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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie, and welcome to stuff one never

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Speaker 1: told you protection of iHeartRadio. And yes, unfortunately I am

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Speaker 1: I'm sad I miss Samantha, but I think it's okay

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Speaker 1: for this one because we have talked about Jurassic Park

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Speaker 1: She will be back. Do not worry. I yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: jesssic Park. We are talking about doctor Ellie Sadler, who

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Speaker 1: I wasn't going to necessarily do, but it just felt

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Speaker 1: so fitting because it is the thirtieth anniversary of Jurassic

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Speaker 1: have a really fun update about my cards that I mentioned.

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Speaker 1: My Jurassic Park collectible cards that I had as a kid. Well,

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Speaker 1: what's fun? You want to stick around for the update? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I would say, see our recent women in Creature

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Speaker 1: I told the story in our Archaeology Paleontology episode. I

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Speaker 1: my friend's conversation about Jurassic Park and the newer Jurassic

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Speaker 1: Parks and Michael Crichton and I learned a lot. I

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Speaker 1: learned a lot. But all right, that being said, let's

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Speaker 1: get into it, doctor Ellie Sadler, based on Michael Crichton's books.

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Speaker 1: The character in the books who I learned in this

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Speaker 1: paleobotanist invited to Jurassic Park along with her coworker, Alan

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Speaker 1: Grant by John Hammond, who is looking to get some

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Speaker 1: at first Ellie is in awe of the extinct plants

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Speaker 1: they were chosen because they looked good even though they

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Speaker 1: she tries to get Alan to ride with kids Tim

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Speaker 1: in the first movie specifically, she's never quite the love interest.

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Speaker 1: I think Laura Dern was twenty five for the first one,

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