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Speaker 1: uh Danil Ricardo is on this in his McLaren gear.

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Speaker 1: this is choosing sides. Yes one Wow. So first and foremost,

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00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: about it, and he's one of the only drivers who's

426
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: very open about his mental health and the toll that

427
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: being enough one driver can take on a person which

428
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: is definitely very different. You know, it's good that their

429
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 1: necks are so strong because there's so much going on

430
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: in the head. I don't know, you can edit that

431
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: at or or replay it many times. I mean, Lando

432
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: does have like a very thick neck for his like

433
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: big heads their next are unbelievable. I'm I'm I'm baffled

434
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: at their next strength. Okay, so that's Lando. Who's the

435
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: other driver, Dania Ricardo. Technically his name should be pronounced

436
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: Richiardo if we're going by the Italian pronunciation, but Daniel

437
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: the Australian does not care Daniel. There's a reason why

438
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: if you watch the show Drive to Survive, Daniel is

439
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: the first driver you meet in the very first episode

440
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: of the first season. And it makes complete sense because

441
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 1: this happened to me when I watched Drive to Survive.

442
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: All of my friends, regardless of gender, this happened then,

443
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: where they said, Oh my god, I am so invested

444
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: in this one guy. He is personable, he is very positive,

445
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: he's very funny, and he's great with press. He's great

446
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: with the media, is great with fans. It seems effortless.

447
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: I haven't seen Drive to Survive. I was specifically told

448
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: by Sports Illustrated not to watch it. But you meet

449
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: Daniel Ricardo over the Internet and you immediately like him

450
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: because he's not putting it on. Isn't you like it

451
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: at least? Yeah, that's just how he is. Now. There

452
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: are other drivers who do have personalities on the grid,

453
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: whether you like them or not, they they're giving us more.

454
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: But especially when Daniel even started, you know, over a

455
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: decade ago, that wasn't necessarily the case. And he was

456
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 1: always very open and fun even with the media back then,

457
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: in a way that other drivers weren't or really tried

458
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: hard not to be. So he always stood out, not

459
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: just in terms of the personality he has, but in

460
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: comparison to literally know of the Grid. Was your relationship

461
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: with the Nicol Hackenberg compared to your relationship with Max

462
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: are you always doing? Um? I mean they're both non sexual,

463
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 1: which is certainly beneficial for the working environment. Is Daniel

464
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: one of the better drivers? Yes? So Daniel is an

465
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: interesting case. So Daniels a very fun driver to watch.

466
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: He can be aggressive when he needs to be. There's

467
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: just something about the way that Daniel races Josh marsh

468
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: He is like aggressive and he's very bold and ballsy

469
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: with the like with the moves that he will make

470
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: UM and I really like that. I like the risk

471
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: that he's taken races UM. He's had a lot of

472
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: race wins. He was really considered at one point to

473
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: be a driver who was going to win a championship. Uh,

474
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: here's how it went for him. So Daniel started out

475
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 1: in Red Bulls young driver program. He distinguished himself very quickly.

476
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: He was really talented, very very early on. He got

477
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: his start on a very short lived and disastrous team

478
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: called HRT not important, but within a year he went

479
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: over to that junior sister team at red Bull Toro

480
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: Rosso now Alpha TWI. He was there for a few

481
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: seasons before he was promoted to the Red Bull team, right,

482
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: and he was like a perfect person for Red Bull.

483
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: He's positive, he's fun. They would make him do these

484
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: weird challenges and drive the car in weird environments and

485
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 1: he loved it and you know, the crowd would eat

486
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: it up wherever he was. He's just like the perfect

487
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: encapsulation of that brand and in a slightly less kind

488
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: of Alpha match away, he's just very fun. Right. He

489
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: does something that he has coined a shoey. If he

490
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: ends up on the podium where he takes off his

491
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: racing boot, you know he's had on for a whole

492
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: race that is smelly and disgusting and like is like

493
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: hot and gross. I know where is he dumps his

494
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: champagne on it or in it and then drinks out

495
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: of it. I want some tennis players to do that.

496
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: It had some pizzazz. Shoey shoey. Yeah, of course he

497
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: says it with his like Australian accents, so it sounds

498
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: cooler and hipper than when I say it. I feel

499
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: like I dug a hole for myself for this one.

500
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm just like walking along minding my business and they're

501
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: like doing shoe I don't actually just take my shoe

502
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: of while I'm looking in the street and drink out

503
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: of it. However, by his teammate is Max for Steppin

504
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: and as we know Dr Evil, as we know Red

505
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: Bull has made a very clear that Max is their dude. Yeah, yeah,

506
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: they are like all in. We'd love to know how

507
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: exactly that happened. All happen, but we'll talk about that

508
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: in season two. Yeah, it'll take a while. But so Daniel,

509
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: obviously he's older than Max. He's thirty two now, he

510
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: was in his late twenties. Then he's aware of what's

511
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: going on. He feels like, hey, Red Bull might not

512
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: be prioritizing me the same way, and in a somewhat

513
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: surprising announcement even to Red Bull, he says he's leaving

514
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: the team at the end of and even weirder, he

515
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: is moving to a team called Reyno, which everyone was like,

516
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: rend out there, kind of lateral move maybe exactly. Yeah,

517
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: it was kind of a weird move, and he was

518
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: there for two years. It was kind of a weird fit.

519
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: He didn't do poorly. He actually finished fifth in the

520
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: championship his second year there, but it's just yeah, it

521
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: was kind of an odd time for him. And again,

522
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: he's the same personality, still very happy, go lucky, very

523
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: work hard, play hard. But he then announces that he

524
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: is going to move at the end of to McLaren.

525
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: So when from being a guy who seemed almost like

526
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: a one team guy with the whole Red Bull organization

527
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: to kind of bouncing around a little bit. So here's

528
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 1: where things get interesting. So McLaren announces this driver lineup, right,

529
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: Lando and Daniel. The fan base is like, oh my god,

530
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: these two fun person guys that we love on the

531
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: internet are going to be together. This is gonna be dope,

532
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: Like everything's gonna be great, like people were so hype.

533
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: But unsurprisingly, Lando is kind of used to being, you know,

534
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: the keeper of his own domain. And I would say Daniel,

535
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: despite being a cancer on the zodiac sign, very much

536
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: has like Leo energy, Like he loves to be like tall.

537
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: It makes sense like three percent of the people listening,

538
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: but he has like a lot of he likes to

539
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 1: be the center of attention. I'll put it that way.

540
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: He likes to ham it up. Lando hams it up

541
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: in a different way. But these are two people who

542
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: are kind of used to having the spotlight on them.

543
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: I'll be it very in very different ways. Lando can

544
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: be a little more quiet and a little more reserved

545
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: than you have Daniel coming in just like WHOA, let's go. Um.

546
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: So a lot of these initial videos you were seeing

547
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: coming out from McLaren, it would really be Daniel carrying

548
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: these videos and like trying as hard as in. Lando

549
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: was like he didn't really care to hang out with

550
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: Daniel as much. Um honestly, like, oh, maybe this relationship

551
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: is not working. Um, And in reality it was just

552
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: it's a very they're very different people in the way

553
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: that they approached racing, in the way they approached life.

554
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: It's almost like there's a weird passive aggression to some

555
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: of their interactions of like I can't tell if he's

556
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: kidding or if he is serious, and that is a problem,

557
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: Like all their jokes to each other have that quality

558
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: to them where you're like, oh, this body language is weird,

559
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: and so what makes us worse is Lando, despite being

560
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: behind Carlos for his first two seasons and being a

561
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: rookie and making you know, some mistakes, even in his

562
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: sophomore season, he has this gun's blazing breakout season, particularly

563
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: in the first half of one, so he's killing it.

564
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: And on the flip side, Daniel isn't just kind of

565
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: liking a little bit behind. He is struggling at McLaren.

566
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: There's lots of theories and reasons as to why. A

567
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: big one that he brought up is and everyone has

568
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: said the McLaren car, regardless of season, is just kind

569
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: of built differently. Daniel has said that he almost had

570
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: to relearn how to drive in F one to drive

571
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: the McLaren car, like it doesn't you know, he kind

572
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: of doesn't doesn't break the same way he's used to.

573
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: He can't really use his natural strength to drive this car.

574
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: So you have races where Lando is qualifying, you know,

575
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: like P. Five, and Daniel's qualifying like P. Sixteen, Like

576
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: it's it's just huge discrepancies. So it's very obvious that

577
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: Lando is just killing it. And of course he's had

578
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: this car now this is that was his third season.

579
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: He's now been in that car for over three years. Uh,

580
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: but you know, Daniel's just having the hardest time getting it.

581
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: And obviously to a lot of Daniel's whole vibe and

582
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: persona and quote unquote brand is that he's winning. He's

583
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: this fun guy. It's a little bit harder to be

584
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: like the positive fun guy when you're not yeah, when

585
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: you suck, and the guy who's beating you on your

586
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: team is a decade younger. And it's also really well liked,

587
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: really popular. It's not even like a less press requests

588
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: you get. You get to show off your personality a

589
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: lot less and no one even wants you to thanks

590
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: for your unwavering Yeah, it's one that everyone The McLaren's

591
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: story in two is turning into one where you're seeing

592
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: two drivers on completely opposite traject trees. So on one

593
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: side you've got Lando Norris, this young, dynamic driver who

594
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: had this breakout one season. The world is his oyster.

595
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: Even if the McLaren Carr isn't quite there in two.

596
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: There's still a lot of hope for him. He's still

597
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: in conversations about one day being this championship caliber driver.

598
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: And then the opposite side of the garage, you've got

599
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: Danil Ricardo, who has a massive fan base, is very beloved,

600
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,239
Speaker 1: but he has just been having a slog of a

601
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: time for a year and a half at this point,

602
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: and even some of the most die hard Daniel Ricardo

603
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: fans out there are worried that this is in fact

604
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: the beginning of the end, you know, the real high

605
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: points of his career are behind him. I think he

606
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: has what it takes to be a champion. I just

607
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: don't think he's in the right on the right team

608
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: to be a champion. And I think that that is just,

609
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: unfortunately the way the cookie crumbles right now. This is

610
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: Nicole Seevers, a co creator of Two Girls, One Formula

611
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: and Danny rick Stand. He's just all around a happy person,

612
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: you know, just spite his dumb comments, he makes every

613
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: now and again real Golden Retriever energy. You know, um,

614
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: just happy, go lucky. Hard not to root for him

615
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: when he's buddies with everyone in the paddock. Always like

616
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: cheering people on. He's got drive, and I just want

617
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: I just want what's best for him, and I want

618
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: him to succeed and I hold him close to my heart.

619
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: Sounds like she's talking about an X. McLaren has been

620
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: hard for him this past season. So at this point,

621
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: I think Danny Rick is a little bit of an

622
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: underdog and I want to see him return to his

623
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: former glory of being Red Bull. Danny finishing for a

624
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: second podium after podium. I just don't think that a

625
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: championship is in his future unless he gets like pulled

626
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: up to Mercedes or you know, back to Red Bull,

627
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: which I don't want for him. Um. I just I

628
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: don't feel good about it, unfortunately, And I really hate

629
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: to say that on the record in case you know

630
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: that sever comes up in the court of law. Um,

631
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: but like, I'm not feeling good. He did have some

632
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: some real high points and he did win a race

633
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: at Manza, but generally speaking, in one not gonna lie

634
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: or mince words here, it's been a pretty bleak for

635
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: most races. If you're Dana Ricardo, hey, maybe he completely

636
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: turns it around and has this gangbuster second half of

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Speaker 1: the season, But right now, there are a ton of

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Speaker 1: rumors swirling around what Daniel Ricardo is going to be

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Speaker 1: doing next year. He is supposed to have a contract

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Speaker 1: with McLaren through three, but they're just being incredibly opaque

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Speaker 1: about what is going on with him. Yeah, so, how

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Speaker 1: how does McLaren stack for you compared to the other

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Speaker 1: three teams that you've heard about this far? I personally

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Speaker 1: and more attracted to grit than shine. McLaren feels shiny

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Speaker 1: like with their marketing, and Daniel is so fucking likable,

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Speaker 1: Like it's this guy TV hosters. He a professional competitor.

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Speaker 1: But I get, I get what everyone's saying. I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: buying what they're selling. I think that's cool, But I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm a I might like a little more street fighter

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Speaker 1: one Daniel like crash into someone. You'll be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like we've got so I don't want that. I want

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Speaker 1: Daniel to lose his ship on a reporter, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I want to see I want to see like

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Speaker 1: the fire in his belly that for a moment doesn't

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Speaker 1: care if he's accepted or liked by others. He's just

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Speaker 1: ready to function up. He went like slightly unhinged behavior.

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Speaker 1: I want a little bit unhinged behavior. And Lando seems

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Speaker 1: like a really excellent driver who's slowly climbing and he

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Speaker 1: has the foundation to stay there when he gets all

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Speaker 1: the way up. I like that too. Tennis has these

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Speaker 1: guys who are so good, so young, but you can

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Speaker 1: tell they're kind of like foundationally aren't aren't set up,

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Speaker 1: and then they get there and they blow it or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But it seems like Lando is slow and steady, young

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Speaker 1: going to the top. That's that's cool. It's one of

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Speaker 1: the youngest two out there and still still really holding

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Speaker 1: his own. They say in show biz, the longer it

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Speaker 1: takes you to go up, the longer takes you to

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Speaker 1: come down. And maybe that's what I was thinking about

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Speaker 1: with Lando. I like that. Yeah, so yeah, so are

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Speaker 1: are like the Chuckos and the Georgia is still at

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Speaker 1: the top for you. I do like those guys. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how to answer that, but I do like

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Speaker 1: the the Lando Daniel team. I do like that. Um.

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Speaker 1: I like the teams where the two drivers are can

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Speaker 1: both win. I know right now with McLaren it feels

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Speaker 1: like Daniel maybe kind of isn't there, but maybe he'll

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Speaker 1: get there. So if that's an answer. That's my answer. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So next episode, we are switching gears. We're moving to

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Speaker 1: a team that is almost like the true midfield. We

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Speaker 1: are moving to a team called Alpine formerly called Reno,

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Speaker 1: and they are also one of the teams that is

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Speaker 1: responsible for another one of the biggest scandals in F

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Speaker 1: one history. It's got everything, it's got crashes, it's got

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Speaker 1: people turning on one another within the same team. We

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Speaker 1: love to see it. And it's got two very different drivers,

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Speaker 1: one of whom is a scrappy young kid just trying

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Speaker 1: to make his mark. And then you've got one of

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Speaker 1: the titans in the sport of Formula one. Who's who's

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Speaker 1: still out there twenty years later, So that will be Alpine.

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