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Speaker 1: Welcome to Point Game. I'm CJ. Toldano and I'm joined

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Speaker 1: by my co host Isaiah Thomas. This week we're talking

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Speaker 1: thunder Knicks Lakers, another installment and no days off, talking

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Speaker 1: about everything going on the league. And also we have

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Speaker 1: a big special announcement happening at the end of the show,

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Speaker 1: so you got to stay tuned for that. So first

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Speaker 1: of all, I got to ask my guy here, Isaiah Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I t how was your Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 2: Man? Thanksgiving was good.

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Speaker 3: Got to got to spend time with the family, see

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Speaker 3: some extended family.

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Speaker 2: It was. It was a good time with a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of smiles and full stomachs, so it was it was

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Speaker 3: a really good time.

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Speaker 2: We needed that. How was your Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 1: It was good?

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: I actually I went to the Bahamas want to uh, actually,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever do you ever go

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Speaker 1: to Atlantis? I know that there's a lot of bat

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Speaker 1: I've been there.

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Speaker 2: A couple of times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's a good family spot. But

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Speaker 1: then it was also it was funny just like every

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Speaker 1: every corner you turn, there was like a six to

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Speaker 1: eight point like point forward, you know, from a college team,

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Speaker 1: and myself was just like looking up to them, and

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Speaker 1: I was just like, yep, Dada works with a lot

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Speaker 1: of these players. So we got a chance to watch

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Speaker 2: So and that's dope.

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Speaker 3: One time I was in Atlantas, I've been there like

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Speaker 3: three or four times. One time me and Jamal Crawford

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Speaker 3: took a like a family vacation.

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Speaker 2: Right. This was like early on in my career, my

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Speaker 3: And anytime me and Jamal are like together, we find

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Speaker 3: places to play hoop. Yeah, and you know the basketball

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Speaker 3: courts over there, yeah, yeah, Yeah. We played five on

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Speaker 3: five with just regular locals one time and just we

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Speaker 2: But it was dope because like that was like dope.

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Speaker 3: Memories for us, just to find a court somewhere so

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Speaker 3: far away from home and for it to feel as

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Speaker 2: Just playing like we normally do back at the crib.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. I was talking to all the locals there

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Speaker 1: and they were telling me like it's an underrated basketball town.

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Speaker 1: Nasa Mohammas and had VJ. Edgecombe actually just came came

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Speaker 1: that you found some Hoopers there pretty immediately.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was it was some good bump.

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Speaker 3: They They definitely didn't get a win against this, but

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Speaker 3: it was it was good competition.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, and then I came home to snowy Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: which was a crazy My brain is still kind of

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Speaker 1: like going crazy because I went from sunny Bahamas and

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Speaker 2: Ah. Yeah, that's tough. So that's a tough deal right there.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting adjusted. But I did get a chance to

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Speaker 1: watch a lot of ball over the break. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to start off the show because it feels like, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's almost kind of boring, but it's like they're the

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City Thunder, we haven't talked about them too much

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Speaker 1: on the show, but now they're twenty and one. They

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Speaker 1: just got Jalen Williams back, and I just want to

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Speaker 1: ask you, like, do you think there is any team

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Speaker 3: I think they're putting theirselves in position. For sure, they

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Speaker 3: look scary. They look like the most together team. It's

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Speaker 3: even scarier that they're twenty and one in Jalen Williams

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Speaker 3: says a lot about their organization, their coaching staff, their team,

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Speaker 3: everybody down the line is a line to capture another championship.

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Speaker 3: So it's definitely scary because we haven't seen them at

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Speaker 3: the regular season, and I think come playoffs there'd be

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Speaker 3: a couple of teams that can test how good they are.

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Speaker 3: But for right now, they're head and shoulders above each

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Speaker 1: Now, Like they've obviously had one of the craziest starts,

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Speaker 3: I think it's still early but I mean they started

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Speaker 3: off well. I don't think any team wants that record though,

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Speaker 3: Like what do you mean, Like even the Warriors, Like

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Speaker 3: they didn't win it that year when they had that record,

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Speaker 3: and I remember that whole season because I think they

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Speaker 3: But I think it's just a lot of added pressure

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Speaker 3: greatest records sleason teams in NBA history is super cool.

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Speaker 3: But I think there's a lot of pressure that comes

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Speaker 3: lot of pressure, unwanted pressure each and every week, each

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Speaker 3: like if you if you can't break the record, you

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Speaker 3: want to, but I think the pressure of doing it

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Speaker 3: is unnecessary for a team who is such in good

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Speaker 1: That's super That's super interesting because I've never actually even

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Speaker 1: heard that sort of angle on it, like, yeah, so

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Speaker 1: you kind of want to have a team that goes

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Speaker 1: through some trials and tribulations. They're kind of like war

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like that's like in the NFL going what's

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Speaker 3: sixteen and oh seventeen and oh Patriots and then the

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Speaker 3: first that's what I'm saying, the first the first round

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Speaker 2: You haven't really been through some real adversity.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, it's hard to win seventy three and nine, seventy

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Speaker 2: That's an amazing feat.

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Speaker 3: I just know when I was competing against those Warriors

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Speaker 3: you're having a successful season like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then obviously injuries, it just the dynamics can change.

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Speaker 1: York Knicks, where they've had an incredible start here. They

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Speaker 1: the new coach, Mike Brown. What do you think about them?

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Speaker 1: Do you think this is their year to finally get

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Speaker 3: I think that would be good for the NBA for sure,

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Speaker 3: for New York to have it. Obviously, anytime New York

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Speaker 3: just because I remember what the last time they went

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Speaker 3: and I was ten years old. Just seeing those you know,

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Speaker 3: to you know, Jalen Brunson, Kat Jordan Clarkson, who is

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Speaker 3: an amazing addition with with with you know, one of

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Speaker 2: Men in the league. I think they got an opportunity

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Speaker 3: Detroit Detroit Pistons is going to be a tough matchup

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Speaker 3: they can get to the finals. Obviously they went to

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Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference finals last year, but they still got

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Speaker 3: a lot of things to work on, Like their offense

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Speaker 3: good they have a new coach, so that everybody's trying

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Speaker 2: But I think they got a chance. But it's still

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Speaker 3: It's only twenty some games and we got to see

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Speaker 1: It's uh yeah, when I'm sort of noticing because obviously

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Speaker 1: Thibodeau was such a veteran coach known for his you know,

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Speaker 1: his defensive mindset. But honestly, a lot of the guys

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Speaker 1: some injuries were happening. But Mike Brown is interesting to

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Speaker 1: me because I've noticed a lot that culture change is

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Speaker 1: more more I guess fun. You know, like you were

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Speaker 1: thing that a lot of culture ball teams do. What

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Speaker 1: a defensive player of the game. They award one of

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Speaker 1: the Knixt players a pair of times and a hard hat,

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Speaker 1: which is, like you, I would never see Tims do

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Speaker 3: Look, look, Tims ain't a part of the culture at all.

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Speaker 3: He has his own way and he's sticking to that way.

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Speaker 3: Mike Brown's trying to be a part of the culture.

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Speaker 3: You gotta you you you're in New York. You gotta

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Speaker 3: be a part of the Tims culture. The hard hat

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Speaker 3: bringing your your lunch, bringing your lunch box to work

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Speaker 3: every day, like all of that really matters. So to

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Speaker 3: see Mike Brown be able to, you know, try to

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Speaker 3: change the culture in a fun aspect. Try to get

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Speaker 3: those guys to smile and have fun as you need

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Speaker 3: in today's game, it says a lot about who Mike

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Speaker 3: So it seemed like a little little things are changing

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Speaker 2: Averaging twenty five.

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Speaker 3: So I didn't see this coming. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to see where Luca takes this team for

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Speaker 1: That's a great take because that bench and like you said,

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Speaker 3: Over a little bit, and you know, watch arguably the

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: We talked about some teams that are having some success

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Speaker 2: They're just in a tough spot right now in terms

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Speaker 3: in their career. Yeah they're vets, and yeah they're helping

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00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,679
Speaker 3: those young guys, but they're trying to win. They're not

440
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 3: trying to waste any valuable years that they still have.

441
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 3: So it's a tough situation there with the Wizards, But

442
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 3: there's a few teams that have a tough those type

443
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 3: of situations that it's going to be a few years

444
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 3: till things turn around.

445
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 1: Well, so what can they pick up from, you know,

446
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,919
Speaker 1: teams that were in their position. I mean, just what

447
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 1: was it two years ago the Pistons were on a

448
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 1: losing streak that was pretty historic. I think it was

449
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 1: like twenty some in a row.

450
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they were bad.

451
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,880
Speaker 1: To look at them number one in the East right now,

452
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: even like OKC or even the Pacers who made to

453
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,360
Speaker 1: the finals last year, What are some traits from those

454
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 1: teams that they can pick up to maybe sort of

455
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 1: mimic and get them out of this run?

456
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 2: So I could, I could.

457
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 3: The Pacers, they've made big trades, like they got Allan Burton.

458
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 3: That was a big time trade that they like changed

459
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 3: the trajectory of their organization.

460
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: But under the ragion right, because it's like Halliburton wasn't

461
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 1: talked about.

462
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 2: For sure, he wasn't. But those are the things that

463
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 2: you have to do.

464
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 3: You gotta go through the draft, you gotta get trades,

465
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 3: You gotta pick up somewhat of a star in free agency.

466
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 2: They picked up Pascal Siakam.

467
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Speaker 3: That was a big piece, I think with the Wizards,

468
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 3: or we can go with Detroit. You got Kate Cunningham.

469
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 3: You didn't know he was going to be this good,

470
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 3: but he had the potential to be this good. You

471
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 3: got a whole new front office in between those years,

472
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 3: you let go of coach, got a whole new coaching

473
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 3: staff in between those years and then started to get

474
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 3: valuable vets in there that can still play at a

475
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 3: high level. But most importantly, this is the right type

476
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 3: of people first and foremost. So it's steps that you

477
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,199
Speaker 3: have to take to be able to change organizations, but

478
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 3: you also have to have patients and you have to

479
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 3: have some luck as well. So the Wizards are in

480
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 3: the process of that. I don't know how long it's

481
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 3: going to take. I think Brooklyn is another team that's

482
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 3: in the process of that. This is going to struggle

483
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 3: for a while, But those are two organizations that you

484
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 3: would love to live in a city like Washington, d C.

485
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 3: You would love to live in a city like Brooklyn.

486
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Speaker 3: So I don't see them being bad for too much

487
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 3: longer because they can get a free agent. But it's

488
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 3: it's going to be a lot of patience for sure.

489
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, to go to the other team that I

490
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: was mentioned at the top of this segment, who is

491
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: a veteran team who has shown some great success in

492
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: the last few years, is the Los Angeles Clippers, right

493
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: who are just having sort of an atrocious season right here,

494
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 1: and everyone's wondering why there's been some weird stuff being

495
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 1: said by the vets on there. As soon as that

496
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: starts happening, you know that there's some things that can't

497
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: really be fixed. You know, they got Tyler, They got

498
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: guys over there who've done it and are sitting near

499
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: the bottom of the West. So what are you seeing

500
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 1: that's going on over there? And what do they need

501
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: to fix?

502
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 2: I don't know if they could fix what thing go

503
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:45,239
Speaker 2: going on?

504
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 3: Really, you can tell just me being around the league

505
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 3: is all internal, like it's all inside the roster, inside

506
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 3: that locker room, inside that organization.

507
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 2: Whatever is going on over there, you can.

508
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 3: See it with these those game interviews from their superstar players,

509
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 3: from their coach. They're saying things that a team that's

510
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 3: really together just doesn't say. And a championship contending team

511
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 3: at that the roster is just like going into the season,

512
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,479
Speaker 3: I thought there would be a team that can compete

513
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 3: for a championship, but the roster is saying otherwise, And

514
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 3: I think something has to happen soon. Last summer they

515
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 3: gave up a guy that was really good for them

516
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 3: at Norman Powell.

517
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Speaker 2: They didn't really get nothing back in return.

518
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 3: So I just think they're in a tough spot right now,

519
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 3: from top to bottom. They got stuff to figure out,

520
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 3: and obviously they got outside influence as well with the

521
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 3: stuff they got going on with other things.

522
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: So I see that thing not changing or not turning around.

523
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 3: Obviously they can because they're a veteran group that's been

524
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 3: through the trenches at points in their career.

525
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 2: But that's a tough pill to swallow.

526
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: Man, they got blasted by the Miami Heat.

527
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 2: That was like, that was like, I mean so disrespectful.

528
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: So even the Dallas Maverick game, like Cooper flag at

529
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 3: thirty five, it seems like they're just not together on

530
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 3: both ends of the floor.

531
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Speaker 2: And it's a tough situation to be in.

532
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 3: So that's something to look forward to to see if

533
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 3: the Clippers can turn this around or they're just going

534
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 3: to dig a deeper hole throughout the season.

535
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: Well, and even in this situation or like where they're

536
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: currently standing, how they can continue to just leave CP

537
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: on the bench.

538
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 3: It's like, what are we doing, Like, let's not disrespect

539
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 3: the Hall of Famer. Yes he's not Chris Paul from

540
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 3: when he played for the Clippers years ago, but it's

541
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 3: a guy that was really successful on the Spurs last

542
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 3: year played all eighty two games. What did you bring

543
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 3: them in for to be a VET a VET presence

544
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Speaker 3: on a veteran team, Like, what are we doing?

545
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: So?

546
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: I think they got a lot of decisions to make.

547
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 2: They got to figure some things out.

548
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,120
Speaker 3: But I know one thing a guy like him can

549
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: can can get that can turn that group around. And

550
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 3: just in terms of his leadership, what he brings to

551
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 3: the table. And I'm not necessarily saying play him thirty

552
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: minutes playing, but put him in there, like he can't

553
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 3: he can't make things worse than they are right now.

554
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: Exactly. I feel like they even kind of did that

555
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: to John Wall when he was there, like he was

556
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: getting limited minutes. I know he was bad on some

557
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: injuries as well, but I don't know, It's like it's interesting.

558
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, not to cut you off to there,

559
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 3: but they've done that to Westbrook, They've done that to

560
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 3: a few veterans that they brought in. They've done that

561
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 3: to DeMarcus Cousins a few years ago. Like you're bringing

562
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 3: these guys in and not giving them the opportunity to

563
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,719
Speaker 3: show that they can impact winning. I just I just

564
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 3: really don't understand it. But like I said, I think

565
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: there's a lot of internal things that are happening in

566
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: that locker room that obviously we don't know about. But

567
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 3: I mean, if they don't fix it, it's going to

568
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: be a disappointing season.

569
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Speaker 1: Well, okay, can I I want to further define it,

570
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: because yeah, you just reminded me of Westbrook and Cousin

571
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: and you know and John, Like, what is it when

572
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: these guys who you know, were once superstars in the

573
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: league they come to the Clippers and you know, there's

574
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: probably some other teams have done it too, and the

575
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: team doesn't see them put up those crazy superstar numbers

576
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: from like their prime right away, they immediately go, oh,

577
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: they don't got it, Go go ride the bench, you know.

578
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: And it's just like, well like not allowing these guys

579
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: to play through, figure it out and ultimately that that

580
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: kind of that works out in their favor. If these

581
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: guys can find can you have that rhythm, find that rhythm,

582
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: find their fit, whether it's it's a hybrid of veteran

583
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: and playmaker, you know what I mean. So like, it

584
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: seems like this is a trend in the NBA where

585
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: these older, older guys who are not quite in their prime,

586
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: but still incredibly impactful get written off pretty easily.

587
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing is you sign these guys

588
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 3: and the expectation is for them to be themselves, but

589
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 3: the opportunity that you give them is not to showcase

590
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 3: them to be themselves. That makes sense. I give you,

591
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: for instance, an example of myself. I average twenty nine

592
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: points a game for the Celtics. I get traded to Cleveland.

593
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 3: Obviously I'm hurt, I'm not fully healthy, but the world

594
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: is expecting me to go average thirty because that's the

595
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 3: last thing they seen, not putting in consideration one thing,

596
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 3: most importantly, I'm hurt. Second thing, I'm on a minutes

597
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 3: restriction plan twenty minutes a game. So there's no way

598
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 3: possible for me to be the same exact player that

599
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: the world or the people around the organization they expect

600
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: me to be when I don't have that same opportunity

601
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: to be a star or a superstar like you named

602
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: in the Westbrooks, the John Wallas, the DeMarcus Cousins, Paul George,

603
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: Paul George at one point, the Chris Pauls, and I

604
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 3: don't even think those guys are asking to be superstars anymore.

605
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 3: They're not asking they're just asking for in a realistic

606
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 3: opportunity to showcase they can impact winning. And when you

607
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: don't get a star those opportunities, you put them in

608
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: position to look really bad because the world is expecting

609
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: them to be.

610
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: Who they've always been.

611
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: And the people who are going to be who they

612
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: always been are the guys with the same opportunity they

613
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: always had. Example, Steph Curry, James Harden, Kevin Durant and

614
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 3: these are the name superstars obviously, but imagine them being

615
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: put in a box and not having that same opportunity.

616
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: No way they're going to do the same things that

617
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 3: they're used to doing are capable of doing.

618
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: So it's a lot of things.

619
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Speaker 3: That are part of these decisions being made, these situations,

620
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: These really good vets are being put in.

621
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: That the outside doesn't understand or see.

622
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: So it's complicated, But as vets, you stay professional, you

623
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 3: continue to come to work each and every day and

624
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: you just do what's asked and then when you've given

625
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: an opportunity, try to impact winning the best you can.

626
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: I appreciate that insight, because yeah, it's it's the league

627
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: moves fast, so.

628
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: It is what have you done for me lately? And

629
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: is it's it moves so fast. You can even give

630
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: an example of a guy like Paul George, a guy

631
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: like mb to where they're saying they're moving on to

632
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: to have MAXI be the franchise that fast and not

633
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: saying MAXI doesn't deserve it. But that's another example of

634
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: what have you done for me lately? And that's the

635
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: business of the game.

636
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: It's wild. Okay. One last thing I wanted to cover

637
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: in this segment. It's sort of inside basketball, but it

638
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: was I knew I wanted to ask these types of

639
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: questions when I want to get to sit with an

640
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: NBA player like yourself. So Mike Conley the other night,

641
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: he hits a three against the Spurs. Now you proceeded

642
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: to do ten unique handshakes with each of his teammates.

643
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: So I'm just asking you what is the process like,

644
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: when do these handshakes get created? How often are they rehearsed?

645
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: Tell everyone the fans who are in the locker rooms,

646
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: how does that come to be? Because it seems like

647
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: a big trend in the league for the last couple decades.

648
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: Oh, it's crazy.

649
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: It's a whole thing it usually happens like during training camp,

650
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: everybody's trying to figure out they little handshakes. Like I

651
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: didn't really start to see it until I got traded

652
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: to Cleveland. And obviously, you know, Lebron's been big on

653
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: doing that since the first time he's been in Cleveland,

654
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 3: whether they're doing pregame antiques, they're doing all types of handshakes.

655
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: So he was really the leader.

656
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: Of that in Cleveland, Like everybody got to think of

657
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Speaker 3: something dope to do that relates to you know, you

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Speaker 3: guys as friendship really, so that was really a big thing.

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Speaker 3: And then every other team after that I've been on,

660
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Speaker 3: it's like you better be locked in on these handshakes

661
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Speaker 3: because when the camera's on, there's no time to mess up.

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Speaker 3: So it's really a big thing where guys is in

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Speaker 3: the locker room.

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Speaker 2: You'll look over.

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Speaker 3: There in the corner, they're working on a handshake over there.

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Speaker 3: They're like, man, what do you think doing on this handshake?

667
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Speaker 3: So it's serious and if you really watch, nobody's really

668
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Speaker 3: messing up.

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Speaker 2: No, like no, everybody is just everybody's just tapped in.

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Speaker 3: And the crazy thing about it is Lebron is doing

671
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Speaker 3: handshakes with teammates from ten years ago that he hasn't played.

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Speaker 2: With in years, and he remembers everything.

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Speaker 3: So like, shout out to bron Shout out to everybody

674
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Speaker 3: who's locked in on the handshakes, because you be locked

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Speaker 3: in on the game and right when you go to

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Speaker 3: the bench, you hitting everybody with all these down the line.

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised coaches don't have handshakes. The next thing we

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Speaker 3: got to do is have coaching staff. Gotta have dope,

679
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: dope handshakes. Yeah, with the coaching staff, that would be funny.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: I talked to Richard Jefferson too about I mean that

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen cas team, and he was saying they were

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Speaker 1: just like they had no business being the Warriors, but

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Speaker 1: they were just brothers. It was all on brotherhood and

685
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Speaker 1: like the handshake thing. And you've talked about that too

686
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Speaker 1: with your Celtics teams. Like the closer you guys are

687
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Speaker 1: and that the handshake thing. It seems it could be

688
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Speaker 1: silly child's play, but it means something.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it means a lot. It means like that's

690
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Speaker 3: that says a lot about your friendship. If you got

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Speaker 3: a quick one, it's like, oh, they're not that.

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Speaker 1: I would be watching the games like that. That's quick,

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Speaker 1: quick one.

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Speaker 3: A handshake, A good yeah, they got the pat pats

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Speaker 3: all that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they go to dinner together for the show.

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Speaker 1: So if you were to see Lebron at a game,

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Speaker 1: would you be able to be able to do your handshake?

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Speaker 3: Now, I just go off with whatever he's doing. He's

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Speaker 3: definitely remembering it. He's definitely I remember we used to

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Speaker 3: end it with this, so I know, I know, I

702
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Speaker 3: know we're ending it with that for sure.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember all the other stuff in the middle.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. Okay, on that note,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go to break, we're gonna come back on

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Speaker 1: point game, and we got a special announcement. And also

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Speaker 1: we're gonna continue our segment of no days off. We'll

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Speaker 1: He's on the road at Oracle going against the Warriors.

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Speaker 1: But crazy stat, he's got ninety three straight games with

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Speaker 1: at least twenty points, so I feel like that's an

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Speaker 1: easy bet. It should be another big night from the MVP.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Tyreese MAXI.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to point game now. We debuted last episode

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Speaker 1: a new segment that was created by Isaiah here called

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Speaker 1: No Days Off, and so I wanted to continue because

746
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: it was a hit last week. I want to continue

747
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: No Days Off here with it. So why don't you

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Speaker 1: remind everyone listening and watching at home what is No

749
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: Days Off? And why did you create it?

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Speaker 3: No Days Off, man, is just the mentality of the

751
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 3: slow grind. So I want to give a big shout

752
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 3: out to you know, guys that are hundred or radar

753
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: in the league, Guys that are on that slow grind

754
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 3: mentality throughout the season. They don't get the recognition that

755
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: you know, the mainstream media gives everybody else, especially the stars.

756
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: So I just want to give a shout out to

757
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 3: the underdogs, the guys that fly under the radar, but

758
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 3: to the to their peers, are really good basketball players

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00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: and got respect from their peers, which is most important.

760
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 3: So shout out to you know, the segment no Days Off,

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00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: Shout out to everybody that's on their slow grind throughout

762
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Speaker 3: this season. And we'll be looking for, you know, guys

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Speaker 3: that represent the slow grind mentality.

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Speaker 1: Nope, okay, So who do we got this week on

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Speaker 1: No Days Off?

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00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 3: So this week we got one of my Pacific Northwest guys,

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00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 3: Boston Celtic Peyton Pritchard, who dropped a forty piece on

768
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Speaker 3: the Cleveland Clavaliers.

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Speaker 2: Someone who is.

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Speaker 3: A slow grind member, the definition of the slow grind,

771
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 3: someone who's just taking advantag of each and every opportunity

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Speaker 3: he's given. An NBA champion, a six Man of the

773
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Speaker 3: Year Award winner. I got to give a big shout

774
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 3: out to Peyton Pritchard because coming into this season, obviously

775
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 3: he got the starting nod on the Boston Celtics. His

776
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,959
Speaker 3: opportunity is bigger than it's all than it's been since

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00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 3: he's been in the league, and I don't think he's

778
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 3: had the season that he expects to have to start out,

779
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: but he's getting more and more comfortable, especially after that

780
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 3: forty piece. He's just he's doing what he's supposed to

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00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 3: be doing. So I got to give a big shout

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00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 3: out to him. He's are no days off. Winner for

783
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: the week. Keep it going, stay on your slow grind

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Speaker 3: and keep killing them boys.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: Proud of you, bro, Love.

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Speaker 1: It man, Peyton Pritchard. What are there any moments that

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Speaker 1: you can share with us or stories from maybe even

789
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Speaker 1: playing in some of those I've talked about the Seattle

790
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Speaker 1: programs or playing those runs during the summer up in

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Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Peyton for coming through my basketball tournament

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Speaker 3: Zeke and Weekend twenty twenty four.

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00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 2: He came to show love. He lost to us.

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Speaker 3: In the championship, but he showed he showed the city love,

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Speaker 3: he showed the fans love. He put on the show

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Speaker 3: for sure, and I'm always going to have real love

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00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: for Peyton Pritchell for coming to my city and putting

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Speaker 3: on the show for the fans.

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Speaker 2: So shout out to him.

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Speaker 3: Keep grinding, bro, keep showing the undersized guards are the

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00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: way to go and keep putting your name out there.

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Speaker 2: Bro. All love.

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00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: It's all opportunity. We talked about all the time.

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00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: He's starting out all about opportunity. Bro.

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00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: That's right, Okay, I want to close out this the show.

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Speaker 1: It was brought to my attention this incredible film we

808
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: talked about Slow Grind Media, which this show is brought

809
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: to you by as well. This incredible film and documentary

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00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: that you and your team created called Go Forward. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to explain. I think it's best putting your words,

812
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: but I got an opportunity to watch it last night.

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00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: It's incredible powerful. It's about a story that, honestly man like.

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons why I wanted to do the

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Speaker 1: show with you is like, not only were you know

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00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: you're an incredible basketball player, but an incredible human being

817
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: who has been open. Your story has been shared and

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Speaker 1: it's been an inspiration and motivation and I had no

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Speaker 1: idea that this documentary was being made, and I just

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Speaker 1: think it speaks volumes about who you are and your

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Speaker 1: initiatives even outside of basketball. So the documentary is called

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Speaker 1: Go Forward, but I wanted to tee it up to you.

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Speaker 1: It's premiering here at the Sun Valley Film Festival. So

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you, like, what is this film

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Speaker 1: about and sort of why you wanted to make it?

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Speaker 1: And I have some other questions about the making of

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Speaker 1: this film.

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Speaker 3: So we slow Grind Media we produced the documentary called

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Speaker 3: Go Forward. And the reason why I wanted to do

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Speaker 3: this was because when the situation happened with my little

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Speaker 3: such little sister getting in a car accident back in

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Speaker 3: twenty seventeen and passing away right before the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I seen how inspiring.

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Speaker 3: Me trying to fight through a personal tragedy was for

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Speaker 3: everybody in the entire world, whether somebody I seen on

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Speaker 3: the street, somebody I seen back home in Tacoma, somebody

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Speaker 3: I seen in an arena, who really would stop me

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Speaker 3: and be like, the time I was going through a

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Speaker 3: tough time in my life, I was really looking to

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Speaker 3: you for motivation and inspiration. And when I heard all

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Speaker 3: those messages being thrown at me, all those people would

842
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: write me letters, people would just say how inspiring I was.

843
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 3: And I was only doing what I felt was right.

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Speaker 3: I was only doing what I felt was normal. But

845
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Speaker 3: to be able to inspire the world on something that

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Speaker 3: everybody goes through, whether somebody passes away in your family,

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Speaker 3: whether you got to go through grief. To be able

848
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Speaker 3: to do that on the national stage was very difficult,

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Speaker 3: But to be able to show it to the world,

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Speaker 3: and if I'm able to help one person that's going

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Speaker 3: through the same similar situations that I've been able that

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Speaker 3: I've had to go through when it comes to grief

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Speaker 3: and losing family members, losing siblings.

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Speaker 2: That's something I want to do.

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Speaker 3: So we've been filming since twenty eleven, Like I got

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Speaker 3: everything since twenty eleven, so soon we're going to come

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Speaker 3: out with a movie of my life. And we've been

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Speaker 3: able to my guy TJ. Riggins, been able to film

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Speaker 3: and capture some of the biggest moments, some of the

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Speaker 3: highs and the lows, not only in basketball, but in

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Speaker 3: my everyday life.

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00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: And this was a very important piece.

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Speaker 3: So when it came up to do a short documentary

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Speaker 3: with a couple other producers, it was difficult, but it

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Speaker 3: was a no brainer because it was to help others.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't about myself. And when people sit and watch this,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna change a lot on how you think about things,

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Speaker 3: like even when I sit and watch it, a couple

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Speaker 3: of times I have and put myself outside of who

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Speaker 3: I am and it being me that's going through this.

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Speaker 3: It made me realize, like it's bigger than yourself. So like,

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Speaker 3: if you're going through personal stuff, it's bigger to to

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Speaker 3: to not just keep it in like you can. You

874
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 3: can help somebody else, and that's what is the most

875
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 3: inspiring thing.

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Speaker 2: So we got.

877
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Speaker 3: This film is inducted in the Some Valley Film Festival,

878
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 3: which is a major film festival.

879
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: It's only the beginning.

880
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 3: It will be showing December sixth in Idaho at the

881
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 3: Sun Valley Film Festival. I will be there and my

882
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: family will be there. It's definitely a dope opportunity to

883
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 3: be able to be in the mix in that space

884
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 3: because that's something that I'm very interested in being in.

885
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: And it's just going to be a powerful short dot

886
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 3: It's going to change a lot of eyes when it

887
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 3: comes to being able to push through adversity and tragedy

888
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 3: on a national stage where everybody's watching my every move

889
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 3: and shout out to my pops man for being able

890
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 3: to sit down and speak his truth on how he's

891
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: going through it, how he deals with grief, and without him,

892
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: this would never even have been made. And this was

893
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 3: a tough, a tough goal for him to even sit

894
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: down and speak about it. So shout out to my dad,

895
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 3: Shout out to everybody involved, shout out to t J.

896
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 3: Reagan for like, it's it's it's it's tough moments, man,

897
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: but it's gonna at the end of the day, it's

898
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: going to help somebody else and that's what's most important.

899
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 3: So the film is called Go Forward. It will be

900
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: shown this weekend at the at the Film Festival, and

901
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: the world would be able to see it soon for

902
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: sure because it's going to be that impactful.

903
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, And and you know a lot of my

904
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: work in basketball too is about telling the stories of

905
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: the person you know behind. Because everyone knows about that

906
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: legendary fifty three point game on your sister's birthday. Highlight

907
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: reels are made, edits are made and whatever. But the

908
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: fact that you had cameras rolling you were you know,

909
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: you were open and not to just be like hey

910
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: look at me, like you said, but like this stuff

911
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: helps you know, Like I've gone through some grief, you know,

912
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: anyone ever has. It's tough, but people we as humans

913
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: have to go through and to see someone who went

914
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 1: through it like yourself and then you know, was able

915
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: to channel that through basketball, you know, passion that you

916
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: had and get through it, and then your family and

917
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: how how you guys have worked through it and continue

918
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: to work through and make you know, these powerful films

919
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: and like that. It's really incredible to see. So I

920
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: appreciate it. And so some other questions I had about

921
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: it were, how was it you know, getting other members

922
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: of the Celtics, you know, yeah, Brad Steam's Auhr for

923
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: all these people, How important was it to get them

924
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: to be involved and help give, you know, some more

925
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: texture to that story.

926
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 3: It was easy actually because that whole organization went through

927
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 3: a real life tragedy with me, so they understand the

928
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 3: magnitude of what was going through them locker room halls,

929
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: what was how the energy was for that whole playoff

930
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: run when it was it was a tough situation for

931
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 3: everybody involved. So shout out to everybody who is a

932
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 3: part of the film. Shout out to our horror for

933
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: Brad Stevens, a few other Boston Celtics staff members that

934
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 3: took their time out of their day to be able to,

935
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: you know, speak about such a personal moment for myself

936
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 3: and my family. So it was easy though, Like when

937
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 3: I asked those guys to be a part of it,

938
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 3: it was a no brainer for them. So the love

939
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: and respect they have not only for myself but for

940
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: my family is amazing. And you know that feeling is mutual.

941
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: That's great. Man. Well, I highly recommend it. Anyone's a

942
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: fan of it, of basketball, who's ever been through having

943
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: to deal with grief, I highly recommend you check out

944
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: this docu short Go Forward, produced by Silverrind Media. It's

945
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: like it said, it's premiering this Saturday in Idaho, December sixth,

946
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: four point thirty at the Opera House. The link is

947
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: Sun Valleyfilmfestival dot org. You can check out all the

948
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: information how to get tickets there check it out. I

949
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: think yeah, like I said, I think it's the start

950
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: of you telling your whole story, because it's like, you know,

951
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: you've inspire people shorter guards and all that stuff. But

952
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 1: also I think there's another layer that when people saw

953
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: you deal with this was like, oh yeah, it is

954
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: our guy, that's.

955
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: For sure, And when they see this, it's just going

956
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 3: to be real life stuff. So it's going to be

957
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 3: something anybody who's been through something like this is going

958
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 3: to relate to.

959
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: I just was having to.

960
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 3: Do it on a national stage while in the NBA playoffs,

961
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 3: And I mean, even though it was tough to do

962
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: like it's, it's helped me in ways that I can't

963
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: even imagine in terms of being able to help others

964
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 3: in such difficult times.

965
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: For sure.

966
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, all right, well appreciate that. Check it out.

967
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971
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972
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973
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976
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977
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