1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by Pacific Office Automation, proud partner 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals and your one stop shop for 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: optimizing all your office technology. Visit Pacific Office dot Com. 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: Problem solved? Is it punt? Is it put? Oh my goodness, 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: it's put DeAndre open? He put it for a dockdown. 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: You've got to be joking me. Welcome to Cardinals Underground, 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: presented by the Pacific Office Automation. Visit Pacific Office dot Com. 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Problem solved, up down Tyler Murray. That defender is in 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: multiple pieces. All that was nasty right there? Rights the 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: latest news and notes from the guys who cover the teams. 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Rilled by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is bawling. Bring it on, 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: bring it on. Slam the ground by foot a baker 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. I 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: scared of nobody. Here's Paul Calvic. We just got a 15 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: mic check here on Cardinals Underground. Do we need an 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: energy check? Darren Urban, Felipe A Corral Junior, PAULI Pencil 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: Next Slash Podcast. How is the energy in the room? 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: Because I know it's a podcast, gentleman, but there is 19 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: no room for the four letter F work flat. We 20 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: can't have it. Can't have flat around here. Felipe A, 21 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: you're nodding accordingly. You're on board exactly. Yeah, I think 22 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: my energy will you know, lighting up or maybe not 23 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: so depending on the status of Kylie Murray heading into 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: week eleven. So so it's all depending on it's a TVD. Yes, No, 25 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: you need to bring your own energy. Felipe Okay, other 26 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: guys need to feed off you. I can tell right 27 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: now Darren needs to feed off you. Come on, d 28 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: let's go. You're you're you're back in your chair. I 29 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: don't know. I usually you're on the edge of your seat. 30 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: Not so much. Today. The back's hurting a little bit, Paul. 31 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: So I didn't wrote myself this morning. So we're gonna 32 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: go ahead and uh, we're gonna lean back and prop 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: up the back is just play pick up hoops in 34 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: the morning before work. I mean, you're making Tuesday the 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: most productive day of the week was just going to 36 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: the gym in the morning. And what the worst part was. 37 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't even grabbing any weights or anything. It was 38 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: it was I was just there and I went to 39 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: turn to do something and then I realized I must 40 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: be a little bit. I mean, it's not super bad, 41 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: but I've learned after many years that, uh, as soon 42 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: as you feel one thing in the back, you stop 43 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: for the day and hope it's better the next thing. 44 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: You know, our Jim Almahundro is right here, editor extraordinary. 45 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: If you want to change your story, he'll he'll edit 46 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: that in if you want to, you know, say you 47 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: were attempting a thousand pound deadlift. He's making the money signs. 48 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to pay him off reprise your story. 49 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know you were you were you 50 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: were deadlifting. I would just think of something other than 51 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: I turned around in the weight room. I feel I 52 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 1: understand where you're going with that, But there's also part 53 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: of me that feels like effing up your back because 54 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: you try exactly, because you try to lift a thousand 55 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: pounds or something, just seems even more stupid than just 56 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: turning in and and tweaking it a bit. Does look 57 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: a little scar Was it one of those things where 58 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: you're like stretching out and you know, I was there. 59 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: I was in the middle of a workout. Everything was fine. 60 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: I had already lifted a bunch of weights. I was 61 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: all good, and then I went to go turn and 62 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: and it was just enough. And I've had enough back 63 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: issues where I'm like I used to be someone like 64 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not horrible. I'm gonna finish the workout. 65 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: And then my wife would yell at me when I 66 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: got home, and sometimes it would be okay, and sometimes 67 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: it would it cost me. And I'm now to the 68 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: age where I'm like, okay, you got to shut yourself 69 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: down right the second and hope that tomorrow morning everything 70 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: is good. Well, okay, there are two options. Number One, 71 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: you can just take off your headset and walk fifty 72 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: yards that way into the training room. Yeah, or could 73 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: or we could give you a home remedy of sorts. 74 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: Here we go Paully prescription, and it's not for more cowbell. 75 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: The prescription here is I want you to take four 76 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: quarters of football in Seattle and see what that does 77 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: for your urgency, your intensity, and your energy when it's 78 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: you against the world in Seattle. This is the perfect opponent, 79 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: the perfect road game, the perfect venue coming off what 80 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: we just saw did not see against Carolina. Well, I 81 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: will say this, if I could take my back injury 82 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: and swap myself for somebody else on the injury report 83 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. I would be willing to do that, really, yeah, okay, Son, 84 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I don't think that's how it works. 85 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: If I went on, somebody automatically comes off like one 86 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: of those really bad B movies that used to make 87 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: in the seventies and eighties, where like two personalities would 88 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: swatch it like exactly, so like you could have Kyler's 89 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: ankle injury and he could deal with your back injury, 90 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: which I week. I go on the injury list, he 91 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: comes off the injury list. Work that way, because you know, 92 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: we know Kyler would play through your injury right now 93 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: and he wouldn't be squawking about it. If I was 94 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: substituting myself into the injury list, I'd probably do Aaron 95 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: Brewer maybe instead of Kyler Murray. You'd rather have a 96 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: broken arm, yeah, maybe, yeah than an ankle. I've had 97 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: three ankle surgeries, so trust me, I do not want 98 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: another ankle injury, whiles at your age to have three surgeries. 99 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: You know it was back in my heyday of playing 100 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: basketball landing on people's feet, people not you know, giving 101 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: me space to land after shooting at three or something 102 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: like that. You know, Actually, you're right. I think that 103 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: is why it was. It was after Petulia went under 104 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard, he went under Filippe base foot. That's why 105 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: the NBA has that role. No, I think it was 106 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: just the crossovers. I think it's your poor defense and footwork. 107 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: You literally got your ankles broken apparently on a crossover. 108 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: There's there's no there's no video footage of that at 109 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: an LA Fitness or Lifetime Fitness. Jimmaud is scrolling right now. 110 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: He might retweet it any moment. Just be ready for that. Hey, 111 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: Once upon a time, under Cliff Kingsbury, the Cardinals went 112 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: into Seattle with a backup quarterback and they won the game. Now, 113 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: he didn't start the game finished the game. He did 114 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: finish the game. But the Cardinals won that game going away. 115 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: And that backup quarterback did take a bow after one 116 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: long touchdown drive where he had a couple of long runs. Actually, 117 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: and it wasn't Kyler Murray, but Brett Hunley taken a 118 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: page out of the Kyler Murray playbook. And here's the question, 119 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: and let's just start with this and then we'll go 120 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: and we'll reverse engineer this edition of Cardinals Underground, but 121 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: based on what we know right here, right now, there's 122 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: a tweet out there from a credible NFL insider that 123 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: the Cardinals try to sign Shane Bouschel yes off the 124 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: Kansas City practice squad Kansas City ran interference. They signed 125 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: him themselves to their active roster. Are the Cardinals in 126 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: search of another because we don't know about the first 127 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: string quarterback, we don't know about the second string quarterback. 128 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: What do we know about a fourth string quarterback at 129 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: this point? Well, I mean I would think, if nothing else, 130 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: you'd like to have another body healthy for practice, if 131 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: anybody's missing practice. So I could see why that, and 132 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: I also understand why Boushell wouldn't want to necessarily come over. 133 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: The Chiefs ended up stopping it from happening by signing 134 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: him to their active roster, which teams can do, and 135 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: usually players want to stay where they've already been practicing 136 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: and training anyways, But it also makes sense he's their 137 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: third quarterback here, he would be the fourth quarterback, and 138 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: if everybody got healthy, they don't need him anymore. So 139 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: I could understand why he'd want to stick around, but 140 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: it does raise the red flag. Although I'll be honest, guys, 141 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: after Cliff Kingsbury said there was a there was an 142 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: NFL Network report early Monday that said Colt McCoy only 143 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: had a peck strain and he'd be okay this week. 144 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: But then Cliff Kingsbury talked and he called him day 145 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 1: to day, and quite frankly, after the last few weeks 146 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: of what day to day has meant for Kyler Murray 147 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: or DeAndre Hopkins or a number of other players, I 148 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: don't want to hear Cliff Kingsbury say day to day 149 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: and feel super confident about anybody's health because that could 150 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: easily mean week to week. Yes, he's just taken a 151 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: day by day. Doesn't mean the outlook is necessarily day 152 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: by day. That's just how they're assessing it. That's the 153 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: way I translate that. And I'm on board with you. 154 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: I am, and with all due respector Chris Strubbler, I'm 155 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: not so sure that Shane Bouchell would the fourth string 156 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: quarterback for long if Chris Strubbler isn't more productive than 157 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: what we saw against Carolina. Do you guys think it's 158 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: petty of the Chiefs to do that, to sign them 159 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: as soon as you like, there's here, let me ask him. 160 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: I'll put it this way. Would it be if the 161 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals were only carrying two quarterbacks and they had Struggler 162 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: on the practice squad, which, for whatever reason the fans 163 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: have been squawking about since training camp, you couldn't You 164 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: can't let that guy go. I mean, you got to 165 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: have three quarterbacks around and and the only thing I 166 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: would argue with Paul's argument about coming in bring it is, 167 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: I just if you have a guy that's been with 168 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: you for over, you know, almost two years now, and 169 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a guy come in on three days 170 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: practice and pass here on the depth chart, that guy 171 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: who is with you for two years shouldn't be here 172 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: in the first place. I don't think. I think Struggler. 173 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: I think that would be a backup plan. Absolutely. Anybody 174 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: coming in would be a backup plan at this point, 175 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: I would think, because because you would need somebody if 176 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: the other two guys are hurt, you got to have 177 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: at least a second quarterback. You're right, I mean Cliff Kingsbury, 178 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: as a head coach and the play caller and game 179 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: planner think of from Straveler to Shane Bouchell or any 180 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: quarterback to be named later who comes in. You'd go 181 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: from the entirety of your playbook to a very small 182 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: percentage of your playbook being available on your play sheets. 183 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: So you know you're absolutely right. Here's my question, who 184 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: was the emergency quarterback? Because it was Chase Edmonds? But 185 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: now Chase Edmonds is on IR according to who though 186 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: it was Chase Edmonds according to him, Cliff Kingsbury a 187 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, when we broke down on his 188 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: weekly TV show game Plan, and that's a valid question, Felipe, 189 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: we did the Chase Edmonds wildcat touchdown, and he said 190 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: two things about that. Number One, Chase is the emergency quarterback. 191 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: Number Two, I ripped this playoff from Liberty and Hugh Freeze. Remember, 192 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: so he left out that Edmonds emergency quarterback and he 193 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: worked that into you know, the commentary. And so I 194 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: was intriguing and because then I made a joke later, 195 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: we'll wait a minute, Christian Kirk had a touchdown pass. 196 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: Are you sure Christian Kirk is inviting time to try 197 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: and beat out Chase Edmonds to be the emergency quarterback? 198 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: And we got a little chuckle on that, or maybe 199 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: he gave me a courtesy laugh and a golf clap. 200 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure, or ignored me. Could have been 201 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: any of the above. I'm not really sure. But maybe 202 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds is the guy. I mean, Christian Kirk is 203 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: a guy. I'm not really sure, but we're not sure. 204 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: The Cardinals don't have a dire quarterback issue. Yea, at 205 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: this point, that's true. As we record right now, it 206 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: could be all kinds of disaster. So monitor that. A 207 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: quick word on the Carolina game. Meanwhile, Paul just scared 208 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: the entire fan base listening to Cardinals. I just want 209 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: everyone to be aware what might be hanging in the balance. 210 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: I will say also that on the Friday press conference, 211 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: Cam Newton delivered. Did you guys happen to see any 212 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: of that? What Cam Newton had to say when he 213 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: was deadly serious with the Carolina media and he looked 214 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: them all in the eye and he said, this isn't 215 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: some sort of parade. I'm here to work and I'm 216 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: all about restoring Carolina pride. And anybody who was listening 217 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,599 Speaker 1: down in that media room, we were watching it on 218 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: the big screen, which was basically nobody listening to yours truly. 219 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: I said, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if Cam 220 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: Newton comes out there and delivers the pregame speech and 221 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: they don't feed off Cam Newton, that Sam Darnold won't 222 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: be additioned by subtraction, just getting rid of a guy 223 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: they probably didn't believe in and who was playing miserable football. 224 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: And sure enough, two plays into the game for Cam 225 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: Newton he had two touchdowns. That's true. And it just 226 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: in hindsight, I think perhaps we should have seen that coming. 227 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: It probably shouldn't have been as big a shocker as 228 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: it might have been to all of us, yours truly included, 229 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: because as it unfolded, you're like, you know what, this 230 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. They have a former MVP 231 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: quarterback everybody feeds off. He's a legitimate alpha male in 232 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: the NFL. They have a top ranked defense that's flying around, 233 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: motivated by a former Cardinal who's getting them going, sort 234 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: of like in the Houston game, Cardinals found motivation against 235 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: a miserable Texans team because of de Hop and JJ Watt, 236 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: who addressed the team during the week. They have that 237 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: same dynamic with a son Reddick, So was it unfolded. 238 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: I sat there and sort of nodded and said, you 239 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: know what, I'm not shocked by this. I was still shocked. 240 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: I mean, Cam Newton still only played like four snaps, 241 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: and yeah, he gave a speech, but I mean, how 242 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: many times do we talk to guys and said speeches 243 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: are good up until probably about two minutes into the game. 244 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: And then sure, I mean I'll say it again, guys, 245 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: if if they find a way to cover Christian McCaffrey 246 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: on third and nine after the strip sack and instead 247 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: him getting wide open and getting the catch down to 248 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: the two and giving Cam Newton his first chance to 249 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: run it in and they hold them to after all 250 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: that the strip sack, if Carolina stalls out at the 251 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: fifteen yard line and only gets a field goal out 252 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: of it, I think everything's different, I really truly do. 253 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: And the fact that they let McCaffrey get that first down, 254 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: then you let Newton score, then things kind of roll on. 255 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't never use the M word because I 256 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: don't want Kyle Ortogard to track me down and take 257 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: me out, but it felt a little bit like that. 258 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: And again, I mean the first three possessions the Cardinals 259 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: had were essentially turnovers, two real turnovers, and then the 260 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: failed fourth down and they got seventeen points out of it. 261 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: And then the fact that for whatever reason, the defense 262 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: couldn't stop the run. Um. I mean, I'm not saying 263 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: it's it's not a good storyline for the Cam Newton stuff, 264 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: but I feel like that was about horrible execution and 265 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: bad run defense. Ultimately that really did them in a 266 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: lot more than Cam Newton coming in and hype in 267 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: the hype in the world. That's just me, though, I 268 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: mean I wasn't necessarily surprised either, just because from the 269 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: get go. I mean, when you when the momentum shifts 270 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: from the from the beginning of the game and you 271 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: have a team looking for any single the slightest motivation 272 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: to really get back on chat because you know they've 273 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: been struggling in the past five or six weeks. With 274 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: cmcl obviously you get Cam Newton. He gives that pregame 275 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: speech on the sideline, and Christian McCaffrey says it said 276 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: it himself after the game. I mean, there's no one 277 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: that really motivates his team and brings a type of 278 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: swagger to that locker room and then a Cam Newton. 279 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: So then when when you get that fumble obviously from 280 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick as well, you know it was his quote 281 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: unquote revenge game. There's so much there's so much momentum 282 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: going their way, and for it to shift that early 283 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: in the game, it was kind of hard to get 284 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: and get it all back. And then I mean Cam 285 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: Newton scoring obviously added to that. So that's why I 286 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily surprised because that shift happened so early in 287 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: the game. I don't give you guys that. I will 288 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: say this. I think having Christian McCaffrey two things. I 289 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: think not having Darnold was more important than having Cam Newton. 290 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: And I think getting Christian McCaffrey back, maybe not one 291 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: hundred percent, but that is easily the most he's played 292 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: since he got hurt and the most effective he's been, 293 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: and I think that was way more important than having 294 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: Cam Newton back. If Christian m Affrey's not out there, 295 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if Chubbahabard really does all those types 296 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: of things. I mean, Christian McCaffrey still only played. I 297 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: don't know. Something really low, crazy low like thirty snaps. 298 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: He didn't play the fourth quarter, and he had thirteen 299 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: carries for ninety five rushing yards and tench catches. Seemingly 300 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: every one of those catches was like second and long, 301 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: third and long. I mean he's moving the chains with 302 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: those catches, those angle routes out of the backfield. The 303 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: first play that I was talking about, that one that 304 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: converted the first down, how do you not how are 305 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: you not ready for? That? Was Isaiah Simmons. Never put 306 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: on him as a spy out of the backfield. I'd love, Yeah, 307 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: I saw him. I saw Isaiah on Christian McCaffrey a 308 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: couple of times, and I thought mcsimmons was covering him 309 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: on that first play too. I don't know, right as 310 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: a spot covering him eventually in a zone maybe, or 311 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: was he assigned him as a spy. That's what I know. 312 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: You trash him on a passing down. You're tracking number, 313 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean, right, what a CMC's number? Twenty two? Twenty two? 314 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: So you know, but look when Colet McCoy says after 315 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: the game, guys, quote, we were flat, we had no energy. Okay, 316 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: what begets what in that scenario you come out and 317 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: you to Darren's point, you had turned turnovers and you 318 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: turned over the ball and a failed fourth down because 319 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: you can't come off the balls in offensive line. Now 320 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: you can argue whether you want to go quarterback sneak 321 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: with a thirty five year old quarterback and two backup 322 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: guards into the teeth of a pretty stout front seven. 323 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: And hence after the game, Cliff Kingsbury said repeatedly, I 324 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: didn't mind going forward on fourth down. I'm not rethinking 325 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: that I'd redo my play call. Give it to your 326 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: big hammer back right go the pound game with James Connor. 327 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: But once again, if you and I saw this, and 328 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: I asked Cliff Kingsbury about this after the game, the 329 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: entirety of the game, the coaches are furiously looking at 330 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: the tablets like I've never seen what's going on? What 331 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: can we correct? What adjustment can I make? You know 332 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: what the answer is, Jack to the squat. If your 333 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: players don't have energy and intensity and urgency, there's not 334 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: much you can do. Said after the game, and not 335 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: those exact same words. I asked coach Cliff, how many 336 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: adjustments can you make when you're losing the battle of 337 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: intensity and urgency and he said, yeah, granted, it's tough. 338 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 1: There's no halftime adjustment that's gonna win you the game. 339 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Cliff at some point this week 340 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: and show him this part of the podcast, and I'm 341 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: gonna ask him that you need those extra set of 342 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: eyes down there. I'm trying. I have to keep your 343 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: guys attention. I mean, you're like my kids. You go 344 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: to your phones if I don't say something, if I 345 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: don't embell it. But he's got to write down what 346 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: we're talking about here, and I don't throw something out. 347 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: So I mean that was an issue. Um, when you're 348 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: losing the battle and the trenches and let's face it, 349 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: the Cardinals old line and D line got dominated. Yeah. 350 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: Maybe the most concerning thing to me after the game, 351 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: and this is saying a lot, is when Zach Allen 352 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: pointed out they were running the ball on us for 353 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: chunk runs when we were in run stopping defensive fronts. 354 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: They introduced they devised some sort of trap play that 355 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: I guess Carolina hadn't shown to date. Joe Brady the 356 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: ROC busted out this trap play and Zach Allen, to 357 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: his credit, said, guess what we're going to see it 358 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: again for the next four weeks, because you'll see it 359 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: until you stop it. In the NFL. And man, how 360 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: many times did Christian McCaffrey and company get to the 361 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: second level untouched on the Chuba Hubbard touchdown run. It 362 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: was as easy as it gets. There look to be 363 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: confusion as to who exactly is supposed to be in 364 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: the flat and then they go for the two point 365 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: conversion and there's confusion in the secondary in reduced space. Yeah, 366 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: two dbs looking at each other, going to wait, was 367 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: that your guy was a guy? So is that a 368 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: lack of focus? Is that being flat? I would surmise, yes, 369 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: and yes, well I mean that kind of stuff that's 370 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: not about being flat. That's that is lack of focus 371 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: or whatever I mean the it. In some ways, it's 372 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: good to hear Zach Allen say, well, they busted out 373 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: this play wed they hadn't shown before, so at least 374 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: there's some kind of explanation. You wish they would have 375 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: been able to figure it out sooner rather than later, 376 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: because up it felt like the whole game where like, 377 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's a guy running right up 378 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: the middle for you know, all kinds of yards. You know, again, 379 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: we're rehashing this stuff when we're recording it. They're already 380 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: well beyond this game and there's no reason to keep 381 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: rehashing it in a lot of ways. I mean, there's 382 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: nothing to learn from that other than you played Crappie 383 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: and you guys know it's the here's the stat it's 384 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: the second straight and week in the NFL or four 385 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: teams with losing records beat a first place team. That's 386 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: eight times in two weeks that a team of a 387 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: losing record beat a first place team. And then if 388 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: you see, see here's the game plan. If I'm the 389 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: coaching staff and for things that will never ever happen, 390 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: if they brought me in for a pregame speech instead 391 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: of Cam Newton, I'd say, guess what Buffalo did after 392 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: losing to Jacksonville. They put a forty burger up on 393 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: the board against the Jets. Guess what Dallas did after 394 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: getting down thirty to nothing to Denver. They came out 395 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: and they blasted Atlanta forty three to three. Right, So, now, 396 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: what are the Cardinals have in store after doing what 397 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: basically every other leading team in the NFL has done. 398 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: And there's fall flat on their face. But you see, 399 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: you know the difference between those two teams that you 400 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: just mentioned. I mean, the Bills lost to the Jags, 401 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: but they had practically their entire you know, off in 402 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: some side. They still had Josh Allen, Stefan Diggs. On 403 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: that side with the Cowboys that lost at home to 404 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: the Broncos, with the healthy deck, you still have CD Lamb, 405 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: he still had Zeke and all that. So that's where 406 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: the silver lining is. I mean, you obviously you're going 407 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: to go on the road in my opinion, it's a 408 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: must win at Seattle, and you have a Russell Wilson 409 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: that I mean, let's face it, he wasn't in the 410 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: best of shape last week against the Packers on the road. 411 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: An wait, he rehabbed nineteen hours a day. He said, 412 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: So you're you're, you're, you're. You're not buying that he's 413 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: in fantastic shape. He's not. And it was funny because 414 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: I saw a tweet that you guys remember when Russ 415 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: was in like that imaginary huddle. Yes, someone tweeted the 416 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: Seahawks should have run that play that things like that. 417 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: So there's a silver lining to everything because hopefully the Cardinals. 418 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that they get Kyler Mary Bank. There's no 419 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: way in my opinion that he would, you know, miss 420 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: out on this type of game. Obviously, you don't want 421 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: to go into the bio. And two, it's a divisional game. Again, 422 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: it's a must win. Okay, okay, okay, I'm gonna stop 423 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: you there because that's the second time you said that. 424 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: Why do you think this is a must win Because 425 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: it's a divisional opponent. You don't want to go into 426 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: the by losing, and historically under Cliff keays Ray they've 427 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: struggled a little bit coming off the by and they're 428 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: gonna be on the road against you know, on the 429 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: East coast against Chicago. So to me, that's why I think, 430 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: that's why I wouldn't miss it if I was Kylin Mary. 431 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: But here's the problem. The problem is is when you 432 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: say must win, that comes with the definition. The definition 433 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: that is if you lose, your season's done. And that's 434 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: just not true. So I I I'm gonna I'm gonna 435 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,959 Speaker 1: battle you on this one that it's must win because 436 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: I don't think it's must win. Now. What it is is, 437 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: I don't think you can get blown out I think 438 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: that would be a very ugly thing to have happen. 439 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: But the other problem with saying it's must win is 440 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: if you go in with Chris Streveler as your quarterback, 441 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: you can't be you can't be having your team thinking 442 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: this is must win. I mean, not that he can't win, 443 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: but that's that's that's a bad I just think that's 444 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: a bad thought process to have. Of course, if the 445 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: Seahawks gets shut out again, I mean, Russell Wilson was 446 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: not good, guys, he was not. Now green Bay's defense, 447 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him props. As bad as Green Bay's 448 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: defense looked in September, Yeah, that's true. They have looked 449 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: splendicular against the Cardinals and then in that game against 450 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: Seattle when Russell Wilson goes out there struggling. Okay, now, 451 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: he said repeatedly his finger was fine. I don't think 452 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: anybody's buying that. But for him to go twenty of 453 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: forty for only one hundred and sixty one yards, two picks, 454 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: and a passer rating sub forty, and it's the first 455 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: time in his career he's ever been shut out, Well, 456 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: here's what's gonna happen. Paul you know, he's healthy now. 457 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: He rehabbed nineteen to twenty hours a day, So now 458 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna flip it just slightly. And now Russell Wilson 459 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: is going to practice nineteen to twenty hours a day. 460 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: I see. I don't know if he's gonna be able 461 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: to convince his teammates to do that with him. I 462 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: don't know how his wife feels about that. You know, 463 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: three in the morning and the neighbors are like, what 464 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: is that noise across the wall over there, Well, it's 465 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: just Russell calling out his place. He might want to 466 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: pace himself though. He also said this week that he 467 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: wants to play twenty plus years in the NFL and 468 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: own an NFL team when he's done. By the time 469 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: he's done playing his twenty plus years, it's gonna cost 470 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: him about ten billion dollars for an NFL team if 471 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: they keep appreciating at that rate. So I hope he's 472 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: saving his pennies right now. Well, he's going to be 473 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: looking for a new contract soon, so maybe he's expected 474 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: just give me a chunk of ownership, is what he's 475 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: gonna tell when you talk about having a pirate couple. Though, 476 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure his wife can help him in there. 477 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: I'm guessing. Look if Tom Brady's not buying it an 478 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: NFL team, and he might, who knows. And look, you 479 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: want me to go in depth, all right? You mentioned Kyle. 480 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: I want you to go in depth. Paul. Okay, here's 481 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: here's your your Kyle uder guard salute analytics because according 482 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: to ESPN Stats and Info, Russell Wilson missed a bunch 483 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: of throws against He missed ten. He had ten off 484 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: targeting completions, including eight overthrows, is what they rated, and 485 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: then next Gen Stats said he was particularly bad against 486 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: the Packers pressure. When they dialed it up, he went 487 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: only four. It's wall for thirty three yards, a pick 488 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: and a passer rating a seven point six when pressured. 489 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: H what does Manus Joseph do? Very well? He does 490 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: the pressure pretty well. He brings the blitz as long 491 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: as long as you put him in positions where they've 492 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: got a pass And that's what the issue was at 493 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: against the Packers. That's what the issue was against the Panthers. 494 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: Boast of the game is the Cardinals are not winning, 495 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: as they like to say, not winning first down. And 496 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: if you don't win first down. You're just not in 497 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: positions where you're you're having to set up a defense. 498 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: It has to be wary of the run, even if 499 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: they throw it on third down, and that's that's not 500 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: where they want to be. You know what Devon Knart 501 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: said after the game in regards to that, He said, 502 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: because we didn't win first down in second down, et cetera, 503 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: and they had second and manageable third and short. He said, Uh, 504 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers turned it into Burger King. They had 505 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: it their way. Oh wow, that was that was his 506 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: quote after the game on the radio side. He really 507 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 1: said that on the radio side they had it their way, 508 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: and he dropped b K into that. I like how 509 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 1: he's doing. Dad. Hopefully, I mean hopefully Chanlea Jones has 510 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: it his way on Sunday. I mean he likes to 511 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: play against the Sea Hid. If there's someone that's sacked 512 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson as much as anyone, it's probably used to 513 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: think Class Campbell and then Chandler Jones took up the man. Yeah, 514 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: Class had three and like one half, Yeah against Russell 515 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: Wilson and then well Chandler had four two years ago 516 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: up there in Seattle. Do the players like playing in 517 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: Seattle because of the atmosphere. I love it. That's I 518 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: think they absolutely love it. And this team especially, they 519 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: might really want to get back on the road after 520 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: all this home garbonds. I mean, if they need energy 521 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: and intensity. Like I said, take four quarters of football 522 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: in Seattle where the twelves who take themselves way too seriously, 523 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: and there they are behind the bench and they've been 524 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: working themselves into a lather and they're saying and there's 525 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: the Heckler guy in the corner with the signs and 526 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: all the jokes and all that sort of stuff. Speaking 527 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: of Clays is still the best moment ever perhaps in 528 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals at Seattle history, was when the Heckler guy had 529 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: a sign holding it to his right and he was 530 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: looking left screaming at some cardinal in six foot eight class. 531 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: Campbell reached up and grabbed that sign out of his 532 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: hand and he ripped it in half. He did. It 533 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: was quality. I remember that game. Is that is that 534 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: better than that sign? That Derek took a picture of 535 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray coming out of the tunnel and they said, 536 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's a bus like Johnny Menziel or something like that. 537 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: The guy. That's the same guy. That's the same guy. 538 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: Say wow, we should have him on the podcast since 539 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: he is I think his name is rob by the way. 540 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: The players know him by his first name, and it's 541 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: Rob or Ron. Sort of yeah, sort although he insulted 542 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: me two years ago last time we were in the 543 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: building and I was down on the field, I was 544 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: personally offended. I was walking out somehow I got down 545 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: to the field really quick, and there was nobody in 546 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: the tunnel. There was nobody near that side of the field. 547 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: It was a good fifteen minutes before kick and I'm 548 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: walking out and the guy. The guy's hanging over the 549 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: rail and he's looking down the tunnel. I'm like, oh no, 550 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: here it comes. Oh my goodness, I'm fresh meat. Here 551 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: we go. And I got my head down and I'm walking. 552 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: He goes, hey, yeah, you he's back. My daughter has 553 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: that backpack. She's in fourth grade. And he ripped my 554 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: backpack because it kind of had some colors to it 555 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: and sort of like some Neon green on it. It 556 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: was a little fair. The age demo of the backpack 557 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: definitely didn't fit yours truly. It was sort of like 558 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: a midlife crisis backpack. It wasn't exactly dominic Rodgers Kumardi No, 559 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: but it was a little too flamboyant for yours truly, 560 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, he hurt my feelings. And I got 561 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: a new backpack. I had something neon green. Was it 562 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: some buzzlight eared type the back There was a cartoon 563 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 1: characters on it or anything. I mean, it wasn't like 564 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: my lunch box that used to take a third grade 565 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: fully bag. I will I will see me us a 566 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: monicum a decorum over here. I feel like I feel 567 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: like it could be good news that the last weather 568 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: check I saw, I said it wasn't supposed to rain 569 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: on Sunday. So here's the problem for you, is that 570 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: there's weather expected on Friday and Saturday and Monday. And 571 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: you're telling me that the meteorologists are gonna nail the 572 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: Sunday window with no rain. Come on, now the margin 573 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: are you know? It's gonna bleed over one way or 574 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: the other and we're gonna get trenched on Sunday. That's 575 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 1: what someone told me. I refused. I refused to look 576 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: till Friday. Here's what I've got right now on Verizon 577 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: Standard Weather Friday forty seven cloudy Saturday, forty seven cloudy Sunday, 578 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: forty seven cloudy, thirty percent chance of rain on Monday, 579 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: so it'll be chilly. Look no rain in Seattle. But 580 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: more importantly, my new mantram, my new hashtag, no Lambeau. 581 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: You got to figure out a way to regain the 582 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: advantage on the Green Bay Packers in the NFC standings. Nobody, 583 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: and I mean nobody wants a stinking game in late 584 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: January at Lambeau Field. So whatever the Cardinals are looking 585 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: for for motivation these days, there should be a hashtag 586 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: on the white grease board in the locker room if 587 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: they still have that, and it should read no Lambeau 588 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: and that should be the motivation each and every game, 589 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: whether you're playing a division rival or not. Who's with 590 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: me on that? I'm fully on no Lambeau. But we'll 591 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: have to see where that goes. You just got through 592 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: telling us that the Packers are playing better on defense, 593 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: and in fact, you know what used the Packers game 594 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: plan against Seattle. Did you see what Tyler Locket and 595 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: dcon Metcalf did not do? They were five for forty. 596 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: They had five catches combined for forty nine yards on 597 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: sixteen targets. Let me say that again. Five catches on 598 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: sixteen targets for only forty nine yards and with a 599 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: minute to go in the game, dk Metcalf got ejected. 600 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: He got into it and tore someone's face mask and 601 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: they eject and then he tried to check himself back 602 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: into the game and make his way out to the 603 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: huddle and shuffle him off the field again, kind of 604 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: like the anti hero DeAndre Hopkins getting back on the 605 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: field when you're not supposed to. Different reasons. Yeah, I mean, 606 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: I don't know how many of their targets were uncatchable 607 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: if if Russell was off true good point, Yeah, if 608 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: he's airmailing and sailing balls all over the yard and 609 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: they had weather up there. Um here's the other thing, uh, 610 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: Young Marco Wilson takes solace in the fact that Carlos 611 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: Dunlap got flagged up four throwing a shoe. Throwing a shoe. Yeah, 612 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: I saw that. Honestly, I never thought we'd ever see 613 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: that again. And I didn't even I wasn't even only 614 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: somewhat aware that had happened to football seasons ago in 615 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: the college when Marco Wilson did it right, I wasting 616 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: the game, So I remember that, okay, And I'm like, so, anyway, 617 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: there's Carlos Dunlap and he throws the shoe and the 618 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: fifteen yard flag. So Marco Wilson takes solace in that. 619 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: And as they go up against you know, a Seattle 620 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: team that I'm not sure what to make of him. 621 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: Aj Dillon ran straight over Bobby Wagner more than once. 622 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: So James Conner, you know how that's Seattle defense I 623 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: haven't bought from day one. The old line is not 624 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: good again. Dwayne Brown left the game with a hip injury. 625 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: They're starting left tackle. So to me, look beyond just 626 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: being motivated and fired up and at Seattle, and you've 627 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: won five of your last seven games, right if you're 628 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: the Cardinals at Seattle. This Seahawks team is three and 629 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: six for a reason, and there has to be motivation 630 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: to get the ground game going once again. Because in 631 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: week eleven, I remember I was going on to our 632 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: halftime show and on Spanish radio, and I came across 633 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: James Conner stats and he had like two Russia times 634 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: for three yards or three Russia times for three yards 635 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: at the half down twenty three to zero. So that's 636 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: definitely gonna have to be a point of focus for 637 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: those in the Cardinals. You mentioned AJ Dillon. I was 638 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: playing against him in one of my fantasy matchups and 639 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 1: he put up a thirty piece on me. So that 640 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: says that now that you can run on that Seattle 641 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: defensive line that hasn't necessarily been playing well the past 642 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: couple of years. I'm as well. And you know, to 643 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: your point about AJ Dillon, that was a three nothing 644 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: game going to the fourth quarter, lambo, and guess what. 645 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: The green Bay offense wore down the Seattle defense. Aj 646 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: Dillon got loose late in that one, got into the 647 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: end zone. And so James Connor, if you're gonna run 648 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: him against Seattle defense, it just got brutalized against Green Bay. 649 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: Guess what. In the second half, you might start turning 650 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: some of those twenty two dives into chunk runs. But again, 651 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: you can't turn the ball over early in the game. 652 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: You have to be willing to play defense. I mean, 653 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: Chris Carson could be back for this game. I'm not 654 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: sure who they got running the ball right now. I 655 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: think it was Alex Collins last week. Obviously, they struggled 656 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: moving the ball a ton and Russell Wilson's gonna want 657 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: to get back throwing the ball better. But you've got 658 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: to be able to stop them. And you know Pete 659 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: Carroll's gonna want to run the ball, So you better 660 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: be in a position where James Connor can wear them 661 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: by carrying the ball out. And the only way that 662 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: happens if the game stays close. You can't turn it over. 663 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: You can't give him short fields. When you're down three 664 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: scores seventeen nothing by the end of the first quarter. Yeah, 665 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: that changes your game plan in your playcoll There's no 666 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: doubt about it. So Colt McCoy, what do you make 667 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: heul McCoy, Is he as someone a deptly wrote here 668 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: Darren every Is he the Niners colt? Or is the 669 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: Carolina colt? Or is he someone else entirely? What do 670 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: we make of Cole McCoy's We have two very different 671 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: sample sizes so far this season. I think he reached 672 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: his peak against the forty nine ers, and the forty 673 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: nine ers in that specific game he had the benefit 674 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: of that defense not necessarily being able to game plan 675 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: for him just because they haven't they hadn't seen a 676 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: quote McCoy on the Cliff Keensbury in the regular season 677 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: up to that specific point. Right fast forward to Carolina. 678 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: Now you have some tape on quote McCoy, and guess 679 00:33:55,320 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: what this playbook isn't designed for, quote mccoya. Steve Kind 680 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: built this team around Kyler Murray, around his skill set, 681 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,479 Speaker 1: around him being able to roll out and complete passes 682 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: on the run. You know that type of vibe and 683 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: Cooe McCoy. I mean, he succeeded to an extent with 684 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, and I think that's the type 685 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: of game plan you got, you have to have. Now, 686 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: he tried to put on his best Kyler Murray impression 687 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: on that interception against the Panthers when he rolled out 688 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 1: and he tried to throw that you know, that pass 689 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: across the field as he was running out to his right. 690 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: But I mean, as long as you succeed in the pocket, 691 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: as long as you protect him in the pocket, you 692 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 1: give him time to go through his progressions to get 693 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: to his second his third read type of thing. That's 694 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: the type of cooemcore you're gonna get. You're gonna get 695 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: a Coo McCoy against the forty nine ers. Now, if 696 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: you don't necessarily protect him the right way and you 697 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: don't give him time, then you're going to see the 698 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: Carolina coupe McCoy. But I think he's reached to speak 699 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: in this playbook. There's not You can't open it up 700 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: that much for a Kope McCoy just because he's not 701 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: necessary that agile, he's not know that fast, and he 702 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: can't necessarily evade sacks and a voice as the way 703 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray has done. So I think he's reached to speak. 704 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: I see, Here's what I mean. Is he Kyler Murray 705 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: is not Kyler Murray. But like the interception play is 706 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: a great example. I think that was a fine play call. 707 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: I don't think there was anything wrong with that play call. 708 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 1: The problem was that Colt McCoy, for whatever reason, which 709 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: he's not supposed to do at his age and with 710 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: his experience, is stopping and throwing back across the middle. 711 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: I have no idea why he did that. He had 712 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: rondale More about six yards right in front of him, 713 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: with nobody within five yards. You tossed the ball to 714 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 1: rondeal More. You let him get eight or ten yards, 715 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: and you keep a drive that had been looking very 716 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: good otherwise, that play worked to perfection. He had Rondeal 717 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: Moore right there. I mean, that's what you want. He 718 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: got greedy Am, he got greedy Antwoine Wesley was open, 719 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: but it was gonna have to be a I mean, 720 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: utmost top notch throw to get it there. And then 721 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: he skied him. Yeah, because you know he's on the run. 722 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: He didn't set his feed and yeah, that's not his deal. 723 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: The whole baseball arm angles, throwing side arm on the 724 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: run like a middle infielder like Kyler and Patrick Mahomes 725 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson can do. You can count those guys 726 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: on one hand. No, and you're not going to do 727 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: those things. But it's you know again, I don't think 728 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: he did a ton of those things. The forty nine ers. 729 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't like, it wasn't like what they did against 730 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: the Panthers was a lot different than they did against 731 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. I don't think. I mean, I 732 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: think the Panthers are better defensively. I think the Panthers 733 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 1: definitely have more speed side to side then the forty 734 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: nine ers do defensively. I think that hurt them. And yeah, 735 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: the Colt McCoy. Most quarterbacks aren't going to complete eighty 736 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: five percent of their passes in a game, which is 737 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: what he did against the forty nine ers. That was 738 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: just a great game. Even Colt said it after the 739 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: Niners game. He said, look, I told the guys in 740 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: the huddle, I'm gonna get the ball out quick. Yeah. 741 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: So what did Carolina do most of the time? From 742 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: what I could tell from the sideline, they went press man. Yeah. 743 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: They didn't give their receivers any sort of cushion. So now, 744 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden has taken longer for routes to develop, 745 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: and the old line didn't bring their a game against 746 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: a stout and motivated Carolina pass rushing front and game over, 747 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: I think that that was a key. I mean, it's 748 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: not like the forty nine Ers defensive line is at 749 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: the bottom half of every statistical category. I mean they have, 750 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: you know, they have the Bosses and the Jones and whatnot, 751 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 1: but that I think the key was the offensive line 752 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: and pass protection. They didn't necessarily do the best job. 753 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: In Week eleven. I personally think DJ Humphries had you know, 754 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: one of his least productive games as an Arizona Cardinals. 755 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: But that's when you start missing guys like veterans Justin 756 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: Pugh and Max Garcia. Who Max Scarcia already I think 757 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: he solidified his position at right I write guard from 758 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: his performances so by the season, and Cliff Cliff already 759 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: said that when he talked on this week about getting 760 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: guys back, he goes, it's tough when you're missing your 761 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: two starting guards. So he basically is calling Max Scarcia 762 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: a starting guard at this point, which, yeah, that's that's 763 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: a problem. Week before, he said it was a coach's decision, right, 764 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: Max Garcia in the game for Josh Jones. Yeah, so 765 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: it wasn't a matter of health or anything like that. 766 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 1: Here was the thing do we need to do Cardinals 767 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 1: Fans need to get ready for that team to look 768 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: the same two weeks in a row. Are they just 769 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: biding their time until they get to the bye? Is 770 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: this a team that you're concerned all Darren that Okay, 771 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: wait a minute, you know they got to eight and 772 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: one and they're like, hey, you know what, now we 773 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: just need to get to the bye and we can 774 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: afford a couple of losses until we get our quarterback healthy. 775 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: You know, I think that's a definite concern. In fact, 776 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: ask Christian Kirk that question and he basically said, it's 777 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: understandable by why we would be thinking about the bye, 778 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: but we've done a nice job of taking things one 779 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: week at a time. This is again why I think 780 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: when you start saying, hey, this is a must win. Look, 781 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: it would be great if they could win. It's a 782 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: team they should beat. And if they play sound football, 783 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: they don't have to play great football. But I think 784 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: if they if they play sound football, I don't turn 785 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: the ball over and Cole McCoy can do that if 786 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,720 Speaker 1: he's playing. I think they're better than the Seahawks. So 787 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: there's that, But I mean, you can't You're not where 788 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be right now. You gotta get Kyler 789 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: Murray back on the field. You're gonna get you need 790 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: to get DeAndre Hopkins back on the field. If you 791 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: don't have those guys, it's gonna be hard to go 792 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: anywhere in the postseason. And the other thing about the 793 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,760 Speaker 1: must win thing is at this point one, this team 794 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 1: is really good on the road. So maybe having a 795 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: couple of playoff road games isn't the worst thing in 796 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: the world. Not ideal, but okay. And then two, there 797 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: is no dominant team in the NFC. There's just not that. 798 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 1: It's it's all up for grabs. It's gonna be who's 799 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: playing best at the right time of year. And I 800 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 1: think the Cardinals are in that mix if they're healthy, 801 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: as long as they can play better. I mean, I 802 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: don't think this team should be afraid of the Rams. 803 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 1: I don't think this team should be afraid of the Buccaneers. 804 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: I'm no, they're not afraid of the Packers. And that 805 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: doesn't mean those teams can't all beat the Cardinals in 806 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: the playoffs or whatever. But I'm also saying that the 807 00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: Cardinals can beat those teams. I mean to after they 808 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: after the Rams got Odell Beckham, after they got Von Miller, 809 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 1: basically every said, well, the Rams are gonna win the NFC. 810 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: Then they lost, and then it was like, Okay, the 811 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,439 Speaker 1: Rams still are a really good team. Then they got 812 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. Then it's like, uh, they're gonna win the NFC. 813 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: Then they just lost again. And now I finally see 814 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: some of the narrative being like, we are the Rams 815 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: any good or are they just a pretender? And it's 816 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: just like that's where these narratives bounced back and forth 817 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: over and over and over and over, and it's like, again, 818 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: let's see where we are. Those last couple of weeks 819 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: in the regular season, somebody said after they lost this 820 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 1: week for the Rams, they went from being everybody's darling 821 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: to winning the NFC too. If the season ended today, 822 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: they would have to go. Let me remember the path 823 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 1: it was. I believe it was at Packers, then assuming 824 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers won at Bucks, and then assuming the favorites 825 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: win at Cardinals or at Cowboys. I don't know if 826 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: the Rams are making a super Bowl with a gauntlet 827 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: like that. I don't know if anybody is. So you know, again, 828 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: I think there's so much more football. That's why I 829 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: struggle when you say Philip a must win, because I 830 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot to be determined, and 831 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent sure you know of where 832 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: we are in terms of everybody else's uh schedules. Either 833 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 1: the Cardinals have a lot that they can control. Even 834 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: if they lose this game, they still play the Rams. Again, 835 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: they still play the Cowboys, So let's see what that play. 836 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of going into a buy without 837 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: playing Kylie Murray DeAnda Hopkins. So then when you go 838 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: to hurt, then when you well, that's a different story. 839 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: But but that's what that's the story we're talking about though, Right, 840 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: But if he's well enough to go, even at eighty percent, man, 841 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you play him? I mean, do you want 842 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: to go into the BUYEO potentially losing two games in 843 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: a row? Okay, let me ask you this question, is 844 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: what is a bigger risk to you eight and three 845 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: and having Kyler Murray essentially one hundred percent coming or 846 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: possibly going nine and two because you don't know, and 847 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: potentially having Kyler Murray end up with his ankle getting 848 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: reinjured to the point where you go all the way 849 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: back to where he started from. Is that worth that one, 850 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: Winty when you might not get it anyways? I mean, 851 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: do you want Kyler Murray to miss four weeks and 852 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: come into the last quarter of the season out of rhythm? 853 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 1: I mean, you saw what Russell Wilson went through ute 854 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: unquote out of rhythm than potentially wrenching his ankle and 855 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: never being right. I mean, at some point he's gonna 856 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: have to deal with it. I mean you think he's 857 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 1: you think coming you think coming off to buy he's 858 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: gonna be one hundred percent health. I don't think that. 859 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: But let me ask you this question. You talk about 860 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,800 Speaker 1: out of rhythm. Was he out of rhythm against Tennessee 861 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: He didn't play in the preseason. He looked pretty good 862 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: that day. I just I feel like the injury thing 863 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: is absolutely top of priority for me. I'm not a coach, 864 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: and I don't know where he is. And maybe he 865 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 1: is to the point where he walks in and he's 866 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: already nine and we're getting some gamesmanship here and they're 867 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: going to drop him back in there. I mean, he 868 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: did it last year. He wasn't one hundred percent with 869 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: the shoulder injury, and if you look at his running 870 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,919 Speaker 1: stats over the second half of last season, they went 871 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,399 Speaker 1: down dramatically. Well, we don't have to worry about that, right. 872 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: So but what I'm saying, he has played injured before, Yes, 873 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,439 Speaker 1: he hasn't. So I guess I'm somewhere in between you guys. 874 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: You know, if he can play and be effective, even 875 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: in a different way, I'm confident he'll go. At the 876 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: same time, they're certainly not going to jeopardize football in 877 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: January and beyond by playing in November when you're eight 878 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: and two. Now do you run the risk of your 879 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: Week twelve by becoming a week ten by and a 880 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: week eleven bye? And you basically give yourself three weeks 881 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 1: in a row off. Yeah, that is a problem. That 882 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: is a problem. I get it. But then again, the 883 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: rest of your division isn't giving you much to write 884 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 1: home about. The Niners just beat the Ramps for the 885 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: fifth straight time, and you got a Ram team. I 886 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: agree with Darren. There's a lot of denial going on 887 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: in LA. When Sean McVeigh after the game says this 888 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,760 Speaker 1: was a humbling night and then goes on to say, quote, 889 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: I refuse to believe that the last couple of weeks 890 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 1: are who we are, even though you're only as good 891 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: as your last game. So really he's conflicting himself and 892 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: that that statement right there. But guess what, no, that 893 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: is you. I use this theory with Wolf last Friday 894 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: going in to this week ten games, and I said, 895 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 1: here's my theory on the Rams. Okay, in true LA fashion, 896 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: the Rams just keep getting more cosmetic surgery like you 897 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,399 Speaker 1: do in SoCal. They're getting a facelift here they went 898 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: in for another botox injection. You know. Oh, they got 899 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: calf implants, and they got a tummy tuck and they 900 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,240 Speaker 1: got a butt left. You know, because maybe, just maybe 901 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: they're trying to conceal the fact that they looked in 902 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: the mirror after Week four and they're not as good 903 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 1: looking as the Arizona Cardinals. Maybe just maybe they said, hey, 904 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 1: we don't have to leave our own home stadium from 905 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: we seventeen all the way through Super Bowl fifty six. 906 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,919 Speaker 1: Oh guess what the reality is, we might not get 907 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 1: out of our own division. So it's quick. Somebody trade 908 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: for von Miller. Somebody pulled the trigger on O b J. Yeah, 909 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: they're panicking to some degree because they are not who 910 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: everybody thought they were going to be coming into this season. 911 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 1: As someone said just this morning the NFL network, at 912 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 1: what point did everyone decide that the Rams are just 913 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: going to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl because 914 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: it was in their building this year? You're right, but 915 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: I feel like it wasn't just one person. I feel 916 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: like everybody was doing it. It was cud think, including 917 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: the NFL Network, including that same show that you're mentioning. 918 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: By the way, Okay, you saw it, So I love that. 919 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: You know, wasn't me, No, it was it because you 920 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: know we've seen that team. Look, the Rams went against 921 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: the Cardinals and what happened. Just to bolster one, I 922 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: just said, Aaron Donald had the worst pass rushing grade 923 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: of his career, and the Rams said, oh, we better 924 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: get some reinforced bringing Von Miller Cooper Cup had five 925 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: catches on thirteen targets, and the headlines screamed as we 926 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,320 Speaker 1: mentioned a Cardinal's underground brought to you by Pacific Office Automation. 927 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: Empty Cup was a headline in LA. He was a 928 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 1: non factor. So they said we better bring a OBJ. 929 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: By the way, how how delicious is it? It wasn't 930 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: Obj throwing the tantrum on the Rams sideline. It was 931 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 1: jail on Ramsey. So now now they have two potential 932 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 1: grenades in that locker room. At any point, any one 933 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: of those guys is gonna go off on the sideline 934 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 1: and kick a kick a net in the sideline, have 935 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: it backfire in his face. I'm gonna just say right 936 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: now that grenade is underutilized term. You know, as much 937 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: as we enjoy bagging on the Seahawks, you know the 938 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,720 Speaker 1: Rams are becoming our new favorite team to rant about 939 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: at this point, because at some point somebody crowned him 940 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,720 Speaker 1: and they are not worthy, not yet. Even the on Twitter, 941 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 1: I saw the NFL count like greek quote a post 942 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 1: a graphic with von Donald and Ramsey, and it was like, 943 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: you don't want to face his defense. And then someone 944 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: I think the team reported for the forty nine ers, 945 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: she requoted that same Graphican was like this age well 946 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: because of and they also there was also one out 947 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 1: there that says, after they got Beckham, who's going to 948 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 1: stop this offense themselves? I guess it was the forty 949 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: nine ers. Now, granted that that tweet went out before 950 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,919 Speaker 1: Robert Woods got hurt, and I think we all saw 951 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,320 Speaker 1: how important Robert Woods is and I do expect Odell 952 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: Beckham to become more familiar with the offense. But I 953 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,839 Speaker 1: really like that analogy, Paul. I mean, I gotta give 954 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 1: you major props, and you know how loath I am 955 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 1: to do that. Well. I may or may not have 956 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: a younger brother who lives in la and barely knows 957 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: a football from a foosball, but he's among those who 958 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 1: have jumped the Rams badwagon. So he's been insufferable on 959 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 1: my text messages. So maybe maybe that has helped us 960 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: stoke the fire in the ire of money my younger brothers. 961 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: I have not talked to him there. How do people 962 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: become Rams fans if they just went, Well, you know, 963 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: some of us are old enough Philippe that we've lived 964 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 1: here before where the Cardinals moved here, so we had 965 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: to find other teams. That's That's like, you know, I 966 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,800 Speaker 1: have a lot of family in Mexico who they're Dodger fans, 967 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: but that was before the d Backs came into town. 968 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: So I guess it makes sense. Yeah, it's he's been 969 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: a Rams fan for since he was like eight, so 970 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: I can't really get mad at him. So, look, you've 971 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,280 Speaker 1: got a Cardinals team that's going into Seattle, and honestly, 972 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 1: if it wasn't for the quarterback question, because it's such 973 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,760 Speaker 1: an unknown, it's such an uncertainty and it's so vital 974 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: to any team's chance at winning, I would be fully 975 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 1: on board the Cardinals rebounding in much like a fashion 976 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 1: we saw of Buffalo and Dallas. Honestly, just based on 977 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 1: what I've seen for fifteen years in that Cardinal sideline 978 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 1: of how the Cardinals always get fired up by that 979 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: Seahawks crowd that they're really to me, is very little 980 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: chance of them face planning again with no one tensity, urgency, aggressiveness. 981 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: When you're going into Seattle, especially going into a bye week, 982 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: it's always a concern. But but where are the Arizona 983 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 1: Cardinals when it comes to the quarterback, because even if 984 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 1: there's a little weather up there, Darren, I know I 985 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: screwed this up earlier, but there was one year they 986 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 1: went up there and Max Hall was a guy and 987 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: he just didn't have the arm strength to cut through 988 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,840 Speaker 1: that Seattle win. Nope, and that that was an epic fail. 989 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 1: And when his ball is fluttering in the wind and 990 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 1: coming back like a lame punt, that was a problem. Um, 991 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you in on a secret. The whole 992 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 1: Max Hall thing wasn't epic fail. But that's that's neither 993 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 1: here nor there that summarizes the whole experience. It's not 994 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 1: just that game he beat Drew Bizzo and he always 995 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: got decapitated at the goal. The Cardinals in Max Hall. 996 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: The Cardinals when Max Hall was playing quarterback beat the Saints, 997 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 1: who happened to have Drew Brees at quarterback. Let's not 998 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 1: say Max Hall beat Drew Brees. I was at that game, 999 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 1: Paul was at that game. That's not exactly how it 1000 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,240 Speaker 1: played out. But anyway, and look, it's nothing personal against 1001 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 1: Max and his not because we had him on the 1002 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,439 Speaker 1: Big Red Rage that very next week. He was outstanding. 1003 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,399 Speaker 1: He was great, Moxie. That's those moments you're like, did 1004 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 1: that really happen? And that was for a week. It 1005 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 1: was the greatest story in the NFL. UM. I will 1006 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 1: say that I agree that the Cardinals are going to 1007 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: bounce back strongly in this game. I do not expect 1008 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: them to be flat. But I also expect the Seattle Seahawks, 1009 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 1: if they have any hope in this season at all, 1010 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 1: and there is still hope because of the seven playoff spots, 1011 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,399 Speaker 1: that if they could get on a winning streak, they 1012 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: can sneak in. Russell Wilson's gonna be ticked off. He 1013 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: played poorly. He's gonna want to play better, you know, 1014 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: DK metcalf is gonna want to play better. Um. I 1015 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,399 Speaker 1: was actually hoping for a while with all that in there, 1016 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 1: that Seattle would end up with Odell Beckham because I 1017 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,359 Speaker 1: just thought talk about a grenade. I just thought that 1018 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,839 Speaker 1: was going to really be a problem, but um, it 1019 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: didn't happen that way. But I expect this to be 1020 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: a close game. I hope the Cardinals can dominate. I 1021 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: think they are when their heads are on straight and 1022 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,439 Speaker 1: everything goes well, I think they are a significantly better team. 1023 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,919 Speaker 1: But it is a road game and you just never 1024 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 1: know what might happen. And look, the Cardinals could see 1025 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,959 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers in the playoffs. They could see 1026 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,399 Speaker 1: Carolina in the playoffs. The standing stat I just saw 1027 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 1: was every single team that is that is that is 1028 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 1: below five hundred or is five hundred or below in 1029 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 1: the NFC is within one and a half games of 1030 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 1: a playoff spot. Other than the Detroit Lions, that's it. 1031 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,359 Speaker 1: Everyone else as either five or six losses. Hence you're 1032 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: within a game and a half of a playoff spot. 1033 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: That's seventh and final playoffs spot in the NFC. Can 1034 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,959 Speaker 1: I just get something off my chest that has nothing 1035 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 1: to do with you, guys. So I was about to go, 1036 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 1: but I was just gonna double down on my must 1037 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 1: win takes. It's a must win for the Seahawks as well. 1038 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,799 Speaker 1: You know there's someone that can break up this they 1039 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,879 Speaker 1: must win. That's what happens when you're three and seven, 1040 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,839 Speaker 1: you're if there's someone that can break up this debate there, 1041 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: let's have Paw decide. Is this some must win for 1042 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: the Thrizona Cardinals. Does kylermer you have to play? No 1043 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals. No for the Seahawks who are 1044 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 1: one in three at home right now. Yes, I would 1045 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: say so, although once again, the NFC is so wide open. 1046 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 1: I could see Russell real and off five out of 1047 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: six end the year. It's funny I've heard, and it's 1048 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 1: been less less recently, but I've heard people talking about 1049 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,880 Speaker 1: because of the playoffs this year, because of they expanded playoffs, 1050 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 1: because of the they had the same expanded playoffs last year. 1051 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,760 Speaker 1: It drives me up the wall, like people are making 1052 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: it sound like there's expanded playoffs this year for the 1053 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 1: first time. There is not that playoff spot that the 1054 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 1: Cardinals were playing for last year. That true, that was 1055 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 1: the seventh spot change that was already extra playoffs. So 1056 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 1: there is no extra playoff spot this year. I just 1057 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 1: needed to get that off my chapter. The Niners loss 1058 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 1: and after the Rams lost end last season, I expunged 1059 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: any recollection of the whole playoffs scenario out of my 1060 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:49,919 Speaker 1: car I think you said it. It was other people 1061 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,319 Speaker 1: that had said it. I don't think you said it. 1062 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,400 Speaker 1: I think that's I'm I'm steering clear of criticizing anybody 1063 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 1: in this room, by the way, far as I know. 1064 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 1: I'll just end with this, do you really want to 1065 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,759 Speaker 1: play Carroll in the postseason? Based on what Matt rule 1066 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 1: in Phil Snow their defensive coordinator, have done against the 1067 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals two years in a row. And I know that 1068 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 1: once upon a time in two thousand and eight, Carolina 1069 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 1: had its way with the Arizona Cardinals, and the Cardinals 1070 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: went to Carolina and exacted some serious revenge with a 1071 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 1: five touchdown jack stomping of Jake Deloma company. Jake Lollom 1072 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: was apologizing to his own huddle. By the end of 1073 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: that game. He had a five turnover game if memory 1074 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,320 Speaker 1: serves six six, So maybe it was five picks in 1075 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 1: a fumble and so, but looking at that Carolina team, 1076 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 1: there are certain right NBA matchups that you know are 1077 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 1: not good for certain teams, and for whatever reason, Carolina 1078 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 1: matches up real well. Based in the last two years 1079 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 1: with Cardinals offense, But going back to that NBA example. 1080 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 1: In the NBA, when you have a superstar, it doesn't 1081 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 1: matter where you play, what the weather's like, what the 1082 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: score is, or what the series score is. If you 1083 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 1: have a Lebron James and Kevin Durant on your team, 1084 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,319 Speaker 1: I mean, none of that matters. I mean, if Kyler 1085 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 1: Murray plays to the standard that a lot of the 1086 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: fan base is hoping he plays up to, and he 1087 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,760 Speaker 1: plays up to that Pro Bowl standard that he played 1088 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 1: to last year, and he comes back healthy from that 1089 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 1: ankle injury, and he's one of the and he ends 1090 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 1: up winning an MVP and or he's a top MVP candidate, 1091 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,359 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where you play in the postseason. As 1092 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 1: long as you have Kyler Murray play the Panthers, you 1093 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 1: can go to Lambeau and come out come out with 1094 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 1: the win. So it all really depends on your superstar. 1095 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, if you're if you 1096 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 1: have a pair a group of superstars, and DeAndre Hopkins 1097 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray and then on the defensive side and 1098 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones and Buddha Baker and co. I mean, does 1099 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,920 Speaker 1: it really matter where you play. It's gonna be interesting 1100 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 1: to me when you talk about the Panthers. Can you 1101 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 1: imagine a playoff Let's say everybody's healthy. Let's say Hopkins 1102 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 1: is playing, and Kyler's playing, and Christian McCaffrey's healthy, and 1103 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,319 Speaker 1: Cam Newton now has had half a season to get 1104 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,319 Speaker 1: ready as the starter's a That's an interesting playoff game 1105 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,640 Speaker 1: to me. But did the Cardinals defense do against Cam 1106 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,879 Speaker 1: Newton last view when he was with the Patriots? I mean, 1107 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 1: Cam Newton was, That's what I'm But the thing is is, 1108 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:11,320 Speaker 1: again I number one, the Patriots didn't have Christian McCaffrey, 1109 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 1: and Christian McCaffrey has now proven in two games that 1110 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: he can have his way with the Cardinals advanced Joseph Now, 1111 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 1: hopefully that can change. But as of right now, and 1112 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 1: again more to Paul's point, what does that defense due 1113 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 1: to Kyler Murray? They couldn't do anything last year in 1114 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 1: Carolina and they didn't have a son Reddick yet, you know, 1115 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 1: and that's kind of where I want to see, and 1116 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 1: we're getting way ahead of ourselves. They would have to 1117 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,280 Speaker 1: meet in the playoffs and there's a lot of football 1118 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,359 Speaker 1: left to be played. But you know, again, that's the thing. 1119 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 1: Although I will say this. I'm getting tired of like 1120 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 1: that isn't I agree with Zach Allen, You're gonna see 1121 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 1: that run play. But fans don't need to tell me 1122 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 1: while there's the blueprint, there's the blueprint. The only way 1123 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,479 Speaker 1: that what the Panthers did is a blueprint is if 1124 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 1: all these defenses like Seattle, which does not have the 1125 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 1: defensive personnel of the Panthers, get the defensive personnel the 1126 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 1: Panthers in one week. Can't happen. It just because you 1127 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 1: play a certain way. If you don't have the players, 1128 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 1: it's not gonna work. And by the way, Zach, it's 1129 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 1: what Zach Allen didn't say, which you can kind of 1130 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 1: read between the lines and line of the other interviews, 1131 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,839 Speaker 1: and it goes something like this. Once the Cardinals got 1132 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 1: down three scores, seventeen nothing at the end of the 1133 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,439 Speaker 1: first quarter, everybody tried to make a seventeen point play. Yep, 1134 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,879 Speaker 1: everybody was out of their game. Hit the five run 1135 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,760 Speaker 1: home run exactly, and everyone got out of their gap. 1136 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 1: And guys didn't know how many times did Jalen Thompson 1137 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 1: tell the media, guys just need to be where they 1138 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,239 Speaker 1: need to be. Christian Kirk we got to follow the 1139 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 1: game plan. Everybody tried to start freelancing. There was some desperation, Oh, 1140 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the guy that turns us around and 1141 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 1: gives us a spark. I'm gonna make the big play. No, 1142 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 1: you just made the big mistake because you weren't in 1143 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 1: the right place and it just broke down. And now 1144 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey's loose to the second level. And they had 1145 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,959 Speaker 1: some of that earlier in the year. Guys weren't as 1146 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 1: disciplined and focused, and they were told by certain coaches, 1147 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: guess what, follow the playbook and the game plan, or 1148 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,800 Speaker 1: you'll be on the bench. And if you follow the 1149 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,799 Speaker 1: game book and the game plan in the playbook and 1150 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 1: you're where you're supposed to be, there's enough plays coming 1151 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 1: your way that you'll fill the statuet that will happen. 1152 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 1: It will benefit you ultimately. So and so I saw 1153 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 1: a lot of that going on out there, but nobody's 1154 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 1: gonna call it a teammate on that. And so we'll 1155 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 1: see what the narrative is the rest of the week. 1156 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: And to Darren's point, if the Cardinals go on the road, 1157 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 1: guess what, you're right. They obviously have played very well 1158 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 1: on the road, and it happens to focus a team 1159 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: that at times apparently needs it. Now, I don't and 1160 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 1: I know we already talked about this, but I'm gonna reiterate. 1161 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to go to Lambeau, not in jam 1162 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 1: Oh no, No, I'm already kind of dreading that Chicago game. 1163 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's your neck of the woods kind of Paul, Yeah, 1164 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 1: trips to Chicago Detroit. I'm sure you'll enjoy whatever weather 1165 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 1: is going to be coming off the lake on December eighth. 1166 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 1: It could be sick degrees, it could be sixty below. 1167 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 1: You have no idea. In early December, it could be 1168 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 1: anything all the above. And if December, you know, it 1169 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 1: could be anything at that point in the year in Chicago, 1170 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 1: we'll see exactly what's happening. But yeah, the one Lambeau 1171 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:15,959 Speaker 1: and Lake Jane, and I don't care if they're selling 1172 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 1: a whole new issuing a stock. Did you see this? 1173 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 1: They're selling stock and the packers went for three hundred dollars. 1174 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 1: You can have a selling stock certificate. Yes, it's a 1175 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,320 Speaker 1: share of worthless stock. So there's two kinds of packers 1176 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 1: plus thirty five dollars shipping a handle. Oh so it's 1177 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 1: three thirty five the total to have a certificate for 1178 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: a worthless share of Packers stock. So if you know, 1179 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 1: if you're a true cheese head, I guess you're all in. 1180 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 1: And that's how they're going to raise tens of millions 1181 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 1: of dollars to do stadium renovations. Yes, Oh we have 1182 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 1: to do is sell worthless certificates to our fan base 1183 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 1: and then we've got a new video board. We've done 1184 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 1: that a few times. It is it is kind of funny. 1185 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 1: Somebody said it's it's a glorified go fund me, and 1186 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,000 Speaker 1: that's really true. But you get to sit in the 1187 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 1: sharehold of meeting, which I don't know what that really 1188 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 1: can this up? Okay, you do get to attend to 1189 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 1: shareholders meeting, and honestly, they do have to release at 1190 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 1: least some aspect of their books. Yeah, but that's public 1191 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 1: record anyway. Yes, but it's the only glance in any 1192 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 1: NFL teams in the books, and so you can actually 1193 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Talks of the world go through that 1194 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 1: tomb and they try and figure out different aspects of 1195 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,479 Speaker 1: a team's financial operation. I think, can they find out 1196 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 1: the people that actually investor whatever it is. Can they 1197 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 1: find out they're going to resign Aaron Rodgers next that 1198 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 1: doesn't quite worked out, well, maybe that's the benefit. Find 1199 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 1: out if Aaron Rodgers is coming back to Cardinals underground. Felipe, 1200 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 1: Just okay, I don't care what your I don't care 1201 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 1: what your financial advisor says. Don't don't go ahead and 1202 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,480 Speaker 1: put all your four oh one k into Packers stock. Okay, 1203 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 1: please please don't do that. You'll be working till your 1204 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 1: ninete is Like, I really want to like figure out 1205 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 1: if Aaron Rodgers is going to resign. I'm a reporter, 1206 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go ahead, and if Aaron Rodgers resigns, 1207 00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 1: the stock'll spike next week and I'll make a huge 1208 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,840 Speaker 1: killing on it. That's what you're saying, right, Lunch is 1209 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 1: for whims Wall Street, you know what I mean? Okay? 1210 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 1: All right? By the way, can I just leave you 1211 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,520 Speaker 1: with the Holy can only stat that I enjoyed more 1212 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 1: than anything that with Kansas winning at Texas And did 1213 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,160 Speaker 1: you guys see this? Maybe I'm late to the party 1214 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 1: on this that in the time that has elapsed since 1215 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 1: Kansas won a conference road game, Nick Saban has won 1216 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 1: six national championships. Think about that, Had it really been 1217 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,600 Speaker 1: that long? I had no idea. We all know Kansas 1218 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: has a wolf football program, but they hadn't won a 1219 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 1: conference road game in the time it took Nick Saban 1220 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 1: to win six national titles. So for everyone who was 1221 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 1: lamenting the Cardinals loss, the lackluster loss against Carolina, guess what, 1222 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 1: it really can't get worse football. You could be a 1223 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 1: Jayhawks football fan. Well, actually, in this case it could 1224 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:57,280 Speaker 1: be worse. You could be a Texas football fan. Yeah, 1225 01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 1: and on that mic drop from Darren Irman, that'll do 1226 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 1: it for this edition The Cardinals Underground, brought to you 1227 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:13,720 Speaker 1: by Pacific Office Automation M