WEBVTT - Fat Joe: How To Be Successful After Hitting Rock Bottom & Stop Letting Failures Define You

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<v Speaker 2>I got shut up maybe thirty forty times in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>That might be scared of a gun, I might be

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<v Speaker 2>scared of a bazooka, But men, I've never been afraid

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<v Speaker 2>of men. I'm afraid of fly, so you know every

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<v Speaker 1>We got a special guest in the building, the icon

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<v Speaker 1>living Fat Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>Would be had to see where we were going to

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<v Speaker 2>put the money at. My other brother turned around and

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<v Speaker 2>told my brother, why are we even talking in front

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<v Speaker 2>of Joey. He's a half brother, and that devastated me.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Sheetty Jay Shetty Len shet Hey everyone, welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to On the Purpose, the place you come to become happier, healthier,

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<v Speaker 1>and more healed. Today's guest is someone I've been listening

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<v Speaker 1>to since I was a kid, very very grateful to

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<v Speaker 1>have on the show, the one the only someone who

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<v Speaker 1>needs no introduction. Fat Joe, Joe, Welcome to on Purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm grateful that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're here A long time coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there's been a long term coming. We did

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<v Speaker 1>a short get together connection.

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<v Speaker 2>We always knew we was going to do this sooner

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<v Speaker 2>or later. But it's honor to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm very grateful to have you here. Honestly, I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up listening to you. I was listening to you

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<v Speaker 1>this morning getting ready for the show, just to prepare

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<v Speaker 1>my mindset.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a different Fat Joe, Fat Joe, twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I listen to my music, I'm like, yo, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't even believe, like it was really Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a different time.

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<v Speaker 1>What what what's your earliest childhood memory that has defined

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<v Speaker 1>who you are today?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? Just uh, always being charismatic, always being you know,

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<v Speaker 2>from the class clown to people always loved me. I

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<v Speaker 2>always told great stories and and so when you're growing

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<v Speaker 2>up in hip hop, you know, we used to always

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<v Speaker 2>have this like mean bravado, nobody talked to nobody, everybody right,

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<v Speaker 2>And so recently I started telling stories in the last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years and everybody's like, yo, why it's a

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<v Speaker 2>great storyteller. But I always was this person. But unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>hip hop, what have you put on this facade to

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<v Speaker 2>where you can't even show people your true personality? So

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what I that's what I think coincides

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<v Speaker 2>is just I've always been this person since I was

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<v Speaker 2>a kid, and the world's just getting there is getting

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<v Speaker 2>revealed to the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why do you think that is? Why did why

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<v Speaker 1>did you have to hide yourself? What was the reason

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<v Speaker 1>for me?

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<v Speaker 2>This hip hop was just really tough. Man. When I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up, it was you know, we lost Biggie, we

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<v Speaker 2>lost pot you know, uh, you were punk. If you

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<v Speaker 2>had security, like you know, they wanted to see you

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<v Speaker 2>go through it. Unfortunately, there was a big uh stigma

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<v Speaker 2>and hip hop like if you didn't live it, then

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't We didn't respect you. And so you had

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<v Speaker 2>to live this thing out. And the last thing you

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<v Speaker 2>want to show people is that you're cool, funny dude

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<v Speaker 2>that gets along with everybody, actually loves everybody. So you

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<v Speaker 2>you had to keep that tucked away just for your uh,

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<v Speaker 2>your family and your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>But even when you were younger, you were bullied, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You went through bullying, and then I believe there were

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<v Speaker 1>even and.

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<v Speaker 2>I became a bully. So it's it's like, uh, you

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<v Speaker 2>become a product of the product. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when I was young, I was getting bullied because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been a punk. I've never been you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So twenty guys confronted me. I fight all twenty of them.

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<v Speaker 2>They beat, They'll beat the crap out of me. But

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<v Speaker 2>I always was that.

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<v Speaker 1>What were they bullying you for? At that time? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was just too much. Like So, I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up in the ninety percent black neighborhood. So the

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<v Speaker 2>way they explain this to you is the only thing

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<v Speaker 2>not black about me is my skin color. So my

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<v Speaker 2>family were there forty years before me. So when they

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<v Speaker 2>brought me home, it was like that was Joey. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I grew up at that neighborhood my whole life,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you know, that's how I grew up. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I went to my grandmother's neighborhood. It's like ninety

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<v Speaker 2>nine percent black. But they never seen a Latino like that,

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<v Speaker 2>looking like the Beatles with blonde hair and green eyes

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<v Speaker 2>and acting like and saying, you know, just coming like

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<v Speaker 2>that was a problem, Like they had a real problem

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<v Speaker 2>with that over there. They were like, yo, we're not

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<v Speaker 2>going for that over here. But I am who I am.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've always been me. I've always been true to

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<v Speaker 2>who I am. So I had a lot of problems,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And so you know bullies, you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>one gets away with it, you know, then then another

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<v Speaker 2>guy tries it. It's not necessarily that they're tough. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just to say, oh, they beat them up, Oh we

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<v Speaker 2>could beat them up, and then you know, you're just

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<v Speaker 2>the guy they beat up. And I kept telling them

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a punk. I kept telling them every time

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<v Speaker 2>they beat me up. I was like, Yo, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a punk. I'm letting y'all know. Y'all just got the

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<v Speaker 2>numbers right now, you know. And so I used to

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<v Speaker 2>get beat up for a lot of things. I used

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<v Speaker 2>to lie a lot when I was a kid. So

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<v Speaker 2>I would say stuff like yo, I was with that girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Her brother would come with five guys and be like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh you with my sister? Beat me up. So I remember,

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<v Speaker 2>I had a time I had to look in the

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<v Speaker 2>mirror when I was teenager and just be like, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>you lie a lot. Oh you got to stop, like

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<v Speaker 2>you got to you gotta keep it real because you

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<v Speaker 2>get beat up because of this. So you know, life journey,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a journey. This this the journey. Everything leads to

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<v Speaker 2>the next chapter in life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's amazing wherever you grow up, just how much

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<v Speaker 1>bullying is the norm for kids. Like even where I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up, I was bullied for the color of my

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<v Speaker 1>skin because there weren't that many Indian people in the

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<v Speaker 1>area that I grew up in. And I was bullied

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<v Speaker 1>for my weight because I was overweight growing up, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was bullied for that. It's amazing how like kids

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to make other kids life hell. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though we heard.

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<v Speaker 2>What's crazy is not criticizing the youth of today. But

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<v Speaker 2>when I see stuff like bullying and they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kids kill themselves and because they're getting body shamed or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't understand, Like, do you know what levels

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<v Speaker 2>of bullying I've been through? And I never once thought

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<v Speaker 2>of killing myself, never once, you know, I just knew

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<v Speaker 2>it was something we had to work our way through.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you know, I don't think there's never a

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<v Speaker 2>time where you kill yourself. You know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>there's never a time where you just say, yo, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to kill myself. I don't know how that comes about.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you know we're bullying. It was. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've been getting bullied in the house, you know, from

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<v Speaker 2>my father, from my family, from me. You know, we've

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<v Speaker 2>been dealing with a lot of uh pressure and trauma.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, you know your father comes only lost

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<v Speaker 2>all his money gambling drinking. He's gonna treat you like

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<v Speaker 2>shit that day, you know what I'm saying. So but

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know that, and so we had to work

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<v Speaker 2>through all that. We have to learn all that. So

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<v Speaker 2>now when I see uh my kids or other people's

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<v Speaker 2>kids complaining about something, you know, I got beat up

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<v Speaker 2>by twenty guys every single day for two years straight,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, and I never once went home and

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<v Speaker 2>told my mother I can't do it, you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think that is? Why do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that you had that tough skin, that resilience.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it was hard, well it was hard, but you

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<v Speaker 2>but you know something you had to deal with. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to go to school the next day, you

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<v Speaker 2>had to go outside the next day. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>like this where you at. You're in this environment, You're

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<v Speaker 2>either going to be predator or prey. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was always the loving, nice person I am. And

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, my skin got thick. Then I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I'm gonna be the the tough guy. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be the bully. I'm gonna show them I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna care. And then things changed, and thankfully hip hop

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<v Speaker 2>came and saved my life.

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<v Speaker 1>You said you had to in those early days make

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<v Speaker 1>some life and death choices.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I got shot at maybe thirty forty times in

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<v Speaker 2>my life, and I know somebody like you or some

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<v Speaker 2>of my friends, they can't even understand that, no for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you know, I tell people these stories now

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<v Speaker 2>and now they think I'm just lying. I just make

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<v Speaker 2>it up. But the truth is the truth. And so

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<v Speaker 2>you could imagine I was one of the toughest kids

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<v Speaker 2>in the neighborhood. I was always into something, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was very aggressive of getting money. You know, I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>aggressive of getting money. I was in six states this

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<v Speaker 2>week alone, So I'm like, you know, I've been like

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<v Speaker 2>that since I was a kid. So you know, once

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<v Speaker 2>in any neighborhood. You know, if you hear about dangerous places,

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<v Speaker 2>it always has to do with money, or with drugs

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<v Speaker 2>or with you know, and so that's why you say,

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<v Speaker 2>you say, yo, that place is so safe. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know they killing people? Why the drug game to this?

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<v Speaker 2>To that? So I've always was aggressive, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>once you show people you want money and you want

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<v Speaker 2>you want bigger things and you're willing to do whatever for,

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<v Speaker 2>it becomes more dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what were you doing for money at that time?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I was hustling, you know, I was. I was

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<v Speaker 2>really I was no different than the movies. You see,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was a guy. They were hired to go

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<v Speaker 2>beat people up. Like that's how I started in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it'd be like, yo, Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>How did they recruit you for something? Like what?

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<v Speaker 2>I know that these guys are bad guys and you

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<v Speaker 2>could pick them up. So you're drug kingpin. You're not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily tough like that. But you know, Fat Joey and them,

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<v Speaker 2>they get busy no matter what. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you coming, you say, you're Fat Joey. You've got three

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<v Speaker 2>pair of sneakers for you, you know, a jacket, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I need you go beat my competition up. So I

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<v Speaker 2>would just jump out of van and you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, apply to pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>Were scared.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's one thing God never made me. Was scared

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<v Speaker 2>of men. Right. I might be scared of a gun,

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<v Speaker 2>I might be scared of a bazooka, but men, I've

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<v Speaker 2>never been afraid of men, you know, physically, whether it

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<v Speaker 2>was one twenty thirty forty or just never been afraid

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<v Speaker 2>of men, you know, of violence or physical you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet and still I ain't get grabbed by the cartel

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<v Speaker 2>or some ship like that. You know, that's it. But

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been afraid of men. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm afraid of fly. So you know, every day I fly,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm the big I'm grabbing the old lady

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<v Speaker 2>next to me. You know, I'm the guy I take

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<v Speaker 2>all three air conditions. When when when I'm flying, I

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<v Speaker 2>grab all the three and I got it on me

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm breathing. I'm doing breathing exercises. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>terrified of flying. And I fly all the time. And

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<v Speaker 2>I just tell God, I said, God, thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>letting me face my fear. You know what I mean

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm able to. You know, I don't think if

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<v Speaker 2>I flew, I would be uh as successful as I

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<v Speaker 2>am so and I love going places I love. I

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<v Speaker 2>would love to go to India, Africa. This this that

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<v Speaker 2>it just don't like the journey, the plane flight once

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<v Speaker 2>this is it still still every day every every I fly,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe every other day, and it could be the beg.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember one time I get on the flight with

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<v Speaker 2>Kalid and Calid got this plane, like you know, cald

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<v Speaker 2>does everything another level, you know, so his private plane

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<v Speaker 2>that was white, everything, the ceiling, the floors, the coucius,

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<v Speaker 2>the ladies, the flight attendants. They were so polite. It

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<v Speaker 2>was there was the best flight you could ever take.

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<v Speaker 2>We went up, we felt a little. I was like

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<v Speaker 2>it could have been it could have been American Airlines,

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<v Speaker 2>it could have been any other plane. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>all the white, all the fancy food, everything went out

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<v Speaker 2>the window. I was like terrified and something I can't get.

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<v Speaker 1>Over with going back to that time that you're they're

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<v Speaker 1>giving you a jacket, they giving you three pairs of

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<v Speaker 1>sneakers and go and take care of this. How long

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<v Speaker 1>does that continue for a man?

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<v Speaker 2>That continues because I was, uh, we were really tough.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't say just me, but we're really tough. And

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<v Speaker 2>but I, like I said, I you know, when I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up in the Bronx, it looked like bombs exploded

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<v Speaker 2>in the Bronx. It looked like Ukraine, no exaggeration, look

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<v Speaker 2>it up, seventies eighties in the Bronx. And so, but

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<v Speaker 2>I always had a ambition to be successful, to have

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<v Speaker 2>more on I remember talking to a friend of mine,

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<v Speaker 2>his name was Louis. We was like twelve years old

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm looking out that rubble and I'm saying, Yo,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not this ain't for me. I gotta get money.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta, I gotta. I gotta give me a Mercedes Benz,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta give me a DA And he's like, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you talking about? We've been so poor generational that

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't even fathom. You know, nobody in my family

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<v Speaker 2>was rich like that or nothing like that. So he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what are you talking about? We straight this.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, nah, I gotta get it, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And and so it's almost like a movie that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you got these guys that you know, you just come

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<v Speaker 2>pick up when it's time. And so I would go.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, for me, it was by any means

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<v Speaker 2>necessary to get money, and so I would do whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>but also knowing I want to be the kingpin, not

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<v Speaker 2>the guy they come get to beat people up. And

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<v Speaker 2>so one thing led to another and and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we became big boys in the street, you know before

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<v Speaker 2>a rap. So hip hop saved my life, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>changed my whole life like a Cinderella movie. Like it

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<v Speaker 2>was like the minute I got my record deal, I

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<v Speaker 2>never hustled again. I never dealt with crime, I never

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<v Speaker 2>went back there. It was like a Cinderella Robin Hood.

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<v Speaker 2>The minute that I got my deal, I was like, y'all,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want nothing to do with this. I walked

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<v Speaker 2>away from it, started rapping, telling my story through music,

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<v Speaker 2>and here we are. You know, I just knew when

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<v Speaker 2>I got into hip hop and I got into the

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<v Speaker 2>rap game, I said, all right, this is it, this

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<v Speaker 2>is this, this is the way out. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>no difference and any other business. You know, at one

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<v Speaker 2>time I had the number one record Flow Joe in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety three. It was it was the number one

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<v Speaker 2>record in the country. I was getting five hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a show. So I was doing three shows at night.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know, you know, that wasn't no money, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. But I had to do what

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<v Speaker 2>I had to do to get my money, and so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so that wasn't even easy. So you now

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<v Speaker 2>you in the game and you step in and it's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like half the battle. And I was like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 2>how do we find the money in this business? Because

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<v Speaker 2>at that time, it was no money in the business.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, yeah, that's crazy to think

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<v Speaker 1>that in what thirty years, it's changed so much financially.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I don't want to say for a fact,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think LOOKUJ was headlining arenas for like ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand a show. Wow, and this is Arenas, this is

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<v Speaker 2>like Madison Square Garden and all that. So it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was the money wasn't there, So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>back in the day is the only way to explain

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<v Speaker 2>it to you. Back in the days, Magic Johnson was

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<v Speaker 2>the first player to get a million dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 2>He made the cover of Times magazine, he was in

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<v Speaker 2>every matter. It was the biggest talk. Now you got

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<v Speaker 2>the fifteenth guy on the bench making two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>forty million. The disparity is crazy. You see a rapper

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<v Speaker 2>now or reggaetne artists or one of them now put

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<v Speaker 2>out one hit and they're making four hundred thousand the

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<v Speaker 2>show for one song, and you're like, Yo, this is

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<v Speaker 2>craz I done, tore it. Forget a chitlin circuit. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't went around the whole moon for five hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, So you know it's a different time.

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<v Speaker 1>was going back to your movie analogy I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie the streets always trying and come back

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<v Speaker 1>for the person to try to move away. So when

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<v Speaker 1>someone goes, I come done with this business. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to a shadow. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And so with my life it was like that too,

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<v Speaker 2>and I and I and I made a lot of mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm more successful now than ever, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm much more mature and so, you know, growing

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<v Speaker 2>up in the ghetto, you have survivors guilt, and so

0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.399
<v Speaker 2>me and my community, you know, took care me. The

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<v Speaker 2>only reason why I'm still here is because of them.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had a big obligation to try to bring

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<v Speaker 2>everybody with me. You know, I got rich young, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would have fifty guys with me every time. I

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<v Speaker 2>would literally come to your interview right now with fifty guys,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty trucks, fifty cars. That means fifty stakes, fifty champagne bottles,

0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:23.000
<v Speaker 2>fifty hotel rooms, fifty plane tickets. This you know, every day,

0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:25.919
<v Speaker 2>how do you afford that you don't? And so what

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<v Speaker 2>happens is, uh, you know, when you when you're young,

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at the cartoons, they're telling kids a

0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:37.920
<v Speaker 2>million dollars. That's almost like you could capture a cloud, right,

0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:41.120
<v Speaker 2>like like a million dollars is like you could take

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<v Speaker 2>a cloud and put it in a bottle a million dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when you get a million dollarge, you think

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<v Speaker 2>it's like this can't run out, but it runs out.

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<v Speaker 2>And so for me, I remember going broke about three

0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:57.960
<v Speaker 2>times in my life, like literally broke, being like a

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<v Speaker 2>number one rapper, number one on the head. Everybody's what,

0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:04.600
<v Speaker 2>but I'm like, and I'm just doing foolish things and

0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:06.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to take the whole neighborhood with me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember that one time I tell this famous story,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'll tell it to your audience. I remember one

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<v Speaker 2>time I couldn't sleep, and now I know when I

0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.800
<v Speaker 2>can't sleep, God has given me a message. So that's

0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:22.199
<v Speaker 2>that's a fact. Like that that that when I I

0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:26.159
<v Speaker 2>could sleep all the time, right, but when I can't sleep,

0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:31.240
<v Speaker 2>there's something that I gotta figure out, dissect or whatever

0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:35.560
<v Speaker 2>God is telling me. Yo, hold up, figure this out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because us, you know, we in the public life,

0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.480
<v Speaker 2>we gotta watch what we say. We gotta do. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a very you know, I don't get high, I

0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:47.160
<v Speaker 2>don't use I don't. Everybody, I encourage you to smoke weed.

0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:50.280
<v Speaker 2>If you want cannabis, you could drink whatever. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>And in my life, with everything that's been thrown at me,

0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:58.440
<v Speaker 2>it's almost like the matrix. If I got high, i'd

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<v Speaker 2>have been out of here a long time ago. Did it?

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<v Speaker 2>No Wow. So the way this thing comes to me

0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:06.240
<v Speaker 2>is like, you know, he throw so much things at you,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's family, whether it's business, whether it's this, whether

0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.760
<v Speaker 2>it's that, it's this. To be successful in twenty twenty

0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:16.560
<v Speaker 2>four is like the matrix. You know you're doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like who dodged that one? What about this one?

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<v Speaker 2>What about that? Magine I'm high, I'm over here like

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<v Speaker 2>this doped up? I'm done right? And so that was

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<v Speaker 2>back in the early days. The reason why I never

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<v Speaker 2>got high was because I had so much violence and

0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:37.320
<v Speaker 2>beef whatever guys that you know, I just I knew

0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:38.960
<v Speaker 2>they were gonna kill me or some like if I

0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.960
<v Speaker 2>was standing on the corner hin smoked out or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I was done. And the thing is, nobody has a

0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:51.280
<v Speaker 2>PhD or masters in hip hop music. It's actually whose

0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:55.520
<v Speaker 2>crew is toughest. So every rapper you meet, they'll come

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<v Speaker 2>up and be like, Yo, Hi, let's just say I'm

0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.760
<v Speaker 2>fabulous yo. This my man just came on for twenty years.

0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:05.040
<v Speaker 2>He did three murder this this to' oh how you

0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:08.200
<v Speaker 2>doing yo? This is Jada kiss yo? What's up? Jadakiss yo?

0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:10.679
<v Speaker 2>This is my man Johnny the button just came on

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty five years for killing five people. This thing,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's what it is. And so I don't

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<v Speaker 2>get we gotta do it with Drake. We could do

0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:23.880
<v Speaker 2>it with all of them, right, and so you don't

0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:26.399
<v Speaker 2>need a PhD on Masters to get a hip hop.

0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 2>So I'm leaving the streets trying to come in here

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<v Speaker 2>to change my life. And then when I come in

0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:38.360
<v Speaker 2>here to change my life, I realize the streets come back,

0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:41.119
<v Speaker 2>the shadows, you know, And then everybody want to know,

0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:45.080
<v Speaker 2>are you really tough? Are you really that guy? Fat Joe?

0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Do you talk loud? Do you just like prove to

0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:53.200
<v Speaker 2>us that you really get busy? And so the streets

0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:56.119
<v Speaker 2>is always with you, you know. Now it's more like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>now we totally you know, talk to my secure to

0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:04.720
<v Speaker 2>argue with my security. He's an ex cop, deal with him. Oh,

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:09.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't even I don't even stuff doesn't even bother

0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:11.359
<v Speaker 2>me no more. So you got to get to that

0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:15.520
<v Speaker 2>place spiritually. You got to get to that place where

0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:19.119
<v Speaker 2>you feel like, you know what your job is in life,

0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:21.200
<v Speaker 2>you know what you're trying to do. You want to

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<v Speaker 2>live righteous, you want to help the people, you want

0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:27.040
<v Speaker 2>to help your family. But all that outside noise doesn't

0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:29.320
<v Speaker 2>even bother me no more. You know. I've had some

0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:33.440
<v Speaker 2>of my friends that I have for years go on

0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:36.400
<v Speaker 2>youtubes and blogs and talk bad about me and this

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 2>and this. I'd be like, oh, him too, Like it's

0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:43.120
<v Speaker 2>like it just it just rubs off me. Now it's

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:45.080
<v Speaker 2>not doesn't even affect me.

0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when you were younger, one of the things that

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:50.240
<v Speaker 1>did affect you, I believe was your oh, brother, you're

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:52.920
<v Speaker 1>realizing that you weren't biologically family.

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 2>No, it wasn't my problem. It was like we grew

0:23:56.840 --> 0:24:01.399
<v Speaker 2>up together. So I have two brothers and the sister,

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:05.879
<v Speaker 2>and I grew up my father came from Cuba, and

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 2>my father got with my my mom's after she had

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.480
<v Speaker 2>a husband and had three kids. So I'm the last kid.

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:15.719
<v Speaker 2>But he raised my brothers and sisters, and we were

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:18.879
<v Speaker 2>raised as brothers and sisters to this day. Brother, not half.

0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:22.119
<v Speaker 2>We never heard the word half. We had a brother.

0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:26.000
<v Speaker 2>So me and my brother, we were, you know, partners

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:28.840
<v Speaker 2>in the streets, right, So you know, me and my

0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:33.159
<v Speaker 2>brother and you. And then my other brother, Raymond, was

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:35.800
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be a lawyer or whatever the case may be.

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 2>He was going to school for that. And then when

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 2>we was hustling, we had a choice to make right.

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:46.119
<v Speaker 2>And so the choice to make was that we had

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:49.000
<v Speaker 2>made all this money, we still lived in the projects, Like,

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 2>we had tons of money in the closet right in

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 2>the in afforded affordable housing projects. So we had to

0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 2>see where we were going to put the money at.

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:01.919
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't that small? An't we was sophisticated. We didn't know

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:06.679
<v Speaker 2>about buying businesses. We didn't have accountants, We ain't have nothing.

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 2>The most we had was cars and jury and and

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 2>so my one brother said, y'all leave the money with me.

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 2>And I said, and I ain't think nothing of he's

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 2>my brother. I told my brother Andre, I said, why

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 2>don't we leave half the money with him? And you

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:26.200
<v Speaker 2>go to Orlando to my aunt who's like ninety years old.

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:29.960
<v Speaker 2>She wouldn't even know she had millions of dollars in

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 2>her attic right, and I said, split it up. You know,

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:35.919
<v Speaker 2>you don't want all your eggs not saying it this.

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 2>And so my brother, my other brother, turned around and

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 2>told my brother, why are we even talking in front

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:45.399
<v Speaker 2>of Joey? He's our half brother. And that devastated me

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:47.960
<v Speaker 2>that the tears just can't. I never heard that before.

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.680
<v Speaker 2>So my brother Andrew argue with him, was like, you're crazy.

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Joey's my brother. You know. The irony to that story

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 2>is that day, it was Thanksgiving the whole family. You know,

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:00.480
<v Speaker 2>we never had much or whatever, but we always have

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 2>was love and family to this day. So I got

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 2>in the car. I had a Mustang five point on

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 2>at that time, I went to h it'send the book Jose.

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:13.359
<v Speaker 2>I went to a place in the bronx Court City

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:15.879
<v Speaker 2>Island to it. It's one way in, one way out,

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:17.920
<v Speaker 2>and so I was just driving like one hundred miles

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 2>per hour, and I was I just felt like I

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 2>was going to run into a wall or something. And

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 2>then at the last minute, you know, I spun out.

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I was actually thinking the killing myself. I spun out,

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:33.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, except that then I went and ate me

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 2>a nice steak. You ever ate at the Seville Rich

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:40.200
<v Speaker 2>there was a Oh my god, they had the best

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 2>steaks with the fast onions. Now I had the best

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 2>meal that night, right old school joint man. And so

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 2>eventually I wrote it in the book, but didn't really

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 2>actually say it that my brother the FEDS came and

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 2>locked everybody up, like forty of us, not me. I

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 2>was rapping the ready. Thank god, rap saved my life.

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 2>But when they did that, my brother was on the runner.

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 2>He was calling my other brother, YO, send me money.

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:10.120
<v Speaker 2>He was in like Dominican Republican and my brother went

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 2>and respond. So my brother flies back and the brother

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 2>who called me to have brother spent the millions of

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 2>dollars we didn't know. So he came and said, Yo,

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 2>what's up. I'm on the run. I need the money.

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, yo, I spent the money. We like

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 2>you spent the money millions of dollars. Like you spent

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 2>the money. And it wasn't like lavish. You ain't see no

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.639
<v Speaker 2>Lamborghinea out there or nothing like. It's like how you

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:37.439
<v Speaker 2>spent the money. And so the concept of us growing

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:41.160
<v Speaker 2>up was always if my brother had it, I had it.

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 2>So my brother was the boss. I made some dollars,

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:46.160
<v Speaker 2>but he made the real money. But I knew if

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 2>my brother had it, I had it. It's the same

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 2>concept we have with terror Squad today. If Joe got it,

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 2>you got it. You can't take advantage of it. Well,

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 2>he'll help you at any given time. You know, if

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 2>I got it, you got it. And so my brother

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 2>stole the money. I never talked to him for twenty

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:08.200
<v Speaker 2>five thirty years. I never talked to him again because

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:11.119
<v Speaker 2>my brother not only did he steal the money, my

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 2>other brother, ain't you started using drugs because he went

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 2>from being rich to being broke. And I used to

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.880
<v Speaker 2>tell them all the time, your age, I'm rapping, I'm

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna take care of us. Don't worry. I got us.

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 2>But he just fell in deep depression and started using

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 2>drugs and using drugs. And you know, to this day,

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 2>my brother he'll be looking around the room and he

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 2>was like, I used to have money. I used to

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 2>have it. You know, these people kill themselves in Wall Street.

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 2>They jump off the roof, they jump off of bridges,

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 2>they hang themselves when they lose all their money. When

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 2>you used to that type of money, millions of dollars,

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, your own brother, your own blood steals that

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 2>from you. So he had a lot to deal with

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 2>and I kept putting them in drug programs. I kept

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 2>begging them like, June, come on, I'm good, Like, come on,

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're gonna be good. But he couldn't get

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 2>over that. Even to this day. But he's not using

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 2>drugs no more, thank God. But you know, if I

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 2>had him, you know, mind sound. You know, he's smarter

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 2>than me. So if I had him with me through

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 2>my whole career, through my whole you know, we would

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 2>have been better off than we are now, you know,

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 2>because he was really the leader, he was really the

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 2>smart one and so but he couldn't snap himself out

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 2>of that.

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how hard is that watching someone you love, someone

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 1>that you try, someone that you know could have been

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>this and had this potential, and then not seeing them

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 1>be there with you through it? Well, how do you

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 1>deal with that?

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, my best friend on earth is in jail.

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 2>He's doing forty eight years and he's been in jail

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 2>for thirty three years. And I often think about, like tonight,

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna nick game. I know for a fact they're

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna put me on TV. God bless him on court side,

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 2>sitting next to Spike Lee High five and Spike Lee.

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 2>My brother got to see that in jail and the Feds.

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 2>But how do you think he feel that he's in

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 2>jail my best friend, and he knows that if he

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 2>comes out, Fat Joe got him. He's right here with

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Jay Shetty. He's driving the best car, he's living the

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>best life. That's what you call suffering when you can't

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 2>do nothing for it. And the same thing with my brother.

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 2>You know what, you know, my brother had a chance,

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 2>you know. And so what I can tell you is

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 2>that drugs is an illness. It's highly addictive. That's why

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 2>I never tried it, because I might like it, And

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 2>so that's why I've always stayed away from drugs. I

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 2>looked at my brother and said, damn man, he's smarter

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 2>than me. He could have been way more than me.

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 2>And you know he couldn't shake the drugs. I don't

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 2>even want to try that. You know I had. I'll

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:44.959
<v Speaker 2>tell you a story for your audience. I had a

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 2>girl I used to chase for maybe ten years. I

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 2>used to chase this girl, Hey, what's up yo, yo?

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Beautiful girl? Right? And one day. She said, tonight's your

0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 2>night and I said, oh, wow, really I'm going to

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 2>get it. Like you know y'all've been after even Yes, yes,

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 2>but you know, Joe, I know you don't use drugs,

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 2>but tonight, to make it special, we're gonna take these

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 2>pills together. And I said, huh. She was like, we're

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 2>gonna take this choir. I said, I'm not taking them pills.

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 2>She was like, no, but this is gonna be amazing.

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 2>This is that you don't understand sex with these pills,

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 2>I said. And I was after this girl, and I

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 2>was like, you ain't getting me to take the pills.

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 2>And so nothing happened. Nothing happened.

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Brother, she must have felt that rejection.

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't care about rejection. It's just I know, you

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 2>know too many stories.

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Uh, good friend of mine not to put his business

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 2>out there, but he talks about it. Scott Storch one

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 2>of the most talented people in the world. Like I

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 2>owe him a lot of my career to Scott Storch.

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 2>But he tried at one time and that was it. Wow,

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:56.959
<v Speaker 2>he tried. He was with two girls, real famous girls.

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 2>If you know the real story. The best, the best

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:02.719
<v Speaker 2>movie ever made that hasn't been made as the Scott's

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 2>short story. If he lays the goods out is, you know,

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 2>we need Leonardo DiCaprio to play him like this, this

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 2>is gonna be one. But you know, he had two

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 2>famous girls and they were like, yo, you want to

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 2>be with us, you got to sniff this cocaine off

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>of you know, And he did it. He said that.

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 2>He literally told me the minute he sniffed it, he

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 2>was like euphoria, like this is the game, you know,

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 2>this whole life up messing with that. Now he's doing better,

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 2>but uh, you know he ran through like ninety million

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 2>dollars getting high.

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, well, yeah, because he was the guy then.

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I remember he was producing for everyone.

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like eighty five percent and number one songs of

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 2>one year, Yeah, Beyonce, fat Yo fifty, he was Sean Paul,

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 2>This everything was him, yeah remember, and so, uh, you

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 2>know he took a hard fall. You know, I love

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Scott Man. I wouldn't be where I'm at if it

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 2>wasn't for Scott.

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it's and and that's the hard part, right.

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 2>That's right with him. I try to get jokes. Oh yeah,

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm you know in many places. I'm considered the fun killer,

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, because I were coming they can't get high.

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Scott Storch, I'll tell you he used to sniff kilos

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 2>of cocaine, but around me, he never sniffed cocain his life.

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 2>He had that level of respect. So I would go

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 2>to his I would go there every day and just

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 2>sit there like a thrown on his side, you know,

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 2>for months, and just be like, you know, making sure

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 2>he don't get high. They said the minute I walked

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 2>out the door, and they were like, bring it out right.

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 2>They hated me in the place, but you know, I tried.

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 1>You know well, I mean we're talking about losing people

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 1>while they're still alive, and that is a real loss.

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 1>And then you've lost people who have actually lost their life,

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>who are no longer here. You've lost three, I mean,

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you've lost more than this, but three very

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>significant people in your life. Can you tell us what

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 1>was significant about the loss of each, because I feel

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 1>like they're different, diferent types of losses, but they're all

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>in the same year.

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 2>First of all, the same like week, like yeah, two

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 2>three weeks apart. Everything. I start with my sister. My

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 2>sister was like my best friend. She was supposed to

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 2>be the one to be there for me. You know,

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 2>we love our wives and we want them to always

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 2>be there. But one person I do know, you know, O. J.

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:31.879
<v Speaker 2>Simpson died, you know recently, and they said the only

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 2>people who used to go see them every day was

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 2>his sisters. You know, that's the you know, when the

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 2>whole world turns off the lights on you, your sisters

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:43.400
<v Speaker 2>would be there for you. So I lost to I

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 2>lost my sister. She was giving childbirth and so they

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 2>gave an epidoro instead of numbing up from the waist

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 2>down and number from the waist up. Lack of oxygen

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 2>to the brain. So she was in a coma for

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 2>eight months, and that was killing me to see my

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 2>mother and father every day there and he was there,

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 2>and that's horrible. I wish nobody gets to see someone

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 2>they loved like that. And when I got the call

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:10.799
<v Speaker 2>she died, it was almost a relief. And I don't

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 2>want to say I'm happy my sister died, because that's

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 2>not true. But she was suffering too much. And so

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 2>my sister passes away, right, So that's the number one. Right.

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:22.760
<v Speaker 2>I used to think this guy was the number one

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 2>because I love him so much. But really, over the years,

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 2>really analyzing it, my sister really knocked me out the

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 2>box right, just to not have her in this world.

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Then one of my best friends, you know, my artists,

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 2>when you know, one of the most loyal guys is

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Big Pun. You know, we made history together and together,

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, being Latino in this music business, you know

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:51.239
<v Speaker 2>that we stood for so much, you know, and even

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 2>though I was on before him and I was on

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 2>my way to success, I took the back road for

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 2>him because I knew he was so much more talented

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 2>and I knew we need a guy like that. Years later,

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 2>now thirty twenty years later, we still hear his music

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.879
<v Speaker 2>and feel that pride. I knew that at the time,

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 2>and so he passed away young around the same time

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 2>as my sister, maybe a week two weeks apart. Now

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm young, I'm twenty seven, twenty eight, acting like I

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:19.360
<v Speaker 2>know about the world, but I'm still really really young,

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 2>and so you know how scared it is to lose

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 2>a best friend, franchise player. You know, here you went

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:31.840
<v Speaker 2>from being this broke kid living in this danger zone

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 2>into you know, being successful, being rich, and now the

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 2>guy you did it with his dad at twenty seven,

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight years old. And then my grandfather, you know,

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 2>and I analyzing my family treat I'm more like my

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 2>grandfather than anybody, you know. I used to call him Cowboy.

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 2>He had a lot of respect in the hood. So

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 2>my grandfather died, so all that together just through it

0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 2>was like a perfect storm, you know. And I never

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 2>dealt with so much death like that, And so, you know,

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.439
<v Speaker 2>I was really in a dark place. I'm not talking

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 2>about a regular dark place, you know, sleeping in the

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:12.320
<v Speaker 2>bathtub with no water running. If I looked outside and

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 2>there was sunny, it looked dark. You know, if someone

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 2>shoots you. I tell people all the time, you in

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:23.920
<v Speaker 2>a gang. Tell you in a gang in Chicago and

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to kill you. You do know, you can

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 2>move to Alabama and no one will know you. You

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 2>couldn't move to la You could move to New York.

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:37.360
<v Speaker 2>You could move anywhere and they won't know you. The

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:40.839
<v Speaker 2>problem with depression is it comes with you wherever you go.

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 2>So at the time I'm in depression, I'm going to Miami,

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to Islands. I'm going to try to erase it.

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 2>But I can't. It's with me everywhere I go. And now,

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, when people say let them mourn, that means

0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 2>like give them time, let them get their things together,

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 2>their bearings together. But when your best friend who just

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 2>died is the biggest rap star in the world, people

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 2>think they're doing a good thing, a good deed. So

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 2>they bring you your food. Yoh, sorry about your brother,

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 2>big pun man, Yo, that was my man once again.

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 2>It's back. Yeah. And then I'm in the car. I'm

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 2>in a car waiting at the light. The next door,

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 2>y'all pun he was the man they started blasting. So

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 2>it was so hard, right, and I considered it myself

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 2>to be a bright person. And so it's the only

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 2>way to put it is like the mind is like

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 2>a super complex Rubik's Q, and you just gotta And

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:42.400
<v Speaker 2>so I never thought of I'm gonna kill myself this.

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 2>I just was like, Joe, you gotta get out of this.

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:47.320
<v Speaker 2>You gotta get out of this. It's like a funk

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 2>and you wake up and it's a new day. Instead

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 2>of just saying it's a new day, you know, you

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 2>go back to oh, you know this, and then it's

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 2>so I went to therapy is.

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 1>That the first time you started going to say that's.

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:02.799
<v Speaker 2>The only time I went to therapy. But I went

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 2>to therapy for like two years. I didn't tell nobody,

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:10.839
<v Speaker 2>and this lady, this woman really really helped me out.

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:15.040
<v Speaker 2>And her strategy, I guess therapists are all different. Her

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:18.439
<v Speaker 2>strategy is you figure it out for you, like you'll

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 2>tell me about you, and then you just go there

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 2>all the time and you tell her about you, and

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 2>then you figure it out. You'll figure out what happened.

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 2>And the one thing that happened to me was, Uh,

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 2>we would do this muror in the South Bronx for

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Big Punt. So you know, I started out a graffiti

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:40.759
<v Speaker 2>artist and shout out the tax crew. So every year

0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:43.360
<v Speaker 2>they were doing new they would change the mural for

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 2>punt rest in peace punt. So I'm out there, it's

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 2>two years has gone by. Two dudes walk by. I

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 2>always say, I owe these guys so much money. And

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 2>one dude was like, yo, what they doing. He wasn't

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:55.919
<v Speaker 2>from the neighborhood. He was like, oh, that's a big

0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 2>pun boy. They changed it every year, he said, they

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:01.279
<v Speaker 2>change it every year. It's been that long. He was like, yeah,

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 2>it's been two years, and I swear to God in

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 2>my brain all I heard was two years, two years,

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:09.839
<v Speaker 2>two years, two years, two years, two years. And then

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:13.359
<v Speaker 2>something in my mind told myself, like your joke, you've

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 2>been beating yourself up for two years. You got to

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:20.920
<v Speaker 2>snap out of it. That same night, boom, I was

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:22.280
<v Speaker 2>back to the way I am. Now.

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Wow, you know, just.

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:28.399
<v Speaker 2>Two years, Joe, you try to kill yourself. For two years,

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 2>you've been beating yourself up. Maybe you could have did so,

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:33.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe he could have lost weight, Maybe you could have

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 2>helped your sister. Maybe you could have you know, And

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:39.840
<v Speaker 2>so you go over beating yourself up. So you know,

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 2>it's finally was done. Two years and I run away

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 2>from dark thoughts and depression. Like now, I don't even

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 2>get in the area. If I ever feel something like that,

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm running the other way. See people walk to it

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 2>for some reason, you know, But me, I run away

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 2>from from any type of dark times, any type of

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 2>dark moments. I move on.

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Your sister, if she could talk to you today, what

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 1>do you think she'd say?

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 2>She'd be proud, but she also was very supportive and simple.

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 2>But you know she you know, she knew her brother

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:22.360
<v Speaker 2>had a bat. She'd call me anytime or the day,

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:25.280
<v Speaker 2>anytime or the day. You know, bro, I need money,

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:27.759
<v Speaker 2>that car be outside. I windn'tow in five minutes, Like, yo,

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.439
<v Speaker 2>come down here you go, you know what I'm saying.

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 2>So she know I always had a bat, you know,

0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 2>she she the only thing I would say. The only

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 2>regret my sister had with me is I used to

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 2>beat up her boyfriends. And so that was like a

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 2>major problem. Like for real though, if a guy came

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 2>to visit my sister, I would sitting there with a

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 2>baseball bat while he's sitting on the couch with her

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 2>and I'm looking at him.

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 1>And she always hated me for that.

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:59.319
<v Speaker 2>You know. You know, I'm just telling you what she

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, she wasn't feeling me on that tip. I'd

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 2>be like, you know, yo, you ain't gonna do that

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:05.800
<v Speaker 2>to my sister.

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>And so, you know, is that your younger sister? She

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:10.799
<v Speaker 1>was old, she was.

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Older, but I was always you know, I'm young, but

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:15.839
<v Speaker 2>you know I'm the the baby of the family, say,

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 2>but always the leader. I don't know, It's just that

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:19.080
<v Speaker 2>was me.

0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I have a younger sister. I'm very protective as well,

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and I could I could relate to what you were

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:26.400
<v Speaker 1>saying about the love that you have for your sister.

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 2>That kind of different. Yes, the brother sister love is

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 2>a whole different because she really got your back. Yeah, no, no,

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:35.719
<v Speaker 2>she got your back.

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:37.839
<v Speaker 1>I can do nothing wrong in my sister's eyes.

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:40.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she got your back. So when it's all said

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:42.960
<v Speaker 2>and done, you know, God forbid. Hopefully you live with

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 2>your wife till you die together. But if you know,

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 2>you ever go through something with your wife or something

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 2>like that, the one woman that is going to hold

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 2>you down is your sister.

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:55.319
<v Speaker 1>And what about Big Pun? If he was.

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you know Big Pun, and you know

0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:06.160
<v Speaker 2>he was so good, like he was like he was

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 2>like a freaking nature bro. He was a genius, you know.

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:12.400
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. I know, I try to impress

0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 2>him with moves I'm making musically. You know, I've always

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:18.879
<v Speaker 2>been a real man. I always been a lawyer man.

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I always stuck to the code no matter what, you know,

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.600
<v Speaker 2>I never let the you know, Punk has this famous

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 2>line in the record where he says, you know, I

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:31.359
<v Speaker 2>never I weigh the crown and never let it touch

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:33.880
<v Speaker 2>the ground. So we never let the crown touch the ground.

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, we always kept that same you know, you know,

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 2>but uh, I can't tell you because he was so

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:44.400
<v Speaker 2>much better than me. He was just like light years

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 2>better than me. So he really actually taught me how

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 2>to make hits. Even though I discovered him. We would

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 2>sitting there, so he would screaming at me like, yo,

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 2>you're limited, you're limited, keep thinking. Switch it up at

0:43:57.280 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 2>the end. This like he was just so great that

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's like it was like I'm coming up

0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 2>and he's a Shakespeare or something like he was literally

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 2>and he would be like, no, you got to do

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 2>it like this, No, like that. So I don't know,

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, I've had some an thumbs, I've had hits.

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was too big pun standards.

0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you he was. He was. He was sleep.

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:22.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he had that thing.

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:25.719
<v Speaker 2>What is in KNARCOLEPSI or something, right, He would fall

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 2>asleep right on you. Right, there's a true story. He

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:32.080
<v Speaker 2>would wake up and be like aass me the book.

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 2>He would have a whole song. He would write it

0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 2>in his sleep. He would have a whole song to

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 2>start writing it. Yeah right, I mean this guy was.

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 2>It was phenomenal from the first time I ever heard

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 2>of my new Like, this guy's like the greatest, he's

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 2>the best, Like it was another level.

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, well you it was. I remember when we

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:56.239
<v Speaker 1>were coming up listening to you. It was because of

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.200
<v Speaker 1>you that we got introduced to Big Pun. That's how

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 1>we Yeah, he was like, yeah, is that we even

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:03.880
<v Speaker 1>discovered who he was because we were aware I was.

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:06.720
<v Speaker 2>A big punt in London. He was on fire out there.

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Because of you.

0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I know.

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 1>That was the entry point for all of us that

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:12.400
<v Speaker 1>that's how we discovered his music. But it was for

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the people who were like listening, like it was for

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 1>a real listener. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't for the

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:18.320
<v Speaker 1>master lyrics.

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeh.

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, It's for someone who was actually listening and was

0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:21.880
<v Speaker 1>trying to understand that.

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, beautiful time. I think my best time at

0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 2>in hip hop music, you know what I mean, just

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:33.319
<v Speaker 2>growing together, becoming the first UH soloist Latino to win

0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 2>UH to sell two million records back in them days.

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, you have to go buy them records in

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:43.280
<v Speaker 2>the snowstorm. You know, it was physical, it wasn't just streaming,

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 2>and so we were so proud of him and and

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, he died so young. So that was that

0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 2>that really devastated me to this day. You know, the

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:57.359
<v Speaker 2>way the crew works is, uh, he's everywhere. So if

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:00.080
<v Speaker 2>you go in my house, you see Big Punt. You

0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:02.920
<v Speaker 2>going my businesses, you see Big Pun. You go in

0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 2>any one of the crew members' houses, Big Pun is up.

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:09.759
<v Speaker 2>You know we we we never forgot them. You know

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:12.440
<v Speaker 2>what's crazy is I throw this up. I'm gonna invite

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:15.040
<v Speaker 2>you this year. I throw a birthday party every year

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 2>at forget about it. Whoever you think of is in

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:20.719
<v Speaker 2>there right every year. We have fun. So if you

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:27.400
<v Speaker 2>don't dance, you're not invited. We are, but you gotta dance, brother,

0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:32.799
<v Speaker 2>that's gotta dance. It's so and so one year a

0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:36.480
<v Speaker 2>reporter snuck in the party. We didn't even know. And

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:39.320
<v Speaker 2>so the reporter wrote for the for the post, I believe,

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:42.360
<v Speaker 2>she wrote, I was in the party. It was amazing.

0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:44.839
<v Speaker 2>This one and that one was there. This she said.

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 2>They kept mentioning Big Pun every thirty seconds, like he

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 2>was alive at the party. And so I think you

0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:55.839
<v Speaker 2>would be proud of that that we make sure that

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, we represent them at the highest standard. Yeah,

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, as a rap guard because that's what he is.

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:05.359
<v Speaker 1>That's beautiful. And I'm waiting for my Terrot Squad chain

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 1>as well, and the two things I wanted as a kid.

0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:13.320
<v Speaker 2>That's an expensive that's an expensive everybody. Everybody was waiting

0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:14.640
<v Speaker 2>on that Terrace Squad train.

0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:17.160
<v Speaker 1>You know you you made us one of his kids.

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 1>That's just deal.

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:19.400
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:21.359
<v Speaker 2>I remember one day I had to give my chain

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:24.200
<v Speaker 2>the drake off my neck like I had it on

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 2>my neck, and he was like, yo, man, I always

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:28.399
<v Speaker 2>wanted that. You know, this is I was like, man,

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:30.680
<v Speaker 2>here you go, but that's expensive.

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:31.879
<v Speaker 1>That's a heavy thing to give.

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's expensive. Just uh, you know everybody. You imagine

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:39.279
<v Speaker 2>how rich everybody wants a Terrace Squad chain.

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 1>We used to go get the cubics of CONEA one

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 1>and down the road DJ Cubics and.

0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 2>People I really love it. They'd be like, yo, I

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:51.120
<v Speaker 2>need that chain. I'm like, sheesh, man, you know what

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 2>these change costs?

0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:56.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's beautiful, man, have some you know. Terraorce

0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Squad started out as a graffiti crew. The guys who

0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:04.800
<v Speaker 2>started it passed away, but before they they got off graffiti,

0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:06.680
<v Speaker 2>they gave it to me. I never forget. I was

0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 2>in the back of my projects. I was maybe like

0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 2>thirteen years old, and I remember I made a pledge

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:14.200
<v Speaker 2>this is gonna I didn't know it was gonna be music,

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:15.880
<v Speaker 2>but it was Terror Squad is going to be the

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:18.799
<v Speaker 2>biggest crew you ever seen in your life. And then

0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:23.240
<v Speaker 2>I had my sister and our friends was like Terror

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Squad ladies. And you know, we did this our whole life,

0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:31.399
<v Speaker 2>you know. And I hope when I'm gone it'll stick

0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 2>around with all our family members and all our friends.

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:37.399
<v Speaker 2>You know. It means a lot to us.

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:41.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's amazing to see you. So, you know, having

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:46.920
<v Speaker 1>gone through so much trauma, loss, and I think people

0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:50.640
<v Speaker 1>underestimate how what you said, that journey of when you're

0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:53.240
<v Speaker 1>from the streets and then you suddenly get a million

0:48:53.280 --> 0:48:56.879
<v Speaker 1>dollars through a talent that you have and then it's

0:48:56.880 --> 0:48:57.680
<v Speaker 1>like you don't know what to.

0:48:57.640 --> 0:49:00.279
<v Speaker 2>Do with it. You don't know how it works, what

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:04.040
<v Speaker 2>to do it. You mean that we need financial literacy.

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, financial you know what to do even today, even

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:12.600
<v Speaker 1>today like now when influences TikTok Instagram, like people are

0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:17.160
<v Speaker 1>coming into wealth so early in their life without what they.

0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:19.279
<v Speaker 2>Say, So that's a great question. I don't know if

0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:19.560
<v Speaker 2>it's a.

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Question is I don't know questions. I was just framing it.

0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:26.759
<v Speaker 2>Who are we? This is the problem, it's a fat

0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Joe is always open for advice young artists. You know

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:34.319
<v Speaker 2>you do it all the time. You can still do it.

0:49:34.560 --> 0:49:37.239
<v Speaker 2>You can hit me in the d M. I'll talk

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 2>to you. I'll give you advice. My advice is free

0:49:40.200 --> 0:49:43.160
<v Speaker 2>all the time. But who are we to tell a

0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:47.760
<v Speaker 2>young guy or young girl who had nothing in life?

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Let's take a sexy red? Who are who are we

0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:54.719
<v Speaker 2>to tell a sexy red who came from nothing and

0:49:54.800 --> 0:49:57.440
<v Speaker 2>now she's making millions of dollars and she's enjoying it

0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:01.760
<v Speaker 2>with a friensis. Who are who are me to tell

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 2>her that she's wrong? Who are we to tell her anything?

0:50:06.480 --> 0:50:09.759
<v Speaker 2>She made it. It's a miracle. It's a miracle that

0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:12.319
<v Speaker 2>she made it coming from where she's coming from. So

0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:15.279
<v Speaker 2>I can't talk down on them or tell them, yo,

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:17.720
<v Speaker 2>don't do that or whatever. Now, if you want advice,

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:20.200
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what I did. And I blew a

0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:22.760
<v Speaker 2>lot of money. You know, it's just now in life

0:50:22.800 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 2>that I'm understanding, you know, investments and taking care of

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 2>my money and taking care of my family on another level.

0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:34.239
<v Speaker 2>And I still have a problem with Louis Vauton and

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:37.759
<v Speaker 2>Gucci and diamonds, and you know, I'm still attracted to

0:50:37.800 --> 0:50:42.440
<v Speaker 2>the stuff, you know, but still in all you know,

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:45.440
<v Speaker 2>I look at all these young artists, I don't I

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:48.880
<v Speaker 2>can't tell them, you know now if they asked me, yo, gee,

0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:50.560
<v Speaker 2>what you think I should do, and then I'll sit

0:50:50.600 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 2>down and be like, yo, go buy a bunch of

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Subways franchise, Go buy some wingstops, Go buy some McDonald's.

0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:02.839
<v Speaker 2>You know something that you because artists. The sad thing

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 2>about hip hop is you could go from one day

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:06.919
<v Speaker 2>being the biggest artists in the world getting two hundred

0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:09.879
<v Speaker 2>and fifty thousand the show, and four years later you're

0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 2>not hoting, You're getting fifteen thousand show. That's a big disparacy.

0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:16.279
<v Speaker 2>And so I don't know why. I don't know why

0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:19.600
<v Speaker 2>it's like that, why they don't value the artists where

0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:22.160
<v Speaker 2>the money value stays up. But that's how it is

0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:26.040
<v Speaker 2>in hip hop. That's just a reality. And so so

0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:29.640
<v Speaker 2>many of us artists are driven off of our performance money.

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:33.279
<v Speaker 2>I will show our touring that when something goes wrong,

0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:37.120
<v Speaker 2>like COVID. You in the house scared to death because

0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:39.319
<v Speaker 2>you can't go out there and make the money. So

0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 2>you got to diversify. You gotta buy businesses, you got

0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:45.360
<v Speaker 2>to investments, You gotta do different things so that money

0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:48.839
<v Speaker 2>could come in through all different angles. And so that's

0:51:48.880 --> 0:51:53.560
<v Speaker 2>something I learned at at older age. You know, invest

0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:56.480
<v Speaker 2>in sneaker stores, invest in that, invest in this, invest

0:51:56.520 --> 0:51:59.440
<v Speaker 2>in that, and so that way money comes in from

0:51:59.440 --> 0:51:59.759
<v Speaker 2>all over.

0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I think we have to learn from that hindsight because

0:52:02.800 --> 0:52:05.040
<v Speaker 1>even for me, when I started out as a creator,

0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I could see YouTubers who and YouTube's are the same, right,

0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:11.319
<v Speaker 1>like one year it's amazing and then the next year

0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:13.719
<v Speaker 1>it's not. And I saw so many people who came

0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:16.960
<v Speaker 1>before me that were paying off their parents' mortgages one year,

0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 1>but then the next year they didn't have money to

0:52:18.640 --> 0:52:21.760
<v Speaker 1>pay their own rent because it switches up so fast

0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:24.800
<v Speaker 1>it is, and you just see that happening to people overnight,

0:52:24.840 --> 0:52:27.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's painful because their intention was good. They were

0:52:27.440 --> 0:52:29.799
<v Speaker 1>trying to take care of their family, but now it's

0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:32.319
<v Speaker 1>that long term they've lost out. It doesn't work well.

0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:34.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, we have a thing in Terre Squad. We

0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:36.600
<v Speaker 2>always take care of him, and always take care of

0:52:36.680 --> 0:52:40.280
<v Speaker 2>mothers and dad's. You know, if your mother and dad

0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:43.680
<v Speaker 2>wasn't rich or didn't have to take care of you,

0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:46.800
<v Speaker 2>we take care of them. And so it's a great

0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:49.560
<v Speaker 2>honor to look at my brothers and know that each

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 2>one of them take care of their mother, take care

0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:54.200
<v Speaker 2>of their father, you know, because we at this age.

0:52:54.520 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, if we fifty years old, now you know

0:52:57.239 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 2>they're eighty years old. So these times you gotta really

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:02.760
<v Speaker 2>look out for them. And so I love a person

0:53:02.880 --> 0:53:06.080
<v Speaker 2>that actually takes care of their mother, takes care of

0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:08.440
<v Speaker 2>their father. Now, if they're wealthy or they have money

0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:12.080
<v Speaker 2>at the time, great, nothing wrong with that. But if

0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:14.960
<v Speaker 2>they ain't got it, you know, I'm more afford taking.

0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:17.799
<v Speaker 2>You know, I went through a tax problem one time.

0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:20.759
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't really my fault, but I did. And the

0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:22.920
<v Speaker 2>biggest thing I got scared of when they told me

0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:25.080
<v Speaker 2>you didn't pay your mortgage is you didn't pay your

0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:27.880
<v Speaker 2>car notes. You didn't this I had accountant. I'm sending

0:53:27.920 --> 0:53:30.440
<v Speaker 2>them wire transfers and he's robbing me. He's not paying

0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:33.680
<v Speaker 2>my bills. But my biggest fear at that moment was like,

0:53:33.719 --> 0:53:36.600
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, my mother's house. We didn't pay the

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:38.920
<v Speaker 2>mortgage for my mother's house. That would have been the

0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:40.960
<v Speaker 2>worst thing that ever happened to me, for somebody to

0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:43.319
<v Speaker 2>show up to my mother's house and throw out my

0:53:43.360 --> 0:53:47.000
<v Speaker 2>mother and father. I cared about their house, and they

0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:50.480
<v Speaker 2>live in a modest house. I care about their house

0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:54.560
<v Speaker 2>more than mine. That's just it's just me.

0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's that like when it feels like everyone's like

0:53:57.239 --> 0:53:59.680
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to take care of people with an accounting friend,

0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:00.759
<v Speaker 1>people stealing from you.

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:02.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean that man, they stole from me a lot

0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:04.919
<v Speaker 2>of times. But I realized is just not too many

0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:10.000
<v Speaker 2>people can have access to money and not have the

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:13.560
<v Speaker 2>temptation of stealing. And so you learned, you know, I'm

0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:17.880
<v Speaker 2>a very trusting person. You know, I'm a very trusting person.

0:54:17.960 --> 0:54:20.400
<v Speaker 2>So but you learn that these guys they can't handle that.

0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:25.799
<v Speaker 2>And so catching your best friends stealing from you, catching managers,

0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:28.480
<v Speaker 2>catching accounts. We just caught an accountant. Now we shoot

0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:31.719
<v Speaker 2>them with millions of dollars and so now they got

0:54:31.760 --> 0:54:34.200
<v Speaker 2>to pay back, you know, through the insurance or whatever

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:36.319
<v Speaker 2>the case may be. But we went through a lawsuit,

0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:39.200
<v Speaker 2>forensic account these people, you bring them to your house

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:43.520
<v Speaker 2>like their family, you around their kids like and you know,

0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and they and they're stealing your money and so and

0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 2>you're so busy working trying to get to money that

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:53.960
<v Speaker 2>you ain't busy watching. Oh I got five dollars deposited

0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:55.759
<v Speaker 2>in the bank, I got this and this and that.

0:54:56.280 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 2>So it's like, you know, uh, they pray on you

0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:02.600
<v Speaker 2>when they figure out, oh, he ain't watching. Yeah, but

0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:06.080
<v Speaker 2>everybody comes out in the in the wash, Well, don't

0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:08.160
<v Speaker 2>come out in the rash, comes out in the rents.

0:55:09.719 --> 0:55:14.840
<v Speaker 1>How hard is it to stay trusting and soft hearted

0:55:14.920 --> 0:55:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and a good person when when.

0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:19.080
<v Speaker 2>These things happen, that's just who I am.

0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:21.440
<v Speaker 1>You're going to carry on being that way because that's

0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:22.080
<v Speaker 1>who you want to be.

0:55:22.719 --> 0:55:26.120
<v Speaker 2>That's who I am. A lot of times, you know, uh,

0:55:27.200 --> 0:55:29.640
<v Speaker 2>people done stuff to me, not just still, but just

0:55:30.320 --> 0:55:33.080
<v Speaker 2>where you know, me and my wife have discussions and

0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:35.960
<v Speaker 2>she's like, yo, don't change you. Know. You are who

0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:39.480
<v Speaker 2>you are. You can't let people change you because a

0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:42.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of times we dread things and people do horrible

0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:46.560
<v Speaker 2>stuff to us, and then you yourself could become that person,

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:49.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, and so we're not doing it. You know,

0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I told you the story of I was bullied and

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:54.480
<v Speaker 2>then became the bully. And so we don't let people

0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:57.880
<v Speaker 2>affect who are true morals and our true character is

0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:01.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, it happens, hurts you move on.

0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's true. Yeah, what what we often

0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:07.480
<v Speaker 1>judging a person is who we become because you're thinking

0:56:07.520 --> 0:56:10.400
<v Speaker 1>about that quality in them so much that all of

0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:12.160
<v Speaker 1>a sudden that becomes your reality.

0:56:12.360 --> 0:56:17.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Because you repeat that, you think like, yo, you know, yeah,

0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:18.880
<v Speaker 2>they did it to me, I'm gonna do it to

0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:22.399
<v Speaker 2>somebody else. And it's just a cycle that you got

0:56:22.400 --> 0:56:25.839
<v Speaker 2>to snap yourself out of, you know, and people you don't,

0:56:26.120 --> 0:56:28.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't, you don't think that that's cool

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:31.320
<v Speaker 2>because you've seen somebody do that. You know, you gotta

0:56:31.440 --> 0:56:35.680
<v Speaker 2>you gotta say this is this. But that's how the

0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:39.520
<v Speaker 2>story to my life is all about taking the negative

0:56:39.560 --> 0:56:44.080
<v Speaker 2>and turning it into a positive and stopping the years

0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:50.120
<v Speaker 2>of being poor, not being successful, not going to another

0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:53.600
<v Speaker 2>level of my family treat From here on, I want

0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:56.640
<v Speaker 2>to pass it down to my sons, my daughters, my

0:56:56.760 --> 0:57:00.600
<v Speaker 2>grandkids and how and give them that motivation to change

0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:04.160
<v Speaker 2>that family tree because before me, everybody, you know, we

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:07.080
<v Speaker 2>hard workers, but they end up being you know, poor

0:57:07.120 --> 0:57:11.359
<v Speaker 2>regular people, and so that's that's that's why I press on.

0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:14.319
<v Speaker 2>That's why I'm in six cities and in one week.

0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:17.480
<v Speaker 2>That's why I'm like, you know, it's not greed, it's

0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:21.840
<v Speaker 2>just taking it to another level so that generations behind

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:25.400
<v Speaker 2>me could follow that example. I don't know if it's

0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:28.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not telling you I got money the last generations.

0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:32.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you that I've given them that motivation where

0:57:32.280 --> 0:57:35.240
<v Speaker 2>they can say, my grandfather, you know, my great grandfather,

0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:38.120
<v Speaker 2>this guy he worked six days out the week. He

0:57:38.160 --> 0:57:40.840
<v Speaker 2>flew like the fly, he flew he did, you know,

0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:45.600
<v Speaker 2>just that, you know, to change the whole mindset of

0:57:45.680 --> 0:57:47.960
<v Speaker 2>our family tree before me. Yeah.

0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that's powerful and needed because I feel like

0:57:52.400 --> 0:57:54.800
<v Speaker 1>if people are seeing, like even you at your career,

0:57:54.960 --> 0:57:56.880
<v Speaker 1>at this stage, you're still working that hard. And that's

0:57:56.880 --> 0:57:58.960
<v Speaker 1>why I see when I look at people in the

0:57:58.960 --> 0:58:01.880
<v Speaker 1>industry that come on the show that have been famous

0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:04.840
<v Speaker 1>for three decades, you know, making money for three decades,

0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:06.400
<v Speaker 1>and they're still working harder today.

0:58:06.960 --> 0:58:09.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, there was guys like that, oh what's my man?

0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Richard Simmons, Richard Simmons. It was guys that I wish

0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I knew their names that they used to have something

0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:23.840
<v Speaker 2>called was it family squares or oh back in the days. Well,

0:58:23.880 --> 0:58:26.800
<v Speaker 2>they would take these squares like it's like tic tac toe,

0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:29.440
<v Speaker 2>and they don't have your celebrity that've been around for

0:58:29.560 --> 0:58:33.720
<v Speaker 2>thirty years and the damn that's very famous in America,

0:58:33.800 --> 0:58:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Like now we got hip hop squares, but Hollywood squares.

0:58:37.800 --> 0:58:41.360
<v Speaker 2>So they would take Jay Shetty twenty years from now

0:58:41.400 --> 0:58:43.440
<v Speaker 2>and you'll be up there answering the question of this.

0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:47.280
<v Speaker 2>So they've been doing this a long time. You know,

0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:51.000
<v Speaker 2>there's been celebrities that held one. You know, you'll always

0:58:51.080 --> 0:58:55.160
<v Speaker 2>get a Danny DeVito Jersey Subs commercial or something like.

0:58:55.440 --> 0:58:58.360
<v Speaker 2>These guys been sticking around a while. And so that's

0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:01.600
<v Speaker 2>fat Joe. You know, I'm mady here. You know I

0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:03.479
<v Speaker 2>want to stick around. You know, I want to bump

0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:05.680
<v Speaker 2>into you in a red carpet. I wanted this, you know,

0:59:05.760 --> 0:59:07.400
<v Speaker 2>that's that's what I want to do.

0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that. I mean talking you were talking

0:59:09.400 --> 0:59:11.880
<v Speaker 1>about kid taking care of your parents. A big fut

0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:13.480
<v Speaker 1>for you is it was taken care of, like you said,

0:59:13.480 --> 0:59:16.080
<v Speaker 1>future generations. And I know that you are father to

0:59:16.120 --> 0:59:20.160
<v Speaker 1>a child who has Down syndrome autism and as far

0:59:20.200 --> 0:59:22.480
<v Speaker 1>as I know, at least at the time, you were

0:59:22.520 --> 0:59:24.480
<v Speaker 1>a single parent for a while, or maybe even.

0:59:24.280 --> 0:59:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm a kid, I was a kid. We was

0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:31.000
<v Speaker 2>like nineteen, you know, so me and his mother was together.

0:59:31.120 --> 0:59:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Then we broke up and there was this one rainy

0:59:34.520 --> 0:59:37.920
<v Speaker 2>day she walked up. We had some like makeup sex.

0:59:38.120 --> 0:59:41.800
<v Speaker 2>She comes back, she says she's pregnant. I tell I

0:59:41.800 --> 0:59:45.680
<v Speaker 2>don't want to be with you, you know, and she's like, no,

0:59:45.880 --> 0:59:48.720
<v Speaker 2>this is my baby, this, this that. So thank god

0:59:49.480 --> 0:59:55.760
<v Speaker 2>we didn't have an abortion. But Joey's born and it's crazy.

0:59:55.760 --> 0:59:58.760
<v Speaker 2>He's born in the same hospital that my sister caught

0:59:58.800 --> 1:00:03.840
<v Speaker 2>the coma in prong Lebanon Hospital. So if I get shot,

1:00:03.880 --> 1:00:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to another hospital. I'm not going there, trust me.

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<v Speaker 2>And so, uh, you know, the doctor comes and says, listen,

1:00:12.680 --> 1:00:15.000
<v Speaker 2>we got bad news. I'll never forget that. And he

1:00:15.040 --> 1:00:17.360
<v Speaker 2>sat me down at her and she was like, oh,

1:00:17.440 --> 1:00:20.080
<v Speaker 2>I can't raise this baby. We got to give him

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<v Speaker 2>away for adoption. And then my mother and father just

1:00:23.720 --> 1:00:25.480
<v Speaker 2>jumped in, right, I mean, it was like, oh, no,

1:00:25.560 --> 1:00:29.080
<v Speaker 2>this is our baby. We're not doing that. And so

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<v Speaker 2>we've had full custody since he was born. I got

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<v Speaker 2>to thank my mother and my father for pretty much

1:00:36.960 --> 1:00:41.440
<v Speaker 2>raising Joey. You know, he's he's their kid. You know,

1:00:41.520 --> 1:00:45.120
<v Speaker 2>he's my kid, you know, but he's their kid. You know.

1:00:45.240 --> 1:00:48.600
<v Speaker 2>My father to this day sleeps next to Joey, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the same bed, you know. And now my father's older,

1:00:52.240 --> 1:00:55.160
<v Speaker 2>and Joey watches him. So Joey, if my father sleeps

1:00:55.160 --> 1:00:58.880
<v Speaker 2>too long, whatever, Joey's in his wheelchair, he's watching my father.

1:00:59.360 --> 1:01:02.600
<v Speaker 2>He didn't want my office outside telling jokes. He's happy

1:01:02.640 --> 1:01:06.200
<v Speaker 2>that he's telling jokes. You know. He's a very smart kid,

1:01:06.240 --> 1:01:10.080
<v Speaker 2>and we just say he's our biggest blessing. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like if I would have abandoned Joey, I would have

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<v Speaker 2>never had the success I have, you know. I feel like,

1:01:16.560 --> 1:01:20.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's hard to deal with a special needs kid,

1:01:21.200 --> 1:01:24.080
<v Speaker 2>but they bring so much joy to the world. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you know me and you we get sad, we

1:01:26.600 --> 1:01:30.240
<v Speaker 2>get happy. We're talking about depression. This guy is always happy,

1:01:30.920 --> 1:01:34.880
<v Speaker 2>like he's in the state of happy. You know. Sure,

1:01:34.960 --> 1:01:36.720
<v Speaker 2>we want to, you know, if he could have talked,

1:01:36.720 --> 1:01:40.400
<v Speaker 2>if he could have walked, you know, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I tell you, part of my process of not

1:01:44.040 --> 1:01:50.440
<v Speaker 2>being depressed, not being mad, not blaming God. Right, he

1:01:50.520 --> 1:01:53.680
<v Speaker 2>is always saying the right dealing with this is what

1:01:53.720 --> 1:01:55.840
<v Speaker 2>it is. We did it, and we got to look

1:01:55.880 --> 1:02:00.680
<v Speaker 2>forward towards the positive. And so so ever, you know,

1:02:00.800 --> 1:02:03.600
<v Speaker 2>blame God. I never blamed nobody. I just said, Yo,

1:02:03.720 --> 1:02:06.680
<v Speaker 2>this is what it is. We love him, he's ours.

1:02:06.800 --> 1:02:09.520
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna take care of him forever. We're gonna make

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<v Speaker 2>sure he's great, he's loved, he's happy. And so that's

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<v Speaker 2>how we deal with Joey. And another thing, I never,

1:02:17.840 --> 1:02:21.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, blame God for anything. You know, I accept

1:02:21.600 --> 1:02:23.600
<v Speaker 2>the good and the bad. You know, my belief and

1:02:23.680 --> 1:02:27.080
<v Speaker 2>my faith in God is just is legendary, and I

1:02:27.080 --> 1:02:29.920
<v Speaker 2>believe that all our blessings come from God. You know,

1:02:30.000 --> 1:02:32.920
<v Speaker 2>that's my true belief in my heart. And so just

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<v Speaker 2>let your audience know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, that's beautiful. I mean with Joey specifically, like

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<v Speaker 1>what was the most challenging phase, And because I know

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<v Speaker 1>you do a lot to say in power communities, raise

1:02:43.640 --> 1:02:45.720
<v Speaker 1>awareness about this because of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, it's hard, you know. And then going back to

1:02:48.880 --> 1:02:52.560
<v Speaker 2>the hip hop ravotal being tough. So for many years

1:02:52.920 --> 1:02:56.040
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't let people see Joey or nothing like that

1:02:56.120 --> 1:03:00.840
<v Speaker 2>because hip hop was so beef prob. You know, I

1:03:00.880 --> 1:03:04.640
<v Speaker 2>never wanted nobody to disrespect my son and so but

1:03:05.120 --> 1:03:09.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, we always you know, I had this loving relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. The bottom line is, you know, in life,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever God throws at you, or whatever they throw at you,

1:03:17.200 --> 1:03:19.440
<v Speaker 2>you gotta deal with it. You got to man up,

1:03:20.000 --> 1:03:22.480
<v Speaker 2>you know. And I'm proud of the job we've done

1:03:22.520 --> 1:03:26.520
<v Speaker 2>with Joey. He's just a beautiful kid, you know, and

1:03:27.680 --> 1:03:30.640
<v Speaker 2>you know he knows he's the dawn. You know. When

1:03:30.680 --> 1:03:33.200
<v Speaker 2>we go to dinner with my son and my daughter,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he sits at the corner of the table

1:03:35.560 --> 1:03:38.040
<v Speaker 2>and looks at them like this my little brother, this

1:03:38.240 --> 1:03:41.920
<v Speaker 2>my little sister. You know he knows that. So he's

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest blessing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's beautiful, man. It sounds like you know, again I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going back to what you said at the start of

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<v Speaker 1>the interview, is that the guy who made the music,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact Joe that make that music, is very different

1:03:53.360 --> 1:03:55.160
<v Speaker 1>to the Joe that I'm sitting with. Twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>What are the biggest differences in what's love of lean

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<v Speaker 1>back all the way out? Like, what's the difference between

1:04:04.480 --> 1:04:05.520
<v Speaker 1>that and.

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<v Speaker 2>All I can tell you is that with every one

1:04:07.760 --> 1:04:12.040
<v Speaker 2>of those songs, you describe my backwards to the wall.

1:04:12.120 --> 1:04:14.160
<v Speaker 2>I was fighting for my life. The only way I

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<v Speaker 2>knew how to make it was through music, and so

1:04:17.240 --> 1:04:23.120
<v Speaker 2>I channeled these energy and this music, and thank god,

1:04:23.160 --> 1:04:27.480
<v Speaker 2>they became anthems and hits. But uh, you know, fat Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>the person has always been different. You know, I've always

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<v Speaker 2>been a family man. I've always been for my community.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, before we had social media, before we had things.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've been raising money for people. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>giving back to my community, computers to schools, libraries, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a business in the Bronx Now was a

1:04:49.520 --> 1:04:52.160
<v Speaker 2>sneakers called Sneaker store called up in y Cea. We

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<v Speaker 2>have a school in the store where the kids come

1:04:55.400 --> 1:04:58.560
<v Speaker 2>after school, they eat, they learn computers, they get mentored.

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<v Speaker 2>They I mean, we don't stop. You know, just last

1:05:01.800 --> 1:05:05.720
<v Speaker 2>week we gave to Haiti. Right Rich, My best friend

1:05:05.920 --> 1:05:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Rich is Haitian. So the turmoil and everything that's going

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<v Speaker 2>on in Haiti where kids aren't famine, you know, and

1:05:16.160 --> 1:05:18.640
<v Speaker 2>for some reason, I feel like they don't get this awareness.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like they don't get this same love as

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<v Speaker 2>anybody else. So we raised a bunch of food for

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<v Speaker 2>Haiti and money, and so you know, we've been doing

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<v Speaker 2>this when the cameras is off. Man. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>just feel so blessed that I'm able right now when

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<v Speaker 2>I cut it with you if I want to eat

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<v Speaker 2>a steak or lobsocky eat it, whatever I want, I

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<v Speaker 2>to get it. I'm not feeling bad about that I

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<v Speaker 2>worked for it, you know, but I do believe in Yo,

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<v Speaker 2>what about dumb you know what I'm saying. What about

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<v Speaker 2>taking care of the less fortunate? What about providing for

1:05:49.600 --> 1:05:52.360
<v Speaker 2>the people. So we've been like this whatever, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>now it's social media.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's nice to be able to see it though,

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like, like we were talking about, there

1:05:57.440 --> 1:05:59.760
<v Speaker 1>are so many dark moments in your life, but even

1:05:59.760 --> 1:06:01.440
<v Speaker 1>see with you for a few moments, I'm like, you

1:06:01.440 --> 1:06:06.160
<v Speaker 1>have a light energy about you right like as in you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, what's so crazy is there's this video going viral.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why something here is going viral. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what it is. You can't put a camera

1:06:14.240 --> 1:06:17.000
<v Speaker 2>on fat Joe and it that just don't go viral.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going There's no way around there. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know. I said, it's going. I don't know what

1:06:23.040 --> 1:06:26.440
<v Speaker 2>to tell you is something's gone right. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>did an interview maybe a year ago, right, And I

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<v Speaker 2>remember I was tired and the guy came up to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I was at Vegas and I wanted to get some sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>I flew and he's like, fat Joe man, I got

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<v Speaker 2>a podcast. I want you to do it. And somehow

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<v Speaker 2>I allowed them in my room, dead tired, and he

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<v Speaker 2>interviewed me and I said, I told the story about

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<v Speaker 2>one time when I was young. You know, when I

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<v Speaker 2>was in high school, I robbed my whole gym class.

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<v Speaker 2>So I stuck up the gym class. It's like seventy students.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, without a gun. I said there, without a gun.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I robbed everybody. In fact, the guys that

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<v Speaker 2>robbed helped me carry the jets and the walkman's and

1:07:01.400 --> 1:07:05.160
<v Speaker 2>stuff outside school. I couldn't even carry. It was seventy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. But it was it was. It was it

1:07:07.720 --> 1:07:11.280
<v Speaker 2>was power tripping. It was it was like see if

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<v Speaker 2>I could do it right. But in any case, I

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<v Speaker 2>told this story right, And now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know yesterday and today it's been virabl Mania

1:07:20.040 --> 1:07:22.920
<v Speaker 2>like and everybody's like, oh, this guy's a liar, Like

1:07:23.000 --> 1:07:25.680
<v Speaker 2>I can't be like, you know, it's that type of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I looked at it, uh today this morning when

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<v Speaker 2>I got in the car, and I said, man, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>You believe this guy who tells this story raises food

1:07:35.720 --> 1:07:39.000
<v Speaker 2>and money for Haiti just last weekend and gets back

1:07:39.040 --> 1:07:41.200
<v Speaker 2>to the community and this and that. It's just such

1:07:41.200 --> 1:07:48.280
<v Speaker 2>a contradiction. And so UH Puerto Rico, we sent a

1:07:48.320 --> 1:07:52.240
<v Speaker 2>million pounds of UH. We send a million pounds of

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<v Speaker 2>women's hygiens food water when they had the hurricane, you know,

1:07:57.520 --> 1:08:01.960
<v Speaker 2>it was four airplanes we sent them over there. Just

1:08:02.040 --> 1:08:08.360
<v Speaker 2>last year, some Muslims from the Bronx UH seventeen of

1:08:08.400 --> 1:08:11.120
<v Speaker 2>them died and the fire. We raised over two million

1:08:11.200 --> 1:08:14.120
<v Speaker 2>dollars for them. And so we just constantly but you

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<v Speaker 2>know me, it's like to the point out there, be careful,

1:08:16.560 --> 1:08:19.519
<v Speaker 2>careful what you wish for, because soon as something happened,

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<v Speaker 2>they knocking on that door and they're like yo, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like a and I'm with you guys. What

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing, man, How we're raising the money, How we

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<v Speaker 2>gonna you know, how we're gonna make this happen. But

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<v Speaker 2>I love that, you know. I tell you a story.

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<v Speaker 2>One day, I'm driving by myself and I'm in the

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<v Speaker 2>Rose Royce and I gotta get gas and I pull

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<v Speaker 2>over in the Bronx. That's where I'm from. You let

1:08:42.960 --> 1:08:46.040
<v Speaker 2>me telling. I'm the King of the Bronx. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I go to the Bronx, I go to gas station.

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<v Speaker 2>I go to the gas station to get me a water.

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<v Speaker 2>When I'm coming out as a homeless guy there. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy ain't homeless by choice. He ain't one of

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<v Speaker 2>these hoboes. He's homeless, you know all you want. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a real man. What's in right? And so he comes

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<v Speaker 2>fat Joe, and I said, could we curse on this? Yeah, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>and you fly mother for you? You fly mother? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>He's dead homeless, Like he says, I don't want no money.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want no money. So I'm like, yo, what's up?

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I just want you to know a homeless

1:09:29.280 --> 1:09:33.080
<v Speaker 2>man is the closest to the street. We know what

1:09:33.120 --> 1:09:35.479
<v Speaker 2>you do out here for us, we know how you

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<v Speaker 2>take care of us. Or I got so emotional that

1:09:38.920 --> 1:09:41.200
<v Speaker 2>day driving home, I was like, well that's what it's

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<v Speaker 2>about when you got a homeless dude talking about Yo.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want no money, but I know what you

1:09:46.200 --> 1:09:48.439
<v Speaker 2>do for us. I know how you take care of us.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Wow, that's what it's all about. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, absolutely, And that's I think doing good in silence

1:09:58.160 --> 1:10:03.000
<v Speaker 1>is what real doing good is because you know, then

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<v Speaker 1>you're really doing it for the people. Then you're really

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<v Speaker 1>doing it for the people that you're serving.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of friends Muslim friends.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I'm Christian, right, but a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>my best friends are Muslims and they're very successful, but

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<v Speaker 4>they have big hearts and they give back so much.

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<v Speaker 2>But and they never brag. They never say I gave this.

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<v Speaker 2>I never gave that. I never gave this. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>a whole different culture. And so you know, I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>them the way they move. You know, I love how

1:10:44.520 --> 1:10:47.480
<v Speaker 2>they move with how they give back to their community,

1:10:48.200 --> 1:10:50.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, and they're not trying to shame their community

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<v Speaker 2>by giving back. They just you know, embrace them, give it,

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<v Speaker 2>let's move on. It's thank God that we can give back.

1:10:57.200 --> 1:10:59.560
<v Speaker 2>That's the whole thing. Yeah, you know, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to God that he gave you an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>give back, and I believe you know, you know, I

1:11:07.960 --> 1:11:15.000
<v Speaker 2>went to a funeral one time and you know it

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<v Speaker 2>hit me. It was well I knew this before that,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was Revenu Shopton. He was at a funeral

1:11:21.600 --> 1:11:25.280
<v Speaker 2>and he said, you know, when you die, nobody cares

1:11:25.320 --> 1:11:29.000
<v Speaker 2>what car you drive, Nobody cares what clothes you had,

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody cares what this. What they want to know is

1:11:31.360 --> 1:11:35.160
<v Speaker 2>what did you do for the people? And it resonated

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<v Speaker 2>with me so much because it's like, what are you

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<v Speaker 2>doing for the people? You know were happy for you.

1:11:41.439 --> 1:11:44.720
<v Speaker 2>You're successful, you're living a great life this but what

1:11:44.880 --> 1:11:47.599
<v Speaker 2>did you do? How did you come back and give

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<v Speaker 2>to the community. How did you come and change lives?

1:11:51.000 --> 1:11:54.759
<v Speaker 2>How did you mentor people? How did you put people

1:11:55.600 --> 1:11:58.599
<v Speaker 2>give them jobs? So that you know, in my store,

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<v Speaker 2>both two of my three store was own two stores.

1:12:01.520 --> 1:12:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Two of my stores, the managers a single parent mothers.

1:12:05.400 --> 1:12:08.000
<v Speaker 2>One of them just bought a first house and she

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<v Speaker 2>called me one day, I get it, yo, man, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so happy I bought my first house. I know what

1:12:13.439 --> 1:12:16.519
<v Speaker 2>you mean now, Joe, and you like, yo, you know

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<v Speaker 2>you know we're doing this so you could change your life.

1:12:20.120 --> 1:12:25.519
<v Speaker 2>So these impactful stories, uh, they make they make the legacy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they make everything. And that's how I look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you think do you think hip hop's changing

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<v Speaker 1>slightly when you look at like Ja Cole apologizing after

1:12:35.400 --> 1:12:37.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, he got involved in the beef and then

1:12:37.360 --> 1:12:39.519
<v Speaker 1>he stepped back and he actually said, oh, you know what,

1:12:39.760 --> 1:12:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I was being an old version of me. That's not me.

1:12:42.320 --> 1:12:44.680
<v Speaker 1>And if you saw that video, well me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the biggest thing is just yesterday. You know,

1:12:47.000 --> 1:12:50.320
<v Speaker 2>I had one of the biggest, most dangerous rap beefs

1:12:50.360 --> 1:12:54.040
<v Speaker 2>with fifty cent. I was sitting next to him having

1:12:54.040 --> 1:12:57.479
<v Speaker 2>the best time in the world. We're brothers. I get that.

1:12:58.000 --> 1:13:02.280
<v Speaker 2>But when you called out in hip hop, you gotta respond.

1:13:02.880 --> 1:13:05.479
<v Speaker 2>And so I'm a big fan of j Cole, but

1:13:05.520 --> 1:13:08.960
<v Speaker 2>it started from that. So I see, he probably saw

1:13:09.080 --> 1:13:12.080
<v Speaker 2>that they could get real messy and real ugly, and

1:13:12.160 --> 1:13:13.840
<v Speaker 2>so he said, yo, you know what, this ain't me.

1:13:13.920 --> 1:13:17.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't want no parts of it. But he definitely

1:13:17.400 --> 1:13:19.760
<v Speaker 2>got a stripe off his you know whatever, he's a

1:13:19.880 --> 1:13:23.600
<v Speaker 2>sergeant or whatever, he is, the corporal. They took a

1:13:23.600 --> 1:13:26.479
<v Speaker 2>stripe off for that. Because of hip hop, they call

1:13:26.560 --> 1:13:28.920
<v Speaker 2>you out, you come out. You know, that's just what

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a sport.

1:13:30.240 --> 1:13:33.240
<v Speaker 2>That's the sport. You gotta come out. And a guy

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<v Speaker 2>like him, he was you know, he was a king.

1:13:36.920 --> 1:13:39.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, he's so talented. He's a king. So it

1:13:39.360 --> 1:13:43.120
<v Speaker 2>was like, wow, call you did that. But I get it.

1:13:43.200 --> 1:13:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I get all scenarios. He was mature enough to think

1:13:45.920 --> 1:13:49.559
<v Speaker 2>past the lyrical beef and say, yo, this might turn physical.

1:13:50.320 --> 1:13:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I know, it felt like he was kind of like,

1:13:52.439 --> 1:13:54.759
<v Speaker 1>that's just not the energy he wants to play in anymore.

1:13:54.920 --> 1:13:57.160
<v Speaker 2>That's just not I'm not mad at him, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just saying from a real hip hop artist, you know,

1:14:02.560 --> 1:14:04.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, I've been called out and I got to

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<v Speaker 2>step up, even if I think the artist is a

1:14:06.479 --> 1:14:10.679
<v Speaker 2>million times better than me. You know, it's crazy because

1:14:10.720 --> 1:14:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I remember one time a funny battle was ever Last.

1:14:15.120 --> 1:14:19.479
<v Speaker 2>You remember I jump around eminem andem eminem I think

1:14:19.560 --> 1:14:22.280
<v Speaker 2>called them matter. But he came out like Everlast said

1:14:22.280 --> 1:14:24.800
<v Speaker 2>his rhyme. It was incredible and he moved. You know,

1:14:24.880 --> 1:14:28.639
<v Speaker 2>you gotta come out. You know hip hop, you're talking

1:14:28.720 --> 1:14:32.760
<v Speaker 2>all this, somebody calls you out, you gotta step out.

1:14:33.000 --> 1:14:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that interesting. So the sport is this.

1:14:36.120 --> 1:14:40.320
<v Speaker 2>I love Jacob. I'm a huge fan of him. I

1:14:40.439 --> 1:14:44.800
<v Speaker 2>get it from a mature standpoint, but also, you know

1:14:45.400 --> 1:14:47.560
<v Speaker 2>hip hop, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta bring the

1:14:47.600 --> 1:14:50.360
<v Speaker 2>sword out when it's time. Got it, That's what it's about.

1:14:50.560 --> 1:14:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, we were saying earlier that you at the

1:14:53.920 --> 1:14:55.800
<v Speaker 1>we were in the j Lo movie together. You play

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<v Speaker 1>this prominent role.

1:14:59.000 --> 1:14:59.760
<v Speaker 2>In the movie too.

1:15:00.160 --> 1:15:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm in the movie too. I'm a I play What

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<v Speaker 1>am I forgot?

1:15:04.040 --> 1:15:05.200
<v Speaker 2>What is it? What is got?

1:15:05.200 --> 1:15:05.639
<v Speaker 1>The big horn?

1:15:05.840 --> 1:15:06.639
<v Speaker 2>God or something?

1:15:06.760 --> 1:15:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I forgot which one? I forget which astrological

1:15:10.160 --> 1:15:15.439
<v Speaker 1>side of my forgot knowing the big areas? Maybe anyway, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one of the astrological signs. And uh, you played

1:15:18.600 --> 1:15:21.880
<v Speaker 1>the therapist. But it sounds like you've been on would

1:15:21.880 --> 1:15:24.040
<v Speaker 1>you say you've been on some other spiritual journey, a

1:15:24.040 --> 1:15:25.320
<v Speaker 1>healing journey across.

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<v Speaker 2>My whole life. I mean, God has had his hand

1:15:27.640 --> 1:15:30.040
<v Speaker 2>on me. I've been shot at maybe thirty forty times.

1:15:30.600 --> 1:15:33.080
<v Speaker 2>There's times I deserved it. There's times I seen the

1:15:33.080 --> 1:15:35.840
<v Speaker 2>bullet go like this and I knew God was there.

1:15:36.479 --> 1:15:38.320
<v Speaker 2>And so that's why you said, you Joe, why you

1:15:38.360 --> 1:15:40.880
<v Speaker 2>helped the people? I mean, Jesus Man, this guy saved

1:15:40.880 --> 1:15:43.600
<v Speaker 2>my life so many times, like stuff that I was

1:15:43.600 --> 1:15:46.240
<v Speaker 2>supposed to go down for and I never did. And

1:15:46.320 --> 1:15:48.679
<v Speaker 2>so I'm like, wow, I'm just so grateful to God

1:15:48.720 --> 1:15:51.360
<v Speaker 2>that I got to help the people. I gotta spread

1:15:51.360 --> 1:15:53.920
<v Speaker 2>the message. I gotta say I'm faithful to Jesus Christ.

1:15:54.040 --> 1:15:57.000
<v Speaker 2>That's my God. My Lord has save you. So uh,

1:15:57.479 --> 1:16:00.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, my whole life is a spiritual journey and

1:16:00.840 --> 1:16:08.200
<v Speaker 2>and just me being the leader, uh in my community.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how many people's lives are saved. You know

1:16:10.600 --> 1:16:13.599
<v Speaker 2>how many killers came to me. It was like, Joe,

1:16:13.640 --> 1:16:16.040
<v Speaker 2>could I talk to you? And yeah, I'm homeboy, dis

1:16:16.240 --> 1:16:18.840
<v Speaker 2>me I'm gonna kill him. And I sat with them

1:16:18.880 --> 1:16:21.439
<v Speaker 2>and literally, I tell you, I don't drink. Sat with

1:16:21.520 --> 1:16:25.479
<v Speaker 2>them all night and drank Hannessy with him to convince

1:16:25.520 --> 1:16:28.439
<v Speaker 2>him not to kill that guy. And that guy never

1:16:28.520 --> 1:16:30.600
<v Speaker 2>knew that I'm the guy who convinced this guy not

1:16:30.680 --> 1:16:33.240
<v Speaker 2>to kill that guy. I don't even like that guy,

1:16:33.680 --> 1:16:35.400
<v Speaker 2>but I don't want my friend to go to jail.

1:16:36.400 --> 1:16:39.400
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, yo, bro, he nah, that ain't there.

1:16:39.400 --> 1:16:41.439
<v Speaker 2>It don't worry regard to deal with that guy. This

1:16:41.960 --> 1:16:46.120
<v Speaker 2>usually I'm serious. I mean time talk to I've been

1:16:46.160 --> 1:16:49.519
<v Speaker 2>a therapist my whole life, talking people off the edge.

1:16:49.520 --> 1:16:52.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, man, like yo, you know, it's like,

1:16:52.920 --> 1:16:55.599
<v Speaker 2>forget about it. I got a friend now he's fighting cancer.

1:16:55.600 --> 1:16:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Shout out pretty low. It came back and went away

1:16:59.000 --> 1:17:01.120
<v Speaker 2>and came back. Now he just got the thing thing

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<v Speaker 2>that and then you know, I gotta go in there.

1:17:04.360 --> 1:17:06.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, now I gotta go to that. He says,

1:17:06.920 --> 1:17:09.360
<v Speaker 2>you're on the list. You're beside my wife. You're the

1:17:09.360 --> 1:17:12.160
<v Speaker 2>only person to wear on the list. He got hundreds

1:17:12.200 --> 1:17:15.000
<v Speaker 2>of friends, but I'm the one on the list. I'm

1:17:15.000 --> 1:17:16.560
<v Speaker 2>the guy that gotta go in there and pray with

1:17:16.680 --> 1:17:19.240
<v Speaker 2>pretty little and see him fighting the cancer and this,

1:17:19.840 --> 1:17:22.200
<v Speaker 2>and so it's tough for me. People don't really really

1:17:22.240 --> 1:17:26.800
<v Speaker 2>realize in all one day's work, I'll come do this.

1:17:27.479 --> 1:17:29.880
<v Speaker 2>I'll go to an old lady I know's funeral, after

1:17:30.560 --> 1:17:34.840
<v Speaker 2>pay for the funeral. Uh, then go and make a

1:17:34.880 --> 1:17:39.320
<v Speaker 2>song later. And like, you know, my life is crazy.

1:17:39.400 --> 1:17:42.320
<v Speaker 2>So it's almost like I'm like I'm a hip hop

1:17:42.360 --> 1:17:47.320
<v Speaker 2>evangelist at all times. So like this is every single day,

1:17:47.520 --> 1:17:49.120
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Way, I gotta you know,

1:17:49.600 --> 1:17:51.799
<v Speaker 2>I can't just be fat. Joe the Rapper I gotta

1:17:51.840 --> 1:17:57.200
<v Speaker 2>go and heal the people in a strange way.

1:17:57.080 --> 1:17:58.840
<v Speaker 1>And you go on your business venture too, right, Like,

1:17:58.920 --> 1:17:59.880
<v Speaker 1>that's part of.

1:18:00.520 --> 1:18:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Why fight the time when you can read? Now, listen,

1:18:05.600 --> 1:18:08.639
<v Speaker 2>let me tell you something. You don't need it now,

1:18:08.840 --> 1:18:12.200
<v Speaker 2>but one day you might need. Your wife tells you

1:18:12.320 --> 1:18:15.320
<v Speaker 2>she loves the salt and pepper. She's lying. You gotta

1:18:15.360 --> 1:18:19.479
<v Speaker 2>stay in the game, it guys, Why fight the time

1:18:19.840 --> 1:18:22.800
<v Speaker 2>when you can rewind? The time is rewinded. The number

1:18:22.800 --> 1:18:26.000
<v Speaker 2>one product we have it in Sally's Beauty is the

1:18:26.080 --> 1:18:29.599
<v Speaker 2>number one product man or female. And so we got

1:18:29.680 --> 1:18:32.880
<v Speaker 2>rid of the stigma. We got Travis Kelce on the box.

1:18:32.960 --> 1:18:35.880
<v Speaker 2>We got Tyson Beckford, one of the biggest supermodels in

1:18:35.920 --> 1:18:39.880
<v Speaker 2>the world. We got Dj Khaled I mean, John Carlo Novella,

1:18:40.000 --> 1:18:45.040
<v Speaker 2>famous guy. And so you know, I've been the one

1:18:45.080 --> 1:18:48.320
<v Speaker 2>thing you can bully me or clown me for is

1:18:48.360 --> 1:18:51.599
<v Speaker 2>I hate white here. And so since I was twenty seven,

1:18:51.640 --> 1:18:53.519
<v Speaker 2>I was getting white hen and I've been using all

1:18:53.520 --> 1:18:56.360
<v Speaker 2>these other products. Some of them have burned my skin.

1:18:56.560 --> 1:18:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Some of them it ain't true to color. If I

1:18:58.880 --> 1:19:01.240
<v Speaker 2>get a brown and a look purple, you know they

1:19:01.280 --> 1:19:04.759
<v Speaker 2>clown me. On Twitter, Joe got the shoe polys on again.

1:19:05.120 --> 1:19:08.439
<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to be create a product alone with

1:19:08.439 --> 1:19:11.800
<v Speaker 2>my sister, Carolyn Aaronson and Jeff Averison. They own it's

1:19:11.800 --> 1:19:16.400
<v Speaker 2>a tents, they own women's hair products. It's the billion

1:19:16.400 --> 1:19:19.519
<v Speaker 2>dollar company. So we're best friends. We've been on vacation

1:19:19.640 --> 1:19:22.880
<v Speaker 2>with each other fifteen sixteen years, my wife and her

1:19:23.040 --> 1:19:25.200
<v Speaker 2>best friends. And I was like, yo, candle, let's make

1:19:25.240 --> 1:19:29.519
<v Speaker 2>a product. And it's moving. It's gone, I think in

1:19:29.600 --> 1:19:31.040
<v Speaker 2>another year to be everywhere.

1:19:31.200 --> 1:19:33.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, yeah, no one wants to get bully

1:19:33.160 --> 1:19:34.880
<v Speaker 1>having purple hair or that something.

1:19:35.400 --> 1:19:37.639
<v Speaker 2>All you got to get rid of the stigma. Even

1:19:37.680 --> 1:19:39.120
<v Speaker 2>me when I used to go in there, I used

1:19:39.160 --> 1:19:41.120
<v Speaker 2>to sneak in there almost like I was buying my

1:19:41.160 --> 1:19:44.240
<v Speaker 2>wife some When your wife tells you to buy some tampons,

1:19:44.640 --> 1:19:47.559
<v Speaker 2>that's like recon bro. You diving through the oss. You're

1:19:47.600 --> 1:19:50.080
<v Speaker 2>rolling on the floor. You don't want nobody to hear

1:19:50.160 --> 1:19:53.040
<v Speaker 2>you go off to the counter's evs. You're like, yeah,

1:19:53.560 --> 1:19:55.240
<v Speaker 2>get me out of here. It's the same thing with

1:19:55.320 --> 1:19:57.960
<v Speaker 2>the hair coloring. When men's hair coloring, nobody wants to know,

1:19:58.560 --> 1:20:02.200
<v Speaker 2>and but we get ready to stigma of it because

1:20:02.280 --> 1:20:05.160
<v Speaker 2>men were really ashamed to say they were doing it.

1:20:05.200 --> 1:20:08.120
<v Speaker 2>But I had some artists I stepped two to get

1:20:08.160 --> 1:20:10.080
<v Speaker 2>on the box and they're like, yeah, I don't do that.

1:20:10.160 --> 1:20:14.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, bro, like, yes, you know, you fully rewind,

1:20:14.960 --> 1:20:17.240
<v Speaker 2>but you gotta be kidding me. Bro, you don't use

1:20:17.280 --> 1:20:20.040
<v Speaker 2>the you don't use the product like you know your

1:20:20.040 --> 1:20:23.280
<v Speaker 2>fifty something. Your lines are like this that like your brother.

1:20:23.600 --> 1:20:27.920
<v Speaker 2>I you can tell one million. I'm like a detective.

1:20:28.280 --> 1:20:34.040
<v Speaker 2>One thing I could tell is uh not in a

1:20:34.160 --> 1:20:36.479
<v Speaker 2>terrible way. You do what you want. It ain't my fault.

1:20:36.479 --> 1:20:40.160
<v Speaker 2>But I could tell botox, and I could tell uh

1:20:40.840 --> 1:20:43.479
<v Speaker 2>men's hair color. I just don't know why I could

1:20:43.520 --> 1:20:46.160
<v Speaker 2>just tell. I'm like, all right, you know what I'm saying,

1:20:46.240 --> 1:20:49.320
<v Speaker 2>and you know, let's keep it real. If you sixty

1:20:49.400 --> 1:20:52.800
<v Speaker 2>years old looking thirty, you're doing something, you know it

1:20:52.920 --> 1:20:55.559
<v Speaker 2>is what it is. You know. Smokey Robinson, the living

1:20:55.640 --> 1:20:59.160
<v Speaker 2>legend of Icon. He looked twenty three still, you know,

1:20:59.360 --> 1:21:02.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not disrestracted him. I'm saying, you know,

1:21:02.960 --> 1:21:05.519
<v Speaker 2>that's what he feels, and you know he wants to

1:21:05.520 --> 1:21:08.439
<v Speaker 2>look young till he dies. I restract that and you

1:21:08.520 --> 1:21:09.760
<v Speaker 2>have no problem with that? Yeah?

1:21:09.800 --> 1:21:11.200
<v Speaker 1>For you as well? I mean you went on your

1:21:11.200 --> 1:21:12.240
<v Speaker 1>whole weight loss journey.

1:21:12.320 --> 1:21:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had like that.

1:21:13.200 --> 1:21:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my dad, what was that?

1:21:15.000 --> 1:21:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Like?

1:21:15.280 --> 1:21:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Why did that?

1:21:15.920 --> 1:21:18.479
<v Speaker 2>Because the first thing was big Pun died right from

1:21:18.520 --> 1:21:21.760
<v Speaker 2>my heart attack twenty something. You know, only people I

1:21:21.800 --> 1:21:26.600
<v Speaker 2>knew that god that died were like murdered and you know,

1:21:26.920 --> 1:21:31.040
<v Speaker 2>being twenty seven and dying because you weight that was

1:21:31.080 --> 1:21:33.000
<v Speaker 2>like half the journey. Because I was four hundred and

1:21:33.000 --> 1:21:35.559
<v Speaker 2>eighty pounds at one time. That was half of it.

1:21:36.040 --> 1:21:39.120
<v Speaker 2>Then I had another friend who was another guy twenty

1:21:39.160 --> 1:21:42.240
<v Speaker 2>something years old. He passed away of a heart attack.

1:21:42.840 --> 1:21:45.080
<v Speaker 2>I went to the funeral. He had a daughter like me.

1:21:45.240 --> 1:21:48.000
<v Speaker 2>He was funnier than me. And when I sat there,

1:21:48.200 --> 1:21:52.000
<v Speaker 2>it was almost like an episode of Eberdezias Scrooge where

1:21:52.040 --> 1:21:54.000
<v Speaker 2>he takes you back to look at your life. So

1:21:54.040 --> 1:21:55.600
<v Speaker 2>I looked at it. I was like, oh, this is

1:21:55.680 --> 1:21:59.040
<v Speaker 2>me next. So I had no choice but to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>work out, eat right, stay off the cabs. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know I went through all that.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you set all those habits up? Because those

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<v Speaker 1>are hard things, like people struggle, like.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta live.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just pure motivation from that.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to live, you know, people tell me all

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<v Speaker 2>the time you're not so fat. YOA I just said, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to live, and so this world is

1:22:21.680 --> 1:22:24.840
<v Speaker 2>so beautiful that I just want to live. And every

1:22:24.920 --> 1:22:28.040
<v Speaker 2>day I wake up, I caught some of my friends

1:22:28.080 --> 1:22:31.040
<v Speaker 2>and you believe we got another day. You believe we

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<v Speaker 2>got another day. And so I just want to live.

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<v Speaker 2>So health is wealth, and you could be I got

1:22:40.040 --> 1:22:45.040
<v Speaker 2>a friend he caught a terrible infection. Right. This guy's

1:22:45.080 --> 1:22:47.679
<v Speaker 2>a billionaire. He got a boat bigger than this building,

1:22:48.120 --> 1:22:51.160
<v Speaker 2>He got everything he wants. But we thought he was

1:22:51.240 --> 1:22:53.080
<v Speaker 2>dying for like a year and a half. They couldn't

1:22:53.120 --> 1:22:56.640
<v Speaker 2>find this affection. He got skinny. He was just IV's

1:22:56.760 --> 1:22:58.760
<v Speaker 2>on him, this and this and that, and so thank

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<v Speaker 2>god he snapped back and they found it what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, that's the true meaning of no health

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<v Speaker 2>is wealth. If you ain't got your health and you

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<v Speaker 2>got all the money in the world, you can smile

1:23:10.240 --> 1:23:12.519
<v Speaker 2>at it all you want. But if you ain't got

1:23:12.560 --> 1:23:14.960
<v Speaker 2>your health, you know you ain't got nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how long did it take you?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What was that price?

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<v Speaker 2>Years? Bro? Yes, it was years. I used to at

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<v Speaker 2>one time, when I was really on it, I used

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<v Speaker 2>to work out maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>Three times a day, three times a day, three.

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<v Speaker 2>Times a day. I was like addicted. And if I

1:23:29.280 --> 1:23:31.400
<v Speaker 2>flew to Vegas to do a show, I'd go straight

1:23:31.439 --> 1:23:34.040
<v Speaker 2>in the gym. You know, I wouldn't need a cracker.

1:23:34.080 --> 1:23:36.080
<v Speaker 2>There was that one time I wouldn't need a cracker.

1:23:36.120 --> 1:23:39.280
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't need it like I was just like, you know,

1:23:39.360 --> 1:23:42.439
<v Speaker 2>and every day with the trainer, my man his name

1:23:42.479 --> 1:23:46.320
<v Speaker 2>was the Mind Muscle Connection. He'd be like buying muscle connection,

1:23:46.960 --> 1:23:50.879
<v Speaker 2>and he would come and do all that stuff, pushing

1:23:50.880 --> 1:23:54.280
<v Speaker 2>the eighteen wheeler tire in the middle of ninety degree

1:23:54.360 --> 1:23:58.519
<v Speaker 2>weather box just you know, I did it all, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And and then eventually you learn how to eat, because

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, is the carbs just

1:24:03.880 --> 1:24:07.120
<v Speaker 2>killing us. So it's bread when you eat it, say

1:24:07.160 --> 1:24:11.360
<v Speaker 2>you take a salty pretzel, it turns into sugar, Rice

1:24:11.439 --> 1:24:16.599
<v Speaker 2>turns into sugar, pasta turns into sugar. All these things

1:24:16.640 --> 1:24:19.120
<v Speaker 2>you don't know. And I met people who say, you know,

1:24:19.160 --> 1:24:22.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm diabetic, and they like, I don't even eat sweets.

1:24:22.640 --> 1:24:27.160
<v Speaker 2>But they don't realize that these carbs they're eating is

1:24:27.240 --> 1:24:30.720
<v Speaker 2>actually going in your body as sugar. And so I

1:24:30.760 --> 1:24:33.479
<v Speaker 2>had to teach myself how to eat, you know, Now

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<v Speaker 2>every time I eat, I eat defensively. If I eat bad,

1:24:37.560 --> 1:24:40.200
<v Speaker 2>it's because I really want to eat bad bother than

1:24:40.240 --> 1:24:43.080
<v Speaker 2>that defense. So I'm like, if I get a rice

1:24:43.120 --> 1:24:47.519
<v Speaker 2>in chicken. So yesterday I bought a it's kind of

1:24:47.560 --> 1:24:50.479
<v Speaker 2>whack too or yellow rice with lobster, right, and then

1:24:50.520 --> 1:24:53.200
<v Speaker 2>I brought it to my house. I ate the lobster

1:24:53.840 --> 1:24:57.640
<v Speaker 2>and might have touched the rice like tip tip the

1:24:57.680 --> 1:25:02.639
<v Speaker 2>whole thing in the garbage. Know, if if I eat sushi,

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<v Speaker 2>the least rice in the world, don't try to bring

1:25:05.479 --> 1:25:08.520
<v Speaker 2>the rice. This this that everything I'm eating is defense.

1:25:09.120 --> 1:25:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Everything is defense. Everything is like yo, try to stay

1:25:11.720 --> 1:25:14.360
<v Speaker 2>away from the cab. Try to stay away from the car.

1:25:14.640 --> 1:25:15.479
<v Speaker 2>Get the chicken with.

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<v Speaker 1>The amazing transformation.

1:25:17.520 --> 1:25:22.439
<v Speaker 2>It's like the way you brush your teeth. Hopefully everybody

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<v Speaker 2>here brushes their teeth as soon as you wake up

1:25:25.360 --> 1:25:26.960
<v Speaker 2>twice a day. As soon as you wake up, you

1:25:26.960 --> 1:25:30.920
<v Speaker 2>gotta brush your teeth, right, that's number one, right, And

1:25:31.000 --> 1:25:33.439
<v Speaker 2>so that's how I eat now. Now I eat like

1:25:33.720 --> 1:25:35.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, even if I went and got a sandwich

1:25:35.560 --> 1:25:38.280
<v Speaker 2>right now, somehow I would eat one part of the

1:25:38.320 --> 1:25:41.280
<v Speaker 2>bread in the three parts of the bread, it's still there.

1:25:41.280 --> 1:25:44.320
<v Speaker 2>But I ate the meat. That's how we do, right, Rich,

1:25:45.000 --> 1:25:46.320
<v Speaker 2>That's how we do all the time.

1:25:48.479 --> 1:25:51.080
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing. It's inspiring for others as well. That's weird

1:25:51.240 --> 1:25:51.600
<v Speaker 1>making it.

1:25:51.840 --> 1:25:55.479
<v Speaker 2>I still feel like me, So even though I slimmed up,

1:25:56.160 --> 1:25:58.759
<v Speaker 2>I still feel like the same person. So when people

1:25:58.760 --> 1:26:00.800
<v Speaker 2>tell me all the time, yo, Joe, you know, I'm like,

1:26:00.880 --> 1:26:04.599
<v Speaker 2>what are they talking about? Like, I'm still what's that movie? Hello? Show?

1:26:05.880 --> 1:26:09.320
<v Speaker 2>You don't know? How shout? Shallow? How man I look

1:26:09.320 --> 1:26:11.360
<v Speaker 2>in the mirror? I'm still fat, Joe. I'm like, Yo,

1:26:11.520 --> 1:26:13.280
<v Speaker 2>this day they'd be like, yo, you knows. Wait not

1:26:13.360 --> 1:26:16.639
<v Speaker 2>so fat. Job'll be like, Yo, what's these guys talking about?

1:26:16.960 --> 1:26:20.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm shallow? How you know? It's crazy?

1:26:20.040 --> 1:26:22.680
<v Speaker 1>It's great, Joe, It's been such a joy talking to you, man.

1:26:22.720 --> 1:26:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for your time, your energy. We we end

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<v Speaker 1>every episode with a final five. These have to be

1:26:27.960 --> 1:26:31.200
<v Speaker 1>answered in one word to one sentence maximum. As a

1:26:31.200 --> 1:26:33.559
<v Speaker 1>poet and a rapper, I'm sure this is very doable,

1:26:34.240 --> 1:26:37.040
<v Speaker 1>but fat Joe, these are your fast final five. The

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<v Speaker 1>question one is what is the best advice you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard or received?

1:26:41.680 --> 1:26:47.240
<v Speaker 2>Don't stop keep going? And that's that's that's from DJ Kelly.

1:26:47.160 --> 1:26:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Nice stop keep going that they want you to stop,

1:26:51.880 --> 1:26:52.880
<v Speaker 1>they want you to start.

1:26:52.920 --> 1:26:55.640
<v Speaker 2>He's you know, he's a guy, I tell them, and

1:26:55.680 --> 1:26:58.240
<v Speaker 2>he said, you can't just can't impress Kelly. So I

1:26:58.280 --> 1:27:00.639
<v Speaker 2>told him, Yo, I just got a TV show. Don't stop,

1:27:00.760 --> 1:27:04.920
<v Speaker 2>keep going, keep going. So he keeps me motivating. I

1:27:05.040 --> 1:27:06.400
<v Speaker 2>like that. Okay.

1:27:06.479 --> 1:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Second question, what's the worst advice you've ever had or

1:27:09.040 --> 1:27:09.439
<v Speaker 1>received it?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say the worst advice average received was drugs

1:27:15.080 --> 1:27:21.519
<v Speaker 2>are good. Yo, These drugs are good. Nah, I was,

1:27:21.720 --> 1:27:22.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>Question number three, If they make a movie about your life,

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<v Speaker 1>who's gonna play you?

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a young, handsome, Spanish Latino guy for sure,

1:27:33.920 --> 1:27:36.240
<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna pick them out. I'm gonna make sure

1:27:36.280 --> 1:27:39.160
<v Speaker 2>this guy is fly as hell. But I don't believe

1:27:39.200 --> 1:27:42.200
<v Speaker 2>we have one out there yet. I don't believe the

1:27:42.240 --> 1:27:46.080
<v Speaker 2>guy who plays Fat Joe is a star. Yet. It'll

1:27:46.160 --> 1:27:49.759
<v Speaker 2>be some somebody will host do a casting.

1:27:49.760 --> 1:27:50.759
<v Speaker 1>They're not born yet.

1:27:51.080 --> 1:27:53.759
<v Speaker 2>They're born, but we don't know them yet. They're walking

1:27:53.800 --> 1:27:57.600
<v Speaker 2>around Brooklyn, they're walking around LA they're walking around Chicago

1:27:58.000 --> 1:28:01.679
<v Speaker 2>aspiring artists, but they haven't been on TV or movies yet.

1:28:01.920 --> 1:28:03.720
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen a guy on TV and said, oh

1:28:03.760 --> 1:28:04.559
<v Speaker 2>this Fat Joe.

1:28:04.680 --> 1:28:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, question them before when you were referring

1:28:08.080 --> 1:28:11.080
<v Speaker 1>to movies that it feels like your life has been Sometimes,

1:28:11.080 --> 1:28:12.960
<v Speaker 1>what's a movie that's already out there that you think

1:28:13.400 --> 1:28:17.040
<v Speaker 1>is the best depiction of what it was like? I'm

1:28:17.080 --> 1:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>a movie guy, Yeah, I'm a movie I love movies. Bronxtown, Godfather,

1:28:24.520 --> 1:28:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Godfather guy.

1:28:26.479 --> 1:28:30.559
<v Speaker 2>Right now I'm at that Michael Cole, I'm saying, I

1:28:30.560 --> 1:28:33.280
<v Speaker 2>gotta move a solace now. This is tricky out here.

1:28:33.320 --> 1:28:36.280
<v Speaker 2>I gotta be Michael right now. It's so crazy. Just

1:28:36.400 --> 1:28:40.160
<v Speaker 2>last week, Uh, I was thinking to myself, I said

1:28:40.160 --> 1:28:42.639
<v Speaker 2>that right now, this is this, this is Michael Coley

1:28:42.840 --> 1:28:46.040
<v Speaker 2>on time. It's just so wicked out there. You gotta

1:28:46.080 --> 1:28:48.479
<v Speaker 2>think like Michael, you know what I mean? So I

1:28:48.479 --> 1:28:52.920
<v Speaker 2>would say Godfather, But Bronxtail is definitely, uh, one of

1:28:52.920 --> 1:28:55.040
<v Speaker 2>my favorite movies of all time. I learned a lot

1:28:55.040 --> 1:28:57.360
<v Speaker 2>from Bronxteill. You know, I got shot one time. I

1:28:57.400 --> 1:29:00.160
<v Speaker 2>know we can't go into that now. We did, but

1:29:00.240 --> 1:29:03.440
<v Speaker 2>the guy owed me ten dollars and I kept harassing him,

1:29:03.680 --> 1:29:05.320
<v Speaker 2>and the guy was so scared of me that he

1:29:05.400 --> 1:29:08.599
<v Speaker 2>came back and shot me out of fear. So you've

1:29:08.600 --> 1:29:11.280
<v Speaker 2>seen the movie Bronx Taill when he kept Colodial, kept

1:29:11.360 --> 1:29:14.519
<v Speaker 2>chasing the guy that owed him two dollars, and Sonny

1:29:14.640 --> 1:29:16.680
<v Speaker 2>the Dawn told him, y'all you got rid of him

1:29:16.720 --> 1:29:20.400
<v Speaker 2>for two dollars. I should have learned that in the box.

1:29:21.479 --> 1:29:24.200
<v Speaker 2>You know. So I love movies because I always learned

1:29:24.560 --> 1:29:26.080
<v Speaker 2>so much from movies. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice and fifte and final question. If you could create

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<v Speaker 1>one law that everyone in the world had to follow,

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<v Speaker 1>what would it be?

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<v Speaker 2>One law that everybody else it would be give back

1:29:37.320 --> 1:29:40.960
<v Speaker 2>to the lext fortunate. You know, I got friends that

1:29:41.120 --> 1:29:44.960
<v Speaker 2>are billionaires, and I got a friend I can't tell

1:29:45.000 --> 1:29:49.240
<v Speaker 2>you who he is. He's bigger than everything, bigger than

1:29:49.320 --> 1:29:52.719
<v Speaker 2>rapping everything. This guy's big. His backyard is the beach.

1:29:54.040 --> 1:29:56.719
<v Speaker 2>He has like maybe a two hundred million dollar house

1:29:56.760 --> 1:30:00.479
<v Speaker 2>in the backyard is beach. Got published over sixty books.

1:30:00.920 --> 1:30:03.920
<v Speaker 2>You read his books, and he told me, you know,

1:30:04.520 --> 1:30:06.520
<v Speaker 2>he looked at me and he said, man, you you're

1:30:06.560 --> 1:30:10.439
<v Speaker 2>too generous. Man like what it says the guy with

1:30:10.560 --> 1:30:13.680
<v Speaker 2>a billion dollars. He's like, he says, I'm not like you.

1:30:13.760 --> 1:30:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm not as good as you. I see how you're

1:30:15.360 --> 1:30:17.320
<v Speaker 2>always giving back and all that. He says, I'm not

1:30:18.240 --> 1:30:21.200
<v Speaker 2>He's like, nah, I don't give back. He said, you

1:30:21.240 --> 1:30:24.720
<v Speaker 2>know why when I died, my grandchildren I got the

1:30:24.800 --> 1:30:28.240
<v Speaker 2>more college. That's it. They're not getting my money. You know,

1:30:29.479 --> 1:30:32.200
<v Speaker 2>like wow, you know. So I would tell everybody to

1:30:32.280 --> 1:30:34.840
<v Speaker 2>give back, have a cond heart, get back to the

1:30:34.920 --> 1:30:37.880
<v Speaker 2>less fortunate. If you ain't got none to give back,

1:30:37.920 --> 1:30:42.160
<v Speaker 2>give back your time, whatever you could do for your community.

1:30:43.080 --> 1:30:46.960
<v Speaker 2>You need to do that man, and and try to

1:30:47.080 --> 1:30:49.000
<v Speaker 2>mentor the youth. I always try to tell him the

1:30:49.040 --> 1:30:49.479
<v Speaker 2>right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been seeing you a lot in Washington, DC lately

1:30:51.840 --> 1:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>as well, So tell us about what's going on there.

1:30:54.200 --> 1:30:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Just fighting health price transparency. You know, I teamed up

1:30:58.800 --> 1:31:02.439
<v Speaker 2>with an organization to the patients. One of my friends

1:31:02.520 --> 1:31:05.680
<v Speaker 2>is the founder, Kevin Morra. He's been there, he's been

1:31:05.720 --> 1:31:08.360
<v Speaker 2>my friend for over twenty years. So he teld me

1:31:08.400 --> 1:31:11.120
<v Speaker 2>what's going on in America and how many people it's

1:31:11.160 --> 1:31:17.240
<v Speaker 2>over one hundred million Americans in debt due to health pricing.

1:31:17.760 --> 1:31:21.000
<v Speaker 2>There's one hundred million, they but three one hundred million, right,

1:31:21.040 --> 1:31:24.080
<v Speaker 2>so that's one in three and people losing their families.

1:31:24.120 --> 1:31:25.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, when you go to the hospital, you sign

1:31:26.080 --> 1:31:29.280
<v Speaker 2>over a waiver that says if you can't pay, they

1:31:29.280 --> 1:31:32.880
<v Speaker 2>could take your property. And you know, I read up

1:31:32.880 --> 1:31:38.439
<v Speaker 2>on this Amish family where they had a granddaughter and

1:31:38.520 --> 1:31:41.639
<v Speaker 2>she needed a kidney and they were afraid to take

1:31:41.640 --> 1:31:44.920
<v Speaker 2>her to the hospital and sign the papers because they

1:31:44.920 --> 1:31:49.200
<v Speaker 2>were afraid of losing the farm to get her a kidney.

1:31:49.240 --> 1:31:52.320
<v Speaker 2>And you know, people are scared to go to the

1:31:52.400 --> 1:31:55.240
<v Speaker 2>doctor because of the price. So you see you walk

1:31:55.280 --> 1:31:58.559
<v Speaker 2>around New York, you see people limping, people just getting

1:31:58.560 --> 1:32:00.800
<v Speaker 2>worse and worse because they what do you do You

1:32:00.840 --> 1:32:03.559
<v Speaker 2>send your kid to college or you fix your leg

1:32:04.600 --> 1:32:07.879
<v Speaker 2>or you know, and this is going on like crazy,

1:32:08.040 --> 1:32:12.439
<v Speaker 2>and you know, there's actually a law out there that

1:32:12.600 --> 1:32:14.760
<v Speaker 2>says you got to enforce and you got to tell

1:32:14.840 --> 1:32:18.040
<v Speaker 2>people the price when they're going there. And for some reason,

1:32:18.080 --> 1:32:21.920
<v Speaker 2>they're not enforcing this, and so we're bringing awareness. So

1:32:21.960 --> 1:32:26.240
<v Speaker 2>I've been going to Hollywood. Yeah that's Washington is sort

1:32:26.240 --> 1:32:28.919
<v Speaker 2>of like Hollywood, right, So I've been going to Washington

1:32:29.000 --> 1:32:33.080
<v Speaker 2>dealing with all the politicians trying to get a law pass.

1:32:33.200 --> 1:32:36.640
<v Speaker 2>And Senator bron and Bernie Sanders came up with the

1:32:36.720 --> 1:32:40.479
<v Speaker 2>law but finally says you have to tell us the

1:32:40.520 --> 1:32:45.120
<v Speaker 2>prices not estimates estimates to be us. We want to

1:32:45.160 --> 1:32:48.080
<v Speaker 2>know what it is. And you know what does that

1:32:48.200 --> 1:32:51.439
<v Speaker 2>do for you? It creates competition. Say, I gotta go somewhere.

1:32:51.479 --> 1:32:53.720
<v Speaker 2>I got to get an MRI. I pull up my

1:32:53.800 --> 1:32:57.120
<v Speaker 2>three favorite hospitals. One of them is, believe it or not,

1:32:57.200 --> 1:32:59.360
<v Speaker 2>one of them will be twelve hundred, one of them

1:32:59.360 --> 1:33:01.599
<v Speaker 2>would be twenty eight thousand, one of them will be

1:33:01.680 --> 1:33:05.080
<v Speaker 2>seventy eight hundred. Of course I'm going with the twelve hundred.

1:33:05.400 --> 1:33:08.360
<v Speaker 2>But it makes competition. Now they could charge you whatever

1:33:08.400 --> 1:33:10.760
<v Speaker 2>they want. Yeah, So shout out the powers to the

1:33:10.840 --> 1:33:13.280
<v Speaker 2>patients and all the politicians. Let's make this happen.

1:33:13.360 --> 1:33:16.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's needed. I mean I moved from London to

1:33:16.520 --> 1:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>the US eight years ago, and in London we have

1:33:18.800 --> 1:33:22.519
<v Speaker 1>the National Health Service, the NHS, which is available for

1:33:22.520 --> 1:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>everyone for free. But then and then you have private healthcare.

1:33:26.080 --> 1:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>If you want, like, you know, a particular service, level

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<v Speaker 1>of service you.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to sweep, if you're gonna have a big bend

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<v Speaker 2>totally yes, then of course.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the funny thing. The private healthcare in England

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<v Speaker 1>is actually private in the sense of it's it's an

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<v Speaker 1>elevated experience. It's private healthcare here is like even when

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<v Speaker 1>I moved in, I was playing like five ten thousand

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<v Speaker 1>a year.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, you're like, it doesn't you don't even get me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't get anything. Every time I go for percent,

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<v Speaker 1>still gonna pay. Yeah, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all a gimmick, man. So we're bringing awareness to it.

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<v Speaker 1>The shots brilliant man. No, that's really important. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel that we need to find a way that I can't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so sad to see how many people are on

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<v Speaker 1>the streets or struggling because they can't afford their medical Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's painful. Thank you for doing that. That's amazing. How

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<v Speaker 1>can how can people support help? How can they learn? Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>how can people.

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<v Speaker 2>Follow power to the patients? We always performing on the

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram on social media. Uh, and we out there, man,

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<v Speaker 2>we out there. We're in their faces. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get the job done and help the people. This is

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<v Speaker 2>another way of you know, helping the people using my voice.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I used to say I'm a voice for

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<v Speaker 2>the voiceless, but now I say I'm a voice for

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<v Speaker 2>those unheard, meaning there's people they got a voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Out and it's just you can't well saying thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much, man, appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all live.

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<v Speaker 1>We did it, baby, we did it.

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<v Speaker 5>Finally, it's in the books. If this is the year

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<v Speaker 5>that you're trying to get creative, you're trying to build more,

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<v Speaker 5>I need you to listen to this episode with Rick

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<v Speaker 5>Ruber on how to break into your most creative self,

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<v Speaker 5>how to use unconventional methods that lead to success, and

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<v Speaker 5>the secret to genuinely loving what you do. If you're

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<v Speaker 5>trying to find your passion and your lane, Rick Rubin's

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<v Speaker 5>episode is the one for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Just because I like it, that doesn't give it any value,

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<v Speaker 3>Like as an artist, if you like it, that's all

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<v Speaker 3>of the value.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the success

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<v Speaker 3>Comes when you say I like this enough for other

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<v Speaker 3>people to see it.