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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. Hunt's Giants. Dunt

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Speaker 1: come get on my Giants bubbling give me some jump.

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Speaker 1: Part of the Giants Podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: Let's welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast,

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Speaker 2: brought to you by Citizens, the official Bank of the Giants.

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Speaker 2: I am John Schmaunk. Very proud to welcome in Brian Baldinger.

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Speaker 2: He'll be a regular guest with us throughout the years.

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Speaker 2: Baldy breakdowns will be showing up on our social media

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Speaker 2: channels as well.

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Speaker 1: Baldy, it's good to see it, man.

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Speaker 3: How are you, John, I'm good. I'm good to be

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Speaker 3: with you here. I mean it was a uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: it was a tough loss for the Giants yesterday because

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Speaker 3: they did a lot of good things. They actually played

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Speaker 3: really good red zone defense. We saw elite neighbors look

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Speaker 3: like a real star in this business. We saw a

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Speaker 3: run game yesterday, you know that was missing week one,

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Speaker 3: and that was encouraging. So there's a lot of good

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Speaker 3: things to build upon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Unfortunately, one thing that didn't go so well for them, Baldy,

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Speaker 2: was their non red zone defense. The Commanders do not

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Speaker 2: punt all day. They do not turn the ball overall day,

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Speaker 2: they scored on every possession. They're all field goals, but

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Speaker 2: they hold the ball for basically thirty eight minutes of

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Speaker 2: the game. That Giants only have seven possessions on offense.

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Speaker 2: So let's start the running game first. Giants give him

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Speaker 2: more than two hundred yards rushing about one hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty in terms of the traditional non quarterback run game.

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Speaker 2: What did you see from this run defense that made

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Speaker 3: Well, we saw, you know, Brian Robinson Junior get a

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Speaker 3: number of explosive runs. The forty yarder just flipped field position.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's the result of honestly not getting

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Speaker 3: off two things, not getting off blocks and not tackling

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Speaker 3: well because there was opportunities to get him to the ground. Now,

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Speaker 3: he's like a lot of good backs this league. He's powerful,

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Speaker 3: but you know, you got to get the legs, you

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Speaker 3: got to wrap up, and you got to get off blocks.

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Speaker 3: John And if you don't do that, whether it's Brian Robinson,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. I mean, you know, even Eckler had

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Speaker 3: an explosive run. You know, like they did not tackle well,

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Speaker 3: and I didn't think they got off blocks.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and I think and they also sometimes weren't

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Speaker 2: gap sound Baldi And how much of that do you think?

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Speaker 2: And this is not me making excuses. I'm just going

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Speaker 2: it from a football perspective around the league. Is tackling

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Speaker 2: where it needs to be right now? Or is there

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Speaker 2: still the product of a shorter preseason and guy's not

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Speaker 2: playing a lot in the preseason.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna sound like it, I'm making excuses here, John,

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Speaker 3: But I feel like September's in New August. I mean

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Speaker 3: you could you're out practice every day, John. You know

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Speaker 3: they work on tackling, but it's not tackling. You know,

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Speaker 3: they're just you know, they're they're they're tackling tires and

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Speaker 3: they're doing stuff out there on the field to imitate

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Speaker 3: and stuff like that. I feel like it takes a

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Speaker 3: this early in the season. But you know, tackling is

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Speaker 3: that's a whole lot of one too. It's getting off blocks.

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Speaker 3: They were not gaps, sound like I you know, the

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Speaker 3: run fits are important. I don't care what defense you're in.

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Speaker 3: I don't care what what shoe Shane bone is running?

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Speaker 3: You have to it's run. Defense starts with being in

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Speaker 3: the right DAPs and then squeezing and so that limits

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Speaker 3: the number the amount of space that a back like

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Speaker 1: Is that something with practice can get better? Bald?

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Speaker 2: Is that something that it's a one time thing? How

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Speaker 2: does that improve from week to week?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 1: If you're the Giants coaching staff and players.

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Speaker 3: Well they can improve. I mean it starts with just okay,

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Speaker 3: this is what we're going to focus on. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: focus on this. We're gonna squeeze the run. We're going

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Speaker 3: to get off blocks, because honestly, anybody can defeat blocks.

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Speaker 3: It's just a mindset of I'm not gonna be blocked.

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Speaker 3: I mean, wherever you're at, if you're a defensive back

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Speaker 3: Like every every position is in the run game is

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Speaker 2: John Now, boy, this has been a problem for the

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Speaker 2: Giants the last two years under wing Morton Dell right,

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Speaker 2: they have not stopped the run well for a couple

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Speaker 2: of years. They bring in Shane Bowen, completely different defensive

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Speaker 2: great history of stopping the well, stopping the run very

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Speaker 2: well when he was in Tennessee. So we know schematically

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Speaker 2: this can be done. So this seems like more of

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Speaker 3: Like I feel like it's not the strongest position. When

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Speaker 3: It's a big drop off.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, a couple of those big runs

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Speaker 3: By the way, it's doseful. I mean, big Dexter's not

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Speaker 3: They're the number one defensive football and you know, and

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Speaker 3: I think it all started with a very deep and

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Speaker 2: And I think you do feel the loss of a

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Speaker 2: are feeling that loss a little bit too. All right,

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Speaker 2: how about the secondary, there are a couple of players

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Speaker 2: a good player, but not what anyone would call a

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Speaker 3: I think. So. I mean, you know, Andrew's out there,

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Speaker 3: Dori came in because they just need another corner. So,

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Speaker 3: you know, I see giant safeties are around the league.

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Speaker 3: Xavier McKenny, you know, Julian Love, guys that moved on that,

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Speaker 3: You know. I think they had trouble, you know, just

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Speaker 3: man coverage against zach Ertz. You know, he's the very

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Speaker 3: it is about communication. Uh. We we knew that though,

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Speaker 3: with with Andrew and playing inside and with you know,

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Speaker 3: Tyler playing in a safety position, we thought that they

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Speaker 3: would experience some growing pains, you know, basically playing a

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Speaker 4: You're ready for a change. Payday comes early with citizens,

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Speaker 4: So go to that retreat. Knew you move to the country.

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Speaker 4: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are

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Speaker 4: you ready for all that life?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And Baldy, I went through it here when I did

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Speaker 2: my notes on the game. And it is one thing

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Speaker 2: to give up run plays on early downs. I get

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Speaker 2: that that's gonna happen from time to time, but even

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Speaker 1: And I looked at some of the.

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Speaker 2: Third and long here, and some of the numbers that

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Speaker 2: they gave up in terms of some of these downs

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Speaker 2: and distances were just plays you can't have, and I

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Speaker 2: wrote them down here. They gave up a third and

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Speaker 2: fourth and one. Some of those were Jayden Daniel scrambles,

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Speaker 2: I think one was a little middle screen to Echoler

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Speaker 2: so third and longs. That's kind of what the Shamee

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Speaker 2: that just a matter of not understanding where the sticks

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Speaker 3: Look, I thought they played soft in some of those situations.

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Speaker 3: I just thought they gave up way too much space,

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Speaker 3: you know, and they got to tighten it up. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you got to get off the field. It's third and thirteen, John,

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Speaker 3: you have to get off the field. Occasionally they were

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Speaker 3: seven or fourteen on third downs, a lot of them

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Speaker 3: like you described they were. They completed their fourth you know,

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Speaker 3: they converted their fourth down conversion. You might give up

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Speaker 3: an occasional third and ten plus, but not like that.

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Speaker 3: You've got to get off the field, you just do.

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Speaker 3: You've got to put them in a kicking situation at

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Speaker 3: that point. And that's I'm sure they're in the film

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Speaker 3: room today. I hope they are, and I hope it's

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Speaker 2: I want to touch on here, Baldy. The first one,

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Speaker 2: Wold you already mentioned the red zone defense.

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Speaker 1: Seven field goals.

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Speaker 2: Now, they were helped by four commanders penalties inside the

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Speaker 2: red zone, three of which I believe were procedural fall

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Speaker 2: star penalty, So obviously they got some assistance there. But Shane,

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Speaker 2: you know, besides, they're on defense, Shaane bowl and historically

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Speaker 2: has been very good in the red zone. What did

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Speaker 2: you see from the Giants red zone defense that you liked?

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Speaker 3: Well? I thought, I thought, you know, although it doesn't

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Speaker 3: Brian Burns and Kavon had some good rushes down there

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Speaker 3: It showed up. It showed up. I mean, to play

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Speaker 2: Yeah, going back to the run game ball, I thought

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Speaker 3: Well you saw. I don't know if people really understand

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I thought they did as well. And then for Devin

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Speaker 2: Singtary you mentioned it. I think ten force miss tackles by.

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Speaker 2: twenty five yard game.

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Speaker 1: Kind of like that.

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Speaker 3: Well I said it in one of the breakdowns. These

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Speaker 3: kids from LSU are pretty advanced students. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: there was a reasonable why he's the all time leading

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Speaker 3: receiver in a school that spits out receivers as much

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Speaker 3: as anybody. But you know, he's got a plan to

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Speaker 3: get open. He's got a plan after the catch, like

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Speaker 3: he's not. You know, it's gonna be difficult to tackle him.

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Speaker 3: He knows where the defender is. He knows, you know,

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Speaker 3: where the opening is. You saw a bunch of stop

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Speaker 3: routes at the top that he spun and turned into

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Speaker 3: big games. He is, he catches everything with his hands.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's a talented guy. Look, I don't know, John,

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Speaker 3: you know way better men. I can't remember a giant

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Speaker 3: receiver being targeted eighteen times.

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Speaker 1: Odell maybe maybe Odell, Maybe.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Odell in one of his you know, great one

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Speaker 3: of his great seasons. Possibly, But even that seems like

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Speaker 3: it might be a little bit stretched. But you know

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Speaker 3: what they did was that they really put him to

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Speaker 3: the single receiver side. Let him go to work, you know,

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Speaker 3: against the corner, whether he was the ex or whether

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Speaker 3: he was the flank or on the play they ran

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Speaker 3: just old West Coast Jerry Rice flanker drives coming across

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Speaker 3: the formation. You get him out a full head of

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Speaker 3: steam with his speed and strength. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: he had a bunch of chunk plays like that. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he ran the route trio. He had a comeback up

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Speaker 3: on the left side there, sixteen yard comeback, put the

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Speaker 3: foot in the ground, drove off the corner. I mean,

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Speaker 3: just you know, he's an elite talent and that's why

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Speaker 3: he was chosen where he was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of his yards came on run

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Speaker 2: after the catch in this game, and he had a

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Speaker 2: couple steps on a couple of deep balls. Boy maybe

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Speaker 2: six inches overthrown down the left sideline. That pass was

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Speaker 2: right there, just overthrown. And then the deep post over

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Speaker 2: the top, he threw it outside when he probably should

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Speaker 2: have let him inside a little bit. But I think

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Speaker 2: those throws over the top are gonna be there even

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Speaker 2: if we haven't seen him yet in the first two weeks.

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Speaker 3: No, it's coming, it's coming. And usually I remember just

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Speaker 3: talking to Troy Aigman back in the day just with

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Speaker 3: Mike Irvin and his group, like he always thought the

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Speaker 3: deep ball was the last thing to come, just because

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Speaker 3: it's really hard to practice, John, it's hard like to

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Speaker 3: tell Malik, Okay, you're gonna go ninety miles an hour

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Speaker 3: on Wednesday here on this route, like you're gonna run,

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Speaker 3: but probably not games. It's just hard to get that

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Speaker 3: timing down. He beat the corner cleanly. You'd love to just,

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Speaker 3: you know, put just a touch more air on that

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Speaker 3: ball and let him just run underneath it. But I

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Speaker 3: believe that those big plays are gonna come.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And if he gets more attention, then you'll get

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Speaker 2: him out of Slayton and hide on the other side

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Speaker 2: with their speed. So one way or the other, he's

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Speaker 2: gonna help draw some coverage.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Next week's opponent, real quick ball before we say goodbye.

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Speaker 2: It's the Browns. This has the makings of a potential

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Speaker 2: slot fest. That's what a lot of these Browns games

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Speaker 2: look like. They just have a really good defense and

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Speaker 2: Deshan Watson hasn't quite figured things out yet there at quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not sure if you watched the Browns yet

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Speaker 2: in this in this week number two.

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Speaker 1: I know you did in week one.

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Speaker 2: What do you think this matchups is gonna look like

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Speaker 2: next week for Giants and Browns?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, if you're looking at the Giants offense,

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Speaker 3: and Jim Schwartz is a Super Bowl winning you know,

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Speaker 3: defensive coordinator, and he's he probably plays more man covers

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Speaker 3: than anybody. Yep, And they got a bunch of guys

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Speaker 3: Denzel Ward, Martin Emerson Junior, like, they got a bunch

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Speaker 3: of guys that love playing man coverage. And then look,

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Speaker 3: I mean I would pay stub Hub prices right here

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Speaker 3: to go watch you know, Andrew Thomas and Miles Garrett

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Speaker 3: get outa he's gonna he'll go over both sides, he'll

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Speaker 3: go over a luminar, he'll he'll switch. But he is

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Speaker 3: a force to two games now. You know he's got

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Speaker 3: two force fumbles, two sacks, force fumbles. You know he

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Speaker 3: did against Dallas, he did against yesterday. Zadarius is a factor.

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Speaker 3: We know Dalvin Tomlinson, he's still a force inside. They're

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Speaker 3: they're a very talented defense. And so if you're gonna

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Speaker 3: run the ball or you're gonna, you know, complete passes

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Speaker 3: against I mean, Dallas beat him badly. We won him.

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Speaker 3: The sixty yards of total.

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Speaker 1: Offense is dak Pres got one hundred and eighty nine

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Speaker 1: passing yards.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't a lot they didn't put up. They didn't

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Speaker 3: move the ball a lot. They basically try to just

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Speaker 3: game plan around Miles Garrett, and you know they weren't

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Speaker 3: getting They had a couple of big plays that's it.

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Speaker 3: But that's what you're going up against. You have to

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Speaker 3: execute against that team and then look just nobody thinks

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Speaker 3: that Deshaun is anywhere near what he was, but he

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Speaker 3: was better yesterday than he was week one. Week one.

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Speaker 3: For whatever reason, they dropped back fifty one times against

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys and Deshaun got hit seventeen times. He was

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Speaker 3: sacked six times. They got a lot more battles in

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Speaker 3: the offense. And that's what Kevin Stefanski is. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's a run first type guy, play action pass guy.

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Speaker 3: They certainly have guys that can hurt you with you know,

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Speaker 3: Omari and Djoku. I wouldn't take any of the back slightly.

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Speaker 3: They're built around the run game, and so that's where

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Speaker 3: it's got to start. And obviously it's been a problem

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Speaker 3: and so that has to get fixed against the team

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Speaker 3: that that's I mean, if they get success in the

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Speaker 3: run game, John, they will stay with it.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm with your Baldi.

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Speaker 2: I think stopping the run next week that that becomes

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Speaker 2: a necessity if you want to walk out of that

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Speaker 2: game with the victory. Bald the good stuff, my friend,

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Speaker 2: is great to have you on board this year, and

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Speaker 2: we look forward to talking down the road, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy your football this week, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, John, thanks a lot for having me, buddy. I'll

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Speaker 3: talk to you soon.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Everybody,