1 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: And welcome in. Late Kick on the area is Thursday night, 2 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: February eighteenth, the r of R Lord twenty twenty one, 3 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: huge wonderstorm moves through Nashville, which forces us for Late 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Kick into the remote and seldom seen downtown Nashville studio, or, 5 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: as we like to call it in the biz, my apartment. 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: We have the Oregon Mood Tracker on the show tonight, 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: which is appropriate because we have nice, authentic Oregon timber 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: here as the backdrop behind us. If you're listening on 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: the podcast, pay no attention to anything I'm saying right now. Nevertheless, 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: we are jam packed. I mean, I got a lot 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: to get too, because we had stuff breaking just in 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours. The NCAA dead period extension 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: that we were talking about on Sunday night, well that 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: has happened. That has since passed. I got so much 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: feedback from you guys, and I'm talking about college professors, players, parents, coaches. 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe the amount of feed we got on 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: that segment the other night. So I'm going to dive 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: a little bit deeper now that we know it's official. 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to give you some thoughts on that I'm 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: looking down because I have like three screens in front 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: of me right now. So the dead period we're going 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: to discuss, the organ mood tracker, We're going to discuss. 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: I've also got to get to something that's sort of 24 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: been on my mind about Gus Malson. I thought I'd 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: have to wait a year or two to do this segment, 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: but it turns out since he's taken the Central Florida job. 27 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: And congratulations to Gus Malson, by the way, since that's happened, 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: we get to do a segment tonight that I thought 29 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: we'd be doing it like twenty twenty two or twenty 30 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: twenty three. Got all that, plus a question. I just 31 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: want to put it out there now. We'll talk about 32 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: it again in a few minutes. What night of the 33 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,639 Speaker 1: week do you think the National title game should be played? 34 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: Right now? And for a little while, it's been on 35 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: a Monday. Read some articles and I've talked to some 36 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: of you over the past month that has led me 37 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: to present this on the show tonight. I always knew 38 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: we were going to do it. National Championship changes. A 39 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: lot of people want to change the playoff. I'm not 40 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: worried about changing the playoff tonight, but I do want 41 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: to talk about some national championship changes. All that and 42 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: the drive to thirteen k continue. So it occurred to 43 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: me the other night when I presented a germ of 44 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: an idea to you, once we get the Late Kick 45 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: Josh Twitter account to thirteen thousand at Late Kick Josh 46 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: trying to get thirteen thousand there. And the reason that 47 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: we're trying to get to thirteen thousand is because it's 48 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: a nice even number when we get there, and we're 49 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: on pace to do it like later this week. So 50 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: when we get there, the moment we get there, the 51 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: plan will be put in motion. But then I didn't 52 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: tell you what the plan was the other night. Those 53 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: of you who listened to the podcast on Tuesday morning, 54 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: you already know the plan. Here's what I'm doing. We 55 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: are going to debut an entirely new concept. This will 56 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: not be a weekly show. We'll set benchmarks. Every time 57 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: we reach the benchmark, we'll do one of these shows. 58 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: But here's what's happening. I want to be as interactive 59 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: as possible. I want to try out a new product, 60 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: you know, like I'm using zoom right now. To use 61 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: that interface to come to you because we can't be 62 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: in the Nashville studio in the Brentwood studio. Well, I 63 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: want to use this, but bring about five or ten 64 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: of you in here with me and record basically a 65 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: mailbag version of a podcast, but do it in video 66 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: form and have really loose interaction. We'll go wherever you 67 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: want to go, We'll talk about whatever you want to 68 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: talk about, within reason, of course, and then we'll upload 69 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: it on the YouTube channel. And if it goes thirty minutes, 70 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: that's great, If it goes two and a half hours, 71 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: that's great. But the best content we do, in my opinion, 72 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: are those mail bag podcast episodes every week that are 73 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: podcast only, The Late Kick podcast available wherever you get 74 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: your pods, and it's really fun, it's really interactive, but 75 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: it all it often takes us down a road I 76 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: never would have thought of. So you guys are a 77 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: lot better at doing that to me, and I figure, hey, 78 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: why not add a new product for every benchmark we hit. 79 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: We had the thousand and five star reviews, we flew 80 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: past that, So let's grow that Twitter account and as 81 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: we do it, we're going to have rewards along the way. 82 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: The merch option, the merchandising option still in the oven. 83 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: It looks like it's got about a thirteen fourteen minutes 84 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: left cook, so we're going to pull that out. I'm 85 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: going to let you know as soon as I can, 86 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: but in the meanwhile, let's dive in tonight. Gus Malson 87 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: secret genie possibly now A lot of you have labeled 88 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: him otherwise, but I want you to remember what you've 89 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: thought and said about Gus Malson in maybe the last 90 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: couple of years, maybe the last decade, because Gus Malson, 91 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: I think, is a role model. Gus Malson as of 92 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: today probably should have courses taught about him, not necessarily 93 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: by him, but about him at every major university in America. 94 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: I want you to think about something, because a lot 95 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: of you have had coaching idols out there and they 96 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: have let you down, and they have led you astray, 97 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: and they've ended up fired, but then they've ended up 98 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: fading into the abyss. Not Gustav Malson. What a turn 99 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: of events, by the way, So he takes the Central 100 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: Florida job. He's the new head coach of Central Florida. Again, congratulations. 101 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: But the best part here is Malzon fooled large portions 102 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: of the college football world in the process. And I 103 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: want to rewind sort of and take you back down 104 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: some roads in storytelling mode that I've told you before, 105 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: and I want to use that as sort of the backdrop. 106 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I want you to think, I'll get to 107 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: the story in a second, but I want you to 108 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: think at every turn about what this guy's career has 109 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: consisted of and what I would say the general narrative 110 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: at any given time around him was. So he got 111 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: hired as the head coach at Auburn in twenty thirteen, 112 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: and he comes in. He talks like this a lot. 113 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: You know, he puts his hand over his mouth. He's 114 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: really secretive. He's got all kind of these demonstrative actions 115 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: that he does and movements on the sideline, and you know, 116 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people just thought he was strange, thought 117 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: he was odd and eccentric, and they thought he was 118 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: a Mickey Mouse offense kind of guy. Dude wins the SEC, 119 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: goes to the national championship in his first year, gets 120 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: thirteen seconds from winning it, and then you know, time 121 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: goes on at twenty thirteen and beyond, the big talking 122 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: point around him was, well, he's he's having to compete 123 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: with Nick Saban, and the rest of the country is 124 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: trying to hire coaches that can compete with Saban. Some 125 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: of them have worked under Saban, others are just going 126 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: to be the kryptonite to Nick Saban, and they're getting 127 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: hired and they're getting fired, and the entire seems like 128 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: the entire sec and in ways, the entire landscape of 129 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: the sport has overturned with people trying to figure out 130 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: how to beat Malzan or Nick Saban. Malzan does it 131 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: three times, just like that boom boom boom, not in 132 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: a row. But he had more wins over Savan than 133 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: any other coach has had Oversavan. And how did he 134 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: do it? No one really knows. Fourtuitous bounces here and there, 135 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: but you got to be in position to benefit from 136 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: the fourtuitous bounces. But folks, those aren't even the best parts. 137 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: If I'm writing the story, the chapter I'm about to 138 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: take you back down, that's the best chapter. Do you 139 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: remember twenty seventeen, Yeah, wasn't that long ago. So twenty seventeen, 140 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: Auburn comes in, They're highly ranked. They were highly ranked 141 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: every year and then as I've told you several times 142 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: before they go down to LSU. I was on the 143 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: road with him for that game. I was on the 144 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: field for that game. I was covering both teams really 145 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: and it was crazy because they got a big lead, 146 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: looked like it was going to be a blowout. As 147 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: I told you, I made my way to the press 148 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: box early and I started to eat the halftime meal early, 149 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, L Shoe scores. They 150 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: go in the locker room, they come back out, they score, 151 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 1: they score, They end up winning the game. So Auburn 152 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: a big lead, and I am standing in the postgame 153 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: press room for Auburn. Malzon has not yet entered the room. 154 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: Christy Malson, his wife has She is well within earshot, 155 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: and various members of the Auburn beat are very vocal 156 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: in their insistence that Gus Malson's job is done. It's 157 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: not a matter of when anymore, it's just a matter 158 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: of if she can hear it. She didn't say a word. 159 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: I have credited her before, I'll credit her again on 160 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: this very program right now. Christy Malson did not say 161 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: a word. And so as the story goes, you get 162 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: a little bit later in the year, the team didn't quit. 163 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: In fact that I think they played Arkansas like the 164 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: next week and they got right back up off the mat, 165 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: and so they start to build some confidence. They start 166 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: to build a little momentum, and then all of a sudden, 167 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: it's later in the year. Here comes number one Georgia 168 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: in town. I was there for that game, smoked him. 169 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: A couple of weeks later, Alabama comes intown. I'm there 170 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: for that game. I get to cover all these games. 171 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: That's the beauty of working in Columbus Georgia. You get 172 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: to reasonably tell your news director, I got to be there, 173 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: get me credentials. I got to be there. Well, they 174 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: smoked Alabama too, And here is where it really gets interesting. 175 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, this guy was fired and out the 176 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: door a month ago. Not only has he saved his job, 177 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: but he has maximized his leverage, and he knows it, 178 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: and his representation knows it, and they haven't forgot the 179 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: tenor from a month earlier when no one had their back, 180 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: and by day I made Malson and his representation, no 181 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: one had their back, and everyone was trying to push 182 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: him out the door. And he comes back from dead. 183 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: He's like the Undertaker circa nineteen ninety sixty. He rises 184 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: from the dead, beats Georgia number one, beats Alabama number one, 185 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: wins the SEC West, and it's time to go to 186 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: Atlanta for the SEC Championship game right now? Yep. That week, 187 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: Malson and his representation behind the scenes back Dauburn into 188 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: a corner. They say, we want a new deal, we 189 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: wanted agreed upon before Saturday or he's going what was 190 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: the backdrop? You remember this? Well, there was allegedly never 191 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 1: will know if it was reality or not, but it 192 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: was allegedly a big time offer on the table from 193 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: Arkansas to bring Gus Malzon home. That was the leverage 194 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: play number one. Leverage play number two was you know 195 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: the recent results on the field, and we're going to 196 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: the SEC title game reward this man. Leverage play number 197 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: three that is often forgotten was there was a mess 198 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: unfolding at Tennessee. There was a coaching search that had 199 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: gone totally haywire, and so you were able to look 200 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: Auburn in the eye and you were able to say, 201 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: the guy just saved your season, resurrected the entire program 202 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: in many ways in the process. There is a big 203 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: time offer elsewhere. He'd loved to go home. You know, 204 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: whether you call my bluff or not, he'd love to 205 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: go home. And number three, do you really want to 206 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: go through a coaching search and risk looking like what 207 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: Tennessee looks like right now? Auburn folded like an accordion. 208 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: They had no other option. They give him seven years, 209 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: forty nine million dollars. That was the headline. But there 210 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: was a fine print section in that contract that not 211 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: many people talked about. There was this word it started 212 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: with an M. No one was really talking about it. 213 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 1: The word that started with an M that everyone was 214 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: focused on with Mauson, there's one M. Word was money 215 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: and he got a lot of it. But there was 216 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: another word, kids, and it was mitigation. And to be direct, 217 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: there was no mitigation clause in Gus Malzon's Auburn contract. 218 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: What does that mean? It means if he's out the 219 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: door and he's fired, they owe him every bit of 220 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: his buyout, even if he takes another job. Now, with 221 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: that in mind, Gus Malson's the new head coach at UCF, 222 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: and Gus Malsons signs, what do we have here? We 223 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: have a five year, two point three million dollars per 224 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: year deal. That's nice, that's good money. You and I 225 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: could probably survive on that, right. But he also gets 226 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: twenty one point five million guaranteed from Auburn in the process. 227 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: And so for all of you out there, I'm standing 228 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: over here, you know, I'm definitely not associating with that crowd. 229 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: But for all of you who criticized Malzon in the past, 230 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: made fun of him, calling this, calling that, I just 231 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: want to ask, where are you going tomorrow? What do 232 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: you got to be up at seven am to go do? 233 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: Gus Malzon? Man, he could, man, he could buy us 234 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: all ten times over. And he gets to wake up 235 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: in sunny Florida. I am in the middle of an 236 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: ice storm right now. He's going to be in sunny Florida, 237 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: probably sunburned already. He gets to play and coach rather 238 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: and be in the mix of a program now that, 239 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: relative to his competition, is at or above every important 240 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: level recruiting, budget, scheduling, geographically. He's got all the edges 241 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: now that he never had at Auburn. And he's got 242 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: a massive bank account to think for all the moves 243 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: that he made. And this is one of the reasons 244 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: why Gus Malzon, I really think is a secret legend 245 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: now in college football, especially when you're talking about the 246 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: economics of college football, it begins and ends with Gus Malson. 247 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: Now from an athletic director and department standpoint, hopefully we're 248 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: seeing the final chapters on these mitigation disasters, because I mean, 249 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: Will Muschamp walks away from Carolina, they owe him every 250 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: bit of his money, even if he takes a job 251 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: at Georgia, Malazon walks away with not walking away, they 252 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: get fired. Then they're taking these other jobs, and you're realizing, wait, 253 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: we got fleeced. Number one, we extended these coaches and 254 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: gave them probably above market value. That's debatable. But number two, 255 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: no mitigation clauses and the contracts, How did that happen? 256 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: Happens cause it is checkers versus chess. It is folks 257 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: in these athletic departments dealing with world class agents, and 258 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: it's no contest in many ways. So Gus Mauson, he's 259 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: a winner. He's a winner. In the words of Herman Boone, 260 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: He's a Hall of Famer. In my book, Let's go 261 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: to Oregon, Let's bounce around a little bit. So I've 262 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: been having a lot of fun with the mood tracker. 263 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: The Oregon mood Tracker fascinating here. I had a pretty 264 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: good read on where I wanted to go with Orgon. 265 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: I didn't really need to crowdsource this one a whole lot. 266 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: The Oregon fan based mood Tracker. I can't be too 267 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: animated right now because I'm kind of closed in here. 268 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: So the way that I chose to sum it up 269 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: is I put Oregon in arms swing mode, and if 270 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: you're watching, you know right here, I'm trying to do 271 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: a bowler's posture. You know, if you've ever gone bowling. 272 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: There was a place down in Columbus when I was 273 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: growing up. It was called Peach Bowl Lanes. I think 274 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: it's still there, but it's a different name. I by 275 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: no means I'm a professional bowler, so I don't know 276 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: the terminology. But there's this moment, and you can phrase 277 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: it however you want to. If there's a professional term, 278 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: you let me know. But there's this moment after you've 279 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: released the ball and you've got a good release. Okay, 280 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: it's on point, it's headed where you want it to head. 281 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: But you know that awkward two or three seconds between 282 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: the time that ball leaves hand and ball strikes pen 283 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: and you don't know what to do, and you know 284 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: everyone behind you is watching, and you just kind of 285 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: stand there. That is exactly where Oregon fans are right now. 286 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: They got a good release. It's not headed towards the gutter. 287 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: Bumpers aren't out, by the way, it's not headed towards 288 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: the gutter. It's headed right where they want it to. 289 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: And now you've got to find out is it going 290 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: to be one of those pen explodes all over the place, 291 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: you get a striker, Is it going to be a 292 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: nasty seven to ten split? Even though you think you 293 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: did everything right. College football, in this sport, winning leaves 294 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: a bunch of clues. We can look at programs that 295 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: are winning consistently and it's not hard to figure out 296 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: why they're winning consistently. A few things I wrote down. 297 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: They hire well very obviously. Number two, they fully invest. 298 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: And then number three is they just keep fully investing. 299 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: You can't do it once and then rest on your laurels. 300 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: You got to keep investing. You got the facilities. Obviously, 301 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: they recruit elite classes, not just one. They stack them 302 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: on top of each other. Those are a few points, 303 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: but there's another point. I want to get to that 304 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: one in just a second. But think about where an 305 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: organ fan is right now. If you're looking at your program, 306 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: which of those boxes don't you check? I would answer 307 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: none of them. Every one of those boxes is checked. 308 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: Oregon has hired well, they've obviously got the investment, they've 309 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: obviously got the facilities. They've got a really really good 310 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: national brand about themselves, which those more successful programs have done. 311 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Clemson has taken their brand from very regional, 312 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: very regional, to a national brand. They recruit coast to coast. 313 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: Now Clemson Wane get quarterbacks out of California ten years ago, 314 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: and now they are. Oregon's got a national brand. By default, 315 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: they have to recruit nationally, but they're doing it. Speaking 316 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: of recruiting, they're stacking the classes on top of each other. 317 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: There's no question about that. They're really good right now. 318 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: They're checking all the boxes. They are the swinging arm. 319 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: They have released the bowling ball. It's headed in the 320 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: right direction. Now they just have to stand there and 321 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: they're waiting. It's this kind of awkward. It's an exciting period. 322 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: But it's an awkward period of well, what's going to happen? Okay, 323 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: then there's this other box and this is the final 324 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: clue that these winning programs leave, and that is getting 325 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: quarterback right. And that's where it gets really fun from 326 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: this point moving forward for Orgon, because they haven't had it. 327 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: They haven't even had it. I would argue they didn't 328 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: even have it with Justin Herbert because what he did 329 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: in college pales of comparison to what he's doing in 330 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: the pros. A lot of his mock draft status was 331 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: based on projection and measurables rather than actual college productivity. 332 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: Will now we fast forward a few years and we've 333 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: got Mario christ Paul, got Joe moorehead in place there. 334 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: But now I think the difference is on campus. And 335 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: his name's Ty Thompson. He hasn't taking a snap at 336 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: Oregon yet. But you don't need to be shy about this. 337 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: I was talking to an organ buddy who I've never 338 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: met in person, but I text with him all the time, 339 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: and he was I made this point to him. I said, 340 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: you got the guy that's going to give you the 341 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: best shot you've had there to win a national championship 342 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: since Chip Kelly was there, and I count the helfer 343 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: g Era since chip Kelly was there. This dude's going 344 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: to give you the best chance you've ever had to 345 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: win a national title. And he said, oh, don't say that. Why, 346 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: there's no reason to be shy or bashful about this. 347 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: There's no reason to be superstitious. You think Clemson was 348 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: bashful when they got Trevor Lawrence on campus. You see 349 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: Alabama fans walking around timidly when they talk about Bryce Young, 350 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: No JT. Daniels at Georgia. Georgia hadn't even won a 351 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: title yet. They don't even know what one feels like. 352 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: They think they're equipped and ready. You don't need to 353 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: be bashful or shy about this. Todd Thompson's a stud. 354 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: As highly as we had him rated. I've talked to 355 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: people who think he's still underrated. I think some of 356 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: them are probably at Oregon, and so I'm very excited 357 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: about him. I'd be over the moon excited if I 358 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: were an Orgon fan. And so now the final box 359 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: that's not been checked, at least to the degree that 360 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: maybe it's been checked at other programs. Now you could 361 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: argue even that one's been checked. And so here we are, 362 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: We're watching that ball and whether we're going the straight 363 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: route or we're putting some curve on it, it's headed 364 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: where we want it to head. Now, what kind of 365 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: pin action are we going to get when it finally 366 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: his those pins? Are they going to explode? I think 367 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: ty Thompson gives them a chance to. I was listening 368 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: to the College Football Daily Tray Scott had on Eric 369 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: Scalpel from a Duck territory, and they were talking about 370 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: how quickly the entire quarterback scene changed at Oregon over 371 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 1: the past week or two if you miss that. So 372 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck, who was charting quarterback last year, he left 373 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: and he wasn't out of eligibility, he just left. And 374 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: I think a lot of the assumptions that are being 375 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: made around Oregon are valid. You never know until the 376 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: player himself comes out and confirms it or denies it. 377 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: But I think he read the writing on the wall. 378 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: There's no shame in that. But I'm telling you right now, 379 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of reason to be excited if you're 380 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: an Oregon fan and you look at ty Thompson. If 381 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: that is indeed the case, if that was the case 382 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: where your your incumbent guy looked at an incoming true 383 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: freshman by the way, who he's very familiar with. They're 384 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: from the same area, and he says, Deuces, I got 385 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: to get out of here. I gotta go somewhere I 386 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: can play that guy. That guy is someone that they 387 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: around Oregon are comparing to when Darren Thomas was there. 388 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: But then Marcus Mariota came in. Darren Thomas said, oh boy, 389 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: like Amy Poehler and Parks and Raggah. Oh boy. Hey. 390 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: I think that's valid, and I hope it is for 391 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: Oregon's sake. So I'm extremely excited to watch this selfishly, 392 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: I'll just tell you selfishly, in wanting what's best for 393 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: Oregon in the future, I like many other outsiders, are 394 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: pulling for him to win that job. Ty Thompson. The 395 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: reason is because I just look at him, and I 396 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,239 Speaker 1: think in terms of upside down the road twenty twenty two, 397 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: twenty three, twenty four, he's probably not there that long 398 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: if he's the right guy. But man, I hope he's 399 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: the right guy, and if he is, I hope we 400 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: see him very soon. I think that coaching staff probably 401 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: feels the same way. But here's the other good news. 402 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: It's not Ty Thompson or a bust there are. To me, 403 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: there are at least two other quality candidates on campus. There. 404 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: You could argue about that, but I'm telling you, man, 405 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: they check so many boxes that some places they have 406 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: false hope. I think it's legitimate premium optimism at Oregon. 407 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: Right now, I have to switch gears a little bit here, 408 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: and so I want you to think along with me, 409 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: when should the National Championship Game be played? What night 410 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: of the week. A lot of people have wasted a 411 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: lot of time to me recently talking about the structure 412 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: of college football's future and how many teams we should 413 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: have in the playoff and this and that and auto 414 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: bids and G five and P five. Forget all that stuff. Man. 415 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: You can debate that in July, just as soon as 416 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: you can debate it now, and they will. We will, 417 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: probably I get tired of it, but we will. But 418 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: I just wanted to throw a little bit different spin 419 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: on this. We played the National Championship game right now 420 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: on a Monday night, and I just want to know 421 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: what you think about that, because to my knowledge, I've 422 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: never heard anybody that is crazy about the way we 423 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: end the college football season having a championship game, notwithstanding 424 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm talking about when we play it, and it's always 425 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: seemed kind of weird to me. And you know, I 426 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: wasn't going to talk about it tonight, but I was 427 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: reading over on the Athletic I think it was Nicole 428 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: Auerbach who had put up It was probably a mail bag, 429 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: but someone asked about this and I saw the way 430 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: she answered it. I thought there was a lot of 431 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: validity to the way she answered it, but I wanted 432 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: to extend a little bit further off of it. So 433 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: the question I think that was presented was why doesn't 434 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: the college football Playoff feel like the kind of spectacle 435 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: that the NFL makes the super Bowl. There's a really 436 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: good question, and you can go a lot of different 437 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: ways with that. Think along with me. I mean, like, 438 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: if you're listening, are you driving around right now, are 439 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: you're watching on your phone or whatever? Like, think about that. 440 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: Have you ever asked yourself that too? Why does the 441 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: super Bowl in the NFL it gets two week build up, 442 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: It's this huge it's like a national holiday, and it's 443 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: celebrated and treated as such, and the college football Playoff 444 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: is all to say, you got a great regular season 445 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: and then you got it. Almost feels like the semi 446 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: finals since there's more build up to it, there's more 447 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: spectacle and pageantry around that. Even in the title game, 448 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: you just kind of roll around on a Monday night 449 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks into January and then that's it 450 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: and Tuesday morning you go back to work. If you 451 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: don't like that, I think I'm right there with you. 452 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: And so this is maybe the part of the structure 453 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: of the sport right now that I would be willing 454 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: to change. But so they asked Nicole Aurbach and she said, well, 455 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: part of the reason that there's a bigger spectacle around 456 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, aside from just the fact that the 457 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: NFL is its own monster, they're in their own galaxy, 458 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: is there's a fantasy and gambling aspect to this. There's 459 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: a more regionality to the sport of college football than 460 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: there is to the NFL. Also, the timing, which is 461 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: what I wanted to circle back around to. You got 462 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: a Sunday tent pole versus a Monday night event, and 463 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: there's other stuff going on there just is I mean, 464 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: the entertainment world does not revolve around a Monday night 465 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: in January quite the way it does Super Bowl on 466 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: a Sunday night. So here's my stance. You guys know 467 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: this because I've shared this with you many times. I 468 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 1: don't waste any time comparing college football to the NFL, 469 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: and I do not measure the health or success of 470 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: college football based on an NFL scale. I don't care. 471 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: They exist totally different for me. I'll watch the Saturday product. 472 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: I love the Saturday product. I will watch the Sunday product. 473 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't say I love it nearly as much, 474 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't dunk on the NFL to 475 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: prop up college football or vice versa. I don't care. 476 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: I probably compare college football to the NFL as much 477 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: as I compare college football to cricket. I just don't care. 478 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: They're two different entities for me, they're totally different products, 479 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: and I'll leave that there. But I also think that 480 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: college football, you know, like, they reward success, whereas in 481 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: the NFL everything's built to push things to the middle. 482 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: Each model is fine. If you prefer one over the other, 483 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: that's fine. It's fine if you love both of them 484 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: for their own uniqueness. That's fine. You've also got, yes, 485 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: a much more regional aspect, a more regional field to 486 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: college football. You know, it matters a lot more, maybe 487 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: in the South than it does the Pacific Northwest. You 488 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: can't tell that to a diehard Huskies fan or Duck's 489 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: fan or Cougars fan, but by and large, the average 490 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: citizen of Montgomery, Alabama probably cares a little bit more 491 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: about college football than the average citizen of Olympia, Washington. 492 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: I think we can accept that, even you guys up 493 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: in Washington and can probably accept it. Yeah, that's true. 494 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: Having said that, there's nothing wrong with either way. There's 495 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: just they can both exist. You don't have to merge 496 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: one with the other, or you don't try and adjust 497 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: one to make it look like the other. However, here's 498 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: what's always been most important to me, and here's why 499 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: I think the NFL's Super Bowl carries a lot more 500 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: spectacle aspect of it than the college football playoff National 501 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: Championship does. The nucleus of the NFL is not its 502 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: regular season. It's the postseason, and it is the super Bowl. 503 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: The super Bowl is the NFL's tent pole event. It 504 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: is the entire marketing machine is built around that moment, 505 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: and that's cool. I watched the Super Bowl just like 506 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: you guys did a couple weeks ago. Having said that 507 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: the nucleus of college football is its regular season, and 508 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: only fairly recently did we put an actual, what I 509 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: term legitimate national championship game onto the end of college football. 510 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: You know, if you're twenty five years old, you've lived 511 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: your whole life with a national title game. I get that, 512 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: But if you're fifty five years old, you haven't. If 513 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: you're sixty five to seventy five, I mean, you remember 514 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: where polls were determining three different national champions So it's 515 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: a fairly new concept to even have a national title game. 516 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: But always should remain the fact that the nucleus is 517 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: the regular season, and then we get a postseason added 518 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: on to it, and that's wonderful, But I mean, there's 519 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: a lot of imbalance in college football. Like in the NFL, 520 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: the NFL was created so professional football could be played. 521 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: Colleges were created for educational purposes, and then, to varying 522 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: degrees afterwards, football programs were just tacked on to them, 523 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: some of them a one hundred fift years old, some 524 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: humber twenty years old. It's there's all kinds of idio 525 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: secrecy and nuance in college football that doesn't exist in 526 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. So it makes sense why the postseason could 527 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: be a little tougher to arrange, shall we say, but 528 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: I will say this, that timing issue that's totally valid. 529 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: Like I don't get why we go the direction we 530 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: go here, Well I do. I do because of TV inventory, 531 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: and I understand that when college football is playing its 532 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: national championship game, it normally coincides with an NFL playoff weekend, 533 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: which takes up Saturday and Sunday, and so you wouldn't 534 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: want to shift it to a Saturday. But do it anyway. 535 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: Either do it anyway, or adjust your postseason schedule to 536 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: where you have your national championship game in that off week, 537 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: you know, before the Super Bowl, or bump it up, 538 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: or have arrangements to where you know you have a 539 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: primetime slot on a Saturday for the National Championship game 540 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: and NFL postseason games are played earlier in the day. 541 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: However you make that work. I mean, if you have 542 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: to go head to head with the NFL, it would 543 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: seem a lot more authentic for a college football experience 544 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: to play your championship game on the same day on 545 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: a seven day calendar as you do ninety five percent 546 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: of your regular season games, and yet for some reason, 547 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: we play it on a Monday night, and it doesn't 548 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: affect me. I'm fortunate enough to be in a world 549 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: right now where they pay me to go to these 550 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: events in a normal year. And so, you know, Tuesday 551 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: morning comes around, I'm waking up in a hotel room somewhere. 552 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: But you guys, and I've lived this life for a 553 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: long time too. I worked the nine to six and 554 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: so you go home and then there's an hour before 555 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: kickoff of a championship game. You've even at work all day, 556 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: and then when the game ends, you know you've got 557 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: to be at work again about eight hours from that point. 558 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: I mean, what kind of fun can you really have there? Like, 559 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: what kind of event, how big a party game you 560 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: really have like people have with the Super Bowl? And 561 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: then just call out of work Monday, which is natural 562 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: sometimes it's a holiday. So I'm with you, you know 563 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, I think this poll will probably 564 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: be heavily tilted towards Saturday option over or Monday option. 565 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: I don't ever think we've gotten straight answers to why 566 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: it has to be that way. I just think it 567 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: kind of is that way. And so after everyone wants 568 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: to talk about playoffs, four teams, eighteen sixteen teams, let's 569 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: start with just making it feel a lot more like 570 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: a college football experience. How about that. I wanted to 571 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: save this for last because I wanted to sort of 572 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: be as mellowed out as possible by the time I 573 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: got to this point. But I'm not a little upset 574 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: by this, Okay, so let me calm myself, let me 575 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: gather myself. So the dead period has indeed been extended. 576 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: We talked about this on the Sunday Night Show. I 577 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: was stunned by the volume of feedback that I got. 578 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to share some of it with you. I'm 579 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: not going to give names, but I'm going to share 580 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: some of it with you. But I talked about how 581 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: embarrassing I thought it was the way that the dead 582 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: period has been handled. The dead period essentially meaning prospective 583 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: athletes recruits. In other words, they haven't been able to 584 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: go visit places. High school coaches have not been able 585 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: to get out on the road, and see them. A 586 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: lot of these kids have missed camp opportunities in person 587 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: evaluations because of that. It just heavily impacted the twenty 588 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: twenty one class. We had Nick Saban on the show 589 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. He shared with us it'll 590 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: affect the twenty twenty two class even more. And so 591 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: now we get it official from the mouth of the 592 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: Oversight Committee to the rubber staff of the NCAA. We 593 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: are extending the dead period until the end of May. 594 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: So the next possible date that things could open up 595 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: is going to be June. First, here we say is 596 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: it is mid February. March is out the window, April 597 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: is out the window. May is out the window. Three 598 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: months further, we just kicked the can down the road 599 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: on the Sunday Night Show. I told you what all 600 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: that means that kids are going to miss. But now 601 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: I just want to quickly reiterate the reasons that are 602 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 1: being given why this is necessary are not necessities, so 603 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: it's not necessary. The reasons being given are very lazy. 604 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: They are a very straw mannish. It's not true reasons, 605 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: it's just talking point reasons. They've probably been focus grouped 606 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: before they were ever handed out. But it's kicking a 607 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: can down the road. It is further robbing a lot 608 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: of kids who are going to very much need that 609 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: opportunity and need those few months. It's robbing them of that. 610 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 1: And you've got a lot of and here's the reality factor. 611 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: You got a lot of presidents out there, and that's 612 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: who's to blame here. If you want to blame someone, 613 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: it's not the nc DOUBLEA. They just they made the 614 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: call they were told to make. In this case, I 615 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: think you gotta direct your attention elsewhere. There are a 616 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: lot of university presidents out there that are comfortable with 617 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: status quo right now. It means they're not having to 618 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: spend money. They already fell short in terms of a 619 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: fiscal or physical year this past year, and they are 620 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: comfortable with not having to spend money on visits and 621 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: not having to spend money on sending their coaches out 622 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: on the road. And for every Alabama, there are twenty 623 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: programs fractional to Alabama who also fit under the NCUBLEA perview, 624 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: the D one Oversight Committee perview, and hey man, they're 625 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: happy to not be outspent by the big spenders right now. 626 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: The problem they're in lives. Folks. You didn't hear me 627 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: say a word right there about what's truly best for players, 628 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: And you didn't hear me say a word about safety, 629 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: because that's not at the forefront of this decision. It 630 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: hasn't been for a long time now. It was needed. 631 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: We needed to have a dead period at the outset 632 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: of this thing. No one knew what was going on. 633 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: Do you understand we just played an entire college football season. 634 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: We just played a season where in virtually every state 635 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: we're talking about here, teams went back and forth. In 636 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: many cases, we allow fans in the stadium. And now 637 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: we're telling high school kids now it's not safe for 638 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: you to come out of your house and with your 639 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: mom and dad go to a campus where they can 640 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: have protocol in place and you can walk around and 641 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: tour a campus. It's not safe. It's not safe for 642 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: a college coach that just went through an entire season 643 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: to come to your school. You know, he may go 644 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: to publics today, he may go to the post office. 645 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: He can't come to your school though, where kids already 646 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: are around other people. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense, 647 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: doesn't it. So let's die into this because I wanted 648 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: to give you some feedback that I've gotten. As usual, 649 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people are kind of scared to voice 650 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: their opinion. Some of them could have jobs to lose, 651 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: some of them are in a position where they're not 652 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: allowed to speak out on this sort of thing. The 653 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: feedback has been overwhelming. I thank you. I encourage you 654 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: keep giving me the feedback. Josh paid seven zero six 655 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com, on Twitter at late kick Josh, 656 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate it and so and the audience appreciates it 657 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: because of what I'm about to do. So let me 658 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: give you some of the feedback I've gotten. So I 659 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: wrote a lot of it down. I'm going to paraphrase 660 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: a lot of this. Countless coaches have reached out to me, 661 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: and members of maybe the off field staffs, personnel departments, 662 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: recruiting departments. These folks, in a lot of cases are 663 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: livid the I would call it the unanimous cinema. Actually, 664 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: I can't think of one person who disagreed the unanimous 665 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 1: cinemon these several people. It's not one or two folks. 666 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: Several people in the coaching world and the player personnel 667 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: world laugh at the idea that they could not conde 668 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: visits both on campus and off campus at high school safely. 669 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's laughable on the surface. I don't have 670 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: to dive any deeper. I mean to suggest, after having 671 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: an entire football season that we couldn't conduct recruiting visits 672 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: or go to high schools is laughable. So they are irate, 673 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: and they see by the way a lot of these 674 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: player personnel and coaching types, they understand there are some 675 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: in their midst who aren't speaking up because they enjoy 676 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of downtime right now. You know, if 677 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: you can't be out on the road recruiting, then you know, 678 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: maybe you get to sit at a desk a little 679 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: more often, maybe you get to go home a little 680 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,719 Speaker 1: earlier in the afternoon. They also know that there are 681 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: some presidents at smaller schools relative to the big boys, 682 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: who are happy with status quo right now, and who 683 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: affected and impacted this decision. And what they want to 684 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: say is, how about we open it up and give choice, 685 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: And if you still want to sit at home, that's fine. 686 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna lap you, but you can sit at home, 687 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: that's fine. Just give us the opportunity to go do 688 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: what we're paid millions of dollars to do. I'll tell 689 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: you who else I heard from, probably more than any group, 690 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: was players and parents of players unanimously. Again, I think 691 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: I had one person who said to me, you know, 692 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: even after they open this up, I'll probably be hesitant. 693 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: That was one person, God bless you. You do whatever 694 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: you want to do. I'm fine with you having that choice. 695 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: But then I had dozens and dozens and easily dozens 696 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: and dozens of other kids and parents who said this 697 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: is ludicrous. And see they're the most emotional because they're 698 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: the ones who don't get another opportunity, Like at twenty 699 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: four seven sports, after the class of twenty twenty two, 700 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: you know what we're going to do. We're going to 701 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: turn the page and there'll be a class of twenty 702 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: twenty three, and then twenty four and then twenty five. 703 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: That cycle just keeps going. Okay, we get to do 704 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: it every year. If you're an actual junior right now 705 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: about to be a senior, you only get one shot 706 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: at that. And if you're going to be a five 707 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: star kid, the number six overall player in the country, 708 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: this is not going to impact you. But if you're 709 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: like the number seven hundred and eighty four player in 710 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: the country, and you would have been a guy who previously, 711 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: if they got their eyeballs on, you can't state or 712 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: UTSA would have given a committable offer to and you 713 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: can't get an in person of value, and you can't 714 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: get on campus. And once we finally open up this 715 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: dead period and we allow visits to take place, if 716 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: you don't have the means to do it in the summer, 717 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: and you don't get to take your official visits like 718 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: you wanted to because by the time it's it's the 719 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: time has come around to do that, your actual high 720 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,479 Speaker 1: school football season is cranking up. There are a million 721 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: different needs they could get in the way. What do 722 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: you do? Will you tell that kid? They know this? Okay? 723 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: Those parents and players they already get it. And that's 724 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: what needs to be at the forefront, because what they 725 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: keep saying is people keep telling us what's in our 726 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: best interest. No one asks us, No one comes to 727 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: us and says, hey, would you just would you like 728 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: the option? Because that's what they want. They just want 729 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: the option to kind of control as much as they 730 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: can their own future. I've gotten feedback from college professors. 731 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: I had one the other day that has been back 732 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 1: and forth with me several times throughout this entire ordeal. 733 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: This is a guy that I had some disagreements with 734 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: early at the outset of COVID where there was I 735 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: wasn't making many definitive statements back then because I didn't 736 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,479 Speaker 1: want to sound like an idiot. I mean, I still 737 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: don't make many definitive statements on something that I'm not 738 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: an expert on. I don't even claim to be a 739 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: college football expert, so I'm certainly not an epidemiologist by 740 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: any stretched the imagination. But he and I were going 741 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: back and forth because he was of the opinion that 742 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: we needed to really really clamp things down and he 743 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: didn't even want us to have a college football season. Okay, 744 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: so I mean we had cordial talk, disagreed on it, 745 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: but it was what it was. I get an email 746 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: from him the other day and the title of it 747 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: was I'm willing to admit when I was wrong. But 748 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: so this guy now is very emphatic, just kind of paraphrasing, 749 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 1: talking about how this has to change, because it's very 750 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: clear to anyone who is the least bit observant, you're 751 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: taking a generation of kids. You're taking a classification of kids, 752 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: and again, the top dogs in any class, they're going 753 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: where they want to, regardless, but that's a fraction of 754 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: the overall pie chart. And you're taking a lot of 755 00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: kids whose plan a is playing football, getting out of 756 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: maybe a bad home situation, getting out of a poor upbringing, 757 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: very limited options academically. But maybe football is that kind 758 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: of beacon there that you know is there, and if 759 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: you maximize your potential there, you could go get a 760 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: life change in college degree, even if you don't play 761 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: past the college level, and you could change your future, 762 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: your family's future, your kid's future. And you're talking about 763 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: in some cases those kinds of opportunities being plucked for 764 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: no other reason than really politics. In the world of 765 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: college football. It's a different flavor of politics, but it's 766 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: still politics, and it's enraged a lot of people. I'm 767 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: just telling you, it's been a lot of people very 768 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: much out of shape. And they they're not the kind 769 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: that are going to go march on NCAA headquarters tomorrow. 770 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: It's not going to be trending on Twitter tomorrow. But 771 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: there is this undercurrent of a lot of people very 772 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: frustrated with the way this has been handled, and so 773 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: I haven't heard their voices given enough of a megaphone 774 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: national So whatever small part we can play here, I 775 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 1: have tried to play that part and listen hopefully now 776 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: I think January first is our next shot. Hopefully things 777 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: get opened up there and hopefully, you know, opportunities that 778 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: may be missed end up not being missed. I don't 779 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: know how this is all going to play out. I 780 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: just wanted to give the voice to a lot of 781 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: folks who don't have one speaking for him right now 782 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: at a national level, who are very frustrated. So I 783 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: can tell you I hear you. You're not alone. A 784 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: lot of other people hear you, and there are a 785 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: lot of us that are every bit as aggravated and 786 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: fed up as you are. So wanted to wrap up 787 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: on that. I thank you again for watching the show 788 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: and following the show even in the off season. O word, 789 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: nasty word. Make sure you are subscribed to the twenty 790 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 1: four seven Sports YouTube channel and the Late Kick podcast. 791 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: And remember the second we passed thirteen k on Twitter 792 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: at Late Kick. Josh want to get thirteen thousand followers there, 793 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: and when we do, we got a big new feature 794 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: coming really excited about it, and I wish you guys 795 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: go ahead and this happen, because I'm already ready. I 796 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: got the format ready and everything, and then I've already 797 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: got plans for what we're going to do as our 798 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: next benchmark event. So I know that a lot of 799 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: people are using that O word. We don't believe in 800 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: it around here. Spring practice is about to start, by 801 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: the way, so we've already bridged ourselves almost to spring practice, 802 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: and then once we get out of spring practice, we'll 803 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: have another little bridge over May and June, and then 804 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: we get to media days, and after that we got 805 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 1: a little countdown of a couple of weeks until fall 806 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: practice open. So I just got you basically all the 807 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 1: way to the football season in like two breaths. It'll come, 808 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: don't worry, it'll come until then for Director Imeritis, Colin 809 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: and our entire team in Connecticut having to chop this 810 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: up even as I do it from a very very 811 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: remote location inside my own apartment. Thank you so much 812 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: for joining us. I'm Josh Fate. This has been the 813 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: late kick. Have a great rest of your evening, and 814 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: God bless