1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: Here we go. It's a Thursday, Greg coach Sell. One 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: hour from now. We're live at Chicago. It is Chili. 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: It's The Herd wherever you may be, however, whatever platform 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: you're watching or listening, a lot of choices out there. 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for choosing us, making us part of your day. 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: We all know there's bias. For the record, you have 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: some to there's recency bias, there's confirmation bias. In the media. 15 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: We have what I would call chaos bias. The more 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: chaos you have, we jump to it because we know 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: y'll jump to it. That's how it works. On YouTube 18 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: and TikTok, people find chaos, and I think sometimes it 19 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: steers us in the media, myself included toward chaos bias. 20 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills have had a bad forty eight hours. Everybody's 21 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 1: piling on you may want to take a deep breath. 22 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: Let's look at where Buffalo's at. Ownership, stable, new stadium coming, 23 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: massive revenue upgrade, buy more players, superstar quarterback, top six 24 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: offensive line in a league that has shifted over the 25 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: last decade to offense, tight end, slot receiver, running back, quarterback, 26 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: o line, left tackle. Really good last six years, most 27 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: wins in the league, best point differential by a country mile, 28 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: number one, offense, second in playoff wins. Yes, they had 29 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: a bad seventy two hours, got a bad press conference yesterday. 30 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: The Sean McDermott firing and press release could have been better. 31 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: They've been excellent for six seven years. Excellent. Can this 32 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: also be noted? Winning Super Bowls is hard? Sean McVay, 33 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: the best coach arguably in the league, has won and 34 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: should probably thank Aaron Donald and one sack late on 35 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow for that. Jim Harbaugh none, Kyle Shanahan none. 36 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: Sean Payton won and if the Colts recover that on sidekick, 37 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: he's maybe looking at zero. Okay. The Buffalo Bills are 38 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: a controversial catch no catch call from beating the excellent 39 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: Jags and the excellent Broncos on the road. Okay, Bill Belichick. 40 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: Five of his six Super Bowls decided by a possession, 41 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: three by a field goal. Rory McElroy best golfer in 42 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: Europe for fifteen years. He went eleven years without winning 43 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 1: a major. He was often PGA Player of the Year 44 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: multiple times an a year he didn't win a major. 45 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: And in golf you get four chances a year to 46 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: win a major. In the NFL, you get one, one 47 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: three and a half hour window. That's it. I would 48 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: rather be a Buffalo Bills fan today than almost anybody 49 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: not named Kansas City because of Andy Reid and Mahomes, 50 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: and Andy Reid could retire in a year. I'd rather 51 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: be the new England Patriots. I think Drake may is 52 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: actually at this point underrated. I like where the Rams are, 53 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: but Stafford could retire. I like where the Seahawks are. 54 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: But if do we all trust Sam Darnold yet I do. 55 00:03:55,280 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: Most of you don't resent zy bias, confirmation bias. There's 56 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: also chaos bias, and it's what we in the media do, 57 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: and it's also what you the fans are attracted to. 58 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: Brandon Bean's probably not the best personnel guy in the league. 59 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: But again, if I told you in twenty twenty six, 60 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: an offensive league, if I said, yeah, there's this franchise upstate, 61 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: New York, superstar quarterback, Pro Bowl running back, great left tackle, 62 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: good old line, star slot receiver, really is good, excellent 63 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: tight ends, and their rosters full of B guys. It's 64 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: not like they've got C and D guys all over. 65 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: They could use another cornerback, So could the league accept Seattle. 66 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: Everybody needs new corners because everybody's going three receivers wide, 67 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: and nobody has three great corners, not even Seattle, and 68 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: they've got two. Terry Pagoula didn't have a great press 69 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: conference yesterday, but what he's saying has so much merit. 70 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: We're pretty good here. We've got the things you'd want. Here. 71 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: Here's the yesterday. 72 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: That's our seating over the last seven years in the 73 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: playoffs five two three, two, two to six. An organization 74 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 3: doesn't carry that kind of record without having without being 75 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 3: a great organization, without having great players. We are focused 76 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 3: on bringing a Super Bowl to Buffalo. 77 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's twenty nine, not thirty nine. That's Matt Stafford 78 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: gonna be thirty eight thirty nine soon. Josh Allen's twenty 79 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: nine seven years, hasn't missed to start due to injury, 80 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: new stadium, stable ownership, more revenue, O line left tackle. 81 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: They had a bad forty eight to seventy two hours. 82 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: There's an old cliche. Wind blows harder at the top 83 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: of the mountain. They're near the top. This stuff had 84 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: happened in you know, Carolina, I would not even make 85 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,239 Speaker 1: the show. Not even make the show. It's the bills. 86 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: It leaves the show. You know. Here's the thing about 87 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: smart people, even geniuses. Van Go actually died poor yeah, yeah, 88 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: and wasn't viewed as as successful. And then he died, 89 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: and now you have to wait in line to see 90 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: his work, right, Like, that's the way it works sometimes 91 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: because visionaries and people who see things before I see 92 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: them or you see them, we don't give him credit 93 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: in the time. And we also not only do we 94 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: not give him credit, we forget the risk they took 95 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: to do it. And I'll give you an example with 96 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: Seattle planning the ramps Seattle, ninety percent of you thought 97 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,559 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold was not a good signing. He got lucky 98 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: he had justin Jefferson. Kevin O'Connell's a genius not a 99 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: very good defensive division. You didn't like it. You didn't 100 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: like it. He's been great. By the way DK Metcalf moved, 101 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: you didn't like that either. What is Seattle doing? When 102 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson left, I can remember saying on the air, 103 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,119 Speaker 1: he's been at least a one oh three quarterback rating, 104 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: dude for four straight years. Are we sure this is 105 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: the right move? I didn't think it was the right move. 106 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: Gino Smith's abaum not really. He made a Pro Bowl, 107 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: they won ten games, and Seattle had the number eight 108 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: passing offense in the league his last year in Seattle. 109 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: But John Snyder veiled on Gino and failed on DK 110 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: Metcalf and signed Sam Darnold. Hey, by the way, Pete 111 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: Carroll was wildly popular in Seattle. A lot of people 112 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: didn't think he should be let go, and then you 113 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: watch him with the Raiders and you're like, yeah, John Snyder, 114 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: the GM of Seattle got that right too. When DeMarcus 115 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: Lawrence signed thirty three year old defensive end, they brought 116 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: out the checkbook. How many of you were like, perfect, 117 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: that's what we need. A thirty three year old defensive 118 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: end who I forgot about in Dallas. He had more 119 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: pressures this year than Nick Benito in Denver. We do 120 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: this all the time when somebody sees stuff. A visionary 121 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: is what they call him before you and I see them. Okay, 122 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: we always forget the risk they took. We don't give 123 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: them the credit. Everybody now goes well, of course Darnald 124 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: was better than Geno Smith. And go back and look 125 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: at some of your tweets. The DK Metcalf move. You 126 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: didn't like it, crazy one of one. There's nobody like him. 127 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: So Sam Darnold was available to the entire league. Pittsburgh 128 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: could have had him, they wouldn't guarantee him multiple years. 129 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: Minnesota had him in the building. Smart people in Minnesota. 130 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: They let him walk. So Seattle's moves they look brilliant. Now, 131 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: that's what happens when you have a great visionary gene. 132 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: It looked good now, and we didn't love those moves. 133 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: Go back to Russell Wilson's last years in Seattle. Oh, 134 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: let me guess you got that right too. He hit 135 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: a one zero three passer rating year after year after 136 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: year after year. Right, let Russ Cook Maybe didn't work, 137 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: but he was still successful. So I don't know I 138 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: when I look at what Seattle's done, is that a 139 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: lot of these moves we just we line up with. 140 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they hit some draft picks, they've 141 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: hit everything. They Mike McDonald was a kid, unproven as 142 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: a head coach. Home run they found their McVeigh. Donald 143 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: was great in Minneapolis. Why wouldn't he be good in Seattle? 144 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, DK, metcalf, they all worked. Here's his His 145 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: boss is John Snyder. His name's Mike McDonald. Here's his thoughts. 146 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 4: His leadership example from on a day to day basis 147 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 4: shows up in so many ways, just like the spirit 148 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 4: of the building, his interaction with everyone, I mean talks 149 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 4: more people and going I do you know, like he's 150 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 4: just he's doing this thing all the time. And he's 151 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 4: been incredibly helpful to me. He knew when to kind 152 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 4: of give you some air to breathe and grow and 153 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 4: expend and learn, you know, maybe fall a little bit. 154 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 4: And he also was there to support you when you 155 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 4: needed it. 156 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: Can't wait rams Seahawks Seattle minus two and a half. 157 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: By the way, in about an hour from now. I 158 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: do this, As J Mack knows, anytime you get a 159 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: massive game AFC Championship NFC Championship. I go to both teams, 160 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: who's got the top ten players? Generally the team with 161 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: more of the top ten players. I'm doing AFC today. 162 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: I think you'll be surprised by it. Seahawks Rams is impossible. 163 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: You could go to fifteen players and still leave like 164 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: really really high end starters off Seattle Rams. I got 165 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: the ten players, and I'm like, I don't even there's 166 00:10:55,480 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 1: like four other defensive players that I think are near proas. 167 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: There's so much talent in the Rams Seahawks game it's insane. 168 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 5: Well, there's probably two guys Colin on that list who 169 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 5: didn't even play in the Week sixteen meeting, Davonte Adams 170 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 5: who missed that game. Remember yeah, and Dotson, the offensive 171 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 5: lineman who's back and who's excellent against the Bears. 172 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: Dobson's than the second highest rate, Denver's got the highest 173 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: readed guard in the league. Dotson for the Rams his second. 174 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: Like they those positions you don't think about, but that 175 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: those are great players. 176 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 5: Remember those two guys missed a game with the Rams, 177 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 5: scored thirty points in regulation and had I believe five 178 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty yards of total offense. You can tell 179 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 5: where I'm leaning in this one, Colin. 180 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: I think anytime you can get McVeigh Stafford in a 181 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: healthy RAMS team in a big game plus points, I 182 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: think the side is LA doesn't mean they're gonna win. 183 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: I think that's the betting side. 184 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 5: Who's a better offensive line in this one? By the way, 185 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 5: a Rams so better coach quarterback? 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Lebron didn't take you know, responsibility for 208 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: the Westbrook move. I talked about that over and over 209 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: and over. Lebron wanted that move. It was a disaster. 210 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: Now Westbrook and Lebron don't get along. Whatever. But I 211 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: read the story. I'd heard about half of these rumors, 212 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: maybe seventy five percent of these rumors. Baxter Holmes has 213 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: a history of getting stuff right. Genie Buss is now saying, oh, 214 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: this this stuff is you know, it's putting Lebron in 215 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: a bad space. Listen, here's here's the good news. It's 216 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: time to move off Lebron at some point in the 217 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: next calendar year. And Lebron's never been loyal to teams. 218 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: This is not a Derek Jeter situation, you know, this 219 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: is This is not Magic or Kobe. Lebron's easier to 220 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: move off. It's been a mutually beneficial relationship. His net 221 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: worth has almost doubled since he came to LA. He 222 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: came hit to LA for basketball sixty percent and business 223 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: forty percent. I mean he kept the thing the thing. Yeah, 224 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: by about year two, his network is almost double net worth. 225 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: He's expensive, he's not always available. He's not the player 226 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: he once was. Lakers are so bad defensively and statistically, 227 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: they're worse when he's on the floor. So I've said 228 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: it forever, really really confident successful men are bad at exites. 229 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: They've all got a great pickup line, but won't pick 230 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: up the phone when they break up. That's what successful 231 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: confident men do. Lebron's been great for the game. There's 232 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: a little Lebron fatigue around the league. I get it. 233 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: But this new ownership group, they have no loyalty to him. 234 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: In fact, remember when Bob Myers left the Warriors as GM, 235 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: and many speculated he just didn't want to trade. He 236 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: didn't want to trade Klay Thompson. I think Genie Buss 237 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: knew deep down she didn't want to move off Lebron. 238 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: She didn't feel comfortable with it. It's easy for the 239 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: Dodgers people too, they're the smartest guys in town. I 240 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: really believe that that at some point instead of confronting 241 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: bad pr and I can't believe that a lot of 242 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: people just don't like that discomfort. I mean, now you've 243 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: got Lebron's agent, Rich Paul, who I like, talking about 244 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves deals potentially on his podcast. So you know. 245 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: The other thing is, look under the hood. The Lakers 246 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: are a mirage. They're twenty six and sixteen, but fifteen 247 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: of their sixteen losses they've gotten blown out. They're great 248 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: in clutch games because they have a really smart head coach, 249 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: but they're not in that many clutch games. They're horrible defensively. 250 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: It's a three and D league and they don't have 251 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: enough of either, no rim protection, not very athletic. This 252 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: is a Luca jj Reddick and maybe Austin Reeves franchise 253 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: going forward. So if you look under the hood, they're 254 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: a mile from San Antonio and Oklahoma City and Minnesota 255 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: and Houston. They're a mile from those. I don't think 256 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: they're as good as Detroit long term. The Nicks eventually 257 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: will get it figured out and next year Halliburton and 258 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum come back, and Philadelphia is on the rise, 259 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: and so is Orlando. It's like it's actually easy, or 260 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: I should say easier to move off people who've been 261 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: highly mobile right like Lebron's bounced around the league. He's 262 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: been the ultimate opportunist, and I totally defend him on that. 263 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: He has been front and center of the player empowerment era. 264 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: Barkley's and Jordan's they're not as comfortable moving around. But 265 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: now these days, if you don't consider moving, people look 266 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: at you and go, are you crazy? That's because of Lebron. 267 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: Lebron's been great for players. Tiger Woods was great for golf. 268 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: Lebron's been great for NBA player empowerment. Is he good 269 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: for the ratings? Well, Lakers still get a lot of 270 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: ratings when they play the Warriors every Christmas are near then, 271 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: But it's easier to move off somebody that's moved off 272 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: multiple teams. Lebron is a businessman at this point first 273 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: and a basketball player. I don't know, keep the thing 274 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: the thing, but for his entire career he's a basketball 275 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: guy that did business. Lebron now's kind of a business 276 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: guy who's still pretty good at basketball. But moving off 277 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: hims not difficult. The agents talking. Look, they're a worst 278 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: team defensively. When he's on the floor, he's not always available. 279 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: You can be a credit to the game, and it 280 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: can be time. But part of me thinks the Lakers 281 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: sold this because the discomfort of the Lebron exit. Lebron's exit, 282 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: he's been exiting his entire career. He exited from Cleveland, 283 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: his hometown twice, pat Riley. And remember when he chose 284 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: the Lakers, they stunk. He didn't choose the best basketball team. 285 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: He chose the best economy in the country, Los Angeles. 286 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: That's what he chose first. This was not a good operation. 287 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: He could have gone to four other teams when he 288 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: was closer to his prime and he's still good. But 289 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: it's not a criticism. I can think two things. All 290 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: time great, unbelievable asset to the league. Totally defend his 291 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: opperistic business ventures and moves and mobility totally defended. Think 292 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 1: it's great for players, smart smart dude with a smart circle. 293 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: And I can also think it's time to move on. 294 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: J Mack with the news. Turn on the news. 295 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: This is the herd Line news. 296 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 5: Let's start with a real conversation about Drake May who 297 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 5: may or may not win the MVP this season. But 298 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 5: let's be real, he's been pretty bad in two playoff games. 299 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 1: Now. 300 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 5: He faced the brilliant Jesse Minter and the Chargers didn't 301 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 5: do much and then kind of got swallowed up by 302 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 5: the Texans. I believe he had four fumbles lost to 303 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 5: of them. Not a great effort. May does not plan 304 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 5: to change his aggressive mentality heading into the AFC Championship. 305 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 7: No, I don't think you'll try to change it. I 306 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 7: think last week you know you change it, and Kashan 307 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,239 Speaker 7: doesn't make the play. So little things like that are 308 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 7: just knowing the time and place for I think, trying 309 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 7: to get the ball out of my hand, and just 310 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 7: being cognizant of, you know, the edge rushers and taking 311 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 7: care of football and on one thing. So if we 312 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 7: have time and have a look downfield, you know me, 313 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 7: I'm gonna take a look and take a shot. 314 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: Now, remember two things happen in the playoffs that don't 315 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: happen regularly in the regular season for quarterbacks. Number one, 316 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: the weather stinks. Matt Stafford in Chicago missed seven guys 317 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: Like did you see his completion percentage? It's much easier 318 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: at so far in September than it is in Chicago 319 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: in January. So the number one thing is he's now 320 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: quarterbacking in snow drifts. Secondly, you're facing the best defense 321 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's like Seattle. Now Stafford's got to 322 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: face the Seahawks. May had to face Houston. So quarterbacks 323 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: don't look today like they look in September and October. 324 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: The weather's lousy. You face the best schemes, the best coaches, 325 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: the best corners, the best pass rush. Drake May's won twice. 326 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence great year, couldn't win a home playoff game. 327 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: So to me, if you win in the postseason, you 328 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: know the Stafford didn't throw a pick last week. But 329 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: Stafford had three drives, two long ones, one short one. 330 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: They didn't move the ball consistently. Drake May's winning games. 331 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: I am totally okay with it. So Drake May has. 332 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 5: Five turnovers and has taken ten sacks into playoff games. 333 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: Not a great old line. New England still needs to 334 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: fortify that old line in the drafts. Not a great o' line. 335 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 5: This is a difficult one, Colin, because again, like he 336 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 5: has not been good, now he has to go on 337 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 5: the road, and remember they had faced the Patriots defense 338 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 5: overwhelmed the Texans O line and the Chargers O line 339 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 5: Boacher bottom of the league. Denver's got a great O line. 340 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 5: I have a feeling this. 341 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: Game is going to be close. Oh it is. Think 342 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: about this. If that controversial catch no catch in Denver 343 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: Buffalo was flipped, we'd be getting Josh Allen against the kid. 344 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: Oh white can think about that. We'd be getting Josh 345 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: Allen against the kid for the third time, and the 346 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: Rams Seahawks third time. So for all the it's rigged. 347 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: You did not want to eliminate Josh Allen from facing 348 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: Drake May, can you? We'd have basically Seahawks Rams NFC 349 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: and Seahawks RAMS AFC version with Patriots Bills. That arguably 350 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: you can't do better in the league than that. So 351 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: for all the you know, the call gets slipped, nobody 352 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: rigs a game to get rid of Josh Allen in 353 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. That's the team you'd want in Do 354 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: you think anybody even forget Jared Stidham, anybody rooting for 355 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: bow Nicks in the AFC Championship? You think that moves 356 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: the needle? It doesn't. 357 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 5: May is so fascinating Colin So he took the second 358 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 5: most sacks in the NFL this year. Usually guys who 359 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 5: take a ton of sacks they don't. 360 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: Rank highly in the EPA. 361 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 5: But Drake May is like one of the best in 362 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 5: the league because of these big plays. He hits Booty 363 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 5: on a one handed unbelievable catch. Outside of that, like, 364 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 5: I didn't think May had a good game, man, I'm 365 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 5: I have a feeling Denver keeps his close. I just 366 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 5: don't know if Stidham can get them there. 367 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: N grade on a totally different scale in January for offenses. 368 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, honestly, tried driving in snow. Much 369 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: easier to drive in Scottsdale, Arizona than Chicago this weekend. Well, 370 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: the tried driving in Nashville this weekend with the ice storm. 371 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: Try playing football in Chicago this past weekend. Caleb and 372 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: Matt were both great. They're completion percentages little low. What's windy, 373 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: it's cold. I mean, it's just grade in a different scale. 374 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: You'll win playoff games. I don't care about the numbers. 375 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 5: All right, Let's move on to the Philadelphia Eagles, and 376 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 5: the news just keeps getting not amazing call. The latest 377 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 5: name for this vacant OC job, which apparently nobody wants, 378 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 5: is Matt Neggy. Yeah, that guy who I know you 379 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 5: like because he worked some wonders for a season with 380 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 5: Mitchell Trubisky in Chicago. But again to Kansas City Chiefs, quietly, we're. 381 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: Like, oh, your contract expired. Oh we'll let you go 382 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: explore the market. 383 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 5: You want to go ahead, get a hot coaching job, 384 00:22:59,320 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 5: go for it. 385 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: Matt, And nobody's really beating down the door. 386 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 5: Come. 387 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: I think I think Matt Naggy's fine. There's this whole 388 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: idea that Matt Naggy's just lost, doesn't know what he's doing. 389 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: I don't buy that. I think Matt Naggy wants to 390 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: call plays. And when you're with Andy Reid, you know 391 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: Andy's on the headset, he probably wants a little more power. Also, 392 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: just pretend you're Matt Naggy. So you've been the coach 393 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: of the Chicago Bears. You got fired despite getting Miss 394 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: Trubisky a couple of times into the playoff with Matt Stafford, 395 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins in their prime same division played 396 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: him twice, and you got Trubisky into the playoffs, okay, 397 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: and then you get fired and you think, okay, I 398 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: want to take some time off, and then you go 399 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: under Andy Reid. Even when you succeed with Andy Reid, 400 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: you know what people say, Well, you didn't call any 401 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: of the plays. So I think Matt Naggy's like, I 402 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: want to go somewhere where if we win, people go, oh, 403 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: Matt Naggy, that's the problem coaching under like Sean Payton. 404 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: You can tell me, you can tell me you you're 405 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator if you work for Sean Payton, but 406 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: I know who's calling the plays. Lane Kiffin, Lincoln Riley, 407 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: Andy Reid. I mean it's hard to be it's hard 408 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: to work under them. You get to win some games, 409 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: but I don't think you're the one. I think Matt 410 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: Naggey's probably like, I I want to go somewhere where 411 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: I get some credit if we win. I'm shaking off 412 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: his knees here. Okay. 413 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 5: So here's my only problem with that. You say, he 414 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 5: goes to Philly, he'll get credit, will he? Though Shane 415 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 5: Stikeen didn't get credit. Remember it was oh my gosh, 416 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts is amazing. And then Kellen mor didn't. 417 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: Really get the credit. 418 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: Hey, Jalen Hurts was the Super Bowl MVP. Se Quon 419 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: Barkley was historic. 420 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 5: So I this is a tough job. And by the way, 421 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 5: I think we would agree if the Eagles don't, like 422 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,239 Speaker 5: suddenly get back to Super Bowl contender, everybody's getting blown out. Oh, 423 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 5: head coach is gone. So this is not a great job. 424 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 5: Here's that's why McDaniel did is like no, thanks, yeah, 425 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 5: and Dables like, nah, I'm good. 426 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: No, I think you're right. I think it's a hard job, 427 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: and I think that is very true. I think you're 428 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: spot on. 429 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 5: All right, let's go to the final story, Colin, is 430 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 5: that the New York Giants. You are all up in 431 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 5: the John Harbaugh. You are riding the big Blue train. 432 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 1: You love it. 433 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 5: Well, somebody who may not love it GM Joe Shane. 434 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 5: He's getting grilled by the New York media about the 435 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 5: perceived power shift because Harball has some say in personnel. 436 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 5: Here's Joe Shane. 437 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm not worried about that. Everywhere I've been. 438 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 8: I've been in the league for twenty six years, so 439 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 8: everywhere i've been, the head coach and general manager work together. 440 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 8: That's the only way it's gonna work and get on 441 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 8: the same page, go through the process again. We've done 442 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 8: it everywhere I've been, so I'm not worried about it. 443 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 8: Like you said, that's just you know, something on a 444 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 8: piece of paper doesn't matter. We need to work together 445 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 8: and we're going to come to the final conclusion and 446 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 8: it's always going to be about what's best for the 447 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 8: New York Giants. So I have no problem with that, 448 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 8: and you know I'm looking. 449 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 1: Forward to work with That's a good answer. 450 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 5: Oh that's that's the only answer. What you can't be combative. 451 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 5: He's happy to be employed right now. 452 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: How about we we give him credit for a good 453 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: answer in front of that relentless New York media. That 454 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: was a very good answer. Don't be in the taking 455 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: credit business. Being the winning football games and collaborating business. 456 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: That's the league now. It's not about I have all 457 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: the power. That's not what the league is. I like 458 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: that answer. I'm willing to give credit where guy hasn't 459 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: been my favorite GM, I'll say, okay, okay, but we've 460 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: got to be fair. Everybody bangs on Brandon Bean, go 461 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: look at the offense. If keon Coleman would have hit 462 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: and I thought he would. I watched him in Florida State. 463 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: I thought he was good. It's been the number one 464 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: offense last six years. The Brandon being get any credit 465 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: you can bang on. Joe Shane hated this Sakuon Barkley move. 466 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: But look at the roster. They need a right tackle. 467 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: By the way, Evan Neil, everybody liked Evan Neil out Obama. 468 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: He was a bust. Nobody thought he would be a bust. 469 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: If they get a right tackle, neighbors can stay healthy. 470 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: Go look at the Giants roster. There's been a lot 471 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: of good boos by Joe Shane. I don't think he's 472 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: I don't think he's John Snyder. I don't think he's 473 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: Howie Roseman. But I look at the Giants roster and 474 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: look at the Bills roster. Now, I don't think the 475 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: Bill's defensive roster is that. I think it's okay, very okay. 476 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: But the Giants have a lot of dudes. They got 477 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: a lot of dudes. That roster is Scataboo and Dart 478 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: and Neighbors and Andrew Thomas abduall carter Birds. They got 479 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: a lot of good player Dexter, Lawrence, Foeba Dough. They 480 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: got a lot of dudes. He drafted them, most of them. 481 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, hopefully Abdul Carter's not sleeping in team meetings and 482 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 5: missing stuff this year. But I'll just I'll go back 483 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 5: to it, the Daniel Jones contract. The day it was signed, 484 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 5: the ink wasn't dry, and you and I were savaging 485 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 5: the Giants for how bad of a deal that was. Yes, 486 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 5: that's on Joe Shane. Yeah, and then to let Saquon walk. 487 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 5: They were a laughing stock in the league the last 488 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 5: couple of years. Collin well again, mostly because of those 489 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 5: two moves. They overshadow everything. 490 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: I guess. Thibodeau, Yeah, they were high profile moves. Absolutely, 491 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. That's why he's not viewed as 492 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: a you know, uh maybe a you know, a less 493 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: snead or something. He missed on that on that move. 494 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: I'm not. But again, it is Joe Shane and Ran 495 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: and Bean now don't they just can't do anything right. 496 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: Buffalo's offense and the Giants defense. There are dudes everywhere, 497 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: and somebody's got to get credit for it. Dave All 498 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: wasn't drafting all those guys I mean he bought into 499 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: the Jackson Dart move. Jackson darts better than we thought. 500 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: Joe Shane had to sign off on that. 501 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 4: Ye. 502 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 5: My guess is Hardball walks into the building and is like, Hey, 503 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 5: you know, I like this ruben Bain guy. That's our 504 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 5: target in the first round. Hey, by the way, Joe, 505 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 5: can you got me a coffee while you while you're 506 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 5: at the printer come grabbing some updates on ruben Bain. 507 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm a Jets fan. Come on, I got to 508 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: take some shots. J Mack with the News. 509 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 2: Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The 510 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: Herd Line News. 511 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: I've got something so tasty I don't even want to 512 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: give it away yet, I want to tease it. Greg 513 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: Cosel top of Next Hour, plus the ten best players 514 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship, The Patriots or the Broncos have 515 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: more coming up next. I thought everybody was outraged and enraged, 516 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: but the Mets did it and nobody's upset. 517 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: Next be sure to catch live editions of The Herd 518 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: weekdays in noon eastern non am Pacific. 519 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 5: Seattle will be electric on Sunday with a trip to 520 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl on the line. Matthew Stafford and the 521 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 5: Rams take on Sam Darnold and the Seahawks. The NFC 522 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 5: Championship presented by Intuit TurboTax Sunday at sixties turned three 523 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 5: Pacific on Fox. 524 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've noticed. I certainly did. The 525 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: New York Mets have been very busy this offseason. Let 526 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: me read you some of their new editions. Some good ballplayers. 527 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 1: Bob Baschett just signed him one hundred and twenty six million, 528 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: Marcus Simeon seventy two million from the Rangers. Luis Robert Junior. 529 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: White Sox don't have many good players. He was one. 530 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: They owe him twenty million, Jorge Polonko forty million, Devin 531 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: Williams three years, fifty one million, Luke Weaver twenty two 532 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: million of Freddie Peralta. They made that deal yesterday. Gave 533 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: up some minor leaguers and brewers. Got some good minor 534 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: leaguers infielder, pitcher. But they're going to have to pay 535 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: in one year Freddy Paralta a lot of money. That's interesting. 536 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 1: One hundred and twenty six million, seventy two million, forty million. 537 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: Where's the where's the outrage? Well, the owner should be furious. 538 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: Nobody spent more money last five years than Steve Cohen, 539 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: the richest owner. But you don't care because the Mets 540 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:42,239 Speaker 1: of the Mettanell underachieve. It's their brand. Cody Bellinger one 541 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty large Yankees also got one of the 542 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: Marlins garage sale got a good Marlins pitcher cricket because 543 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: you don't respect their front office either. I talked about 544 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: this yesterday when I hear the Kyle Tucker acquisition by 545 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: the Dodgers from the Cubs, that owners over the top 546 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,239 Speaker 1: Chicago couldn't wait to get him out of town. They 547 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: upgraded at third and on their staff let him go. 548 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: They complained about him for a year that he didn't 549 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: care about baseball. He's the eighth best Dodger, maybe ninth 550 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: if Tyler Glasno's healthy. So I look at this five 551 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: years Steve Cohen's been in baseball, richest owner, only made 552 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: the Playoff twice. So you don't care. You're not threatened 553 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: by the Mets and you're not threatened by the Yankees currently. 554 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: You used to complain a little about that hot stove 555 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: thing when you had Jeter in his prime and Mariano 556 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: and Bernie Williams and they were winning. Then it made 557 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: you uncomfortable. Now you don't trust them. Yeah, I mean 558 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: they went and got Cody Bellinger for one hundred and 559 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: sixty two million dollars, not a crickets. So I've said 560 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: this with the Dodgers. Here's the chart. You need to 561 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: look at the revenue and payroll percentage of revenue chart. 562 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: I grabbed this from twenty twenty four. Yes, the Dodgers 563 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: make seven hundred and fifty two million, but they spend 564 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: seventy three percent of that seven hundred and fifty two million. 565 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: The Yankees make almost as much, seven hundred twenty eight million, 566 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: they spend less than fifty percent of it. So what 567 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: you're seeing is outside of the Mets and the Blue Jays, 568 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: the Dodgers just spend a lot of their profits. Your 569 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: billionaire could do it too. By the way, the Orioles 570 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: Little Old Baltimore three hundred and sixty six million, they 571 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: only spend half of it on players and talent. So 572 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: the Dodgers President of Baseball ops Andrew Friedman, on this 573 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: notion that they're ruining baseball. 574 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 9: We don't pay much attention to that because we operate 575 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 9: within the rules, and we do everything we can to 576 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 9: put ourselves in the best position both short term and 577 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 9: long term, and we're not thinking about more macro. 578 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: Things outside of that. 579 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 9: It is about how can we win as many games 580 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 9: and put ourselves in the best position to win a 581 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 9: championship in twenty twenty without really compromising ourselves out into 582 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 9: the future and falling off that proverbial cliff. 583 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: Like, I'm not a fan of socialism, and salary caps 584 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: to some degree are sports socialism. Don't you dare spend well, 585 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of money in New York. There's a 586 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: lot of money in Houston. There's a lot of money 587 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and San Francisco. If the Dodgers want 588 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: to spend it, god love them. I mean, like, when 589 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: I watch the Dodgers play, it's like an All Star game. 590 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I I to me Toronto. Now, Toronto's the powerhouse, 591 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: economic bell cow of Canada. They're spending a ton of 592 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: money and a big chunk of what they make. The 593 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: owners in the Blue Jays they could absolutely pocket it. No, 594 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: they want a great baseball team. The Orioles are good. 595 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: Could they get great? They could have. They spent seventy 596 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: two percent of their revenue, not forty nine point nine percent. 597 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: So again, I'm more concerned about the floor. I think 598 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: billionaires there should be a limitation they have. There's a 599 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: floor that you have to spend seventy five million dollars 600 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: a year. That's what worries me. Just taking the Dodgers' 601 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: money and the Yankees and Steve Cohen's money pocketing it. 602 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: That would bother me. Raise the floor. I don't care 603 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: about the ceilings spend. LA is a huge economy. It's 604 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: hundreds of times bigger than Cincinnati. Of course they're going 605 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: to have a better roster. So I was thinking about this. 606 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: There has been you know, I was talking to it, 607 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: texting a GM during the Indiana game and I said, 608 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: oh boy, that run looked a lot like Andrew luck 609 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: And he said, well, he's not Andrew Luck er Elway, 610 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: And he's right, he's not. He's not. He's not that. 611 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: I think he's better than a lot of people think. 612 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: I think he's an absolute franchise quarterback. The only thing 613 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 1: that could ruin him is possibly the Jets, and thankfully 614 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: he won't go there. But what's interesting about Indiana, and 615 00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm not denying that Indiana's roster this year, it is 616 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: better than last year's roster. Last year that a couple 617 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: guys drafted. This year, they'll have the number one pick, 618 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: but no other first round guys. Is that The truth 619 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: is this story. Signetti's getting the credit. If you didn't 620 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: have Fernando Mendoza. They lose to Miami. That's not even arguable. 621 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: That fourth down run by Mendoza and that fourth down pass. 622 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: They lose to Miami. They lose to Penn State. I 623 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: watched that game. No other college quarterback could make the 624 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: throws that kid was making against Penn State on the road. 625 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: It was magical. And they probably lose to Ohio State. 626 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: And what they are is a really good football team. 627 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: But they're not Cinderella. They're not this Signetti. We don't fumble, 628 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: we don't we don't drop snaps. All of that is true. 629 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: They didn't have an errand snap all year. They didn't 630 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 1: have a fumble their last fifteen games. They don't drop passes, 631 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: all of it's absolutely true. That doesn't make national champion 632 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: with their roster and even with that coach, because to 633 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: win a national champion chip, you have to go undefeated. 634 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: At the point when they face Miami one loss, they're 635 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: not champs. I think Mendoza strangely gets I mean, let's 636 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: be honest about college football. The last decade or so, 637 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of quarterbacks that have won Natties 638 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: that have largely been carried by the roster. A mac Jones, 639 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: O Will Howard, A JJ McCarthy. They're fine, but if 640 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: you go look at the last six national championships, Mac Jones, 641 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: Stetson Bennett twice, McCarthy, Will Howard, there's only one of 642 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: those guys, only one of those guys where the team 643 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: has multiple losses if he's not the quarterback. I think 644 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, Stetson Bennett, I think there's a lot of 645 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that could have taken that Michigan roster and those 646 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: Georgia rosters the Natties. I'm nothing against Will Howard. I 647 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 1: like Will Howard a lot. I thought he was didn't 648 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: he go to a Syracuse He was really good play. 649 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: I like him a lot. I think there are a 650 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: couple of quarterbacks that could have won a Natty with 651 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: that team. So I and all this stuff about Signetti 652 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: and he isn't a terrific coach. Let's not forget as 653 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: great as Andy Reid is. He kept getting beat in 654 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: the playoffs until he had Mahomes. We always look at 655 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: college football it's coach first, and it usually is. I 656 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: think Mendoz is really special and the reason I have 657 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: compared him to Andrew Luck and he's not the prospect 658 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:35,240 Speaker 1: of Andrew Luck. Size, toughness, almost seeks out contact early 659 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: in the game, late game, drives poise, humility, gratitude, great parents. 660 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: It was Kyle McCord, there we go. Will Howard was 661 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: from Kansas State. Howard replaced Yeah McCord. McCord went to Syracuse, right. 662 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: I like Kyle McCord. I like Will Howard, but I 663 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 1: think there's other guys that could have done that. Dante 664 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: Moore does not win a Natty at Indiana, Nope. Ty Simpson, 665 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: in my opinion, does not win a Natty with this team. 666 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: I think this guy is a different grade. And you know, 667 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong on this stuff, and I'm not in 668 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: any way saying Signetti's not magical. This is a really 669 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: good roster in Indiana. It's not as good as Georgia, 670 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: It's not as good as Texas, not as good as 671 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 1: Ohio State, I'll tell you right now, not as good 672 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: as Miami. Miami had forty five players who are four 673 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: or five stars. Indiana's got seven do the division like 674 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: one six, one seventh the roster. Urban Meyer was at 675 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: that game on the sideline. He's like, he told me 676 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: off air the other day, but he was like, in person, 677 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: one of them looked like an NFL team. One of 678 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: them looked like a good college team. So here's Signetti 679 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: on Mendoza leading him to a title. 680 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 10: We've got the right people, and anything's possible in our 681 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 10: particular situation in the athletic world. 682 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:54,919 Speaker 1: College football has. 683 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 10: Changed quite a bit, the balance of power also. But 684 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 10: with the right people on our staff in the weight room, 685 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 10: in the locker room, and with had great senior leadership 686 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 10: and togetherness, and we had a really good quarterback that 687 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,479 Speaker 10: played us best when the chips were down. 688 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, you go to that Miami game. In that Penn 689 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: State game, I'm telling you that's a first round That's 690 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: not only a first round quarterback, that's a number one pick. 691 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: I sat on my couch. I had missed the first half. 692 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,919 Speaker 1: I turned into Penn State Indiana second half. Penn State 693 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: had a backup quarterback and they were mowing up and 694 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: down the field. They had more yards in Indiana that day. 695 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: And Mendoza put on a cape. I mean he put 696 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: on a mahomes cape. It was like holy he was 697 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 1: making throws. That crowds ninety thousand. He was so good 698 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: at that Penn State second half. It was by the way, 699 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: they could have lost to Iowa, they could have lost 700 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: Ohio State. They should have lost to Miami. Miami, I 701 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: thought was the better team in the second half. Just 702 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: Mendoza the run. I'm not knocking Indiana. It's a great story, 703 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: but we keep talking about they don't fumble and they 704 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of errant snaps. It's not like 705 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: Harbaugh's team fumbled a ton and had a bunch of 706 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: air snaps either. I mean, like right, like National Chance. 707 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: Miami's so good, they do make mistakes. Indiana can't make 708 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: those mistakes Miami cannon did all year and came with 709 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: it a you know, one pick late of winning the 710 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: whole thing. J Mac top ten players in the AFC 711 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: Championship around the corner plus Greg Cosell. 712 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 5: Hey can we go back to so if remember the 713 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 5: whole Brady versus Belichick, who got more credit for the 714 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,760 Speaker 5: Patriots dynasty. 715 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 1: Forever with Belichick until the divorce. Yeah. Yeah, So it's 716 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: a little tougher. 717 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 5: With Signetti versus Mendoza. They're both great. Yeah, I don't 718 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 5: know that there's a right answer. I mean, well, listen, 719 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 5: somebody had to call the play on fourth down. Somebody 720 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 5: had to call the play. Then Mendoza delivered, right. 721 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: Yes, in the NFL, it's understood, it's seventy thirty even 722 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: with a great coach, it's sixty five thirty five quarterback over. 723 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: I mean, Mahomes has proven that with Andy Reid, Breeze 724 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: and Sean Payton. I mean, we know the quarterback. He's 725 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: got the ball and by the way, we don't huddle 726 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: as much now, so you got the ball for seventy plays, 727 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: not fifty two. Yeah. So quarterbacks have never been more 728 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: velt At the college level, it's coach first, because recruiting 729 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 1: is so much about the coach. But I'll tell you 730 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 1: they're not sixteen to zero without Mendoza.