Speaker 1: Of the law and order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable.
Speaker 1: We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the
Speaker 1: vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. These are our stories.
Speaker 1: Dune Dune. Hello, Welcome to that Smessed Up an SVU podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Lisa and my name is Kara, and
Speaker 1: we're your hosts. Every week, guys, we talk about an
Speaker 1: episode of SVU, We recap, we dive into the true
Speaker 1: crime it was based on, and we talked to a
Speaker 1: celeb guest, and first we do a little chit chat
Speaker 1: and just up top, I just want to remind you guys.
Speaker 1: In June, we're back out on the road. We're doing
Speaker 1: San Francisco on June eighth, We're doing Tempe Arizona on
Speaker 1: June fifteenth, Denver on June twenty fifth, and La on
Speaker 1: June twenty ninth. So come out, yeah, please, so humiliate
Speaker 1: us in our town where we live, because that wouldn't
Speaker 1: that would not be positive. Come on down. Yes. So
Speaker 1: I'll be doing stand up in Phoenix June sixteenth, seven
Speaker 1: or those are the dates, right, you said the fifteenth
Speaker 1: we're doing stand up. Yeah, So sixteenth and seventeenth, and
Speaker 1: then June twenty sixth in Denver. I'm doing stand up
Speaker 1: so more shows and for tickets to our live shows,
Speaker 1: it's that's messed up live dot Com. You can just
Speaker 1: head there and it has links to all the different
Speaker 1: venues and stuff. And yeah, La is one of our
Speaker 1: biggest markets, and we got to get you guys out
Speaker 1: to our live show. Come on, let's go, come see us.
Speaker 1: We went to drag Con. That was fun, Yes, so fun.
Speaker 1: I posted some photos.
Speaker 2: The only reason I didn't post the teletubby photo is
Speaker 2: because it's too wide. It wouldn't like match with the
Speaker 2: rest of the photos. You know how Instagram does that.
Speaker 2: So I'm tomorrow as a throwback. I'm excited. I love
Speaker 2: that teletubby picture.
Speaker 1: I just well, it was so weird. So I saw
Speaker 1: comic that night and I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: We went to drag Con. It was so fun, and
Speaker 1: I was like telling everything I saw and then I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, and the Teletubbies were there, and he goes,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize you were into kink and I go,
Speaker 1: there was nothing kinky about it, and he's like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, the Teletubbies drat and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're an idiot, Like I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, it's like you're like a furry because the Teletubbies
Speaker 2: were there.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm like, is the right wing
Speaker 1: propaganda working? Like did he think? I was just like, no,
Speaker 1: the Tinky Winky's gay and there's a kid's area. I
Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'll tell you who is getting radicalized my
Speaker 2: children by DragCon because now they're watching Teletubbies every night
Speaker 2: and I'd never seen it before.
Speaker 1: Oscar is obsessed. He asked for it by name, and
Speaker 1: he was mesmerized. We saw him fall in love. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was just gonna stop looking at him saying it.
Speaker 1: He kept going want to see Teletubbies.
Speaker 2: And then we went back to go see if they
Speaker 2: were like still there after we left, because we were first,
Speaker 2: we got to get one of the first pictures with them,
Speaker 2: because they saw I had these two wild children who
Speaker 2: were trying to escape at every moment, and they let
Speaker 2: us take the photo. And then we walked away and
Speaker 2: went to go do other shit, and he kept asking
Speaker 2: to go back.
Speaker 1: But this Teletubby show is weird as hell. I never
Speaker 1: really watched it.
Speaker 2: I mean it kind of came of age when I
Speaker 2: was like a young person without kids, and I guess.
Speaker 1: I was babies.
Speaker 2: It's four babes, yes, but it's like there's a creepy
Speaker 2: baby face in the sun that just looks down and smiles.
Speaker 2: There's a whole thing where the Teletubbies have a screen
Speaker 2: on their tummy or whatever, and that you watch a
Speaker 2: video and then the Teletubbies go again again, and then
Speaker 2: you just watch the same video over. That's literally in
Speaker 2: every show, you watch the same video two times through.
Speaker 1: You're so crazy. I mean, I think you're communicating to
Speaker 1: everyone listening today, I'm familiar with the teletubby Oh you
Speaker 1: know it's a two time Yeah. I watched the Telestubbies.
Speaker 1: I was too old for it, but I liked how cute.
Speaker 1: I like their cuteness. I don't think it was a
Speaker 1: good show. But I watched Arthur on PBS, and I
Speaker 1: feel like maybe I crossed paths or something in that way. Sure,
Speaker 1: because with Arthur.
Speaker 2: Head, I just can't believe that they thought that parents
Speaker 2: wouldn't go crazy having to watch the same fucking four
Speaker 2: minute video twice in a row, like it was.
Speaker 1: It's not for you.
Speaker 2: I know it's not for me, but I'm sitting there
Speaker 2: and I have to watch it. So but you know
Speaker 2: who were you know who's worse? Blippy. I finally saw
Speaker 2: Blippy and it is bad. I don't watch that, but
Speaker 2: kids love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I sat down with our friend's kid and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to watch this, and he goes, well,
Speaker 1: we're watching Blippy and I was like, well, then I'm leaving.
Speaker 1: What what does Blippy do? There's nothing, It's just like real,
Speaker 1: like like I don't know. I was because I feel
Speaker 1: like most kid programming could sit and be like all right,
Speaker 1: but I was like this. I was like, I'm out
Speaker 1: of here, Like I couldn't even sit for a minute
Speaker 1: and watch Blippy. And the parents were like, I know,
Speaker 1: it's our last resort. We hate Blippy too. Wow, my
Speaker 1: friend Marty shows her kids Blippy. That's the only time
Speaker 1: I've ever seen like a second of it. But I
Speaker 1: didn't really pay attention. I fully turned my brother and
Speaker 1: sister and.
Speaker 2: My brother in law onto Blue when we were there
Speaker 2: visiting with Rosie, and they're like, Bluey's so good.
Speaker 1: People do love Blue? Do you want to update people
Speaker 1: on that? Engagement van story you had an update.
Speaker 2: Yes, this sounds bad, but are we positive that that
Speaker 2: story is real? Because it's just on Reddit and it
Speaker 2: sounds really weird that this girl is like I don't know.
Speaker 2: The update is that the girl is engaged to the guy. Now,
Speaker 2: if you're if you're confused what we're talking out. We're
Speaker 2: talking about how like last week or the week before,
Speaker 2: we talked about a girl whose fiance wanted to propose
Speaker 2: to her and had his friends kidnap her, or his
Speaker 2: friends took it upon themselves to kidnap her and scared
Speaker 2: the shit out of her, like literally, she pissed her pants,
Speaker 2: and we just thought that was really fucked up. So
Speaker 2: then I was driving somewhere and was just like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm going to look up and see.
Speaker 1: Where that Reddit thread went.
Speaker 2: And she posted an update that was like, I'm engaged
Speaker 2: after a couple of weeks, Like he took me for
Speaker 2: like a proper engagement and I really realized that, like
Speaker 2: he is really loves me and cares for me and
Speaker 2: wants to protect me, and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: So she felt good with the boyfriend.
Speaker 2: She goes, I'm thinking I'm not going to press charges,
Speaker 2: and then all these people wrote comments and were like,
Speaker 2: press charges, bitch, and she was like, Okay, update, I
Speaker 2: think I might press charges now after reading all your comments.
Speaker 2: The only thing that made my kind of spidey sense
Speaker 2: tingle was that this person created an account to tell
Speaker 2: this story and they were like, there's too many identifying
Speaker 2: parts about me on my old account.
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. It just feels like, yeah, because
Speaker 1: I saw it on BuzzFeed, And while you've been talking,
Speaker 1: I've been in the search category of BuzzFeed looking up
Speaker 1: kidnapping engagement van. Nothing is showing up. Yeah, so maybe
Speaker 1: they took it down and it wasn't real. I mean,
Speaker 1: I understand why BuzzFeed posted it, because it's just like
Speaker 1: a buzzy story about how something get Reddit, but feed journalism.
Speaker 1: BuzzFeed is always posting Reddit stuff and then the comments
Speaker 1: are always like this is just Reddit? What's And I'm like,
Speaker 1: BuzzFeed isn't real, It's for money, Like do you guys
Speaker 1: come here for real stuff? I mean, I think they
Speaker 1: have great long form shit and fun stuff, but like, well,
Speaker 1: isn't to educate.
Speaker 2: And well, is there a difference between BuzzFeed and BuzzFeed
Speaker 2: News because I feel like, well, I mean, it's all
Speaker 2: shutting down now anyway, I feel like but BuzzFeed news
Speaker 2: has like legit reporting. I just think this goes under
Speaker 2: like fun viral stuff, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and most like most of Retta and my the assholes.
Speaker 1: I just I wish it's not real. Like anything I read,
Speaker 1: I'm like, this would be great if it wasn't real.
Speaker 2: But what's crazy is when I was googling it to
Speaker 2: find the original BuzzFeed, I saw another article about a
Speaker 2: guy who did that to his girlfriend in Lebanon. They
Speaker 2: were in Lebanon and he got her kidnapped to ask
Speaker 2: her to marry him. And then a man did it
Speaker 2: in Australia too. There's many, it sounds like there's many Australia,
Speaker 2: I mean many kidnapping engagements and those need to stop.
Speaker 1: It's just it's one of the This is like a
Speaker 1: smaller example. I don't know if I've talked about it,
Speaker 1: but there's been multiple and I can only think of
Speaker 1: two at the moment where men like exposed female commedity
Speaker 1: like did something where then the female comedians got harassed
Speaker 1: online death threats. They needed full security, they had to move,
Speaker 1: they got docs lost jobs, like crazy shit happens, and
Speaker 1: then afterwards, the men's excuse is always, well, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that would happen. And it's like, do women not
Speaker 1: constantly tell you the internet is a healthscape? And same
Speaker 1: with kidnapping. It's like all you ever hear is women
Speaker 1: be like, I'm scared to get kidnapped, I'm scared to
Speaker 1: get assault. I'm scared. And then it's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: didn't know it would be that big of a deal.
Speaker 1: I thought it would be funny. And it's like they
Speaker 1: just don't listen at all, Like it's so crazy to
Speaker 1: think a kidnapping is an LOL, And I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: keep going to the movie Jawbreaker, but it did teach
Speaker 1: us a great lesson about kidnapping. Don't do it even
Speaker 1: for fun. It could go wrong.
Speaker 2: Like you know, we go back to Jawbreaker for so
Speaker 2: many things. We have to go back to the texts
Speaker 2: that raised us.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the text, so I got a message from
Speaker 1: someone that does listen to our pod. And if we
Speaker 1: remember the story, when I performed in Detroit, there was
Speaker 1: a meadow woman who was like people keep saying I
Speaker 1: look like some character named Misty form Yellow jackets, and
Speaker 1: then I cackled because I was like, you do. Girl.
Speaker 1: So she messaged me and she's a social worker and
Speaker 1: she's like a good person and we can touch on Instagram,
Speaker 1: and she just said that I am dead on about
Speaker 1: the criminal justice and social work division of people. She says,
Speaker 1: you know, when she was at Juvenile Corps and she said, like,
Speaker 1: the approaches of criminal justice and social worker like probation
Speaker 1: officers were so different and the outcomes were so stark,
Speaker 1: and the criminal justice probation officers kids were miserable and
Speaker 1: always had to go back to court, and not the
Speaker 1: social work ones. Huh. And I said, yeah, I believe
Speaker 1: that because I feel like social workers are like more sociology.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I wonder why you're so damaged and
Speaker 1: doing crimes. And I feel like criminal justice people are like,
Speaker 1: you're bad, your fifteen year solo car, You're bad. And
Speaker 1: I go, I think that's it, and she goes, exactly,
Speaker 1: I agree with that.
Speaker 2: So just the thing that I my, gosh, we're already
Speaker 2: at the flag, Casey, this is crazy, we're at the flag.
Speaker 1: I do have a couple other things, but I just
Speaker 1: I had to tell everyone I was right and obviously
Speaker 1: there's like different stuff. But she said, like one time
Speaker 1: a fourteen year old died by suicide and the criminal
Speaker 1: justice pos and interns were making jokes about him the
Speaker 1: whole time, and then the social workers were upset and
Speaker 1: the criminal justice people called them the Feelings Brigade. And
Speaker 1: of course she's a normal person, so she goes, social
Speaker 1: workers aren't perfect, but I think they are now there's
Speaker 1: looney tunes everywhere. I watched the show Swarm. I loved it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I loved it. I would recommend it to everybody. Swarm.
Speaker 1: It's about a Beyonce's style, beehive fan obsessed, a fan
Speaker 1: turned serial killer, and in the genre. I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's in the genre. Okay, So I met somebody he's
Speaker 1: a comic at a show. We're talking us to you
Speaker 1: and he goes, oh, I took care of Marishka's son
Speaker 1: on set, and I go, oh, my god, baby Noah
Speaker 1: or bisexual Noah? Which Noah did you work? And he goes,
Speaker 1: baby Noah. Okay. I go, okay, great, and then he's like,
Speaker 1: yeah and I met Maloney. I go, there's no way
Speaker 1: Noah didn't exist till season fifteen. You do not meet Maloney, goes,
Speaker 1: no I did. He was bought. He looked like this,
Speaker 1: and I go, listen, Noah was season fifteen. I don't
Speaker 1: know what to tell you. Maloney was not involved. Maybe
Speaker 1: he was visiting the child on set, but like, there's
Speaker 1: no fucking way. And then we figured out he took
Speaker 1: care of Murshka's real biological flow and he goes, I
Speaker 1: thought I was going crazy. I go, don't worry, bro,
Speaker 1: We're good. I'm so funny that like talking about her
Speaker 1: real son that you'd be like, oh, is it bisexual
Speaker 1: her son or baby her son? And his name's August.
Speaker 1: I love that. So he took care of baby August
Speaker 1: for a week on the set of SVU, and he
Speaker 1: said that Mrsha is amazing, like we hear from lots
Speaker 1: of people. I love that she had a little manny.
Speaker 1: That's so fun. Okay, the other this isn't even that interesting.
Speaker 1: I saw this on The Great Intro, but I saw
Speaker 1: this on my Instagram. And James Vanderbeek showed his children
Speaker 1: his old tape of hosting SNL because they loved Wendes
Speaker 1: Jenna or Taga did ESSNW. So He's like, they were
Speaker 1: so into it. I decided, like I'll show them the
Speaker 1: coolest I've ever been. And the kids were like, you're embarrassing.
Speaker 1: You look like an idiot. This is just so stupid.
Speaker 1: You're so stupid, you dork, and they just like hate it.
Speaker 1: The kids hate it. It's like very fun.
Speaker 2: Vanderbeek, come talk about your rejection on our podcast. I know,
Speaker 2: we love to be a shoulder for you to cry on.
Speaker 2: If you have a connection to James Vanderbek, tell him
Speaker 2: we're here for him.
Speaker 1: I know James. But yeah, so those are the only
Speaker 1: updates I really have in the Clubhouse. Amazing in the Clubhouse.
Speaker 2: I love your running your own Watch what Happens, Watch
Speaker 2: what Happens, Lisa.
Speaker 1: I've been hating Watch What Happens Live this week because
Speaker 1: it's not Bravo people. It's like celebrities, And I guess
Speaker 1: it's fine, but like, I just like more Bravo action
Speaker 1: and I think more people maybe like celebrities, like I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think it also gives the show kind
Speaker 2: of like cred as like a real late night show,
Speaker 2: and they have like Meryl Streep or Oprah come on,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had the book Club women on this week.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I did see book Club. I did see
Speaker 1: book Club and it was.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sitting next to my friend Elliott, and
Speaker 2: he's like the only person I ever want to see
Speaker 2: these movies with because the whole time we just look
Speaker 2: at each other and go, what what? Like the writing
Speaker 2: makes no sense, Like the plot is crazy. Like the
Speaker 2: movie's bad, but I have an amazing time going to
Speaker 2: see it, you know what I mean. It's like I
Speaker 2: don't even know about Guilty Pleasure. It's just like a
Speaker 2: lot of shit doesn't make sense, but we've got these
Speaker 2: women in their own cinematic universe. They're part of a
Speaker 2: franchise now and they're going for it.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of wait, what did you just out? Things
Speaker 1: that are enjoyable and make no sense? There's an Instagram
Speaker 1: account I found. I'm sure it's a TikTok first, but
Speaker 1: this dude is just like talking about episodes of Seventh
Speaker 1: Heaven and how they don't make sense and how crazy
Speaker 1: they are, and it is really fun because they are.
Speaker 1: I forgot about the storylines, Like they just bring home
Speaker 1: a homeless girl and they fight over who can keep it,
Speaker 1: like or like like the things that are it's just like,
Speaker 1: it's great. I wish I remembered it. Whatever is everything
Speaker 1: I have to share from the internet. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know what to tell you. I'm not leaving that.
Speaker 2: Y I love it all right, Well we have a Honestly,
Speaker 2: this is an episode we have been dying to do.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I forgot get it the episode. This
Speaker 1: is the episode, So don't go anywhere I would have pumped.
Speaker 1: Oh well, speaking of I have a preface story. Then
Speaker 1: if I forgot that, it's this episode. We're obsessed with
Speaker 1: this episode. We hope you have so much fun. It
Speaker 1: was really a dream come true doing it. I had
Speaker 1: a comedian bring me up this week and then he
Speaker 1: kissed my forehead. Uh uh uh uh uh uh No,
Speaker 1: this is the second time this has occurred, and I
Speaker 1: am going to be saying something so I have an update.
Speaker 1: Really creepy, it's psychotic, and he's lucky I didn't tell
Speaker 1: the heads of the people of the club. So I'm
Speaker 1: just going to talk to him and be like, that's
Speaker 1: an insane thing. I don't know why you would do
Speaker 1: that at my job. My friends don't do that, my
Speaker 1: parents don't do that. That's not you. What and if
Speaker 1: you listen to this podcast.
Speaker 2: You know, Lisa doesn't even like it when men kiss
Speaker 2: Olivia on the forehead that she's had sex with, so
Speaker 2: she certainly doesn't want random comedians doing it to her.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know famously about I'm typing it in
Speaker 1: the chat. I'm typing it in the chat, so you
Speaker 1: can know how annoying this because I haven't. I'm probably
Speaker 1: going to throw up for you are going to throw
Speaker 1: up when you sent I knew who it was this
Speaker 1: before you sent it. I knew who it was. I
Speaker 1: knew it was like the second you said it, I.
Speaker 2: Was like, oh, this is who it is, because that's
Speaker 2: like what you've told me about this person. That is
Speaker 2: this person's vibe, Like they think that is something they
Speaker 2: can do.
Speaker 1: And it's like, I'm at work trying to like win
Speaker 1: over a crowd and be impressive, and you just well
Speaker 1: I made a joke right away. I go, did it
Speaker 1: look like my father just kiss me? Yeah?
Speaker 2: You just infantilized me, like in front of a whole
Speaker 2: fucking audience.
Speaker 1: That's not okay.
Speaker 2: You know, famously, a comedy booker has kissed me on
Speaker 2: the hand twice when meeting me, and I like that's
Speaker 2: I think that what happened to you is way worse.
Speaker 1: I just wonder how he's gonna react, because I bet
Speaker 1: he'll get defensive, or maybe he'll just be like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: or oh it was just and I go, I don't
Speaker 1: care what it is. I don't want your saliva on
Speaker 1: my forehead. You fucking psycho. What a crazy thing to do.
Speaker 1: But also this person is someone that complains of like
Speaker 1: I don't knows me too gone too far? And it's like,
Speaker 1: clearly not if you have absolutely think you can kiss
Speaker 1: around at work, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like if the men are actually scared of me too,
Speaker 1: and oh no, the new climate, why are you kissing
Speaker 1: me on my forehead in front of hundreds of people?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to laugh. It is so crazy and you're
Speaker 2: clearly not worried, and none of this has worked. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but has me too gone too far? I mean, give
Speaker 2: me a break.
Speaker 1: I'm it's like so on edge. I want to DM
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna do it in person so there's no
Speaker 1: confusion of tone. But if you're gonna be like do
Speaker 1: not hug me, do not kiss me, shake my hand,
Speaker 1: that is insane of you.
Speaker 2: I go to shake most hands, most comics hands. But
Speaker 2: if they are a good friend, I'll hug when they're
Speaker 2: coming on stage.
Speaker 1: I get they're a good pal, but we know if
Speaker 1: we're good friends are now yeah, yeah, you can feel
Speaker 1: the hug. Oh my god, so crazy. I can't believe
Speaker 1: that happened.
Speaker 2: Anyway, perfect segue into today's episode about the comedy world
Speaker 2: a little bit, Guys, don't go anywhere.
Speaker 1: We have been waiting for this episode, which seems like
Speaker 1: our whole lives. Yes, I would say. It's called Comic Perversion,
Speaker 1: Season fifteen, Episode fifteen. It came out February twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: and we're thrilled. We're thrilled. So we open up on
Speaker 1: a label liss water bottle on a stool and a
Speaker 1: man doing stand up comedy with a big stage light
Speaker 1: on his face. And it's Jonathan Silverman and from weekend
Speaker 1: at Bernie's and he's performing at TSU. Now, Kara, do
Speaker 1: you want to reveal your connection to this episode or
Speaker 1: do you want to save it for later? Wait? What
Speaker 1: is my connection to this episode? Stick or treat?
Speaker 2: Oh yes, no, let me let's go on a little further.
Speaker 2: Let's go on away. Yeah, so we're teasing. Okay, stay tuned, bitches.
Speaker 1: So the crowdle starts chanting for Tsu tsu, and it's
Speaker 1: just really weird, just because we know the ins and
Speaker 1: outs of like the business of comedy. It's funny that
Speaker 1: it's a college event, but they are at a comedy
Speaker 1: club called the Comic Strip and here I am past.
Speaker 1: I do still get the avail's emails for the Comics Shop,
Speaker 1: so it's not defunct. It's still around. Yeah, Purp is
Speaker 1: still banging.
Speaker 2: I mean before I had kids and I would go
Speaker 2: back to New York from LA I would do like
Speaker 2: a spot or two there. I used to do spots
Speaker 2: there with like Colin Jost and like random people like yeah,
Speaker 2: one of the one of the New York clubs.
Speaker 1: I was passed at. Baby. I only did one show
Speaker 1: there one time. I don't know much about it, but
Speaker 1: there is a brick wall on the stage, so it
Speaker 1: is legit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: They us change the orientation of it. I think now
Speaker 2: like it's like totally changed.
Speaker 1: But yes, but college events are usually on college campuses,
Speaker 1: not at comedy clubs. But know, it doesn't matter. This
Speaker 1: is so fun. Now to the side of the stage,
Speaker 1: there's a framed sign that says hot Fries, and on
Speaker 1: the other side of the stage is a dry erase
Speaker 1: board and it just says Tompkins Square University, So a
Speaker 1: new college, because I don't think we've met any other
Speaker 1: people from Tompkins Squat Square is about seventy blocks from
Speaker 1: where this club is located. But you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you only know that, I guess if you know New York.
Speaker 1: And then there's just like a piece of paper that
Speaker 1: looks like word art posters stuck to the dry erase
Speaker 1: board and it says Josh Galloway. And I just love
Speaker 1: that there are shining a light on the indignities of
Speaker 1: stand up comedy. You know, he did sell out. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he's making tens of thousands of dollars for this gig,
Speaker 1: but yeah, they are selling French fries and it just
Speaker 1: is a computer paper with his name on it. Like,
Speaker 1: stand up comedy really really humbles you day in and
Speaker 1: day out, and it's pretty fantastical.
Speaker 2: Yes, I would also like to take this opportunity to
Speaker 2: share that when I was a comic in New York,
Speaker 2: and I think maybe still there's a show called Shticker Tree.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is the this is our this is
Speaker 1: this he said his name. Now his name is we
Speaker 1: know his name is Josh Galloway. Okay, perfect, So Sticker Tree.
Speaker 2: It was a show where comics around Halloween would dress
Speaker 2: up as other comics and do like a two minute
Speaker 2: set as them. And you could go on as Gallagher Ellen.
Speaker 2: I was Ellen Degenerous one year, like I was Whitney
Speaker 2: Cummings one year. You could even go like on as
Speaker 2: Lee's a trigger or someone that you know like and
Speaker 2: do like roast them a little bit whatever. And I
Speaker 2: went on one year as fictional rape comic Josh Galloway
Speaker 2: from SVU, And I'll tell you the ones who got
Speaker 2: it got it, and the ones who didn't were very confused.
Speaker 2: But I like did I think I was kind of
Speaker 2: poking fun At the time. There was all this controversy
Speaker 2: about rape jokes and stuff like that, and so I
Speaker 2: was like poking fun at all of that. And I
Speaker 2: don't remember my set very well because it was twenty
Speaker 2: fourteen or when did this episode came out? Yeah, February,
Speaker 2: so so eight months later I'm playing him after this
Speaker 2: episode comes out, hoping people get the reference.
Speaker 1: And you drew a beard. So was it like eight
Speaker 1: people laughing and then a confused sea of like, what's
Speaker 1: going on? Audit laughed?
Speaker 2: A lot of people laughed, like a lot of you
Speaker 2: people were like even like I was like, you guys
Speaker 2: probably saw me on that episode of SVU where a
Speaker 2: comedian gets so even if they didn't see the episode,
Speaker 2: they knew what I was doing, and so it was gosh.
Speaker 2: I wish I could like look in my email and
Speaker 2: see if I like wrote out my set and emailed
Speaker 2: it to myself or something, because it would be.
Speaker 1: Wild to see you're the queen of a receipts. I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's somewhere. Yes, I'm sure it's somewhere. I wish
Speaker 1: I was there to see you performost Josh Gallow at
Speaker 1: the Rape comic. But whatever, So TSU, we're back. It's
Speaker 1: a party school. We could tell people are taping him
Speaker 1: with their cell phones, which is such a no no
Speaker 1: as well, like you'd get fucking kicked out. That's like
Speaker 1: an off with your head type of moment. If you're
Speaker 1: fucking taping someone's set, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1: But he calls TSU trashed slut University or totally swallow
Speaker 1: you and the boys cheer, and then he starts making
Speaker 1: fun of the rape trolley. It's like, just let the
Speaker 1: trolley take the women home, Like you have an issue
Speaker 1: with the rape trolley. It's like, it is just so
Speaker 1: funny to me. But he doesn't like that the rape
Speaker 1: trolley's only for women. What about the men? And he
Speaker 1: goes a man rape trolley. Actually, well, the joke is
Speaker 1: date rape for men is actually called getting lucky, and
Speaker 1: for joke structure, it's there. He's really killing it, you know.
Speaker 1: He then tests a really really tough premise about the
Speaker 1: upsides of rape, and then a gaggle of gals in
Speaker 1: the front row wearing matching t shirts stand up and
Speaker 1: they yell, rape is no joke. And one of the
Speaker 1: girls is Skylar Day. I remember her from Parenthood, but
Speaker 1: she was also in a different SVU playing the same
Speaker 1: character Renee Clark in the episode Girl Dishonored in season fourteen.
Speaker 1: You know, another college rape situation. Okay, Bambam. So there's booing.
Speaker 1: Everyone's booing, and it's like, are we booing the anti
Speaker 1: rape group or are we booing? Josh, it's the group. So
Speaker 1: she goes, rape is not funny and then another girl
Speaker 1: gets up and she's a little sauced and she yells,
Speaker 1: you're not funny. Go home. I'm in love with all
Speaker 1: of this, the commotion that's happening. And Josh Gallaway's like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: let's not heckle and boo our feminist sisters. If anyone
Speaker 1: knows about comedy, it's a feminist. And you know that's
Speaker 1: again another great structured little bit. She starts quoting rape
Speaker 1: stats and he brings her on stage, and we get
Speaker 1: her name and she's part of a group called Star
Speaker 1: Students Together Against Rape anyways, So he then says, renee
Speaker 1: is rape. Rape is not funny. Gang rape, on the
Speaker 1: other hand, is freaking hysterical. Again another great bit, Like
Speaker 1: because we get to see him do comedy throughout and
Speaker 1: it does decrease in terms of structure, but structurally he's
Speaker 1: really knocking these out. I would say art is good.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we think that jokes about gang
Speaker 2: rape are funny in this situation, and I you think
Speaker 2: the jokes are.
Speaker 1: Funny, no, but they're structurally sound yes. And I in
Speaker 1: this context with her on stage, and that's happening, and
Speaker 1: everything we know is gonna happen. It's fucked up. But
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if someone did this on stage, like,
Speaker 1: I can see it working. I can Yeah, if a
Speaker 1: comic one up and goes listen. I don't joke about rape,
Speaker 1: that's not funny, But you know what is funny gang rape?
Speaker 1: I can see. I can see that hitting, whether we
Speaker 1: personally would laugh or not at it. But when people
Speaker 1: are like, rape jokes are just not funny. I have
Speaker 1: I have two, and people laugh, but they're just on
Speaker 1: a different perspective where I make I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: feel the victim is the punchline. The rapists are the
Speaker 1: punchline to me. Yes, And I have a gang bang
Speaker 1: joke with different than or gang bang, Yeah, yes or not?
Speaker 1: I yeah, we'll see. Yeah, it's no longer on porn hubs,
Speaker 1: so we don't know how consensual it was. But yeah,
Speaker 1: But I am a believer that anything can be funny
Speaker 1: if you're funny. Yeah, And that's why I think funny. Yes,
Speaker 1: And I think that's why the comics that come plain
Speaker 1: about quote unquote PC culture being woke, people being serious whatever,
Speaker 1: they're just not funny enough and can't really admit it
Speaker 1: to themselves. Mm hmm. Even when something doesn't go right,
Speaker 1: you can blame a crowd, but at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it's you. It's your jokes, and you can
Speaker 1: make anyone laugh at anything. Yeah. V I mean is
Speaker 1: there's the best example. There's people that do like One
Speaker 1: Man shows about losing their children. I mean, there's like
Speaker 1: there's people can find humor in anything. You know, you
Speaker 1: just have to do it the right way. Yeah, not lazily,
Speaker 1: because I don't love domestic violence jokes. That's something that
Speaker 1: I usually am, like, I just don't laugh or like,
Speaker 1: and I'm not into it. Yeah. Nicole Amy Schreiber has
Speaker 1: a fantastic domestic violence joke and I laugh every time
Speaker 1: I hear it. So it's like, you know, but it's
Speaker 1: probably not making the victims the butt her joke. No,
Speaker 1: a little bit, but in a great way. But my
Speaker 1: thing I also always say with comics is like I
Speaker 1: think as an audience member and probably in different marginalized
Speaker 1: groups can feel this way. I bet feel this way.
Speaker 1: Where Like you can also tell people's intent, Like there
Speaker 1: are a lot of comics their intent is to piss
Speaker 1: people off. Yeah, and then when people are pissed off,
Speaker 1: they get to be a victim of like, oh, they're pissed,
Speaker 1: but or like, look what I get to say.
Speaker 2: I can say anything I want, Like it's is there
Speaker 2: a point or do you have a different kind of
Speaker 2: perspective on it?
Speaker 1: Like not really? No, Actually, Jesse Klein has a hilarious
Speaker 1: domestic violence joke as well that I just thought of exactly.
Speaker 1: And if the goal is to make people laugh, I
Speaker 1: think you can make everything funny and even the marginalized
Speaker 1: groups that can be at the butt of the joke laugh. Like,
Speaker 1: if the goal is like pure joy and laughter, I
Speaker 1: think audiences get it. The guys that I think about
Speaker 1: that really bother me is they purposely write material with
Speaker 1: the intent of controversy and to piss people off because
Speaker 1: they know deep down they're not funny enough or they
Speaker 1: don't believe in themselves enough. But when they complain about crowd,
Speaker 1: I'm like, but your intent isn't for people to enjoy themselves.
Speaker 1: Your intent is to get people mad because you think
Speaker 1: you're like a philosopher king y. Yeah, and so there's
Speaker 1: a lot too. I mean, this guy is a sick oh.
Speaker 1: So like I'm not defending Josh Gallows. We're not defending
Speaker 1: Josh Galloway. We're just dressing up as we're obviously going
Speaker 1: to talk about it. Yeah, well it would just be
Speaker 1: shocking not to talk about it. But I think you
Speaker 1: can make anything funny. I don't think anything. I like
Speaker 1: to look. I like to laugh at dark stuff sometimes too,
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't mean I condone it. I just can
Speaker 1: laugh at like a dark joke, you know. Anyway, So whatever,
Speaker 1: he talks about the rules of three in terms of
Speaker 1: the gang Ray. He keeps pushing it. She calls him sick.
Speaker 1: He says he's funny. Everyone claps for Renee. She walks
Speaker 1: away with her group. She is walking home. Uh oh,
Speaker 1: there are men from the show. They seem plastered as hell,
Speaker 1: and they're waiting for her in their little beanie caps
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh hey, Renee, you were great up there,
Speaker 1: and they start tossing her around. It's a really vicious scene.
Speaker 1: Like I hate watching this. It makes me really start
Speaker 1: and uncomfortable. She tries to get away and they have
Speaker 1: a grip and she starts trying to blow her rape
Speaker 1: whistle and they do. You think they're trying to make
Speaker 1: a point that rape whistles are stupid. Because they take
Speaker 1: the whistle away very quickly from her is the point,
Speaker 1: and she's not able to whistle. She's crying, they're trying
Speaker 1: to get away, she's asking them to stop. She finally
Speaker 1: kicks one of them in the dick. He falls over.
Speaker 1: She grabs her keys, whistles again, and then we hope
Speaker 1: she gets away. We don't really know what happens. Then
Speaker 1: we go back to the rape comics closer, he goes,
Speaker 1: good night kids, Okay, so that's that, and then he's
Speaker 1: signing autographs and he's looking right directly at the camera
Speaker 1: while he's high fiving people. It's really sick, honestly. But
Speaker 1: what we see is he's making eye contact with the
Speaker 1: drunk girl who heckled the Feminist rape club. And so
Speaker 1: she's drunk, she's horny for him. They're looking at each other,
Speaker 1: they're mutually checking each other out. And then it cuts
Speaker 1: to our beloved credits. So so now we're in the
Speaker 1: squad room, it's you know, the wooden comforting room, and
Speaker 1: Renee Clark is explaining they grabbed me. She managed to
Speaker 1: get her whistle back and that's what made them panic
Speaker 1: and run, and she's crying. She's really fucked over from
Speaker 1: what happened. Benson's like, good, you did what you had
Speaker 1: to do to get out of the situation. And Rollins
Speaker 1: asks if she knows the boys that did it, and
Speaker 1: she's like, yes, they live in my dorm. They must
Speaker 1: have followed her from the comedy show. And she mentions
Speaker 1: that Josh Galloway and Rollin's is like, oh, one of
Speaker 1: those rape joke comics, and I wonder what, like, no
Speaker 1: one's known as a rape joke comic. Right, Well, we'll
Speaker 1: get into it when I do the real thing, okay
Speaker 1: a little bit, And then she said that her friends
Speaker 1: and her were coming to send a message, but Josh
Speaker 1: brought her on stage and said it was funny if
Speaker 1: she was gang raped, and that's why those boys assaulted
Speaker 1: her because Josh gave them permission. And Benson's like, well,
Speaker 1: we'll see what kind of charge as we can bring
Speaker 1: against these boys. And then they go on to ask
Speaker 1: the girl like are you ready to go through this again?
Speaker 1: And she goes, I am, That's why I came straight
Speaker 1: to you. I didn't even call campus security, and she goes,
Speaker 1: you have to go after Josh Galloway. So we cut
Speaker 1: to one of the boys in interrogation with Amrrow and
Speaker 1: he's like, Josh did not ed us on or motivate
Speaker 1: us to do this. We were just messing around. It
Speaker 1: was a joke. She's gotten. She's got to lighten up.
Speaker 1: It's the sickens me. Yeah, like making it seem like
Speaker 1: there is a joke to fully scaring someone into thinking
Speaker 1: they're about to get a like the trauma is real
Speaker 1: that your body and how it reacts will not know
Speaker 1: it's a joke.
Speaker 2: And while we will have just talked about this on
Speaker 2: an intro, so we've covered this.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, pretending to rape someone's not a bit okay, guys, jesus,
Speaker 1: I don't think our audience needs that announcement. But it's
Speaker 1: so fucked. It cuts to the other a sweater made
Speaker 1: of striped temp and he's like, she needs to learn
Speaker 1: how to take a joke, and it's like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: I don't get the funny. I really don't get the funny.
Speaker 1: So the guy who's like, whatever, she needs to learn
Speaker 1: how to take a joke. And then the guy's like
Speaker 1: and I like Renee and Finn is like, you got
Speaker 1: a funny way of showing it, and they say they
Speaker 1: felt bad she was heckled on stage and they were
Speaker 1: just trying to have some fun with her number one fear.
Speaker 1: So Barbara spying in the window, Like, I have a
Speaker 1: friend who's her number one fear as frogs. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even throw a fake frog at her. Yeah, that's just like,
Speaker 1: why am I if you're scared of? I don't know
Speaker 1: why I have to push the limits of someone's fears.
Speaker 2: Well, one time, when I was in college, my friend
Speaker 2: was really afraid of pregnant women.
Speaker 1: She was really grossed out by pregnant wmen.
Speaker 2: She's since had three children, but at the time we
Speaker 2: were in our like you know, we were nineteen ors
Speaker 2: and I did put a pack triv pregnant woman on
Speaker 2: her pillow that I found in a magazine.
Speaker 1: And what happened? She was like, who did this?
Speaker 2: I mean she didn't get like scared. It wasn't like
Speaker 2: it was a real pregnant person. But you know, so
Speaker 2: if I'm with her, who is this?
Speaker 1: Have I met her? No? You haven't. Now she has
Speaker 1: three kids. Yeah, Like that's stopped your friends before a
Speaker 1: fucking zip zip zopin to our gigs. Okay, so hello
Speaker 1: to all of Kara's camp, childhood, high school, college study
Speaker 1: abroad friends thrilled you're here. Barbara is spying in the window,
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, these college idiots. Benson quickly responds
Speaker 1: they did assault Renee and they knew she was a
Speaker 1: survivor and an activist and they targeted her. And Barba's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll try to get a temporary restraining order, but she
Speaker 1: needs to change dorms and Benson does not like this.
Speaker 1: So they're walking and talking and you know, Benson and
Speaker 1: Rollins are on either side of him, just one step back.
Speaker 1: It's like a dance number. And Benson asks about the comic,
Speaker 1: and you know, he's a big deal. He's one of
Speaker 1: those snarky cable TV hosts. And he was on a
Speaker 1: list of People's Magazine's most eligible comedians.
Speaker 3: L O L.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's ever been a fucking article in
Speaker 2: People magazine.
Speaker 1: There's like two eligible comedians. No, that are men? That
Speaker 1: are men? There are a million women. Yeah, if it
Speaker 1: was old and the men are like, you know, they're
Speaker 1: not doing well in terms of emotional they're not good partners.
Speaker 1: Like I can't imagine the People list. It's like this
Speaker 1: guy showers twice a week. Ladies like, yeah, I would say,
Speaker 1: who would? I mean, Trevor Noah is the one that, like,
Speaker 1: if People Magazine did do an eligible bachelor comedian, he
Speaker 1: doesn't have a partner. I don't know. I think he's
Speaker 1: out there fucking I mean he was seen with dua
Speaker 1: lipa like who knows. But yeah, he's someone that is
Speaker 1: just subjectively like an attractive person on television who people like.
Speaker 1: But after Trevor Noah, I can't think of a second person.
Speaker 1: Michael Cha, I'm thinking Chay. People like Chay, Yeah, Chay. Oh.
Speaker 1: You know who is hot and who is an eligible bachelor?
Speaker 2: Brett Goldstein, Yes, there we go, Brett Goldstein. Yeah, hot
Speaker 2: as hell, nice guy on a hit TV show, a
Speaker 2: good stand up, very funny here for a long time.
Speaker 1: But I believe he's single now. Yeah. Yeah, So there
Speaker 1: they are out there.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying most so those two would definitely
Speaker 2: be in People Magazine's feature on the most eligible comedians.
Speaker 1: And then the other ones I'm thinking about that are cute,
Speaker 1: are cheating on their spouses, like I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're good people, yeah, but they of
Speaker 1: course there are great ones and hopefully throughout this episode
Speaker 1: we'll think of other ones. So Rollins brings up this
Speaker 1: eligible comedians. We came up with three, So that's pretty exciting.
Speaker 1: I mean Chris Rock I think is an eligible bachelor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean last already was dating Lake Bell. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exciting. So Barbara's confused, and so Barba's like, wait,
Speaker 1: so Josh Galloway also assaulted Renee and Benson goes, no,
Speaker 1: but he made jokes about how funny it was if
Speaker 1: he was gang raped, and he incited this incident, and
Speaker 1: Barbara treats them like idiots. He's like, you've heard a
Speaker 1: free speech right, And I'm on Barba's side era where
Speaker 1: it's like, what you can't charge a guy for bad
Speaker 1: joke telling? And Benson's like, well, what about hate speech?
Speaker 1: And they heard his set and they advocated a gang
Speaker 1: rape and they followed Renee out and it makes him
Speaker 1: an accessory and she says, if I tell a guy
Speaker 1: with a gun, I want my husband dead and cocks
Speaker 1: her head to the side like good point, right, And
Speaker 1: if you're wondering, Benson at this point has short chin length,
Speaker 1: bouncy Bob Benson era very season five s JP sex
Speaker 1: in the city, and Barbara says, you're doing a false
Speaker 1: equivalency and which I agree with with are but here
Speaker 1: and we need to prove his intent any other charges
Speaker 1: on the sky and Ronind's is like, no, but we'll
Speaker 1: start digging.
Speaker 2: Benson says he also didn't say go gang raper. Didn't
Speaker 2: he say what's funnier than a rape joke? A gang
Speaker 2: rape joke?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Like, he didn't say go get this girl? Right? Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Benson goes, or we could just go straight to him
Speaker 1: and fill him in and we'll tell him that the
Speaker 1: girl he humiliated was assaulted by two of his fans.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow and Benson do a walk and talk headed to
Speaker 1: Josh's you know, hotel room, and Amar was like, ugh,
Speaker 1: I hate this guy. So Tomorrow wildly hates this guy.
Speaker 1: He opens the door and Josh is in a white
Speaker 1: hotel robe and he's in a chipper mood. He's like,
Speaker 1: come in detectives, and Benson reminds him she's a sergeant
Speaker 1: and he condescendingly congratulates her on wearing the pants. Tomorrow
Speaker 1: doesn't like that he's in a robe and he's like,
Speaker 1: did the front tesk not tell you. We were on
Speaker 1: our way up, and this is unfortunately very me, Like
Speaker 1: I will order room service and when they knock, I
Speaker 1: am just I have to. I'm like just a minute,
Speaker 1: I'm throwing clothes on, like I didn't order the food. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm it's I'm really bad about this. I'm not wearing
Speaker 1: pants ring like so I sent you a surprise meal,
Speaker 1: or even when you're coming to pick me up or
Speaker 1: I know you're coming over, like I will still not
Speaker 1: put on clothes until the moment someone knocks. And it's
Speaker 1: kind of like when I FaceTime you when I have
Speaker 1: to pee and you're like, you could have done it
Speaker 1: a moment after, and I'm like, I couldn't. I couldn't.
Speaker 1: So unfortunately, I do see myself in this rapist. Okay,
Speaker 1: so unfortunately, but this is me. So anyways, he goes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they pulled me out of the shower. He then takes
Speaker 1: his robe off in front of the police and Marish
Speaker 1: goes like, whoa, the dude is naked. He changes into sweatpants.
Speaker 1: His body looks good, though, you know, good for you know,
Speaker 1: good for Jonathan Silverman. I'm sure he did some pushups,
Speaker 1: some prep and they paid off. So then while he's changing,
Speaker 1: he's like, you like the view, and Tomaro go, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not enjoying the view. And I get that this
Speaker 1: man is naked in front of him, but the Penthouse
Speaker 1: Hotel view is gorgeous. Also, what kind.
Speaker 2: Of cop, what kind of comic is doing a college
Speaker 2: gig getting this hotel room in New York City.
Speaker 1: I think, like, if you're famous, I think colleges like
Speaker 1: big schools. They I think the comics get fifty grand
Speaker 1: a show, hundred grand a show, Like if you're on SNL,
Speaker 1: I think you make at least twenty five thirty grand.
Speaker 1: But then I am.
Speaker 2: Performing at like a huge auditorium at their school, not
Speaker 2: at like the fucking two hundred capacity comic strip.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's wild.
Speaker 2: Although the school, You're right, it's not really about selling
Speaker 2: tickets for the school. The school just has money to
Speaker 2: do things for the kids, because I was on the
Speaker 2: committee for my school that decided what things the kids
Speaker 2: could pay for.
Speaker 1: But also I know of a comic who is just
Speaker 1: like he makes so much money everywhere, yeah, like being
Speaker 1: on the road, like he's gonna make a profit. But
Speaker 1: I heard that he has to sit at the best hotel,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. And if he the best restaurants, and
Speaker 1: if he loses money, it doesn't matter to him because
Speaker 1: he's so wealthy. Yeah, because I was just talking, Oh.
Speaker 2: That makes sense for this this that sounds like this
Speaker 2: kind of yes, because I was just talking to an
Speaker 2: agent who said that the business manager of this client
Speaker 2: called him and was like, why did he spend thirty
Speaker 2: five grand on the hotel this weekend?
Speaker 1: Thirty five grand on the hotel? Yeah, and including like
Speaker 1: probably room service and all that, and the agent he's
Speaker 1: never going to go away live in like the gravy train.
Speaker 1: It goes on forever. Wow, I know. But some of
Speaker 1: these people are just making so much money. I don't know. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: I know. So he offers to get just stripping down
Speaker 1: in front of the cops. It's like, this guy is
Speaker 1: so bold and arrogant. I'm obsessed with him. So not really.
Speaker 1: Then he offers to order room service, and the sliders
Speaker 1: are insane, and he finally puts on a shirt. He
Speaker 1: starts ass he's very casual, very manic energy, and he
Speaker 1: reminds me of the jazz guy from Sex in the City.
Speaker 1: In terms of chaos, in terms of just like me, Me, Me,
Speaker 1: me me. Benson gets down to business and brings up
Speaker 1: Greene Clark and he acts like he has no idea
Speaker 1: who this bitch is. He goes, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: do one hundred and fifty shows a year. You gotta
Speaker 1: be more specific, touts, and then she shows a photo
Speaker 1: and he pulled her up on stage and he like,
Speaker 1: legit is like, but I don't remember. I have no
Speaker 1: idea what you're saying. And he's just you know, chewing
Speaker 1: on a sandwich, lying do you think he really doesn't
Speaker 1: remember faces their names? Or he's lying to the cops like,
Speaker 1: I what do you think it is? I think he
Speaker 1: doesn't remember for real?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, because I don't think he has like
Speaker 2: any idea whither even there. And he's like, I don't remember,
Speaker 2: Like yeah, like I think this is the kind of
Speaker 2: guy that only sees women he wants to like fuck,
Speaker 2: And I don't think he was like attracted to this girl,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he does.
Speaker 2: He's like, ah, the redhead I had sex with in Missouri.
Speaker 2: I remember her, but like he doesn't remember like regular women,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Wow, So they explain what happened, and he's like, that's
Speaker 1: too bad, But what does this have to do with me?
Speaker 1: And they're like, did you not say it would be
Speaker 1: funny to gang raper? And he's like, I'm not taking
Speaker 1: any of this seriously or cares at all. And it's like,
Speaker 1: even if it has nothing to do with you, you
Speaker 1: just found out someone like god assault it. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So he's straight up He's like, I'm a comedian, what
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Blame the artists? Chewing the whole time,
Speaker 1: and a Tomorrow's like, oh, you're an artist, and he
Speaker 1: gives up and goes, come on, I'm a performer, and
Speaker 1: Benson's like you're a witness. Can you just help us
Speaker 1: id the assailants? And he says, I don't see people.
Speaker 1: I just see lights in the dark. I don't know.
Speaker 1: And then Tomorrow has another burn and goes, wow, drunk
Speaker 1: college students tough crowd, and it is people wasted is
Speaker 1: not a great crowd. So Tomorrow is an idiot here.
Speaker 1: I don't I have to stop talking. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: read my notes. So he's like, okay, I get you're
Speaker 1: not a fan. Why don't you come to my show?
Speaker 1: I'll get you VIP tickets. I'm playing TSU again and
Speaker 1: he begs them to come to the show and see it.
Speaker 1: Benson size and walks away. So it's a ten PM show.
Speaker 1: We're back at the comic strip and it's a Wild
Speaker 1: Force theme. We have Benson, Cassidy, Finn and Rollins and
Speaker 1: their front row and center, which is the craziest thing
Speaker 1: of the episode for me. And this time there's a
Speaker 1: sign on the other side of the stage and it's
Speaker 1: for cold ice cream and there's a cute drawing, so
Speaker 1: it's getting ice cream in a comedy show. So we
Speaker 1: have cold ice cream and hot fries. Baby, it's like
Speaker 1: a baseball park. I don't understand these signs, I know,
Speaker 1: because the only thing I can imagine is like a
Speaker 1: brownie with ice cream like that. That's with you? But like,
Speaker 1: what a cone? What are we? What's happening? But Cassidy's
Speaker 1: a huge fan of this guy. And then he's like,
Speaker 1: let's be open minded. He used to be funny, and
Speaker 1: that's a Rollins because of course she's going to defend
Speaker 1: this guy. She goes, he's a smart comedian. He just
Speaker 1: never got attention until he started all this rape stick.
Speaker 1: And this is how I feel about twenty sixteen Trump
Speaker 1: at the election, the rise of white nationalism, like all
Speaker 1: of this. It's like, you know, no one cared about
Speaker 1: this smart, great guy until the rape stick. And that's
Speaker 1: how I feel about so many comedians where they leaned
Speaker 1: in and their audiences are just yeah, they hate woke,
Speaker 1: you know, Like I just think so many people have
Speaker 1: created and blown up and now are are so rich
Speaker 1: selling out to audiences of truly scum. Yeah. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: what did Hillary Clinton call it? The not powerables, the deplorables. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're like deplorables. Yeah, and they're funny people, but like
Speaker 1: they just didn't start making money until this divide of
Speaker 1: like woke and not woke. And you know they're doing good,
Speaker 1: but when the when the dust settles, you guys will
Speaker 1: be in the Nazi camp, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But like we got we all know this like comic
Speaker 2: who got like basically canceled because he was like abusing
Speaker 2: multiple girls who are in the comedy community as their boyfriend.
Speaker 2: And then he just was like okay and went totally
Speaker 2: right wing and now he's like well known in the
Speaker 2: right right wing circle. Like he just pivoted and was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: now I'm like a right wing lunatic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if all I was like to become a racist?
Speaker 1: Yeah because yeah, so whatever, So that's what happened. And
Speaker 1: everyone's our Sineo hall, like, what is this move? It's
Speaker 1: called the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, I don't know what you call it, like
Speaker 2: the elbow wrist roll, I don't know.
Speaker 1: To me, it's their Sineo forever. Yeah. The Genie does
Speaker 1: it in Aladdin as well. Yeah, but I don't that
Speaker 1: that might be too too specific. And he's cocky, he's
Speaker 1: got another bottle of water, and you know, this is
Speaker 1: a rare moment where I'm not a fan of Benson.
Speaker 1: So he makes a joke. He goes, wow, two nights
Speaker 1: at a college. This sounds like a commitment. I don't
Speaker 1: like that, and Benson whispers to Cassidy. At least the
Speaker 1: other guy was funny. And to me, it's like it
Speaker 1: was one opening joke. If someone in the front row
Speaker 1: had this much attitude, I would hate this person. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's not that bad of a joke. It's not
Speaker 1: even again swimming, it's not a rape joke. It's just like, guys,
Speaker 1: are we gonna committed relationship. Yeah, yeah, it's like cheesy, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I do a bit sometimes where if like someone's
Speaker 1: not clapping in the front row, I go, why didn't
Speaker 1: you clap, You're a bitch, and then people laugh and
Speaker 1: it's just like silly and they think it's silly. And
Speaker 1: one time a woman truly in the front responder was like, well,
Speaker 1: you didn't do anything to deserve it, and it's like, oh, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you just like clap when someone comes on stage, you
Speaker 1: dumb cunt, like you know what I mean. And then
Speaker 1: she said something else rude to me, and her energy
Speaker 1: sucked and I did call her a hunt. And then
Speaker 1: her friend came and they started having a loud This
Speaker 1: was like recent and they start having a loud conversation.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, now you're all talking, like what's up,
Speaker 1: and she goes, she's just filling me in because you
Speaker 1: called her a cunt, and I'm like, yeah, and you're
Speaker 1: both proving that your giant cunts and we all hate you,
Speaker 1: so you could have proven to me that you're great,
Speaker 1: but you keep talking. Their energy sucked and throughout the
Speaker 1: rest of the show energy not good. But the crowd
Speaker 1: really didn't like them, and then I made fun of
Speaker 1: them the whole night, and Benson is being these this
Speaker 1: type of person where it's like, but of course she
Speaker 1: doesn't have an open mind. She hates him. It's the
Speaker 1: threat comic, right. But them sitting in the front row
Speaker 1: is nuts.
Speaker 2: But I think he said I'll get you VIP tickets,
Speaker 2: So I think he sat them there. I just I
Speaker 2: just remembered that because I'm back when I first watched herself,
Speaker 2: I was like, why are they sitting there?
Speaker 1: This is so crazy? But I think that's he sat
Speaker 1: them there. I just would have started in on her
Speaker 1: for sure, Like, yeah, I came on stage and immediately
Speaker 1: after my first joke someone went well at least everyone
Speaker 1: else was funny. I would be like nice haircut, you know.
Speaker 1: I would immediately get involved. Yeah. To me, it's like
Speaker 1: the idea of your coming in and you're energy is
Speaker 1: why don't you prove you're funny to me? Versus Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm here for a good time. I want to laugh. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the energy. I didn't clap because you didn't
Speaker 1: deserve it yet, And it's like you just clap when
Speaker 1: people come on stage. You psycho okay, so anyways, and
Speaker 1: if you want to be bad, sit in the back.
Speaker 1: So anyways, and he does what you would do. He
Speaker 1: immediately tell you know, goes in on live and then
Speaker 1: he tells everyone she's a cop, and everyone booze.
Speaker 2: That's always the line that kills me, because he goes
Speaker 2: give it up for special victims everybody, and everybody's like, bib,
Speaker 2: like it's crazy, well because I get booing for cops acab.
Speaker 1: But then once he said special victims, yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: I was like, okay.
Speaker 2: You're helping women and children usually yeah, And he's like,
Speaker 2: you know, these cops think my jokes cause people to rape.
Speaker 1: And then he starts talking about you know what he
Speaker 1: said she said and how that's not real rape, and
Speaker 1: I think he's too angry here and he was funny
Speaker 1: or the first night he says consent is not for him,
Speaker 1: consent has gone too far. He's just like mad that
Speaker 1: consent is the thing. And then he's annoyed about consent.
Speaker 1: He uses bar receipts his evidence, like I bought her
Speaker 1: six drinks, that's my consent, and Benson heckels and goes, wow,
Speaker 1: that's funny. And then she gets booed. Then he calls
Speaker 1: her sarge and it's like, chill out, have fun. I'll
Speaker 1: get you a drink and I'll keep the receipt. And
Speaker 1: then he goes, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, and he says
Speaker 1: he's he actually fucked TSU's finest trash sluts last night.
Speaker 1: And to me again another aside, I'm so sorry, Casey,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to edit so much of this episode.
Speaker 1: But when I see college kids now, they look like
Speaker 1: such children. To me, it is actually weird that forty
Speaker 1: year olds are fucking college students. Yeah, they look like babies.
Speaker 1: It's weird, it's creepy. I don't care if it's above
Speaker 1: the law. It is uncomfortable. And you're a predator and
Speaker 1: you're a freak. I really hate it. Yeah, because you
Speaker 1: can tell her when people are like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: she looked eighteen, it's like, no, she didn't. We know
Speaker 1: what children like they look so yuh, even the eighteen
Speaker 1: year olds don't look eighteen. Yeah. I've walked into bars
Speaker 1: where people are twenty one I'm assuming and been like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm too old to be here. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be around these children. So then he calls her a
Speaker 1: little spinner and that is, yeah, that's not good. They were,
Speaker 1: and so he said they ordered room service champagne and
Speaker 1: mazzarella sticks, which to me is like, I can't think
Speaker 1: of a greater evening. He then says they have mind
Speaker 1: blowing sex. I have a hard time believing that, since
Speaker 1: he's so against consent, there's no way he's giving mind
Speaker 1: blowing sex. And then he says he was so hammered
Speaker 1: he doesn't even remember, so I'm sure.
Speaker 2: I'm sure was so mind blowing a blacked out man
Speaker 2: like and then he goes, but I have a question.
Speaker 2: Was that rape? We're both drunk and naked. Was it rape?
Speaker 2: He's and then he starts quoting.
Speaker 1: He's like, I heard a feminist one time say anytime
Speaker 1: a girl is drunk, it's considered rape. And it's like
Speaker 1: where the oaks babe wearing punchlines from the first night.
Speaker 1: So here's the joke. He goes, I'm half Irish, so
Speaker 1: for me, it means that all the women on my
Speaker 1: side of the family were raped by the men, going
Speaker 1: back twenty generations. Benson goes, I'm done, and she gets
Speaker 1: up to leave, and then he starts doing an Irish
Speaker 1: accent and and he says, oh, get Mike Grund. I'm
Speaker 1: bad at accents. Do you want to do it? Do
Speaker 1: you see the note? What e is he say?
Speaker 2: He says, I'll get my grandmother for Christmas a rape kit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was it. So then all the cops leave,
Speaker 1: and Cassidy seems upset because he has front row seats
Speaker 1: to his favorite comic and they're outside, there's Christmas lights around,
Speaker 1: there's you know, signs of snow on the ground, and
Speaker 1: Benson says, ugh, I need to take a shower. He's vile,
Speaker 1: and Cassidy's like, girl, he was baiting you. And ronin'sys like, listen,
Speaker 1: we can't charge him because we don't like what he said.
Speaker 1: And then the drunk girl from the night before runs down.
Speaker 1: She's like, wait, are you really SVU Detectives and he
Speaker 1: and she's like, you know that drunk TSU girl he
Speaker 1: was talking about in his set, that's me and I
Speaker 1: think he raped me. In their commercial break obviously a commercial,
Speaker 1: so she's in a glitter long sleeve shirt that's layered
Speaker 1: with pink lace. It's cue and she seems like her
Speaker 1: tuition is paid in full. By her parents and she
Speaker 1: has great eyebrows necklace or she's fooling us and it's
Speaker 1: all marshals, but she's selling it. And she says that
Speaker 1: she's president of the student Activities Board and she helped
Speaker 1: organize the Josh comedy event. She stayed around after his
Speaker 1: sets to make sure everything was okay, and he brought
Speaker 1: her drinks at the bar and he was drinking too,
Speaker 1: and then you know, she did have a head start
Speaker 1: because she was drinking at the show and she was
Speaker 1: drunk and Omar was like, okay, it's goodyear beings straightforward
Speaker 1: with us, and she's like, we danced, we made out
Speaker 1: the bar clothes and he had a car waiting for
Speaker 1: us outside, and he said that that he had a
Speaker 1: super cool hotel room that was paid for by the
Speaker 1: student association, so I should come by and see it.
Speaker 1: And she remembers getting there, but she doesn't remember Champagne.
Speaker 1: Everything is hazy. She doesn't remember anything except for when
Speaker 1: she woke up in the middle of the night. She
Speaker 1: was being raped. She was sodomized. She was face down
Speaker 1: in a pillow, legs hanging off the bed and he
Speaker 1: was inside of her. And she starts to cry and
Speaker 1: it hurt a lot, and it was anal So she
Speaker 1: says that she said no and stop, but he said,
Speaker 1: hang on, doll, I'm almost finished, and she wipes away tears.
Speaker 1: She didn't leave, though she said she was too drunk
Speaker 1: to leave, so she did stay there in the morning,
Speaker 1: and then he gave her a swag bag with like
Speaker 1: T shirts, hat and gift cards and he had a
Speaker 1: bunch of them in the closet and Rollin said, did
Speaker 1: you tell anyone what happened? She goes, no, but I
Speaker 1: wrote an email to him, but I never sent it.
Speaker 1: And Ronin's is like, good, don't open it, don't do anything.
Speaker 1: It's in your drafts folder. Don't touch it. We will
Speaker 1: get into it. And she takes a set from a
Speaker 1: paper cup. And now we're in a walk and talk.
Speaker 1: Barbara's in the middle, flanked by Benson and Tomorrow. This
Speaker 1: is a very sexy threesome and He's says this is
Speaker 1: super gray, and Benson goes, this is black and white,
Speaker 1: and he's like, it's a rape comic and it's not
Speaker 1: the same as a rapist. Do you have more evidence?
Speaker 1: And they're waiting for a rape kit, but the prelimic
Speaker 1: exam shows that. And this is Mulani's joke back in
Speaker 1: the day from his first special New in Town where
Speaker 1: he goes, you know, you can't swear on TV, but
Speaker 1: SVU gets to say crazy shit on primetime, And this
Speaker 1: is one of those sentences where Benson goes, it showed
Speaker 1: forceful anal penetration with bruising, tearing and swelling. Not good.
Speaker 1: Barbara's being so bitchy, holding his coffee looking down like, okay,
Speaker 1: she didn't know she was raped until he made fun
Speaker 1: of her and his monologue and he's like it was
Speaker 1: a confession, not a monologue. And Barba's like, you don't
Speaker 1: like him, and we can't go after him because of
Speaker 1: the stand up routine, and you know it's he'll become
Speaker 1: like a free speech hero. And Benson and Tomorrow are
Speaker 1: pleading with him, like this guy is a classic power
Speaker 1: assertive rapist, and Tomorrow is like, there are post sex
Speaker 1: swag bags, Barbara, come on, let's track his financials. Maybe
Speaker 1: there are other victims. Barbara says, fine, get another VIC
Speaker 1: and I'll get you a warrant and he spins away,
Speaker 1: and Renee Clark is with the detectives being like she's
Speaker 1: a party girl and she heckled me that night, and babe,
Speaker 1: and it's like, you heckled too. You're all hecklers. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're all hecklers. You're all terrible audience members. But this
Speaker 1: guy is a rapist. I don't know if we should
Speaker 1: have talked about comedies so much up top because he
Speaker 1: is a bad person. Yeah, I but you know, what
Speaker 1: are we gonna do? So she's like, it's ironic now
Speaker 1: that she wants my help, and Benson's like, well, I'm
Speaker 1: glad you're helping her. You are a hero. You go girl.
Speaker 1: So she doesn't get why he isn't a rent arrested though,
Speaker 1: and Benson's like, we're on it, like you guys that
Speaker 1: we're a TV show, but we can't remove this fast. Okay,
Speaker 1: So tomorrow isn't having luck tracking swag bag money. But
Speaker 1: Rollins did find something interesting. Out of one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty bookings last year, he only canceled one in Albany
Speaker 1: and it's the student union guy. I was pissed because
Speaker 1: the police held him up at a previous gig. In
Speaker 1: New Pulse, Finn chimes in the New Palse, PD would
Speaker 1: only confirm that they questioned him about an accusation, and
Speaker 1: Renee Clark is suddenly part of the squad. She's just
Speaker 1: there brainstorming and the DA didn't press charges there either,
Speaker 1: and Finn explains that the girl recant did, so let's
Speaker 1: find out why. Also, New Pults is a village in
Speaker 1: New York. It's eighty miles north of NYC, and it's
Speaker 1: a Sunni What is at State University of New York
Speaker 1: And it said that the school is super competitive and
Speaker 1: it's a rich hippie town. Is the vibe I got.
Speaker 1: So they're off to New Pats and so we're I think,
Speaker 1: I don't know how I said it earlier. So we're
Speaker 1: at a dorm room of Aubrey Audrey Truffett Trafe Trufo
Speaker 1: Trufo Trufo, Audrey, beautiful name. So it's a Sunday and
Speaker 1: they're working on a Sunday. She doesn't want to be
Speaker 1: talking to them, and they noticed she was. She has
Speaker 1: a really nice watch and they're like, oh, was that
Speaker 1: diamond watch part of the deal And she covers it
Speaker 1: quickly with her sleeve and she's like, listen, Josh was
Speaker 1: just being nice And Rollins is like when he raped
Speaker 1: you and she doesn't like that, and they asked what happened.
Speaker 1: She says she was drunk. It was rougher what she's
Speaker 1: used to and she's like, I guess everyone likes it differently,
Speaker 1: but I think he thought it was normal. And Finn
Speaker 1: is like why because he gave you a gift bag
Speaker 1: and she's shocked, like how do they know about it?
Speaker 1: And they're like, babe, you're not the first one to
Speaker 1: accuse him. And they asked if she kept the bag,
Speaker 1: and she is upset and she can't really talk about it,
Speaker 1: and Rollins gets closer with her, bangs swoopier than ever,
Speaker 1: and she says, there's nothing in your non disclosure agreement
Speaker 1: about showing us what's in the bag? Was there? She agrees,
Speaker 1: walks towards her closet and she hands over the bag.
Speaker 1: She did use some of the gift cards, but everything
Speaker 1: else is untouched. There's a mug and Rollins is like, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe we can get a warrant. So we're in the office.
Speaker 1: It's back to tomorrow and Benson trying to convince Barbara
Speaker 1: to give a damn and love. Anique pulled the serial note.
Speaker 1: This is the gift card, and he buys gift cards
Speaker 1: and batches of twelve and tomorrow jokes cheaper by the dozen.
Speaker 1: So now everyone wants to be a comedian. Now I
Speaker 1: have a story. I know I've had too many stories,
Speaker 1: and I apologize. So we have a friend. And months
Speaker 1: and months ago she went a little viral. We posted it,
Speaker 1: but she went on a date. She went on some
Speaker 1: dates with us U New York Detective Special Victims Unit detective.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, and you know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: they had a fund. They had a fun few dates.
Speaker 1: So while we're at while we're in Austin, she sends
Speaker 1: me a screenshot He texts her going, hey, any advice
Speaker 1: on someone who wants to start comedy and what open
Speaker 1: mics to go to? And it's like, babe, why don't
Speaker 1: you go test the rape kits? How about that we
Speaker 1: don't have detective were asking for a friend? No, oh
Speaker 1: my god. And it's like, can you just solve the rapes?
Speaker 1: We need help, we need we have enough comedians. We
Speaker 1: have way too many comedians. What we don't have is
Speaker 1: SVU detectives that are doing their job. No, no, but nikes.
Speaker 1: See there was just a huge article about how that
Speaker 1: New York SVU is like working at like a four
Speaker 1: percent closure rate or something like they're doing horrible. Will
Speaker 1: you send me that? I have to send it to
Speaker 1: our friend to send to him because it's like, babe,
Speaker 1: there's no time for open mics. So they tracked all
Speaker 1: the gift cards to the recipients. Most of the girls
Speaker 1: said it was consensual sex, even though it was more
Speaker 1: aggressive than they felt comfortable with. They are also not
Speaker 1: comfortable with pressing charges. Barba still is like, this is
Speaker 1: not enough. There is no case, and Benson's like so
Speaker 1: fucking pissed, but they keep going back and forth, arguing
Speaker 1: Benson is guilting him. Barba's giving in with a sigh.
Speaker 1: Somorrow meets him in the lobby and he's sad. Rollins
Speaker 1: isn't there. He's like, where's the cute blonde? And Tomorrow's like,
Speaker 1: cut the stick. Do you recognize this girl? Shows the
Speaker 1: photo of the party girl. He's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe if you have a photo of the top of
Speaker 1: her head. Tomorrow hate Jesus and I hate him. We
Speaker 1: all hate him, and he's like, I'm kidding, and Finn
Speaker 1: is like, do you know Carly ride out and she's
Speaker 1: accusing you of rape. And then Finn twists the knife
Speaker 1: and says, lets him know he's not gonna be able
Speaker 1: to buy himself out of this one with a diamond watch.
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, you're talking about new pals, and
Speaker 1: he's like, all ought. He says, Audrey, that little chuckle slut.
Speaker 1: He plays an amazing asshole. I mean, this is such
Speaker 1: a great performance. And I've never heard chuckle slut.
Speaker 2: They're called chuckle fuckers, but this was obviously what they
Speaker 2: had to do to make it palatable for television.
Speaker 1: But chuckle slut. But I lay little chuckle slut. I
Speaker 1: do like that little chuckle flut. So he says that
Speaker 1: she recanted, and so will this chick. Finn says, well,
Speaker 1: the DA disagrees, which is untrue. Barbara does not want
Speaker 1: to take this to trial. Benson is forcing this upon him.
Speaker 1: You bullied him into it. So this is all funny
Speaker 1: to me too. The comics love it. And he does
Speaker 1: not realize, like, no, no, no, you're a rapist. So
Speaker 1: he's like, this is a political case. Awesome news. I'm
Speaker 1: the right guy. Omaro goes call your attorney. He loves
Speaker 1: being arrested. The paparazzis already outside the hotel. He calls
Speaker 1: Iced Tea jay Z and he wants a show, so
Speaker 1: let's do this. He dedicates his arrest to Lenny Bruce,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I think Lenny Bruce just swore. I
Speaker 1: think you raped. But okay, So that's another thing comics
Speaker 1: will sometimes do, but where they're like comics, we gotta
Speaker 1: have each other's back. Comics, we're all comics. We gotta
Speaker 1: have each other's back. And it's like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we are people and I hate you, Like, yeah, I support.
Speaker 1: I would have comics backs and saying shit, but it's
Speaker 1: like a lot of you guys suck. Like there's more
Speaker 1: to like comebacks.
Speaker 2: When people say that guys are fucking creeps, they don't
Speaker 2: have the backs.
Speaker 1: There's no backs. Then, yeah, why don't you have our backs?
Speaker 1: Yeah damn, that's a good point. Oh yeah, comics only
Speaker 1: have each other's back. Yeah, just say god, I need
Speaker 1: a joint. I'm like a too stressed out. Ohkay. So
Speaker 1: then he's got the big bucks. So he has Elizabeth
Speaker 1: Marvel aka Rita Calhoun, and she's on the courtroom steps
Speaker 1: on a brisk new York Day, and they're focusing on
Speaker 1: the material of all this, not the rape part. They
Speaker 1: keep mentioning free speech censorship. So then one reporter asked, Josh,
Speaker 1: is rape funny? Any responds no, of course not, and
Speaker 1: then a guy reporter shouts, but gang rape is, and
Speaker 1: then all the reporters giggle and he goes, no, I
Speaker 1: respect women, many of whom are my fans. So now
Speaker 1: we're in court and the party girls on the stand
Speaker 1: and she's reading her unsent email. Josh, I'm really confused
Speaker 1: about what happened last night. It was fun at first,
Speaker 1: but you so crossed the line. I'm really sore. I
Speaker 1: don't get why you didn't listen to me when I
Speaker 1: said stop. It wasn't okay what you did with me.
Speaker 1: She says. The reason she didn't send it was because
Speaker 1: she had to work with him that night, because she
Speaker 1: is the student activity chair. And Barba's like, okay, let's
Speaker 1: get through the night, and they recap what happened to
Speaker 1: her show drinks, hotel, kiss bed, and then she's holding
Speaker 1: tears back. He was really force full at first. She
Speaker 1: went along with it, but the room was spinning. She
Speaker 1: passed out when she woke up. He was sodomizing her.
Speaker 1: She continued that it hurt. She said, no, she was crying.
Speaker 1: He didn't listen, and he did whatever he wanted. She
Speaker 1: then stayed the night, and she goes, she was too
Speaker 1: drunk to leave, but she slept on the bathroom floor.
Speaker 1: Now it's Rita's turn, and we know this is not
Speaker 1: going to be easy. So she's like, you've been to
Speaker 1: six of Josh Galloway's shows last year. You're a groupie.
Speaker 1: And she goes, I was a fan, and she's like,
Speaker 1: didn't you want to sleep with him? And she goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not sure what I wanted, and which
Speaker 1: is fair, like you know what I mean, You're also
Speaker 1: allowed to change your mind. Yeah, you drank at the
Speaker 1: bar and made out you wanted it, didn't you. And
Speaker 1: she admits that she was flattered, and Rita's like, well,
Speaker 1: you loved the room service and sex, didn't you. And
Speaker 1: then the girl screams back that wasn't sex. I would
Speaker 1: never have sex there. I definitely did not want it,
Speaker 1: and I told him that it hurt. She then says,
Speaker 1: You've I felt no pain the rest of the night. Huh.
Speaker 1: Barbara calls an objection. So then she pushes about the
Speaker 1: booze and is like, you're you're drunk, and the girl
Speaker 1: is very Tinsey Mortimer in this, and she goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm drinking leu Ayne again. People are allowed to drink.
Speaker 1: She's doing the classics. Lets shame drunk, shame of a
Speaker 1: rape victim and counting her drinks. Calls her a binge
Speaker 1: drinker and says you use alcoholic experiment and being a slut.
Speaker 1: So that's that there's objections. The court case gets wild.
Speaker 1: Benson shakes her head in the stands, John shakes, Josh
Speaker 1: shakes his head. No, now we watch someone watch Josh
Speaker 1: vlogging his trial. He names her even though it's an
Speaker 1: anonymous accuser, So fuck you, dude. Is there like a
Speaker 1: log inside? So shitty? Yeah, I'm sure. I mean publications
Speaker 1: are not allowed to I don't know about individuals. So
Speaker 1: then we pull back and on the screen and the
Speaker 1: whole team is watching it on a bar, so Cassidy's
Speaker 1: in the middle holding the screen. I think it's an iPad.
Speaker 1: And then at tomorrow Finn, Rollins and Benson all at
Speaker 1: the bar and it's a bar that I would like
Speaker 1: to be at. It looks like divy and perfect. You know,
Speaker 1: this guy is just not understanding the difference between sex
Speaker 1: and rape, and he's willfully not seeing a difference. And
Speaker 1: then he shows a video from the show, and this
Speaker 1: is where things get a little hard on the case.
Speaker 1: This girl was wasted and she acted super quote unquote easy,
Speaker 1: and this video evidence is her being just like a
Speaker 1: drunk slut at the show. And she gets on stage,
Speaker 1: she flashes him her bra and she was into being
Speaker 1: like partying, and then you know, they keep nicknaming her
Speaker 1: party girls. So then josh on this video goes you
Speaker 1: know what else, starts with pete perjury and it's I
Speaker 1: want to fire out, like you want to kill this man?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, so Ben's soever, you know, he's laughing. Benson
Speaker 1: runs out of the bar. She's very upset. Barbara is
Speaker 1: on the big screen TV and showing Carly the video.
Speaker 1: She's so embarrassed, like who got this video? And Barbara's
Speaker 1: mad at rawlins like that they didn't find it or
Speaker 1: how it's spread, and so he's mad that they didn't
Speaker 1: do better police work. Barba's being a brat and he
Speaker 1: runs out upset about the case. And they're in judge's
Speaker 1: chambers and the lawyers are going head to head. So
Speaker 1: Rita is denying knowing about the video. Barba's pocket square
Speaker 1: is popping. She wants it in as evidence. Barbara wants
Speaker 1: a full mistrial. That's denied. Benson is walking down the
Speaker 1: courtroom lobby now and she's like, I mean it's an
Speaker 1: uphill battle, I understand, but the video is excluded and
Speaker 1: Barbara's straight up like shut up. So that's that. So
Speaker 1: now Benson's on the stand, Rita's going at her and
Speaker 1: she's like still hammering on about the drinking of it all.
Speaker 1: And Rita also has a very ugly low ponytail. It's
Speaker 1: like a comb over poof in the front and a
Speaker 1: low pony in the back. Josh is smiling. He loves
Speaker 1: all of this, and Benson and Barbara are back to
Speaker 1: walking and she is like, sorry to fucking up this,
Speaker 1: you know, trial, So she fucked up on the stand
Speaker 1: and she's like, I fucked up. I'm so sorry. This
Speaker 1: is my first back on the stand since William Lewis.
Speaker 1: And he interrupts her and goes, yeah, I know, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Barbara then accuses Benson of pushing this
Speaker 1: case for her own ego, and Benson is shocked, and
Speaker 1: then they go into a private room to fight, and
Speaker 1: she's like, what did you just say? And he says, well,
Speaker 1: you took over the squad and you want to make
Speaker 1: a big name for yourself, so you're taking down this
Speaker 1: celebrity to show everyone how you're not scared. And she's
Speaker 1: like shocked, and she's like, that's how you feel about me,
Speaker 1: Like you know that that's not me. I'm not an
Speaker 1: ego driven person and you know that. And he brings
Speaker 1: up her tough year and that she's going through a lot,
Speaker 1: and she's like, wait, so is it my ego or
Speaker 1: is it that my judgment's impaired And he goes, no,
Speaker 1: my judgment's impaired. And I'm pissed that I took this
Speaker 1: case and your squad did a shitty fucking job investigating,
Speaker 1: and I'm annoyed. And so she's pissed and she's like,
Speaker 1: I thought we had each other's back and he says
Speaker 1: so did I and walks off. And so now Josh's
Speaker 1: on the stand and he's crushing it. Okay, he's doing jokes.
Speaker 1: Thing is serious to him. This is a rape trial.
Speaker 1: He does not give a fuck. He is laughing it up.
Speaker 1: Rita Calhoun is casually leaning on the stand like they're
Speaker 1: like talking at a bar. He's ragging on the uh
Speaker 1: on Carly the party girl, and how she came back
Speaker 1: after the show, and that the only reason she brought
Speaker 1: up these allegations are after the show where he did
Speaker 1: jokes making fun about her, and you know she took
Speaker 1: the gift bag and the jury is cracking up about
Speaker 1: this gift bag and the judge, and then he turns
Speaker 1: to the judge and he goes, how you doing, and
Speaker 1: Barbara is sitting. He's sassy, and you know he's doing
Speaker 1: the ice. He's school of acting. He's sitting instead of
Speaker 1: standing when he starts the questioning, so Barbara goes, okay,
Speaker 1: so you're saying this is just like a one night
Speaker 1: stand and her feelings got her and that's that. And
Speaker 1: he goes, yes, she came after me hard, and he
Speaker 1: asks if that happens to him a lot, and he
Speaker 1: says yes, I'm very famous and I'm very funny and
Speaker 1: people want to fuck me and the jury is loving it, laughing,
Speaker 1: and Barbara ads, and and you're good looking, and I
Speaker 1: don't get that is Barba flirting. I know.
Speaker 2: I think he's trying to lull him into a false
Speaker 2: sense of security so he can go after him.
Speaker 1: Ooh, so, but I don't think this is going well.
Speaker 1: So they flirt a little. He brings up anal sex
Speaker 1: and he goes, that's not illegal in the state of
Speaker 1: New York. He calls this whole trial a joke, and
Speaker 1: Barbara brings up consent and he's like, she went up
Speaker 1: to my hotel room, she came into my bed. It's
Speaker 1: hard to shoot a moving target. And Barbara quickly is like,
Speaker 1: how about an unconscious one. Barba's like, the emmy said
Speaker 1: that Carly suffered many injuries, and so he goes, so
Speaker 1: did I. That's the funny thing about sex, You get injured.
Speaker 1: And again the jury's laughing. That wasn't even that funny.
Speaker 1: Everyone's laughing. Barbara's trying to be serious, and finally he's like,
Speaker 1: is this all funny to you? Her pain, her screaming,
Speaker 1: her sleeping on the bathroom floor, and he gets sassy again,
Speaker 1: and I mean, he refuses to be serious. He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: were you there? I didn't realize I had a threesome.
Speaker 1: Barbara flips like, oh my god, this trial's just material
Speaker 1: for you. Huh. And then Josh calls himself an artist
Speaker 1: and Barbara questions him and he goes, listen, life is
Speaker 1: my material. Racism, incest, rape. If you don't joke about it,
Speaker 1: you cry. And it's like, no, if you got raped
Speaker 1: and then made jokes, that would be great. You can't
Speaker 1: make jokes as the rapist. Yeah, Like it makes no sense.
Speaker 1: So he says that it's his job as a social
Speaker 1: satirist satirist. Why do you say that word satirist? I didn't,
Speaker 1: so both of my options were, okay, a satirist. So
Speaker 1: finally he gets serious. He's like, you got to shock
Speaker 1: people and go there and make them think about Christian hypocrisy.
Speaker 1: And Barba's like, okay, so forcing yourself onto a pass
Speaker 1: out twenty one year old is part of your act.
Speaker 1: And he's like again he's the victim, and he's like,
Speaker 1: this trial is bogus, you know, And he's like, this
Speaker 1: isn't a rape trial. This is a trial about a
Speaker 1: young girl who got in over her head. And it's like,
Speaker 1: is that not a confession to me? That's a confession? Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: because if someone's over their head in something, and they go, wait,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this. You should stop. I
Speaker 1: don't know okay, and he again is just like, she
Speaker 1: had a fantasy about becoming part of my world, but
Speaker 1: when the coach turned back into a pumpkin, she cried
Speaker 1: and then cried rape. And instead of getting over it,
Speaker 1: you sue. And if you think she's not gonna sue,
Speaker 1: I have a bridge to sell you. And Barbara interrupts,
Speaker 1: so wait, is she after you for your money or
Speaker 1: we want you silenced, or we're mad at you for
Speaker 1: calling out Christians? And he adds and my success, I
Speaker 1: am not guilty, and I'm sorry if her feelings got her.
Speaker 1: I did not rape that girl. Nothing further. So then
Speaker 1: we get a shot of Renee Clark looking panicked as hell,
Speaker 1: and then a shot of Carly looking pissed as hell,
Speaker 1: and we're in a busy hallway and there's a little
Speaker 1: chat session going on about like what's gonna happen, and
Speaker 1: Benson's like, yeah, I mean they saw the video, and
Speaker 1: Renee is like, ugh, Carly is such a waste case.
Speaker 1: She then is like fuck, I feel bad. I was
Speaker 1: a victim and now I'm victim blaming Ben's and is like,
Speaker 1: we both know Carly didn't want this to happen, but
Speaker 1: she is a dumb slut. Both things can be true.
Speaker 1: And Renee is like, what about all the other girls,
Speaker 1: and she explains the judge won't allow it because and
Speaker 1: then Renee is like, okay, so we need another victim.
Speaker 1: What if we set him up? And Benson goes the
Speaker 1: NYPD cannot approach him during this trial without his lawyer,
Speaker 1: and Renee's like, what if it's not the NYPD? And
Speaker 1: Renee's like, anything that you're thinking of doing, you are
Speaker 1: not doing it. He is a dangerous man. And she's like, okay, fine,
Speaker 1: yeah he's dangerous. And now he's about to get to
Speaker 1: go free. And Benson's like, well, you brought him to trial,
Speaker 1: maybe he'll think twice before raping again. Huh. So then
Speaker 1: Benson walks off, Renee rushes off the bench, and I
Speaker 1: think we know what's about to happen. She will not
Speaker 1: be listening to Benson. Josh is sitting at a bustling
Speaker 1: bar and we see Renee enter the bar in disguise
Speaker 1: with like a confused outfit. For sure, there's buns, there's glasses,
Speaker 1: there's drop earrings. There's heels that are so of this
Speaker 1: time and like a professional tight dress. The music is bumping.
Speaker 1: She walks towards Josh, who's on his phone drink and
Speaker 1: like he's drinking and then just scrolling on his phone.
Speaker 1: So this is he's definitely a comic. This is how
Speaker 1: I spend most of my life on the road, just
Speaker 1: alone at a bar on my phone. They start flirting.
Speaker 1: He asks if he knows her, and she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we met a few years ago. He pretends to remember her.
Speaker 1: What are you drinking? YadA YadA. We're at the hotel.
Speaker 1: The champagne is being poored. She says she's nervous, and
Speaker 1: he sits her down and goes, that's what the booze
Speaker 1: is for a girl. He takes off her glasses and
Speaker 1: places them on the nightstand. She takes her butt down
Speaker 1: and he calls her pretty, and they start to kiss
Speaker 1: and everything is fine. But then she looks at her
Speaker 1: phone and is like, oh fuck, that's the third text
Speaker 1: for my boyfriend. And he's like boyfriend and she's like fuck.
Speaker 1: He tracks my phone. I have to go and he's
Speaker 1: like no and then blocks her and he grabs the
Speaker 1: bottle of champagne and says, what once we pop, we
Speaker 1: don't stop? She says, sorry, I really have to go.
Speaker 1: He grabs her arm, pulls her back and won't let
Speaker 1: her leave the hotel room. She keeps saying no and
Speaker 1: how she has to go. He does not compute. He's like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? How do you? What do
Speaker 1: you mean? Like he's very Hilaria bald when here he's like, no,
Speaker 1: how do you Koma does wait? You do great cucumber? Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's doing that like he doesn't know what no means.
Speaker 1: She's fighting him off. It gets really uncomfortable. It's a
Speaker 1: really intense scene. It's really hard to watch the scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. She keeps saying stop. He goes, fine, if
Speaker 1: you like it rough, I can get rough, throws her
Speaker 1: on the bed. She continues to scream. She is now crying.
Speaker 1: She pushed. He pushes her face down under the bed.
Speaker 1: She is fighting for her life. He is going to
Speaker 1: rape her and he has no intentions to stop. He's
Speaker 1: pulling her hair as she cries, and finally she kicks
Speaker 1: him and is able to get up from his grip,
Speaker 1: and while she's sitting up, he rips her dress. Off,
Speaker 1: and she stands up and he says, oh, now you're
Speaker 1: ready to party, So then she kicks him again and
Speaker 1: then has to kick him in the dick. Finally he
Speaker 1: falls over and screams God. She grabs her glasses off
Speaker 1: the nightstand and runs off, and he's yelling like, hey,
Speaker 1: where are you going, and it's like away from you what?
Speaker 1: And he calls her a bitch. And now we watch
Speaker 1: the attack on a laptop screen and Barba slowly shuts
Speaker 1: the laptop screen down as we see a smug, eyewin
Speaker 1: look on his face. Josh is sitting there and still
Speaker 1: doesn't look like he's taking any of this seriously. Rita
Speaker 1: Calhoun looks at him, like this fucking idiot and says
Speaker 1: there was a camera in her eyeglasses. Rita accuses the
Speaker 1: NYPD of doing this. Barba assures her that she did
Speaker 1: it all on her own and bought her spyware glasses
Speaker 1: at best Buy. Shout out, yeah, she probably has a
Speaker 1: receipt and I'm sure that Taru got something better than
Speaker 1: best Buy spyglasses, so proof. And Rita is like, who cares?
Speaker 1: This won't be admissible regardless, and thinks the NYPD still
Speaker 1: did this. Barba is calm and confident. He says, she
Speaker 1: did this on her own, and I'm not looking to
Speaker 1: use it at this trial. I'm bringing on a new case,
Speaker 1: bitch attempted rape and sexual assault. And Josh's like, hey,
Speaker 1: what is this? First the vendetta, now a shakedown and
Speaker 1: it's like, you try to rape someone on camera?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: So even his lawyers like, Josh stop, So finally he
Speaker 1: shuts up and she's like, I'm sure me and Barba
Speaker 1: can work something out, and he smiles. So now it's
Speaker 1: Carly in a little Wednesday Adams caller and asking Finn
Speaker 1: and Rollins like, damn, Josh agreed to a deal. He's
Speaker 1: not going to jail, but he is going to be
Speaker 1: a registered sex defender for ten years, and she goes, wow,
Speaker 1: so does this mean I can sue him? And she smiles,
Speaker 1: and Rollin says that's your call, and Finn judges her
Speaker 1: and leans back in his chair and Benson and Barbara,
Speaker 1: the two Bees, are spying on the two way mirror
Speaker 1: and they're like, this bitch is a piece of work. Damn.
Speaker 1: And then we get info that Renee's video of Josh
Speaker 1: can never see the light of day. It all has
Speaker 1: to remain confidential, and Amara was like, I mean he
Speaker 1: still wins. This is bullshit, And Benson tries to be like,
Speaker 1: I mean he pled guilty and he's on the registry
Speaker 1: and Amara was like yeah, and he walks right back
Speaker 1: on stage and Barbara says, who knows. I mean the
Speaker 1: court of public opinion is strong. But also he's going
Speaker 1: to sell theaters now, the venues will get bigger. I
Speaker 1: think they under a spad. How many people love a rapist?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So then Benson then needs to stick it to Barbara
Speaker 1: and is like, so it was the right thing to
Speaker 1: do to bring this case up right, and he says,
Speaker 1: don't fish. You snatched a tie out of the jaws
Speaker 1: of defeat. And then he goes, you want to stay
Speaker 1: commanding officer. I want you to stay commanding officer. Don't
Speaker 1: bring me cases like this, and he walks off with
Speaker 1: a little briefcase. Omar's like what the fuck and Benson
Speaker 1: goes Ego and he's like, you saved his ass and
Speaker 1: she goes, well, yeah, after I put it out on
Speaker 1: the line, and Amaro goes, no, he will get over it,
Speaker 1: and so will Cassidy. And she goes what very defensively,
Speaker 1: and he's like, well, you took down his favorite comic,
Speaker 1: and she says good night and he walks away. Another
Speaker 1: reason why Cassidy was not the right person for Live,
Speaker 1: Like this guy is his favorite comic. Yeah, and her
Speaker 1: cell phone rings and it's Brian Cassidy and she read
Speaker 1: button rejects it. And then this is just like a crossover,
Speaker 1: like who cares about this ending? But knock knock gets
Speaker 1: Sophia Bush as Detective Aaron Lindsay from Chicago p D.
Speaker 1: And she said that the raspy voiced man Voight had
Speaker 1: called and they need help on an ear cutting rape case.
Speaker 1: Because Benson knows the m O. They didn't get far
Speaker 1: and investigating, and then Sophia's like, damn, how did you
Speaker 1: guys even like do this? No witnesses, no evidence. This
Speaker 1: makes me feel like a rookie again. And Benson sits
Speaker 1: down powerfully and says, for what it's worth, your boss
Speaker 1: said you were the smartest detective he's ever worked with.
Speaker 1: But I'll get you those notes and the and you know,
Speaker 1: email whatever you need. So she came to New York
Speaker 1: for this ear file. Sophia Bush can't believe that Voight
Speaker 1: said nice things about her, and Benson says good luck.
Speaker 1: Sophia smiles, and then Benson's alone in her chair and
Speaker 1: that's that's it. I hate like she came from Chicago
Speaker 1: to get files. It's so confusing. I don't, yeah, because
Speaker 1: this is before the like Rednecks stuff, like, this is
Speaker 1: before all the cross So yeah, I just I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like the ending. I
Speaker 1: wish yeah, and ended is as big as it started.
Speaker 1: I talked for too long. This is a nightmare at
Speaker 1: Casey have fun editing, all right, say where you are
Speaker 1: when you come back. We've got some crime, Okay. So
Speaker 1: we talked about this a little bit up top.
Speaker 2: Like the general theme of this episode is obviously ripped
Speaker 2: from like comics with controversial jokes. And at this time
Speaker 2: you may or may not remember, but I remember this
Speaker 2: that Daniel Tosh had a very controversial moment where he
Speaker 2: had a rape joke and he said it at a
Speaker 2: show and a woman at the show yelled out, actually,
Speaker 2: rape jokes are never funny, and then Tash replied, wouldn't
Speaker 2: it be funny if that girl got raped by like
Speaker 2: five guys right now? Like right now, what if a
Speaker 2: bunch of guys just raped her dot dog? Okay, I
Speaker 2: remember this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so now I forgot all about this and now
Speaker 1: I'm back and I remember that. Yeah. So that was
Speaker 1: his quote.
Speaker 2: And like a lot of comics, like a lot of
Speaker 2: comics that we know and like, were coming to his defense.
Speaker 1: A lot of comics.
Speaker 2: Were saying, like I've probably just said earlier, like he has.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just gotta be funny whatever, But this.
Speaker 1: Is also a thing where she heckled and you have
Speaker 1: to think quick, you know what I mean, Like, and
Speaker 1: I bet that's just where his brain went and he
Speaker 1: had to shut it down, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Because it's like you have multiple you have a few
Speaker 1: seconds to decide how you're gonna respond. Yeah, well he
Speaker 1: apologized later, I guess to the woman like through a
Speaker 1: blog or something. This all happened like right before this episode,
Speaker 1: like twenty thirteen. And then he also defended his initial
Speaker 1: jokes and like that people have to be able to
Speaker 1: joke about whatever they want. Well, because it's like everyone
Speaker 1: has their own sensitive thing, like you can't you can't
Speaker 1: take everyone's needs into account when you're performing, Like I
Speaker 1: just got like an angry message from someone about a
Speaker 1: joke I have. It's a quick bit about diabetes. I
Speaker 1: am the butt of the joke. Yeah, but a woman
Speaker 1: wrote that, like her kid almost died because of diabetes,
Speaker 1: and what a serious illness. And it's like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: we can't take diabetes off the table, like because of
Speaker 1: your child. And it's same, it's like I'm sorry if
Speaker 1: your grandfather died in a fire, but like we can
Speaker 1: we can't. You can't question Yeah, you can't just do
Speaker 1: a questionnaire of every audience and everything's off the table.
Speaker 1: And obviously there's more like traumatic and fucked up topics
Speaker 1: like rape, but everyone has their own sad things. Everyone
Speaker 1: has lived a life, everyone has sensitive topics. You can't
Speaker 1: say every like it's off limits, and a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, differently, a lot of people feel differently about those topics.
Speaker 2: They like to hear jokes about them or they don't,
Speaker 2: you know. So it's just too many people to you can't.
Speaker 2: You just can't please everybody, And like.
Speaker 1: This is exciting. I'm excited to hear everything though, because
Speaker 1: I forgot about the Tosham right when you said that,
Speaker 1: I'm like that, yep, I remember this well.
Speaker 2: That's kind of that's kind of all I have for that.
Speaker 2: Like basically that was like where that like little piece,
Speaker 2: like that general piece of the beginning and like with
Speaker 2: the whole renee part in her standing up and blah
Speaker 2: blah blah.
Speaker 1: That's where that came from.
Speaker 2: The gift swagbag reference comes from a rumor published by
Speaker 2: The New York Post that said that Derek Jeter gave
Speaker 2: gift baskets to women after and one night stands. A
Speaker 2: source said to the Post quote, Derek has girls stay
Speaker 2: with him at his apartment in New York, and then
Speaker 2: he gets them a car to take them home the
Speaker 2: next day. Waiting in his car is a gift basket
Speaker 2: containing signed Jeter memorabilia, usually as signed baseball end quote.
Speaker 2: Jeter replied and said, I read the article. You know,
Speaker 2: you see it, and then it's like, how the fuck
Speaker 2: did people come up with this? You know, basically that's it,
Speaker 2: and who would believe this shit?
Speaker 1: And you believe it? End of quote.
Speaker 2: So Derek jer denies it. Derek Jeter denies it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, honestly, I bet you could sell an
Speaker 1: autograph baseball for a lot of money, Like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a nice little gift. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's better than a mug like to get And
Speaker 1: I don't think Derek Jeter is raping. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's where the gift bag idea came from,
Speaker 2: because that article came out like right before this art
Speaker 2: this episode, and then.
Speaker 1: Narnini leaks too one time told an audience member, I
Speaker 1: hope you get raped, and then her tour was canceled
Speaker 1: and I have shever did's stand up again? Yeah. I
Speaker 1: look at that like that's the difference between a woman
Speaker 1: saying something and also a black woman saying something than
Speaker 1: a white man who goes. I said it, and I apologized.
Speaker 2: I'm moving on, gonna keep going with my show that's
Speaker 2: on television and my tours, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, you know, I don't think anyone Yeah, totally. Okay.
Speaker 2: So this episode is based on a couple of crazy crimes.
Speaker 2: One is the story of Vince Champ, who was a
Speaker 2: former stand up comedian who won Star Search in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety two and he won one hundred thousand dollars. Okay,
Speaker 2: he did clubs and colleges all over the country.
Speaker 1: Everybody loved this guy.
Speaker 2: He was known as a clean comic, which, if you
Speaker 2: don't know, just means no swearing, not talking about really
Speaker 2: sex or anything blue and college bookers love that shit.
Speaker 2: Like college bookers would be like, please don't swear, Please
Speaker 2: don't talk about XYZ topics. Like So, he was booking
Speaker 2: colleges all over the place. Everybody said nicest, sky, clean
Speaker 2: as a whistle. And guess what a fucking serial rapist.
Speaker 2: This guy would find victims on the college campuses, like
Speaker 2: not at his shows like in the episode, but he
Speaker 2: would go to like the computer labs or music rooms
Speaker 2: and he'd find girls by themselves. He would cover their
Speaker 2: faces so that they couldn't see him. He would assault
Speaker 2: them and talk to them while he was assaulting them
Speaker 2: like this. One victim said, quote, I was just trying
Speaker 2: to do anything to get out of there alive as
Speaker 2: quickly as possible. But she said that while he was
Speaker 2: assaulting her, he asked her about her sexual history, her parents,
Speaker 2: her siblings, her roommate, and then he like threatened to
Speaker 2: take her id so that he could find her later,
Speaker 2: threaten her with scissors, and he told her if she
Speaker 2: didn't play along, he would, you know, beat her face in,
Speaker 2: And he didn't do any of that. He never took
Speaker 2: her id and he never like beat her up, but
Speaker 2: you know, he told her wait five minutes and then
Speaker 2: asked her to pray for him after he left like
Speaker 2: as he left like sick.
Speaker 1: And he did this to multiple people.
Speaker 2: And then in May of nineteen ninety seven, he was
Speaker 2: attempting to rape a woman at Pasadena City College here
Speaker 2: right near me where I live, and that's where the
Speaker 2: NPR station that I listened to is out of, and
Speaker 2: the woman screamed. He ran witnesses her the scream and
Speaker 2: got his license plate number, and he got arrested the
Speaker 2: next day. And then his DNA popped on a bunch
Speaker 2: of other rapes at college campuses, and one of his
Speaker 2: agents said that his college schedule looked like quote a
Speaker 2: road map of where these rapes occurred. So he was
Speaker 2: only convicted of three of them, but he's linked to
Speaker 2: a bunch more. But he's currently serving thirty to forty
Speaker 2: year sentence at in Nebraska for rapes that he committed
Speaker 2: in that state, and as soon as he is set
Speaker 2: to be released in twenty thirty three, he's facing two
Speaker 2: life sentences for rapes he did in Iowa. So he's
Speaker 2: never getting out, which is amazing, but like universally revered
Speaker 2: as like a nice guy comic, and he would apparently
Speaker 2: chastise other comics for like their material being too blue
Speaker 2: the way Cosby used to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, clean comedians are always on a high horse. And
Speaker 1: it's like, after Bill Cosby, your argument has crumbled. Yeah,
Speaker 1: swear a little.
Speaker 2: So that's one fucked up like old case from not
Speaker 2: that old, but from the nineties.
Speaker 1: And then he's in jail forever.
Speaker 2: And then this one is what I always remember thinking
Speaker 2: that it was based on because this happened in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 2: like seven months before this episode came out. There's a
Speaker 2: comic named Adam Scott Richmond. And on July twenty ninth,
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, in Bloomington, Minnesota, the cops were called at
Speaker 2: about three am to an assault progress and they were
Speaker 2: told a woman was yelling at a man to stop
Speaker 2: and get away. This woman worked as a server at
Speaker 2: Rick Bronson's comedy club at the Mall of America.
Speaker 1: Do you know this venue? I've performed there multiple times.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, wait, this is so wild. Yeah yeah, I've
Speaker 1: performed there. They own a club, they own multiple clubs,
Speaker 1: so I've performed at Rick Bronson's comedy clubs in like
Speaker 1: Edmonton and Arizona and at the Mall of America. But
Speaker 1: I love living in a mall. Yes, I've never been
Speaker 1: to the Mall of America. I'd love to go. And
Speaker 1: once I performed there during Black Friday weekend and everyone
Speaker 1: was like uh oh, and I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: got all the sales. I had a wedding to go, like,
Speaker 1: I needed to buy stuff for all these events and
Speaker 1: I had. I got to hit up all the sales,
Speaker 1: eat Starbucks for breakfast, and walk around the mall and
Speaker 1: it was like a dream.
Speaker 2: I would have just assumed it would be packed, but
Speaker 2: I guess it's like the world's biggest or like the
Speaker 2: biggest mall that it's probably not as packed as like
Speaker 2: a regular size mall.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and there's tons to do there. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't believe this was a server at a place
Speaker 1: that I know. This is like crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So this server had become acquainted with a California based
Speaker 2: comedian named Adam Scott Richmond, who has been seen on
Speaker 2: NBC's Last Comic Standing, as he had headlined that club
Speaker 2: various times over a five year period, and over the years,
Speaker 2: I guess he had allegedly hit on her a bunch
Speaker 2: of times. And then on the date of this assault,
Speaker 2: she agreed to let Richmond come to her house after
Speaker 2: the comedy show for a few drinks, and she told
Speaker 2: him she had no romantic interest in him, and then
Speaker 2: the two of them drank in her house with two
Speaker 2: of her roommates for a little while. He made inappropriate
Speaker 2: comments to her, grabbed her, and she denied him repeatedly
Speaker 2: and punched him, and then her roommates want to sleep.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't want a victim blame, but
Speaker 2: it's like, get the guy out of there before the
Speaker 2: roommates go to sleep. Anyway, after they went to sleep,
Speaker 2: he became aggressive, touched her inappropriately, told her he quote
Speaker 2: wanted to quote make love to her. She punched him
Speaker 2: several times, told him to leave, and called a cab
Speaker 2: for him. And then in the complain in the official
Speaker 2: A complaint, it says Richmond knocked her to the ground,
Speaker 2: reached up her dress and touched her inappropriately, also exposed
Speaker 2: himself to her, and that she pushed him away, and
Speaker 2: that he finally just took off in the taxi that
Speaker 2: she'd called for him, so police then caught up with
Speaker 2: him at his Ramada Hotel room and arrested him, and
Speaker 2: he told police he was quote maybe a little aggressive.
Speaker 2: I tried to kiss her, I might have grabbed her
Speaker 2: end quote, and police said Richmond also had a blood
Speaker 2: alcohol level of zero point one point seven at the time,
Speaker 2: so he was quite drunk, and he admitted to police
Speaker 2: that he exposed himself to the woman and wrestled her
Speaker 2: to the ground, thinking it was flirtatious. He was charged
Speaker 2: with one count of fourth degree criminal sexual conduct and
Speaker 2: one count of third degree attempted criminal sexual conduct, and
Speaker 2: if he was convicted of both of those, he would
Speaker 2: have received twenty five years in prison or up to
Speaker 2: twenty five years in prison in fifty thousand dollars in fines.
Speaker 2: But as usual, men get away with everything, and at
Speaker 2: his trial, Richmond asked for a bench trial instead of
Speaker 2: a jury trial, and then the judge, Daniel Maybley, said
Speaker 2: that both parties were drunk, and they were there were
Speaker 2: inconsistencies in the story, so in both of their stories.
Speaker 2: So in June of twenty fourteen, he was acquitted and
Speaker 2: I went on it.
Speaker 1: I also admitted like to the police. He admitted to
Speaker 1: being aggressive and grabbing her and wrestling her. Like, he
Speaker 1: admitted to that, so he thought it was like flirtatious
Speaker 1: and so I guess they thought it didn't constitute assault,
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: I thought he would have gotten something. And his website.
Speaker 2: I went to his website. It said he had tour
Speaker 2: dates in Japan and Korea in February. So I'm not
Speaker 2: sure what he's up to.
Speaker 1: Beyond that.
Speaker 2: We have forty six Facebook friends in common, and his
Speaker 2: last tweets are supporting Elon Musk and complaining about the
Speaker 2: release of Britney Griner. So this guy is fucking horrible.
Speaker 2: He's like a sleeze. And then I went on his
Speaker 2: Instagram and I was like, ugh, Like he's just gross.
Speaker 2: But I think this case got a little bit of traction.
Speaker 2: I could have seen a couple I could have seen
Speaker 2: some of the writers of this show maybe catch Honestly,
Speaker 2: when you google it, there's so few articles about it.
Speaker 2: But I could see some like New York City writers
Speaker 2: catching the wind of this story and having it be
Speaker 2: like part of what happened with like like folding it
Speaker 2: into like the Toash stuff too. You know, because I
Speaker 2: don't think anybody's ever accused Daniel Tasha of being a rapist,
Speaker 2: so they kind of combined stories.
Speaker 1: No, I actually but I did used to kickbox and
Speaker 1: the teacher used to date Toash. Oh really yeah it
Speaker 1: was thrilling and she was very hot and I you know,
Speaker 1: hard classes at the Export Fitness in Old Town. I
Speaker 1: mean very long time ago. Wait, this guy is a creep.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know.
Speaker 2: Like his fucking inst like his Facebook, his tweet about
Speaker 2: like he was like, oh, so we're gonna bring Britney
Speaker 2: Grinder home, who doesn't even love her country in exchange
Speaker 2: for this murder.
Speaker 1: Like you know, the.
Speaker 2: People that were like like criticizing Brittany Grinder's release, like,
Speaker 2: fucking this man seems horrible.
Speaker 1: But I just can't believe he was charged for anything.
Speaker 1: I know. I know, but he admitted to stuff.
Speaker 2: I know, he admitted to, like the aggressiveness, but maybe
Speaker 2: it didn't, like, you know, measure up to like the charges.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Damn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he is acquitted and he's on the road
Speaker 2: and maybe he only performs like abroad where people don't
Speaker 2: know or whatever, like because I couldn't really see his
Speaker 2: schedule beyond that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's uh, not so good. But we've got
Speaker 1: a great matress is okay too? Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2: We got a great guest for you guys though, So
Speaker 2: don't go anywhere you're gonna be impressed, you guys. I
Speaker 2: am so pumped about today's guests. To me, he belongs
Speaker 2: in the Comedic Actor Hall of Fame. You know him
Speaker 2: best from films like Little Big League, Brighton Beach Memoirs,
Speaker 2: and The iconic Weekend at Bernie's. Also the lead on
Speaker 2: the NBC comedy that I watched, The Single Guy, But
Speaker 2: you know him today as rape joke comedian and literal
Speaker 2: rapist Josh Galloway. Please enjoy our conversation with the very
Speaker 2: talented Jonathan Silverman. First of all, you know you are
Speaker 2: an icon of my youth, like all the movies like
Speaker 2: I used to watch The Single Guy, I mean, Weekend
Speaker 2: at Bernie's, all the stuff you were in, like you
Speaker 2: were like a star to me and when I was
Speaker 2: growing up, and still I was gagged when we got you.
Speaker 2: But I also wanted to let you know that in
Speaker 2: New York there's this show. We're both stand up comedians,
Speaker 2: me and Lisa and there's this show in New York
Speaker 2: that they do around Halloween that's called Shtick or Treat,
Speaker 2: and it's where comedians dress up as other comedians and
Speaker 2: they do like two minutes of material like as them,
Speaker 2: and people come and watch it and it's funny. So
Speaker 2: I had done other people. I had done Ellen Degenerous,
Speaker 2: Whitney Cummings, and then the year that this episode came out,
Speaker 2: I dressed as fictional rape comic Josh Galloway and I
Speaker 2: love you for this show.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. And if you have any photos or
Speaker 3: videos of this moment.
Speaker 1: I don't think I do. I don't think I have.
Speaker 4: Any Videosfortunate and really twisty.
Speaker 1: I know. I was like, I was like, this was
Speaker 1: well I wasn't there, but Kara said, she goes. Those
Speaker 1: who got it got it, and a lot of people
Speaker 1: were a lot of people were like wait what, and
Speaker 1: then a lot of but then I think the people
Speaker 1: that didn't get it were like, oh, I get it.
Speaker 1: She's doing like a commentary on like the comics that
Speaker 1: do rape jokes, and I was like, well, I'm the
Speaker 1: commentary on SBU's commentary of comics that you rape jokes.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's my little story.
Speaker 2: So like you are, but you're this like long time
Speaker 2: comedic actor. Have you ever done stand up before you
Speaker 2: did this episode of the show.
Speaker 4: No, No, I admire the art form of stand up
Speaker 4: comedy so much. Some of my best friend is actually
Speaker 4: my very best friend, was a beloved stand up.
Speaker 3: But I knew what I could never. I don't want
Speaker 3: to say never.
Speaker 4: I knew would be a very difficult transition to make,
Speaker 4: so I far preferred observing and watching and enjoying than
Speaker 4: being a stand up. I've certainly, I've hosted many events.
Speaker 4: I've am seen many.
Speaker 3: Events, which I.
Speaker 4: Hate doing with such a passion. But I come from
Speaker 4: such a nice Jewish family, and my dad and grandfather
Speaker 4: were rabbis, And when people ask me to do stuff,
Speaker 4: I say yes, especially for charity. But no, I've never
Speaker 4: done stand up and when I when.
Speaker 3: I got this offer.
Speaker 4: First of all, Warren Light is an old is an
Speaker 4: old friend and more and what's the I don't have
Speaker 4: to tell you, guys, but he ran the show for forever,
Speaker 4: and Mariska is a friend of mine for thirty plus. Yes,
Speaker 4: speaking of the single guy she was, she did about
Speaker 4: three episodes of The Single Guy she was a character
Speaker 4: also a policewoman. She was a character called Mounted Cup
Speaker 4: and I believe Marishka was shooting on the same lot
Speaker 4: we were doing the Single Guy, And whenever this character
Speaker 4: would appear, it was mostly whenever we would do like,
Speaker 4: you know, the outside stuff, which would all take place
Speaker 4: on the lot anyway, the same place where they did
Speaker 4: all of you know, Seinfeld's exteriors on New York Street
Speaker 4: in Central Park. We would always say, hey, Risk, are
Speaker 4: you available? Can you can you come Thursday at like,
Speaker 4: you know, five pm and you know, do this one
Speaker 4: quick scene with us. So anyway, sorry. So when Warren
Speaker 4: took over the show, he kindly asked me to do
Speaker 4: a handful of episodes. One I was in Vancouver shooting,
Speaker 4: one I was shooting nearby, and I just couldn't make
Speaker 4: the dates work. So I think this was the third
Speaker 4: or fourth time that he asked me to do it.
Speaker 4: So I said, without even reading it when old I said, yes,
Speaker 4: of course, I'm available.
Speaker 3: March twentieth or a wee, I'm there, Warren, I'm there.
Speaker 3: I didn't even care what it is. I'm there.
Speaker 4: He says, Oh, but you're gonna like it even if
Speaker 4: I don't like it, Warren, I'm going to do it.
Speaker 4: And then I read it and went, oh, fuck, this
Speaker 4: this is I don't know if I could pull this off.
Speaker 4: Rapist who seemed to suck to me and then the
Speaker 4: Lord knows what and saying all these things and uh
Speaker 4: it neils to say it was a stand up comedy bit.
Speaker 4: And and like I just mentioned, I have no I
Speaker 4: have no you know, reference of ever doing this. So
Speaker 4: I asked my dear friend who was a stand up
Speaker 4: for some points and and and tips and and uh
Speaker 4: he helped me tremendously. But man, it was a it
Speaker 4: was a hard well just just doing the stand up,
Speaker 4: just the first I guess that first monologue where the
Speaker 4: show opens was terribly difficult.
Speaker 3: Let alone, you know, Oh.
Speaker 4: Here comes the nudity and the raping and the bang
Speaker 4: that that that that was equally difficult.
Speaker 3: But wow, it was a good episode of television.
Speaker 1: It was really good. And the the bit that was
Speaker 1: really great is when you're like, rape's not funny, but
Speaker 1: gang rape is? That is a great That was a great.
Speaker 4: Bit because because three if you if you do it
Speaker 4: in three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, from comedy. It was good. It was really funny
Speaker 1: when the cops did sit right in the front row.
Speaker 1: Marishka was a bad audience member. But and that that
Speaker 1: was filmed at the comic strip on the Upper East Side,
Speaker 1: right that I used to form there all the time.
Speaker 1: You did, I recommend recognized it immediately.
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's it's it's funny or sad. At
Speaker 3: the same time.
Speaker 4: I probably get stopped or you know, recognized every other
Speaker 4: week by someone for this one episode of.
Speaker 3: The show that has run twenty some odd seasons.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's h it's it's It's interesting how many
Speaker 4: people have watched that that particular episode and recognized me
Speaker 4: from it, And you know, their first.
Speaker 3: Reaction is like, oh, you were so great. It was
Speaker 3: usually oh my god, you're just so disgusting your file.
Speaker 1: Nice job. Wait, there is another funny part I wrote
Speaker 1: down that I really liked you call iced t jay Z,
Speaker 1: which is very funny too.
Speaker 4: Really, thank you the the the producers were kind enough
Speaker 4: to let have some fun with the with the script
Speaker 4: as much as possible, And I'm usually incredibly loyal to
Speaker 4: the writer's words.
Speaker 3: Especially when it's a friend.
Speaker 4: But I think because the role was that of a
Speaker 4: of a comic, they kind of encouraged me to go
Speaker 4: off book as much as possible and make make it seem,
Speaker 4: you know, as as fresh, especially this particular character who's
Speaker 4: just you know, awful and disgusting. And I do remember
Speaker 4: asking the director and producer before I said that, I said,
Speaker 4: may I may I call him a couple And we
Speaker 4: tried a bunch of different things.
Speaker 3: Jay Z was the one that stuck.
Speaker 4: But my god, I mean, I think fifty cent and
Speaker 4: Vanilla Ice, every everything but Iced.
Speaker 3: He's actual actually. But the strange.
Speaker 4: Thing is everything was happening so fast, and it was
Speaker 4: it was shot you know, on a steady cam, and
Speaker 4: there was you know, a lobby full of extras, and
Speaker 4: people were screaming and yelling, and I was handcuffed.
Speaker 3: And you know, being being processed.
Speaker 4: And uh, I don't think he ever knew that I
Speaker 4: wasn't calling him by his actual character name, or that
Speaker 4: I was saying something because he was waiting for his cue,
Speaker 4: and his cue had nothing to do with jay Z
Speaker 4: or Ice, you know, or ice Cube or any of
Speaker 4: the other ones I might have come up with.
Speaker 1: So ice Cube a funny one our listeners mix up
Speaker 1: Ice Team with ice cubes.
Speaker 4: I would have liked that, so I was waiting for
Speaker 4: I was waiting for him to punch me or say something,
Speaker 4: but you never caught on.
Speaker 1: So well, I guess we can slowly go into So, yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole episode serious, but you know it is fun.
Speaker 1: All your lines are so funny. And then the last scene,
Speaker 1: the attempted rape, is really uncomfortable to watch. It is
Speaker 1: really graphic. How was filming it? How was doing it?
Speaker 1: And then if you did watch it, how was it is?
Speaker 1: Really it's an intense scene. You guys did a great
Speaker 1: job filming it.
Speaker 4: Thanks it's certainly it certainly wasn't fun. Actually, man, that
Speaker 4: was a rough one. I do remember, uh shooting it
Speaker 4: and feeling so awful, almost ill, almost nauseous, and getting
Speaker 4: back to my hotel room, which I want to say
Speaker 4: was in the same hotel where we shot. So, I mean,
Speaker 4: all I had to do was push you know, Flora
Speaker 4: thirty three, and I was I was home. But that
Speaker 4: was just like the longest ride of my life. And
Speaker 4: my wife had just come from we live in La
Speaker 4: to visit and you know, she probably had a great.
Speaker 3: Day and probably you know, saw Matinee and.
Speaker 4: Skyler Day, the actress who was in the episode, who
Speaker 4: you know was my scene partner was so lovely and every.
Speaker 3: Time, and everything was obviously choreographed.
Speaker 4: And this was before they had those you know, those coordinators,
Speaker 4: the intimacy coordinators. I mean, it was just us trying
Speaker 4: to figure out the beats on our own with the director,
Speaker 4: but everything was done with you know, her approval, and
Speaker 4: you know, she was even telling me, Okay, you can
Speaker 4: go a step farther, you can go.
Speaker 3: A bit harder. It was. It was awful. It was
Speaker 3: just awful because I.
Speaker 4: Mean, I know, when I do, uh a fight scene,
Speaker 4: even if I'm the one getting the shit kicked out
Speaker 4: of me and having to take a punch, I'm always
Speaker 4: so concerned about my seeing partner and make sure, you know,
Speaker 4: I hope your hand didn't hurt so much when you
Speaker 4: slug me in the face. But this was something I
Speaker 4: just wasn't comfortable with, wasn't prepared for. And the after
Speaker 4: effect was was kind of awful too. And yeah, watching
Speaker 4: it was was pretty disgusting too. I do remember kind
Speaker 4: of wanting that scene to just, you know, end even
Speaker 4: quicker than the editors had played it.
Speaker 3: But good stuff. It was good for the It was good.
Speaker 3: It was good for the real I think that show.
Speaker 4: I think that show has helped book me a couple
Speaker 4: of gigs over the years, because like, oh yeah, Solomon,
Speaker 4: he's he's funny, but you know, can he can he
Speaker 4: go dark? Does he have a dark side? It's like, yes,
Speaker 4: do you want to see something?
Speaker 3: And there you go.
Speaker 1: Well, how was working with Elizabeth Marvel who played your lawyer?
Speaker 1: We love her?
Speaker 4: Oh god, she is dying on my she is so
Speaker 4: so lovely. And I remember one but the particular time
Speaker 4: of year we were shooting this h this episode, it
Speaker 4: was a giant blizzard. There's a name for it, like
Speaker 4: you guys just had one in New York, the Super Blizzard,
Speaker 4: the the oh yeah, it was twenty four tech artic tornado,
Speaker 4: the vortex.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Yes, she was twenty fourteen.
Speaker 4: It was the end of January, I guess, and it
Speaker 4: was the winter vortex and New York shot down. I
Speaker 4: mean there were there were oftentimes scenes that were supposed
Speaker 4: to take place outside that they just had to scrap filming,
Speaker 4: and then you know, we shot some interiors.
Speaker 3: But I do remember.
Speaker 4: Schools were closed and Elizabeth didn't know what to do
Speaker 4: with her seven year old son.
Speaker 3: So she brought she brought them to.
Speaker 4: Set, and there was this sweet kid, you know, all
Speaker 4: day long just hanging out with mom and you know,
Speaker 4: having to watch scenes with her with.
Speaker 3: This jerky guy. And but he's terrific. He's just terrific.
Speaker 3: He's lovely. Lady.
Speaker 2: That characters represented a lot of jerks on the show.
Speaker 2: But I don't think she's ever told any of them
Speaker 2: to shut up, like.
Speaker 1: She stop talking. So your wife is also an actress,
Speaker 1: Jennifer Finnigan, and we have a classic question we like
Speaker 1: to ask when spouses are both actors. Okay, so for
Speaker 1: auditions and stuff like, do you guys help each other
Speaker 1: tape stuff? Are you reading lines together? Do you guys
Speaker 1: fight while you read lines? What's what's the process.
Speaker 4: The answer to all of those questions, Yes, pre pandemic, Yeah,
Speaker 4: for sure, we would always help run lines with one another.
Speaker 4: We'd always give each other notes. You know, we're both
Speaker 4: longtime actors. We're also directors. We even directed together on
Speaker 4: a film, so we certainly appreciate each other's you know,
Speaker 4: guidance and wisdom and you know, try this, here's a
Speaker 4: little chance to you know, here's something you missed. But
Speaker 4: since the pandemic and since everything now tapes from home. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we're each other's you know, director, cameraman, lighting coordinator. So yeah,
Speaker 4: there's there's oftentimes where we're equippaling, and you know, unlike
Speaker 4: previous years when you would have a set appointment at
Speaker 4: noon in Santa Monica and go to the casting office
Speaker 4: or the production office, you know, you're doing it from home.
Speaker 3: And we have a five year old, So.
Speaker 4: Oftentimes when we do these, it's you know, at nine, ten,
Speaker 4: eleven o'clock at night, once we finally get the kid
Speaker 4: to sleep and there's a little bit of quiet in
Speaker 4: the house and you know, we're both.
Speaker 3: Exhausted or we've had a glass of wine at this point.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we're certainly fighting with each other.
Speaker 4: It's like, come on, you really need this tonight, of
Speaker 4: all nights, you get to do it now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: This this this came out because I was like helping
Speaker 1: my friend who's married tape and I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: why don't you do another one? And she goes, wait
Speaker 1: really And I was like, yeah, like why don't you
Speaker 1: just try it? And she goes, oh, usually he doesn't
Speaker 1: let me do more. I was like, oh, wait, what's
Speaker 1: going on? And so that like started the fascination of like,
Speaker 1: what's going on with all these couples taping? Yeah?
Speaker 4: It usually, it usually is very helpful, except obviously when
Speaker 4: one of us is off out of town working on
Speaker 4: a gig, and then you're absolutely desperate. I remember once
Speaker 4: Jen was in Toronto and I had this kind of
Speaker 4: big audition. I had to to get in and I
Speaker 4: could reach out to some actor friends and get it done.
Speaker 3: So the sixty some on year old nanny who was
Speaker 3: taken her broat.
Speaker 4: That particular day, can you stay an extra thirty minutes.
Speaker 4: I'll still pay your rate, but you just you just
Speaker 4: like press this record button and read some of these lines.
Speaker 3: And she was great, she was terrific.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: I don't think I booked the part though, but she had.
Speaker 4: She had a really good time, and she kept asking
Speaker 4: me days days later, did we get it? Did we
Speaker 4: put it?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. They want you. They don't want me,
Speaker 3: but they want you. Who's that woman?
Speaker 1: I imagine you launched her career. If your kid interested
Speaker 1: in what you guys do or not at all?
Speaker 3: Sadly, she's very interested. I mean, we've drabbed this court kid.
Speaker 4: She's probably been I'm not joking on sixty or seventy
Speaker 4: plane flights by now and when we were. My wife
Speaker 4: stars on this new show which is finally going to
Speaker 4: hit US television. So May May eighteenth, the CW will
Speaker 4: announce that they have bought this shine right. Yes, it's
Speaker 4: it's made specifically for Canada, the CBC and E one
Speaker 4: and Netflix Canada, which I mean me by no means
Speaker 4: comparing the show to the show I'm about to name drop.
Speaker 4: But it's done by the same people that did Shit's Creak,
Speaker 4: and that until season three or four, did not air
Speaker 4: in the States either. So you know, we're rolling the
Speaker 4: dice and hoping for you know, just like five percent
Speaker 4: of the success that happens that that show had. But yes,
Speaker 4: it's finally going to start airing. And when we shot
Speaker 4: season one, it was pretty much just as the pandemic
Speaker 4: was starting. It was just a few months into it.
Speaker 4: I think it was the first show on the continent
Speaker 4: to begin filming. So we were kind of, you know,
Speaker 4: being looked at as like, well, if they could pull
Speaker 4: it off, maybe we could get back to show business
Speaker 4: and do it too. We were all sequestered and quarantine
Speaker 4: for weeks at the time, we'd all have to.
Speaker 3: Stay in our little, you know pocket.
Speaker 4: One of the cool things is Aaron Dark is a
Speaker 4: regular on the show, and her life partner is Daniel Radcliffe.
Speaker 4: So so Daniel was hanging out with us for three
Speaker 4: summers and having just the greatest time. But they were
Speaker 4: very much in need of actors, which is probably why
Speaker 4: I'm on the show playing Jen's husband. But it got
Speaker 4: to the point where there was a flashback episode. It's
Speaker 4: the second to last show of season one, and my
Speaker 4: wife Jen's character is maybe three years old, and there
Speaker 4: was like five or six scenes where a three year
Speaker 4: old Jen Finn again is supposed to be, you know,
Speaker 4: running around and saying a couple of lines and you know,
Speaker 4: just being a kid. And I guess, Canada being Canada,
Speaker 4: they hired these twins, and oftentimes when you.
Speaker 3: Have a role that young, you'll you'll split it by having,
Speaker 3: you know, a twins play the part.
Speaker 4: They showed up to set and they were not blonde
Speaker 4: hair and blue eyed like my wife looks.
Speaker 3: They were very very tart skinned, dark haired, and they're like,
Speaker 3: what do we do? What do we do?
Speaker 4: And and so they begged us if they could borrow
Speaker 4: our kid for those three four days were absolutely not.
Speaker 4: This poor kid's going to be screwed up enough as
Speaker 4: it is, you want to put her in front of
Speaker 4: the cameras.
Speaker 3: But we asked her and of course she said.
Speaker 4: Yes, I wanted to do what mommy and daddy do
Speaker 4: and we were terrified, but she nailed it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, she already has a pretty big credit to her.
Speaker 1: She has an IMDb page.
Speaker 3: She probably has a I and a lot of fans. Y.
Speaker 1: Wait, so what's Moonshine about?
Speaker 4: Moonshine is a wonderful one hour comedy drama about this uh,
Speaker 4: this this dilapidated resorts and the family that runs it
Speaker 4: and owns it uh in the south shore of Nova Scotia.
Speaker 4: It's uh, it's it's it's it's filthy and funny and twisted,
Speaker 4: and it's it's a delight.
Speaker 3: And the the the awards.
Speaker 4: The Canadian Screen Awards, they're called, and the only way
Speaker 4: to compare them, it's like the Canadian Golden Globes because
Speaker 4: they're both for movies and television. We're just announced recently
Speaker 4: and the show got a slew of them, including including
Speaker 4: my wife Best Best Lead Performer. So yeah, we're hoping
Speaker 4: We're hoping it somehow takes off in the has A
Speaker 4: has a nice happy life.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so cool. I can't wait. Well, well, definitely
Speaker 1: all of our listeners will probably.
Speaker 3: Check get in mom shne CW. I guess this summer.
Speaker 1: That's exciting. So that's your current that's your some of
Speaker 1: your current projects. I would like to ask you a
Speaker 1: question about going back to some of your old older stuff.
Speaker 1: So you, to me, you were like, like I said,
Speaker 1: you were like this pinnacle of like eighties and nineties
Speaker 1: classic stuff, like you're in all these amazing TV shows
Speaker 1: and then the single guy was part of Mussy TV.
Speaker 1: I think Sandwich between like Seinfeld and Friends or something,
Speaker 1: I mean like Wild Yes, and then you were on
Speaker 1: Friends and you're like friends with David Swimmer if your
Speaker 1: Wikipedia is to be believed. So, like I'm just wondering,
Speaker 1: like what was that time like in like the late
Speaker 1: eighties early nineties, when like TV was like everyone was
Speaker 1: watching TV. There was still a mono culture where everyone
Speaker 1: watched the same TV shows, unlike today, Like what was like,
Speaker 1: what was it like Caroline in the City, I mean
Speaker 1: all that come on?
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you're right.
Speaker 4: They oftentimes you know, would have these crossover nights which
Speaker 4: were ridiculous, but you know we did.
Speaker 1: We did. A character was on Caroline in the City, right,
Speaker 1: but it's not a spin off, Okay, right.
Speaker 4: So I think me and Matthew Perry were on Caroline
Speaker 4: in the City. Shwimmer was on our show, and I
Speaker 4: don't remember. I think I think maybe Leah Thompson was
Speaker 4: on Friends. And of course when they asked Jerry and
Speaker 4: everyone on Seinfeld to do it, They're like, no, fuck off,
Speaker 4: we got our own show. What are these shows? Friends?
Speaker 3: But in terms of your question, I mean, I guess A.
Speaker 4: I was naive, it was stupid. I just assumed. I
Speaker 4: started in theater. I mean, my so fucking lucky. My
Speaker 4: first my first paying gig was a Broadway show which
Speaker 4: I did for like two years.
Speaker 1: What was it?
Speaker 3: And that it was a Neil Simon play called Brighton
Speaker 3: Beach Memoirs.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought, Well that, I mean, I just
Speaker 1: saw production at Northwestern University when I was a kid
Speaker 1: with my family and it was like, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: like cheesy, but it changed my life. Like I remember
Speaker 1: that show was like the best thing ever. And I'm
Speaker 1: a Russian Jew. My family like I don't know. I
Speaker 1: love that show, and I know you did the film,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that was cool. You did that on Broadway.
Speaker 3: It changed my life too different ways.
Speaker 4: But yeah, and and God blessed and the rest of sould.
Speaker 4: Neil Simon kept giving me more and more jobs, and
Speaker 4: I did a few more of his plays and a
Speaker 4: few more of his movie and then I came back
Speaker 4: to LA and I was only doing movies. And then
Speaker 4: I just thought, oh, TV, that's is that something that
Speaker 4: people do?
Speaker 3: Is that? I mean, maybe when I'm.
Speaker 4: Old and lost my hair and really fat, maybe that's
Speaker 4: when I do TV. But I did a movie for
Speaker 4: Castle Rock, and it was so much fun. It was
Speaker 4: a baseball movie. And I'm a huge, huge, still I'm
Speaker 4: a huge baseball fan. And I played a pitcher for
Speaker 4: the Minnesota Twins, and every day going to work meant
Speaker 4: putting on a uniform and going to the stadium. And
Speaker 4: they had so much money at their disposal they would
Speaker 4: bring in actual baseball players to play themselves. So these
Speaker 4: names might not mean too much, but to me, they
Speaker 4: sure do, and as so many baseball fans, they do.
Speaker 4: But here's Ken Griffy Junior playing himself, and I get
Speaker 4: to pitch to him, and he's now in the Hall
Speaker 4: of Fame, and every day there would be a new
Speaker 4: there would be a new you know, all star coming
Speaker 4: to work.
Speaker 3: And so I completed this film.
Speaker 4: We shot it in Minnesota, and my agent said, Hey,
Speaker 4: the folks at Castle Rock want to have a chat
Speaker 4: with you. And I said, Am I getting like kicked
Speaker 4: out of the movie? Are they cutting my scenes that
Speaker 4: I suck? You?
Speaker 3: But no, I think it's good news.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure exactly what it is, but let's just
Speaker 4: take the meeting and see what's happening.
Speaker 3: And so I go there and they were watching the
Speaker 3: footage and.
Speaker 4: The dailies of this this this baseball movie, and they said,
Speaker 4: you know, we really, we really want to work with you.
Speaker 3: And I said, well, great, I want to work with
Speaker 3: you guys too. What movie are we going to do? Now?
Speaker 3: Are you going to put me in a rub writer film?
Speaker 3: I didn't say that. I was probably quiet, but they
Speaker 3: said no.
Speaker 4: But we basically, in our deal negotiating Seinfeld's next season,
Speaker 4: we own the time slot and we have access to
Speaker 4: the eight thirty slot or the nine thirty slot for
Speaker 4: next season, and we want you to be in it.
Speaker 4: And I went on television and so, yeah, so they
Speaker 4: put me together with a lovely writer named Brad Hall,
Speaker 4: who ironically is Julia Louis Dreyfus's husband.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, and the single guy was born in the boom.
Speaker 4: Before I knew it, I was starring on a TV
Speaker 4: show that was number five in the country, and I
Speaker 4: really had no idea what was happening. But it was
Speaker 4: a roller coaster. And now, of course, you know, there's
Speaker 4: really no differentiator differentiating to television and movies, and all
Speaker 4: these giant Oscar winners are clamoring to do a show
Speaker 4: for Apple Plus and HBO and Times of Change.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the golden age of television is upon us. Indeed,
Speaker 1: So I wanted to ask about Weekend at Bernie's, which
Speaker 1: is at this point now twenty five, twenty four years
Speaker 1: old this movie or no, thirty, no, how many years
Speaker 1: I'm like not doing the math correctly. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: thirty years old.
Speaker 4: Yeah, who were so Yeah, you're righty, they're almost thirty
Speaker 4: five years old.
Speaker 1: But it's still like that's a people it's still a reference.
Speaker 1: People are still like, oh yeah, then they just weakend
Speaker 1: Bernie's this guy around or whatever, like it's such a
Speaker 1: big movie like that, it's one of your first things
Speaker 1: that you do and then it becomes this like huge movie,
Speaker 1: Like what's do you just never want to talk about it?
Speaker 1: Or are you do you welcome people that are fans
Speaker 1: of it?
Speaker 3: Or what I mean?
Speaker 4: What am I gonna say? Yes, it was one of
Speaker 4: my first movies. I was lucky to get the job.
Speaker 4: I had no idea, none of us had an ideas
Speaker 4: it would even be funny.
Speaker 3: I mean, the.
Speaker 4: Premise is this guy is killed and we've got to
Speaker 4: prop them up and pretend he's not dead.
Speaker 3: That's not funny.
Speaker 4: But somehow, somehow it worked, and I remember the movie
Speaker 4: came out and it did okay but not great. It
Speaker 4: just did okay and it just kind of had it
Speaker 4: had some legs that lasted through the summer.
Speaker 3: But then it was this life on cable and on airplane.
Speaker 2: Where I saw it, like it was an HBO classic
Speaker 2: for me, like I can quote lines from it, and
Speaker 2: it came out when I was nine, so like I
Speaker 2: remember like just seeing it on HBO all all the time.
Speaker 3: Again, thrilled to it had a life. Thrilled people are
Speaker 3: still watching it and remembering it, So I was.
Speaker 1: I was an immigrant. I was like a Russian jew
Speaker 1: came in the night, so I it like missed me.
Speaker 1: And so I actually just watched it for the first
Speaker 1: time during the pandemic and I had a great time.
Speaker 1: So it was like new to me only a few
Speaker 1: years ago. And yeah, it's like an enjoyable great time.
Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, all these references of
Speaker 1: like okay, I'm come alive in my brain, like there's
Speaker 1: a sim sense episode, Like there's all these things that
Speaker 1: now make more sense to me too.
Speaker 4: And they're all these strange little, you know, memes and graphics.
Speaker 4: Anytime mostly a world world leader is ill to be,
Speaker 4: it's like there you go and me and are holding
Speaker 4: this man or woman up?
Speaker 2: Do you still Are you still in touch with Andrew McCarthy,
Speaker 2: another SVU alum as well.
Speaker 3: Absolutely? You know Andrew is a big time television director
Speaker 3: these days. Oh wow, he he.
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's directed any SVUS, but he
Speaker 4: directs every other show that shoots in New York. He
Speaker 4: directs Blacklist, and he directs a lot of Our Good
Speaker 4: direct a lot of Orange is the New Black We
Speaker 4: were both on as actors, and and he also directed
Speaker 4: a few episodes though, But we were both on last season,
Speaker 4: the final season of Good Girls, which was a gig
Speaker 4: that I just loved, and we were in a couple
Speaker 4: of episodes, but they purposely made sure we didn't have
Speaker 4: any scenes together because that would have been too weird.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I adore him, and I mean he he
Speaker 4: really he really made that film successful because he was
Speaker 4: certainly not known for doing slapstick comedy and he just
Speaker 4: wanted to jump in with both feet and he did it.
Speaker 4: Was he was great and constantly coming up with amazing
Speaker 4: ideas and I so looked up to him because I
Speaker 4: had like maybe three jobs to my credit, and here
Speaker 4: was this big movie star from you know, all these great,
Speaker 4: you know, classic classic films, and yeah, I learned a
Speaker 4: lot from them.
Speaker 3: I really did.
Speaker 1: This is awesome. Thank you so much, Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for taking the time.
Speaker 3: Thank you, this was so fun. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Okay, Jonathan, that was fun.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to watch that show that he's coming out
Speaker 2: with with his wife. If he says it's like Shit's
Speaker 2: Creak vibes, I really liked Shitz Creak, So I'm going
Speaker 2: to keep an eye out for that.
Speaker 1: Kelly and his house was nice. It looks like he's
Speaker 1: living a good, happy life with his cool wife and
Speaker 1: working and crushing it. Crushing this episode. And he's just
Speaker 1: so good in it. I mean, he's so funny. I
Speaker 1: love his rifts. It look like you could tell he
Speaker 1: put work in the stand up portions of it. And
Speaker 1: the attack was like very hard to watch, like really
Speaker 1: funny and scary and a pompous jerk all in one episode.
Speaker 1: It was amazing. Yeah, and it didn't grow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did a really great job of being like
Speaker 2: I can understand why this guy has a following, but
Speaker 2: also I want to kill him.
Speaker 1: Like half the time I wanted to punch him so bad.
Speaker 2: But I think that's like definitely, especially when we look
Speaker 2: at like the one example of the real life crime,
Speaker 2: the guy who won Star Search or whatever. Oh clean guy,
Speaker 2: perfect guy, and then behind this like on the other
Speaker 2: side of him, he's this horrible criminal. So yeah, showing
Speaker 2: the two sides said this in an episode.
Speaker 1: There are people who are just goodie two shoes. There
Speaker 1: are comics who that is their natural way to be
Speaker 1: is a little more prude or like just sweet, like
Speaker 1: that is who they are in nature. That is great
Speaker 1: be a clean comedian. It's the ones that are hiding
Speaker 1: their truth for the clean comedy that that are the
Speaker 1: ones to look out for. Though they're seething, they're not
Speaker 1: being who they are. They're putting on an act for
Speaker 1: what for what? Why are you hiding? Why are you
Speaker 1: hiding behind your nose? Swears It's like because you're a rapist,
Speaker 1: and it's been proven time and time again. There is
Speaker 1: like a seething rage with clean comedians who are not
Speaker 1: clean in their regular life. Yes, it's like and they
Speaker 1: might not high ground thing, they might not all be rapists,
Speaker 1: but they don't like women or they have like, you know,
Speaker 1: fucked up views and anger and rage for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. To me, stand up is so that's
Speaker 1: what I mean. If it's like your authentic self, that
Speaker 1: makes sense. Like the whole point of stand up to
Speaker 1: me is like being yourself. And so if you're putting
Speaker 1: on and uh, you know. And that's why I don't
Speaker 1: relate to certain weird things or clowns or whatever, it's
Speaker 1: not you, but you like silly stuff because I love
Speaker 1: Rury Scoville, but it is grounded in reality and he
Speaker 1: is being himself. I just like people that are authentic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could tell when it's not real. And we know
Speaker 1: lots of.
Speaker 2: People that are that are wildly famous comics who are
Speaker 2: talking about material that is not true to their life.
Speaker 2: They are using a voice that's not really how they
Speaker 2: talk in real life. Like, you know, we know plenty
Speaker 2: of people who do that. So like that's what I think.
Speaker 2: People like your stand up so much. It really is you,
Speaker 2: Like that is you on stage? You know, Like and
Speaker 2: I would say I'm pretty much the same as I
Speaker 2: am in real life as I am on stage two,
Speaker 2: but like you're not like, oh.
Speaker 1: I can't say that. It's like, if you want to
Speaker 1: say it, the point is to say it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But like did we talk We probably talked about
Speaker 2: him in the episode, but like Ryan Hamilton a wonderful,
Speaker 2: clean comic, and when I see him, I'm like, you
Speaker 2: are just like a lovely person from Utah who doesn't
Speaker 2: want to swear and doesn't want to talk about like
Speaker 2: you know, sex and drugs and whatever, like and great.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think he's.
Speaker 2: I mean famous last words, We're gonna find out Ryan
Speaker 2: Hamilton convenience.
Speaker 1: He's number one, because you know, I like to make
Speaker 1: lists with friends, and the hardest list that we would
Speaker 1: try to make is the one that was tap ten comedians.
Speaker 1: You would be shocked if they were rapists. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: after Ryan Hamilton, we were stumped. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: We were stumped because some I would be like, oh gosh, geez,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be surprised. I'm never you know, Josh
Speaker 1: Bondleman maybe was number two. Yeah, yeah, but that's it,
Speaker 1: like I, you know, everyone else. It might be like
Speaker 1: a like a shocking for a moment, and then it'd
Speaker 1: be like, oh, okay, yeah, I hope Jared makes the list,
Speaker 1: can you see it? He didn't. We were not thinking
Speaker 1: about when we made. This was New York years ago.
Speaker 1: Of course I'm kidding, but uh, the I mean post
Speaker 1: mortem for this, you're gonna tell him like Lisa made,
Speaker 1: Lisa said, you don't make the list. You had to
Speaker 1: work on your fucking attitude. Speaking of I guess Rolling
Speaker 1: I didn't even know everyone was talking about it last night.
Speaker 1: I was out and I was like, what are you
Speaker 1: guys even talking about? But there's a new Delilla expose
Speaker 1: and Rolling Stone, a new new FBI, new victims, new
Speaker 1: drugging like fucked up shit?
Speaker 2: What it didn't even show up anywhere one day ago
Speaker 2: Rolling Stone. Wow, okay, I'm gonna read this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll talk about it next week. I guess, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got it? Did it? Did coincide? Amazing for us
Speaker 1: taping this? The comedian rape fists? And what is that?
Speaker 1: Or isn't there one coming out almost every day? Now? Well,
Speaker 1: this is what's funny. So now I was in the
Speaker 1: green room and all these everyone was like, oh god,
Speaker 1: did you read this one? I go. I turned against
Speaker 1: him at the first one. I never even liked him
Speaker 1: because I could tell I had weird interactions with him
Speaker 1: in terms of he's a predator. Look, yeah, he truly is.
Speaker 1: And it's so funny that they needed this additional Rolling
Speaker 1: Stone FBI article. There's this is the third the La
Speaker 1: Times did one. I mean, this is like, it's.
Speaker 2: Like for all these dudes, it's like, is LA is
Speaker 2: rolling Stone cool enough for you? Is that a cool
Speaker 2: enough publication to take down your guy? Like you know,
Speaker 2: La Times is liberal bullshit? Like is Rolling Stone good enough? Like,
Speaker 2: I mean, how many exposs do you fucking need? But
Speaker 2: I mean the post mortem for this episode's a little
Speaker 2: bit baked into the entire thing because we've been talking
Speaker 2: about our personal experiences and our thoughts the entire times.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we really need to rehash it,
Speaker 2: but essentially, yeah, watch out for those, watch out for
Speaker 2: the clean ones, watch out for the nice guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But also so it's like a good test if
Speaker 1: you're going on dates, like, ask someone who their favorite
Speaker 1: comedians are and then judge them. Oh interesting, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: if you went on a date and someone took you
Speaker 1: to this rape comic, yeah, Josh Galloway's show, you'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: never mind, I'm out of here. Well, because people tell
Speaker 1: me a few people have told me that they show
Speaker 1: dates my Netflix half hour and if the men get upset,
Speaker 1: they don't get fucked. Oh if they don't like said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that, I love that.
Speaker 2: That's so great, everybody. This is how you test your men.
Speaker 2: You show them the degenerates Lisa Trager's episode.
Speaker 1: They don't get anything if they think that, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: because my last like ten minutes is just this whole
Speaker 1: joke about you know, coming and men have lost their minds. Honestly,
Speaker 1: they have attacked after show professionals. One of the biggest
Speaker 1: I think one of the biggest producers in like television
Speaker 1: comedy truly accosted me at just for last us We'll
Speaker 1: being like, I make my wife she wants to use
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, why are you telling me about
Speaker 1: your wife and how you guys fuck? It's not even
Speaker 1: the point of my joke. And then when I started
Speaker 1: talking back at him, he was like, don't you dare
Speaker 1: talk about my wife. We've been together fourteen years And
Speaker 1: I was just like, you came up to me, bro,
Speaker 1: trying to fight about my joke? Are you fighting with
Speaker 1: everyone else's joke? Why did you take it so personal?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like, I don't know why you need it
Speaker 1: to tell me that your wife loves using a vibrator,
Speaker 1: Like it's truly insane. I'm trying to meet Kaitlin o
Speaker 1: Olsen right now. That's what I'm trying to do, all right.
Speaker 1: There's heroes abound. I'm trying to drink free liquor and
Speaker 1: meet them. Like, why are you fighting me? I don't
Speaker 1: need your insecurities right now? Oh my god, men are wild. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll write his name down to But.
Speaker 2: This was obviously a fun episode for us to do,
Speaker 2: so we could talk about all our frustrations with shitty
Speaker 2: comics and also but also love comedy.
Speaker 1: But let's let's get to our what would Sister Peg do.
Speaker 2: That's our weekly segment where we direct you guys towards
Speaker 2: an organization or a you know, a resource on the
Speaker 2: internet or a book or a podcast or something that
Speaker 2: will flesh out a little bit more about what we
Speaker 2: talked about in today's episode. And you know, we touched
Speaker 2: on the comedy community today and we said, you know,
Speaker 2: not everybody's good, but we do want to point out
Speaker 2: an organization that is very good called Comedy Gives Back.
Speaker 2: This is an organization that provides financial crisis relief, mental
Speaker 2: health and chemical dependency treatment, sponsorship, and continued community support
Speaker 2: to the comedy community. So if you want to donate
Speaker 2: or find out more, go to Comedy gives Back dot com.
Speaker 2: And yeah, that's just like an organization that supports the
Speaker 2: comedy community that we believe in.
Speaker 1: So give it a look. See yeah, personally saved my
Speaker 1: ass during the pandemic. So love them, love everything they do.
Speaker 1: This is kind of like Joe's stone Crab, you know that,
Speaker 1: like you could buy a little crab glitter like Sparklepin
Speaker 1: and it goes to a fund, so if any server
Speaker 1: ever needs anything, there's a fund. Oh that's nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know it would be better for our country,
Speaker 1: hot healthy, Yeah, but yeah, comedy gives back is important,
Speaker 1: and we don't want to lose great people. We could
Speaker 1: lose a couple shitty ones. Okay, next week we're gonna
Speaker 1: do the episode diss season twenty, episode twenty two, and
Speaker 1: Karen and I will come with our own personal diss
Speaker 1: tracks at each other. So stay tuned. Bye, guys, That's
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