1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: This is the OTP. I'm Amy Wells, and I am 2 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: joined by draft gurus Ret Brian and coach mac Dave McGinnis. 3 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: We are getting ready for the twenty twenty five NFL Draft. 4 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: You guys have spent months watching tape, sifting through numbers 5 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: and measurements and workouts and all of these statistics. You 6 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: have gathered stories and interesting little nuggets, and now is 7 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: the time to put all this information together like this 8 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: is it? The draft is in days and I would 9 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: like to create for the ot people a one stop 10 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: shop where they can get all of the information about 11 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: the top prospects at each position in the NFL Draft 12 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: and they can do without information what they like. But 13 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: I but you know, obviously the goal of the OTP 14 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: is to keep everybody informed, make sure they know who's 15 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: who in the zoo, make sure we know what is 16 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: going on. And so you guys are here and I 17 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: have asked you to put together a list of your 18 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: guys's top prospects at each position, and you so graciously 19 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: did it, and so I would like to roll through that. 20 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: Are you guys cool with us? 21 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: Let's go, let's go. We share your before we get started, 22 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 2: and in word, this is This is a lot of 23 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: work that we've done and we're still in the process 24 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: of putting our draft board together, which it always changes. 25 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: But we're not talking about prospects here that we think 26 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: the Titans are going to take. No, we're we are 27 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 2: just this. This is an overview of who's out there, 28 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: and it's not only the top people you ask us 29 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: just to go through because the draft is not just 30 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: about the first round, and especially in this draft, Amy, 31 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: and I know you're well versed in this. You were 32 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: at the combine for the whole time too. This is 33 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: a really strong what you call belly of the draft 34 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: with these you know a lot of players that won't 35 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: be first round picks. There's only thirty two first round picks, 36 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: but there's two hundred and seventy nine players taken, So 37 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: we're going to cover a gamut of players. Not saying 38 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: these are the people the Titans are gonna take, but 39 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: just in what we've done so far, these are the 40 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: guys a little bit to kind of stick out to us. 41 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: These are the names that you can throw out at 42 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: a party and sound like you know what's going on, and. 43 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: Not only sound like you will know what you're going on, and. 44 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: We really like that. I do want to pull back 45 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: the curtain just a hair. When do you guys start 46 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: working on this? 47 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: We started, We started about six days after the season 48 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: was over. 49 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 3: Whoa, I've been working every week since. 50 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: Since, I mean mid January. 51 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's and look, the real draft preparation for 52 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: clubs they're already working on twenty twenty six. Wow, it's 53 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: a year. It's a year ahead. All those years that 54 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: I was a coach, you know, it was a year ahead. 55 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: And now as a coach, you don't start until your 56 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: season's over. Also, but your scouting departments they're always a 57 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: year ahead. So the things that we get are things 58 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: that you can look off of tape. That's why I 59 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: spend the whole week at the Combine and Lucas Oil 60 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: watching all these drills, talking to all the position coaches. 61 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 2: You know, do that. The thing that I miss from 62 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: the three decades that I was coaching is I don't 63 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: get to talk to these players now, like we're sitting 64 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: here talking with one another, you know, don't get to 65 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: interview them. And I don't get to go to school workouts. 66 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: I don't do that. I just don't have time. I 67 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: can't do that. That's a huge piece of this puzzle now, 68 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: you know. And also the thirty visits that you set up. 69 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: All this stuff that we're doing right now is extremely important. 70 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: But those face to face interviews as you're narrowing down 71 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: people that you think that you might want to take 72 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: and it runs the gamut of all of them, that's 73 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: what that's We don't get to do that, but we 74 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: can dive into, you know, the particulars, the ret nuggets 75 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: that he digs out. I mean, teams hire people to 76 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: go out and do this, three hundred days a year 77 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: to do this. He's really good at this. I've watched 78 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: tape and know how to evaluate tape. I've learned in 79 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: a lot of years, you know, doing this. 80 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: So anyway, that's what we're doing and I'm excited. I'm 81 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: excited to hear your guys' lists, and Rhett, I would 82 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: like for you to kick this off. I would like 83 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: to hear some of your top safeties in this upcoming draft. 84 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 3: Couple three that I really like that are certainly at 85 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: the top of the Macrett board. Malachi Starks from Georgia 86 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 3: six feet seven eights inches, one ninety seven hands nine 87 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: and a half arm, thirty one and five eighths wing 88 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: almost seventy nine star safety in that defense. And these 89 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: guys that I'm mentioned you're gonna hear a lot about 90 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: and you have seen a lot because especially with the 91 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: twelve team college football playoff, they played a lot of football. Right. 92 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: Can I stopped this a minute? 93 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 3: Yep? 94 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: For ot people, she's worried, why why? This is exactly 95 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: what you do in draft meetings. 96 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good point. 97 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: That's exactly what you do in draft meetings. In other words, 98 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: who's ever in charge it will sit up there and say, okay, rhet, 99 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: give me your safeties. And then that's why you write reports. 100 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: And so then everybody else puts everything down. They sit 101 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: and listen to your report because that's the time that 102 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 2: you can. So this is exactly what goes on in 103 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 2: draft rooms in the prep for this. Now, the discussions 104 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: who's who and the zoo those types of things that 105 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: takes place later. But the thing that you're doing now 106 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: that rehtt started out reading all that's the first thing 107 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: that happens nowadays. What they do they put it up 108 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: on a big screen. Oh yeah, it's a huge screen everything, 109 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: but you still read your report. When I first started 110 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: doing this a lot of years ago, you couldn't talk 111 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: about a player unless you'd written a report. If you 112 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: were in the room and you didn't write a report, 113 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: you listened, you didn't talk. 114 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: You don't get a vote. 115 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 2: None. None. I could tell you some some really bad 116 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: stories about anyway, we won't. But this is this is 117 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: perfect because this is exactly what goes on in a 118 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: in a in a pre draft meetings where the head 119 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: of the department you say, rent, give me your safeties. 120 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm the head of the department. 121 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: Now you are the head of the department. 122 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: Keep going, rep I thought something was on fire, so 123 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: that was a lot better than what I thought was 124 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: about to happen. 125 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: Malachi tested pretty well at the combine four to five 126 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: oh and the forty first ten yards one five to 127 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 3: one uh three condrill seven two six thirty three inch 128 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 3: vertical leap, but a very important part of that Bulldog's defense, 129 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 3: and that's why he's in one of the top pods 130 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: in our board. Another guy that played a lot of 131 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 3: college football and for the Notre Dame Fighting Irish's is 132 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: Avier Watts five eleven and three quarters two hundred and 133 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: four pounds, hands eight and five eighths, arm thirty one 134 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: and a quarter, wing seventy one and a half. Now, 135 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: he did not test at the Combine. Again, played a 136 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: lot of college football, being that deep into the college 137 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: football playoffs with twelve teams involved, Kevin Winston Junior is 138 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: still going to be a top prospect people are going 139 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: to be looking at coming off of injury. Six to 140 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: one and a half, two point fifteen, hands nine and 141 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 3: a half, thirty two and a half inch arms, winging 142 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: eighty and seven eight, So a long prospect there. He 143 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: did not test the Combine because he's still coming off 144 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: of injury. 145 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: Couple of questions here, Malachi Starks, he's a guy who's 146 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: known for his versatility. Do you think that that versatility, 147 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: in being able to play it at a variety of 148 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: different positions is going to have an impact on his 149 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: stock with teams? 150 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean you're talking about playing a star position, 151 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 3: just like we've seen some these guys play the star 152 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: coming out of Alabama's defense. I mean your position versatility. 153 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: I mean, the more you can do. 154 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: Coach mac Well, the star position for for I mean this, this, 155 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: this is Nick Saban's defense. And then of course everybody 156 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: that's worked for Nick Saban. It's spread throughout, not in 157 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: the Southeastern Conference, but but collegiate football, and the Star 158 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: position is a hybrid is a hybrid position as a 159 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: as a walk away linebacker, walk away linebacker, slash slot defender. 160 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: They're asked to do a lot of things. They're they're 161 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,599 Speaker 2: asked to be able to read, uh, you know, to 162 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: ken diagnosed runs. They're also asked to cover Manda Man. 163 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: They're also asked a lot of times to be able 164 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: to roll back into the into the into a half field, 165 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: or sometimes rolled back into a post. It's a it's 166 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: a very versatile position. That's normally where the best K 167 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 2: and D or key and diagnosed player on their defense is. 168 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: And because of the way the offenses are spread out, 169 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: So when you hear someone say he played the Star, 170 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: know that his football IQ is probably pretty high. 171 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: Kevin Winston, you mentioned coming off of that injury, he's 172 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: such a physical player. Is that something that will be 173 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: taken into account after you see a guy coming back 174 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: from an injury, There's always some question marks. What's he 175 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: going to be like? Is he gonna be okay? When's 176 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: he gonna be able to contribute all of that stuff. 177 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: But when there's such a physical player, does that almost 178 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: make up for the other stuff? 179 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 3: Depends on the injury, And I forget what his injury 180 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 3: is off top of my head right now. But yeah, 181 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: I mean, look, you want a guy that puts his 182 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: face in the briar patches, Coach Mack would say, right, right, 183 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: But but yeah, that is you're you're always looking for 184 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: a guy that is not afraid of contact. 185 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: The thing that happens though nowadays that that is so 186 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: important for people to understand because modern medicine now, especially 187 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: with athletic injuries, is so far advanced. Used to be, 188 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: if you if you tore your acl let's just say 189 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: this playing football, you were basically done because they opened 190 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: you up like Frank Canstein. They you know, I mean 191 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: you had you had a huge zipper from from the 192 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: top of your leg all the way down. Then they 193 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: put you to immobilize you in a cast. So when 194 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: you're that cast came off, all the atrophy had taken place. 195 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: It was really it was really close to a death sentence. 196 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: Now arthroscrophics, I mean it's incredible for that for the 197 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: achilles for a lot, for a lot of these injuries 198 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: now just because of the technological advance in surgical medicine, 199 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: it makes it makes a lot of these injuries not 200 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: as catastrophic or his career ending as they used to be. 201 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: All right, Mac, let's hear your list. Who are some 202 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: of your top safeties to know? 203 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: Nick emm and war from South Carolina, and I mean, now, 204 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: this guy is a is a physical freak. Tests off 205 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: the chart sixty three two and twenty pounds hand size nine, 206 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 2: which is important. I mean he can grab you and 207 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: choke you, which is important. You got thirty two and 208 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 2: a half arm length, wingspan of eighty his combine testing, 209 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: he blew the roof off of Lucas Oil. Forty yard 210 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: dash four three eight, which is from a guy that 211 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: size a ten yard split. We've talked about ten yards 212 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: splits before, as a one four nine, which is which 213 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: is in a way elite category. Uh, bench press twenty 214 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: reps as a as a big long dude to twenty reps. 215 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: So you know he's got really good upper body strength. 216 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: Vertical jump of forty three inches, I mean that's NBA stuff, 217 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: and a broad jump of eleven six so you can 218 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,599 Speaker 2: talk about a big explosive athlete. He's built like a linebacker. 219 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: He's he's got rare fluid movement and speed for a 220 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 2: player of his size. He's really an instant athlete. You 221 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: watch him, he's an instant athlete for that size. He 222 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: uses his length a lot when he's in when he's 223 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: in press coverage. He's a good anticipator. You can, i mean, 224 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: on his breaks and stuff. He's very very quick. He's 225 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: he's a he's a quick recon guy. He recognizes stuff 226 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: very very well. Of course, with his size, physicality, aim, 227 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 2: he's an excellent, excellent run defender. His tackling is exactly 228 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: what you want. Doesn't miss, doesn't miss many tackles, and 229 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 2: he's got to catch radius. And he's got good ball skills. 230 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: He's got elaite ball skills. Okay, so what you're looking 231 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: at is a very physically gifted player. If you want 232 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: to look at his minuses because of his length, because 233 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: of this, he's not you know, sometimes his back pedal 234 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: is not as fluid as you would like, but he 235 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: won't be backpedaling a lot. As to where you were 236 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: going to play him. I say he's built like a linebacker. 237 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: You could probably move him around quite a bit as 238 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 2: a defensive signal caller. A guy like this you can 239 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: play against a lot of different personnel groups because he's 240 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: big enough and physical enough to be able to drop 241 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: down as an overhang backer and play the run against 242 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 2: a twelve personnel which is two tight ends if you 243 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: want to do that. Or he can play in space. 244 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: Andrew Macouba from Texas five to eleven, one hundred and 245 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: eighty six pounds again, arm length of thirty, hand size 246 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 2: of nine, which is I mean it's important defensively, you 247 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: got to have mits so that you can grab these 248 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: guys and hold on to them. I mean, wingspan of 249 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: seventy five four four five and forty one five to 250 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 2: three with a ten yard split. He he had three 251 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: years of experience playing nickel, he switched over to safety. 252 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 2: He's got good range, he makes plays on the ball, 253 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: five interceptions, six pass breakups in twenty twenty four. Good recognition. 254 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: He's got a fluid pedal, because now he's five to eleven, 255 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: I mean, so center gravity's a lot lower fluid, a 256 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 2: fluid pedal, a good efficient hip transition. He's a transitional 257 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,359 Speaker 2: player now. His size, he's pretty average with that size 258 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: and a lot of times because of that lack of 259 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: size that he'll get stuck on blocks. But Andrew mccooba 260 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: from Texas good solid player. The last one that I've 261 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: got is Jonash Sanker from Virginia, six foot, two hundred 262 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: and six pounds, nine and three quarter hands. Again, all 263 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: of these guys, you know, when you can see they're 264 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: tackling is good because they've got big enough mits to 265 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: put on you. Arm link thirty two and a quarter 266 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: seventy seven, wingspan four four eight forty thirty six and 267 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: a half vertical ten in ten eight broad. So this 268 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 2: is this guy's got good strength. He's got, he's gotta, 269 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: he's gonna you look at him personally, he's got he's 270 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: pretty muscular, he's pretty defined with his with his bill 271 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy three solo tackles in twenty twenty three, 272 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: which led the FBS. He can keep pace with downfield 273 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: vertical uh stuff. He uses his length, he's got, he's 274 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: got a great trigger. A great trigger means he can 275 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: transition from back to forward and get into the fray 276 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: pretty pretty quickly. Sometimes with with really fluid receivers. He's 277 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: a little bit sticky, you know, you know at times 278 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: with his movement and then he he comes in a bit, 279 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: He's a little comes in sometimes with his angles a 280 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: little bit hot. He's a little bit reckless with those 281 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: angles sometimes. But uh uh, like the player, there will 282 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: be a place for him in somebody's defense. 283 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: Mac with so many guys with impressive physical attributes, does 284 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: that just come down to a kind of a defensive 285 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: coordinators and a coach of flavor of what they're looking 286 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: for to fit into their scheme. 287 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: There's a difference between playing in the post, being the 288 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: middle of the field safety, being a too deep safety, 289 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: or being a guy as some of these guys we've 290 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: talked about that can transition from back to front to 291 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: move down. So yeah, I mean, it depends what defensive 292 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: coaches want, Aimy, because as much as as offenses change 293 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: personnel groups, that's why when you hear me broadcasting the game, 294 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: I'm always telling you the personnel groups that the offense 295 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: has put into plays down, you know, down by down 296 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: by down, play by play by play, because defensive coaches 297 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: have to match personnel. As a defensive coach, you're reacting 298 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: to matching personnel with what the offense is putting on 299 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,359 Speaker 2: the field. So the more guys that you have defensively, 300 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: especially in the back end, that have multiple things that 301 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: they can do, the less people you're going to have 302 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: to substitute, and the more that you can you can 303 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: call defenses as to where guys can do multiple things, 304 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: You're doing what we call same ass same as defensively. 305 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: You may be playing with some different against different personnel, 306 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: but your responsibilities can kind of mail together and be 307 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: the same. 308 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: Reht. I don't want to blow past any good ret nuggets. 309 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: So if there's anything you hear and for the ot people, 310 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: just a reminder of ret nugget is a good piece 311 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: of backstory or information that gives you a fuller picture 312 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: of who this person is and what that makes them 313 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: unique or remarkably good or bad. That is a ret nugget. 314 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: If there are any, just shoot up the ret nuggets site. 315 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: I will I'm not entirely sure. Yeah, I'm not sure 316 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: what the signal is, but I have a feeling I'll 317 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: know it when I see it. 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Let's move 326 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: on to corners, because I feel like we're in a 327 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: very good kind of dB space and I want to 328 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: stick with that. Rhett, who is on your list of 329 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: corners that we should be looking out for. 330 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 3: There's a couple of corners that there's an argument about 331 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 3: about who's the best one in this class and there 332 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 3: are some there some good ones. A couple of guys 333 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 3: at the top. One is Will Johnson from Michigan. Now 334 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 3: he's one of the holdovers from the national championship team 335 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: of a year ago with ay Head, What do we 336 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 3: have eighteen guys that were draft eligible last year, and 337 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 3: of course Ohio State has that run this year. But 338 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: Will Johnson one of the bigger corners in this draft. 339 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 3: Six one and three quarters, one ninety four hands, nine 340 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 3: and one eight thirty and one eighth inch arms seventy 341 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 3: five and seven eighths inch wingspan. He did not test 342 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 3: at the Combine. There's conflicting reports about what his film 343 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 3: took a little step backwards in twenty twenty four, but 344 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: he's certainly somebody that's going to be mentioned in Night 345 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: one of the draft. And then a guy that a 346 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 3: lot of people argue is one of the best corners 347 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 3: in this draft is John A. Barron from Texas five 348 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: ten to three quarters, one hundred ninety four pounds, nine 349 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: and a half inch hands, arms twenty nine and five 350 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: eights wing seventy four. So he's not real long lever, 351 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 3: as coach Mack would say, but he tested off the 352 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: charts a four to three nine forty one and a 353 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 3: half seconds in his first ten thirty five inch vertical leap, 354 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: ten to three broad jump. And again, another guy in 355 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: the college football playoffs made plays consistently for the Longhorns. 356 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: And then the couple of the other ones that I've 357 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 3: got in here as Aarrea Thomas from Florida State six 358 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 3: one and a half, one ninety seven ten inch hands wow, yeah, 359 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: mits thirty two and three eight inch arms, seventy eight 360 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 3: inch wingspan. The only thing he did to combine was 361 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 3: a broad jump at ten to two. But all you 362 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: got to do is look at the film and you 363 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 3: can see a big physical corner in that. And then 364 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 3: a guy that we like for later on in the process, 365 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 3: probably a Day three prospect, Quincy Riley five ten and 366 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: five eighths one four eight and a half inch hands, 367 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 3: thirty one inch arms, seventy five inch wing four four 368 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: eight forty one five to four in the first ten 369 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 3: and talking about a guy that is very much like 370 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 3: our current Tennessee Titan in this he is cut from 371 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 3: the same kind of cloth. 372 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: Riley is gonna be in the lower part of the draft, 373 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: but he's not a He's not a lower tier player, correct. 374 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 3: But yeah, if you like Jarvis Browne, and we all do, 375 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: I like him this time last year, you're gonna like 376 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 3: Quincy Riley. That that's the He's just an even more 377 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 3: intense version of Jarvis Brownlee. So we have been told 378 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 3: and kind of how he's been displayed. 379 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 2: Well, you if you watch him, I mean you watching 380 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: watch him at the Senior Bowl, and so I mean 381 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: we'll see again, We're not we're not trying to tell 382 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: anybody who the Titans are gonna draft. 383 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 3: No, we're just. 384 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: The other thing too. For our OT people. Anytime you 385 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,239 Speaker 2: hear us talk about ten yard splits, especially in these 386 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: skill positions, anything that said that has a five after 387 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: the one is really good. Okay, is really good. C 388 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: J two K was in the fours, you know, because 389 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: I mean that's that's elite of elite. But anything with 390 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: one five in it as far as the ten, as 391 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: far as we're talking about instant burst. So just so 392 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 2: you know, that's the range you're looking at. 393 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 3: And there's some guys we'll go through these positions that 394 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: have those numbers in the one point four US. 395 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: That's crazy, all right, Mac, who's on your list? 396 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 2: Well? For Travis Haunter from Colorado. 397 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: Yes, of course. 398 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: To me, I mean this guy, I mean just his 399 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: physical measurements. He's six foot, he's one hundred and eighty 400 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: eight pounds. May have played this year at a lighter 401 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: weight than that, hand size nine and an eighth and 402 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: nearly thirty two two inch arms, wingspans seventy five and 403 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 2: a half. This guy when you watch him, when you 404 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 2: watch him on tape, of course, he played one hundred 405 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: and four snaps a game. So if you want to 406 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 2: watch somebody play, he got a lot of stuff to watch. 407 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: But his his ability, his his leaping ability, and his 408 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: his hand extension and his ability to keep his to 409 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: keep the water in his bucket when the ball is thrown. 410 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 2: Playing a defensive back is elite. He's got elite explosiveness, 411 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: his change of direction and his burst is really really good. 412 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: His recognition of plays is top level. He is a 413 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: He's a really instinctive, instinctive player. His foot quickness and 414 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: his lower body of fluidity is something that you really 415 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: really watch. He's an effortless player as far as his bend. 416 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: He's as smooth as silk with all of his all 417 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: of his physical movements, his eye discipline, I mean, he 418 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: can recognize things. To me, if this is what he 419 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: wants to be, he's a number one corner in my 420 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: humble opinion, which doesn't matter. I'm not drafting anybody anymore. 421 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: But this guy, this guy is is elite because his 422 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: physical ability is rare. 423 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: If he wants to be, meaning, if he chooses that 424 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: as his primary role. 425 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: Well, whoever drafts him. 426 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: Right, because I guess they picked well. 427 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: But he will have a say because this is a 428 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 2: this is a rare guy. I mean the guy that 429 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: he's played for his entire career, whether he's at Jackson 430 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 2: State or where there's at Colorado. Deon Sanders was rare. 431 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: He played corner at a high level. He also played 432 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 2: receiver when they wanted to use him as that he 433 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: was a punt returner. And then while he was just resting, 434 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: he'd go play professional baseball. So I mean just I mean, 435 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 2: and and play it well. So you're talking about, you know, 436 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 2: rare athlete, but this guy, when you watch him, he's 437 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: an exceptional athlete. Exceptional. Next guy, Chavon Ravel from East 438 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: Carolina six' two one ninety four nearly not in five eighth. 439 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: Hands that's a big. Paw that's a big. Paw amy 440 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 2: that's about two years the arm length thirty two and 441 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: five eights, wingspan sitting down in a, QUARTER i mean 442 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: he was at the. Combine of course he didn't work 443 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: out because he was, injured but just watching, him he's 444 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 2: a really good friend Of Quincy. Riley he was recruited 445 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: by the secondary coach that Was quincy's coach At. Louisville 446 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: just looking at him physically standing down, there on the 447 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 2: floor Of Lucas. Oil this guy is. Imposing he's got AN. 448 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: Acl he had AN acl early early in this. Season 449 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 2: but when you go back to watch his other other, 450 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: tape he's got good. Speed he's light on his. FEET 451 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 2: i mean he can play the ball down the. FIELD 452 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 2: i mean he's really good at the catch. Point he's 453 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: got a, big big. Radius this guy is processing really. 454 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: Well and here's the other. Thing for his, size he 455 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 2: moves like a guy that's not that. Big he moves 456 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 2: really really. Well he would be a top five player 457 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: in this draft if he hadn't hurt THAT. 458 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 3: Acl Schevon, Revelle he's. Right if he didn't have THE, 459 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 3: acl he would be very highly taken in This he 460 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: could still be taken in the first, round just because 461 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: the measurables and the athletic part of it is off 462 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 3: the charts toward THE. Acl in Late, september had Surgery october. 463 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 3: Fifteenth surgeon put out a memo to teams just prior 464 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 3: to the combine saying he will be cleared the, summer 465 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 3: so rock and. 466 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 2: Roll next dude Is Maxwell harriston From kentucky five, eleven 467 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: one eighty, three eight and three quarters hands arm link thirty, 468 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: one wingspan seventy. Five really liked this guy when we 469 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 2: were at The Senior bowl just watching, him and then 470 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: he goes to the combine and blows the doors off 471 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: Of he really does is forty was a four to 472 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: two eight vertical jump thirty nine and a half broad 473 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: jump ten. Nine those are, elite elite lower body explosion and. 474 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: SPEED i, mean it's just. Elite this guy had six 475 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: interceptions and eight pass breakups in the last season and a. 476 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: Half his plant and drive for the football is. Elite 477 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 2: we talk about short area burst in, fluidity really, good really. 478 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: GOOD i mean he stood. Out he stood out to 479 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 2: me at The Senior bowl Before i'd even watched any 480 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: tape on. Him and then you start looking at him 481 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: talk about oily. Hips this guy's got. Him i'm gotta loose. 482 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 2: Hips he can. Transition he had a shoulder injury in 483 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Four that's a red. Nugget i'll Let ret 484 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 2: go on. THAT i don't want to be a doctor 485 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: at reht's a. 486 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 3: Doctor, no no one's ever said that till right, now 487 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: and that is not. True but, yeah he missed five 488 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 3: games with a shoulder and that was why it was 489 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 3: important for him to accept the invitation to The Senior 490 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 3: bowl and did very well there and then doubled down 491 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 3: on it and really tested well at The. Combine and 492 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 3: so now that they see that that shoulder is not an, 493 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 3: Issue i'm sure the medical stuff probably worked out. Fine 494 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 3: he wouldn't have put up those kinds of numbers if 495 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 3: there was something going on with, THAT i would. Think but, 496 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 3: yeah he golly, wow he is he? Fast Holy, moses 497 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 3: you think. 498 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: Fast he's a quick. Dude, yeah he's a quick, dude 499 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 2: and he can he can. Play, now he's not going 500 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 2: to be a physically imposing, guy but he's going to be, 501 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 2: very very in phase with, receivers all. Right next guy 502 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: Is Jacob perish From Kansas. State five nine one ninety. 503 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: One hand size of nine thirty and seven, eighths arm, 504 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: length wing span of seventy five four three five in 505 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: the forty ten yards split one five to one thirty 506 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: seven and a. Half vertical broad jump of ten. Nine this, 507 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 2: guy he's a sticky, man the man. Guy he's a violent. 508 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: Player he'll take some false steps at, times but not very. 509 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 2: Many he can he can mirror. Match when you talk 510 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 2: about mirror, match he can stay in phase with receivers 511 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: without much problem at. All he's a quick twitch, guy 512 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: plays the ball. ACCURATELY i didn't know he was that. 513 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 2: Fast he's going to be drafted fairly. High and then 514 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 2: what he did at the. 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Otp, WELL 524 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: i think we should continue on to, linebackers shall. 525 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: We we're making our way up towards the line of, scrimmage. 526 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: Yeh telling you what we are going from back to. Front, 527 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: here we're moving up towards that line of. Scrimmage you're, right. 528 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: RHTT i would love to hear your list of linebackers 529 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: Because i'm guessing it's pretty. 530 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 3: Legit, yeah there's some good off ball linebackers in this, 531 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: draft AND i think the top of the class Is 532 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 3: Jehad campbell From. Alabama nearly six, three two hundred and 533 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 3: thirty five, pounds hands ten and a half thirty two 534 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 3: and a half inch, arms eighty inch. Wingspan tested in 535 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: what he, did did nice at almost sixty three and 536 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 3: two thirty five four five two and the forty one 537 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 3: five three in the first ten yards ten seven broad. 538 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 3: Jump and the thing about him that is going to 539 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,239 Speaker 3: make it attractive obviously he played In alabama in the, 540 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 3: defense but his versatility to be able to play off 541 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 3: ball linebacker and to also be an edge pass, rusher 542 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 3: which he has both done at a high level at that. 543 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 2: Program As rehetz, said this is a superb, athlete sub 544 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 2: track guy in high. 545 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: School, ah, yes. 546 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 2: But he doesn't have a lot of time on task 547 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: as an off ball. 548 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 3: Linebacker he was an edge pass rusher mostly and then. 549 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: Moving the reason they moved him is he was playing 550 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 2: with two number one picks on the edge At. Alabama, 551 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 2: yeah so they moved him back behind the. Ball so 552 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: right now HIS k AND d is not natural back. 553 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: THERE i, mean you can watch and see now once 554 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 2: he sees, it and he can get. THERE i, mean 555 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: this guy is, long he's, fast he's. Violent whoever takes, 556 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: him if they start to develop him and he is, 557 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: versatile you're gonna be able to move him outside and 558 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: still rush. Him but just with a little time on, 559 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: task learning how to read the center guard, triangle training 560 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: his eyes of what it is behind the. Ball this 561 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: is this is a superb. Athlete but if you were 562 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: going to look at somebody right now and, SAY i 563 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: mean he understands all the nuances of playing behind the, 564 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 2: ball it's. Not it's not the case because he just 565 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 2: doesn't have a lot of time on. Task BUT i 566 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: love the, athlete. 567 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: And with that in, mind still registered seventy tackles nine 568 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 3: and a half for lost three and a half sacks 569 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty four. Seasons, wow athlete for. 570 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: Sure, project but not a big. Project no, no, no, no. 571 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 3: No there's this kind of project you. Want this is 572 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: the house is nearly. Finished you just need to maybe 573 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: put a coat of pain on. It so take. 574 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: Care, yeah hinges. 575 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 3: Exactly, yeah the drawer pulls right. Exactly Barrett carter From 576 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 3: clemson six foot almost six y one there two thirty one, 577 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: hands nine and a quarter, arm thirty two and one 578 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 3: eights wing almost seventy. Nine he is going to be 579 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 3: somebody that you're gonna hear in nine two probably in 580 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 3: all of, this maybe late night. TOO a couple of 581 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 3: other guys that have my Attention Chris Paul junior From, 582 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 3: Ole miss almost six to one two twenty two nine 583 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 3: and three eight inch, hands, uh seventy six inch. Wing 584 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 3: he ran four six three uh in the forty one 585 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 3: sixty two in the first ten thirty six inch vertical, 586 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: leap nine to nine in the broad and, uh you're 587 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 3: you're talking about a guy that you know a successful career. 588 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 3: There uh with the with the old. Miss the guy 589 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 3: THAT i keep bringing up THAT i really like Is 590 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 3: Demetrius Knight junior Of South carolina six to one just 591 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 3: under six two two thirty five, hands ten inches wing 592 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 3: eighty and a half and. Uh the testing good four 593 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: five eight and the forty one to five eight in 594 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 3: the first, ten seven to one to two in the 595 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 3: three cone thirty one and a half inch vert twenty 596 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 3: two reps at two twenty. Five and he's the guy 597 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 3: that was he moved from his late high school career 598 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: as as a an athletic move quarterback to moving to 599 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 3: this position on. Defense oh. Wow and so he went 600 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 3: four years At Georgia tech trying to learn all that 601 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: went one year At charlotte and that was WHERE i told, you, 602 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 3: Guys ret nugget time here that he's. Married he has 603 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: a little boy it's about seven months, old a daughter 604 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 3: that's a little about nearly two years. Old and so, 605 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: yes put food on the. Table so after games At, 606 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 3: charlotte not a lot of nil money At, charlotte so 607 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 3: he's driving For Uber eats and making extra money to 608 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 3: put food on the. Table then he gets an opportunity 609 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 3: to hit the transfer, portal goes To South, carolina has 610 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: a really nice year. There you talk about a guy 611 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 3: that he's an older, prospect but a grown man with 612 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 3: a family and knows he's got to put food on the. 613 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 3: Table he'll play for. 614 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: You, yeah that's a Good ret. Nugget that was a great. 615 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: One rhet's always got. 616 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: Nuggets, yeah all, Right, mac you're the linebackers coach, here, 617 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: love but what you Got. 618 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: Carson schweissinger FROM. Ucla all, right this is six two 619 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 2: and a, half two hundred and forty two, pounds big, 620 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,479 Speaker 2: hands over nine inch. Hands arm length is thirty two 621 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: thirty two, inches good wingspan seventy eight and three quarters 622 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: thirty nine and a half. Vertical this guy's a quick trigger. 623 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: Guy now when you're looking at, him his pursuit range is. 624 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 2: Excellent he's got a good. Speed he's got a QUICK 625 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: k AND D k AND d is key in. Diagnosed 626 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: he's very quick with. That he gets ahead of. Blocks 627 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: and you get ahead of blocks by being able to 628 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: have your eyes in the right place early because if 629 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: you if you wait to figure out to try to 630 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 2: get on the, blocks you're already behind. You always always 631 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: try to tell my guys get ahead of the blocks 632 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 2: by all the information you process before the ball is. 633 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: Snapped he can do. That he's fast, enough you, know 634 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 2: to to run deep if he has. To he's a little. 635 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 2: Undersized his, anchor we've talked about anchor before taking something 636 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 2: on straight, ahead is he doesn't have a real strong. 637 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: Anchor he'll get bounced out of his gaps a lot of. 638 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: Times but his ability to, cover which because a guy 639 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: behind the. Ball, nowadays the space linebackers are. Important they're 640 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: asked to cover whether you're playing manners. ON i Think 641 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: Carson swetzinger is a, guy and especially with his with 642 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 2: his key and diagnosability is really. Good being to. 643 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: See and understand what's going on and react accordingly has 644 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: to make up for some of the physical, things. 645 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: Right, well the thing about playing linebacker is And I've 646 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: i've coached all sizes and shapes of, linebackers but the 647 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 2: one thing THAT i always started, with you, know WHEN 648 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 2: i was vetting, them or when you, know WHEN i 649 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: was sitting down with one before the, draft you, KNOW 650 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: i would put on their tape AND i would ask, 651 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: them what are you looking at? Here what are you seeing? 652 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 2: Here because you've got to get your eyes trained. First 653 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: you've got to learn as a. Linebacker it's like driving 654 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: with your headlights on dim or driving with your head 655 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: lights on. Bright you've got to be able to expand 656 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 2: your vision because the more that you can read that 657 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: center guard triangle and relate it to what's going on 658 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 2: out here and be able to process that with your film, 659 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: Study you've got to get ahead of the play because 660 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 2: if you're playing pass and run fifty to fifty on 661 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: every step as a linebacker at this, level you're. Behind 662 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 2: so you've got to be able to process that. Quickly 663 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 2: the next one Is Danny stutsman From. Oklahoma six three 664 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: two thirty three nine and nine inch, hands wingspan of 665 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 2: seventy nine four to five two of the forty a 666 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: one to five to two ten yards, split thirty four inch. 667 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: Vertical you watch, him you see him in, person looks 668 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: like AN nfl. Linebacker he's got lateral, quickness his, speed 669 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 2: his four to five two that's pretty average pursuit. Speed 670 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 2: his quickness makes up for that a little. Bit but 671 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: he's got a good, anchor his stopping. Power when he hits, 672 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 2: you he stops, you all. RIGHT i like that about. 673 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 2: Him and he uses his length a lot of time 674 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 2: to initiate. Contact and When i'm looking at, linebackers the 675 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,959 Speaker 2: one thing in the collegiate. Game they've only got twenty 676 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 2: hours to coach these guys and you're working in, scheme 677 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: you're working this is they all have to. LEARN i, 678 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: MEAN i keep going back to guys that people might. 679 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 2: Know i've had a lot of linebackers in my, career 680 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 2: but they all have to learn how to use their 681 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: hands to shock and shit and use their, arms use their. 682 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 2: Length and he does. That he does that better than. 683 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 2: Most his processing speed can can speed, UP i, think 684 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 2: BUT i like him because he's played behind the ball 685 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 2: a lot and he's got he's got some time on 686 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 2: task doing. That Jeffrey bassa From oregon sixty, one two thirty. 687 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 2: Two he's a former safety night in a quarter hands 688 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 2: seventy eight and three. Quarters so he's got good wingspan 689 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: four six three in the forty thirty eight and a 690 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 2: half vertical broad jump of nine. Ten he's got some 691 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 2: short area quick. Explosion he's got a seven point three 692 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 2: four three cone, drill which is that's right on the. 693 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 2: Edge you got to be a pretty GOOD k AND 694 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 2: d guy to be able to, play to be able 695 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: to play with. That now he's got good, pursuit he 696 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 2: can close on. It his, INSTINCTS i think in athleticism 697 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 2: will probably lend him to be a sub package guy right, 698 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 2: now a special team sub package. Guy he keeps his 699 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 2: composure at the catch. Point he doesn't, panic he can 700 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 2: HOLD i, say hold your, water keeps the water in 701 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 2: his bucket when he's going up looking looking for the, 702 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: ball and so he's got a stiff punch on. Him 703 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 2: so HE'LL i think to, me he'll be drafted somewhere 704 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 2: in the lower part of. This he is a converted, 705 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 2: safety but he's a, decent decent space. Player he'll be 706 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 2: a sub player. 707 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: Somewhere if a player can't hold their, water what? 708 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 3: Happens he gets. 709 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: Tennesties, oh rat the. 710 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: Ball the ball is. Complete see a lot of, GUYS 711 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: a lot of guys can get. There but then there's 712 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 2: a there's a moment of truth when the receiver is 713 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: going up at the catch point and the ball is. 714 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 2: Released a lot of guys panic and either get behind 715 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 2: or they grab or they do. This holding your water 716 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 2: means you're able to keep the water in your, bucket 717 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 2: keep it steady so you don't, spill you, KNOW i 718 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: mean you're you're you're able to complete the. 719 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: Task, okay, yeah that makes. 720 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 2: Sense Jack kaiser From Notre dame six two two thirty 721 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: one nine inch hands seventy seven wingspan ninety. Tackles this 722 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: guy's around the ball a lot to force. FUMBLES i, 723 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 2: mean he's got good. Instincts he's an instinctive. Player he's 724 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 2: a reliable. Tackler he has experienced playing all three linebacker 725 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 2: positions In Notre dame's. Defense he played the mic which 726 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 2: is the middle, linebacker played the, sam which is to 727 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 2: the tight end, side played the, will which is is 728 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 2: to the open. Side and he's a he's a core 729 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 2: special teamer probably what he's going to be already out 730 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 2: in this. League BUT i liked him just watching him 731 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 2: blitz and. Stuff it's a pretty savvy. 732 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 3: Player dude played a lot of football in twenty twenty. 733 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 3: Four because we know as deep as that thing, went 734 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 3: played sixteen. Games it's a lot Rookie wall should be 735 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 3: nothing to. 736 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: Him, yeah read it seems like there's a lot of 737 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: depth in this draft at the linebacker. Position is that? 738 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 3: CORRECT i think it's. Decent, YEAH i think it. 739 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 2: Is depends on what flavor you're. Looking there's a lot 740 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 2: of different. Ones, okay they're. DIFFERENT i don't think you 741 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 2: can categorize. THIS i mean the guys THAT i read, 742 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 2: off you know WHEN i WHEN i say, that you 743 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: know they're probably going to be a core teamer coming. 744 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,720 Speaker 2: In they're probably going. There there are a lot of different, types, 745 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 2: okay of, linebackers and you've got you've got you, know 746 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 2: guys have been converted from the edge to back behind the. 747 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,479 Speaker 2: Ball there are guys that are you, know really good 748 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 2: athletes that may not be as good AS k AND d, 749 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 2: guys so that there's a lot of different. 750 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: Types pick your flavor Like Baskin. 751 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 3: Robbins and there's more than thirty one in this. Deal 752 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 3: there you got two hundred and fifty seven will be 753 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 3: chosen over, those. 754 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: All, right you. Guys we did, safeties we did, corners 755 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: we did. Linebackers ladies and, gentlemen these are your position. 756 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: Previews those is. 757 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 3: Fun, yes let's do some. 758 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: More let's do. More how about next time we talk 759 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: a little defensive line and maybe throwing some. Dressure it's 760 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: just her. 761 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 3: FUN i like. 762 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 2: That we can do it all. 763 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: Right for coach Mac Rett, Brian I'm Amy. Wells thank 764 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: you for joining. 765 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 3: Us for. 766 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: Oh my, gosh WHAT i keep thinking something's on. 767 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 2: Fire, no, okay, look here's the next thing we're going to. 768 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 2: Do before we, EVER i WANT i want to get 769 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 2: some measure tape in here and measure your hand because 770 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 2: every time we talk about hand, size you put your 771 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 2: hand down on a piece of. Paper you want. 772 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: To, KNOW i want to know how you want to know? 773 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: Exactly BUT i know paper is eight and a half by, 774 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 1: Eleven so if it's thumb to, PINKY i can kind 775 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: of get an idea based on. 776 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 3: The. 777 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 2: PAPERS i knew she was a measure. It measure. It 778 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 2: you don't get you don't do. 779 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:10,720 Speaker 1: It who holds? 780 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 2: It she? DOES i don't get to measure your own. 781 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 2: Hand take it flat on the, table the, ticket flat 782 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 2: on the. 783 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 1: Table oh my hands. 784 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 3: Are you? 785 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: Doing go from? 786 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: Eight eight? 787 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 2: It that's a big hand it. 788 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: IS i played piano for four. 789 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 2: YEARS i made measured. Again let me let me be 790 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 2: sure that is no wait a, minute, pink that's exactly 791 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 2: how you stretch it. Out, OH i can almost get a. 792 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: Quarter that's eight and a. 793 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 2: Quarter thank, You. Ashley that that. Hurts that's so. Good. Quarter, 794 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 2: well that's what we're saying next time we get on. 795 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 3: Here right there you. 796 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: Go this is why your hands. 797 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 2: Are bigger Than kenny pickets. 798 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: Me and most Of. AMERICA i. 799 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 2: Think all right for this. 800 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: Edition THE o T. 801 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 2: P I'm Amy. 802 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: Wells That's Red, brian that's Coach. Mac thank you for tuning. 803 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: In we will see you next step