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Speaker 1: This is a Headgun podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mikey, you said that you didn't know my dad was

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Speaker 2: in the picture. You didn't know, you didn't. Excuse me,

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Speaker 2: you said you didn't What did you say?

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Speaker 1: I didn't know your dad wasn't in the picture?

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Speaker 2: Is it because I seemed like a girl with a dad, right?

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Speaker 2: I think? I think I think I seemed like a

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Speaker 2: girl with a dad.

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Speaker 1: But also when you would talk about your family kind

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Speaker 1: of wanting you to be a doctor, and I thought

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Speaker 1: you were including your father.

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Speaker 2: No part of them. No, No, I mean I'm sure

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Speaker 2: he wanted me to be a doctor too, though, right,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure sure he was a doctor.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a stepfather? No?

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Speaker 2: No stepfather, No stepfather. I do not have a dad

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Speaker 2: in the picture. And I really you know, people like

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Speaker 2: girls without dads. It's were labeled girls with daddy issues, right,

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Speaker 2: But you.

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Speaker 1: Never struck me as someone who does not have a

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Speaker 1: father or didn't grow up with a father.

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Speaker 2: Because of the doctor thing? And is there anything else?

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Speaker 2: Because this is this is fascinating to me, truly, because

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Speaker 2: I know I'm not naturally, I know I'm really funny naturally,

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Speaker 2: but this is a thing that is fascinating to me.

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Speaker 2: Because I think that I have suspected I've never confirmed

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Speaker 2: it when way or the other, and you just said it.

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Speaker 2: I've suspected that most people don't assume my dad's not

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Speaker 2: in the picture, which perhaps is a strange assumption anyway,

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Speaker 2: But I don't think anything about my personality lends itself

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Speaker 2: to that, as I'm.

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Speaker 1: Successful put together.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what quote unquote daddy issues

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Speaker 1: might manifest themselves as. But I don't know. You just

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Speaker 1: didn't strike me as someone. I mean, you didn't. You

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Speaker 1: haven't obviously brought it up a lot. But now I

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Speaker 1: feel like a bad friend because I wasn't aware that would.

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Speaker 2: You have treated me differently if you knew you didn't

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Speaker 2: have a dad a lot different.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't talk to you. But I mean, you haven't

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Speaker 1: necessarily brought it up. But I feel like I know

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Speaker 1: you fairly well.

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Speaker 2: I think I feel like you know me. I don't

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Speaker 2: think you know me pretty well. There's layers because mystery.

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Speaker 2: I've got a lot of secrets. Mister Day.

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Speaker 1: I guess when we talk we talk what we talked

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Speaker 1: about your relationship in terms of personal stuff?

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Speaker 2: Yes, and what were your thoughts and takeaway there.

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Speaker 1: You you don't deserve to put up with any bullshit.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Mikey Day. You heard it from Mikey Day. Guys,

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Speaker 2: don't fantastic lady think Mikey's so sweet.

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Speaker 1: He's smart and smart. I was going to say smart intelligent.

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Speaker 1: Those are the same word intelligent both. You're obviously so funny.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Mike gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I brought Mikey onto this gas independent woman.

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Speaker 1: You do not need to put up with any bullshit.

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Speaker 2: No more, no more, no, thank you, Mike.

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Speaker 1: No more bullshit from a man.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that, because you know what, Mikey, I fuck

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Speaker 2: with you. Thank you for saying that. Okay, Hi, guys,

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Speaker 2: I may go wode him and welcome to thank dad.

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Speaker 2: Mikey is miming clapping for me. We love that. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I was raised by a single mom, and I don't

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Speaker 2: have a relationship with my dad, and in fact, the

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Speaker 2: guy's dead now. So on this podcast, I'm sitting down

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Speaker 2: with father figures. He giggles at the notion that he'd

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Speaker 2: be counted a father figure. Father figures, who you think

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Speaker 2: it's funny that your dad just how that happen? How

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Speaker 2: that happened one fun night and now I'm a dad. Okay,

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Speaker 2: father figures who are old enough to be my dad?

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Speaker 1: Who?

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Speaker 2: Or are just dads themselves. I'm going to get to

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Speaker 2: the questions I've always wanted to ask a dad, like

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Speaker 2: how do I know if the person I'm dating is

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Speaker 2: the one? How do I change my oil? Dad?

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Speaker 1: Oh? No?

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Speaker 2: So My next guest is the host of Netflix's hit

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Speaker 2: show is It Cake Hit? It's a hit? Come on,

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Speaker 2: you know it's a hit. Don't pretend to be humble.

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Speaker 2: You know it's a hit.

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: I love it and can be seen on Saturday Night.

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Speaker 1: Live alongside star Mike.

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Speaker 2: Mikey is the most generous, though he's never given me money,

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Speaker 2: only compliments. Please welcome my dad for the Day, Mikey

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Speaker 2: Day for the Day, Mikey Day, My dad for the day, Mikey.

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Speaker 2: Emma has gone ahead and turned the volume down, so

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Speaker 2: it's to suggest we are yelling.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry because I.

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Speaker 2: Just I got excited personally about the like Mikey Day,

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Speaker 2: Dad for the day, and I'm put it together. Your

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Speaker 2: brain works fast. What's the So if you're my dad

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Speaker 2: for the day and your name is Mikey Day, do

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Speaker 2: it for the day, Mikey, dad for the day. Yeah, no, Mikey,

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Speaker 2: dad for the day. Correct, that's that's mathematics. Okay, Mikey.

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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm so excited to be here.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy you're the host of a podcast. I'm

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Speaker 2: the host. Can you believe someone let me have a microphone.

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Speaker 2: They let me have a microphone? Women talking?

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Speaker 1: I can't believe women? What's next?

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Speaker 2: Reading opinions, Mikey. I'm so happy you're here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. I'm so glad, so much so,

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Speaker 1: I will do anything.

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Speaker 2: I'm I really, it means a lot to me.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big a supporter. I will support you.

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Speaker 2: I feel it. I feel it in my bones. You're

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Speaker 2: the very best Mikey. You know, we talk about a

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Speaker 2: lot of things at work. We have a lot of

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Speaker 2: downtime between takes and rehearsals and blocking.

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Speaker 1: Right, we'll get real every once in a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And after table read, Yeah, table reading the long window

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Speaker 2: The sketches to meet Do you feel particularly emotionally vulnerable

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Speaker 2: after table because I feel like table read is such

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Speaker 2: an emotion, Like I think Tuesday to Wednesday at work

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Speaker 1: Right where you can either have great success or miserable failure,

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Speaker 1: and it's up and down, so.

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Speaker 2: Up and down, and it's never just kind of like neutral.

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Speaker 2: It just I can't name a night on a Wednesday

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Speaker 2: never not once, And so then we do get real

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Speaker 2: on Wednesdays. It's like it's a good time to stop

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Speaker 3: Real, to find out what happens when I don't know

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Speaker 3: if I'm emotionally vulnerable simply because I've been there for

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Speaker 3: a while and just have bond so hard at table

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Speaker 3: read to like complete silence.

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Speaker 1: You've probably been there for some like complete silence, so

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Speaker 1: you get used to it.

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Speaker 3: YEA.

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Speaker 1: Mostly just kind of tired after the marathon and then

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Speaker 2: And Heidi come into your room and just dump on

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Speaker 2: you on decorated dress dressing room is hideous, but it

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Speaker 2: used to be has to be my and Heidi's dressing room.

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Speaker 2: My first season, I shared the little space, but that's

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Speaker 2: how we got close. We could have hated each other,

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Speaker 2: loved each other. There's no in between in that little space.

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Speaker 2: And I loved her.

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Speaker 1: I loved it. Life we are.

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Speaker 2: That's my my damn girl. Mikey. When did you get

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Speaker 2: hired at sn L? I know I should know all

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Speaker 2: these fun facts about you.

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Speaker 1: It was twenty thirteen to twenty fourteen that season, hired

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Speaker 1: as a writer. Okay, I remember Miley Cyrus was like

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Speaker 1: an early host that season of my first season. I

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Speaker 1: think that's when I remember she was like twirking at

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Speaker 2: The tongue is out.

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Speaker 1: All that period.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like, I'm not a Disney little girl anymore.

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Speaker 2: I'm a woman who likes to shake my yeah exactly. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I remember that that season. Was hired as a writer,

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Speaker 2: So that was a while ago. Were your parents proud

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Speaker 2: or did they next care? Okay, my mom, it's very funny.

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Speaker 2: It was like, do you think maybe you'll be on

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Speaker 1: But as you know, when you write at ESNL, it's

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Speaker 1: so creatively fulfilling. You're in charge of your piece. You're

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you become a producer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for better or for worse, Right, you get to

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Speaker 1: if it goes well, you get to enjoy all the credit,

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Speaker 1: and if it goes bad, you get all the credit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but so, but yes, they were obviously obviously very very proud.

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Speaker 2: Now when your mom asked you about like, okay, do

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Speaker 2: Was that an annoying question to you at the time, because.

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Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you, you know.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, so okay, So when you came to the

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Speaker 1: My dad? My dad has passed away last year.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sorry, how dare you? It was my fault?

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Speaker 2: I did it. I did it.

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Speaker 2: Ultimately, Aros went back to me, that's a podcast about that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: your dad did pass Also, by the way, I saw

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Speaker 2: you after your dad passed, I did is it cake?

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Speaker 2: That last summer twenty three? Yeah, I did it. I

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Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, my dad passed away, or maybe it

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Speaker 2: was January of twenty twenty four, but you were like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: my dad passed away last year. And I'm like, you

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Speaker 1: I'm cutting a cookie jar that made out of cake and.

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Speaker 2: Just what the cake goes dark?

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Speaker 1: Yeah it happened. Yeah, it was last summer.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: And so he had been he didn't really want to fly,

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Speaker 1: he was traveling, was getting a little more difficult, and

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Speaker 1: so he never made it out. But my mom has okay,

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Speaker 1: and she's done the Mother's Day Show.

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Speaker 2: If you yes, I met her. She's sweet as pie

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Speaker 2: as your mother is. Thank you. Absolutely. All the moms

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Speaker 2: so sweet. I want to I was about to be like,

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Speaker 1: God bless this man's soul. He took me to any movie.

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Speaker 1: We always go to a matinee like after work. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And he would always be like, yes, yeah, And what

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Speaker 2: Like this is my respectibility. So your your dad was

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Speaker 1: So we died at one hundred and thirty. He was forty.

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Speaker 1: My parents didn't think they could conceive naturally. Okay, they

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, you went to the movies basically every day

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Speaker 1: It was like wrapped it five wrapped. Yeah, that's the

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Speaker 2: That's what all he knows is industry stuff. Did your

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Speaker 1: You know? The hardest? Maybe I ever heard him laugh.

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Speaker 1: He loved that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: But I remember one time I was really into this

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Speaker 1: of it. It was like one of those. And I

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00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: was really excited about it, and I was like and

442
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: then I kind of opened up and he's like, Oh,

443
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: that's great. She sounds sounds like a great gual. I'm

444
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: in fifth grade at the time, and told you were like,

445
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: I remember that for some reason. It's like a core

446
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: memory in my room, being like, oh no, I just

447
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: really like her and I hope she likes this necklace.

448
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: I was all about presence.

449
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 2: Oh you're is that one of your your top love language?

450
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with love languages?

451
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: Yes? I am familiar. I don't know if that remained.

452
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean I always thought it was fun to get

453
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: a lady a cool, fun gift.

454
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, more like fun rather than meaningful or like.

455
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: Some like Cartier necklace with diamonds all over it. I

456
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: mean definitely like that.

457
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 2: Pardon a woman would like that, Mike true.

458
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: I mean I've gotten some of that type of thing,

459
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: but you don't enjoy giving Paula.

460
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 2: Is Mikey wife?

461
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: Who is that's my wife? For instance, we my wife

462
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: and I Sorry to tangent, no, please bond it over

463
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: back to the future. Early in our relationship our mutual

464
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: love for the movie. One of our first dates was

465
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: going to a screening at the original at the Twin

466
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: Pines Mall where they shot the parking lot scene like

467
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: that movie. You're like, you're a door.

468
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: I am a little like, Okay, you love this movie.

469
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 3: I love.

470
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 2: You know what movie I love?

471
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: And I can only love to want The Town by

472
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: the way I actively search. I remember you tell me

473
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: an action figure of the Town nun with the mask.

474
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: Because when Ago told me my favorite movie is The Town,

475
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: it because it's an awesome movie, so good. It's just

476
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: so not what I I don't know what I was expecting.

477
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: But I certainly you got to be like the note

478
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: the notebook, I seem.

479
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: Like surprise me, probably even more than the town.

480
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: Okay, what if I had said, like men in Black,

481
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, right, because we're.

482
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: All funny to me.

483
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all good movies, right exactly. But I am

484
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 2: just the town through and through the town. It's it's

485
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: the greatest. So we're Mike. You gave me on these

486
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 2: three tangents away, five tangents away. Wait, okay, the gift

487
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 2: you're you're a gift given.

488
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: That's when I remember a time when I spoke to

489
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: my father and like kind of opened up about Okay,

490
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: but speaking.

491
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 2: Of love languages, though, what would you say your dad's

492
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 2: love languages? Because it sounds like ifs were important to

493
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: you or like just fun ones if you had to guess, no, okay,

494
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: can I can I tell you very like affectionate?

495
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't see my parents. I mean they were

496
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: in love obviously, but there wasn't a lot of like

497
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: my dad taking my mom sleeping arms, and a lot

498
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: of like just like little is here and there.

499
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: Little kisses? Do you guys? You and Paula do that

500
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 2: you take Paula in your arms out. Well, I'm not

501
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 2: like little kisses here in front of the family.

502
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we have a bit. We have a family

503
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: bit that I don't know. One time we were on

504
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: we were walking home from something, Paula, myself and our son,

505
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: and we gave each other a little kiss and we

506
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: just said, what if, Abbot, what if you are the

507
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: abbess the name of our son.

508
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 4: Sorry wife, Abbot is, his son said, was watching us kissing.

509
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 4: Were very we were very open about doing bits with

510
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 4: Abbot and would. He's been raised under a household where

511
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 4: you like a joke around do stupid bits house, which

512
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 4: is interesting with his friends because a lot of the

513
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: sort of middle school fit, I mean fifth through whatever,

514
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 4: he's going to seventh, but a lot of the humor

515
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 4: is just quoting the internet, like quoting memes.

516
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: Wow, and it's like that's hilarious.

517
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

518
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: And he'll be doing things like can you imagine if

519
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: like no one knew me and I was just sitting

520
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: in class as if and like everyone's like, who's that?

521
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: But I'm there, and it'll be like quote a quote

522
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 2: a mean brother, Come on, what are you talking about?

523
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: That's what the girls like, so it's interesting. He's kind

524
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: of has a difference sense of humor. But we've said

525
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: like that'll come, that'll come in handy later as you

526
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: get older.

527
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: Yes, does he feel like does he feel like he's

528
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: not in in the end because he's not quoting, mean,

529
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: he just.

530
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: Says sometimes kids will be like what or like okay,

531
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: he'll do that. I mean he loves himself a good

532
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: internet meme. Okay, will quote the hell out of them,

533
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: which he does all the time. Young man who can

534
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: do both? Ye, just saying things like what are you

535
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: talking about? What kind of dad would you say?

536
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: You are?

537
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: You find yourself saying the exact things that your parents said.

538
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: Are you surprised? Other night? You gotta wear your retainer, pud,

539
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: you gotta wear your retainer. And it's not for us,

540
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: it's for you because we want And I'm like, I'm

541
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: saying the exact things my mom and dad would say

542
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: to me.

543
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: Do you get surprised when it happens? Yeah, you get scared?

544
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: You said it's scary or it's just a little like

545
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: oh no, because you are always like I'm cooler than

546
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: my parents. Man, I'm like, he's full and cool and

547
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: then it's but just talk to everyone and yeah, they

548
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: share the same experiences. So I guess it's just weirdly inevitable.

549
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: I feel I don't have children, and I've told.

550
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: You, I think you'd be a fantastic.

551
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: Man, thank you. And I think I think that I

552
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: would be a good mom based on absolutely nothing.

553
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: I feel like rarely are people though ready. It's so funny,

554
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: like after we had our boy leaving the hospital, we

555
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: were like, they're just giving us this person.

556
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: And there's no one saying to you before they give

557
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: you the person. There no one's going, oh have you

558
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: have you read a manual? Do you know what you're doing?

559
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: Do you know what you need to do tonight? What

560
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: time X, Y or Z starts or which? Like it's

561
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: like figure it out, here you go and all human being,

562
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: a full human being. When you found out you were

563
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: having a kid, were you scared or what was your

564
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: emotion around that?

565
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: I was excited because I was I knew. I was like,

566
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: I want a child with Paula. I'm like, I just

567
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: know I'm in love with this person. I want a

568
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: child with this person. So if it happens, it happens,

569
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: and that's exciting, and it happened, you know, earlier than

570
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: we thought. But it's not like it was a surprise. Okay,

571
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: so okay, we were very excited. Okay, but it is

572
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: very I remember because you know, we looked pretty young.

573
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: We were I was, I believe thirty two when Paula

574
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: was pregnant. We looked kind of young, and I remember

575
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: we went and were like, we need an obgyn. So

576
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: we just kind of went and talked to this. Our

577
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: doctor was great. He was kind of an older la,

578
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: but he was like, it's going to cost money. Like

579
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: you look like two kids who were like, okay, we're good,

580
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: but it is It was just kind of like this

581
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: is crazy. It's just happening. Yeah, Like and then they're

582
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: giving us this child, and now we have this child.

583
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: But I remember bringing him home after the hospital and

584
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: then I was going to go to like CBS or

585
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: something and being like I should let her know. I'm like,

586
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to CBS.

587
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: Is that cool?

588
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you're obviously going to be here, you're recovering

589
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: and everything, but just being like, oh, there's always now

590
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: someone that is your responsibility right right from now on.

591
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: So that was kind of an interesting but it's the

592
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: greatest thing ever. It's weird that we spent so much

593
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: of our lives without this little dude.

594
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: You can't imagine it now, right, Yeah, Yeah, there.

595
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: Was a time where he just wasn't around, we didn't

596
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: know him. So do I love it? Yeah?

597
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: Do you? Okay? So someone I've seen if people have kids,

598
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: and I've seen them say yeah, we just felt like

599
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: maybe they have one or two or whatever, and they're like,

600
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: we just felt like our little family wasn't complete, so

601
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: we're having another. Was that a feeling? Did you feel

602
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: like it was incomplete in any way your relationship with

603
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: Paula again, you said like without without a kid, Like

604
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: because you said you knew you wanted to have a

605
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: kid with Paula. But if it happens, great, if it

606
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: doesn't happen, okay, did you feel like.

607
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: Not necessarily incomplete?

608
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: Okay?

609
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: Because we were like very happy, okay, okay, enjoying the

610
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: first years of a relationship.

611
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, now okay, and then I guess.

612
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: When it happened, it was like, oh, we are complete

613
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: in a new way. Okay, it's broaden the relationship. Now

614
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: we're a family.

615
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but how did you know, because that's fascinating to me.

616
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what that feeling is right, right, and

617
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: so what is it to look at especially hearing it

618
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: from a man, What is it to look at someone

619
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: and go, I know, I want to have a child

620
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: with this person? What is that feeling like? Can you

621
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: speak a little more about that?

622
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I just just guess you just know,

623
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: and you just kind of I just felt it, you know,

624
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, this would be exciting and someone

625
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: I guess that you would want to go on that

626
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: journey with got you you know what I mean? Because

627
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: it is a long journey and sometimes very hard. Obviously

628
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: the pregnancy. Paula loved being pregnant and remembers that time

629
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: in her life very fondly. But it is very hard

630
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: for the girl. The guy's just chilling, like do you

631
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: need some water? One time, she's like, I need I

632
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: need cake.

633
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 4: You get cake.

634
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: I brought it to her and she was like, oh

635
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: my god. The case she like described she goes like

636
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: there's a layer of frosting on the top, which is amazing.

637
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: She just like wax poetical. But she paul had a

638
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: C section and daring it. I was like, I could

639
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: never do that, like women are the strongest, the stronger

640
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: sex by I mean, I would just be like and

641
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: just talk about it constantly, like, look at what's look

642
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: at what I'm doing?

643
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: Do you see this? Do you see this? I took

644
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: the trash out? Did you see me taking.

645
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: Like we're gonna put all of your guts on a

646
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: what we take this baby out? Stuff him back in

647
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: and she's just like this little petite girl, just being

648
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: like on a roller.

649
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: But you're describing as making me never want to have

650
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: a child. Yes, but I'm gonna have one one way

651
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: or the other. And where's the camera. I'm gonna see

652
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: to it now. I picture you with a little sun

653
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: two round.

654
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean I think you'd be an amazing mother to

655
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: either a son or a daughters. Yes, of course, for

656
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: some reason, I have these visions of you and this

657
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: little dude.

658
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: You have foresight, Yes, tell me what else you see?

659
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: I see him he's dressed cool. I see him wearing

660
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: like an interesting fashion choice, like sunglasses, and you being like,

661
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with sunglasses. He loves him,

662
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: so I'm just don't But I told him he looks

663
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: absolutely weird.

664
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: But he likes him, so I planted those seeds of insecurity.

665
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: Kind of funny. Yeah, yeah, I don't know why that's

666
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: the image.

667
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. Well, okay, well, how

668
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: are you with Abbot's fashion choices? Do you care about fashion?

669
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: If you know me? In fashion, I have two pairs

670
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: of jeans and four shirts, and you have.

671
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: Two pairs of shoes and two pairs of like being

672
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: back in middle school where you get like one pair.

673
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: Those are new.

674
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not good with like adult stuff like that.

675
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: Like I'm so bad with fashion.

676
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: But when I think of being a parent, though, I

677
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 2: think it's pretty damn adult. Do you think you're good

678
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: at being a dead honestly by your assessment, I do.

679
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: I think Paula is the captain of the ship. Sure,

680
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: I love Paula fantastic mother. But I do think I'm

681
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: a good father.

682
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: I do.

683
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: Spend so much time with him, and I love spending

684
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: time with him and will make sure, especially because sometimes

685
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: you will be at home and you'll be like, do

686
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: you want to play this in my room? And sometimes

687
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: you'll be tired and might not necessarily want to. I'm like,

688
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: I'm going to end up having fun, right, and that's

689
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: only in instances where you know, if you're just tired

690
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: and kind of want to iway, just make sure to

691
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: enjoy our time together and we play catch, which is

692
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: some of my best memories with just like playing catch

693
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: and pretending it's it we're in the throes of a

694
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: baseball game. He really likes sports. He's willing into soccer,

695
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 1: and he really likes like the drama of sports.

696
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

697
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not much.

698
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,479
Speaker 2: Time left, right. Did you guys watch the Olympics play?

699
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he loved it. He was all in gymnastics. He's like,

700
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: this is amazing. He was like, I can't believe they're doing.

701
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: This right right, Look at the thus.

702
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: You're doing young the Japanese team is. He was just

703
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: amazed that they look so young and we're just capable

704
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: of such feats of strength. Yeah, it is pretty fantastic.

705
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: It is incredible. I got to see two and I

706
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 2: was jaw was on the floor.

707
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 1: That woman is flying simoon bioles. That woman is fine.

708
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: That is the fully in the sky legitimately, where you're.

709
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: Like, what just doing things and they're so just ripped

710
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: and so in control of their balance equilibrium.

711
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: It's rekable. Gigantic amount like gigantic amounts of body awareness.

712
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: I want will you please make sure that's.

713
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: A gigantic amount of the I will actually will you

714
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: wear it? Will you add it to the rota?

715
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: It needs to be small though you want to tidy anything.

716
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: I guess medium's fine. But you put me in a

717
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: large T shirt.

718
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: I look thirteen, okay, I mean and right now you

719
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: look sixteen.

720
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: Yay.

721
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: Wait, you say you're a good dad. I love that.

722
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: And you said it is that kind of arrogant arrogant fact. No,

723
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: I think that's it's fantastic because I'm always I find

724
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: myself really curious about what constitutes being a good dad.

725
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: Interesting from your perspective, and based on what you just said,

726
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: it sounds like spending quality time together, which, by the way,

727
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: is a love language. Okay, yes, okay.

728
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: Is learning him to know too that he can communicate

729
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: friends even if he thinks that we won't respond, well, like, yes,

730
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: we'll be We might be angry about something in the moment,

731
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: are annoyed, but it'll never have Your life is not over,

732
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: you know. We never want him to feel like like

733
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: trapped in something like for instance, like if you hated

734
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: your school. You know, you just couldn't. I mean, he

735
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: loves his school, sure, thankfully, but if he was ever

736
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: in a situation where like people are mean, we just

737
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: don't want him to feel like I'm trapped here. This

738
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: is my existence, right right, you can come to us

739
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: and we can. We can. It's like solve the problem,

740
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: right right, So definitely trying to open the channels of

741
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: communication and.

742
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 5: Definitely trying to be like, what's up, you have any

743
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 5: crushes at schoolb Right, You're like, I'm sure he'd talk

744
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 5: with his friends more, but I think, yeah, so that

745
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 5: aspect of like communication and stuff.

746
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: And I tried to Paula's she's read this book. I

747
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: should read it sounds really good. I don't even know

748
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 1: the name of it. It's this really cool book anyway.

749
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: It just and I'm paraphrasing and I'm sure giving a

750
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: very vague, not polished summary of one of the tenants

751
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: of this book, But it's all about like sharing personal

752
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: stories when you're during parenting milestones or aspects like lecturing

753
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: about something or they're going through something, rather than the

754
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: same old like well, you know what, I can't believe

755
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: that kid was mean to you because I think you're great,

756
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: or just being like, hey, when I was your age,

757
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: this kid did this or I remember I think it

758
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: was first grade. He had just started at a school.

759
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: He like kind of tripped and fell like in front

760
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: of the school, and I think he was bummed out.

761
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: But he was pretty young, so he wasn't like I'm

762
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: humiliated because he like scraped up his face. But then

763
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: but he also didn't love just completely face playing.

764
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 2: Right peer's new school.

765
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but and then I just remember I shared, like, dude,

766
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: when I was in third grade, in the middle of class,

767
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: I fully vomited all over myself out of nowhere.

768
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 2: And this is a true story. You have a sensitive tomb,

769
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 2: like what.

770
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: Happened gigantic amounts of body.

771
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: The front on the back, sensitive tomb.

772
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: But anyway, I was just what but like mid day,

773
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: like around one or something.

774
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: I was just like, you really remember that.

775
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,479
Speaker 1: I feel oh yeah, it's he felt he felt weird.

776
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 1: And literally, I think we're reading something as a class

777
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: so someone would.

778
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: Read, Yeah, we did popcorn reading sixth grade. We were

779
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: still doing popcorn reading.

780
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: Anyway, I was chilling in third grade and it was

781
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: just like so fast.

782
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: It was just.

783
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: And I just sat there paralyzed in fear, and I'm like,

784
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: maybe someone won't notice. And we sat in we sat

785
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: in clusters. Okay, okay, so like groups of four and

786
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: I was in a group with three girls and like

787
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 1: one girl was like looked up from her reading, like ew.

788
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: Michael threw up on himself and then it spread like wildfire.

789
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 1: And my teacher was like, okay, go to the office.

790
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: And the poor trouble. Not the nurses, not the nurses officers,

791
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: I say, principal. And in the office, I was like,

792
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: what why are you trying to the office. That was

793
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: such a big deal in elementary is getting set to

794
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 2: the office.

795
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh my anyway, I threw your myself and

796
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: the teacher was like, Courtney, can you escort Michael to

797
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: the front office? And this poor girl had to walk

798
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: me from our class too. And this was in so

799
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: cal So it was outdoors, it was proper door and

800
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 1: then everything was out orange property.

801
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.

802
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: So we're just walking to the front office and I

803
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: remember her like, well, at least like you get to

804
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: go home, I mean, you don't have to be at

805
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: school anymore, like trying to make the situation. I was like, thanks, anyway,

806
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go to school. That it took

807
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: like a couple of days and I felt better I

808
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: didn't want to go did all this? Yeah, it's like

809
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: just trying to share personal anecdotes as much as possible.

810
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: Well, they say, though, by sharing personal anecdotes, who can

811
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: get someone else to also open up? That's part of

812
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: the like what encourages vulnerability as someone feeling like, Okay,

813
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: you've shared, so I can share.

814
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 5: Yes?

815
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: Did you just going back to your relationship with your

816
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 2: dad though? Did you feel like he shared personal anecdotes

817
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: or do you not know too much about his own

818
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 2: experience in school and growing up question?

819
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: I think he told stories, but I don't remember any

820
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: stories of like man, when I went on a date

821
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: with a girl, like first that broad class, but none

822
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: of that, although that would be weird for anything that

823
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: I was going to say.

824
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: Do dads talk to their sons about That's not no

825
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 2: do Anyway.

826
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: My dad was talking about one of his ex girlfriend's breasts,

827
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: as all duds do.

828
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if all dads do, but again, don't

829
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: know what dads do. That's why I'm talking to you guys, now,

830
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: did you that made me sad? No is that sad.

831
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: I don't want people to feel sad.

832
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to how to night positive? You were like,

833
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: but I don't know what dad's.

834
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 2: Do I don't. I'm so fascinating.

835
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: Is there a specific time growing up there?

836
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: I'll be asking the question, do not ask me any questions.

837
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: I'll be asking the questions. Hell fucking know, just what.

838
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: Specific time that you remember being like?

839
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: I really wish I had no and no And that's sincerely.

840
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 2: I know the movies would suggest otherwise, And I've tried

841
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: to discern for myself if it's a function of the

842
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: fact that my parents got divorced when I was a

843
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: literal baby, so there I didn't have the experience of like, oh,

844
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: a dad and he was in our house and now

845
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: dad's moved out because parents got divorced. So I was like,

846
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's that. I don't know if

847
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 2: it's because I did have so many uncles and male

848
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: figures in my life that I didn't feel the neglect.

849
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a function of my faith.

850
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I've wondered why I don't feel

851
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: like the movies say I'm supposed to feel.

852
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't feel that, like you're constantly needing

853
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: a reckoning.

854
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: Right, And I wouldn't be ashamed if I did. It

855
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: would make almost more sense to me if I did.

856
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: But no, I don't. I'm so fascinated by dads because

857
00:44:53,640 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't know what they with the dad. Yeah,

858
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: I just don't know what a life with a dad

859
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: is like and how mine would look different. I'm fascinated

860
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: to hear from people what their experiences are with their

861
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: dads and what they are like as dads, which obviously

862
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: is the whole premise of the podcast. But I'm like,

863
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: it's just a fascinating exchange to me because I'm like.

864
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: Child with a gentleman and it's a boy, as you said,

865
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: and you're just watching him with your child, Like what

866
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: are you that's are you fathering?

867
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: Yes? I mean, but the thing is And then I

868
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: saw it. I did to be fair too, because even

869
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: as I say that, and people like my cousin, I'm

870
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 2: two nieces, so my brother is a dad, very present dad.

871
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: My I did see present dads, right, So like, I

872
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: guess I'm being hyperbolic when I'm like, I don't know

873
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: what dads do. I think the best, the more accurate

874
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: thing for me to say is like, oh, I'm curious

875
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: what my life would be have been, like yeah, with

876
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: a dad, But I'm and I'm more curious to hear

877
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 2: about people's relationships with their dads because I think they

878
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: can be complicated. Yeah, and those are like, that's just

879
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: an interesting dynamic to me. But do you care if

880
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 2: Abbot counts you as like a friend? Does that matter

881
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: to you?

882
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: Interesting? I mean, we do a lot of we'll play

883
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: video games together and stuff, But I think ultimately it's

884
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: you know, it's good for them to view you as

885
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: a parent, you know what I mean. Although I think

886
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: it's fun to do stuff that friends would do, like

887
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: play video games and so like share parts of his

888
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: life that you would share with friends.

889
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

890
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but ultimately, you know, it gets weird if you're like,

891
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: we're just friends, man, and hey, don't do that right? Right?

892
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: Or do this?

893
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 5: Ye?

894
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: This is why that's important.

895
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, between you and Paula like one or who's more

896
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: of the disciplinarian And do you have a disciplinarian bone

897
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: in your body?

898
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: Definitely? In terms of dude, clean up your dishes, don't

899
00:46:58,680 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: just leave them out here.

900
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: I see I have to do it.

901
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: You will, yeah, I mean there'll be moments of where

902
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: it gets you know serious. I remember one time I

903
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: haven't yelled that much. I just remember once yelling. It

904
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: was about like, I don't know, probably something with shut

905
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: off the iPad. You've had enough games. Remember raising my

906
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: voice and seeing him just kind of go, whoa, this

907
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: is new. And I could see it in his eyes like, oh,

908
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: he'll remember, you know, those weird memories from childhood you have.

909
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, he'll remember that. I can tell you

910
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: could just see it like in print within his brain,

911
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: like firing off. But I mean, if I have raised

912
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: my voice, like a few minutes later, it'll be like, hey,

913
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: this is why I raised my voice, you know, and

914
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: kind of in a calmer environment, just kind of reckon that.

915
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that first time when you saw like you saw

916
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 2: it in his eyes him go, oh my gosh, that's different.

917
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 2: I've never had Dad engage with me that way. Did

918
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: you feel like worried, remorse? Like, what did you feel

919
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: like if that's the first time you've done it for me,

920
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 2: I can imagine I'm like, oh, no, have I damaged

921
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: this first? Like, what did you feel that doesn't have

922
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: to be your answer, but I'm like, or did you know, Hey,

923
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 2: we'll have a conversation later.

924
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't too worried because it wasn't like insane, It

925
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: wasn't like throwing stuff. It was just kind of like,

926
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, coming out of moment where I don't know,

927
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: there'll be moments where kids are like try and test you,

928
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: like sure, they're coming into their own They're like, I'm

929
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: gonna try this out.

930
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: Whatever, like teasing, disrespect the boundary. They gotta find the

931
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: boundary line. That's what happens every living creature.

932
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 1: It was born out of one of those moments.

933
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's why I So then you felt it

934
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 2: wasn't too intentional. And I'm not even trying to paint

935
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 2: that picture. But if you like saw it, did you

936
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: saw it and you were like it's fine, I'm like, good,

937
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 2: he's just going to remember you can't cross that line?

938
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: Is that you never love like a moment where you

939
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: kind of yell, but it was just more kind of fascinating, like, oh,

940
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: he'll I could tell oh, he'll remember that.

941
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: Do you remember ever your dad raising his voice and

942
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: the moment where you go, oh, I can't cross this

943
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 2: line or this is where the boundary falls.

944
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: So I remember he would sneeze really loudly. That was

945
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: his way of remember he said, Dad, burn it. I

946
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: don't know where that comes from, Like if he spills something, dad,

947
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: and you'd say that really burns me. I think I

948
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: heard him say shit a couple of times, like, but

949
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: it was always kind of like I'm using ship, you

950
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like enough.

951
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: Of this shit, Like I said shit, all right, So

952
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: you don't feel like you don't think that you ever

953
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: had a given that your dad was so mild man.

954
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: And you don't.

955
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 2: You're not really remembering a moment where you were like, oh,

956
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 2: that's a boundary and let me not cross that line

957
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 2: with him, right right, that's not sticking out to you.

958
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,959
Speaker 2: I don't and that's okay, I think, So okay. Would

959
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: about sex by the way or no, no, I just.

960
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: The internet wasn't really around. Yeah, so, but I just

961
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,479
Speaker 1: knew we had like a we had like a health

962
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: unit in school. I remember my dad broaching the subject

963
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: like have you been taught about the ye you know,

964
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: between men and women. I'm like, yeah, I know, I know,

965
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: I'm good.

966
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: You don't want to know everything that's it's okay? Is

967
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 2: eleven twelve eleven?

968
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, he knows they unit that.

969
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: Unit should have you tried to talk to him about

970
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: any of that.

971
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: I think it's come up like here and there, but

972
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: never like to in depth. But I think he'll like

973
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: ask questions or his friends will like talk about something. Sure,

974
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: like kids now have such access to but do.

975
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 2: You broach the subject? And if you do try to

976
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 2: broach it okay? Then is he is he dismissive like

977
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 2: you were at the time, Like at his age, they're

978
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 2: like curious.

979
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: And I think we do it. Anytime we would talk

980
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: about it, it's in a less awkward as least awkward

981
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: way as possible. It's not like, okay, like my dad

982
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: was pretty awkward with that kind of things. Okay, because

983
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,959
Speaker 1: like no one likes this. I feel weird. I feel weird.

984
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: But I think we try to be just like casual

985
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 1: if we talk about it. It's not like we're walking

986
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: around the house talking about sex. But if it comes

987
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: up or like you know, in a we'll be watching

988
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: a movie, there'll be a line that like relates to something,

989
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: and it's like we'll just kind of explain it casually

990
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: rather than making it like taboo, because that's when I

991
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: think you start to run in to problems where it's

992
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: like sex is this secret bad things. Yeah, is when

993
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: you kind of it manifests in not a healthy way

994
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: when they're older. Yeah.

995
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I have no I can't say for sure,

996
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 2: but I sure I feel like that makes sense. And

997
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: it's I feel like we are part of a generation

998
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: now that is more open in terms of the conversations

999
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: concerning sex, and it's not so wild to be more

1000
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: forthcoming up in those conversations, right right, Yeah, do is

1001
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 2: there something that's really important to you to impart.

1002
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: To abbit kindness which I think we've done well. Like

1003
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: he's a very conscientious kid, like he will go out

1004
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: of his way, or like I think to be very

1005
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: empathetic and be like, no one wants to partner up

1006
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: with this kid in this project, that I will go

1007
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: out of my way. Yeah, things like that that we

1008
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: hear and yeah, have good manners, be respectful and a

1009
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: gentleman too. Yeah when he eventually wants to date. Yeah,

1010
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: so that kind of thing. But it's mostly just like

1011
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: to be a good person. Yeah, because in the there

1012
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: were moments, especially you know in the beginning, like this

1013
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: kid was mean to me, or this kid's like bullying,

1014
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: you know, as all kids do. It's some point in

1015
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: elementary school when they're younger and you try to be like,

1016
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: but it just you're just repeating what your parents say.

1017
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: But it's true. You're like, that's not about you, that's

1018
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: about them. They're insecure, so you try and convey that

1019
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: as much as possible. So we're I guess that's all

1020
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: to say. We're just trying to make him a well rounded,

1021
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: right kind, good person. But it's funny though. It's funny

1022
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: all kids do this where they test you and it's

1023
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: like I wasn't doing that. You're like you clearly, then

1024
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: what happened? Did a ghost do it?

1025
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 2: I mean right? Maybe?

1026
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: And it's like you want me to be rather than

1027
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 1: you leaving that in your room that a ghost came

1028
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: in and did it?

1029
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: Right?

1030
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: Okay, So I end every episode of The Pods a

1031
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: bad episode. I think it was a good episode, And.

1032
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: What is it?

1033
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 2: A good episode?

1034
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: But fatherly advice? Don't walk to your car too far

1035
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: alone late at night? Oh right? Yeah, I mean how

1036
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: can handle yourself? Yeah? I mean if I tried to

1037
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: accost you late at night in a dark part of

1038
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: the city. I think you would beat my ass. Sure, however, Sure,

1039
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: just want to make sure you're safe.

1040
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1041
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: Don't do the thing of like, it's just a few blocks.

1042
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: I can make it, okay, you know what I mean?

1043
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: Yes, that's how.

1044
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: It's too far just in an area. I don't know.

1045
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: You would have to be discerning about that.

1046
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 2: Thanks, Mike.

1047
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: Wait, so how far sand that you deserve the best?

1048
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: Don't settle Thanks bullshit, especially in any future relationships. Not

1049
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: that that was your thing.

1050
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, yes, No, I understand, like received, there's a.

1051
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: Lot of bullshit here. I guess I'll just have to

1052
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: put up with it.

1053
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: No, the bullshit creeps up on you and then one

1054
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 2: day you're like, oh, oh, little bullshit here, little bullshit there,

1055
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 2: little bullshit there. Oh no, I'm sitting a bullshit Yeah

1056
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: now it's I'm just surrounding. I'm breathing bullshit because it

1057
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 2: crept up. But I do have to ask you a question,

1058
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: because I actually really love what you just said about

1059
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: not walking to my car late at night by myself.

1060
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: Or walking anywhere I obviously can walk alone. I don't know,

1061
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: it's those judgment calls.

1062
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 2: Okay, but just be smart about it is what you're saying, okay,

1063
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: And I appreciate that, Dad, I do. Here's a question,

1064
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 2: because you said the thing about walking to my car.

1065
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 2: I'll probably be getting a car soon again, when I'm

1066
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: buying a car, do you have any advice on what

1067
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: I should look out for? Like is there a way

1068
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: I should test drive the car? Is there a dealership

1069
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 2: I should go to, or dealership I should avoid? What's

1070
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 2: your official.

1071
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: Word on the least car guy in the universe?

1072
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 2: Well, here, thank you. My questions don't always so the

1073
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 2: questions the advice I ask for each okay, the advice

1074
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: I ask from each Dad is not a function of

1075
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: my thinking that Dad would be good at giving that advice.

1076
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 2: And I say that was little to no respect for you.

1077
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: I don't respect you as a man, I don't respect

1078
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: you as a father.

1079
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: So but I'm going to get a car soon and

1080
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 2: you're the dad of the day and today, Dad, the

1081
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: advice I need is on getting a car and what

1082
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 2: I need to look out for, and any piece of

1083
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 2: advice a dealership to go to, if you know a dealer,

1084
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 2: if there's someone I should avoid because they're sneaky and

1085
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: good job you're making it up. I'm really going to

1086
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 2: buy a car.

1087
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: Well, any dealership you go to, it's going to be

1088
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: the best car.

1089
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: Okay, right do you think so?

1090
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: Well, they're all going to be like all those others

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00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: whatever than this than this.

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00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 2: Okay.

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00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: I'm really swear I say that because I'm always really

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00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 1: swayed by that. Like whatever I'm in, I'm like, you're.

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00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, this Jim says it's the best, and Jim said.

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00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: And then the next one is like, oh yeah, this

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00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: is actually I'll just buy whatever they're saying. Gullible Dad, Yes,

1098
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: but I guess I would say yes. If there's a

1099
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: car you like, get that one.

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00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 2: That's your advice dad, that's your member. Okay, that's there's

1101
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 2: a car I like, get you one? Okay.

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00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: Is there a type of car you like?

1103
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: I love a range Rover?

1104
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: You do?

1105
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: I look like a BMW girl?

1106
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: More Audi?

1107
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: Thank you? I don't even know. Okay, Well, Mikey, that.

1108
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: Sounds like a song. I've got that Audi ass with

1109
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: the beep.

1110
00:57:55,040 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: Going, keep going with them Toyota titties and in come on,

1111
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 2: what's my waistline?

1112
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: Like, what's my I'm not saying you. I'm saying this

1113
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: is a jo.

1114
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 2: I didn't think you were talking about my He's like,

1115
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not commenting on her body. I'm talking

1116
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 2: about oh god. Anyway, Mikey, this has been so fantastic.

1117
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 2: I love you, dearly, Mikey. Okay, do you have anything

1118
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: you want to plug? I love it this seriously, Mikey,

1119
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: be serious.

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Speaker 1: Ones and fifty coming.

1121
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 2: Up, Season fifty of Saturday Night Live.

1122
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: That's a big one.

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00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 2: That's a big one, and it is coming up very

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00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: soon in.

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Speaker 1: An interesting year.

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00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 2: It's gonna fifty. Yeah, that's a big deal.

1127
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: Okay, big fiftieth celebrations. Okay, yeah, so it'll be a

1128
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: fun season and the fiftieth celebration in February.

1129
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, Mikey.

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Speaker 1: I love you, Thank you.

1131
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: I'll wait you more.

1132
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: And I think you're wonderful and insanely talented and I

1133
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: am in awe of you on the rag.

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00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 2: Thank you, Mikey. Thanks Dat is a headgun podcast created

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Speaker 2: and hosted by me Aga Wodham. The show is produced

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00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: and edited by Anita Flores and engineered by Anita Flores

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00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: and Anya Kanevskaya, with executive producer Emma Foley. Katie Moose

1138
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 2: is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Jason

1139
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: Mathney for our show art and Farismonshi for our theme song.

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Speaker 2: For more podcasts by Headgum, visit headgum dot com, or

1141
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 2: wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Leave us a

1142
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: review on Apple Podcasts, and maybe, just maybe we'll read

1143
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: it on a future episode.