1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Bill shifting the head to the Cowboys. UM. I heard 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: you on the radio a little bit yesterday talking about 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli and their defensive scheme. How prevalent is this 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: scheme in the NFL now? And and have you noticed, 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: like um, as we've evolved over time, maybe less meaning 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: less prevalent to what you maybe used to see five 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: ten years ago. Well, I think it, um, I think 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: that scheme has you know, remained in the league. Um. 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: You know, it just depends on who the head coach 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: or who the coordinator is it's running. And I think 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: there are some definitely some similarities to the Seattle three 12 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: scheme from a front standpoint, not so much from a 13 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: coverage standpoint. The coverage element is a little bit different, 14 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: but it's still you know, a heavy zone based So yeah, yeah, 15 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: it's still it's still there. Certainly we saw a lot 16 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: of it when Dungee was in Indianapolis. UM. And you know, 17 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: there there are other teams that use it, and certainly 18 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: there are elements of it. And then there are a 19 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: lot of teams that use Tampa the Tampa two coverage, 20 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: and even some of the Seattle three teams that started 21 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: incorporating that. But maybe not necessarily with the same front 22 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: that um, the overfront that you know the Cowboys like. 23 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: But the Cowboys get into some different looks on third 24 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: down and you know it's not exclusive to that, but 25 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's based on that certainly. And I 26 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: don't think coach Barronelli has changed too much fundamentally from 27 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: you know where he was went or some years ago 28 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: in Tampa and you know, then Detroit and so forth. 29 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: And it's sure the fundamentals and the all which really 30 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: which is it's the most important part of the dec 31 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure those are the same. Yeah. And I had 32 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: one one other questions when we got the Cowboys coming 33 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: to town. And when I think about them in the past, 34 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: like and their personnel, Like it would be easy to 35 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: Tom will say, Okay, Gil brains right, like and you've 36 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: talked about him before in terms of building that team 37 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: when they went on a great run. Um, I want 38 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: to like, how for you guys, for your personnel and 39 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: the structure you've set up with the Patriots where like 40 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: where would how would you describe that? Like it doesn't 41 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: seem like it's as easy it's to say, like Gil 42 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: Brandt with the Cowboys, like is that the Fairbank stuff 43 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: that you've talked about, Mike Lombardi, Um, what is the 44 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: person like, what is the personnel structure that you have 45 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: with the Patriots? Where did that come from? I guess 46 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: is what I'm asking. H Yeah, I'd say Cleveland. I 47 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: mean it's different, but it's you know some Yeah, the 48 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: variation of what we did in Cleveland. Thank you well. 49 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: My next question Michael chev right, I mean the last 50 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: question we have, so, UM, go ahead, Mike, all right. 51 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: Stacy Bhil, good morning. You say it's quarterback, right, so 52 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: you say great quarterback running back tandems in the past before. 53 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: But I'm curious if there's something about zig Elliott and 54 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: Dak Crushout that sticks out to you in terms of 55 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: that running back quarterback tandem and that makes them unique 56 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: in terms of a one two punched to cover defensively. 57 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're both really good being with poll 58 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: In there too, he's really good back to Um, so 59 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: whichever back in the game is a problem, press about 60 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: the problem. Um, they're all good and they they're just 61 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: they're hard to deal with. Prescott can obviously run, but 62 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: he he pros a lot more than he runs and 63 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: through for almost four and fifty yards last week. So 64 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: UM does a good job reingcoverages accurate at all three 65 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: levels of the defense, finds the right matchups in the 66 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: passing game. Um, they have a good scheme, they have 67 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: good players. It was a good quarterback, it was a 68 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: good offensive line, so it's all a problem. The backs 69 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: are good. Same thing. They have a good offensive line, 70 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: like blockwell, the backs run well. They're involved in the 71 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: passing game too, so you can't ignore them. In the 72 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: passing game. They can kill you there the world coach. 73 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: They have a good scheme. So you take one thing away, 74 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: they'll they'll kill you with something else. Just that's you know, 75 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: they lead a league in third down conversions. That that 76 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: all comes down to good players, good execution, and a 77 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: good plan. They have all of them. We obviously don't 78 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: say something that much once every four years. Curious, I'm sure, UM, 79 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: But I'm curious if you track at all of your 80 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: scouting department's track to development and progress of Dak since 81 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: he was at Mississippi State, through his early years that 82 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: in the NFL, the Cowboys, and now what kind of 83 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: development he's made is they has been all around? UM, 84 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: multi purpose threat quarterback. Well, you know, we we evaluate players, 85 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: but I mean a player like that's not somebody we'd 86 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: spend in an ordinant amount of time on UM simply 87 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: for the fact that you know, we don't play very 88 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: often and heat not available. So you know, he's in 89 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: a rookie contract. He's going to play through the rookie 90 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: contract and probably a lot longer than that. UM. But 91 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: you know, there's really no it's not a player that 92 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: you can anticipating on the market anytime soon, So you 93 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't you know, you wouldn't spend odd time evaluating him. 94 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: So you know, we track the guys that we play 95 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: or players that we think might become you know, a 96 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: factor potentially in some capacity, and he hasn't fallen either 97 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: one of those categories. So not not you know, only 98 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: on a maybe we do it, but not not the 99 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: same level we would do other players, you know, right, 100 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: I think? All right? Next question Carry Gregan called by 101 00:06:54,200 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: Mike Lee. Good morning Bill. Um. Yeah, their defense uh 102 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: gets to the quarterback quite a bit. Um. I'm just 103 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: wondering do they scheme a lot? Is it just a 104 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: matter of the personnel U with their DeMarcus Lawrence Uh 105 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: getting to the quarterback. What do they do to get 106 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: to the quarterback? Um all they both again, they're they're 107 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: really good at They're good at everything. They have a 108 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: lot of players Uman Lawrence is a great player. Quinn's 109 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: a great player. Um. But they have a lot of guys. 110 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: Um Collins is a problem certainly when they use you know, Smith, 111 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: he's a problem, so use him in their sub rush. 112 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: A lot hider Armstrong, they have you know vander esh 113 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: I mean, those guys you know can all be used 114 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: a little bit differently, especially on third down. But there 115 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: is a very fast and explosive, an athletic group that 116 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: has good pass rush techniques, which Rod is obviously one 117 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: of the best pass rush coaches in the league has been. 118 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: So they get off their pass level, their hand used, 119 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: their pass rush techniques. Games are all done at a 120 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: very high level with very good players and multiple players. 121 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: So there's some scheme issues, but there's just a lot 122 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: of They're hard to block and it's hard to help 123 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: because you just don't have enough guys. There are too many, 124 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: too many good rushers, too many good players. So third 125 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: down is the biggest problem, but really every down is 126 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: a problem, and if you just technique wise, do something 127 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: a little bit wrong, UM, set a little bit wrong 128 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: or just a little bit laid off the ball or 129 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: they get to go jump on the ball, or you're 130 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: in play action path and it just kind of matches 131 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: up that you know they're not going straight ahead, maybe 132 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: they're moving laterally a little bit one way or the 133 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: other because they have a funt called. Then you can 134 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: get in a situation where they catch an edge or 135 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: catch a gap on you, and and they could do 136 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: a lot of damage there too. So it's all the 137 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: players are a problems. Schemes are a problem, and the 138 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: number of different players they use each guys and a 139 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: little bit different to block, but they're all good, So 140 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: it's all a problem. Thanks coach. Well, it looks like 141 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,599 Speaker 1: the last question here will remind rease UM. So just 142 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: two players that are UM I get participating more over 143 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, Um, Nick Folk the kicker. 144 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: I'd be curious just what are your thoughts on what 145 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: you've seen from him the last couple of weeks and 146 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: Benjamin Watson, Um seems like both getting maybe a little 147 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: more comfortable. What have you seen from both of those guys? 148 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: I think you put it well, Mike, Um, you know, 149 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: folks has done a good job for us. He only 150 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: has a few opportunities in the game, like all kickers do, 151 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: but he's he's shown a good level of performance and dependability. 152 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: We've seen that in practice as well, consistency, So that's 153 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's been he's been good there, worked 154 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: well with Jake and Joe and like that operation is 155 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: um improving and we're still say we're there yet, but 156 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: it's improving and it's been productive. So UM. And you know, 157 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: Ben Watson has been kind of the same same thing. 158 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: You know, he's you know, miss him miss several weeks 159 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: of football there, um, a couple of weeks at the 160 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: end of free season and then a couple of weeks 161 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: during the start of the regular few weeks during the 162 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: start of the regular season, so there was there was 163 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: some time there. But he's been to a smart guy, 164 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: works already, has a lot of experience and um, he's 165 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: been able to to be productive for us as well. 166 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: And and you know the higher volume of snaps. So 167 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: we're you know, we're fortunate as the week we have 168 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: those two players and they've done a good job for us. 169 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. You're off like