1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:01,040 Speaker 1: And we're back. 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: Happy Football twenty twenty five to you and yours. 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: That was fun, wasn't it? Everybody? 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 3: It was? 5 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: Welcome to another season of the Bark Tank, presented to 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: you by Sugardale. I made a quick trip to the 7 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 2: home office today. We're so happy you're here with us 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: on a victory Monday as we sit here and record this. 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: This is the Bark Tank presented by Sugardale. My name 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: is ANDREWS Ciciliano. After a Brown's victory thirty to ten 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: over the Carolina Panthers Friday Night lights down in Charlotte 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: last week, a game in which Shador Sanders friends look 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: the part. You've seen the highlights by now you've likely 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: heard the miked up segment that the Browns content team 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: did such great work with. Check it out in Cleveland 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 2: Browns dot Com shaudor micd up and his interaction there 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 2: with Miles Garrett on the sideline hysterical. Go check it 18 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 2: out a little bit later when you're done with this pod. 19 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: But let's just step back for a couple of seconds 20 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: here and get away from the hype and go go 21 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: to Friday afternoon, Friday evening when we're in the booth 22 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: or or Friday night when we're on the field before 23 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 2: the game began, I said to Nathan Zieger, my partner 24 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: in girod Cherry, our partner, down to the sideline, and 25 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: I said, guys, as I'm excited, I am as excited 26 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: I beg your pardon for this game as I have 27 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: been for any Browns preseason game in recent memory. Now, 28 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 2: we've said all summer, ever since the draft, that these 29 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: preseason games with a legitimate quarterback battle will mean something, 30 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 2: as will the joint practice with the Panthers, and the 31 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: two joint practices coming up this week with the Philadelphia Eagles. 32 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: And guess what they do mean something? And guess what 33 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,279 Speaker 2: should or Sanders look the part. Forget about the stats 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: for a second, look at the little things. 35 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: Look at the. 36 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: Way he moved in the pockets right, and give credit 37 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: to Amani Marshall, undrafted rookie free agent running back from 38 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: Mapp State who picked up that blitz and then should 39 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: or slid to his right, and then he found Caden 40 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: Davis and he threw it low where only Davis can 41 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: get a great accuracy. Go to the first touchdown where 42 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: he's rolling to his left and he throws that layered 43 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: ball into the corner in Davis again, makes a very 44 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: nice player. 45 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: There's a lot of traffic. 46 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: It's one of those where when you throw it your 47 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: leg Oh no, even though they're all twenty two, there 48 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: are a lot of hands there, but you do with 49 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 2: great accuracy. Look at the ball that he hit to 50 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: Luke Floria down the sideline again, out of the pocket, 51 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: Luke with an amazing one handed catch. Those are the 52 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 2: plays you want to see your rookie, or for that matter, 53 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: any quarterback make. And he did it with limited reps 54 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: in practice. 55 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: Now all of you, and I say, you don't mean 56 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: necessarily Browns fans. 57 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: A lot of this was just national media noise that 58 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: wanted to say, well, bad setup, guys, barely practice, why 59 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 2: do you throw him out there? I counter with this, 60 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: who doesn't want opportunity? All of us want opportunity, and 61 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: when the lights go on and given the opportunity to 62 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 2: show what you can do, he did it. Who doesn't 63 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: want opportunity, Who doesn't want a chance. He was given 64 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: the chance. He did the job, and yes, it'll be 65 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: fascinating now moving forward. I loved his interview on the 66 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: sideline with a friend of Dde Kinkawala on the News 67 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: five broadcast. Great job, by the way, Chris and Joe. 68 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: I watched when I came home and Addy, of course 69 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 2: he gave himself a c if I recall, like a 70 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: grade A letter grade. 71 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: Right, he was. 72 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 2: Self deprecating, self critical on the sideline and afterwards on 73 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: the podium as well. Right, that's great, like understanding there 74 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: is more to improve on. Understanding that was far from 75 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: a great game, but understanding that when given the opportunity, 76 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: you better believe he seized it. 77 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah he did. 78 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: And now the quarterback competition gets that much more interesting 79 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: because Dylan Gabriel is easing back into form. He was 80 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: able to practice on Monday. Kenny Pickett did some seven 81 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: on seven stuff as well. He's gonna get back Joe 82 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: Flacco working with the ones primarily on Monday. People say, well, 83 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: what do you read in to the fact that Flacco 84 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: didn't play. Well, Look, Flacco is likely going to start, 85 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: for my money, this is just me week one. That 86 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: could change a lot of time between now. 87 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: And week one. 88 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: But the Browns starters did not play and Joe Flacco 89 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: is healthy, so you figure it out. At least where 90 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: we stood on Friday night Joe Flacco. During the joint 91 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 2: practice on Wednesday, there were eight quarterbacks dressed, including Tyler 92 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: Huntley and then the three for Carolina. You had Bryce Young, 93 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: Andy Dalton, and Jack Cooker. Joe Flacco threw the best 94 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: ball of those eight quarterbacks now standing on the field 95 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: on Wednesday. 96 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: How does it go moving forward? 97 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: I don't know, but the headline here and you could 98 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 2: feel good about it is Shador Sanders looked the part 99 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: and made the quarterback conversation that much more interesting. Let's 100 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: point out other guys that look good as well. I 101 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: have said, and I've said it all summer that if 102 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 2: you want to take the quarterback conversation out of it, 103 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 2: just briefly, the other Browns rookies this class from April 104 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: will determine the future, truly, just as much as the 105 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: quarterbacks will. Mason Graham played well. Carson Swessinger had six 106 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 2: tackles in twelve plays. Asking for a friend. 107 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: Is that good? It's good. 108 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: Dylan Sampson didn't get much run. Harold fan and didn't 109 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: get much run. What does that tell you? It tells 110 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: you They're going to be a huge part of this 111 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: team from day one. Because if they're barely out there right, 112 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: what does that mean? Means they've already showed enough. They're 113 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: going to be a huge part of this team. Week 114 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: one against the Cincinnati Bengals at Huntington bank Field on 115 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: September seventh. Also looking pretty good, undrafted guys like Luke Floria. 116 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: Now unfortunately on that beautiful thirty yard catch down the 117 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: right sideline where he tipped to himself, Floria pulled a 118 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: and the Browns today have. 119 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: Waived him with an injury designation. It's heartbreaking. 120 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: A guy who grew up going to Browns games his 121 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: dad Joe season tickets, used to go to camp, used 122 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: to go to games with a jersey on. He looks 123 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: so good at training camp, so good, and he looked 124 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: really good out there with that great catch in front 125 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: of the national TV audience. But as soon as he 126 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: caught it, he grabbed that hammy and he has the 127 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: injury designation. Gage Larvadan friends had the touchdown to the 128 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: end around. He was also making plays in practice on Monday, 129 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 2: and he has now a legitimate shot, in my opinion, 130 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: to make this team. He's listed on your roster as 131 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: South Carolina, but Gage Larvadan played on Miami of Ohio. 132 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: Before that, he played at a school in Louisiana, initially 133 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: out of high school. He's a New Orleans kid, but 134 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: Gage larvadn keep an eye on that name. And again 135 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 2: Larva Daan, not Larvadanian or like a lot of people 136 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: have messed it up, it is Larviadan. He stood out 137 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: as well. Coming up shortly, we're going to talk to 138 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 2: a guy that stood out on the defensive side that 139 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: I love. I'm excited for you to get to know 140 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: Tony Brown or as he now calls himself, Apex, and 141 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: he may even fingers crossed. He may even bring his 142 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: staff with him. You saw the staff as he entered 143 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: Bank of America standing on Friday night with shud Or Sanders, 144 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: and he got a lot of National pub I'm laughing, 145 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: not at Tony Brown or Apex. I'm laughing because I 146 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: love the guy, Nathan, and I love the guy. He 147 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: truly is one of our favorite people at the Cross 148 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: Country Mortgage campus, and I'm excited that you get a 149 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: chance to meet him, also standing out for the Browns. 150 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm laughing. I thought Luke Whipler did really 151 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: well at Center. He started playing the majority of the 152 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: first half. It is vital this year for the Browns 153 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: to find depth on the offensive line, Whipler and Zack 154 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: Center being two huge pieces, one in his third year, 155 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: one in his second year. Zach Center didn't make the trip, 156 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: but he should be good to going back in practice 157 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: this week. So that is significantly. Luke Whippler and he's 158 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: miked up, or rather you could hear him on that 159 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: should or twelve minute miked up at Cleveland Browns dot com. 160 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: You could hear him talking to your quarterback. I thought 161 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: Luke Whipler played well as well. Amani Marshall ran hard 162 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: and picked up a block. Ask any coach in the NFL, 163 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: any coach right, what do you need from a rookie 164 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: running back? It's blitz pick up. Running the football is great, sure, 165 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: but can I trust you on third down? The second 166 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: should or Sanders touchdown past Decaden Davis happened because of 167 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 2: Amni Marshall, who not only ran well, but was back 168 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: in his old stomping grounds played at app State in Boone, 169 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: North Carolina. And we should also tip the cap to 170 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: thirty five Toatwa. I'm sorry, yes toa tower. Sometimes I 171 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: had a mental block on his name. It's the right 172 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 2: way to say it. I memorize it fifteen times. Former 173 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: UFL Michigan panther Guy was out of football. Guy was 174 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: working at a golf course right UFL called. He scored 175 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: six touchdowns in a limited amount of games. He wasn't 176 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: in camp. The Browns had some running back injuries. He 177 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: get him in a camp. Dude, that guy runs over people, 178 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: shoulder square, gets downhill. Look if you might be a 179 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: long shot to make the running back room when you 180 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: get to camp as late as you do, it's just 181 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: a numbers game. But that guy ran through people, all right. 182 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: I mentioned our man Tony Brown, also known as Apex. 183 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: I am beyond thrilled that you get a chance to 184 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: get to know. Like I said, I can't be more happy, 185 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: more thankful that this dude is here on the Bark 186 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: Tank presented by Sugardale. He brought ex caliber Tony Brown, Apex. 187 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: We will get to ex caliber in a second. First 188 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 2: of all, just welcome after a great game to this 189 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 2: pod which is called the Bark Tank. 190 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: So Tony, you are in the Bark Tank. 191 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 3: My friend, blessed, bless pleasure to be here. I'm honored 192 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: to be here. Thank you for having me, Thank you 193 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 3: for having me us aught I got right. 194 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: Now everything well, we're blessed and honored as well. Before 195 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: we talk about all the national hype and ex caliber 196 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: and the entrance on Friday, let's talk. 197 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: About you, because you deserve your flowers here. Tony. 198 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: You didn't play a single defensive snap last year special 199 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: teams demon than the injury. Then you went on the shelf, 200 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: but you played thirty two defensive snaps Friday. And it 201 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: wasn't just hey, he's out there. You're hitting people, You're 202 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: lowering shoulders and breaking up passes. As the second guy 203 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: in you're going stride for stride with a top ten 204 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 2: pick a guy who's four or five inches taller than 205 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: you and Ted McMillan, and you're blanketing him. You're not 206 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: just a special teams guy. How good did that feel 207 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 2: Friday night? 208 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 4: Well, first and most foremost, it was a blessing just 209 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: to be out there, to have the opportunity to be 210 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 4: what I needed to be for my brothers on the field, 211 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 4: not just for myself. It always, uh, you know, fulfills 212 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 4: a hole in you whenever you know the work that 213 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 4: you put in you know, you get the outcome that 214 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 4: you that you saw in your brain, that you envisioned 215 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 4: from the work that you put in prior to So 216 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 4: it was a very nice feeling to be that guy 217 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 4: who I said I was gonna be for myself, for 218 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 4: my family, and for my brothers. 219 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: And it sends a message because with MJ down, I 220 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: mean next man up at corner, did it send the message, 221 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: Hey man, I can be that guy. I can be 222 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 2: a guy that it isn't just in on teams and 223 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 2: isn't just chilling with Bubba, like I can be someone 224 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: who contributes defensively. 225 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 4: In the defensive back room, the corners room specifically, we 226 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 4: pride ourselves on you're only as strong as the weakest link. 227 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 4: Everyone in the defensive back room comes in the room 228 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 4: with the mind state of a starter. Because football is 229 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 4: one hundred percent injury rate, there's no guarantee that one 230 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 4: corner will play the whole season, and you're only as 231 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: good as the next man up. So in my brain, 232 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 4: I'm always preparing like I'm a starter. I'm always you know, 233 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 4: preparing that I'm the next man up. And I also 234 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: want to say I'm still gonna be there for Bubba 235 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: regardless of anything in that role. But you know it didn't. 236 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 4: It's not surprising or shocking. I don't think to anyone 237 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: in the room, you know the success that I had 238 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 4: what I was in, or that anyone has while I'm in, 239 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 4: and there will be continued success in the dB room 240 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 4: because that is the mindset that we attack practice with 241 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 4: every day. 242 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were not surprised. 243 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: Nathan and I call on the game upstairs, were in 244 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: no way surprised. We loved it too. When you're going 245 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: up against tat McMillan, what was that matchup? Like, here's 246 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: a top ten guy, a guy that he's getting all 247 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: this hype. You know, Bryce Young is gonna look at him. 248 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: He was in there in the second half as well, 249 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: and you're going stride for stride and get physical and 250 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: manning him up. 251 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh, you know, we just see numbers out there. 252 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 4: It's not you know, it's the NFL. It's not you know. 253 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 4: I've I've this is my eighth year in NFL. I've 254 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 4: seen and covered illustrious names that there's names and numbers 255 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 4: on the field. There is no point out there when 256 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 4: I'm oh, this is X y Z, this is not 257 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 4: this is just this is the guy that's in front 258 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 4: of me. I'm gonna stick to my technique and I'm 259 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 4: going to force him to do something based off of 260 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 4: my technique. I'm not going to change my technique based 261 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 4: off of him. There's going to be a receivering matrix 262 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 4: based on you know, the receivers strong suits off their number, 263 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: not off their name. So it's always off the number 264 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 4: where they're aligned that you know, the personnel grouping. Those 265 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 4: are things that go through my brain. It's never like heyo, 266 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 4: this is who it is. You know, I am who 267 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 4: I am APEX. 268 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: So, first of all, you are not a member of 269 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: Sugar Sanders entourage, as I heard some people referred to 270 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: you online. 271 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: You heard that, right, I definitely heard that. 272 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 3: I've heard that. 273 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: I remember the rage during your eighth NFL season. 274 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: You're a good football player. So I was on the 275 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: bus that music was playing on the bus. You guys, 276 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 2: you guys get off the bus and you had the 277 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: big entrance. First of all, that was your uh speaker 278 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: that you were Okay, how big is that speaker? 279 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: Bag? 280 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: And that was my bagman said, I was hearing his bed. 281 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: That was my bad. 282 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: Okay, how big is that speaker? I can't give it was. 283 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 5: It was like it's like, uh, I guess three ft 284 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 5: three feet all I guess okay? 285 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: And that was Shador's unreleased song correct okay, and it 286 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: kept playing on a loop. 287 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, how did you guys come up with this? 288 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 4: So I'm a veteran right on the team is a great, great, 289 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 4: awesome young player. I have a lot of respect for 290 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 4: what he represents as a son, as a football player, 291 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: and as someone who persevered a situation that everyone in 292 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 4: the world saw that everyone in the world that was 293 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 4: watching in my life right, And this goes along with 294 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 4: the staff. 295 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: I have a. 296 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 4: Gift to empower people with me being my authentic self 297 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 4: and me having like the power of what's the word 298 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 4: I'm looking for. I'll find it later in this part, 299 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 4: but like, I want to empower people. So, as I 300 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 4: was talking to and we found out he's starting, I'm 301 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 4: very close with him since the first day I met him, 302 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 4: Like I told him, Hey, I want to be the 303 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 4: guy you can go to whenever you know with anything, bro, 304 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 4: when you're head, when you bump jell no wall, we 305 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 4: don't understand this. 306 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: And so we were developing great rapport. 307 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 4: All through OTA's up to now, and when I found 308 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 4: out he had to start, I'm like, Yo, this is 309 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: my opportunity. 310 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: I want to make sure that that. 311 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 4: He is exactly what he needs to be on game day, 312 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 4: regardless of any other factors to have to do with anything. 313 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 4: Forget that outside world, forget this that that that Hey shave. 314 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 4: Should there Sha be like what do you need for 315 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 4: you to be your best out there on the field, 316 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 4: And like we got to talking like this is what 317 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna need do do do do? I'm like, all right, listen. 318 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 4: As a young player, you can like second guess like 319 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 4: oh man, but people are gonna judge like they did judge, 320 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 4: like they're gonna judge me if I do what You're 321 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 4: gonna Listen, Bro, at the end of the day, you 322 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: are the one playing. You are the one throwing the ball, 323 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 4: You are the one taking the steps. You are the 324 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 4: one that's gonna lead us on the field today, regardless 325 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 4: of what rounds you went, regardless of how everything shook out. 326 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 4: It just so happens that the first time the Browns 327 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 4: putting jerseys on, you should are all the starter. So 328 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 4: that's the only thing that matters. So we need to 329 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 4: attack this game exactly as you envision yourself being in 330 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 4: the NFL. Like I talked to him about how you know, 331 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 4: the interviews he said, how he talked how he could 332 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 4: change a franchise, how he could do this. I'm like, 333 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 4: this is a great moment in order to prove it 334 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 4: to you, not just to yourself, but like to the world, 335 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 4: to anyone that you thought doubted you, Like, this is 336 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 4: the opportunity. So as we were talking through like, yo, 337 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 4: I gotta go, I gotta go full Shadeer, I'm like, Okay, Bell, 338 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 4: let's go full. So I'm like, so that was That 339 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 4: was the biggest thing. I like to empower young guys 340 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 4: because I love everything represents as second generation of excellence. 341 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 4: I have the highest level of respect for what his 342 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 4: father's done with his children and for what his father 343 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 4: brought to the NFL, to the game of football. You know, 344 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 4: I met Dion when I was a senior in high school. 345 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 4: With the Undarmer game, my shoulder popped out and he 346 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 4: had a quick conversation with me just about perseverance. And 347 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 4: I don't even know if he remembers, but you know, 348 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 4: that's the amout I look up to and so just 349 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 4: in that respect that I had for his father, like 350 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 4: I felt the responsibility to empower this young man to 351 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 4: go have a to feel as comfortable in his skin 352 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 4: as he can to go beat a great player that 353 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 4: he is. 354 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we saw that on the field on Friday night. 355 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 2: I used to work with this old man at the 356 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 2: NFL network, So I feel old here all of this. Tony, 357 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: real quick, because we got like a minute remaining. Let's 358 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 2: say hype amphetically because it's. 359 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: A quarterback competition. 360 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 2: Don't know yet who's going to start in Philadelphia, but huh, 361 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: let's say Kenny Pickett came to you it's going to 362 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 2: start and so and said, Apex, I want to walk 363 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: through the tunnel with you and your speaker. What song 364 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: is Kenny Pickett playing? 365 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett is probably gonna play What's the Guy to 366 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 4: See Tennessee Whiskey? And yes, yes, he's probably going to 367 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 4: play a type of some type of country pop, but 368 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 4: like like the pop kind of not rap, but like 369 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 4: the country pop just a little bit. 370 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: That's what probably? What what what Kenny Pickett will play? 371 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: Okay, this is good. What would Dylan Gabriel play? D G? 372 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 3: D G might play like original apex. 373 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 4: I got a lot of music that that nobody has 374 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 4: heard yet, but one of your Yes, but believe Cleveland 375 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 4: Browns fans, you're storing some good stuff though. 376 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 3: But yes, gg you probably played one of the unreleased apex. 377 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: So what would Snoop Huntley play? 378 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 4: Ah? 379 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: Snoop might come with some Kodak okay, I can go there. 380 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: And then finally, Tony Bryan apex. What would Joe Flacco play? 381 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 3: Ah, Joe Flacco. 382 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 4: God, that's a good one, honestly, To be honest, I 383 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 4: don't think that I've even I don't think I've even 384 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 4: seen Joe vib to music yet, to be honest, I haven't. 385 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: I haven't even. 386 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 5: Seen I haven't even seen Joe like he's hurts from 387 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 5: my music, but I haven't actually seen him like vibe 388 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 5: to music yet. So just to go out on a limb, 389 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 5: to go out on a complete limb, maybe Drake, I 390 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 5: don't know, Maybe Drake, I don't know. I don't know, 391 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 5: and I'm just I don't know. I don't know what Joe. 392 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 5: That's a that's a that's a big question mark. 393 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 3: I don't know that one. 394 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: I been Tony, come on, he might just look at 395 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: you and just go the hell out of here. Man. 396 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 3: I don't know what Joe, Man, I don't know what's smoking, Joe. 397 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 3: I don't know that one. 398 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: That's a good one, Apex, Tony Brown. I appreciate this. 399 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: I hope we can continue it later. Happy to see 400 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: you play the way you did on Friday. Brown's get 401 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 2: a win. Thirty unanswered and now it is on to Philadelphia. Man, 402 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 2: good luck, I will see you. Thanks, and for the record, 403 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 2: I just want to make something clear. It's APEX with 404 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: a three ap three X is how our friend Tony 405 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: Brown spells his name. 406 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: Love him. We will have him back. 407 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 2: Looking ahead to Philadelphia, as we mentioned, Browns have two 408 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: days to joint practice Wednesday and Thursday. 409 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: Friday is an off day, and then a. 410 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: Matinee on Saturday at Lincoln Financial Rod Cherry, Nathan ziegerret 411 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 2: yours truly, please join us at one o'clock. Let's go 412 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: around the AFC North real quick. Let's give you some 413 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 2: other news in the league. Time now for what's sizzlin. 414 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: Brought to you by Sugardale. In the AFC North, the 415 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: Ravens played on Friday and they had yet another injury, 416 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: this time it's Robert longer Beam. You may not know him. 417 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: He's a sixth round rookie corner out of Rutgers. I 418 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: had one of his games last year. He's a physical 419 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: corner that would have given them some really good depth 420 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 2: this year. It's also a very deep position. Regardless he 421 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 2: goes on injured reserve, Robert longer Beam is out for 422 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: the season. In Pittsburgh, Aaron Rodgers did not play in 423 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 2: the Steelers preseason opener. However, Skyler Thompson looked pretty good. Also, 424 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 2: there is news out of Pittsburgh reportedly that both Cam 425 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: Hayward and kicker Chris Boswell aren't necessarily holding in, but 426 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: they have him been doing much, especially Hayward, and that 427 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: both would like new contracts. And in Cincinnati, the Browns 428 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: Week one opponent September seventh at Huntington bank Field, Joe 429 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: Burrow Jamar Chase looked the part certainly on Thursday night 430 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 2: as they played the entire first quarter. So gone are 431 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: the days of the Bengals playing no in the preseason. 432 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: They say they don't want to be rusty week one. 433 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 2: We got a couple of weeks until Week one. We 434 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: will see if that actually works. In the Browns home 435 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: opener at Huntingdon bank Field. 436 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: Let's go to do it. 437 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: Tune in next week for another edition of The Marktank, 438 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: presented by Sugardale. 439 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: Happy to be back with you, Happy to. 440 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: Be back after a Browns victory. Be sure to like subscribe, 441 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 2: tell your friends all about it. My name is Andrew Siciliano. 442 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: So long, everybody,