff teams. Yes, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right. So it's yeah eight right, and then it's

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Speaker 1: obviously the division champion the division opponents to the right,

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Speaker 1: which is an additional playoff team in the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah okay, oh yeah, that's a tough one. Dallas, the Giants, Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers all playoff teams, The Chiefs, Chargers, Eagles, Bengals all

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Speaker 1: playoff teams, and the Dolphins a playoff team. Nine of

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01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 1: the seventeen games and ten of your seventeen games because

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01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: you play Dolphins, right, and then the other two are

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01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 1: the Patriots and the Jets. With four of those, Wow, yeah,

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01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 1: that's pretty tough. It's it's stiff. It's a stiff schedule

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Speaker 1: for sure. I was just talking about it with my

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01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: father in law last night. We had him over for dinner,

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01:22:55,560 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 1: and he's just like, why, why, how are we going

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01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: to Kansas City again? We get so I had to

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Speaker 1: explain the rotational schedule and how it all works. I said,

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Speaker 1: I understand why people forget. The Chiefs did play here

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01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, but nobody saw it because that's when

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01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 1: the stadium was not having fans due to COVID. But

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01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: the problem is we're playing them twice a year and

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01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 1: they're both in Kansas City usually, yeah, usually, and we're

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01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 1: winning the wrong game in that series. We're winning the

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01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 1: regular season game, not the playoff game. Now, I will

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01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 1: say this, if the Bills and the Chiefs finish in

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01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: the same spot in their division this season, hopefully first

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01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: place for both of them, well who cares about the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: But if they both finish in the same spot in

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Speaker 1: their division next year twenty twenty four, I believe that

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01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 1: the Chiefs would come here as the intra conference other

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01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 1: division team, because you have two teams in the AFC

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01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,679
Speaker 1: from the other divisions that you're not playing the entire division.

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Speaker 1: Those are the two teams where you play one home

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Speaker 1: and one away. And I leave it would be Chiefs

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Speaker 1: here if they finished in the same position as the

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Speaker 1: Bills at the end of this season for twenty twenty

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01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 1: four schedules, So the Chiefs would finally come here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if we plow through the most difficult schedule right, plant

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Speaker 1: and right. And I know, I know a lot of

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01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 1: times the schedule looks daunting in February. Somebody Gate sent

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Speaker 1: me the video Meet Turkey in Oh, you found it already.

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01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 1: Look at that. Somebody's helping you out. I am watching

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Speaker 1: that in the break. So I know a lot of

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01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: times the schedule seems daunting in February, But then it

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Speaker 1: looks a whole lot different from this end of it

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01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 1: when we get to September or even October, and then

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Speaker 1: all of the twists and turns of the season can

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01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 1: change it as well. I mean, I remember in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one we thought that five games stretch was a gauntlet.

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Speaker 1: How are they gonna They'll be lucky to win two

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01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 1: out the five games and end up going four and

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01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 1: one in that stretch, and we're like, how the heck

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01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 1: did that happen? But hopefully it takes a turn for

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01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 1: the better. Knowing on the surface right now, it's like,

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Speaker 1: the three of the four teams in the conference title

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01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 1: games the Bills have to play this coming season, and

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Speaker 1: all three of them are road games. Yeah, yeah, that's

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01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 1: that's a tough Philly's gonna be a different team. Well,

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01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:17,839
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose a lot of people the free agency,

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01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 1: but you know, Kansas City's gonna be Kansas City. And

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati hasn't lost anybody yet. Yeah, they may may lose

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Speaker 1: Jesse Bates, te Higgins or somebody like that. Well, he's

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01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 1: still got a year left. He just wants a big

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Speaker 1: money deal. I don't know if Cincinnati's gonna do that.

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Speaker 1: So some of even speculated that the Bengals may trade

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Speaker 1: te Higgins a year early rather than losing him in

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Speaker 1: free agency and getting nothing. That would be interesting if

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Speaker 1: that comes to pass. Maybe that happens around draft time,

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Speaker 1: as we saw with a j Brown list. What's t

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Speaker 1: Higgins worth? I think on some teams he's a number

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Speaker 1: one wide out. Sure, like probably ten teams in this

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01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 1: league would take him as their number one wide out.

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Speaker 1: So if you can trade him to a team that

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Speaker 1: would take him as a number one, they can get

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Speaker 1: a one back, not for two year your deal or

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Speaker 1: well no, it would be predicated on an extension, which

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Speaker 1: was the same thing that happened with A. J. Brown.

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01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 1: His contract was up. Titans weren't going to give him

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Speaker 1: giant money, so they said, okay, we're gonna trade you.

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Speaker 1: And then the Eagles are like, well, well, hold on,

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Speaker 1: if I'm giving up a first round pick, I'm signing

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Speaker 1: him to an extension, So let us agree to terms

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Speaker 1: on that with him, and then we can execute the

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Speaker 1: trade and you can get what you want. That's what

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Speaker 1: has to happen, right, So I think they can get

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Speaker 1: it one for him. Yeah, if the right teams up,

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Speaker 1: all right, and then you know, you hope you draft

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Speaker 1: a talent similarly as effective or as talented as the

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Speaker 1: one you just shipped out. Now that failed miserably for

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Speaker 1: the Titans. You know, they took the kid from Arkansas

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01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 1: who can't play. He was a disaster in his first year.

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01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 1: Not that he had a ton of quarterback help. But

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Speaker 1: he was a disaster. So it is a risk. It's

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Speaker 1: a risk. It's always a risk when the drafts involved, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what the heck else is new? All Right,

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Speaker 1: we gotta take a break. Watch Steve Turkey hunting on

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Speaker 1: YouTube video, and then we'll be back to close things

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Speaker 1: up here on one Bills Live with some final thoughts

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet presented by Klaida Health. It's Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. All right, back here on one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Some final thoughts on the tweet sheet in terms of

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01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 1: a surprise player you believe the Bills will resign and

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01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 1: a surprise player you think might depart from Buffalo's roster

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01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:38,759
Speaker 1: this offseason. Rob on the tweet sheet says, resigning Taiwan

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01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 1: Jones Edmonds departs. This team has an infatuation with special

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01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 1: teams players, but has that next man up attitude with

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01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 1: offense and defense. Jay says payer back on a one

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01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:54,839
Speaker 1: year deal. Jordan Phillips and Isaiah McKenzie depart. Isaiah McKenzie

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Speaker 1: still has a year left on his contract. Phillips is

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01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 1: a free agent. Poor You're back on a one year deal.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if player takes a one year deal

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01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 1: but maybe the interest on the market is and his

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01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 1: fierce as he or his agent anticipates. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: We'll have to see. Yeah, maybe maybe it's Poyer is

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01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 1: a guy that people have a lot of infatuation with.

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01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: And I know this, I said this before. I think

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Speaker 1: maybe at the early last week or maybe even the

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Speaker 1: week before that, Brandon being and his staff, while they

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01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 1: love these guys and know him really well, they don't

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01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 1: get intangible. They don't get all hooked up in their

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01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 1: fields about these players. They got they have business decisions.

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01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 1: They got business decisions to make, and as much as

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01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 1: they love and respect Jordan Poyer, they're not going to

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01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 1: compromise their ideals or their process in order to keep

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01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 1: him at all costs. That it's team first, player second,

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01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 1: and that's that's why it's got to be. And it's

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01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 1: hard to do sometimes because the guys helped him so

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01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 1: much and been such a great you know, they found

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01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 1: him kind of right, they found him, They found Micah Hide.

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01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 1: These guys nobody knew who they were when the Bills

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01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 1: signed him. They come out and they're this dynamic duo

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01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 1: in the secondary. It's gonna be hard, but I think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna be hard to keep him, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's where we sit with him. Last one

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Speaker 1: from Buffalo Love nineteen fourteen. We trade Oliver for a fourth.

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01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: Payer gets franchised, Edmonds meets being halfway and gets a

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Speaker 1: team friendly deal. I don't see that happening, And my god,

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01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 1: if we move Oliver, I hope we get more than

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01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 1: a fourth, that's for sure. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Payer is getting franchise. It costs too much. Steve and

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Speaker 1: I are back tomorrow for more. We'll see it. One