1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Clay Travis and 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Chery. This is Buck here with my man Clay, 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: and we are going to make sense of everything for 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: you today. We've got the immediate leaping to the defense 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: of the chairmer that Joint chiefs of Staff General Millie 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: by all kinds of pundits and commentators, it's not treason 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: if it's against Trump. You see, that's actually the rule. 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, but this is 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: the special rule that exists for anything done to Donald Trump, 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: pass president or future. There are different rules. Will explain 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: why that's insane, but unfortunately that is the reality that 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: we face. Plus, Nicki Minaje has some vaccine questions, gets 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: a lot of attention from the left for this. They're 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: very upset with her over this, just like they're upset 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: apparently with John Stewart, the former Daily Show comedian, and 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: because he said, yeah, the lab Leau hypothesis, it turns 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: out you're not allowed to break from the team on 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: that either. But first we have to make some sense 20 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: of the situation here in California, where probably I mean 21 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: where a Republican Larry Elder is not, in fact, unfortunately 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: going to be the next governor. Governor Gavin Newsom, the 23 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: oleaginist Democrat of the state of California, used sat word. 24 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: I think what percentage of our audiences knows that word? 25 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: A lot. Everybody knows olyaginist. It's a great word. The 26 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: pointier being mister Clay that he is an oily used 27 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:50,919 Speaker 1: car salesman individual who somehow actually not surprising, with millions 28 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: and millions of dollars raised and spent, with the entire 29 00:01:55,280 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: Democratic power apparatus behind him, deploying Joe Biden, deploy Barack Obama, 30 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: the fact that California is turning into increasingly an unlivable 31 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: hellscape in the major cities. There is crime, there is vagrancy, 32 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: there is a there are brownouts, there are wildfires, there 33 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: are all these, all levels of government mismanaged. But if 34 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: you tell your base, if you tell registered Democrats this 35 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: day of California, Trump is um or Trump himself in 36 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: some manifestation is on the ballot, you get a replay, 37 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: which is what it looks like we have of the 38 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty election in the state of California. What do 39 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: you see from the data. So we haven't seen the 40 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: full numbers that are out right. The numbers that I'm 41 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: looking at about seventy percent are in but it looks 42 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: almost identical to what happened in the twenty twenty presidential election, 43 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: which would suggest that nothing has really changed in California 44 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: and that people are still substantially wedded to whatever belief 45 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: they have in twenty twenty. It hasn't changed as we 46 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: move into twenty twenty one. What I would say in 47 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: general is California, to me, is a sign of what 48 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: happens when you believe that your side is always right. 49 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: And I understand that we're in a tribal era and 50 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: everybody just automatically it doesn't matter what the situation is. 51 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: We'll talk about this. I'm certainly certain with general Millie. 52 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: What I try to do is apply consistent logic to stories, 53 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: and that doesn't happen very much, right And that's why 54 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: I think Republicans right now do a better job of 55 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: applying logic to stories and moving on reason as opposed 56 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: to emotion. But they were able to tug on those 57 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: emotional heart strings of Donald Trumps as the boogeyman that's 58 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: always underneath the bed for Democrats, that they are able 59 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: to turn him into a way to get people, a 60 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: motivator to get people out to vote. What's challenging, I 61 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: think in general is, and this is what we've talked 62 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: about a lot on this show, buck, how do you breakthrough? 63 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: And what does a breakthrough look like? And maybe the 64 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: answer is going to be twenty twenty two is going 65 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: to be a lot like twenty sixteen and twenty eighteen 66 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: and twenty twenty. And we're basically just in such of 67 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: a fifty fifty America that it's almost impossible for somebody 68 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: to get to fifty five forty five, right, God forbid 69 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: sixty forty. And so that's what I keep waiting for 70 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: is when logic and truth and sanity is going to 71 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: break out and we're going to have such a win 72 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: that one of the political parties has to go look 73 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: at itself in the mirror and say, okay, it's time 74 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: to adjust. Let me explain what I mean by that. 75 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: Defeat is oftentimes clarifying, Right, anybody who's ever played a sport, 76 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: if you put out your best game plan and you 77 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: get your ass kicked, it's maybe a sign that your 78 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: best game plan wasn't the right one, and so Democrats 79 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: game plan is everything is racist right now. That's their 80 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: entire game plan. That's what they ran on in twenty sixteen, 81 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: that's what they doubled down on in twenty twenty. It's 82 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: identity politics, it's canceled culture. It's that world that they 83 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: have created, and so far they haven't gotten their teeth 84 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: kicked in in an election where they've had to say, hey, 85 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: you know what, this is not a message that resonates 86 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: in America and similarly the Republic that sorry, they're going 87 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: in the opposite direction now right they're saying that this 88 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: actually proves everything that Gavin Nusom did was correct, that 89 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: everything that Gavin Lussom has instituted, from the COVID vaccines 90 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: and from everything that's happening, this was actually instead of 91 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: a moment here where we say, wow, look at Californians 92 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: finally and some level, this is what you were alluding 93 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: to early in the week. If the numbers were quite 94 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: different from what they're looking to be, Wow, they actually 95 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: can pay attention to results and not just ideological political tribalism. 96 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: What we actually have here is no they'll forget about 97 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: the hypocrisy of newsommit French laundry. They'll decide that the 98 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 1: brownouts and the vagrancy and the broad daylight shoplifting without 99 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: a care in the world in San Francisco and Los Angeles, 100 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: that doesn't matter as much as Orange Man bad, even 101 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: though Orange Man in this case, Trump of course isn't 102 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: on the ballot, isn't an office, and has nothing to 103 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: do with any of this. But they can just get 104 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: the base motivated to turn out in very similar numbers 105 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: by percentage of what we saw in twenty twenty. That's 106 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: exactly what I was gonna say in many ways, is 107 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: that the Democrats are going to argue Trump is m 108 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: lost again. The Republican Party, as long as it stays 109 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: committed to Donald Trump, is impossible of winning on a 110 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: major level. And both sides, I think, are able to 111 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: look at the result of twenty twenty and argue, hey, 112 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: if we just tweaked things a little bit more, we 113 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: would have won by a substantial margin. And so you're 114 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: you're you're basically setting up and we'll see what happens 115 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, where there's a large expectation that 116 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: so many people are so dug in to use your 117 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: Magino line theory, right, basically, yeah, we just basically have 118 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: both sides in their in their redoubts, set up in 119 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: their in their bunks. There was no real ground game 120 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: here against liberalism in California. And now, of course the narrative, 121 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: and we have here Gavin Newsom saying what his I mean, 122 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: look this guy, Gavin Newsom, I almost he's so shameless 123 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: that there's almost a level of respect. Right. This is 124 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: the guy that you know would would buy the car 125 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: off of you for half which you paid it and 126 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: then try to sell it back to you for twice. 127 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just it doesn't matter, right, He'll see 128 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: you whatever. Whatever. A great way to describe he here 129 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: he is talking about how well his his assessment of 130 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: what went on here. No, is not the only thing 131 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: that was expressed tonight. I want to focus on what 132 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: we said yes to as a state. We said yes 133 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: to science. We said yes to vaccines, we said yes 134 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: to ending this pandemic. We said yes to people's right 135 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: to vote without fear of fake fraud or voter suppression. 136 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: We said yes to women's fundamental constitutional right to decide 137 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: for herself. What she does with her body, her fate 138 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: and future. We said yes to diversity, We said yes 139 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: to inclusion, we said yes to pluralism. We said yes 140 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: to all those things that we hold dear as Californians. 141 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: And I would argue as Americans, who says no to science, 142 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: by the way, this is these are the strong man 143 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: making us wear masks, the people who are insisting that 144 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: you can't have natural immunity. I mean there's a large 145 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: amount of science that Democrats are saying no to. I 146 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: would argue, but that sounds to me buck. If I'm 147 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, my antenna are going up, that doesn't sound 148 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: like a hey, I want a recall election. That sounds 149 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: like a hey, this is why I need to be 150 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: the president of the United States, right because we've talked 151 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: about what is going to happen unless they try to. 152 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: Because this is another to love the comeback story. Man, 153 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: whether it's Cuomo or now Newsom, you think they can 154 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: just distance I just think that when we look at 155 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, I don't think that they can drag. 156 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: I keep using it because I think it's an accurate, 157 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: uh you know, sort of how many how many of 158 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: our audience have seen Weekend at Bertie's, but I hope 159 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: everyone gets the reference. For those of your wanting movie, 160 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: it is like the most absurd movie of all time. 161 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: There's a guy there's like some some finance bros in 162 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: the eighties who go, what is it they want to 163 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: go to? Like a guy's hooked up the Wikipedia for 164 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: Weekend that bad give a perfect plot synopsis for people 165 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: out there who haven't seen it. Basically, a dead man 166 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: is really has an amazing house, and I think he's 167 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: like the uncle of these of these guys, and in 168 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: order to be able to have the lifestyle that they want, 169 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: they take the dead body around and pretend that Bernie 170 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: is still a lot. It's one of the most absurd 171 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: movies ever made. Actually, what do you think about it? 172 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: And then as absurd as Weekend Bernie's one was, they 173 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: made Weekend to Bernie's two. I was unaware of that. 174 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we get that. Bernie's two came out and 175 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: that is where so Biden getting elected is the Democrat 176 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: version of Weekend at Bernie's, Right, Like they had to 177 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: just drag him around. They got him across the finished line. 178 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: Now they're gonna try Weekend at Bernie's too. I don't 179 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: even think that's gonna work. So there's going to be 180 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: somebody who runs, right, and we know this that's different, 181 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: I think than Joe Biden. Very likely, And so Kamala 182 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: Harris is going to be the presumptive favorite because it's 183 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: racist and sexist if she's not the nomination based on 184 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: the Democratic platform. Right now, but when I hear that 185 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: Gavin K. Newsome argument, it doesn't sound like an argument 186 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: about the recall. It's a forward thinking argument for the 187 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: validation of all of his policies in California, writ large 188 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: and Marla wondering if he's going to try to run 189 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: Now he also becomes unfortunately, there's a little bit of 190 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: a of a snap back here, if you will, because 191 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: the right can't you know, you remember remember in the wire, right, 192 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: you come at the King, you must do best not 193 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: miss right. Yes, we came at Newsom here, the Republicans 194 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: did and others in ken California, and they missed. And 195 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: so now what ends up happening politically speaking, of course, 196 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: Now what ends up happening Clay is he says and 197 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: turns around and says, I am actually the one who 198 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: stood athwart the anti science Republican efforts to tear down 199 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: the Fauciite edifice that we need to build. I'm the 200 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: one that people need to rally around. He is going 201 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: to position himself now as the left's roun de santis. 202 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: Watch it happen, because that's them right then. 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And there's there's no Quomo now 213 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: to try to take away the attention like he is 214 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: this standard bearer for the left wing response to COVID. 215 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: Come back into some moor on this and also the 216 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: general Millie stuff. I mean, we called it yesterday, We 217 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: absolutely nailed it here on the show people we're Clay 218 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: and are saying, well, this looks like treason. And the 219 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: first thing I say is, well, the left is gonna 220 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: say that he's actually a hero. They're gonna go in 221 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: the opposite direction, no doubt with General Millie. We'll get 222 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: into that in a few moments. 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Now, I guess at this point and the 259 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: Gavin Knewsome recall election attempt failed, and you knew what 260 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: was going to happen when it fails, and we were 261 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: just talking about this. Gavin Newsom then makes a play 262 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: to become the standard bearer of his part, especially in 263 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: the wake now of Cuomo being off the stage. Gavin 264 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: Newsom didn't just say that he was avoiding being recalled. 265 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: He also used it as an opportunity to attack Donald Trump. 266 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: And the big lie here is Gavin Newsom. Democracy is 267 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: not a football. You don't throw it around. It's more 268 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: like a I don't know, antique vase. You can drop 269 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: it and smash it a million different pieces. And that's 270 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: what we're capable of doing if we don't stand up 271 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: to meet the moment and push back. I said this 272 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: many many times on the campaign trail. You know, we 273 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: may have defeated Trump, but Trump is um is not 274 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: dead in this country. The big lie January sixth insurrection, 275 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: all the voting suppression efforts that are happening all across 276 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: this country, what's happening in the assaulting fundamental rights constitutionally 277 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: protected rights of women and girls. It's a remarkable moment 278 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: in our nation's history. That is Gavin Newsom, look out, 279 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. He's coming for your spot as the presumptive nominee. 280 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: Would he have the gumption to challenge her after she 281 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: is also obviously a California and spend a lot of 282 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: time campaigning for him. Do you think he'd do it? Buck, 283 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: You'd have to say who who would the Democrat apparatus 284 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: go for? Who would they rather have? I think there's 285 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: a very clear recognition. Even and I'm talking about the 286 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: Democrats that I know, and I look at Democrat friends 287 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: people in our business that are on the left, and 288 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: I'll talk to them from time and time. I think 289 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: they know that. Originally they believe Kamala Harris would if 290 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: put in this show. Okay, she couldn't get people to 291 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: vote for her, but if you put her in the 292 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: vice president role, it's an easy job. And I think 293 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: there's some real remorse, if you will, from those who 294 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: made that, from the Biden campaign, the handlers around him 295 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: that put her in that position. I look Gavin Newsom, 296 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: as much as it paids me to say this, there's 297 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: a more talent to politician than Kamala Harris is. I 298 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: think that's quite clear. I think he's a savvier guy, 299 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: and so I gotta feel like they'd go Remember they 300 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: jumped over Biden to give it to Hillary. 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You heard a lot of anger 335 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: about China and trade, and we made a great trade. 336 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: Did you heard a lot of anger in China with 337 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: the China virus. But for him to say that I 338 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: would even think about attacking China, I think he's trying 339 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: to just get out of his incompetent withdrawal out of Afghanistan. 340 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: The worst, the dumbest thing that anybody's seen, probably the 341 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: most embarrassing thing that's ever happened to our country. Once again, 342 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: Trump cuts right to the heart of the matter. Welcome 343 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: back to Clay and Buck show. This is Buck. That 344 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: was Trump and Clay. Here's just for everyone. This is 345 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: a quick quick review here right, This is from Reuters. 346 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: The top us general secretly called his Chinese counterparts twice 347 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: over concerns then President Donald Trump could spark a war 348 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: with China as his potential election loss loomed. And in 349 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: its aftermath, that was Washington Post initial reporting. By the way, 350 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: part of the whole, part of the whole system, the 351 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: machine chenery of Woodward book promotion at hard at work 352 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: here right, the Washington Park comes out with the story 353 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: he's got a bowed down at him. They know how 354 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: to do that, right. But it also does seem to 355 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: have been somewhat at least early corroboration, and it certainly 356 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: seems plausible. But before Clay we get into it. Well, 357 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: our initial reaction yesterday I remember I said this to you, was, Oh, 358 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: they're going to say that he's a hero for doing 359 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: this right there, the same way that the people that 360 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: were trying to pretend Trump was crazy, so he should 361 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: be removed from the twenty fifth Amendment, which is an 362 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: abuse of the twenty fifth Amendment. Clearly the president was 363 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 1: of sound mind, but it wouldn't have mattered because they 364 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: wanted him gone. They're already trying to normalize this backchannel communication. 365 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: But what Trump said there, Clay, I think is the 366 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: single most important aspect of all of this. The notion 367 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump was going to start a war with 368 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: China is as insane as the notion that Donald Trump 369 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: worked with Vladimir Putin and the Fremlin to steal the 370 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen election. But Libs, because of trump dearrangement syndrome, 371 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: will believe anything about this guy. Yeah, and look, I 372 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: just want to focus on so I think if he 373 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: did this in the way that it was reported, I 374 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: do think it's treason, okay, And I want to focus 375 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: on a couple of angles here that we started to 376 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: talk about yesterday. But I think our significant and you 377 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: know this, Buck, as somebody who worked in intelligence. If 378 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: you have the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs reaching out 379 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: to his Chinese counterparts to let them know that he 380 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: won't be executing orders on behalf of President Trump if 381 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: he disagrees with them. Basically, that is such a fundamental 382 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: fracturing of the American political process that it could have 383 00:21:54,240 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: emboldened China to potentially invade Taiwan. Right, Millie thought, if 384 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: you buy his version of the truth that is being 385 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: told in the Woodward book, that he was actually making 386 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: the world safer, Chinese people who are advising Chairman Z 387 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: could have gone to him and said, the United States 388 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: politically is so fractured right now, the military will not 389 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: support Donald Trump. Now is the time, if ever, for 390 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: US to invade Taiwan. I don't believe the US will 391 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: be able to respond militarily. So Buck, you know how 392 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: this stuff works from an intelligence fashion. If you knew 393 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: that the top military official or one of them, was 394 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: contacting through back channels one of our American officials and saying, hey, 395 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to follow the orders of the commander 396 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: in chief. Would that not embolden you in some way 397 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: for the incompetence that you were seeing on the other side. Absolutely, 398 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's a very very astute framing of the issue, Clay. 399 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: I would also add a comparison, which is really just 400 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: what you're doing, but I would add a specific comparison 401 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: of Remember during the transition with General Flynn, incoming National 402 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: Security Advisor, we were told that it was a huge problem, 403 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: a violation of the Logan Act for the incoming National 404 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: Security Advisor to have a conversation with his Russian counterpart, 405 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: Ambassador Sarage Kiselak of the Russian Russian Ambassy in the US, 406 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: and all he said, I mean we actually we've all 407 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: seen the transcript. By the way, no one ever went 408 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: to prison for that leak of classified information to the 409 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: Washington Post. I might add somehow they always get away 410 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: with this stuff when it goes against Trump people. But 411 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: that showed us that all he said was don't overreact. 412 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: There's a new you know we're coming in. Let's com 413 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: thigs down a little bit. And Clay, they wanted to. 414 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: They pretended that they could actually get Bass I mean 415 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: General Flynn on a Logan Act violation, a criminal violation 416 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: for that, and that he was a trader. People called 417 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: General Flynn, who served the military for thirty years, a 418 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: trader for that. He didn't do anything. He wasn't betraying 419 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: the commander in chief. He was working on behalf of 420 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: the incoming commander in chief. And that led to criminal 421 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: investigation that led to Flynn's resignation. They tortured Flynn in 422 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: the courts for years over this. Do you think they're 423 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: gonna do that to General Millie. I don't think so, 424 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: of course not. And that leads to my second part, 425 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: which I want to hit when we come back into 426 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: the final part of the first hour. Here Democrats are 427 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: defending Millie, and as we get ready to go to 428 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: this break, I just want you to think about this. 429 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: And this is where I say precedent matters. I don't 430 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: think Joe Biden is doing a good job as president. 431 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: I don't think that anybody out that's got some bold statement, 432 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: bold statement. Quinnipac came out with their poll at some 433 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: point today a show. I'll read you some of the findings. 434 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's approval rating has fallen to forty two percent 435 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: in the most recent poll from Quinnipac qu Quinipae announced 436 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: that up and you say it. There you go, they 437 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: do a regular poll. Okay, so we're going to talk 438 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: about that. But I just want you to think about 439 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: this as we go to break. Even as much as 440 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: we all agree Joe Biden is doing an awful job, 441 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: how wrong would it be for a top military official 442 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,719 Speaker 1: to call China through back channels and say, I just 443 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: want you to know Biden is in such poor mental 444 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: state that no military official in the United States is 445 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,719 Speaker 1: going to listen to anything he tells us to do. 446 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: Can I can? I also say, Clay that even if 447 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: and the whole way they're defending Milly on this, I mean, 448 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: to the point you're raising, even if Millie had the 449 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: purest of intentions in doing this by not which which 450 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: I do not agree with, I think he's insane. I 451 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: think the notion of a war with China is crazy. 452 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: But he would do this in a way that would 453 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: undermine the actual sitting commander in chief presents And this 454 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: is what you're saying with time, it presents an opportunity. 455 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: Maybe the Chinese counterpart goes well. If they're having this 456 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: fight up the election, they're that worried about this, whether 457 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: we forget about Taiwan or anything else for a second, 458 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: although that's obviously something that would be a concern too. 459 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: Maybe we add fueled with a fire in America. The 460 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 1: Chinese have all kinds of cyber operations, all kinds of 461 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: things they could do. Makes us even more vulnerable. You don't. 462 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 1: It's kind of like, you know, we're a big American family, right, 463 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: and a lot of people I know, I believe in 464 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 1: this rule. There's stuff you say within the family, but 465 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: outside you're a united front, right, We're supposed to be 466 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: a united front, especially against our biggest global rival and 467 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: the only real military threat we face. And General Millie 468 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: thought that this was a good idea. I mean, this guy, look, 469 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: that's the same reason we say he's terrible decision making 470 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: and judgment when it comes to you know, white fragility 471 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: on the reading list for military officers. Yeah, well, and 472 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: given up Bogram Air Force Base, the disaster in Afghanistan. 473 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: But again, I just want you to think, and we're 474 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: going to talk about this when we come back. Democrats 475 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: are defending Millie, but I just want you to think 476 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: about the institution of the American presidency and the importance 477 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: that we have a commander in chief who is a civilian, 478 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: and that the civilian gets to direct the military. And 479 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: when the military is saying, regardless of who the commander 480 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: in chief is, that they're not going to follow the 481 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: lead of the commander in chief, the democratically elected president 482 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: of the United States, regardless of your political leanings. This 483 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: is treasonous behavior laced with espionage. And I want to 484 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: talk about that when we come back, because it's in 485 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: the context of what Democrats are saying right now. 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You want 496 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: to have unlimited data text and six gigs for just 497 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: thirty dollars a month, no overages. My own family is 498 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: using this, Buck could save eight hundred dollars a year. 499 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: What do people need to do to save as much 500 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: money as they can on their cell phone bill? I 501 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: just want them to know, Clay, they've got an amazing 502 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: offer right an unlimited talk, yes text, and six gigs 503 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: of data. It's only thirty dollars a month. You're just 504 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: saving money getting what you need here for your phone 505 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: with better customer service. So from your cell phone right now, 506 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: if you want to switch, and you should dial pound 507 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: two fifty and say pure Talk and you'll say fifty 508 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: percent off your first month. That's pound two five zero 509 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: say pure Talk. You'll have the option to receive a 510 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: one time autodial text message from Pure Talk. Welcome back in, Clay, 511 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton show just kind of setting a table 512 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: because we're going to continue to talk about this general 513 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,239 Speaker 1: Millie mess. And one of the things that bothers me 514 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: in general is when, no matter what the facts are, 515 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: your natural inclination is to act as if you are 516 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: the defense attorney for a particular political party. And MSNBC, 517 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: I think does this on an unbelievable level. And I'm 518 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: gonna unpack this a little bit more at the start 519 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: of the second hour for why you should be concerned 520 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: about the actions undertaken by General Millie, no matter whether 521 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: you're a Democrat, Republican, or independent, because they go right 522 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: to the heart of the constitutional responsibilities of the military 523 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: in our republic. But Buck, they've already come out with 524 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: a statement the Pentagon has basically saying that he didn't 525 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: do anything right where you go, this is from the 526 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: mucus Tomlinson over at Fox News from the Pentagon. General 527 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: Milly regularly communicates with foreign counterparts, including China and Russia. 528 00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: These conversations remain vital to US national security interests, reducing tensions, 529 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: providing clarity, and avoiding unintended consequences or conflict. His calls 530 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: with the Chinese and others in October and January were 531 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: in keeping with these duties and responsibilities, conveying reassurance in 532 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: order to maintain strategic stability. All calls from the Chairman 533 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: to his counterparts, including those reported, are staff coordinated and 534 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: communicated with the Department of Defense and the Interagency Clay. 535 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: You could say they are calling this a perfectly fine 536 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: phone call. That's exactly what they're doing. But the way 537 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: that it's been conveyed to Bob Woodward, at least through 538 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: his book, is certainly not the way the Pentagon just 539 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: tried to spend this. And what I would say is 540 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: it's not a surprise because we told you yesterday when 541 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: this story broke. And again I think you have to 542 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: give credit to Bob Woodward and the masterful ability he 543 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: has as books come out to distribute newsworthy tidbits to 544 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: the different news organism so they end up being discussed. 545 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: But Joy Read on MSNBC immediately came out and said, 546 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: we're about to play for you. But before you listen 547 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: to this, I want you to just think if General 548 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: Millie had gotten on the phone with China and he 549 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: had said, Joe Biden, his mental faculties have declined to 550 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: such an extent that we are not in the military 551 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: ever going to follow his orders. We have made a pact. 552 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: We want to let you know that if he decides 553 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: that he wants to attack China, we're never going to 554 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: do it. Would Joy Reid be saying what she did 555 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: last night. Listen, Senator Cruz and others suggesting that's almost 556 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: traitorous behavior from Milliates talk to the Chinese like that, 557 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: and in fact Senarubio called for Joe Biden to fire him. Yeah, okay, 558 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: good love of that, because he seems to be the 559 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: greatest patriot that was on duty during the previous administration. 560 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: This is General Millie again, who I have to say 561 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: is emerging as a pretty important and heroic American figure 562 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: in this era. Millie reportedly told his counterpart, this may 563 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: look unsteady, but that's the nature of democracy. And this 564 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: is him talking with Chinese General Lee. General Lee, he says, 565 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: we are one steady, everything's fine, but democracy can be 566 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: sloppy sometimes. That might be the understatement of the year. 567 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: He said, if we're going to attack you, I'll let 568 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: you know. Fun I'll give your heads up, as if 569 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: war with China was imminent because Trump was saying that 570 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: there were some uncounted ballots in Georgia or double counted 571 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: ballots in Pennsylvania or whatever. Clay, this is lunacy, but 572 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: it also falls right into the pattern. I remember the 573 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: anonymous op ed writer, and then we found out who 574 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: the guy was, and every person I was in that 575 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: White House. Sometimes I knew lots of people the administration 576 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: and spoke the president a bunch of times. Every person 577 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: was like, what who is this guy? But remember his 578 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: whole thesis was I have to stop President Trump, the 579 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: anonymous op ed writer, from doing what he wants to do, 580 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: because that's how much I love the country. And you 581 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: had Democrats all over saying, oh, isn't this great? And 582 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: this was true within the federal bureaucracy, two people that 583 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: were trying to thwart him. This is madness. I just 584 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: want to say again, he told the Chinese that if 585 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: we were going to attack them, he would give them 586 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: a heads up. Buck. Imagine again, imagine the analogy that 587 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: I used yesterday. If we had gotten a phone call 588 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: or a secret telegram back in the nineteen forties from 589 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: a top Japanese military official letting them know, hey, on 590 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: December seventh, nineteen forty one, instead of the day that 591 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: lives in infamy, we're gonna let you know so that 592 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: your entire Pearl Harbor fleet is ready mobilized and prepared. 593 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: This won't be a surprise attack on your Pacific fleet. Instead, 594 00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: we'll be sending our Japanese troops into an ab salute 595 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: Hornet's nest where everybody is prepared and they can wipe 596 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: us out. That would be espionage. That would be treason, 597 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: even looking at it from the Japan to America perspective, 598 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 1: if you want to stick at the World War two, 599 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: imagine that somebody had called the Nazis and said, hey, 600 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: you know how we're fainting like we're gonna come across 601 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: at at all these different locations and it's super top 602 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: secret where we're exactly gonna land on D Day while 603 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: we're coming into Normandy, just so you know we're coming 604 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: into Normandy. That's treason. That would be actual of an 605 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: actual military action. This is crazy because he's promising the 606 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: advanced knowledge of something that no saying human being actually 607 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: thought was going to happen, and yet they just skip 608 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: over that part of it, like, oh, I mean, at 609 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: any moment, Clay, they said we were going to start 610 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: a war with North Korea, they said we were going 611 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: to start a war with thilling them black with they 612 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: ran after so many well because of the Solimani, so 613 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 1: many times Trump was gonna start a war and yet 614 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: four years no war started. Pretty interesting when you look 615 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: at it that way, Huh, But not even just wants us. 616 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: We were about to invade Beijing. They needed they need 617 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: to go fauci themselves. World War three. It wasn't just 618 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: where we were going to start a war. It was 619 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: World War three. It was gonna be a cataclysmic struggle. 620 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: And again I would just say, think about him. We're 621 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: gonna talk about this at the top of the second 622 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: hour because I think it's such a significant story here. 623 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: Think about what the reaction would be if General Millie 624 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: was doing this to Joe Biden. Would Joy Reid be 625 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: going on MSNBC and saying he's a he's a patriot, 626 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: he's a hero, he's creating They're gonna she's like the 627 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: most laughably dishonest commentator on television. There's a few that 628 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: we could put, but there are other people that are 629 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: supposed to be serious, Clay supposed to be serious, who 630 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: are entirely un serious on this issue. And what I 631 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: just want to do is I want to apply the 632 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: same precedence and I want to talk about why this 633 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 1: is treason, its behavior, why I think it is an espionage, 634 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: and why we certainly should be investigating what exactly went on, 635 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: what was said, and how it all happened and not 636 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: bragging in a bob Wood. We're both speaking of serious 637 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: and worthwhile people. Don't. We have a certain senator joining 638 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: us to talk about all the things, all of the things. 639 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: Senator Ran Paul will join us. We'll probably play him 640 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: some of that chicken pox versus COVID vaccine discussion we 641 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: had with doctor Mark McCary from Johns Hopkins just today. 642 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 1: A lot of good stuff still coming, and that's gonna 643 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: be the third hour, Senator ram Paul talking to us 644 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: about all things COVID and just what's going on in 645 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: the country. Clay's gonna bring us back in here a 646 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: second with is it not treason if it's against Trump? 647 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: Let's answer that question. You're listening to Clay Travis and 648 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton fund the EIB Network.