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Speaker 1: Rarely there when you call it, almost never on time.

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Speaker 1: It's morning Combat, Friday, October tenth, two thousand and twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Let's get ready. Let's get fired up for UFC. HEO

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell in the chair here from the Hartford, Connecticut

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Speaker 1: all of and maybe the only one. Hey, it's Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: How are you.

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty low bar, but it may or may

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It's Friday. Most of our viewers

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Speaker 1: I mean that's where we're at. You know, combat is

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Speaker 2: I don't underto. Here's what I don't understand, Like, what

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four a very good year, not as good

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Speaker 2: Right right right, So there's this like long kind of

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Speaker 1: Next Saturday, I'll be on the call with the Great

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's interesting to me is like what Gamrod

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Speaker 1: And I don't think he will because you know, I

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 8: I also want to ask you. I've seen some people

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 6: I hated Igad Vydak visit Jules Case.

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Speaker 5: I don't listen this the retirement talk comes from you.

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Speaker 5: I never said maybe I'm playing.

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Speaker 6: Maybe I'm fighting bad and like everybody was retire and

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Speaker 6: no moment I thought about it.

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Speaker 2: In no moment I thought I thought I thought about

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Speaker 1: It, Luke. Just to be fair about the stats, we

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Speaker 1: already know, OLIVERA is the greatest finisher and submission artist

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Speaker 1: You gotta believe it's pretty remarkable if he can get

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Speaker 2: Yes, although I mean the reason to me why it

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Speaker 2: even if you do get him out, Like, you're in

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Speaker 2: But the interesting part BC is, you know, well I

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Speaker 1: I mean, ro leads all lightweights in six, landing five

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Speaker 2: Yes, I forgot in conjunction with this, it's kind of

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Speaker 2: your way? Like you just know? BC am I saying

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Speaker 1: Gambrot did bounce back from that split decision lost to

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Speaker 2: I know the signor bigote is what I him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the ladies must be lining up to that man.

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Speaker 9: Oh, bro, Jiujitsu and restling is my background.

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Speaker 5: This is in my head.

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Speaker 9: I feel in my DNA like I can roll with

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Speaker 9: But Bro, this is gonna be all raunther fight. I

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Speaker 9: be no stop action for sure, Bro. Five round no

433
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Speaker 9: stop action. But maybe maybe we don't need it. Fight once,

434
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Speaker 9: you know, to sew epic fight for sure, super excited

435
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 9: and Bro, I go to his hometown, to Brazil, all

436
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 9: Brazil against me. Give me this an edge, Give me

437
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 9: this an edge because I grow up with this. Every boy,

438
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Speaker 9: every booy will be power to me.

439
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Speaker 10: Bro.

440
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Speaker 9: And you know what wrestling is power, Brother, Wrestling is power,

441
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 9: pamp pump pump, control, strength, conditioning, everything.

442
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Speaker 2: I love you, Cannon, he can fight tomorrow.

443
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Speaker 1: Jimmy, Hey, you know will look he wants to smoke

444
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 1: and I don't know if he'sawone. He showed up to

445
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: his public workout in the crowd was yelling something translated

446
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Speaker 1: to the equivalent of he's going to kill you.

447
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, You're gonna die.

448
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: What do you make of his words there? First of all,

449
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Speaker 1: he's been saying at every interview that it will be

450
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Speaker 1: a high paced, high action fight. You could guess that

451
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Speaker 1: to be correct, give him the circumstances and the opponent,

452
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Speaker 1: But do you think he's going to have the success

453
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Speaker 1: on the ground that will not make this need to

454
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Speaker 1: be a five round kickboxing match with the ground games

455
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Speaker 1: canceling out.

456
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Speaker 2: I mean, the thing about Gamrod is he's got incredible scrambling.

457
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Speaker 2: That really is the reason why he was able to

458
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Speaker 2: beat soar Yuki. And like you know, takedowns for takedowns

459
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 2: and set up for setup, and you know the many

460
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Speaker 2: different components that go into a dominant wrestling game, they

461
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Speaker 2: both are basically the same or you know, pretty close.

462
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Speaker 2: But it was that scrambling b see that he was

463
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Speaker 2: just a little bit ahead. But of course that's a

464
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Speaker 2: very different kind of control that's being exerted between Soyuki

465
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Speaker 2: and and Olivera. The question is whether Olivera, you know,

466
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Speaker 2: I really wonder what he's going to do. I really

467
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Speaker 2: wonder what he's gonna do, because I think if he

468
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Speaker 2: tries to get behind Olivera, then you set him up

469
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Speaker 2: for leg entanglements and or potential back takes. And if

470
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: you get chess to chess with him, you have to

471
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Speaker 2: deal with his guard. But that's actually much more manageable

472
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Speaker 2: if he hasn't hurt you yet, you know, so for example,

473
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: Benson Henderson got hit in the body and then took

474
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Speaker 2: down Pettis, and then Pettis armbarred him from guard, but

475
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: he was already like real hurt from a bodykick. Without that,

476
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Speaker 2: I don't really know, you know, I'm just saying it's

477
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Speaker 2: much more manageable from that position. So I think that

478
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Speaker 2: it's how it's it's the question of whether or not

479
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Speaker 2: he can use his wrestling in jiu jitsu and his

480
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Speaker 2: scrambling to maintain control. To me is I'd be surprised

481
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Speaker 2: if he couldn't, to be honest with you, But how

482
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Speaker 2: he chooses to do it and what kind of danger

483
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Speaker 2: he invites is the question. Because BC you've seen it before,

484
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 2: guys will also for example, you know, you'll see you'll

485
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Speaker 2: see him roll for a knee bar, and then they'll

486
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Speaker 2: try and stand. And what does Olivera do. He grabs

487
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Speaker 2: behind the ankle and then goes daily eva reverse daily eva, right,

488
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: and then now he's trying to invert. He's trying to

489
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Speaker 2: go to the back, and he's got these leg entanglements

490
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: that just grow like weeds on or vines, I should say,

491
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Speaker 2: on a fence. If he invites that, you're inviting trouble.

492
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Speaker 2: But if you go chess to chess with him, now

493
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Speaker 2: you have to break that to really put it on him.

494
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Speaker 2: But like you know, as a camping point, I think

495
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Speaker 2: that's a winnable fight.

496
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Speaker 1: I do, well, we're all gonna be camping with him,

497
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Speaker 1: pitching a tent at the excitement in this fight on

498
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Speaker 1: Saturday night, I wanted to quickly bring in our betting

499
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Speaker 1: expert Long Island, Luke no Ceda. If you're getting plus

500
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Speaker 1: money on olivera at home with something to prove, that

501
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Speaker 1: might be a different conversation given that this is a

502
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Speaker 1: pick them? How do you look at this from a

503
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Speaker 1: betting angle?

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Speaker 6: So when this dropped, we mentioned the odds, like a

505
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Speaker 6: week ago it was minus one twenty Oliver EA plus

506
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Speaker 6: one hundred Gamrat. I jumped right on Gamrot at plus money.

507
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Speaker 6: To me, I feel like he should be the favorite here. Yeah,

508
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Speaker 6: it's a pick them right now. I will feel a

509
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Speaker 6: little fomo when and if Charles becomes a dog, because

510
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Speaker 6: I'll feel like, fuck, I should have taken Charles as

511
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Speaker 6: a dog. But I'll take whoever's plus money here. So

512
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Speaker 6: I'm riding with Gamroth.

513
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Speaker 1: Let's go. Yeah. I like momentum Gamrotz got it. He's

514
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Speaker 1: got the right attitude, Luke. When we look at what's

515
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Speaker 1: at steak here, number four is Olivera, a lightweight. Number

516
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Speaker 1: eight is Gamrod. If we're trying to look at where

517
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Speaker 1: the division is going, we know that saryuki In will

518
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Speaker 1: be facing Dan Hooker Hooker, excuse me, coming up Hooker.

519
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: Just god, look, Arman is number two right now, Dan Hooker,

520
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 1: number six. There's rumors that number three Max Holloway could

521
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Speaker 1: be in the running for number seven. Patty Pimblet and

522
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Speaker 1: I think we're starting to come to the conclusion that maybe,

523
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Speaker 1: just maybe mid January, the first UFC on Paramount card

524
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Speaker 1: could be headlined by the champion, Ilio Traporia against number

525
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Speaker 1: five Justin Gaechee. If all of that is true, what

526
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Speaker 1: do you think is a steak here for the winner?

527
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 1: Ultimately in this four versus eight matchup?

528
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 2: Sar yuki In Sarry Kim Gamrock clearly trying to break

529
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Speaker 2: into the top five. He's trying to get into orbit

530
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Speaker 2: for a time shot. I don't think that's in any

531
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Speaker 2: way of some kind of mystery. On the other side,

532
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Speaker 2: for Olivera, I think obviously he would yes mathematically he

533
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: would probably drop out of the top five. But it's

534
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: a little bit more than that, right to get brutally

535
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Speaker 2: finished in the way that he did against Aporia, come

536
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 2: back in an inadvisable timeline, and under this scenario also

537
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: lose to gam Rot. And let's just say something, b See,

538
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: what if Gamrock pounds him out like that is a

539
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: really bad loss? That would be kind of you know,

540
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: I mean truly adding insult to injury. At that point,

541
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: you'd be clearly out of the top five. And I

542
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: think most folks would then say, you know, not incapable

543
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 2: of giving people a tough fight on the right day.

544
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Speaker 2: But that's where you're sort of at like benil dry

545
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: Yusch territory. You know, good fighter, certainly, but and gives

546
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: the tough ones sometimes. I really gave Gamrot, for example,

547
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 2: a really tough fight, but at the same time, you know,

548
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 2: just can't quite get over the hump because he's sort

549
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: of like always floated on that bubble. You'd have descended

550
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: back down to that part of the of the division,

551
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: which he hasn't been a part of in quite some time.

552
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: So this is like holding on to what you've got

553
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 2: in a significant way. Dude, Olavera. He wanted to compete

554
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: in Brazil. He wanted to be here in front of

555
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: his people. I make no judgments about the desire to

556
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: do that, but on the timeline he did it, he

557
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: is just courting significant risk if he gets grinded out

558
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: BC and it's like the star Yuki in fight where

559
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, one guy won, but you know this

560
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: guy is still clearly dangerous. Maybe we have a different conversation.

561
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 2: But if he gets battered here a little bit by

562
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: guy not known to do battering, I think that's a

563
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: massive drop on his stock.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. Before we hear LT's prediction, let's hear

565
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Speaker 1: one more piece of sound from Gamra talking about not

566
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: only what's at stake in this fight, but why he

567
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: is potentially a problematic opponent for Ilia La Leenda to Oporia, I.

568
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Speaker 4: Did mistake a couple of times. When I'm thinking about

569
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Speaker 4: what will be the in the future, the next one.

570
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 4: Right now, my focus is the Charles I passed him.

571
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 4: Then I can think what will be next?

572
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 7: But but is.

573
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Speaker 3: Is in my name?

574
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 4: But it's a huge name in the media and of

575
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 4: course in UFC.

576
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: Give me him.

577
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 4: I say, yes, the one, the same short notice.

578
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 11: Or something like that.

579
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Speaker 3: He's from Europe. I am from Europe.

580
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 4: For sure, there's going to be the biggest bad fight

581
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 4: in the Europe.

582
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: From the lightweight division.

583
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 4: Iah is his great fighter, like he proved that the

584
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 4: best in the in the in the UFC is Fertal lightweight.

585
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 4: But I believe like my style is a very problem

586
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 4: to his matchup.

587
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: So the first is the charge.

588
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 4: But in the future when I can meet him, he's

589
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 4: going to be really entertaining fight because of course.

590
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: He has heavy hands.

591
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 4: It's real dangerous in the feat but I want to

592
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 4: test test him the wrestling in.

593
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: The jiu jitsu.

594
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 4: For sure, I am I will be a big problem

595
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 4: for him.

596
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: Look pre Top thirty divorce, would you agree that, uh,

597
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: this man cam Rock could a problematic style matchup for

598
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: the new lightweight champion.

599
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: I wouldn't rule it out, but I think that this

600
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: is not this is not top of my mind. Yeah, granted,

601
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: it seems like what we're gonna get, as you indicated,

602
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: is Taporia and Gai Chee, And then you would imagine

603
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: so you can if he stays on the winning side

604
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: of things, that that would be the one after that.

605
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: And I guess if we see that, that's going to

606
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: give you a much better answer. The what I'm trying

607
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Speaker 2: to make is I would not rule out the possibility

608
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: that Gamrock could make. You know, Gamrot's gonna be a

609
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: tough matchup for anybody, probably, right. I mean, I know

610
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: Hooker beat him, but you know that was a really

611
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: inspired performance by Hooker to get there. He's a tough fight,

612
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: so I imagine to be a tough fight for a

613
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: lot of guys. I'm just really not ready to crown

614
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: him ready for the really top top guys in the

615
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: division just yet without improving it a little bit more

616
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Speaker 2: along the way.

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Speaker 1: That's fair. But post divorce tritoria, that's a difference.

618
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Speaker 2: Is that is that a real thing?

619
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Speaker 1: That's what the interwebs seemed to create the picture that

620
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: it's true and while it certainly could go either way

621
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Speaker 1: when you have that kind of chaos in your life,

622
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean, do you remember when Shane Moseley, at nearly

623
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: age forty beat the bags off Margarito while he was

624
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 1: in the midst of that divorce trial with his ex

625
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: wife jin who who won the trial so aggressively she

626
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: even got control of his title belts and was like

627
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: go fight that fight you're gonna lose anyway, And he

628
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: went in there and battered that man with the loaded raps.

629
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Speaker 1: We also saw when Merle broke Poetan's heart, he came

630
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: back and knocked a fool out, But that's kind of

631
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: what he does anyway. Does this concern you if this

632
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: emotional breakup causes any change to the to the current

633
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: arc of your favorite fighter.

634
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: I when I and you know when I say it,

635
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: I mean it when I tell you I could not

636
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: possibly give a fuck less. You know I'm saying the truth.

637
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: You know I'm saying the truth.

638
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: All right, Long Island look reminding us that Mackenzie Dern,

639
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: post divorce from Wesley, probably fueled by her need to

640
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: financially support him, had a fantastic victory.

641
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: This is a weird line of conversation.

642
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: But you know, Bruce Springsteen's follow up to Born in

643
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: the USA, The very underrated Tunnel of Love, was completely

644
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: written through divorce, Luke, So it can it can produce

645
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: the best art.

646
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: I We'll tell you. You know what someone told me

647
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: once about divorce, and this was not my dad, who

648
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: probably has quite a lot to say about divorce, is

649
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: that men typically grow beards after divorces. Have you had that?

650
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: Oh? No, ponytails and sports cars. We know the midlife

651
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: crisis that's coming, right.

652
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: It's not about midlife crisis so much, is It's more like,

653
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: you know, you sort of ages you. You know, it

654
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: sort of turns you to the next version of yourself

655
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: in a weird way.

656
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should probably get off this topic because I'm

657
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: sure everybody hates it. But back to the fight itself, Luke,

658
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: who wins Saturday?

659
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: And how I'm gonna pick gam rot and just say

660
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: I hope Charles wins. And I know that's kind of hedging,

661
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: but it's it's I think I bet a lot of

662
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: people feel that way, right, I bet a lot of

663
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: people feel like man, and it's slightly different set of circumstances.

664
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be worried about Charles at all, and maybe

665
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: you still aren't. I'm sure there's gonna be some people

666
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: out there being like, I'm still not worried. Fair enough,

667
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: fair enough, But I'm just saying there's probably also some

668
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: that are like the turnaround and the vulnerability that comes

669
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: with It's not a joke, man, And I know the

670
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: best fighters in the world think I'll be fine. I'll

671
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: make a turn around. Look what happened to Vulcan Islam.

672
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: Even if you thought, wow, Vulkan was entering that fight

673
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: under unenviable circumstances, did anyone be like, Oh, he's gonna

674
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: get smashed in the first round with a head kick

675
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: ko Like, no one even that was beyond what people

676
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: were sort of considering among the known universe of expected outcomes.

677
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's gonna happen here. Gam Rot has

678
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: really shown nothing quite like that in the past. But

679
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: what I am saying is, to BC's point, this is

680
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: Gamrock's chance to break through. This is historically speaking, a

681
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: fight a guy like that should not lose, especially given

682
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 2: like some of the age differences and the mile difference.

683
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: I think as well, I think that Gamrot is a

684
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: serious threat to Charles here, so I'm gonna give it

685
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 2: to him. But at the same time, wouldn't it be

686
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: great if Charles could rally from the worst loss of

687
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: his career. Wouldn't it be great if he could be

688
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 2: received by his people as a winning fighter. I don't

689
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: know who else would be against something like that. So

690
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: Gamrock's probably gonna get his hand raised. But man, it

691
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: would be so great if it's Charles.

692
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from. I think this does

693
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: go the distance. I think we're gonna see enough of

694
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: a slow down from Olivera coming off the ko lost,

695
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: a short turnaround, the compounding of age and mileage, where

696
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: he'll do enough to look good, excite the crowd, and

697
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: make this a fun main event. But I like the

698
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: momentum of Gamrot. I like the gas tank, I like

699
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: the motivation, and even though I don't, I think we'll

700
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: see more on the feet all in the ground. I

701
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: think it'll be the mix of the threat of the

702
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: takedown that really allows Gamra to come ahead. I could

703
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: even see this being a splitter majority. But I think

704
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: Gamrat will win a close, competitive and even fun fight

705
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: here on enemy territory, which will certainly be the best

706
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: win of his career, because I mean, as long as

707
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: it's not heavily disputed in the wrong direction. But breakthrough

708
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: possibilities here for Gamra, and I just like what I've

709
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: seen about him leading up to here. Let's stay on

710
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: this card LT and continue down to that Cole Maine event.

711
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: Are enough people talking about Montel Jackson right now? The

712
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: three to one favorite at bantamweight. Riding a six fight

713
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: win streak, He enters as a minus three to ten

714
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: favorite overall against former multiple time Flyway champion Devison Figuredo,

715
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: who's looking to shake off a two fight losing skit

716
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: against the league competition at bantamweight, and as a plus

717
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: two point fifty underdog. Luke, you gotta love this matchup.

718
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: But the only thing Montel Jackson has missed up to

719
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: this point is sort of a breakthrough win over an

720
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: elite opponent. This would give him that opportunity.

721
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly would. There's a lot of reasons to

722
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 2: be excited about Montel Jackson. Thirty three hasn't quite broken

723
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: through and the timeline that you would want, But to

724
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: the point you make me see, he loses to Brett

725
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 2: Johnson twenty twenty, and he's been off to the races

726
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: since then, beating Demon Black Cheer two fights ago, and

727
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: then Daniel Marcoz, which is a very very good win.

728
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: That's a good fighter. He got that win against, and

729
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: he did it in a very professional way. Also Devison

730
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: the Figoredo, not for nothing, very good fighter, but he

731
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: got his knee shredded obviously against Corey Sanhagen bec first

732
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 2: fight back. He's older. I think he's kind of found

733
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: his limits at bansamweight. Dude, the UFC is clearly saying, hey,

734
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: Montel Jackson, we can tell you might be something. Here's

735
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 2: your first really good chance to prove it against a name,

736
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: an aging name, a declined name, but a name just

737
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: the same. Let's see what you can do. This one

738
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: should be very, very good. I love this fight.

739
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: Montel Jackson thirty three years old, by the way out

740
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: of Milwaukee. This is his moment, that six fight win streak.

741
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: He did knockout Demon Black Cheer in the first round.

742
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: He's fresh off of a three round decision over Daniel

743
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: Marcos and Luke. Do you know about the legend of

744
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: his hand size? Do you know this?

745
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: Who's this Montel Jackson?

746
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: Yes?

747
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: So, doesn't he have the same sized gloves as like

748
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: brock lesnar or something.

749
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: Dude, this is a throwback picture to Montel Jackson. I

750
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: keep wanting to say Montel Jordan, by the way, but

751
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: this is how he does. I mean Luke once upon

752
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: a time and not so. Look at that's Francis and

753
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: Ganu's hand right there. That's the predator. That's the one

754
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: of the largest scariest men we've ever met in this sport.

755
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: That's a bantam weight going tip to tip, finger to

756
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: finger with him.

757
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: That's insane.

758
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: What do you think that suggests? What is he backing? Luke?

759
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean? A punch? Probably

760
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: a punch, right.

761
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: BC. Do you want to fondle his genitals?

762
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you very much. I am interested in you

763
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: because you are an undercart assassin in Montel Jackson is

764
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: trying to become really a main inventor. He How good

765
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: is this man in your eyes?

766
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: I think he's pretty good.

767
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 6: I think your analysis the spot on that they're like

768
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 6: giving him Figgy to kind of give him a name

769
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 6: propel him up. I do feel like he's had a

770
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 6: few big names fall through, so someone could check that

771
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 6: for me. But like, I feel like he's been booked

772
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 6: against some names and kind of gotten screwed over there.

773
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 5: But he should win this.

774
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, geez.

775
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 6: I did dabble on Figy with the plus seven and

776
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 6: a half, meaning one judge has to give him one round,

777
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 6: and because I think this goes all three rounds, I

778
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 6: think that Montel or Figgy could cover the spread.

779
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 2: Let's go, yeah, so you to your point. He was

780
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: supposed to have a fight against Chris Gutierrez in twenty

781
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: twenty three canceled, soa he'd never got made off. In

782
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four canceled, far D Bascharat twenty twenty four canceled,

783
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 2: so then he had that, but then after that he

784
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: gets the black cheer in the Marcos fight. So excuse

785
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 2: me longer on Luke right on the money.

786
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, as always with that, so big opportunity for Montell

787
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: to break through and a similar theme but a different circumstance.

788
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: In this welterweight fight. The veteran was Luke is a

789
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: plus four hundred underdog against the former lightweight Joel Alvarez

790
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: now Alvarez of Spain. His seven to one over his

791
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: last eight, with the only loss to Armant Sarukian. But

792
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: he's had weight issues along the way multiple times. He's

793
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: had some disastrous weight cuts. This is him moving up

794
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: to welterweight. Luke, do you feel like this is a

795
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: full time move here because he's coming in as a

796
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: minus five thirty five favorite against us an established welterweight

797
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: in Luke.

798
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think his body's changing and it's

799
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: a good thing. I think he ran into a couple

800
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: of brick walls at one fifty five, but clearly he's exciting.

801
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 2: He's one of Spain's more interesting, you know products. I'm

802
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: very curious to see how he looks here at one

803
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: seventy for his debut.

804
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's riding a streak of three straight wins, all

805
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: by stoppage, a knockout of Jaikar close by flying knee,

806
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: the TKO from knees and punches against Elvis Brenner, and

807
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: then he Bravo choked Mark Chacase before that did get

808
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: stopped by Saryuki and in a fun fight there. But

809
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: big moment and big opportunity for this guy who talked

810
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: a lot this week about how hard that weightcut was

811
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: for him, even assumes this weight cut will be difficult

812
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: as well. At one seventy. I mean, he's always been

813
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: a big dude, an action guy. But at thirty two

814
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: here maybe not too dissimilar to Jackson, although Jackson seems

815
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: closer to the to the top here at Bandam Wait.

816
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: Big opportunity for for Alvarez at Welterway LT. When you

817
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: look up and down this card, I don't know if

818
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: it's sizzles, but there's certainly some offerings here worth tasting.

819
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: What else is jumping out at you?

820
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: It's a good question. Let me see if I could

821
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: pick one here. I'll say Chafelle Felio against Clayton Carpenter.

822
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 2: He's got a little bit of juice to it for

823
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: me that that one's gonna be on. I think that's

824
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 2: the last prelims, or maybe it's the second to last.

825
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how they put it in card or.

826
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 2: I think some people might say BC, the Vitor Petrino

827
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 2: and Thomas Peterson fight because it's heavyweight, might have a

828
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: little bit of fun to him. I'm not really part

829
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: of that. The one prospect that I would say is

830
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 2: really worth watching Beatri's Mosquita. Multiple times BJJ world champion

831
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 2: and actually a good one with a great game. She's

832
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 2: undefeated five and zero, taken on Arena Alexiva. That should

833
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 2: be a very good fight, or at least Misquita BC

834
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 2: is where her career is worth following. And you're asking, like, oh,

835
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: you know, I know people are kind of down on

836
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: BJJ prospects, and I understand that. I don't know how

837
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: far Mosquito will go BC. But what I would say

838
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: is based on what I've seen from her game and

839
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: just obviously from jiu jitsu as well. But you know

840
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 2: what she did in in LFA and early MMA, there's

841
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 2: reason to believe she could be quite interesting. Obviously, there's

842
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: a fight at one hundred and thirty five pounds Long Island. Luke,

843
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: where are you the Lucas Hoocha fight? What do you think?

844
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 6: No, but I just want to say it's worth noting

845
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 6: we open the card and end the card with an

846
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 6: Olive era Simon Oliver in the first fight, Charles Oliver

847
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 6: in the last fight. Simon Oliver too, the only fighter

848
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 6: on this card to missweight, missweight by eight pounds. Oh,

849
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 6: that will hopefully stay on the card and just be

850
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 6: a Catchwaight. At this point got to give a shout

851
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 6: out to my two Aussies on the card. Con Offley,

852
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 6: who is winless in the UFC coming off the tough

853
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 6: but you know, maybe he can beat to Karlohamos here.

854
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 6: I'm not giving him much of a chance. And Stuart

855
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 6: Nickel against Lucas Hocha is a pickham one.

856
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: Also, also we see Caroly nikobl Keevich on this card

857
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: at one time game.

858
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: From the one of the last remaining from that twenty

859
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: fourteen Ultimate Fighter Straweight season. She's thirty nine riding a

860
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: two fight losing skid. But don't forget she she had

861
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: that like five fight resurgence before that. So shout out

862
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: to the former title challenger gave put you on on

863
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: the hospital at MSG. People forget that and a trust

864
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: laws there also be it a rising Rosanami Unis at

865
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: UFC two on one, probably the best win of her career.

866
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: It is sad to see our heroes come to the end. Luke,

867
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: by the way, Luk is only thirty three. He has

868
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: lost three of his last five. He's been stopped in

869
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: all three by some decent names. Odds wise, they're writing

870
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: him off into the sunset here.

871
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: It feels like no, h yeah, And they gave him

872
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: a guy who's a bruiser. I mean, he's a bruiser

873
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 2: at fifty five. Let's see what that looks like at seventy.

874
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: But he fights balls out. You know, he's an attacker.

875
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: That's what that's what he does. That's who he is,

876
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: that's his fighting identity. Yeah, b see they I mean

877
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: Luk is not that old. But they might be trying

878
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,479
Speaker 2: to cash him out. I'm not I'm not so sure.

879
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Carolina to close there is fighting Julia plastri

880
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: at strawwaight uh.

881
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: Interesting.

882
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of Olivera's are we long from

883
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 1: one of Cowboy Olivera's kids to make his MMA debut.

884
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: That guy's got a lot of kids.

885
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 2: Right, how many kids? Oh? You're right, like the Antonio

886
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: Crimarti of MN.

887
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: Yes, that guy.

888
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if he has ten or not, but

889
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: he might have something. Guy's got his regular own Brady bunch.

890
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: He's just fill in the streets, if you know what

891
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: I mean.

892
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, just my man, Like whenever you see him

893
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: a punch in another man, he's actually in his mind

894
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: punching condoms. He hates him, he just can't stand him.

895
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: All right. Yeah, hey, yeah, I don't know how to

896
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: transition out of that, but I'll try.

897
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: Imagine if ye had he won a fight and they

898
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 2: were like, what went through your mind in the finish,

899
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: she was like, I just don't like condoms, and I

900
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: just saw I just saw him as one big old

901
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: trojan and I was like.

902
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: Wow, that's the cowboy we need right there. That guy Hey, everybody,

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915
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Speaker 1: all right, let let's go. How about that Colemane too. Hey, look,

916
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: this year might end with a bang, at least pay

917
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: per view wise, right, what are we thinking for December?

918
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: What do you think they're gonna do December sixth? Because

919
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 1: there's reports that it could be O Sean O'Malley versus

920
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 1: Songy Dong and the Colemane, which is a good fight,

921
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: but I don't know if that's the Colemane, but like,

922
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: what do you think the December main event is.

923
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: Well, who's available? Oh, could be Morob that's true.

924
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 1: That's that's that's true. And now pyotor Yana is saying

925
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: that he was physically compromised in their first fight.

926
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that happens a lot.

927
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 1: Big Gong had a broken rib. It seems against Poeton.

928
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 2: I mean everyone, people, people don't care. I'm not even

929
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: saying that they should. I'm just saying it's kind of

930
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: funny that It's like, I mean, I get that there

931
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 2: are there are always gonna be meaningful differences in case

932
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: to case, but it's just kind of funny. It's like,

933
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: oh wow, man. Like one of the lessons I learned

934
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: was Poton was telling the truth when he said, you know,

935
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: he was injured coming into that fight, and no, granted

936
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: he said it lay and you know it was, it

937
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 2: wasn't quite as immediate. And I think then also changes

938
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: things again, there's always going to be a set of

939
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: circumstances that affect it. But then Big Uncle loses and

940
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, I had a broken rib and it's like, no,

941
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: you didn't, you fucking sour grapes kill joy. You know,

942
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: it's like didn't we just see that, Like guys a

943
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 2: do this all the time, and then be Poton proved

944
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: there's a big difference, like and these things are real

945
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: and that they do affect you. It's just kind of

946
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: funny who gets who's the recipient of injury grace and

947
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: who isn't. And you know, again it's a broad set

948
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: of circumstances that affect it.

949
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: But it's just kind of funny to what I mean,

950
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: everyone's injured, but you signed a fight, you show up

951
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: to fight agreed.

952
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 2: No, No, I mean I don't have sympathy for Uncle

953
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: Lfe because A, to your point you agreed, and then

954
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: B I'm not sure would have made a difference. You know,

955
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: it just seemed like Poton had a great idea about

956
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 2: how to pursue that fight.

957
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know angrily yeaheah. By the way, reminder

958
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,719
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959
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964
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna get Jed MSU number two for the second

965
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Speaker 1: straight time. LT. Your thoughts, Yeah, you.

966
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: Know, we got to see that dirt bag one more

967
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: time and I can't wait to see him show up

968
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: to our studios and then get served for you know,

969
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: I don't know SA well, Jesus, I don't know about that,

970
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: but served for something something along.

971
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he'll sue himself inevitably, eventually. We are contractually obligated.

972
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: It seems to put Connor McGregor in our rundown every

973
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: week he's back. You do this, You do this Topic

974
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: number two. Connor McGregor accepted in a retroactive eighteen month

975
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 1: doping suspension for repeated testing failures the Combat Sports Anti

976
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: Doping season. If you will. The UFC's new in house

977
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: testing program suspended Connor dating back to multiple times where

978
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: he was unavailable about his whereabouts for testing in twenty

979
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: twenty four. How convenient is it, however, that the retroactive

980
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: expense suspension will expire just in time for Connor to

981
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: make his fighting return this June. On Donald Trump's birthday

982
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: Sunday the fourteenth at the UFC White House event, Luke,

983
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: is it too convenient in your eyes? How do you

984
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: sort of look at this breaking news of some sorts

985
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: this week?

986
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: Let me let me, let me, let me let me

987
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: pull Long Island Luke on this one if I'm may,

988
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: because this is really how I kind of see the

989
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: whole thing Long Island, Luke, what's up? Do you give

990
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: a fuck?

991
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 7: No?

992
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: Okay, there we go.

993
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: Is this the song and dance of the new Usada?

994
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: Is this like what we're doing? Like it's it?

995
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 2: I mean, here, here, here's the thing. Then listen, this

996
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 2: is what you have to understand about this scenario. Right

997
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: by the way, BC, did you see that PFL cut

998
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: ties with Usada? Did you see that?

999
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: I did not see that. Wow.

1000
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they cut ties with Usada. So like Usada is

1001
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: on their way out the sport. I want to point out,

1002
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: years and years after I declared all the things that

1003
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 2: were going to happen, in fact did happen. Sure enough,

1004
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: now they're gone. BC. If I have a curse in

1005
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 2: my life, it's sometimes I'm wrong, and you know, terribly.

1006
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 2: So like when I said Devin Haney was going to

1007
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: tune rine up like a guitar that you know, we

1008
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: have bad moments, but when I'm right. One of my

1009
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 2: other problems is that I'm right too early, and that

1010
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 2: was one of those cases. But let me just make

1011
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 2: this point. There is a benefit to what the UFC's

1012
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: new system offers relative to what USADA offered. Namely, the

1013
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: system is much more humane relative to you Sada. Right,

1014
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 2: the punishments are not as onerous, the declarations publicly of

1015
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 2: who has tested without really having the chance for that

1016
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: athlete to defend themselves. That doesn't happen anymore, right, And

1017
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 2: there's just a series of ways they've they don't have

1018
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 2: like strict liability in the same kind of way that

1019
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: they do with USADA. Like there's just a lot of

1020
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: humanity and athlete care relative to the way you SADA did.

1021
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: It baked into this new system, and when they launched it,

1022
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 2: you know, they were trying to solve for some of

1023
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: those problems, Like it just it created a lot of

1024
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 2: friction with media, created a lot of friction with their

1025
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: own roster of athletes. Like it just created was a problem.

1026
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: They they didn't want it anymore, to say nothing of

1027
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: like the fact that Yousada just seized themselves as vice

1028
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 2: cops and they wanted the UFC to help them get there,

1029
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: and so they no longer had faith in them Organizationally,

1030
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to make is that's what it's better

1031
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 2: for relative to the way that it was with Yousada. However,

1032
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: it is also an in house system. You know, why

1033
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: would a system be in house at a for the promoter?

1034
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 2: And you might be like, well, you know, doesn't NFL

1035
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: have their own house. Yes, but that's what something they negotiate.

1036
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 2: I mean, there's independent agencies they do for testing and whatnot,

1037
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: but it's something that they negotiate with the athletes, Like

1038
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 2: all of the protocols are put in place with their

1039
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 2: safety and their privacy rights in mind, and the punishments

1040
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 2: are negotiated down for all these other reasons, like it's

1041
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: a there's a handshake that goes on here. You don't

1042
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: have that. And even without that, again, it's still more

1043
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 2: humane than Yousata system. But any system that the UFC, dude, like,

1044
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: what about what anyone understands about the Ultimate Fighting Championship

1045
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: and the way they do business is divorced from the

1046
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 2: idea of having maximum control. It's just every it's every

1047
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: it's part of their organizational DNA. They want to have

1048
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 2: maximum control over the media, they want to have maximum

1049
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 2: control over their roster, maximum control over there the market.

1050
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: And again some of that works and some of that doesn't.

1051
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: But that's that's what they're all. That's their orientation. And

1052
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 2: so people like, oh, wow, isn't it convenient that like

1053
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 2: Connor's available, Guys, it's an in house system? Like what

1054
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: what did any buddy expect it to be? I mean,

1055
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not telling people they don't have a

1056
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: right to feel that that's not a great system. But

1057
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: when they announced this system and they announced it as

1058
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: being in house, these kinds of things at a bare minimum,

1059
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 2: I cannot declare to you, oh this was done underhanded BC.

1060
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: That's really not my point, but you lose the presumption of, oh, well,

1061
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: this is ordinary business because it is in house, and

1062
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: those things are worth some level of interrogation. It's just,

1063
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: you know, do we really think the UFC is going

1064
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: to keep a system of athlete control and like you know,

1065
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: public image maintenance in house? And it really undercut their

1066
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 2: ability to do business. That seems unlikely to me Yeah.

1067
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: The CSID press release was quoted the say McGregor miss

1068
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: three attempted biological sample collections within the twelve month period

1069
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, which constitutes a violation of the

1070
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: UFC's anti doping policy. Athletes are required to provide accurate

1071
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: whereabouts information at all times so they can be contracted

1072
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: and submit to biological sample collections without prior warning. McGregor's

1073
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: mistest occurred on June thirteenth, September nineteenth, and September twentieth,

1074
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: and we're each classified as whereabouts failures. By Sea said

1075
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: under the new UFC anti doping policy, Luke that June

1076
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: thirteenth one seems to align with the lead in to

1077
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: that International Fight Week main event later that month that

1078
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: he was scheduled in his return against Michael Chandler. The

1079
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: broken toe got him out of it. Do you think

1080
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: it was a broken toe or do you think it

1081
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: was three hundred and seventy five consecutive days of going

1082
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: ham at night? You know what I'm saying. After he

1083
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: definitely was dirty during the roadhouse filming. Let's be honest

1084
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: about that.

1085
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean again, remember he had a

1086
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: traumatic injury and I thought that day up, he'll probably

1087
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: never fight again, and I mean, if he does, god

1088
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: only knows what condition he's going to be in. I

1089
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 2: didn't care that he used medicinally, assuming that's what it was,

1090
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: that there was some kind of what do you want

1091
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 2: to call it, monitored pharmaceutical process, I don't really have

1092
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 2: an issue with it. He wasn't competing at that time. Yeah,

1093
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: of course you need to tell me what your whereabouts are,

1094
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 2: but he didn't fight during that time. I mean, of

1095
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 2: all the things to be bitter about, Connor McGregor, I

1096
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 2: just feel like this is probably for me, quite close

1097
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 2: to the bottom of the list. It's amazing that like

1098
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 2: this kind of thing gets a lot of attention, like

1099
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: some of his other stuff doesn't. But whatever, we don't

1100
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 2: have to have that conversation. I'm just pointing out. I'm

1101
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 2: just pointing out, you know, yes, if you compete in

1102
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: a system like this, do they need to have your whereabouts?

1103
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: Yes?

1104
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 2: H did he fail to do that? Apparently? Should he

1105
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 2: be punished for it? Obviously, But we should also know

1106
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: that the reason why he may have done that stuff,

1107
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 2: at least initially to the extent that he did again,

1108
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 2: we're speculating there could have been a very good reason

1109
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: for it. And then, more to the point, this is

1110
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: an in house anti doping system. I just think people

1111
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 2: need to manage their expectations about that.

1112
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Connor did talk this past weekend while promoting BKFC

1113
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: that when he does go into camp soon for this

1114
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: White House return, which probably comes against Michael Chandler, I

1115
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: guess could be an ideas in a trilogy, although some

1116
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: seem that's unlikely. He got Charles olivera this week saying

1117
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: he'd like to be that opponent. Heck, could it be

1118
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: Max Holloway. We'll have to wait and see. But here's

1119
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: what Gregor're talking about, how he's about to enter that

1120
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: spartan lifestyle, maybe even put the partying behind him for

1121
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: a bit.

1122
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 10: Oh, I have eight months and change out to the

1123
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 10: White House event. It's a six month operation, you know.

1124
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 10: I consider it a six month operation to get ready

1125
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 10: for this about period of isolation for sure, where the

1126
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 10: phone will not be answered. All my people involved with

1127
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 10: me understand that it is coming. And as I said,

1128
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 10: it's a six month operation.

1129
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 3: I'm under no illusion of what.

1130
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 5: What lies ahead of me.

1131
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 10: In my preparation efforts, the phone will be switched off

1132
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 10: and the work will be executed. That's my focus right now,

1133
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 10: and just eager to climb the steps into being ready

1134
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 10: for my return. There's a lot at stake, and I'm

1135
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 10: very excited at the opportunity. I was right there with

1136
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 10: my last one. I was an incredible condition. Just a

1137
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 10: slight lapse in concentration led to an injury. I wish

1138
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 10: to correct that and show what I'm about.

1139
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: So, Luke, no phone, Let's see if he so. No

1140
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: posting either, No phone, no posting. He's just gonna do

1141
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: that woke as he says. Luke, Look, I mean hate

1142
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: him if you will, and you know he gives you

1143
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,959
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons to His return on the South

1144
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: Lawn will be interesting to see. Will it be a

1145
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: complete train wreck or just partial Luke, That's that's sort

1146
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: of the pull. Or maybe maybe he majestically pulls out

1147
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: one of those performances that we used to claim. He's

1148
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: got one left in him, right.

1149
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 2: He definitely needs some good pr say that.

1150
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, very good fighter in his prime. Probably not a

1151
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 1: great boyfriend, but you know, we can't judge him all here.

1152
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: Let's go to topic number three, and that was from

1153
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: Tuesdays Dana White Contender series. Thank you very much, We're

1154
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: a bantamweight war not only entered the fight of the

1155
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: year discussion, it's causing some other discussions as well.

1156
00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 7: Now.

1157
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: It's certainly not every week that he DWCS bout will

1158
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: have people declaring it a possible fight of the year,

1159
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 1: let alone the greatest fight of all time, as UFC's

1160
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: YouTube channel did. But Ecuador's Audriann Luna Martinetti his three

1161
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: round decision win over an absurdly determined Russia's Mark Vologden

1162
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: in their bandamweight fight on Tuesday netted both of them

1163
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: UFC contracts. Immediately after the bout, as they were being

1164
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: sent to the hospital, Dana White also gave each of

1165
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: them twenty five thousand dollars bonuses, which is not a

1166
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: normal occurrence. Both were, as I mentioned, hospitalized there, Luke.

1167
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: Some were even comparing this to Griffin Bonner one or

1168
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: because of the cuts in the bleeding Lawler McDonald two

1169
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: now show one more Time along Island, Luke. That UFC

1170
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: post on YouTube that calls it the greatest fight of

1171
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: all time. I don't are they saying Dana what greatest

1172
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: Dana White Contender Series fight or greatest fight Luke Thomas,

1173
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: how good was this slugfest?

1174
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not the greatest fight of all time, it's

1175
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: definitely not that. However, I will say something about it

1176
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: that I think is maybe not as far away from

1177
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: that as you might imagine. First of all, easily the

1178
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: best fight in Contender Series history period. I mean, that's

1179
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: such a I mean, I haven't seen every single one

1180
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: of them, but I've seen a lot of them, and

1181
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 2: the people who have seen every single one of them

1182
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 2: also think that this is the best fight in Contender

1183
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: Series history. I just can't imagine what else it would be.

1184
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: So on top of that, BC round two. Round two

1185
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 2: is easily easily easily the best round in Contender Series history.

1186
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: So first of all, let's just be clear about that

1187
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 2: best fight in Contender Series history, best round in Contender

1188
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: Series history. And what I'm also going to say is, BC,

1189
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 2: you have to throw in vollog Dean at least onto

1190
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: the list of the best fighters to lose on the

1191
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 2: Contender Series, because dude, did he not look real polished,

1192
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 2: especially in round one.

1193
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: Dude, the variety of his striking, even while under duress

1194
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: was insane.

1195
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe how good it looked.

1196
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: You could hear him breathing through everything the right way,

1197
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: and his footwork was clean. I was like, Yo, this

1198
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 2: guy is okay.

1199
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: He had one of those gouges on his chin, but

1200
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: the cutover his eye had different caverns and canyons in Yes,

1201
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: it was like when you go to ki.

1202
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 2: It looked like he got hit with like a rubber

1203
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 2: bullet and it the tore flesh out and then the

1204
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 2: flesh tour in different directions as a consequence. But let

1205
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,479
Speaker 2: me say this, BC, and this is where I maybe

1206
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 2: it gets controversial, but I don't. I don't know. I

1207
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 2: don't know how controversial this is. You've seen the fight obviously.

1208
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I watched it this morning and I was

1209
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: loving it.

1210
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 2: Okay, dude, Round two is one of the better rounds

1211
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 2: I've ever seen ever. Ever, I'll get the fight is

1212
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 2: not the best fight because the problem is round three

1213
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 2: they were I mean, they were still trying their ass off,

1214
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: but it wasn't like, you know, it's a good round.

1215
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 2: It wasn't an amazing round. Round one was like a

1216
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 2: very good round. Round two is just one of the

1217
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 2: best rounds you'll ever see in mixed martial arts period. Now,

1218
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: Long Island, Luke, where are you on this? The round

1219
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 2: two and then the fight More broadly.

1220
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 6: It's definitely not the greatest fight of all time. It

1221
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 6: is one thousand percent the greatest Dana White Contender Series

1222
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 6: fight of all time. Gaff and I were doing a

1223
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 6: watch along for Live. Shout out to Gaff on one

1224
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 6: more round fights. He literally thirty seconds into this fight

1225
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 6: said both these guys are getting a contract, and I said,

1226
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 6: you're out of your mind. I said, one of these

1227
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 6: guys could get flat lined in two minutes and they're

1228
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 6: not getting a fucking contract.

1229
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 2: Dude nailed it. He called that literally right in the

1230
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 2: beginning of okay, round two one of the best rounds

1231
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 2: you've ever seen anywhere.

1232
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,479
Speaker 1: It was, I mean, dude, especially not to stop coming

1233
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: back on each other in the round two. It was insanity.

1234
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 6: Just I will say round three slowed down a bit,

1235
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 6: but if you still just isolated that round, you'd be like.

1236
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 2: Oh, that was a great round. Yes, it's because rounds

1237
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 2: one and two were so chaotic that it it. I

1238
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: can't believe volag Dean withstood that barrage of knees in

1239
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 2: the clench. I could not fucking and then to push

1240
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 2: Martinetti back at the end of round two battered physically bad?

1241
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 2: Was I dude? It it takes your breath away, like

1242
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 2: it's that kind of thing. So like they're exaggerating how

1243
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 2: good the fight overall is, but they're not exaggerating how

1244
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: special parts of it actually.

1245
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the first two rounds, as you mentioned,

1246
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: round two just being otherworldly. Long Island Lucer Mountie as

1247
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: the volig Dean was a minus one to eighty betting favorite,

1248
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: Martinetti was one plus one thirty. It would go down

1249
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: as the unanimous decision twenty nine to twenty eight on

1250
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: all three scorecards, two rounds to one for Martinetti, who

1251
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: showed just as much resolve but wasn't under the same

1252
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: level of damage. I think we got a couple of

1253
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: pictures on this tweet here of the face of Martinetti

1254
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: there I'm sorry, a volag dean there on the top right.

1255
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean that I don't even know how they let

1256
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: him kept fighting with the crevice over his eye. I mean,

1257
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: that is beyond permanent scarring. But here's what's crazy. Martinetti

1258
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: deserved the decision. He got the better of him for

1259
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: the most part, you know, volume wise, and was certainly

1260
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: nasty with those lead elbows. But dude, the heart and

1261
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: resolve that Vologdin showed in defeat was almost the most

1262
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: special part of the whole fight. Like, I know, fights

1263
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: like this will take a certain chunk out of your

1264
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: lifespan and future in the cage. But am I crazy

1265
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 1: to say that I'm almost more interested in Vologdine's journey

1266
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: after this loss than I am his partner, who was

1267
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: just as you know, just as responsible for this fight

1268
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: being a classic.

1269
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 2: No, I'm with you. I mean, my heart kind of

1270
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: broke for Vologdin. I'm like, I don't know if I've

1271
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 2: seen I mean, the problem was, you know, obviously round

1272
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 2: two got away from him, and then you know, parts

1273
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 2: of well parts of all three rounds got away from

1274
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 2: the two of them. But there was just enough happening,

1275
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 2: I think obviously in this in the second round as well,

1276
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 2: where he was he was in a lot of trouble. Well,

1277
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 2: first round, no, no, first rounding was like he dropped

1278
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 2: Martinetti twice, right, so he won that one was the

1279
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: second and the third one that he lost, But dude,

1280
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: Like I said, Man, I mean you could throw Kevin

1281
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 2: Vichejos on this list as well, like guys who lost

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01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 2: on the Contender series. Is because I just was watching

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Speaker 2: him and I'm like, this guy has everything you would

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Speaker 2: want from a prospect. He has everything. Look how clean

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Speaker 2: is strucking is. Look how well rounded he is, Look

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Speaker 2: how resilient he is. I mean his defense maybe needs

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Speaker 2: some work obviously, BC not a perfect fighter, far from it.

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Speaker 2: But the reality here's how I feel. I feel like

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Speaker 2: bullet Dean is a more talented fighter. I just felt

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Speaker 2: like Martinetti had you know, you're gonna laugh at the description,

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Speaker 2: but he had the eye of the tiger man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he just would not be the length and the

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Speaker 1: height to that he used, you know, to his advantage

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Speaker 1: even though they were fighting in a phone booth. It

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Speaker 1: was that just that much of that advantage was a

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Speaker 1: big part of that. But I know they don't normally

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Speaker 1: give bonuses, so Dana giving each twenty five K is

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Speaker 1: a special moment. But if this fight is getting the

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Speaker 1: love in house and also on social media that it deserves,

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Speaker 1: and it does deserve it, I mean, Luke, like, these

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Speaker 1: guys are probably going to be remembered here no matter

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Speaker 1: what they do for the rest of their career. From

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Speaker 1: the moment. This is one of those break the bake

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Speaker 1: moments where I wish TK was like, oh, f twenty

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Speaker 1: five k, like here's here's you know, five hundred k each,

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Speaker 1: because they both fought like there was tomorrow, no tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: and and this is you know, I know that, like

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Speaker 1: this is an incubator where Dana wants to reward the

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Speaker 1: hungry and wants these type of fights. But you're you know,

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Speaker 1: it's rare that you can get these type of fights

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Speaker 1: because both guys have to be so insanely determined. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not crazy. This is a They should

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Speaker 1: be walking out of there with a half million each

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Speaker 1: after that effort. There's insane, just insane, dude.

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Speaker 2: Those two guys would have fought to the death if

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Speaker 2: you let them. Yes, yes, they would have fought to

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Speaker 2: the death.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to a here's Martinetti and exiting the cage.

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Speaker 1: Here's a fan video. You can see just how wobbly

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Speaker 1: he was in victory all thirteen people and that's the

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Speaker 1: guy that won. I know, crazy. And then we got

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Speaker 1: a little busheto backstage. You know, I love moments like this.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen in on these two embracing you.

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Speaker 3: You're very strong, bro.

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Speaker 5: I love you, I love you you, I like you.

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Speaker 5: I love you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you the next, the next, the next fighting yeah

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Speaker 3: you you you say you say thank you for the

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Speaker 3: great great fight. Take coach, Thank you, thank you, coach.

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Speaker 1: Great great moment right there, Long Island. Look when you

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Speaker 1: were you were saying, you were on Gaffs live stream

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Speaker 1: during this. Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were doing a Contender series watching.

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Speaker 1: You guys losing your mind in round two just I mean,

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Speaker 1: just going for it.

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Speaker 6: It was sick and again because Gaff called it in

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Speaker 6: round one. My mind was blowing that. I was like,

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Speaker 6: how did you know this was going to go the

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01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 6: distance and it would be war?

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Speaker 2: And they both get a contract? But yeah, dude, great.

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Speaker 1: I gotta give Loris Cenko and Anthony Smith, who were

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01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: the analyst, credit because both of them had their own

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Speaker 1: sort of moments similar to al Bernstein after round one

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Speaker 1: of corrals Castillo one on Showtime where he's just like,

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Speaker 1: if this keeps up at the pace we're at, this

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Speaker 1: could be one of the greatest fights we've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: They felt that also. Man, I'd love to have live

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Speaker 1: stream this fight. I mean I would have gone full

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Speaker 1: Pa we Away Luke Thomas style. That would have been Wow, wow,

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Speaker 1: what a moment. All right, there you go, Hey everybody,

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Speaker 1: Are we back this week? Luke? Are we back in

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Speaker 1: a big way?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? We should be. That Jayden Daniels is back after well,

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Speaker 2: after injury. He looked pretty good, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, I mean look when you're looking at the La

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Speaker 1: Rams at the Baltimore Ravens, and I'm telling you, Matthew

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Speaker 1: Stafford two hundred and fifty eight and a half yards,

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Speaker 1: are you going more or less against that Ravens?

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Speaker 2: D ooh, I'm going to go more. I think Matthew

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Speaker 2: Stafford and the team might carve him up. You know,

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Speaker 2: Ravens are looking a little more beatable this year than

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Speaker 2: I thought they would be to be brought. To be

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Speaker 2: honest with you, the Chiefs also look terrible. I can't

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Speaker 2: believe how bad they look.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well they got to bounce back in a big

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Speaker 1: way with Patrick Mahomes, who has a more or less

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Speaker 1: probably going more on the bounce back there, Luke. Although

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are learning about Travis Kelcey's pipe,

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Speaker 1: apparently from this new Taylor Swift album, are you keeping

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Speaker 1: I mean we should probably get into that offline. My

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Speaker 1: I was just talking about the new Taylor Swift album.

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Speaker 1: There's some controversial lyrics I hear, I hear things.

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Speaker 2: All right, you think I don't understand. I mean, okay,

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Speaker 2: But what is the charm of Taylor Swift's music if

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Speaker 2: that sincerely.

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Speaker 1: Well, now, the thirteen year old girls are going to

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Speaker 1: learn something about life from the new album, is what

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Speaker 1: I hear.

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Speaker 2: Oh she's talking about getting dicked down?

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all right, Hey, let's keep the show rolling

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Speaker 1: and hit you right between the eyes with topic number four.

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Speaker 1: One of the biggest stars in boxing, the Mexican Monster himself,

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Speaker 1: David Benavidez, has been in the news as he continues

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Speaker 1: to make the media rounds ahead of November's return on

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Speaker 1: the Ring Champion or Ring magazine card Excuse Me against

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Speaker 1: Anthony Yard in a series of interviews with everyone from

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Speaker 1: all the Smoke Fights ring champs to Fight heb TV.

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Speaker 1: Benavida shared a number of interesting updates, including he's done

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Speaker 1: at one sixty eight, even if for Budd or Canelo,

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01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 1: he will move up to cruiserweights sooner than later, and

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Speaker 1: he plans to retire in fifteen years as a heavyweight.

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01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 1: He also teased the possibility of leaving PBC and Sampson

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Speaker 1: Promotion shortly to start his own promotional company, Luke, considering

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01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: we haven't yet seen him at his new division of

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01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 1: one seventy five against the two all timers b wall

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01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: Better Viev, how confident are you, given Benavidez's handspeed in

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01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:54,520
Speaker 1: boxing ability, that he can have the same success potentially

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01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: here at cruiserweight and heavyweight as his career continues.

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01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit more skeptical of that maybe. So

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01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 2: he's had two fights at light heavyweight, correct, BC, He's

1446
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 2: had the Vosdik fight and then the Morel fight. If

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01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 2: there's a common denominator between them, as first of all,

1448
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 2: he won both, so he's still undefeated. He's just twenty

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01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 2: eight years old. BC. We forget that at twenty eight

1450
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 2: he's still like just now entering his athletic prime in

1451
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: certain ways. So I want to like preface this by saying,

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01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 2: to a degree we should be very excited about what

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01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,719
Speaker 2: he can do and not limit him. At the same time,

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01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 2: all we have is the evidence that he has given

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01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 2: to us to evaluate. Maybe someone else's reading of the

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01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 2: evidence tells them something else, but mine tells me, at

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01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 2: least for now, some caution about how far he can scale.

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01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 2: This is warranted because he was better than Vosdik, He

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01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: was better than Morel. The Morrell grut was a grudge match.

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Speaker 2: The Morel one BC was more impressive to me than

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Speaker 2: the Vosdik one, in part because of the quality of

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Speaker 2: opposition and the nature of the fight. Here's the point

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to make, though. At sixty eight and down,

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Speaker 2: it felt like, yeah, he didn't have one punch power,

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01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 2: but he could get you out of there if he

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Speaker 2: needed to. Caleb Plant, I know, survived, but I mean

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Speaker 2: it was really quite difficult. And then Demetrius Andreide, I

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01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: mean he fell apart quickly after what round five or six,

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Speaker 2: whatever it was that didn't happen at seventy five. They

1470
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 2: were much sturdier. So here's what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 2: On the one hand, BC, he won both. He's just

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Speaker 2: twenty eight years old. I do believe there's room for optimism.

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Speaker 2: But when you're saying things like yeah, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: go to cruiserweight and then you end at heavyweight, I

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Speaker 2: think I don't know why it's unfair to have a

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Speaker 2: question to be able to say what has he shown

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Speaker 2: to this point that makes you believe that those are

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Speaker 2: very likely places he could end up doing great work.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that would be. Maybe you have

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Speaker 2: a different read.

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Speaker 1: I mean I would say physical size, meaning height and build.

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01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 1: I would say definitely, that handspeed, definitely, the fact that

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01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 1: he does have a pure boxing ability now he's able

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01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: to it's mixed that at sixty eight and seventy five

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Speaker 1: with a pressure predator style behind his high guard. But

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Speaker 1: what do we always praise him for his ability defensively

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01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: to be offensive the whole time without welcoming back a

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01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 1: ton of offense. I don't know. And he's hungry too,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the whole key of this segment is that

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Speaker 1: he doesn't want to cut down anymore for the big names.

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Speaker 1: In fact, let's listen to that sound first, here's Marcos

1492
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: Vegas a Fight Hub TV talking to Benavidez talking about

1493
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:32,799
Speaker 1: that tweet from Turkey who said, right after Crawford be Canelo,

1494
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 1: can Benavidez still make one sixty eight?

1495
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 2: Could you still make one sixty eight?

1496
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 3: Is that possibility?

1497
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 5: See?

1498
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 3: Bro?

1499
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 11: My plan is after this fight, I want to go

1500
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 11: down in one fifty four. No, Ro, Honestly, I'm done

1501
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 11: with Cruiserly, you know what, I want to take this

1502
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 11: opportunity though yes, I say cruively, I want to take

1503
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 11: this opportunity to you know, congratulate Crawford. You know, he

1504
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 11: put a hell of her performance. He's up there in

1505
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 11: the Mount rushmore of the greatest fighters of all time.

1506
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 11: And you know, let Crawford do his thing.

1507
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 7: Bro.

1508
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:03,560
Speaker 11: You know, at the end the day, I have no

1509
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 11: interest in fighting Crawford. I have no interest in going

1510
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 11: down to one sixty eight. I mean, yeah, it's nice

1511
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 11: that it would be dope winning all titles, but I'm

1512
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 11: way past that on one sixty eight. You know, I

1513
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 11: found on any reason I wouldn't even go down to

1514
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 11: one sixty eight for Canelo. And I'm just being real

1515
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 11: with you, you know, And let Crawford do his thing.

1516
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 11: Let him have is you know, do you know, let

1517
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 11: him I want to give his flowers.

1518
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 5: Man, because he's a great fighter.

1519
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 4: Man.

1520
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 11: When there's no other fighters coming up from one forty

1521
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 11: seven to beat a type of fighter like Canelo at

1522
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 11: one sixty eight, you know, when Crawford, you know, he's

1523
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 11: one of the greatest of all times. So you know,

1524
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 11: I have no interest in going down to one sixty eight.

1525
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,560
Speaker 11: I'm not saying I'm scared of Crawford or whatever, you know,

1526
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 11: but Crawford is a man on one sixty eight.

1527
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 2: That's his white class.

1528
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 5: I'm done with one sixty eight.

1529
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: So look, I kind of like his stance here. I've

1530
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,560
Speaker 1: always liked his stance of like, I've done everything I

1531
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 1: could to get Canelo and he doesn't want it. So

1532
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit around and wait and and you know,

1533
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 1: not only stop his own development in terms of sitting

1534
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 1: around and wait, you know, not taking other big fights.

1535
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: What did he do?

1536
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 1: He went to seventy five, fought a former champion of

1537
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 1: Vosdik fault Morel now has a title that he has

1538
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 1: been upgraded with and is looking for big fights. I

1539
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: like it mostly because he realizes he'll just compromise himself

1540
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: physically by cutting back down. You know, you could see

1541
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: a guy like him go no, I want the money

1542
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 1: and fame against Crawford. I'll do whatever it takes physically,

1543
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 1: but there's going to be a diminished version of him

1544
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. I actually like that

1545
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 1: he's more willing to challenge himself north, whether that's Bevo

1546
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 1: and better briev in this division or this talk about

1547
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:36,560
Speaker 1: cruiserweight and heavyweight. Here is Benavidez talking exactly that with

1548
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: Aken Brock about the fact that he believes he's got

1549
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 1: fifteen of fighting years left in him.

1550
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 5: I got another fifteen years left him.

1551
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 2: Years old fighting.

1552
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 11: I fight two times a year. I'm I'm able to

1553
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 11: make this money, take care of my investments, and why

1554
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 11: would I not want to do that for the next

1555
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 11: fifteen years?

1556
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

1557
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 11: If I take care of my body, well, bro two

1558
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 11: fights a year ain't shit, you know what I mean.

1559
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 11: And you have enough time to recover, You have enough

1560
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 11: time for yourself, you have enough time for your family,

1561
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 11: and you have enough time to train hard. This is

1562
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 11: something I love to do, man, Like I said, like,

1563
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 11: all I have to do is not you know not

1564
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 11: fucking drink or do all that dumb shit and just

1565
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 11: stay focused.

1566
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,560
Speaker 5: And man, this is honestly, the more focused.

1567
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 11: I am, the harder I work, the better I feel

1568
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 11: out for, more connected with God, and like, I just

1569
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 11: feel like I have so much fight left to me.

1570
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 11: And that's what I'm saying. You know, forty forty, another

1571
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 11: fifteen years to forty three is really not that, you know,

1572
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 11: it's not that old. I mean, you see pack y'all.

1573
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 11: You just fought Mario Barrios. Was he forty seven? Yeah,

1574
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 11: I see these other great fighters, and it's not impossible.

1575
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 11: It could be done, you know what I mean. So

1576
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 11: if I program myself, if I condition myself now to

1577
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 11: think like this until I get there, you know, my

1578
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 11: mindset is that you don't want to box another fifteen years.

1579
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 5: So you know, we're doing everything right on this side

1580
01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 5: to make sure we accomplish that and fulfill that.

1581
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 11: I feel like it's gonna be easier too, because the

1582
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 11: older I get, you know, obviously, the more weight I'm

1583
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 11: gonna put on, the higher I'm gonna go up. I

1584
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,919
Speaker 11: want to be at you know, as a light heavyweight

1585
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 11: for maybe for another five years, then cruise a weight

1586
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 11: another five years and then maybe we.

1587
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: Shout out to the ring champs there Ick and brock Luke.

1588
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: I like this because he's not gonna leave this division

1589
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 1: before he gets a chance at Bevall or better Beev.

1590
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: But he's thinking smartly. You don't have to worry about

1591
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 1: the weight if he goes up to heavyweight. Like I mentioned,

1592
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: a lot of that speed in boxing advantage. He's durable,

1593
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: he's hungry. Do you have any idea how marketable this

1594
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 1: guy could be as the potential first Mexican heavyweight champion?

1595
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 1: I mean, Andrew Ruiz is Mexican American like him. I

1596
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 1: don't want to discount when Andy UIs did and win

1597
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 1: that one fight, but like, if he has a chance

1598
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: to become the undisputed heavyweight champion, this guy could be

1599
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 1: the biggest start in the sport.

1600
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then coming up from those many weight classes.

1601
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 2: And we've said this before, he's been one of these

1602
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 2: guys like you know, if you're an MMA, you may

1603
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 2: not really feel you appreciate this, but he's kind of

1604
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 2: slowly cultivating a bit of a cult following is a

1605
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,719
Speaker 2: bit of a strong word, BC, but a genuine following

1606
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 2: for sure. He's more popular than you might imagine, and

1607
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 2: I do think again, there should be a lot of

1608
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 2: reasons for his optimism. He's got big goals and I

1609
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 2: kind of feel for him that that Canelo victory should

1610
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 2: have been his. BC Canello denied it to him, and

1611
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 2: so he had You can see why he's like, I

1612
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 2: can't even maybe he even could make sixty eight. But

1613
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 2: it's not really about that. He's just trying to chart

1614
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 2: a path disconnected from that. Then nobody can take away

1615
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 2: from him, and I understand it. It's just it's a

1616
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 2: difficult one and curious to see what he does.

1617
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I won't play the third video, but he

1618
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,799
Speaker 1: basically says he signed for the Anthony Yard fight before

1619
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 1: realizing that Better Beev would be on that same card

1620
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: as him. But look, this really feels like a setup

1621
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: for those two to fight next year. You've got Bevall

1622
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 1: coming back from an injury. I mean, what is your

1623
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 1: confidence level just right now that Better Beef could be

1624
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: either Bevall or better I'm sorry that Benavetez can beat

1625
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: either Bevall or Better Beev in maybe a year from

1626
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 1: now be the on disputed light heavyweight champion.

1627
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 2: I I want to see him do it. Yeah, you

1628
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 2: know what I mean, I'm not even one of the

1629
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 2: I'm not even these guys like he can't do it.

1630
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. I'm just saying there's enough questions there.

1631
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, those fights are amazing. Those are amazing fights.

1632
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 2: Like if they book those, you'd be like, whoo hell, yes,

1633
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I need to see him

1634
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 2: do it. I need to see him do it. I

1635
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 2: have enough questions, I think, is what I mean. I

1636
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 2: have enough questions at seventy five where I'm like, let's see,

1637
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 2: let's see what it looks like first, you know, kick

1638
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 2: the tires, take a test drive on that Mitsubishi before

1639
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 2: you plunk down fifteen K whatever it is anymore.

1640
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:46,600
Speaker 1: That those will be wild fights him against both of

1641
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: those guys, they will be incredible wild fights. Bevall will

1642
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 1: test his I mean, they'll both test everything from his

1643
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: hardest chin to his his uh, his skills. Let's not

1644
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: forget those. Bev all better be a fights. We're just

1645
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 1: technical thrillers. Luke tts baby, and who doesn't like a

1646
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 1: set of tts like we got in those first two

1647
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: fights against each other?

1648
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, might start eating some that.

1649
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, fully if I ever saw one. All right, let's

1650
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 1: hit topic number five. Hey, I didn't think we'd be

1651
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,560
Speaker 1: talking about this. This debate came out of nowhere on

1652
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 1: boxing Twitter. But the International Boxing Hall of Fame ballots

1653
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 1: are out for twenty twenty six. Those that are members

1654
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: of the BWAA are voting at this time, and suddenly

1655
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 1: we're in debate over one Ganadi Ganadavaevich Glovekin sorry brutalized

1656
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:40,599
Speaker 1: his middle name, the retired forty three year old former

1657
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 1: two time unified middleweight champion, and what started off as

1658
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 1: a few left field comments that felt like from Ryan

1659
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: Garcia during the Inside the Ring show turned into a

1660
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: multi day boxing Twitter debate that I'm shocked we even

1661
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: went this far with.

1662
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 4: Now.

1663
01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 1: The critics are Cidey Chippleg's lack of victories over for

1664
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,719
Speaker 1: pound rank fighters or Hall of Fame fighters during his career,

1665
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 1: despite the fact that he was openly ducked by all

1666
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 1: of his contemporary champions and Hall of famers like Sergio

1667
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 1: Martinez and Miguel Cota, and forced to wait out two

1668
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: years before finally facing Canelo at age thirty five and

1669
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: then suffering two very disputed outcomes. I know that second

1670
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 1: fight was very close. Still, there remains a loud minority

1671
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 1: of boxing critics on social media who believe that Triple

1672
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 1: G is somehow not worthy of a spot in the

1673
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Now, the votes for the balloting will

1674
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:36,719
Speaker 1: be released in December, and Triple G headlines what's considered

1675
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 1: a weak ballot for twenty twenty six, including fellow first

1676
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 1: timers the late Vernon Forest and Stevie Collins. Luke, We've

1677
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 1: talked a little bit about this offline from what you

1678
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: know of Triple G's run. Is there any element of

1679
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 1: this argument in your eyes that holds up to the

1680
01:21:55,800 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 1: idea that somehow, maybe Triple G, despite retiring after that

1681
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 1: Canelo trilogy with a record of forty two to two

1682
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 1: and one with thirty seven KOs and tied for the

1683
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 1: middleweight record with Bernard Hopkins with twenty career title defenses,

1684
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:12,719
Speaker 1: isn't hof worthy?

1685
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,839
Speaker 2: Can we can we start this conversation where it starts

1686
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 2: before we can get to any of this, which is,

1687
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 2: who gives a flying fuck what Ryan Garcia thinks about anything?

1688
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I mean this genuinely, like Ryan

1689
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 2: Garcia has spent the lot I know he's in a

1690
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 2: better place now. Good. He's got a long way to go.

1691
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 2: But he's spent the last couple of years trying to

1692
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 2: do and say the most horrific shit he possibly could.

1693
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 2: He has not made amends for it. I mean, I

1694
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 2: know he's tried a couple of half assed attempts, but

1695
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 2: they are pathetic and more to the point, even without that,

1696
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 2: since when has he ever said anything that anyone ever

1697
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:56,480
Speaker 2: found intelligent? Ever? Like? What what what about Ryan Garcia's

1698
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 2: boxing history, knowledge or knowledge of the Hall of Fame?

1699
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,599
Speaker 2: Has he ever flexed in such a way that merits

1700
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 2: this kind of response. It's bizarre to me. Like he's

1701
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 2: not an interesting or otherwise intelligent person. He has He's

1702
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 2: a disturbed person. So like the fact that him getting

1703
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 2: on this show and then saying this has spurred this

1704
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 2: kind of conversation, to me is wild. All right, putting

1705
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,919
Speaker 2: that aside, I mean, I realize that's the genesis of everything.

1706
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 2: Let's say, at least can.

1707
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 1: We start here, Luke, Then let's start here and listen

1708
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,799
Speaker 1: to it, because when Ryan Garcia did list this started

1709
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 1: at the shotgun was fired. In fact, I didn't think

1710
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: we need to bring in Quervo because this was legitimately

1711
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 1: some shots fired, Shots fired brought to you by Cuervo.

1712
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 1: Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila.

1713
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: Here is the Inside the Ring show hosted by Max

1714
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: Kellerman and Mike Coppinger with Ryan Garcia as the special guest.

1715
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 7: Talking about this, well one Tribaji had no really great victories.

1716
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:58,560
Speaker 9: I mean, what do you be?

1717
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people think he won the

1718
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 2: first fight, was a great fighter, but he didn't. Nobody didn't.

1719
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 1: You know.

1720
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 7: The thing what I will give him, though, is he's

1721
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 7: he was one of the superstars in boxing at a

1722
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 7: certain time for for a long time. I will give

1723
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 7: him that. But for me, I think it's just a

1724
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 7: little hard for me to put somebody in the hall

1725
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 7: of fame. Like to say hall of fame, I means

1726
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 7: like dang, Like what.

1727
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 2: About telling the story of the era?

1728
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,679
Speaker 8: You could not tell the story of an era without

1729
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:26,560
Speaker 8: including triple G.

1730
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 5: What about that?

1731
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 2: Do you do you subscribe to that hall of fame theory?

1732
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 6: I do?

1733
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 2: I do.

1734
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 7: I mean, I do see that. But we're talking about

1735
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 7: hall of fame. We're not talking about eras you know.

1736
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 7: I'm talking about like overall all of boxing, you know,

1737
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 7: I mean, I just don't see him as a Hall

1738
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 7: of Fame. Yeah, I can't give him that nod.

1739
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 2: But hey, that's a legitimate point.

1740
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 11: Was around back then when he was writing because autist

1741
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 11: dunt wuldn't have happen me.

1742
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: Find out, So Luke, it wasn't just Ryan Garcia. By

1743
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 1: the way, this started an avalanche of people coming out

1744
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 1: and just being like, I agree with him, this guy's

1745
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 1: overrated from from from the merit standpoint, Is there an

1746
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 1: argument against triple G in your eyes?

1747
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I like how what Ryan says is in

1748
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 2: no way an argument for anything. Because what he never does,

1749
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 2: and what I'm going to ask you to do, BC,

1750
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 2: is he keeps saying things like these are criteria that matter,

1751
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 2: without ever establishing what is the baseline of achievement? What

1752
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 2: are the markers the significant markers of achievement that we

1753
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:26,560
Speaker 2: have to evaluate in order to judge someone's worthiness or

1754
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 2: otherwise eligibility for these considerations. He never does that. He

1755
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 2: just says things like, well he didn't beat anyone great, okay, Well,

1756
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 2: to what extent does he need to? To what extent

1757
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 2: does that matter? To what extent is that even true.

1758
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 2: He doesn't tell you. So BC, let's actually start the

1759
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 2: conversation in this particular case where it starts, what are

1760
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 2: the relevant benchmarks for consideration that we can now take

1761
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:51,879
Speaker 2: Triple G's resume and measure that against these particular standards

1762
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 2: of excellence to see whether or not he makes the cut.

1763
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, two thousand and four Olympic silver medalists

1764
01:25:57,920 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 1: from Kazakhstan.

1765
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 2: No, no, no category. From categorization standpoint, what are we

1766
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 2: looking for.

1767
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:09,679
Speaker 1: We're looking for essentially a mixed criteria of your impact

1768
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 1: on the sport. And we can't overlook that because it

1769
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 1: is hall of fame. Arturo Gatti, who was a at

1770
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 1: one point a world title fighter, got in to some controversy,

1771
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 1: but you have to recognize the fact that he was

1772
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 1: such an attraction and he fought in such a certain way.

1773
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: Triple G captured that. In my opinion, he was a

1774
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 1: singular star who had a Jordan brand sponsorship. You want

1775
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,879
Speaker 1: to be able to accumulate a certain level of titles.

1776
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 1: Even though Triple G operated ninety eight percent of his

1777
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 1: career at middleweight, He's tied for the all time title

1778
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 1: defense record with Bernard Hopkins of twenty He had a

1779
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 1: twenty three fight KO streak in his prime, he twice

1780
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 1: was a unified champion. Can you hold it against him

1781
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: that he was never on disputed champion possibly? Can you

1782
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: hold it against him that he never was interested in

1783
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: moving up until that third Canelo fight? Could you even

1784
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 1: hold hold it ag against him that some have accused

1785
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 1: him of ducking andre Ward during the brief period where

1786
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 1: Ward was at sixty eight, Glofkin was at sixty and

1787
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:08,560
Speaker 1: there was talk. I mean, yeah, I even think you

1788
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 1: could do that, but I think to some degree it

1789
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 1: has to be your performance level. Look, Luke, I argued

1790
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 1: against even though Sergio Martinez, the great middleway champion from

1791
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:21,600
Speaker 1: Argentina was ultimately was in the Hall of Fame, and

1792
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 1: I argue, and even though he's one of my favorite fighters,

1793
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 1: I argued against him because I felt his window of

1794
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: being on top from a pound for pound standpoint and

1795
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: a championship standpoint was so small that we have to

1796
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,719
Speaker 1: have some line that separates who's a Hall of Famer

1797
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 1: and who's not. Tripleg's window was not small. He was

1798
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:45,719
Speaker 1: absolutely dominant. He checks off so many of the boxes,

1799
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 1: from the eye test to the numbers from the title

1800
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 1: defenses and all of that. But part of this criteria

1801
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 1: I do acknowledge is who did you beat. I think

1802
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 1: it was unfortunate for him that the best fighters in

1803
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 1: his division, Martinez and Codo, dodged the shit out of him.

1804
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 1: Canelo made him wait two years, unnecessarily till he was

1805
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: thirty five. He got robbed of his biggest win against

1806
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 1: Canelo in that first fight, which almost no one believes

1807
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 1: should have gone the other way except for Robert Bird's

1808
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 1: wife Adelaide. If that's the only thing he's missing, and

1809
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 1: he is missing that, I mean, when you're talking about

1810
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:26,719
Speaker 1: his best wins, you're gonna talk about Danny Jacobs, Daniel

1811
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: Gil Darren Barker, Sergei Derevinchenko. I mean, we were not

1812
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 1: talking about a run of Hall of famers here necessarily.

1813
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's as easy to just go, oh,

1814
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 1: he's some like great white hope that the media got,

1815
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, was all about, and not look back on

1816
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: what we actually saw an absolute destroyer that is very peak,

1817
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 1: saw almost no peer in the division's history. I mean,

1818
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: at the peak of Triple G we were literally having

1819
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 1: conversations of what would a fight with him and Marvin

1820
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 1: Hagler look like, I don't know if you can. I mean,

1821
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 1: everyone's resume is going have a hole somewhere in how

1822
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: you're looking at this criteria. I don't think this hole

1823
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 1: in his inability to get the biggest names. Oh, you

1824
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 1: got to throw in kell Brook, by the way, who

1825
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 1: was undefeated when Triple G stopped him. Kelbrooke moved up

1826
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 1: two weight classes, of course, but that was probably one

1827
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:16,679
Speaker 1: of the best victories as well of his career.

1828
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 2: I don't broke his face.

1829
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it's enough in this case to

1830
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 1: keep him out of it, like the younger generation seems

1831
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 1: to be trying to do right now, you know.

1832
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 2: So that was a good explanation, Right, here's what we're

1833
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 2: measuring against, and here's how his resume lines up with it. BC,

1834
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:35,640
Speaker 2: I did a little digging, like, what are some of

1835
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 2: the other middleweights that have made it into the Hall

1836
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 2: of Fame. So you'd have Bernard Hopkins, you'd have Hagler,

1837
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 2: you'd have Carlos monz On, you'd have a couple of

1838
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 2: names or a few names like that. And in certain

1839
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 2: ways he doesn't quite I mean, he certainly doesn't have

1840
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 2: Hagler's career. Not many people do, and even b Hop

1841
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 2: had wins over elite other pound for pound guys. That

1842
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 2: is true. However, BC, to your point a more than

1843
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 2: twenty fight win streak title defenses, I think twenty of them. Yeah,

1844
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 2: I think twenty of them were title defenses right around that,

1845
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 2: multi different different multi title unifications during the course of

1846
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 2: his career. Ducked like a motherfucker. And they're right, you

1847
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 2: can't count the first fight against Canelo for him, but

1848
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 2: anyone with eyes would probably tell you that that fight

1849
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 2: is one that if it had been any other, like

1850
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 2: if Canelo is not a star. I just don't see

1851
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 2: how TRIPLEG lost that fight. I mean, this is a

1852
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 2: guy with that Partly, BC, he achieved less than other people,

1853
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 2: that is true, who made it into the Hall of

1854
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 2: Fame in certain ways. Anyway, in other ways, he clearly

1855
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,679
Speaker 2: achieved just as much as them. But this is also

1856
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 2: a guy who did not have the luck of the

1857
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:53,640
Speaker 2: boxing machinery at his disposal. He kind of had the

1858
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 2: unluckiness of it, and that affects how your resume looks

1859
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,679
Speaker 2: when it's all said and done. And I do think

1860
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 2: on some level BC that has to go into the grating.

1861
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 2: By the way, most people who vote on this, unlike

1862
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia, think that Triple G is an obvious case.

1863
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, let's show quickly that. By the way, I

1864
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 1: scored both Canelo fights for Triple G. And I know

1865
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,599
Speaker 1: you can't just give him that because your eyes thought

1866
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 1: you saw it. But imagine what his resume would be

1867
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 1: with those two wins. Now you're packaging two Canelo win.

1868
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 2: Totally different conversation, Brook Jacobs.

1869
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 1: Here, first is a snapshot at the tail end of

1870
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 1: Triple G's run, which does not include the Matthew Macklin

1871
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 1: knockout before that Rubio fight. But I'm gonna acknowledge it's

1872
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 1: not as impressive as someone with his talent should be.

1873
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:41,959
Speaker 1: And then you count in the controversy of those Alvarez

1874
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 1: fights right there, and the fact that he was just

1875
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 1: trying to stay active and fight whoever was available. But

1876
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 1: here's Kevin I only sounding off on Twitter against the

1877
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 1: loud vocal minorities, saying, if you don't believe that Triple

1878
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 1: G is a Hall of Famer, you're an imbecile of

1879
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 1: the highest order and not worth debating because you clearly

1880
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 1: have no clue, hash tag first ballot, hashtag let's bring

1881
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 1: a Dan Rayfield. Of course, who was there for every

1882
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 1: step of Triple G's jerney saying more on alert, Triple

1883
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 1: G fought everybody who dare step in the ring with

1884
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 1: him for a decade. He was pound for pound number

1885
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 1: one to some. He was rob versus Canelo in the

1886
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 1: first fight, had twenty three straight knockouts in his prime,

1887
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 1: one of the highest ko percentages of middleweight history, and

1888
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 1: scored twenty consecutive title defenses, which is insane. Unified three belts,

1889
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 1: what a rock star. Olympic silver medal. Yeah, much ado

1890
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 1: about nothing.

1891
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 2: I gotta put up to Dan Rayfael gets spicy on Twitter.

1892
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 2: It's kind of funny to.

1893
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 1: Lot, especially post ESPN. Dan Rayfully just gets after it.

1894
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 1: Here's my boy Matt Brown from Brunchbox and I love

1895
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 1: this guy. But this went too far, Luke, Come on.

1896
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 1: He put out a meme that basically said, if you

1897
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,600
Speaker 1: think Triple G should be a Hall of Famer, that

1898
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 1: you're working on the the white cop shift there with

1899
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 1: Mannix Scott.

1900
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:57,759
Speaker 2: So you got Coppinger, You've got Pug Meyer, Mannix Iolei,

1901
01:32:57,960 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 2: and Rafael all In a row there.

1902
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 1: Right, Come on, Matt Brown, come on, man, I like

1903
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 1: him too.

1904
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 2: I like him too, But I don't really get this.

1905
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:09,560
Speaker 2: I don't I understand being like, Okay, he doesn't have,

1906
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 2: you know, the resume of be Hop. Okay, he doesn't,

1907
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 2: but you don't have to have the resume of Bee

1908
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 2: Hop to get into the Hall of Fame. Like, that's

1909
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 2: not the point I mean it is.

1910
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 1: It does go against him that he stayed in one

1911
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 1: division for the totality of his career to some degree,

1912
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 1: But then again, so did Hagler, so did Hopkins until

1913
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 1: that late run in his forties, you know, I mean yeah,

1914
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 1: I mean, look, when he was on top, he was

1915
01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 1: an absolute superstar catchphrases on the drama show Headline five

1916
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 1: pay per views, had sponsorships with Hublo and Shives, Regal

1917
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 1: and Jordan Brand, Like, you know, was a legitimate star. Damn.

1918
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 1: I didn't think we'd get this type of hate this early.

1919
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 1: It's always like, you know, ten fifteen years later, when

1920
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 1: people are like, well, yeah, that guy wasn't that good.

1921
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 1: Look at his box wreck, dude, this is what this is?

1922
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 2: How, you know, like Ryan's total casual When it comes

1923
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,600
Speaker 2: to understanding this stuff because, and I keep trying to

1924
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 2: explain this to people, you will think that the biggest

1925
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 2: stars of your era, Oh, these will be the names

1926
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 2: that carry the test of time. And then it's over

1927
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 2: and then they're like, dude, GSP was overrated, John Jones

1928
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 2: wasn't shit, Mitris Johnson suck, Anderson Silva wouldn't be that good,

1929
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 2: you know. And they're gonna do it for Vulk, They're

1930
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 2: gonna do it for poetson the next generations after. They're

1931
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 2: gonna do it for Vulk, They're gonna do it for Poton,

1932
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 2: They're gonna do it to Ilia, They're gonna do it

1933
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 2: to everybody. It's the mark of someone who can't appreciate

1934
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 2: what someone meant at a moment in time and what

1935
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:32,679
Speaker 2: those contributions actually looked like. It's like, it's like literally

1936
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:33,719
Speaker 2: the mark of ignorance.

1937
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 1: Uh quick story on the way out. I once I

1938
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:40,599
Speaker 1: was at the Mohegan Sun when Triple G fought Matthew

1939
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:43,639
Speaker 1: Macklin on HBO to defend his Middleway title, and those

1940
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 1: of us who are ringside, it was like me, Karen Mulvaney,

1941
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,720
Speaker 1: Steve Kim, We'll never forget the sound of Triple G

1942
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 1: scoring a body shot Ko in the second round that

1943
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:53,680
Speaker 1: sounded like a gun went off right in front of us,

1944
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:56,720
Speaker 1: and Macklin was broken. After that, I ran into Jim

1945
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 1: Lampley in the food court and he's with his family

1946
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 1: and there's a crowd people. I'd never spoken to him before,

1947
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 1: and he's like, Brian, Brian, come over here, and he did,

1948
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 1: you know, to give him credit, he was like, love

1949
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 1: your work, great to meet you, and all I cut

1950
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,720
Speaker 1: through the you know, the friendliness, and I was like,

1951
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 1: Jim is Triple G for real? Like for real, like

1952
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 1: all time, for real? Can we believe what we're seeing?

1953
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 1: And he kind of gave a non answer, but was like,

1954
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical. I think so, but we got to wait

1955
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 1: and see. And after Triple G famously knocked out Curtis

1956
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 1: Stevens at Madison Square Garden Theater. And I'm not trying

1957
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,720
Speaker 1: to say that the Stevens fight was marquee enough to

1958
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 1: be a turning point, but after that fight, everyone from

1959
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 1: boxing Twitter went down to Times Square and went into

1960
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy's corner to the famous boxing bar, and it was

1961
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 1: this cold, ridiculously cold evening and as I walked into

1962
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 1: this tiny sliver of a bar. Lampley's crossing paths to

1963
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 1: me and your chest to chess with everybody. And he's

1964
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:54,599
Speaker 1: got the coat on and the scarf and the hat,

1965
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 1: and I go, Jim, Jim, he is for real. And

1966
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 1: Jim put whispers in my ear. He goes, he has

1967
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:05,680
Speaker 1: the finest craft of any destroyer that I have ever

1968
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 1: seen in the history of this sport. You're goddamn right,

1969
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 1: he's for real. And he walked right out and slammed

1970
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 1: the door in my face as like a gust of

1971
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 1: wind came in and his scarf flew around the side

1972
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 1: of his neck and he walked off into the night.

1973
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 1: That was a moment, Luke, all right, Yeah.

1974
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 2: But then we also interviewed him, you know, and he

1975
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 2: was like, these two guys when they're fighting, they're falling

1976
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 2: in love and like they're not Jim, Yeah they're not.

1977
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 1: They want to bang Jim.

1978
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 2: All right. I think these two men are in a

1979
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 2: romantic affair, like they're not.

1980
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not happening right there, But shout out to

1981
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 1: boxing there we go. All right, those are your five

1982
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:44,599
Speaker 1: topics for the damn week. But a reminder to y'all

1983
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:47,720
Speaker 1: you want to reach the show. Why don't you hit

1984
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 1: us up at Morning Combat at gmail dot com. Tell

1985
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 1: Mikey that you said, hi, show him a piece of yourself.

1986
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 1: Really more like a fan sub than like, hey, you

1987
01:36:56,640 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 1: know one of the wow right, But those will be

1988
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 1: your opportunities to get your stuff hurt on Friday. It

1989
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 1: is Friday. So look, we sit in front of a microphone.

1990
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes we say shit, that's just factually incorrect, insensitive, or

1991
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,599
Speaker 1: just Plaine dead wrong.

1992
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 2: Then wrong.

1993
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 1: I think I deserve this one. Look, this one comes

1994
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 1: from Greg, he says, gentlemen, this here is a dead wrong. However,

1995
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:30,719
Speaker 1: this is an anomaly because it didn't come from you directly,

1996
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 1: but by proxy you did report it. This is about

1997
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:39,559
Speaker 1: the post that BC shared from at Velutama regarding Alex

1998
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:42,839
Speaker 1: Padeda's wind streak, all the wind streaks that he snapped.

1999
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:45,679
Speaker 1: I also understand all three of you made comments regarding

2000
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:49,479
Speaker 1: some minor mistakes. These mistakes weren't all that minor. In fact,

2001
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 1: they were actually very dead wrong. Oh boy, I deserve this,

2002
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:57,120
Speaker 1: he says. The post claim that he snaps Strickland wind streak,

2003
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,799
Speaker 1: it was actually only six. Where did they get eighteen?

2004
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:03,639
Speaker 1: The post claim that he stabbed snapped Izzy's twenty three

2005
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 1: fight win streak. He never had a twenty three fight

2006
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 1: win streak. He had a twenty fight win streak that

2007
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 1: Yan Blahovich snapped. They also claimed Uncliah's fourteen fight win streak,

2008
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 1: but it was actually thirteen fights unbeaten. There was a

2009
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 1: draw in there in a no contest, which aren't wins.

2010
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 1: Again per snickery as always, but that's how we MK

2011
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 1: fans do know who disrespect to a lax. He's a

2012
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:29,800
Speaker 1: legend and has done epic things. But these stats are

2013
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:34,719
Speaker 1: definitely incorrect mostly, but your mileage may vary. Hashtag drive

2014
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 1: fast all gas. Hashtag how many chigs.

2015
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:41,679
Speaker 2: Do you see?

2016
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:43,600
Speaker 1: They gave away another truck? Luke, did you see that?

2017
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:46,639
Speaker 2: I can't say that. I'm paying close attention.

2018
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 1: All right, I'll take that l for that graphic.

2019
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 2: What ya you put that on the show?

2020
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:54,720
Speaker 1: I do, Luke. We're about to get mahallowed by a

2021
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:55,800
Speaker 1: gentleman named Daz.

2022
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 2: Back up on that ass and give these motherfuckers a

2023
01:38:59,080 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 2: blast from the past.

2024
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 1: Daz says, Aloha, I hope he bare knuckle fights televihim.

2025
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 1: By the way, Big Papa keep popa. That'd be Great

2026
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 1: during Have you seen this shit? On September twenty ninth,

2027
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 1: after watching Kyle Long down a beer, BC asks if

2028
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:16,760
Speaker 1: Howie Long's sun was Kyle or Chris Long. BC it

2029
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:20,040
Speaker 1: was both. Kyle played o line while Chris Long played

2030
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 1: defensive end. Both made the NFL always appreciate the content.

2031
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 1: Thanks for all the UFC three twenty fight week coverage.

2032
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 1: I'll take that out. I was unaware. All right, there

2033
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 1: you go. That's it. I'm over for two. Hey, let's

2034
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:35,720
Speaker 1: go to number three. This comes from Liam, which is

2035
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 1: Luke's favorite boy name in this modern era. H do

2036
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 1: you think he's white, Luke?

2037
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 2: Well, not merely that, but he's probably British.

2038
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:48,559
Speaker 1: Okay or Irish, possibly Southern Irish. Yeah, there you go, hello,

2039
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 1: Liam says. At twenty nine ten of yesterday's show Long Island,

2040
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:54,759
Speaker 1: Luke said Dominic Rays hasn't fought a top thirteen ranked opponent,

2041
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 1: with Krelav being ranked thirteenth at the time of the

2042
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 1: Ko lost to Reyis Well, mister dead, Luke, that statement

2043
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 1: is what I call massive cap You see, Krelov was

2044
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:09,439
Speaker 1: ranked eight when he got his chin properly mauled back

2045
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 1: to the don. The donitsk People's Republic by Reyes on

2046
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:19,559
Speaker 1: April twelfth, twenty five. Do better, Luke jokes, love the show,

2047
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 1: Keep up the good work, long isl Look, are you

2048
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:22,080
Speaker 1: really dead wrong here?

2049
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 6: No, he misinterpreted what I said. What I said is

2050
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 6: he hasn't beaten anyone in the top thirteen. Whether Krylov

2051
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:30,640
Speaker 6: was ranked in the top thirteen when they fought is

2052
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 6: irrelevant because at this point.

2053
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:33,679
Speaker 2: He's not in the top thirteen.

2054
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 1: So he liam, you're wrong, actually all right, dead wrong

2055
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 1: in fact? Yeah, yeah, I mean you tried to bring

2056
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 1: a receipt. You tried to dunk on us. Turns out

2057
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:46,600
Speaker 1: it was charging all right, no tea bags on this

2058
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:49,280
Speaker 1: side of the court. Thank you. Our final one comes

2059
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:52,880
Speaker 1: from Caine Stewart kin with a k. It's kine. Yeah.

2060
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 1: At around the one hour forty five minute mark, BC

2061
01:40:55,960 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 1: said Ronda fout Holly in December twenty fifteen, So it

2062
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:03,680
Speaker 1: actually took place in November of that year. Keep up

2063
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:05,320
Speaker 1: the good work, fellas. I did look it up. It

2064
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 1: was November fourteenth. I would have bet all my money

2065
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 1: that it was December of twenty fifteen, but that was

2066
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 1: Connor versus Aldo. It was the pay per view after

2067
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 1: so I was wrong UFC one ninety five, Wideman rock

2068
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:21,560
Speaker 1: Hold and the colemane Very. I mean that stretch of

2069
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 1: Mma was just magic, right. Those are dead wrongs. They're

2070
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:28,560
Speaker 1: very pedantic, but you know, somebody's got to be the

2071
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 1: ombudsman in this place. It's time though, for our second segment,

2072
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 1: where we give the people an opportunity to send in

2073
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:38,800
Speaker 1: pictures of their wives wearing our clothing or maybe even

2074
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:41,800
Speaker 1: artwork that we can put on our fridge. This is

2075
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 1: called fan submissions.

2076
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 2: You've got mail fures.

2077
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 1: Our first male viewer comes to us from Mount Unike,

2078
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:55,839
Speaker 1: Nova Scotia. It is former DONC of the Year, CODONK

2079
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:58,760
Speaker 1: of the Year. Excuse me Jay Piquette, who says, uh,

2080
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 1: good day, lou Bclil, Mikey and all of DONC nation.

2081
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 1: Last week, don the Boss Lady and I welcomed a

2082
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:10,639
Speaker 1: very special friend, my non related brother, Chef Mark Piquette,

2083
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 1: flew down from Ontario to visit us at Mount Unike.

2084
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 1: We toured our great province of Nova Scotia with tons

2085
01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:22,200
Speaker 1: of amazing food and drinks. Luckily, our merch three point

2086
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 1: zero arrived in time and we've included some pictures. Much

2087
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:27,560
Speaker 1: love to all you out there. Hugs and kisses to

2088
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:31,800
Speaker 1: my beloved codonk of twenty twenty two, Speaking of can

2089
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 1: we get an appy wellness check? Shout out to Don

2090
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:38,640
Speaker 1: the Boss Lady and Jay Piquette. Luke, what do you

2091
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 1: make of Ja Piquette connecting with fellow MK fan Mark

2092
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 1: Piquette unrelated and then flying to visit each other in

2093
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 1: like an MK family sausage party, and then Chef Mark

2094
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 1: Piquette is actually making the sausage.

2095
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:56,680
Speaker 2: I like how they I feel like we should have

2096
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:57,560
Speaker 2: been invited to this.

2097
01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:00,080
Speaker 1: Yeah it looks fantastic. Yeah, I don't think we of

2098
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 1: the travel budget.

2099
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 2: Oh is that a lobster? Is that a lobster dog

2100
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 2: with like rimold sauce? And then Pepper's on top, because.

2101
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeff Mark's legit, I've seen his on That looks unbelievable.

2102
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 1: We should have Chef Mark and Chef Kaz have like

2103
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:16,639
Speaker 1: a bare knuckle fight for MK for Factory Town promotions.

2104
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 2: What do you think? Yeah? And then the loser BC

2105
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:20,320
Speaker 2: gets to bang their wife.

2106
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:24,680
Speaker 1: Shout out to the cats, Hope you guys are doing

2107
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:26,000
Speaker 1: well up there, and uh.

2108
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:28,400
Speaker 2: I know that food looked amazing. Now I'm jealous.

2109
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was good stuff.

2110
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 2: There.

2111
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:33,759
Speaker 1: Their second fan sub comes from John. He leaves no information.

2112
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 1: Let's see what he's got. Holy what what fuck are

2113
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 1: you shitting me?

2114
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:48,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a simple man.

2115
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm a simple It is a big booty Latina and

2116
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:54,960
Speaker 1: Luke is fired up. Our next one comes from my

2117
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 1: favorite Hawaiian Telligence.

2118
01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 2: Straight guys who don't like that are there?

2119
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, shout out to the Russian ladies. Right, Look,

2120
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

2121
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 4: Right I do.

2122
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:07,120
Speaker 2: By the way, I cannot tell you did you get

2123
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 2: a lot of d ms when you were like, oh,

2124
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:11,560
Speaker 2: the Irish are better looking than the Brazilians. Did you

2125
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Speaker 2: get a lot of m Russian? I said, Russian or

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Speaker 2: whatever it was the whites. No.

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Speaker 1: I did not get a single DM about that, or

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Speaker 1: maybe I missed it.

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01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:21,639
Speaker 2: I got I won't say a dozen, but at least

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01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:25,200
Speaker 2: seven or eight, and they were all like, dude, what

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01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:26,719
Speaker 2: the fuck is wrong with BC?

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, Poland is underrated too.

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Speaker 2: Look, I just want you to know that I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying Poland is trash. That's not what I'm saying. But brother,

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Speaker 2: they're not They're not going to touch Brazil Like, it's

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Speaker 2: just not a thing. That's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: This one's from my favorite Hawaiian televin Big Papa Key Papa,

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Speaker 1: who says the looha dogs Telvin here, I just want

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Speaker 1: to congratulate BC on becoming the prop quiz champion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and made a meme.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, that made a meme that best describes

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Speaker 1: your victory versus who you all the time? All jokes aside, BC,

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01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 1: you are the man representing us factory tone workers everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Keep up the good work, guys. Aloha. So luke BC

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Speaker 1: on pop quiz prop quiz? Excuse me? Is mark On?

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01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 1: What is he winning?

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01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 7: There?

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01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 1: Is that the pride chack?

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01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:12,679
Speaker 2: Maybe like a K one trophy?

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01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:15,679
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure, and then that's mark On at the bottom

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01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:19,400
Speaker 1: with me regularly. Okay, that's that's that's pretty dark right there.

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01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:20,680
Speaker 2: But I was gonna say, I was like, what the

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01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 2: hell is happening in the rest of the.

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Speaker 1: Time, But I get Kelvin Telvin, excuse me not. Kelvin

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01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 1: Gaslam is my favorite factory worker in the world right now,

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01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 1: so shout out to him. He gets out at three am.

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01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 1: He must be lonely. Our next one comes from King

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01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 1: Kim Bong Eel excuse me, and he's got a BC

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01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:42,719
Speaker 1: special let's see it. Sure another kidney has failed the body.

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01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:46,720
Speaker 1: I think he means liver. You only get one of

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01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:48,760
Speaker 1: those livers, though, Luke, you know you gotta be good

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01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 1: to it.

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Speaker 2: That picture from the early days of MK, back when

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01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 2: we were filled with hope and joy, you know what

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01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:53,559
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and we were much more bloated back then.

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01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 2: Yes, the hair was a little naturally darker, you know.

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01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the pandemic we got fat, right, wow, super fat.

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01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:06,759
Speaker 1: Our last fans of of the week comes from Jonas.

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01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 1: Let's see it.

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01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:14,720
Speaker 2: I feel so swinish. What American right now? Spoon feed

2174
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:18,880
Speaker 2: me some ultra processed bacon, and let's bake a baby cake, lady,

2175
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:20,920
Speaker 2: because two thousand and one is going to be our year.

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01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 2: I don't understand what the fuck this is other than

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01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:25,680
Speaker 2: it's vague me.

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01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:29,719
Speaker 1: So it's you vaping looking out at the Twin Towers

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01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 1: in two thousand and one, saying that this is going

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01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:35,120
Speaker 1: to be your year. Is there like another video that

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01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:36,599
Speaker 1: we can't show attached to that long?

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01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:38,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:39,479
Speaker 5: This is all I got for it.

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Speaker 2: It might be a reference to something that we just

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01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 2: don't know, but is this some like the fountain Head

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01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:49,200
Speaker 2: reference or remix or something. I'm not sure what this is.

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01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:52,720
Speaker 1: We did have to with the censor said no to

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01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 1: multiple videos of AI that showed you and the cake

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01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 1: lady sitting there on the honeymoon on the plane with

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01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:02,160
Speaker 1: the towers the window, and then BC drive in the play.

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01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:04,120
Speaker 2: I mean that's just like, yeah, that's not a thing

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01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:05,559
Speaker 2: we can show, right, I.

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01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 1: Mean, plus, you know it was like like can jet

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01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 1: fuel ben steel beams? I don't think so.

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01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:12,639
Speaker 2: To be fair, look you know what I mean, you'd

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01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:14,439
Speaker 2: be the expert to consult on this for sure.

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01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, those were fan submissions. Thank you for playing

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat at gmail dot com for you, and a

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Speaker 1: reminder that this here episode of Morning Combat. It was

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01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:33,040
Speaker 1: brought to you by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours, LT.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for playing today. It was fun. We did

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Speaker 1: what we could with the news available. It's going to

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01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 1: heat up, uh you know pretty soon, right, We're gonna

2204
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 1: be getting some UFC three twenty one around the corner.

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Speaker 1: What's next week's UFC card? Is that going to be good?

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Speaker 7: Er?

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01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 2: Bet? It's the fight? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good card outside of the main event. Switch.

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Speaker 1: It's a good card for sure.

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01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 2: Jack Majory is going to be there, which means get

2211
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 2: get the block button going, roaring that sucker up.

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01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 1: It'll be on mon Al Faroll against Jasmine Jazz Divisius.

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01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm into that fight for sure, no doubt. Luke Thomas,

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01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:10,000
Speaker 1: will you be providing streaming entertainment for UFC HEO this weekend?

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01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:10,240
Speaker 4: No?

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01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 2: I have to work every single day last week and

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01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 2: my family had a bad weekend as a consequence. So

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I might do some post fight stuff on Sunday,

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01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 2: but no live watch along this one, all right. I

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01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 2: have to be a dad.

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01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:24,520
Speaker 1: I can't do it all the time long island, nosda?

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01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 1: Can we expect the main card minute? Which I hear?

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01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:29,679
Speaker 2: No, he did not tell her he's done. Hey girlfriend,

2224
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:32,559
Speaker 2: Hey go go find someone else to keep you warm

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01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 2: in the car.

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01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:38,120
Speaker 6: But uh yeah, full card watch along tomorrow guys four pm.

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Speaker 2: Start join me then. Also prop quis.

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Speaker 6: Chuck Mindenhall, Aaron Brown said, are dropping in roughly forty minutes,

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Speaker 6: So wow, you think.

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Speaker 1: Ab can do this?

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01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:50,760
Speaker 2: Elt They're both pretty good. They're both pretty good. I

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01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 2: would imagine, you know, we'll have to. I guess, you know,

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01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 2: partly it's a little bit of luck, a little bit

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01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 2: of luck.

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Speaker 1: Well, ab used to do those trivia videos on Instagram,

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01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 1: like he knows that's true.

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01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:00,960
Speaker 2: It's a good point. Yeah, I'll be curious to see.

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01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:03,880
Speaker 1: I mean, even though he was an athlete in high school. Look,

2239
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:05,200
Speaker 1: you gotta give him that.

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Speaker 2: It's like, bro, if you went to my high school,

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01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 2: that would not have been a thing. Aosta baby, all right,

2242
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 2: national champion six times.

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01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 1: What was the name of your other high school?

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01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 2: Marietta High School. I went to Valdosta High School and

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01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 2: then Marietta High School. Changing high schools in the middle

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01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 2: of high school is really fun. I recommend it totally.

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01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great for your social life.

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01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's really amazing. I'm really glad my

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01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:27,720
Speaker 2: mom put me through that. Very fun.

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01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 1: But your debate club and ma athlete skills are probably

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01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 1: still talked about it at the at Marriette High right, Yeah, I.

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01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:38,799
Speaker 2: Mean I didn't do debate at Marianna, only at Valdosta.

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01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 1: Oh all right, all right, Well it was great talking

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01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 1: to you. Thank you to the listeners and viewers. You

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01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:48,000
Speaker 1: can follow us right here. Check out our extended universe.

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01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:51,120
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas gets political? Is am I wrong? Is this

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01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 1: thing picking up steam? Look?

2258
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 2: I don't really know what I'm doing, so I don't

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01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:58,000
Speaker 2: know how to answer that, but I do get a

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01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:01,160
Speaker 2: lot of emails. People seem to be responding to it.

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01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:03,360
Speaker 2: It's kind of funny. You know what's amazing because my

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01:50:03,439 --> 01:50:06,679
Speaker 2: family watches none of this, the thing that I've invested

2263
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:10,439
Speaker 2: twenty years in, and they watch, which I gotta have

2264
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 2: to tell you, is an enormous surprise to me. As

2265
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 2: you might imagine in Pride. They they send me feedback

2266
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:19,519
Speaker 2: on my political stuff, and I'm like, I don't even

2267
01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 2: know what I'm doing with this.

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01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 1: Wait you good feedback?

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01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 7: Like?

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01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:25,679
Speaker 1: Are they like good take? Or that was a strong?

2271
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:27,839
Speaker 2: Mostly? Mostly?

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01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 1: Do you think that your dad would be interested in

2273
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 1: you and Ben Shapiro going on?

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01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:34,599
Speaker 2: I don't think my dad has any idea who Ben

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01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 2: Shapiro is. All right, all right, But if you said

2276
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:40,680
Speaker 2: George Will or something, he might care about that.

2277
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:42,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. I read Men at Work when I was a

2278
01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:44,599
Speaker 1: kid by George Will. It was a big baseball book.

2279
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:47,839
Speaker 2: You know, he's he's he's one of those old baseball

2280
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:50,799
Speaker 2: types that treat the sport as like it's partly religious.

2281
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 2: You know, yes, yes, and I don't like that.

2282
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, back in high school he can throw that speedball

2283
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 1: by Hey, how about morning Shop grab our merch. We

2284
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:06,360
Speaker 1: have October exclusives that won't be here forever. Why don't

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Speaker 1: you look good in a super wash Dad's shirt or

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Speaker 1: maybe even average Joe Art's other creation Frank and Luke

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Speaker 1: and Donkula in time for Halloween. They won't be here,

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Speaker 1: putting on your wallet's Morning Combat Dot Shop mix and

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Speaker 1: matches of colors. Thank you. We've got you know items

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Speaker 1: there that you can check out. Thank you, look like

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Speaker 1: dressed like Saoul and maybe be as cool as that guy.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, all right? You ever

2294
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 1: feel like you want to end the show, You just

2295
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 1: don't know how.

2296
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:41,720
Speaker 2: It's not that hard, all right?

2297
01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 1: Why don't you take it home? I gotta let Reggie out.

2298
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:46,200
Speaker 2: Why don't you all right for Long Island, Luke for

2299
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:49,160
Speaker 2: the staff here at the show, For Brian Campbell, I'm lt.

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01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 2: Thank you all so much for watching. We'll catch you

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01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 2: on Monday. Until that time, may all of your gains

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Speaker 2: be loyal