1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Hey, there are folks, it is Monday, July fourteenth, and 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: it does not matter who you were rooting for in 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: the Love Island USA finale. It doesn't matter if Pepe 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,079 Speaker 1: and Irish were your favorite. It doesn't matter if you 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: want a christ and who do to work out, doesn't 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: matter if Brian and Amayah were your two that you loved, 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: or if it was Nick and Orlandria. We don't care 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: about that stuff. What we care about is that those 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: Islanders continued continued last night, doing a public service for 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: all of us who are in or hope to be 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: in relationships and robes. They saved their best for last 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: because the season finale was chock full of relationship lessons, 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: chief among them, don't choose sleep over sex and Prince 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: Charming is total bullshit. And with that, welcome to this 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: Love Island USA edition of Amy TJ, where we go 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: beyond those hot bods, the kissing games, and the hideaway 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: suites to identify the real relationship issue sprinkled throughout the 18 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: hit show. Yes, we watch it for some of the lessons, 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: but a lot of people talking about just the reaction 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: to what happened last night, yours is I thought. 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 2: That America got it right. I think that they seemed 22 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: to be the most hopeful couple of them all in 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 2: terms of their dedication to one another, what they want 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: after they leave the villa. So I thought that it 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: was perfect. I really liked who America chose. Of course, 26 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 2: it was Amaya and Brian. What I didn't love was 27 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: all of the slow moo kissing and dancing. I could 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: have done with few, much fewer moments of that that. 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: I do like the music. I do get swept up 30 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: in it, I'll admit, but the slow mo stuff was 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: really They lost me on. 32 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: That, and the music's gotten better over the each they 33 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: had hit music. That's how I hit well. I mean 34 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: even the yeah that's like wow, it amazing show. So 35 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: they have can afford the rights to some songs apparently now, 36 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: But no, that was cool with Yeah. My surprise was 37 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: Iris and Pepe being the fourth favorite. I think that 38 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: threw me. And you were at the time I was 39 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: in the front with the girls. We thought we were 40 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: going to wake you up. We all just screamed, well. 41 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh you didn't wake me up because I was 42 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: I think at that point in deep or ram sleep. 43 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 2: But this morning when I went back and watched what 44 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: I missed. I actually it makes sense because they were 45 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: They weren't controversial, They didn't have anything that made them 46 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: stood out or made somebody really want to vote for 47 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 2: them one way or the other. Because they just were pleasant. Yeah, 48 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: so I get that. 49 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: Fine, and we almost think they actually don't need our help. 50 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: They're gonna be okay. 51 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: Exactly. 52 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: There's some degree it felt like that. So that was 53 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: all fun and it's in the books. Congrats to Peacock 54 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: for what they pulled off. This is a cultural phenomenon 55 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: that everybody is talking about for good reasons, bad reasons, 56 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: and just for the fact that it's a hit show. 57 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 1: But it's this thing is going to continue. And yet 58 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: really you find one of these, it's just impressive to 59 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: see how this thing is wrong. 60 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: I told you, I woke up this morning impressed that 61 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: The New York Times is covering Love Island. I mean, 62 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: that's how much of a juggernaut it is. You know, 63 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: You've got major media outlets that typically save most of 64 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: their space for the conflict with Iran or Russia and Ukraine, 65 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: and here we are The New York Times talking about 66 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 2: Love Island. 67 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: They still hit Russia and Ukraine. But but yes, that 68 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: just that lets you know, and this is a big deal, 69 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: and look, we watch it for entertainment purposes. Is how 70 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: it initially started when you got me into it, But 71 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: then I just kind of fell in love with these 72 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: relationship moments that took place, like real relationship moments and 73 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: fights and how people get over it. And we are 74 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: able to identify things that we have gone through and 75 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 1: other people are so in this last one, whoo they 76 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: went at it. So, folks, all of these you need 77 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: to ask yourself. These are the questions and lessons the 78 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: Islanders left us with from the season finale. So what 79 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: if you applied all these to your own relationship? One lesson? 80 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: Think about this? Ask yourself? Have you prioritized sleep over 81 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: sex with your partner? Two? What's the right time and 82 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: place for breakup? Three? Can you truly just be friends 83 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: after dating someone? Four? Giving your partner a literal countdown 84 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: to do what you want? It's probably not a good idea. 85 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: Five ask yourself this, do you have kind words to 86 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: say about your ex at the moment you broke up? 87 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: And if not, what does that say? Point six? Half 88 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: of the couples in the finale well, they were just 89 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: friends before they got together. We've been trying to tell y'all. 90 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: And then point seven is one that Roebok wants to 91 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: make because she is going to burst your prince charming bubble. 92 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: Am I saying that the right way? Yes, okay, correct, 93 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: that is correct, And we say the best one for last. 94 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: But let's start with the one off the top rope. 95 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: This was a big deal and conflict started and we're like, oh, hell, 96 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: we thought there's just gonna be a pleasant episode, but 97 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: Houdah and Chris got into a fight over something that 98 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: happened in bed. 99 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: You know. And it's interesting because we were rooting for them. 100 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: They had seemingly gotten over their relationship issues, their families 101 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: brought them closer together. And then you know what, I 102 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: think it was less about sleepover sex and more about 103 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: someone Hudah imposing what she wanted over what the other 104 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 2: person wanted, prioritizing her needs over her partners. Oh that 105 00:04:59,000 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: was the issue. 106 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talp want to take you on that one. 107 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: It just happened to happen in bed, Yeah, and it 108 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 1: just happened to be over sleep and sex. But this 109 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: was an issue for her that wasn't necessarily. 110 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 2: About sex, correct. She wanted what she wanted when she 111 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 2: wanted it, and she didn't take her partners needs and 112 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: desires into consideration. And look, we've all been guilty of that, 113 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: but it was very obvious that that's what Huda was doing. 114 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 2: She wanted to feel loved, she wanted she maybe she 115 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: was feeling needy, maybe she was feeling insecure, and he 116 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: really wanted to sleep, like genuinely says, this is an 117 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: important part of my life, and so he just didn't 118 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 2: respond to her. Maybe that wasn't the best way to 119 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: handle it when she was trying to get his attention, 120 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: when she wanted to cuddle, when she wanted some physical connection. Yeah, 121 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: maybe he could have said, bebe, I appreciate, I love you, 122 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 2: and just please know I love you, but I am 123 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: so tired and I need to sleep right now. But 124 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: instead he ignored her because he was irritated, which then 125 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: made her become more irritating. 126 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,559 Speaker 1: Okay, so how do we handle everybody that's watching that moment? 127 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: So I took it one sleep over second, let's just 128 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: talk about that for a second, because how many times 129 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: couples do with that. Yes, somebody goes to bed early. 130 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: Somebody's exhausted, had a longer day, the other one sitting 131 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: there horny as hell. What is the balance? And you 132 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: said she was prioritizing her needs over his. Is there 133 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: any room for him to not prioritize his needs sleep 134 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: over what hers might have been a tention affection intimacy. 135 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: I think there could have been a compromise. I think 136 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 2: he could have said to her, Hey, babe, I love you. 137 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: Please feel free to snuggle up next to me, but 138 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: I got to sleep. And then she just doesn't feel rejected. See, 139 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: Chris has felt rejected so many times, and Hudah has 140 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: felt rejected, and so I think that's what happened. In 141 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: a way. Maybe it was another passive aggressive Maybe she 142 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: annoyed him and he was like, yeah, you've completely dismissed 143 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: me so many times. I'm gonna do the same thing 144 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 2: right back to you, because ignoring someone is never a 145 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: good thing. But then she behaved even worse, and that's 146 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: what ended up happening, where she gave him an ultimatum. 147 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 2: She did a countdown like a mom to a child 148 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 2: that ain't ever gonna go over. Well. 149 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: I didn't think about it this way when we put 150 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: this as a topic. But like both of them did 151 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: almost everything wrong, they did right, and they didn't prioritize, 152 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: they didn't think about the other. They weren't considered. They 153 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: weren't kind to their partner in that moment. Look, we 154 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: all have bad moments. We just happened to see theirs 155 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: play out. And it is a lesson to us all. Obviously, 156 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: you never whatever. You don't put your adult partner on 157 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: a countdown anything. If you don't call me back in 158 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: five minutes, if you don't whatever the countdown is, you 159 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: don't do that. You just do not. I don't know 160 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: how that. 161 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: Is never ends well, works an ultimatum, a countdown, It's 162 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: that is a huge relationship. No, no it. If you 163 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: have to do that, you got other issues and then 164 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 2: you doing that makes it way worse. 165 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So they christ and who would have been teaching 166 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: us a lot of lessons the past three episodes of 167 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: those last three episodes, and this was yet another one 168 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: that they taught. Now this led to them eventually Robes 169 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: breaking up. So and this leads us to the second 170 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: lesson we were talking about here. But they they break 171 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: up in the finale when everybody's supposed to be getting 172 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: together and thinking about a future. So this is where 173 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: we end up. But they do it in the most 174 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: It was a beautiful set up, all the dates. I 175 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: think this and maybe pepping an iris on the sailboat, yes, 176 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: that was cool. But this was a beautiful setting. They 177 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: had a beautiful meal. A singer came out that was awkward, hilarious, 178 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:25,239 Speaker 1: It's crazy. But here is my question day, what is 179 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: the right time place? Is there a proper way to 180 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: break up? Meaning? Is text always a bad idea? Over 181 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: the phone always a bad idea? Should it always be 182 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: done face to face? And if so, is it ever 183 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: okay to do it face to face in public? 184 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: Ooh okay, so text absolutely not never? 185 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: Okay, phone call? 186 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: I guess maybe if you're a long distance you might 187 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: not have another option, but you're not preferable. 188 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: We're going to say we're in town. We're all in town. 189 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: Okay, So no, no to that. Yes, it has to happen. 190 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: You have to give the other person enough respect to 191 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: at least do it in person. I believe it's hard. 192 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: Now I'll hit to the next part. They're doing it. 193 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: What if you're sitting in a restaurant you're sitting. They 194 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: weren't in a crowded restaurant, But what do you do there? 195 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: Is it? Should it always be a completely private thing? 196 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: Is it ever okay to be out at a bar, 197 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: at a dinner and in the relationship after the appetizers 198 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: kind of a thing. 199 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: So I have had a situation where someone started to 200 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 2: do that with me in a public place, and I 201 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: was so resentful of it because now you can't actually 202 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: feel what you want to feel. You're you're on display 203 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: in a sense, and you're put into a place of 204 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: pressure where you don't get to have the reaction that 205 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 2: you might want to have. 206 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: So that might have been the motivation in doing it 207 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: in public. 208 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: Exactly, And so it feels manipulative and it doesn't feel 209 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 2: good at all. So I don't think that that's ever 210 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: a good idea. I think it's got to I think 211 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: it should be a private moment where each person gets 212 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: to say how they feel without people watching them and 213 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 2: looking at them. Obviously, they were on national television, so 214 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: they had an audience regardless of where they were, if 215 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: they were in the hideaway or not. Maybe that would 216 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 2: have been the only way they could have done it 217 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: in private. But no, I don't if anyone out there 218 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: listening has ever been broken up with in public or 219 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 2: decided like you know how that feels. It feels. It 220 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: just feels terrible. It adds, it adds more suffering to 221 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: the already uncomfortable, difficult situation. 222 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I excuse me, there, Yeah, this one, and this 223 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: got awkward when this might have been the funniest moment. 224 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: But I give them credit. It was a good edit. 225 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: The singer comes out and it appeared that she was playing, 226 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: and she had a time, she had a cue if 227 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: you will, that a certain time she was supposed to 228 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: come out and sing a romantic song. They were in 229 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: the middle of a fight, in the middle of breaking up, 230 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: and she's singing some I think it was a beautiful zone. 231 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: But they cut some other version or some of the 232 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: song in which the lyrics then matched the moment where 233 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't going great. I thought it was a good edit, 234 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: but it was an awkward moment. But it made me 235 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: think about the idea of doing it in a public place, 236 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: To do it in a place where you expect that 237 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: person to be able to monitor. 238 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 2: There, Well, yeah, if you're afraid someone's going to be volatile. 239 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: I mean, don't they always say when your boss, Like 240 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: sometimes if you get taken out to lunch, that's when 241 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: you get fired. Like they do it on purpose so 242 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: you don't have an emotional reaction, so they can control 243 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: you in a controlled environment. So it's manipulative. 244 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: So these two broke up. We move on to the 245 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: next thing here ropes. They had these ceremonies where they 246 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: almost seem like they're a wedding ceremony, giving these little vows. 247 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: You grow to your vows. They went through all this, 248 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: but Huda and Chris were too. We stick with them 249 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: where they did have very nice, very nice and glowing 250 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: things to say about each other. Two points on this 251 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: again a relationship issue here, Ask yourself, can you can 252 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: you truly be friends with somebody after dating them? Can 253 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: you like truly like we go from we were partners 254 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: and living together and for three years and now we 255 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: broke up and we're just genuinely going to be friends. 256 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: Can that happens? Yes? 257 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 2: I think that can happen. I've seen it with other people. 258 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: I've never experienced that, Menita, but I do think it 259 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: and I don't want to imagine that. I know what's 260 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 2: going on inside anyone else's relationship. But I would venture 261 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: to say that it's likely there wasn't that passion between them. 262 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: So if you don't like some relationships aren't romantically passionate, 263 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: and if you don't have that all or nothing feeling 264 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 2: about that person, it might be much easier to say, hey, 265 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: I like you, but just not in that way, and 266 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: we figured it out over time and that way. In 267 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: those types of relationships, I think you can be friends. 268 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 1: Again. I've never experienced it. 269 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: I've never experienced it either. 270 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: I have never had a desire, nor have I for 271 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: it in the least bit. I thought it was interesting 272 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: that he when she said, hey, you make sure we 273 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: get together late and we have some common friends. You're 274 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: sure you're going to be cool, he was like, no, 275 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm not going to promise you or tell you that 276 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: everything's going to be okay. I guess people can be 277 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: in different places. I just don't get from the person 278 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: being dumped from the person being hurt, how we can 279 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: go back to a friendship. It seems difficult. 280 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: Chris seems like, well he was the hurt party, and 281 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 2: I also was kind of I was so impressed with him. 282 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 2: Huda announces to everybody. She actually said to the whole group, 283 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: I Chris wanted to continue outside of the villa, but 284 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: I just wanted to be friends. So she basically, in 285 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: front of all these folks they've been with for two months, 286 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 2: told everybody that Chris wanted me, but I didn't want him. 287 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: And he handled it with such class and such grace. 288 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: I was so impressed by him. And then even hearing 289 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: his speech to her, he was kind, he was loving, 290 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 2: he was gentle, and he, to me, was the one 291 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 2: who seemed like, I don't want to say the wronged party, 292 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 2: but the dumped party in a sense. And I just 293 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: thought he handled it so well. I was so impressed 294 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: with him, And I actually was impressed with her speech too, 295 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: because she talked about instead of look how many times 296 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: when you break up with someone or you're broken up 297 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: with you immediately go, he did this, and he did that, 298 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: and why did he have to do instead? She said, 299 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: here's what I learned about me. Here's what you taught me. 300 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: I needed to grow, I needed to be grounded, I 301 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 2: needed to I like what you said. She said that 302 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: he taught her how to have a more emotional connection 303 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: rather than a physical one, so I just thought about 304 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: this as an applicable learning tool. If you're in a 305 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: situation where you are breaking up with someone, Instead of 306 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: immediately going to say how the other person is bad 307 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: and wrong and horrible and all those things, if you 308 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: could just say what did I learn from this relationship? 309 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: And what did I learn about myself? And how can 310 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: I be a better partner for my next relationship. I 311 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: thought that was just a really cool way to think 312 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: about breaking up. 313 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: I want to point out as a part of this, 314 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: I want Everett, you and I talk about this all 315 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: the time. There are behaviors we can look on the 316 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: show and go, wow, I see that, but it's hard 317 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: for us to apply to ourselves. Chris did something last 318 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: night when she dumped him, for lack of a better phrase, there, 319 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: he reacted in a way I know you noticed we 320 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: haven't talked about this, but he immediately went into yeah, 321 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: it's good. Why don't you just tell me I knew 322 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: those Probably case you could tell that was pride. There 323 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: was ego, yes hurt, Yes he was hurt, so he 324 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: was trying to protect himself. I was saying, yeah, I 325 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: knew it. Anyway, ain't no sweat off my back. And 326 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: you can stop for a second. How many of us 327 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: have led that pride and that ego getting the way 328 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: in that moment and it led him to and this 329 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: is love, Chris. There were a couple of missteps. He 330 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't carry it back over the water. 331 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: That was tough. 332 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: He wouldn't carry back over the water. And I get 333 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: why that was difficult for him. But in that moment, 334 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: ask all of ourselves, when when you're hurt like that, 335 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: how do you react? And we often do that by 336 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: protecting ourselves with pride and ego, and sometimes it comes 337 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: out in a way that Chris isn't going to be 338 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: proud of. He looked like a jerk, not a gentleman, 339 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: and not loving. This is somebody you still care about, right, 340 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: She didn't slap you, she didn't cheat on you. You 341 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: still care about her. I know it's fresh, but in 342 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: those moments, I just if you stop everybody and just 343 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: look and see it happening there, and then go back 344 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: in your own world and look and see how you 345 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: reacted that way when you were hurt. It was pride, 346 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: it you know what? 347 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: It was so interesting. So when so Huda was crying 348 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: and he came back as he got up and left. 349 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: He came back, she was crying. I thought that maybe 350 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: he thought she had second thoughts, that maybe she was 351 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: just and he was going to call her bluff and 352 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: when she was kind of like, no, I'm I'm just 353 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: sad because you know, we are over, and I think 354 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 2: that was like an extra wound. I think when he 355 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: came back, he thought maybe she might have second thoughts, 356 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: or she might change her mind, or maybe she was 357 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: just posturing, and I think it was like an extra 358 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: punch to the gut. And that's why he was like, nah, 359 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not walking you over. So she had 360 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: to take her heels off, lift up her dress, and 361 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: walk because they were literally walking on water or through 362 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: water to get to their very romantic, beautiful table. 363 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: You're right. 364 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: And then the other thing he did, he refused to 365 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: sleep in the hideaway. Sorry, in the hideaway, he refused 366 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: to sleep with the group the final night and went out. 367 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: And that's fine. He didn't huff and pop, he didn't 368 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: make a scene. He didn't and I did appreciate that. 369 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: But he did what he needed to do, perhaps just 370 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: for his own ego and his own that. 371 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 1: Part I was okay with yeah, going to say that's 372 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: that's tough to sleep. 373 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 2: In the same bed with someone you just who you 374 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: just broke up with. 375 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: And you're surrounded by couples who are enjoying themselves and 376 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: like each other. That's tough. 377 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 2: I kept thinking about how hard that must have been 378 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 2: for him, and she was. You know, she did say 379 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: some very insensitive things like I'm free from the shackles 380 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: of a man. She came back and said that stuff. 381 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: That's not okay, that wasn't cool. I didn't cause he 382 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 2: just I thought for the most part, he he I 383 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 2: felt for him. I hurt for him. 384 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: Yah, He've made very few missed ups, even the ones 385 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: he made. You almost okay, you understood, all right, We'll 386 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: stay with us, folks. We got a couple more to 387 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: go through here, including the big one. Robot is going 388 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: to explain why Prince Charming just does not exist and 389 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: you need to get it out of your head right now. Also, friends, first, 390 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: apparently it actually does work, and ask yourself this right now. 391 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: Think about the last last person you broke up with. 392 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:15,239 Speaker 1: Do you have kind words to say about them? Right now? Hey, 393 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: the folks, we continue with our big thank you for 394 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: the cast of Love Island, USA for showing us all 395 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: what to do and what not to do sometimes in relationship. 396 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: With so many relationship lessons, We've gone through several of 397 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: them already. Rose. But right now, can I ask you, 398 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: do you have if you need it to say kind 399 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: words about your xxes? Could you write a speech almost 400 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: phrasing them? 401 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 2: I mean I could have some kind things to say, 402 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: for sure, but it'd be very hard to give a 403 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 2: speech about it, especially right after the breakup. That would 404 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 2: feel almost impossible with some distance in some years. Yes, 405 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 2: you could have some moments of reflection, how about you? 406 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 2: Could you? 407 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: No, absolutely not. I would never ever like I'm sitting 408 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: here right now and feeling physically ill about the idea 409 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: of potentially trying to put something together to something like 410 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: we saw last night. As a matter of you can 411 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: point out there were good things or positive traits about 412 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: somebody you're in a relationship with, And certainly if you 413 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: were in a relationship with anybody for any significant amount 414 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: of time, not every single moment and every single day 415 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: was bad. So there's got to be something in there. 416 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: But the idea of now putting yourself or putting myself 417 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: I should speak too in that position and what does 418 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: that say about me and those relationships that could be 419 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: for me? It's just a personal I'm not putting myself 420 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: in any mindset. Maybe it's an indication of how those 421 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: relationships ended I had. Yeah, well I had two divorces, 422 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: one bad, but the rest of my relationships hasn't been 423 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: an issue necessarily ending badly. But still that idea of 424 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: doing that is still after years is not something I'm 425 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: in a position today. 426 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 2: It's funny when you say it does make me feel 427 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: physically ill to think about. I don't know. What does 428 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 2: that say about it? 429 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: Don't know, says something about us or about the relationships. 430 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: I don't know, And some people might just be different, 431 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: like no, I don't of course I don't want to 432 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: do that. It's just like some people say, no, I 433 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: don't want to be friends with my ex. Yeah, don't 434 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: hate them, don't wish them any ill will Oh yeah. 435 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: I wish nothing but the best. But I don't want 436 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: anything to do and I don't want to you know, 437 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: I don't even want my brain or my energy to 438 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 2: go there. That just takes a lot. I again, I 439 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 2: was so super impressed with the ability of them to 440 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 2: say kind things about each other. 441 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: One side lesson here for everybody, and I know you're 442 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: on board with this. They go from a night at 443 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: the dinner, he doesn't want to carry her, she is crying. 444 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: She say, I'm free from the shackles of a man. 445 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: But then once they got just twenty four hours distance 446 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: from it, they were able to just calm down and 447 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: speak differently. That often happens in the moment. It's different. 448 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: You just think on it for a second, take a 449 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: little sleep, and you come back and go, Okay, I 450 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: shouldn't have said dad or But that was another example 451 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: right in front of us how they could go from 452 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: that to that if they just got a little rest 453 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: or separation from the moment. 454 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: That's true, that's good. That's a very important lesson to 455 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: learn in life from this show is that when you're 456 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: having even an argument with someone, you're still in a 457 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: relationship with man, if you can just take a beat 458 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: sometimes and just wait and let the emotion do what 459 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 2: it's going to do, and then let logic make better 460 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 2: choices for what comes out of your mouth. 461 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: All right, The last couple lessons here what having to 462 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,479 Speaker 1: do with friends, Oh, Nicko and Orlandry, I guess are 463 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: the best example people. 464 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: Talk about and and Iris and Pepe. They were both 465 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 2: of them, Both of those couples were just friends and 466 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: were helping each other navigate other romantic relationships in the villa. 467 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: Does that sound familiar, TJ? 468 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: Hey does? We talk about this all the time, And 469 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: several people who have come to us reached out to us, 470 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: even our Yahoo column, talking about looking for someone looking 471 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: like I'm trying to find someone to date, and we 472 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: have said, don't dismiss the fact that person might be 473 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: in your life right now and you ain't thinking about 474 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: them at all. In that way, we can raise our 475 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: hands and attest to that absolutely being the case. And 476 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: this last night to see it on display Nicko Orlandria 477 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: that though in Iris and Pepe, this wasn't just they 478 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: hooked up later, they were actively not even considering each other, 479 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: helping each other. Dat d yes. 480 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: And that's what you and you and I were literally 481 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: helping each other in our relationships. You would say, hey, 482 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 2: this is happening. What do you think? And I'd say, hey, 483 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: this is happening. What do you think? We were genuinely, 484 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: without any any other designs, leaning on each other. And 485 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: that's exactly what we saw happen out of two out 486 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 2: of the four couples in the final four. I actually 487 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: wanted I actually wrote down what Landria said because I 488 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 2: thought it was so cool. She said, I really think 489 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 2: the foundation to a great relationship is always friendship. When 490 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: there are no expectations and no pressure, the person standing 491 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: by you through it all may actually be the person 492 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: you were meant to find. That spoke to me obviously 493 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: because of our relationship, know what, and no pressure, she said, 494 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: no expectations and no pressure, and that is when actually 495 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 2: you get to know a person. You're not putting on airs. 496 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 2: You're not putting your best foot forward in the sense 497 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: like hey, I want you to think I'm hot, or 498 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 2: hey I want you to think I'm cool. You're just 499 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: being yourself. And when you can fall in love with 500 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: that person, it's kind of amazing, and you're. 501 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: I get you're ultimately you're setting yourself, you're setting yourself 502 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: up for success, and you don't even realize you said 503 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: putting on airs. This idea that I always say, We'll 504 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: say it all the time. When you meet somebody for 505 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: the first time, at first start dating, you're only meeting there. 506 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: Representative and you're not going to meet the actual just 507 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: sending that person in to represent. 508 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: Them and the best version of themselves. 509 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: Until it's time for you to meet the ree of them. 510 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: But when you because you have an expectation that this 511 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: person wants this, or we're going to be this eventually, 512 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: or we could get married. So yeah, you behave differently 513 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: when you just have a friend who is burping in 514 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: front of you and chewing their food funny, and we'll 515 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: drink and get a mess with you and you have 516 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: to help them home sometime and you hear them all 517 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: the messy parts because it's a friend and you You 518 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: are learning to grow in love with someone because of 519 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: who they are and not because of what they represent 520 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: in your life or could potentially represent. That changes everything 521 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: it actually does. So now I'm sitting here with you. 522 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: You could do all kinds of outlandish ish, but I 523 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: know you as a friend. First. You have done things 524 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: to me as a partner that don't mean to life. No, 525 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying the point there is the only 526 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: reason you can get away with that is because I 527 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: know you and the foundation as a friend first. The 528 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: only reason if we were just dating and I only 529 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: started like, well, I'll be like, way, hey, you remember 530 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: in month two, where's that girl? She was awesome? Bring 531 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: her back? 532 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 2: That's so funny, right, we don't have that experience, we 533 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: we you know, and yes that I think we were. 534 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: We got closest at your lowest, lowest point. And when 535 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 2: you see all the ugly and you don't have any 536 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: intention about actually being romantic with that person and you 537 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: accept them for who they are, and then the romance 538 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: comes later, it's because that's a part of it. You 539 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 2: knew them at their worst, you've known them at their worst. 540 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: But you know, I know that you weren't being careful 541 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: in some minutes and trying some moments, are trying to 542 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: hide something from it, you know good, and hell, well 543 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to hide. So it's not like you're 544 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: having to know. We don't have to wonder where the 545 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: other is coming from and what the others really thinking 546 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: about the other's behavior or what does that issue mean. 547 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: We've seen it all as friends, and yes, when either 548 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: one of us behaves badly, when I get too quiet 549 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: after a fight, when it goes for four days and 550 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: you've gotten better, you've seen it, Yes, you've so you 551 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: don't have to take it so first. Those things are 552 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: so key, and I thought that was cool. The two 553 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: out of the four genuinely and we saw genuinely them 554 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: not be interested in each other. 555 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: They didn't have like romantic or sexual designs on one 556 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 2: another initially. 557 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: All right, and the last one here, folks, if y'all 558 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: are believers in prince charming, please and all of your 559 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: hate messages to one Miss Amy Robot. I'm gonna let you. 560 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: You know I will, because look, and I said this, 561 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 2: Amaya and Brian were adorable. I am rooting for them. 562 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: I hope they write off into the sunset together to 563 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 2: use a fairy tale phrase, but I did it. It 564 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 2: was a little bit of a red flag because I know, Amaya, 565 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: I used to be you, and I think so many 566 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: of us girls are. We watch these rom coms, and 567 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 2: I did see someone write a really interesting article about 568 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: how Love Island USA is kind of the new rom 569 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: com for younger women of this generation because we don't 570 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 2: necessarily have the prince charming, the pretty woman type of 571 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: theme anymore, because that's uncool, that it's not woke, because 572 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: you shouldn't. The happiness isn't finding your prince but still, 573 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: deep down, I think that narrative is in so many 574 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: of us girls. And I heard Amaya, even just in 575 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 2: the finale, make more than four references of Brian. Makes 576 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: me feel like fairy tales are real? She calls him. 577 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: Is that my prince? She said, every decision led me 578 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: to you, my prince Charming. She had this whole narrative 579 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 2: of him being prince Charming. And when you listen to 580 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: their speeches to one another, their representatives were praising the 581 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 2: other's representative and that I get that they're heady and 582 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 2: that new love, that feeling of being in love and excited. 583 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: But what they do is they put each other up 584 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: on these pedestals. You know what, I'm thinking, You're there 585 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 2: for me, no matter what. I can be myself in 586 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 2: front of you. Are you really being yourself in this 587 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: idealistic bubble? I just worry because when you fall in 588 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 2: love with the best version of someone and they haven't 589 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: had the opportunity of getting into the messiness of real life, 590 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 2: and how hard that struggle is and how sometimes divisive 591 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: that can be because you don't actually but when you 592 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: start thinking, we think all the same things, we love, 593 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: all the same things, you start getting this image or 594 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: picture of what it should be and what it is. 595 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: But actually it's just the tip of the icebreak, and 596 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: so I just worry, so worry. 597 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: But shouldn't it start like that? Shouldn't we be worried 598 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: if you don't start off with all the butterflies? Shouldn't 599 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: you be as hopeful and Disney princess. 600 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: As ever can be hopeful? But with but you have 601 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 2: to have a real like they're like, it's gonna get ugly, 602 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: and he's not always he's not always gonna think what 603 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: I do is he's not always going to like what 604 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: I say or do or this she has the zoomis 605 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: she's I am going to annoy him? Her running around 606 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: like she just gets lots of energy. Yeah, but like you, 607 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: I think you have to like it's it's scary. I 608 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: think it's dangerous to think that all of my crazy 609 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: he loves and thinks it's adorable. It's it just. 610 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: Its yes, but he should right now? 611 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: Right? What? 612 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: What did? 613 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: What have you said to me? Which we you say 614 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: it in a in a much more realistic way that 615 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: makes me laugh. You've said this to me when we started, 616 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: like maybe even probably in that first year when we 617 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: were romantic. 618 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: You said, what to me, If I start finding your 619 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: little quirks annoying, we're in trouble. There are little things 620 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: everybody does. Somebody right now, every every woman, every man 621 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: listening can think of one thing that the person ever 622 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: relationship more than what does that annoy? That is just annoying? 623 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: And if you think about it, has it gotten more 624 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: annoying over the years? Usually yes, the first year, Oh 625 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: it's my girl. Second year and like, whoof, it's still 626 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: at it? Third year, like are you fucking kidding me? 627 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: Fourth year? I don't want us to eat together all 628 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: but it goes. But you should start out, it should, 629 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: shouldn't we all? I don't want to. I get what 630 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: you're saying, and I guess you're right. But this idea 631 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: of taking away this fantasy, this idea, idealistic, right, is 632 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: what we should say of a prince charming coming in 633 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: and what that represents now is not just a prince 634 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: from a Disney movie. Your princes can be somebody with 635 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: a job with health insurance, who wants to have kids, 636 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: who comes from a good family. That's still a prince charming, 637 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: is it not? But we talk about sweeping you off 638 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: your feet and taking care of you and making you 639 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: feel like a princess always. 640 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 2: I think it puts a lot of pressure on men, 641 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: and I think it creates I always say that expectations 642 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: are the thief of joy, because you have this expectation 643 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: that someone's going to do this for you and do 644 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: that for you and make you feel a certain way. 645 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: You always say nobody can make you feel anything. I 646 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: actually think people. I actually think people can make you 647 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: feel something. But you get to choose how you respond 648 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 2: to it. But you can acknowledge the feeling and say, wait, 649 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 2: what is it about me that's feeling this way, and 650 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: not point the finger at the other person. But I do. 651 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 2: It's not that I want to believe I love a 652 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: rom com, I love happy endings. Who doesn't. But I 653 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: just get worried when these kids are young, and I 654 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: sound so old right now and have had just enough 655 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: experience and relationships to know that I just I always 656 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: just want to warn young women, like, yes, relationships can 657 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 2: be beautiful, and yes, it's fun to be able to 658 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: say that man's going to take care of me in 659 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: my emotional needs and physical needs and all of the above. 660 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: But at a certain point you just have to remember 661 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 2: you have to be You have to be that person 662 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: for yourself, and that other person, your partner can supplement 663 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: and bring joy to your life, but they can't be 664 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 2: your source of joy, and they can't be your source 665 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: of being saved. You have to save yourself. You have 666 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 2: to love yourself. And I know that sounds cheesy, but 667 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: I just get worried because I do think that was 668 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: in my head and it was probably a cause of 669 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: a lot of suffering from me and a lot of 670 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 2: bad choices and relationships because I think us women, a 671 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: lot of us are looking for that. Maybe younger generations 672 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: are not so much. I think that a lot of 673 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: women are or young girls are changing what they expect. 674 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: But I just I heard that. I saw that, and 675 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: it resonated with me, and I thought, ooh, just let's 676 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: not get too far into this prince charm? 677 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: And how and what age were you before you figured 678 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: that out? Right? That's why I say they're young and whatnot? 679 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: What you described about the fantasy things, I didn't figure 680 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: that stuff out until I was early. 681 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: Forties, probably same, I would say it was in my 682 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: late thirties. I think early forties. It all comes crashing 683 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 2: down like what I don't well, just crashing down because 684 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 2: you built up this fantasy. You build up these expectations, 685 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: and it's unfair to your partner. 686 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: Truly expectations. 687 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 2: Are you talking about the person is going to make 688 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 2: me happy? This person is going to take care of 689 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 2: me no matter what. This person is going to support me. 690 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's enough. Okay, that drives me great. Anything 691 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: I hear this person makes me happy. I stop you 692 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: in your tracks. Anytime you even say that to me 693 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: about me making you happy, that I can't make you anything. 694 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: I always say you make me laugh. 695 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: I can't make you laughing, Yes you can? Okay, well, folk, 696 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: This has been quite a turn from covering the Ditty trial. 697 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: Every day we got a chance to, we talked about this. 698 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: We would have probably been covering this every single day, 699 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: but the Ditty trial had us putting out all those updates. 700 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: But this has been fun. It has been interesting, it 701 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: has been serious, and it's been silly. It's been fun 702 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: to be able to, no matter what what side of 703 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: the aisle you're on, where you live in the country, 704 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: what everybody is dealing with relationships, even if you're not 705 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: in one and have no desire for one. You got friendships, 706 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: you got coworkers, you. 707 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 2: Got every children, parents, Human. 708 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: Relation is was the Dolly Loma quote you said. He said, 709 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: you can survive without you. 710 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: Can't survive without what human connection? 711 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: Human connection? That's what an affection, that's what he said. 712 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: So we appreciate you all joining us along for this. 713 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: This has been fun for robes. Not kind of I'm happy. 714 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm kind of happy it's over, and that the conversations 715 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: robes we've had. It also highlighted some nastiness about how 716 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: we view these folks folks on TV, and how we 717 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: treat them. It's it's been the toughest season in terms 718 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: of I guess some of the bullying, cyberbullying as they've 719 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: been calling. 720 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there were so many lessons in that too, 721 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: that these folks are human beings who have parents and 722 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: children and brothers and sisters, and so I hope everyone 723 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 2: learned not just lessons in relationships, but also lessons and 724 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 2: how we should be treating one another and treating ourselves. So, yes, 725 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 2: thank you. I'm actually like, I want to know what 726 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: the next one is. I'm a little sad it's over. 727 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: I love this, I love learning I love. It's great 728 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 2: to be entertained and to learn something in the process, 729 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: and I think that's what Love Island, USA was able 730 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 2: to do. So can't wait for season eight. 731 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: Well, the only we do not we have not been 732 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: coming on here. We do not criticize these Islanders, and 733 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: we do not criticize these producers of the show peacock 734 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: nothing and how they go about it about it. But 735 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: there's one thing I would put in the suggestion box. 736 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: Stop with the slow mo. Y. 737 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: Yes, agreed, that's what I got. We're like ew ew. 738 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: We were watching with our daughters even they were saying 739 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: ew too much, and. 740 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: The audio of it is felt like I was watching 741 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: the substance all over again with all. 742 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 2: The body horror. I think that's a great note to 743 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 2: end on. Thank you all for listening to us. We 744 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: appreciate you and hope you all have a wonderful day.