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Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's your friend Kate Max.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to post Ran High. So last week we

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Speaker 2: drove up to Bridgehampton, Connecticut, where John Party was making

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Speaker 2: a stop on his Honky Tonk Hollywood tour, and wow,

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Speaker 2: I just have to say, guys, you and I have

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Speaker 2: been on a country music artist bender these last few months.

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Speaker 2: From Dirk s Bentley to Jordan Davis to John Party.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking up next we need Kelsey Vallerini and I

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Speaker 2: just have to say that was also John's suggestion. So

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Speaker 2: my fingers are crossed and let me know what you

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Speaker 2: guys are thinking. But John and I started off with

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Speaker 2: a two mile run on the Long Island Sound and

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Speaker 2: then we sat down to record this conversation. Today, we're

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Speaker 2: diving into John's California roots, the grind that took him

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Speaker 2: from playing dive bars to headlining arenas, and how a

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Speaker 2: California boy became a true Nashville staple. With more than

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Speaker 2: four point two billion total streams and multiple number one singles,

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Speaker 2: John's not just a fan favorite, He's one of the

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Speaker 2: most respected names in Nashville. He's one CMA New Artist

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Speaker 2: of the Year, an ACM New Male Vocalist, of the Year,

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Speaker 2: and in twenty twenty three, he earned one of country

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Speaker 2: music's highest honors, induction into the Grand Ole Opry. Today,

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Speaker 2: we're going to get into life on the road, touring

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Speaker 2: versus home life, and what it really takes to build

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Speaker 2: longevity in country music.

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Speaker 1: John is a who.

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Speaker 2: He's truly one of those people who reminds you that

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Speaker 2: hard work and authenticity never go out of style.

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Speaker 1: So let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: This is John Party on Post Run High.

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Speaker 1: John Party, Welcome to Post Run High. Yeah, how are

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Speaker 1: you feeling feel good?

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Speaker 2: We ran about two miles. We're currently in Connecticut. You've

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Speaker 2: got a show tonight. It's nice get a little movement in.

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Speaker 3: Before your show, little beach run.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the fact that you have a performance tonight.

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Speaker 2: You did a little bit of a lifting workout before

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Speaker 2: our run then, and like you're getting a lot of steps.

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Speaker 3: In in a day, a lot of burning calories and

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Speaker 3: stand in shape. You know, it's a high energy show

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Speaker 3: and you need to have, you know, high energy, and

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Speaker 3: you can only really get there by working on and

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Speaker 3: doing cardio. Even like my vocal coach, he's like, you're

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Speaker 3: doing cardio and I'm like no, It's like you need

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Speaker 3: to up your cardio. And so when the whole Run

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Speaker 3: Your Show came along, I was like, oh, I'm totally

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Speaker 3: down because they usually do you know, a gym, Planet

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean honestly, like once John heard that

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Speaker 2: Jordan Davis did one mile, he was like, well, I

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Speaker 2: absolutely have to do too. So we were getting a

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Speaker 2: little bit competitive amongst the country folk, with which I like.

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Speaker 3: I mean, two miles is a good standard.

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Speaker 1: What did you say it was your doctor was telling

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Speaker 1: you that you got to get cardio.

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Speaker 2: In or your tour manager okay, vocal coach. I like

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Speaker 2: knowing that because I mean you mentioned it when we

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Speaker 2: were running. But when Taylor Swift was on her erroostur,

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Speaker 2: everybody was like, did you know she trains while running

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Speaker 3: That's what I heard. I don't know if it's true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it's true either. We we

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Speaker 2: But I do have to say my hot take is

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Speaker 2: that if you want to get good at something, to

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Speaker 2: do it while running or dancing.

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Speaker 3: Dancing is very high demand and it's very physically like.

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Speaker 2: Like the real dancers do you feel like when you're

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Speaker 2: performing on stage, like are you getting it? Like?

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Speaker 1: Are you sweaty?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Christmas. I'm a beast when it comes

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Speaker 3: to sweating, Like I feel bad for people who touch me. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because you know they get off shows. Somebody wants a photo.

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Speaker 3: I'm like drenched and sweat But I'm a sweater. I

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Speaker 3: am too, just like embarrassing sweaty sucks. Shout out on

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Speaker 3: my sweaters out there. Go deal with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's it's hard for us out there.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to keep a towel on a spare shirt

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, sometimes, especially this summer when we were

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Speaker 2: doing this show, I would have to tell people like listen,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be in the same outfit after the run.

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Speaker 2: I do recommend if you're uncomfortable being sweaty on camera,

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Speaker 2: like for the podcast with the lights, bring a change

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Speaker 3: Well, we got lucky. You had a nice breeze, so

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Speaker 1: And we're drinking a cold beer.

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Speaker 3: And we got a cold beer.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is cheers boom non alcoholic for anybody

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Speaker 3: Yeah, non alcoholic.

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Speaker 2: First time drinking a cold beer during a podcast, and

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of loving it.

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Speaker 3: It's good, it's good for the soup.

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Speaker 2: Guys, we're gonna insert if you're watching this, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: insert a little clip from John and I's run, just

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Speaker 2: so you get a little taste of what we were

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Speaker 2: up to and what we were talking about.

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Speaker 1: Hey, John, how many miles are we running today?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Man, I just got a good work out in him.

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Speaker 3: But you know what, we can allay use some cardio.

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Speaker 3: So I'm down for a mile, but let's go somewhere pretty.

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Speaker 1: What's a quoter mottol that you live by?

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Speaker 3: Winner's just a loser to try one more time. Take

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Speaker 3: the losses on the chin, pick your head up, get

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Speaker 3: back at it, and go get the win.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, nothing is better than a nice run before sitting

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Speaker 3: Poor beer.

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Speaker 1: But definitely felt good out there.

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Speaker 3: It was great.

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Speaker 2: And now we got that post run high going and flowing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. One of the best friends of the year right there.

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Speaker 1: And we're currently in Connecticut.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I mentioned that yet, but we're

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Speaker 2: sitting at the venue where John's going to be performing tonight.

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Speaker 1: This venue is so homey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's very nice.

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Speaker 2: And it's been so cool to witness how your team

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Speaker 2: comes and sets up. I'm like, you got a full

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Speaker 3: We set the circus up every night, and we tear

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Speaker 2: And I was watching one of your team members set

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Speaker 2: is an impressive wardrobe set you got behind here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's me and the band.

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Speaker 1: How would you describe your outfits on stage? Like what

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Speaker 3: Right now? I'm really into staying cool because we're going

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Speaker 2: And I was peeping from a distance. I wasn't touching

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Speaker 1: Just to be clear, you can look at it.

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Speaker 2: You've got some fun T shirt like not T shirts

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Speaker 2: like polo button downs and funky colors and patterns.

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Speaker 1: Like you're wearing some bright clothes on stage.

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Speaker 3: Those are snap shirts snap shirts, yeah, like Western Western

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Speaker 3: a long time.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys get into what you wear on stage?

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Speaker 1: Like is it a big part of the show for you?

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Speaker 1: Like do you like?

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Speaker 3: Oh, these are pearl snaps for my New York girl

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you can like take it off on stage.

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Speaker 3: Girls love this.

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Speaker 1: Easy access.

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Speaker 2: Maybe got to get you some pearl snaps.

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Speaker 3: All right. Hey, we've got a good space here, buddy.

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Speaker 2: I'm so cozy on this couch. Normally we're sitting in

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Speaker 2: you grew up in California. Am I getting it right?

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Speaker 1: Is it Dixon, California where you grew up?

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Speaker 2: So when I think of California, I don't always think

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Speaker 3: Dixon's a farm town. That's it's close to the Bay Area,

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Speaker 2: Would you say that country in California, Northern California where

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Speaker 3: A little bit. I man, it's more high energy, it's

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Speaker 1: It's interesting.

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Speaker 2: You got you gotta drive influence from wherever you live.

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Speaker 2: And we were talking about it, but you've been living

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Speaker 1: But what I love.

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Speaker 2: About you is you see it with a lot of

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Speaker 2: that just came out this year, twenty twenty five is

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Speaker 2: Honky ton Hollywood. You know, so you do always throw

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Speaker 2: it back a little bit to your California roots a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit when I hear Hockey Hollywood, though, I think in Nashville.

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Speaker 3: Really yeah, it's it's very honky tongue Hollywood. Ye had

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Speaker 2: Thing right now, You're right, Nashville definitely is Honky Tonk Hollywood.

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Speaker 2: And I should have just said California Sunrise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, California Sunrise. But when I when I but a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what was your life like growing up?

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Speaker 1: Like, what kind of kid were you?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Knucklehead, class clown. I had a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: I'm always playing music, you know, working hard, worked a

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Speaker 1: Big tractors stuf. We got a real cowboy here.

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Speaker 3: We did a lot of dirt moving and went and worked.

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Speaker 3: a little bit of everything. You know. In high school

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Speaker 3: No, she was just worked at the university. But now

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Speaker 1: From what like whipping a rope around your head? Oh wow,

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Speaker 3: I don't have horses, but they're paying the butt and

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Speaker 3: it's hard to see my baby girls. I couldn't imagine

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Speaker 2: So you know, for me, when I tore my ACL

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Speaker 3: Coach, I want to I wouldn't have made college football.

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Speaker 3: I was too slow and I was too unfocused. My

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Speaker 3: that's just what I did. That's what I was known for,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so cool, Like just thinking about that. You know, football,

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Speaker 3: Kittle? I mean, Kittle is a leader, He's a great

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Speaker 3: I always looked up to his rowdiness. How he like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it makes sense that you like somebody

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Speaker 2: your industry too, and with what you do with your band,

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Speaker 2: We were talking about the first song that you wrote

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Speaker 3: I was twelve, I had no girlfriend. I've never even

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I got dumped back in the day. Like

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Some in college too. You know, I live in

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Speaker 3: We've been together for fourteen years. Like it's like family.

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Speaker 2: Who were your early country music influences growing up? Like

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Speaker 3: Mean there's definitely George stra Randy Travis, Alan, Jackson Brooks

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Speaker 2: I loved learning that your grandma had a big influence

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Speaker 3: Yep, Grandma Loretta, she loved the scene, loved singing.

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Speaker 3: She was just like she was just a singer.

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Speaker 3: If your yeah, oh yeah, big karaoke. That was the

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Speaker 3: I can't I can't believe we left out Garth Brooks.

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Speaker 2: I mean, And maybe it was your grandma, maybe it

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Speaker 2: you to go for it because sometimes, you know, sometimes

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Speaker 2: But it seems like you had it, you know, like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know at the time, and my parents were

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Speaker 3: He gave me a home, he gave me some ado

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Speaker 3: Jason Harrison bless blessed soul, God bless him me. He

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Speaker 2: Isn't that amazing to have people that you grew up

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Cool. And now we sit around and talk about

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Speaker 3: like we'll never get those back. And little did we

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Speaker 1: Right and like there was no you were in the crowd.

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Speaker 3: I was in the crowd.

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Speaker 1: It's so true. What do you miss the most about

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Speaker 3: It was just everything was just fresh, you were, everything

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Speaker 3: just it's just a grind. You know, it wasn't a

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Speaker 2: It's like now you're kind of like living the dream

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's all everybody always misses those early grind

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Speaker 3: We would go we would go to Chico's Stay and

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking that.

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Speaker 2: But you know what came to my mind when you

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Speaker 2: support first and growing from there. And that happens with

442
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 2: flyers and CDs and yeah, grassroots kind of approach.

443
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 3: Yeah no, well, the flowers are cool, but it was

444
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 3: but you know it was as innocent. You were just

445
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 3: having fun. You're wanting people to come see you.

446
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 2: Well, my favorite thing during our run was finding out

447
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 2: that at twenty two you had this crazy flow.

448
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: You know, you were in Nashville trying to make it happen.

449
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 2: And one of my favorite things about talking to Dirk

450
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 2: s Bentley and Jordan Davis and Margot Price and you know,

451
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 2: the greats along alongside you is that there is an

452
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 2: art to Nashville, to songwriting and country music and you

453
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 2: really have to learn. What Dirk said is like you

454
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 2: really have to learn the craft of country music and

455
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 2: put the years in so like, let's talk about what

456
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 2: those years looked like for you as somebody that always

457
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 2: loved country music was all like basically your whole life writing.

458
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 2: But then you get to Nashville and like, what did

459
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 2: you have to learn?

460
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 3: I say, the most impressive thing is you learning how

461
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 3: to present yourself in a talking environment, whether it's at

462
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 3: an interview, you can get a lot of stuff done

463
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 3: at dinner. Being an impressive storyteller, just being realistic and

464
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 3: relatable in person. It's something I learned in Nashville. I've

465
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 3: always had it, but it was like really developing, you know,

466
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 3: going to dinner and like, you know, let getting people

467
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 3: to meet you with just you just got one dinner.

468
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 3: You got it's like one time to make this person

469
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 3: or this girl play you on the radio or like

470
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 3: do this, and it's like have a good time. Of

471
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,880
Speaker 3: course we love drinking party, but like you know, it's

472
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,959
Speaker 3: it was about being presentable, not just on stage, off stage.

473
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 3: That's a big thing that I learned. And I remember

474
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 3: Mike Duncan. Duncan he signed me to Capitol Records. He said,

475
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 3: welcome to the fish Bowl. Everybody's watching, and I was like, yeah,

476
00:22:58,920 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 3: that's true.

477
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 1: How did that feel?

478
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 3: It's great? But he gave me. He gave me a

479
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 3: lot of you know, tips like the fish bowl and

480
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 3: he said, you know, walk around and meet everybody at

481
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 3: the label because these guys say your name every day

482
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 3: they're calling somebody trying to do something for you, you know,

483
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 3: say get to know them, say you know, be presentable

484
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 3: and like little things like that that you never forget.

485
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 3: And of course we we've always had fun. Everything we

486
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: do is fun. Yeah, I mean it's so sometimes we

487
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 3: like make the fun stop.

488
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 2: No, it is so cool, and like your team is

489
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 2: so fun just being here with you guys today, Like

490
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: everybody's having a good time, which is so nice to see.

491
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: And it's just a testament to you.

492
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 2: And like the work environment that you create for your

493
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: teammates and the people that work with you.

494
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 3: Sometimes good now and then. But it's out of love.

495
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 3: It's out of love.

496
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, sometimes it gets like.

497
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 3: Ken cowboy around here.

498
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: Come on, no, that's fair, that's fair. Work is work.

499
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: Did you have to do like multiple jobs at any

500
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 2: point when you were before you signed with the record label?

501
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: Like were you you know, were you roughing it at all?

502
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: And Ashville?

503
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 3: I mean I had a townhouse that I got and

504
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 3: I had roommates and it helped pay pay my mortgage,

505
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 3: which was nice. But I played at Losers. Shout out

506
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 3: Steve everybody at Losers.

507
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel about that, Barney.

508
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 3: It's one of the best bars in Nashville. Okay, sorry,

509
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: all right, okay, And when you go to Nashville, you

510
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: just go on down to Losers in Midtown. You'll see

511
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 3: my home. I have a lot of friends that are

512
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: family now there.

513
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: I feel like I'll have a lot of street a

514
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: lot of street crowds. If I say that John Party

515
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: sent me yep, and.

516
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 3: You'll see my my name's on the wall on the

517
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 3: road sign right up there.

518
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: I'll send you a selfie with it.

519
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 3: In a couple of weeks, send me a selfie. Uh,

520
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 3: that's where I first started playing in Nashville. I gotta

521
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 3: start writing songs. You know, I've been writing songs, but

522
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 3: I wanted to move to Nashville to get into the

523
00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 3: co writing world, the songwriting world that was you know

524
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 3: I did. I did the four hours in bars in California,

525
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 3: like I've done that. Really wanted to focus on songwriting.

526
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 3: So we wrote songs for years, and I got a

527
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 3: publishing deal, which is a songwriter you paid to write songs,

528
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 3: which led to demos and then what's led the showcases

529
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 3: to which led to getting signed to the record label.

530
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 3: And then we spent four years in the van touring

531
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 3: the country the South. I remember the first time I

532
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: ever played in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, and they're like, man, you

533
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: want to get the crowd ready, you just say roll Tide.

534
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 3: And it was like roal, I mean the crowd. We

535
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 3: must have said roll Tide like twenty times on stage,

536
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 3: and like I was like, college towns are awesome because

537
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 3: I've just been on the West coast. It's like the

538
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 3: Southern I love football. And we would tour all around

539
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 3: the South in the van, and then we got our

540
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 3: first bus in like twenty fifteen. Then sixteen, Head of

541
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: a Boots came out and then it just kind of

542
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 3: kept going. But that's a really fast story.

543
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 2: From the time that you signed with your record label.

544
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: How long after did you put out your first album?

545
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: Four years?

546
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: Wow, So it takes it took four years to write

547
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 1: that album.

548
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 3: It took six years to get a number one.

549
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: What was your first number one? It was it Boots.

550
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like the first album is really good. It's actually

551
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 3: it actually went gold, which was like a big deal

552
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 3: to me because it was my first record and you know,

553
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 3: it wasn't like the biggest commercial sex success, but like

554
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 3: it's got that we have more of a grassroots following

555
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 3: where they go back and they listen to everything, and

556
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: there's some great songs on that record I'm proud of.

557
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 3: I'm very proud of the right You song record. It

558
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 3: just California Sunrise became such a monster album.

559
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, California Sunrise, I feel like, is what a lot

560
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 2: of people would consider, like they it has so many

561
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 2: bangers on it.

562
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 1: People love that album from you.

563
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 3: All my albums got bangers on everybody. You just need

564
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 3: to go listen to all the albums.

565
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: No, that is true, that's a fact. But California and Sunrise.

566
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: People go crazy for some of those songs.

567
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was it just hit a vein

568
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 3: that needed to be hit. You know, that met a

569
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 3: lot of people, especially at a time, you know, as

570
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: it was a huge bro country is huge?

571
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: What is bro country?

572
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 3: It was like Florida Georgia line. But it was fun,

573
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 3: it was real. It was just kind of different beat.

574
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 3: It was real, it was real catchy and it was fun. Hell.

575
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember when I first heard a Cruise.

576
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: I was like, that was a monster song. That baby

577
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 3: was song You make Me. It was such a monster song.

578
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 3: But I was like, man, they took over and it

579
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 3: was like this whole new sound and then here comes

580
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: the head of a boots, a country shuffle dance love song,

581
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: and it would just was completely different than what was

582
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: going on. And I think that's what California. Sunrise kind

583
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 3: of came in and it was dirt on my boots.

584
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 3: It was hardly going to dance floor and the night

585
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 3: shift just all this kind of different country kind of attitude. Dude,

586
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 3: you know, the West Coast swagger with high energy.

587
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and high energy was something that you referenced on

588
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: your run, and I agree I think a lot of

589
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: your songs have really really high energy and you feel

590
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 2: it in the lyrics and just in the in the

591
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: beat of the song. Let's start with your debut album.

592
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 2: What was going on in your life at that time?

593
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: And then how does it differ from California Sunrise, Like

594
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 2: when you think about the evolution, I.

595
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 3: Mean, write your song was like that was just years

596
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: of writing in town into my first record and just rowdy,

597
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 3: you know, upbeat, fast, living in you know, rocking, playing

598
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 3: in a band, driving a van everywhere. You know, it

599
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: was very just rowdy breakup songs in and out of relationships.

600
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun, you know, I mean

601
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 3: there it was just really what I was living up

602
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 3: all night. Write you a song, Love You from Here.

603
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: It still one of my favorites off that record, Trasha,

604
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: Hotel Room, when I've been drinking what I Can't put down.

605
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: I mean, those are all singles that didn't do very well.

606
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: Missing You Crazy charted, died at twenty three, but it

607
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: all went top forty. But it was just like a

608
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: you know, it was like you were just trying to

609
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: knock through the door and trying to have them open

610
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: the door, and then through the time from like twenty

611
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 3: and fourteen thirteen, fourteen fifteen. You know, I was writing

612
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: California Sunrise with a different attitude, like I'm going to

613
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: get on the radio. I'm going to get number one,

614
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: and then that kind of just head of Her Boots

615
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 3: just kind of set the tone and then we just

616
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: became played on the radio.

617
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: Do you remember writing head of Her Boots? What was

618
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: the story behind the song.

619
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: Well, it was just we were in Texas. My dad

620
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: lives in Texas, and you know those are we were

621
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: out cowboy in and you know, going out and experienced

622
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 3: at Texas dance halls and like got a lot of

623
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: friends there, and you know, we're having fun roping and

624
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: doing all kinds of Texas things, and Texas loves to day.

625
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 3: I always shout out to every body Texas keeping the

626
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 3: dance halls alive. And they were always they were dancing

627
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 3: like Sadborough Haggard songs.

628
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: You know.

629
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,239
Speaker 3: I was like, man, I need to write like a

630
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 3: fun upbeat two step in the song it's about falling

631
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: in love. And I remember writing that I want to

632
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: sweep you off your feet and I want to sweep

633
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: you off your feet, and I recorded in my phone,

634
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: brought it back to Luke Laired, one of my favorite songwriters,

635
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 3: and we wrote that thing like an hour and a

636
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: half and then we were doing the work tape and

637
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: and then you know, I kind of everybody I played

638
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,719
Speaker 3: it four really loved it, and we recorded it, and

639
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: then you know, Capitol promo was like, this is gonna

640
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: be our first single off California Sunrise. It's like a shuffle.

641
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 3: You're gonna record this, like, oh no, this country's song

642
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 3: on the record. You want to put this out first.

643
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 3: And I was glad they did.

644
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: You know, I was asking you on the run what

645
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: the formula is to a good country song and what's

646
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: the secret to learn in you know, how to write

647
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: country music and you were saying, I think the secret

648
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: is writing fast and just putting songs together. And when

649
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: I was talking to Dirk's he was saying that, you know,

650
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: one of the tech techniques that he does is it's

651
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: just like you sit there with post it notes. You

652
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: write a song, slap it on a post it note,

653
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: write another song, slap it, and then just shove them

654
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: all on a drawer, and at some point you write

655
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: a banger. I'm curious, like when you write a banger

656
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: after writing hundreds of songs, do you know it?

657
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: I think it's a feeling you never really know, you know,

658
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: you never really know.

659
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: It just feels good, can't You kind of know in

660
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: the recording studio though, when you're like putting the song together,

661
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: if it sounds good.

662
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: I mean, you can always say it feels like a hit.

663
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: That's not hurt nohing. That doesn't mean gonna be it.

664
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean it's gonna be it.

665
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

666
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 3: I've been through a lot of hits songs and warn't hits,

667
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: but they're now fan favorites because there's still that emotion

668
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: that you like, this is a hit in regardless of

669
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: what the charts say, it means something. Especially with streaming

670
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: now we can really tally up the streams like this

671
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: is streaming, you know, like this wasn't this is only

672
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: a top twenty song or top thirty, but it's streaming

673
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: like it's playing top ten, you know. So I always say,

674
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: now more than ever, the fans can decide.

675
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: Is there any song on one of your albums that

676
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 2: you think deserved more love than it got?

677
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: There's a lot She ain't in it ain't. I was

678
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: a cowboy yeah, there's a lot.

679
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: What's it like going from writing your own music to

680
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 1: now starting to work with some incredible songwriters in collaboration, Like,

681
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: is that a turning point for an artist?

682
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I love cutting outside songs that song where

683
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: send in and I always try to make my own

684
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 3: because a lot of people don't know which ones I wrote,

685
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: write because I try to mold it into something and

686
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: I would write and I look at outside songs as like, well,

687
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: I don't have to write that kind of song anymore,

688
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 3: thank you you, because I don't have time. Yeah, for

689
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: a lot of things. You know, it's it's hard enough.

690
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: Songwriting is very time consuming, and it should be. When

691
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: I say written fast, it's naturally written fast, like it

692
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: just happens. And that's just something that like usually those

693
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: are like big songs that just kind of pour out

694
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 3: of you. That's what I've said was fast. It wasn't

695
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: like we tried to write it fast. It wasn't like

696
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: you can sit You can't sit down and say like, hey,

697
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: let's write a song an hour. Never happens. But if

698
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: you don't think about it, it just flows out. You're like, man,

699
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 3: some of those sometimes it does. There're some of the

700
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 3: best songs.

701
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: You guys are so busy when you're on tour. You're

702
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: on tour for a big chunk of the year. And

703
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: when you're on tour, we were talking about on the

704
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: run how you don't love to be songwriting while on

705
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: tour because you like to be kind of locked into

706
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: your shows, which makes sense. But then you know, when

707
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: you're not on tour, you're you're you have a family,

708
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: You've got daughters, you know, wife, two kids, and then

709
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: also making time for songwriting, like you've got so much

710
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: going on, just.

711
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: Gotta make time. It's gotta make time. It's all about,

712
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: like you said, time management. But like for little things,

713
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: we try to write at least one time a week.

714
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: It's not that demanding, doable, but still sometimes I can't

715
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 3: do it because there's so.

716
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: Much going on, and sometimes you're just not in the

717
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: mood to write right.

718
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: There's there's real things as like writer's blocks or just

719
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: not being in the right head space.

720
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's where the co writing helps. You know,

721
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 3: you get in talk about and have time. It's like

722
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 3: a therapy session anyway, you know, you get you get

723
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 3: around girls and guys you would just you know, try to,

724
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 3: like I said, be the guy in the song and

725
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 3: whatever you're going through you kind of talk about it

726
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: and then you get a song or you just get

727
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: a good hang and you know, that's the beauty of

728
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: co writing. I don't really run in the writer's block

729
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 3: because I try not to overdo it, you know, I

730
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 3: feel like that's the key.

731
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a pro pro living life. What's your advice

732
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: to young artists out there that want to make it

733
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: in Nashville?

734
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: Moved to Nashville?

735
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: Move to Nashville? First up?

736
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: Okay, second step, that's your first step.

737
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: Give us step number two.

738
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 3: Did you move to Nashville.

739
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: I live in New York.

740
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 3: I'm saying step number two. Oh did you move to Nashville? Right?

741
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: Did you move to Nashville?

742
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: Okay, so step number one? Move step number two. John

743
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: is now asking if you have moved yet? Yes, Before

744
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: we can get to step number.

745
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: Three, number three, where's your favorite bar?

746
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: Losers?

747
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: Have you met co writers?

748
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: You?

749
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: And I say this every young writers, like you know

750
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: the guys the young and you'll find young songwriters and

751
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: people you click with, and that's the guys you write with,

752
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 3: and that's like you stick with them and you get

753
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: to go write with other bigger songwriters and you just

754
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: you keep working it. But I mean you say you

755
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 3: can always say never give up, but it's like, never

756
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: get so disappointed in yourself. You know, you gotta believe

757
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 3: in yourself. It takes tough skin.

758
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? Like tough skin?

759
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 3: Oh man? People don't talk shit whatever whatever, Like you know,

760
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: I mean why people gotta be so hateful, you know

761
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: more than ever. It's like, you know, people always say

762
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: are gonna say something, and you might hear about it,

763
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 3: but you gotta like let it bounce off your skin,

764
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: you know, don't let it get to get you down.

765
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 3: Because the moment that you show those people you're successful,

766
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 3: they ain't gonna they ain't gonna say nothing bad back

767
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: you anymore because they're gonna be just like, oh, he's great,

768
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: I know, he's great. Yeah. You know. I had to

769
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: sit through losers so many times and just deal with

770
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 3: you know, bullshit.

771
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: But it's got tough it out, It's true, and it's

772
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: hard at first. I gotta say, it takes time to

773
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: to thicken your skin.

774
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially with social media and all that. Like my

775
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: favorite my wife's summer, she like responds to mean comments.

776
00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, like blocks people.

777
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: And like, you know, it's just she's protecting you.

778
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, it's her, it's hers, And then they

779
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: talk about the kids. My favorite is like when you

780
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: call out the haters and you show their little profile

781
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 3: pictures and it's so good.

782
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: That's my Favorite's gonna be Like, I'm sick of people

783
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 2: telling me I have Runner's face.

784
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: What does their face look like?

785
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: I want to see get rid of that anonymous profile picture.

786
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: We were all we were huffing and puffing out there.

787
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 3: Yeah we're running. We were running, but that's real. Yeah

788
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: Runner's face.

789
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like what do you look like?

790
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

791
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: Classic?

792
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: I love the content that you and Summer do together.

793
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: We were talking about this on our run. But you

794
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 2: guys work out together. Are you currently renovating your house?

795
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that something that's going on in the

796
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: new house? Building a new house? Yeah? I mean Summer's

797
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: got a great social media profile.

798
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, she's really good at it.

799
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like all of her, like recommendation she puts

800
00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 1: on her stories.

801
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 3: She has to you know, really influence good stuff. Excuse

802
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: so much stuff, so much stuff gets mail to the house. Amazon,

803
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 3: you bs fed x all of them random random people

804
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: just showing up with boxes like five in the morning.

805
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 2: You're like, oh my god. The worst is when Amazon

806
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: delivers at four am.

807
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's always some dude in a blue vest

808
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 3: and like a beat up car. Very suspect, but it's Amazon,

809
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 3: you know, like it's like the most suspect drivers Amazon. Ah,

810
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 3: he's good.

811
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: The worst thing is in uh in New York City,

812
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: they buzz up and the buzz is so loud. It's

813
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: not like a dainty doorbell. Yeah yeah, And I'm like,

814
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: why is I literally been emailing my building. I'm like,

815
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: I think somebody's trying to rob me and they're like, nope,

816
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: that's just your Amazon delivery.

817
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm like at four am, Oh yeah, are they allowed

818
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: to show up to?

819
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 3: Says it on there it's like four in your window,

820
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: four the eight, And you're always like, hey, won't coming

821
00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: four a m here there are.

822
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: They're there, but no.

823
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: It's been amazing to see your guys' content together. I mean,

824
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: I think it's so important to see that strong family

825
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 2: unit and you guys have it. What has it been

826
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 2: like having a supportive partner like summer in your life?

827
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean summer has been she's you know, very

828
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 3: taught me about communication and it's it's a battle, but

829
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: we talk it out. You know, we have we have

830
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: to have a date night every night. I think that's

831
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: good for parents and busy people. You know, we have

832
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: a lot of fun and it's just make time. Like

833
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: I said, time management, and it's relationship time. You know.

834
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 3: The kids take over, they take over everything. It just

835
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 3: becomes kid land.

836
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: Do they come out on tour with you?

837
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: Evere?

838
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: Have you brought the girls out on stage?

839
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: Presley's been out. She's like, she don't get it though.

840
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: Do you think either of them is gravitating towards entertainment?

841
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: Do they like singing, dancing?

842
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 3: Presley likes to sing. She loves that was a saying

843
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 3: all her songs though, Jesus loves me that little Einstein

844
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 3: theme song, she loves that one treat a little Star

845
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 3: classic classic, and then she makes up her own songs.

846
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 3: So she over her songwriting, and I'm like, well, climbing

847
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 3: the ladder, climbing the ladder. She's funny.

848
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh.

849
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 2: When I remember when I was little, I would always

850
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 2: like make up songs in the shower and thinking back

851
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: on that, I'm like, damn, my parents probably thought I

852
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: was so weird in that shower, singing like crazy, like

853
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: whatever I was, whatever was coming out of my mouth.

854
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 3: I would say, got big imagination. Yeah, kids got big imagination,

855
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 3: which they deserved.

856
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: It's kind of a beautiful thing.

857
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 3: Every kid should have a big imagination.

858
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, and one of yours.

859
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: So your your latest album is honky Ton Hollywood. We

860
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 2: referenced it in the in the beginning of this podcast.

861
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: You're on the honky Ton Hollywood tour right now. And

862
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: one of the songs we referenced on the album that

863
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: I had noticed and listened to it's a It's she

864
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: Away and uh, it's a tear jerker. Yeah, So let's

865
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: talk about the NSPO behind that song.

866
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's some great songwriters. You know, we

867
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 3: all everybody can see, you know, through socials and me

868
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 3: in summer, the girls and they look and you see

869
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 3: what's going on. And then there's girl that they got.

870
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: You know, everybody's lost songer has got kids, and it's

871
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 3: just a beautiful song. I remember I first heard I

872
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: was blown Away, and you know, put it on hold

873
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 3: and we couldn't wait to record it. It was just

874
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: so good. I love the story. I love it was tough,

875
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 3: still was still tough, and it just has a great message.

876
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 3: And you know, it's from your father in law to

877
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 3: a baby girl. You know, the one day you're you

878
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: know you're going You're going to go through everything. It's

879
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: just like an evolution of fathers and it's really pretty.

880
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: One of your songs, mister Saturday Night, is going crazy

881
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: right now on social media. It's having a viral moment,

882
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: and I think the funniest part about it is it's

883
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 2: taking on a total life of its own, right.

884
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: Have you seen any of these viral videos?

885
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, that's crazy.

886
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: Okay, what's been your favorite one that you've seen?

887
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 3: Man, there's been a lot of falling into bushes, but

888
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: they're like start off like all the girls who like

889
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 3: guess got ready and they're all done up, and then

890
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 3: they're like, here's all messed up, and they're all like wasted.

891
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 3: I mean one I saw one it was like the

892
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: dog was in the cage and then all of a sudden,

893
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 3: the dog's in front of the camera and the person

894
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 3: was in the cage like the dog kennel.

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Speaker 1: What was your original interpretation of the song, Well.

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Speaker 3: Mister Saturday Night is a facade. I don't I guess

897
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 3: that's the right word. It's like he's he's living the life,

898
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 3: but he's not living the life, you know. At the

899
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: same time, he's a big like I'm having the best

900
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: I am mister Saturday Night. But they don't know how

901
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 3: much I missed her Saturday Night. And I thought that

902
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 3: was such a clever hook. And it was always a

903
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 3: big song, was always big live song. We did a

904
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 3: music video for it. I love to like swing to.

905
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 3: It's got the pirate call me missed Saturday It's got

906
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 3: that kind of like yeah hard or heard and and

907
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: it had the energy and I love that. You know,

908
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: your past work, your albums. The fans are listening. I say,

909
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 3: I was telling you, they go back, they listen. And

910
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: whoever starts these trends is like it starts trending. And

911
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 3: it's great for artists that you can just be plowing

912
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: away writing new albums and have a brand new album

913
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 3: and then like nay, mister Saturday Night, it's popping off,

914
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 3: heartache medications, popping off. She ain't in it's popping off.

915
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: It's like, it's great to see because most of the

916
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 3: is a younger audience, and first and foremost and the

917
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: only thing that matters, truly matters as they're enjoying the music,

918
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 3: because that video or whatever they do, it will not

919
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 3: be as good if it didn't have mister Saturday Night

920
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: or that whatever songs trending they want to use.

921
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 4: Like even the jet see Holiday for fifty pounds?

922
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: How many time you seen this? Stupid?

923
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: But it's like, have you done a video today?

924
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: Oh? But the videos wouldn't be good if you haven't

925
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 3: had that. Well, nothing beats a jet to holiday. Like

926
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: it's like, uh, you know exactly what you're gonna see.

927
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Speaker 3: And that's the point of like just those little that's

928
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 3: what makes this special. It's like and just to have

929
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 3: songs that mean something like that, that's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: It's been so fun hanging out with you.

931
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Speaker 3: It's been fun. You guys are fun.

932
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Speaker 2: One thing, guys, the holidays are almost coming up. This morning,

933
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: I listen to John's Christmas album. It's incredible, So I

934
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: recommend it going in I have to say it. I

935
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: recommend it going into the holiday season. If you love John,

936
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: you love John's voice, turn on his Christmas album. It's incredible.

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00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: You've got a lot of the classics on there too.

938
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: But what do you have coming up that you want

939
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 2: to shout out?

940
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: Oh, you know, we got the Big twelve halftime show

941
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: at AT and T Stadium. Then that's gonna be a

942
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: championship for college football football. Uh, you know, I love football,

943
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: and so you'll get to see us there and come

944
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: come hit the Honky Talk Hollywood Tour. We do have

945
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: a Christmas tour that's gonna be in Florida this year.

946
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 3: That's gonna be fun, just a little end of the year.

947
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 3: And then like the Christmas show, we have a big band,

948
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: we have the Horns. We played the Christmas album. We

949
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 3: also play some of our big hits with the big band,

950
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 3: and it's like we'll play a couple of covers, so

951
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 3: you kind of get this Christmas party vibe where it's

952
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: not all like Christmas songs, but we mix it in

953
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 3: and it's a lot of fun. That's kind of our

954
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 3: end of the year like celebration. So and just keep

955
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 3: on listening to music, keep on pick another song and

956
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 3: make a tread. I don't care, you know, have fun

957
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 3: with my music. That's that's why we make music. And

958
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 3: you asked do you listen to music? Yes, I listen

959
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: to music because if I don't want to listen to

960
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: my music, somebody else won't want to listen to my music.

961
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: That's why I think about it.

962
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. You gotta be a fan. Yeah, Well,

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00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: thank you so much. This was amazing.

964
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Speaker 2: That is it for today's episode with John Party. Thank

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Speaker 2: you guys so much for tuning in. If you enjoyed

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Speaker 2: this one, it would mean so much to me. If

967
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 2: you followed, rated, and reviewed post friend high, it helps

968
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 2: us keep growing this amazing community, and it helps us

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Speaker 2: continue bringing you incredible guests.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you guys next week. Bye,