1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 2: All right, second hour Clay Buck starts right now, and 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: we may take some of Joe Biden's remarks here. He 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: called the lid yesterday the President of United States figured, oh, 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: it's you. 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 3: Know, Monday, I'll be done at noon. 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: Even though a big war is just broken out between 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: Israel and Hamas the Biden regime on foreign policy, call 10 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: it shaky would be an understatement, disastrous certainly closer to 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: the mark. 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 3: And we've seen what's going on in Ukraine. 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: You know, this isn't even getting much attention, but it 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: is now effectively the codsensus, or maybe just the recognition 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: of reality that all of our efforts in Ukraine to 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: support the fight against Russia have resulted in this year 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: a total stalemate. There's no real trading of ground. It's 18 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: they're just dug in and we are now in a 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: large a war of attrition, both in terms of casualties 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: and materiel. And this sort of thing gets attention from 21 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: people in the national security world. We're honest about what's 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: going on, because they say, well, if we're having to 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: supply munitions to Ukraine. What does that mean if we 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: have to quickly turn and supply munitions elsewhere? Do we 25 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: have that capacity? Do we have the industrial capacity to 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: meet the need of another fight that we could be 27 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: brought into now? 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 3: It is my. 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: Fervent hope that the US will be able to stay 30 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 2: out of this conflict. Obviously we support our ally Israel, 31 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: as we always do, but this is their fight and 32 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: they are going to take They are taking this fight 33 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: to the enemy. And I think that the response that 34 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: the Prime Minister net Yahoo is going to engage in here, 35 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: or rather what he's going to order the Israeli forces 36 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: to do, We'll hopefully send a lesson and get some 37 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 2: measure of some measure of justice here in the aftermath 38 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: of this attack. Guys, let me know when Biden actually 39 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: goes on the er, because when we get to it, 40 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: there's something that you see here though that does it 41 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 2: all ties in with the third Obama term concept? You 42 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: have to remember the Obama administration in its second term, 43 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: and many of the senior people of that administration still 44 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: exist in places like the State Department, are still advisors 45 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: going in and out of these think tanks. And remember 46 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 2: the currency of think tanks. Well, one, it's kind of 47 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: a holding area for people when their political party is 48 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: out of power, right, But it's to influence politicians on 49 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: Capitol Hill and to put forward policy ideas that will 50 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: then be acted upon by the executive branch. So the 51 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: Obama administration, whether you're talking about on the foggy bottom 52 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: State Department side or the think tanks or there was 53 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: an obsession with getting some kind of a deal with Iran. 54 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: As you know, they call it the Joint Comprehensive Plan 55 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: of Action the JCPOA. 56 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: This is just the Iran nuclear deal. 57 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: Now President Trump pulled us out of this with the 58 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: recognition that it was a bad deal for us. It 59 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: enriched Iran dramatically and enriching an enemy state that does 60 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: not change its behavior, and that is the primary sponsor, 61 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: not it is the primary state sponsor of terror in 62 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: the world. That is not in our interests. But Biden 63 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: is not some foreign policy grand strategist. He's not somebody 64 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: who has a deep understanding well of anything, but certainly 65 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: of of the Middle East. He is effectively a continuation 66 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: of what you had under the Obama administration, which was 67 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: anything to get a deal with Iran. The Obama negotiators 68 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: on the Iran nuclear deal. It's like they walked into 69 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: the car lot and they said to the guy trying 70 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: to sell the car, I'm not leaving here without buying 71 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: a vehicle. I don't even know what the price is. 72 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: I don't know what car it is, but I'm not 73 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: leaving without a vehicle. 74 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: Right. 75 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: If you're trying to sell cars, that's the customer you want. Oh, really, 76 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: you're definitely buying a car. You don't care. That was 77 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: their approach. They showed up with the winning hand and 78 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: managed to fold and fold and keep losing more and 79 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: more chips in the middle of the table. And it's 80 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: because they are deeply ideologically committed to Natcha. Really, what 81 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: it is is they think that Iran is our fault. 82 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: The Left believes that the problems in Iran are still 83 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: our fault. 84 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: They go back to the Shaw, They talk about the 85 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: coup and there's all stuff. 86 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: They believe that there is some racism that is at 87 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: the heart of the US treatment of the Iranian regime. 88 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: Somehow that doesn't extend. You know, there's all these other 89 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: countries in the Middle Asia. We have a great relationship 90 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: with the Jordanians, for example. But you know there's racism 91 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: toward Iran because they have very simplistic, but mechanists stick 92 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: thinking about these issues. It's true of all Marxists and 93 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: all totalitarians, whether soft tatalitarians like we have in this 94 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: country or the full scale you know, stalinists of the 95 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: Soviet Union. Is they think in mechanistic, machine like terms. 96 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: You know, this is what I'm supposed to say. These 97 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: are the good guys. These are the bad guys. 98 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 3: Nuance. 99 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: They hate that moral clarity. They hate that even more. 100 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: And that's what you see here with regard to the 101 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: Biden administration and how it handles Iran. There isn't a 102 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: moral clarity that this is an enemy regime. They think 103 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:11,679 Speaker 2: they're just one hand out away, one hand out away 104 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: from the Mullahs. All of a sudden, you know, watching 105 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: MTV wearing T shirts and Jeffersonian democracy breaks out or something. 106 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm exaggerating, but. 107 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: Also does MTV around I don't I forget. 108 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: I'm exaggerating, but you get the point. They've been saying 109 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: this for a long time. We can work with them. 110 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: I mean, you look at this is true more broadly 111 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: of the foreign policy intelligentsia. Some of the biggest issues, 112 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: many of the biggest issues of the last I'd certainly 113 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 2: say thirty years China, it'll get richer and more democratic 114 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: and more liberal. 115 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 3: That was a consensus opinion. 116 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 2: Wrong. 117 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 3: The Middle East. 118 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: If we just encourage one democracy here or there, there'll 119 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 2: be a flowering democracy everywhere, and it'll be peaceful, and 120 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you know, it'll be like we're 121 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: dealing with the Belgium or something over the wrong. Afghanistan. Hey, 122 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: it hasn't worked for I don't know, two thousand years, 123 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: but this time around, we're going to create a functional, 124 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: self sustaining Afghan state. Wrong and with Iran. If we 125 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: just are a little nicer to the Mullus post nineteen 126 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: seventy nine, if we just bend a little more, give 127 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: them a little more, they'll eventually stop being so heinous 128 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: and awful and want to kill us. By the way, 129 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: probably thinking about the parallel that comes to mind between 130 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: the Israelis and Hamas and Gaza and the Palestinians therein 131 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: they made this concession, they gave they gave Gaza over 132 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: They said, all right, Palestinians are in charge. 133 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: Palestinians elected Hamas. Now, I'm sure people would talk about 134 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: how there's a degree of duress there. 135 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: I mean, would you would you want to show up 136 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: to a Hamas run election in Gaza and say, yeah. 137 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: I'm not going to vote for you guys. 138 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I do think there's substantial support for Hamas 139 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: inside of Gaza, because, as I said, it is a 140 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: it is running a death cult, very similar to what 141 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: you have with isis very similar to what you've had 142 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: with both al Qaeda and al Qaeda in Iraq, which 143 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 2: were different entities, even though it's a similar name. This 144 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: is something that now when we step back and look 145 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: at more broadly, you can see the threads. You can 146 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: see the connective tissue between these Biden and Obama policies 147 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: which are really the same thing, the appeasement of Iran 148 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: and the overall. 149 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 3: Trajectory of Mid East instability. In fact, one of the. 150 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 2: It's not thought of very much anymore, but it was 151 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: true at the time if you had looked at the 152 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 2: Obama administration. Remember, keep thinking of Biden is the third 153 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: term of Obama, and then everything makes sense. What we 154 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: are witnessing now, as we know, is Obama's third term 155 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 2: Obama's just not the president. But it's the same apparatus, 156 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: the same policies, the same biases inclinations, ideology. But if 157 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 2: you went back and you looked at the Obama administration 158 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: in its first term, and then you looked at the 159 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: end of it all, and you thought to yourself, every 160 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: conflict area you looked at this, every area that was unstable, destabilized, 161 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: got worse basically over the course of Obama's time in office. 162 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 2: In fact, it was an Obama administration decision to surge 163 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: and simultaneously announced departure from Afghanistan. You remember that, but 164 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: over I think it was over one hundred thousand troops 165 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: in country, send our brave marines down to Helmond and Condahar. 166 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: And it was because Afghanistan was the good war and 167 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: Iraq was the bad war. 168 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: You'll remember that. 169 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: And then there was the Libya disaster. Hillary Clinton's fingerprints 170 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: all over that. You look at every country, every major 171 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: conflict zone, and they made it worse. And you looked 172 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 2: at Iranian behavior, and Iranian behavior became increasingly brazen and aggressive. 173 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: So it was just a massive legacy of failure. And 174 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: now I know Biden is going to be addressing the 175 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 2: nation soon about what's going on Israel. It will be 176 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: some boiler plate. There's no question about how we stand 177 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: with our ally Israel, which is true. I mean, that's 178 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: a fundamental reality still in American politics, which is a 179 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: good thing. But are you going to hear anything from 180 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: Joe Biden about a vision? Are you going to hear 181 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: Joe Biden condemn members of his own party who either 182 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: ally themselves with or soft pedal or just try in 183 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: some way to rationalize. 184 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: What has gone on here now? Of course not. 185 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 2: There is within the Democrat Party a clear lane that 186 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: exists for I guess you call them, you know, Erano files, 187 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: people who are obsessed with appeasing Iran as a means 188 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: of trying to make it a country that is normal. 189 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: You know, there's so many countries you have to sometimes 190 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: remind yourself of this, so many countries all over the 191 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: world that no one worries about. We get along with fine, 192 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: everything's cool, no problems. Iran doesn't have to be a 193 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 2: sadistic Jie hottist oppressive. 194 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 3: Autocracy. It doesn't have to be that, but it is. 195 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: It's really both. It's run by clerics and it's a kleptocracy, right. 196 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: It's the religious class, and they just steal the wealth 197 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: of the state, use it for their own ends, fund 198 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: these terrorist groups all throughout the region. That's one part 199 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: of this that I think is a long term loss 200 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 2: for sure, is the ramifications for greater normalization between Israel 201 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: and other states in the region. They'll just be pressure 202 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: on this because of what has happened here. But to 203 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: think that Biden and the people around him have any 204 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: good ideas about this would be to ignore their resumes, 205 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: their decision making, and forty years of Biden blunders on 206 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: the world stage, going back to when he was a senator. 207 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: I believe it was said of Biden by Gates, the 208 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: former Secretary of Defense, that over the course of Biden's 209 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: forty some odd years in the Senate, he was the 210 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 2: most reliantly wrong on foreign policy individual of anybody period. 211 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: So in some ways, you may have the dumbest foreign 212 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: policy mind who's been in the game at a high level, 213 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: and Joe Biden as commander in chief right now at 214 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: this point in time. So then you get to is 215 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: it better if people if those former Obama advisors are 216 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: the ones making the decisions? Is that a more comfortable situation, 217 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 2: or would you want Joe Biden to be the one 218 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: who's trying to craft US policy in the Middle East 219 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: Right now? Their appeasement has not worked. In fact, it 220 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: is worse than that. Their appeasement has emboldened enemies like Iran, 221 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: and we have not we have not yet seen I 222 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: think the worst of it. I do believe that there 223 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: is more coming. I hope I am wrong on this, 224 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 2: but that attack, given its depravity, the planning the players 225 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: involved in this plot, has bela Iran hamas other militant 226 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: groups in the region. I think this is the part 227 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 2: of a longer phase, a longer plan here. Well, we'll 228 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: see if Joe Biden ends up saying anything worthwhile. We'll 229 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: join some of that here in progress as we go, 230 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: And like I said, we'll also turn our minds to 231 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: politics and RFK as a third party candidate. Some early 232 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: indicators for what's going to be a very interesting contest 233 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: in the Arizona Senate race. 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On the phone line, looks like Biden has 261 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: pushed back his live address to the nation where he's 262 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: going to talk about the Israeli Hamas war, Israel Hamas 263 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: war that is underway right now. I had mentioned to you, 264 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: and this has gotten a lot of attention, this thirty 265 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: one groups that are Harvard groups that have signed a 266 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: statement of solidarity with the Palestinians. 267 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 3: And as I sit. 268 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: Here, I could do three hours effectively of this radio 269 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: show just on the describing the incidents of butchery, barbarism 270 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: and savagery of these Hamas attackers. But you know, I 271 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: don't want to take us into the depths of despair. 272 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: I want you to be aware of what happened, but 273 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 2: I don't want us to, you know, go too deep 274 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: into that hell. It's not good for your brain, not 275 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: good for your psychology. But these groups, I mean, I'm 276 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: seeing the groups that at Harvard have signed after what 277 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: we've seen, and they're all aware. I'm sure because it's 278 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: all over the internet. Of what's gone on here. You 279 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: have Harvard Graduate Students for Palestine, Harvard Islamics Society, Harvard 280 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 2: Law School, Justice for Palestine, Harvard Kennedy's School Bangladesh Caucus, 281 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 2: Harvard Kennedy School Muslim Caucus. It goes on, and I'm 282 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: trying to see what else is on this one. Harvard 283 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: Undergraduate Nepali Students Association, Harvard College Pakistan Students Association. 284 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 3: Interesting that they. 285 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: Are all these Muslim groups that on this issue at 286 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: this time, expressed solidarity on campus with the Palestinian hamas terrorists. 287 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 2: They think they're being anti colonial, but what they're really doing, 288 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 2: and that's a part of this. They also think they're 289 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: being anti racist because they always think of Israel as 290 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: white and Palestinians as all brown. It's actually not even accurate, 291 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 2: but that's a whole other conversation. They are siding with 292 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: barbarism over civilization at Harvard. Harvard should be ashamed. In 293 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 2: many other universities that have this going on should be 294 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: ashamed as well. Can you learn to harness the power 295 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: of artificial intelligence to make money in the markets? According 296 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: to Tikachwari, a trusted crypto expert, it's now possible. 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The website for this event is Conan COO 312 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 2: n A N twenty twenty three dot com by Palm 313 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: Beach Research Group. 314 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 3: Well, it looks like. 315 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 2: It's tough to wake Biden up from nap time because 316 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: once again they have moved back this address to the 317 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 2: nation about the Hamas terror attack on Israel, which I 318 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: should note there are some who are saying I'm trying 319 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: to find the specific Israeli source, but saying that this 320 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: is their nine to eleven, so clearly a massive shock 321 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 2: to the state of Israel. And as we've been talking 322 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 2: what we'll continue to talk about it more in the 323 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 2: third hour. I did want to speak a little bit 324 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: about politics though for a moment, you know, here at home, 325 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 2: because I think this is fascinating, because I remember and 326 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 2: those of you who listen to the show daily, we 327 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: love you for listening. If you can listen daily or 328 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: once a week, whenever you can listen, but daily's best. 329 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 2: Daily three hours, that's the preferred That's the recommended dosage 330 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 2: of Clay and Buck is daily for three hours. But 331 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: you know, an hour is okay, we'll take that won't 332 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: get quite the same effect as the full three hours. 333 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 2: But you'll recall I was the skeptical one about RFK Junior, right, 334 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: I've been skeptical about RFK Junior from the beginning. He's 335 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: a Democrat, and I have this when you're talking about 336 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: Democrat politicians, I have this very straightforward principle that I apply, 337 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: which is, can't. 338 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 4: Trust him, can't trust him, and there can be right 339 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 4: on some things, as RFK Junior is correct on coronavirus response. 340 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 2: Interesting to see what he thinks about all vaccines and 341 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: everything else. That's another layer of the debate, another layer 342 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: of the discussion. But he's right that Fauci was a 343 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: horrible tyrant and a bureaucratic nightmare for the country, and 344 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: he has said some interesting things on the border. 345 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: Well. 346 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 2: Now that he's launching his third party candacy, it is 347 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 2: fascinating to watch people on both sides, Democrat and Republican, 348 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: argue over who he is going to take more votes from. 349 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 2: A chance that RFK Junior is going to be President 350 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: of the United States is I can't say zero, but 351 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 2: I would put it at less than one percent. Right, 352 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: it would. It would be the craziest thing. RFK Junior 353 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 2: winning the presidency as a third party candidate would be 354 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: orders of magnitude, bigger shock than Donald Trump defeating Hillary 355 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: Clinton in twenty sixteen. And I walked around for a 356 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 2: few days after that like we had been hit by 357 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 2: an asteroid, but you know in a good way, right, 358 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 2: or just some crazy event had happened. You know, we 359 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 2: had discovered intelligent life on a foreign planet. Turns out 360 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: they're really cool and just wanted to hang out with us. 361 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 3: It was. 362 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: It was an amazing time right after Trump's election in 363 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, and walking around New York City, it felt 364 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: like everybody who had voted against Trump was in such a. 365 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 3: State of shock. 366 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 2: But it would be a bigger shock than that if 367 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 2: RFK Junior won that, I'm comfortable saying it would be 368 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: the craziest election situation. 369 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe in a history of the country. 370 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 2: So unlikely he's going to win, is the point. So 371 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: then it turns into why is he running? Well, I 372 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: think he's running for reasons of I will say reasons 373 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 2: of ego. Sure, Now, that's not really. 374 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 3: A put down. It's not a put down. 375 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: All politicians run out of some degree of the belief 376 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: that their voice and their judgment and what they bring 377 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: to the table is special and unique and important enough 378 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: that they should be given power instead of other people, 379 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 2: that the people should vote for them, and that they 380 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 2: should be the ones that move forward on this. But 381 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: in RFK Junior's case, I think it's also a partially 382 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: getting his voice into the mix here on issues like health, 383 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: issues like corporatism. Fine, but what's the political reality of 384 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: his running? What is that really going to do? I 385 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: bring you to the Washington Post reporting here. Attorney Robert F. 386 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior's pivot Monday to an independent run for president 387 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: met immediate resistance from Republican leaders, who have concluded that 388 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 2: his new effort threatens to cannibalize their vote share next year, 389 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: helping to re elect President Biden. 390 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: I thought this all along, and this is why. 391 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 2: Even early on I kept telling everybody I like him 392 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: on a few issues, but ultimately he's a Democrat and 393 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: the people who were really excited about him were Republicans. 394 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: There was a. 395 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: Brief moment in time where they showed some polling that 396 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: the Democrats twenty percent of Democrats something like that, like 397 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: RFK Junior. Yeah, but unless he's the Democrat nominee. You 398 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: got to remember the Democrats are you know, they they 399 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 2: move in in lockstep together. They are hive mined. You know, 400 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: there is are there any Star Trek nerds? I know 401 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: there are some in the audience. I'm a dilettant when 402 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 2: it comes to Star Trek. I know a little bit, 403 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: not a lot. 404 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 3: You know, there's the. 405 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: Borg right, the cyborgs that are all connected and they 406 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: can kind of all, you know, think and move as one. 407 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: That's the Democrats. It's like a machine mind. Like I said, 408 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: the mechanistic approach, the machine approach to politics and to thinking. 409 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: So if Joe Biden is their candidate, they're all going 410 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 2: to line up behind Joe Biden. There's not going to 411 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: be twenty percent of Democrats writing in for RFK Junior. 412 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 2: I also think that we have to be we have 413 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: to be honest and look at the ways that there 414 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: can be political manipulation that goes on here. Some people 415 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 2: don't like hearing this, but there were in twenty twenty 416 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 2: two in some primaries candidates who were very you know, 417 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: very much on the right and somewhat identified with the 418 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: America First movement who were given money or who got 419 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: campaign money, you know, donations from Democrats. 420 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 3: Because they thought they would be easier to beat. The 421 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: Democrats thought they would be easier to beat. And so sure. 422 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: Enough, that was a successful strategy. You know, think about 423 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: the way this could play out now with RFK Junior. 424 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 2: Republicans gave him all of this attention and media and 425 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 2: allowed him to build a national political profile very quickly. 426 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 3: Very it wasn't the Democrats. I mean, sorry, Rogans. R 427 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 3: f K Junior's. 428 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: Rise was built on Joe Rogan show show, Talk Radio, 429 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 2: No Question, Fox News. That's where he got most of 430 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: his exposure because he was willing to say things specifically 431 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: about COVID and about Biden that we wanted to hear 432 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 2: on the right. 433 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 3: Well, if you look at the. 434 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: Rn C now, they've put out a statement about Kennedy 435 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 2: that says he is quote just another radical, far left Democrat. 436 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: Make no mistake, a Democrat in independence clothing is still 437 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: a Democrat. RFK Junior cannot hide from his record of 438 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: endorsing Hillary, supporting the Green New Deal, fighting against the 439 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 2: Keystone Pipeline, and praising AOC's tax hikes. He is your 440 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: typical elitist liberal and voters won't be fooled. That's from 441 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 2: RNC Chairman Ronal McDaniel. Now, put aside, whatever you think 442 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: of the RNC and Chairman McDaniel, this is I think where. 443 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 3: We all have to take up. We all have to 444 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 3: be on team reality here for a second. 445 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 2: Recognize this is going to be a very close selection 446 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 2: in a handful of states where the slightest movement of 447 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: the needle could determine that state and could could be 448 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: a major part determining the presidential election. And I do 449 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: not see a world where in those states more Democrats 450 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 2: are going to decide to peel off from Biden and 451 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 2: vote for RFK Junior than Republicans. So this is now 452 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 2: an additional challenge. And I will say I am something 453 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 2: of a lone voice here on the right when I 454 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 2: talk about how won Biden's going to be the nominee. 455 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 3: Ever, it's October tenth. 456 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 2: So remember the great plan with Newsom or with Michelle Obama. 457 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 3: Or you know whatever. 458 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: Remember we heard about all these plans. It's October tenth. 459 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: Unless they do something in they got less than what 460 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: sixty days to pull this whole thing off. 461 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,479 Speaker 3: You're hearing a lot about it these days. I'm not. 462 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: I've been saying that Joe Biden's going to be the 463 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: nominee because I think I could wrong, in which case 464 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be buying Clay a very expensive steak, and 465 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: I'll be eating humble pie. I won't be eating steak. 466 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: I'll be eating humble pie here on the show. But 467 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: I understand that the Democrats view the election as machine 468 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: based more than candidate based. The system is what people vote. 469 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 3: For in the Democrat Party. 470 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: Right, the system, it's like, it's not you're not casting 471 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 2: your vote for one player on the team. You're just 472 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: you know, you're a Yankees person, or you're a Marlins 473 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: person or a you know. I don't know, I can't Dodgers. 474 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of sports teams as worth. I 475 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 2: really really need Clay. But point here being Joe Biden, 476 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: I think is going to end up being the nominee. 477 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: And I also think that he, because of the Democrat apparatus, 478 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: is going to be for likely Trump. Please all the 479 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: desantists and Nikki Haley and Tim Scott, et cetera. 480 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 3: Voters. 481 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 2: I'm not counting out anybody. I don't think anybody can 482 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: predict the future. But assuming it is Trump, it's going 483 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: to be a challenge because of all of the things 484 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: that the Democrats have as an advantage, which and this 485 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: is kind of like the most basic of all, but 486 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 2: the media. We still have a media and a social 487 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: media world that is completely dominated by the left and 488 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: by Democrats. What do you think that's worth? And people 489 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: always say to me, oh, bucket's impossible. They can't get 490 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: that amount of votes or they can't do this. I 491 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 2: sit there, I say, like, almost ninety percent of New 492 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: York City votes democratics. I think it's eighty something. It's 493 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: a city of eight million people. The whole city is 494 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: basically democratic, except for Staten Island. Thank you Staten Island. 495 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: But you know, you sit there, you say, how is 496 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 3: this possible? It is possible. 497 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: And one of the reasons is because they have such 498 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: a massive propaganda apparatus advantage. These Democrats have a media 499 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: that is just constantly on their side pushing for their ideas. 500 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: I mean, think about what that's worth in terms of 501 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: how it affects, especially a national election. So yeah, as 502 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: Joe Biden a week candidate, is it absurd? 503 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: Is he too old? 504 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 3: Do I think this whole thing looks horrible for the country. Yeah, 505 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 3: all of that is true. It's going to be a 506 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 3: dogfight election. An RFK Junior may end up being the 507 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 3: difference maker, and I don't know what we do about that. 508 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 3: I don't have an answer for you. I'm thinking I'm 509 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 3: trying to think of how we counter this. Obviously, just 510 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 3: we need more Trump votes, right, we need more. We 511 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 3: need more Republicans to come out and not to be 512 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: swayed to go third party with RFK Junior because he's 513 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 3: good on really one thing. Okay, he's good on one thing, 514 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 3: and there are a lot of Republicans who are good 515 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 3: on that one thing, so it's not like it's that unique. 516 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 3: We're gonna have to figure out what the real numbers 517 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 3: look like here and how to make sure that this 518 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 3: doesn't turn into a situation. Can I mean, can you imagine. 519 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 3: I don't want to make you really depressed about politics too, but. 520 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: You imagine it's the day after election twenty twenty four, 521 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 2: and you know, because RFK Junior gets one or two 522 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: percent of the. 523 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 3: Vote, Joe Biden. 524 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: Gets four more years. This is what we want to avoid, folks. 525 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,239 Speaker 2: This is what we want to avoid. So we need 526 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: to start thinking about this critically and seriously now and 527 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: how this can be countered on the ground, get out 528 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 2: the vote efforts, messaging, all of it. 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Visit phx on air dot com today 546 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 2: for more information. 547 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: You don't know what you don't know right, but you could. 548 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 3: On the Sunday, Hang, So, I. 549 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 2: Was thinking about RK Junior's third party Roden and just 550 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: mark my words, if he stays, if he stays in 551 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: this and he's serious, he's uh, he could be He 552 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: could be a difference maker, certainly in a state or 553 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 2: two We'll see what kind of support he gets as 554 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 2: time goes on. I'm telling you, Democrats they march and lockstep. 555 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: It's Republicans. It's republics who get cute. It's conservatives who go, 556 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna vote for the libertarian or you 557 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 2: know I'm gonna like, don't do it. Don't do it 558 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 2: unless you want Biden for four more years or whomever. 559 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 2: For those who. 560 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: People are so like, fuck, you don't understand. It's not 561 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 3: gonna be Biden. H I don't know. I don't know 562 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 3: how many out there want to make a stake. 563 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: Back with me at this point about my it's gonna 564 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 2: be Remember I always said unless if Biden has you know, 565 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: a health issue where and then Kamala sends, that's still 566 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: the Biden Harris ticket. That could happen, but some grand 567 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: schemes or like replaced Biden. 568 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: No, I don't see it, and I haven't seen it 569 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 3: all along. 570 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 2: Uh John in oh wait no, sorry, wait before we 571 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 2: get to that. RFK Junior, Sorry, John, give me a second. 572 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 3: RFK Junior. Here he is talking about why he's running 573 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 3: and what the point is playing. 574 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 5: Well, let me just say one quick thing. There's a 575 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 5: poll that recently came out This chugs that in twenty thirteen, 576 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 5: eighty five percent of American kids between eighteen and thirty 577 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 5: five I've said they were proud of the United States 578 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 5: of America. At the same poll taken three weeks ago 579 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 5: said that only seventeen percent are. So we are this 580 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 5: politics of vitriol is just you know, we have completely 581 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 5: betrayed that generation of American kids. We need to give 582 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 5: them something to hope for, not telling them vote for 583 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 5: Biden because you know, we're scared. Rather vote for somebody 584 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 5: whose vision that you believe in that gives you hope 585 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 5: for our country. 586 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 2: I like his general patriotism, and I want to be clear, 587 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: I don't have anything against our I don't know the guy. 588 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 2: I think that he I like him on some issues, 589 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 2: like COVID. I think he's earnest in his desire to 590 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 2: do good things for the country. I think he's well intentioned. 591 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 2: I just also think he's a Democrat, and so on 592 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: a lot of issues, I'm going to disagree with him. 593 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: And that's that's been my consideration on this all along. 594 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 2: Let's go with John in clear Water, Florida. John, what's 595 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 2: going on? 596 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: Hey, Buck, this is the second time I'm calling the 597 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,959 Speaker 1: first time I got through, Thank goodness. Yeah, I mean 598 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: I was just curious. I'm be fuddled and I'm scratching 599 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: my head in regard to the Israeli situation. Sure with 600 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: you being a military historian like me, and they're working 601 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: for the CIA. 602 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 3: But. 603 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: When they you see the video when Hamas was running 604 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: through the border, okay, with the watch towers and you 605 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: know you saw the motorcycles, the front end loader. I mean, 606 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: did anybody unless there was nobody in the watchtowers because 607 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: maybe they were taken off for the holiday, But I 608 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: mean you have communications, guy, are you wondering why. 609 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 2: There wasn't a more rapid response, why there was no 610 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 2: quick reaction for basically. 611 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: Where's the air Where was the air support? Like some 612 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: idf apaches And if they're too far away because they 613 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 1: only go like two hundred and fifty miles an hour, 614 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: you could have sent a couple of f sixteen's that 615 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: would have got there minutes. 616 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 3: And John, thank you, thank you for calling in. 617 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 2: I mean, look, the the both the lack of warning 618 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: from the intelligence side on this and also the lack 619 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 2: of response is UH is a huge deficiency in UH. 620 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 2: The in what happened here From the IDF perspective and 621 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 2: the security perspective, I mean, that's there's gonna be a 622 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 2: lot of study of this. People are going to break 623 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 2: this down for a long time to come. But the 624 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 2: way the pal the Uh that Hamas and these Palestinians 625 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 2: set this up, it was meant to evade all these 626 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 2: protections in place. And remember they pulled this off at 627 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 2: a time when they were presenting themselves as not wanting 628 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 2: to fight with Israel.