WEBVTT - Episode 297 w/ DJ Red Alert 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:16.120 And it's Drink Chas motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary Queen's rapper. 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:18.520 He's agreed, is your boy in o R. He's a 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:22.440 Miami hippop pioneer. Up his DJ E f N. Together 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:25.560 they drinking up with some of the biggest players in 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:30.160 the most professional, unprofessional podcast and yet number one source 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:33.159 for drunk fast drink Chas motherfucking every day is New 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.879 Year's Eve. That it's time for drink Champs. Trick up, 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:45.199 motherfuck motherfucking would it could be hoping it's what it 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:47.479 should beat. This is your boy in right? What up 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:49.520 is d J E f N? And this is drink Chance. 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:58.960 Motherfucker Yappia makes un And as we always say before 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:02.000 we start a show, we say that this is a 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:05.080 legend that we're about to introduce. But I want to 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:09.200 take uh with Mr Lee just said off camera, he said, 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:13.120 this is a super legend. This is a super legend. 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:17.880 I remember waking up just to hear this man on 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.119 the radio trying to get you know what I mean, 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.080 not even thinking at this time, I wouldn't even think 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.360 about being a rapper. I just wanted to hear this. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:31.000 These people play on the radio and when I hit everybody, 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.440 what you do all the time before I do an interview, 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.640 I hit, I hit people, and I'll say, what does this? 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:38.960 You know you got a question for this guy? And 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.280 everyone just responded and wanted to show their love for 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:46.959 this super super super a legend. I mean, we just 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:51.520 heard he's celebrating the forty seven um year being a DJ. 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:57.360 Is that crue? I'm forty four years old, So I 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:59.560 let you know how much of a legend this is. 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:02.680 I mean when I say I am honored, I am 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:15.160 proud to have him on our show. Motherfucking cool DJ. Respect, man, respect, 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.520 not super respect to you man. Um, let's let's let's 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:20.960 let's let's let's. I won't pounce all over the place, 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:25.799 but one place I want to start with you is Violator. Yes, 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:30.600 the first time I ever you know, I eventually became Violator, 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.440 but first time I ever heard of Violator was with 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:37.520 you before I even heard uh. Later on became Baby Chris, 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.200 before I even heard of him. I heard that that 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:44.280 was your crew, Violators. Can you break that down for me? Violators? 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:48.600 That's right, it's five members and it started out in 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:53.600 Union Square. Wow, and that's downtowntown. You spread lower part 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:57.840 in midpart of midtown Manhattan. And I remember the first 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:02.200 day I started and five guys came to came in. 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.680 They said, yo, Bam, send us down here, like bam 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:09.280 send your bottom. Yeah, may send you all down here. 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.400 But I see what because y'all feel that, you know, 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.120 I would give a come into my own what I 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.840 was about to do. So they come on in. But 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:22.280 they had this thing about taking over people girls. That's 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:27.919 why they called violators. That's why I call them. Okay, okay, okay, 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:32.720 he was going there. You know, we all from uptown 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:39.240 and no Manhattan. The Bronx ain't know you're Spaklyn, right, 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:43.840 so you know, they feel like you know, but of 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.800 course had this rep but no, I saw some guys 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:52.320 coming with some girls, so they called themselves running up 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.320 on the girls and their arms around and walking over 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.240 and you know, God, and that's why I was gonna say, yo, man, 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.160 y'all can't be doing that's wrong with you'all. You're violating, man. 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:07.120 One thing leads to another. First, it was just it 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:10.360 was four guys, four or five guys, and two of 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:15.240 them mainly was Chris Lady and double one was called down. 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.520 We called him sneaky deep okay, the other day like 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.840 sped off from then here come two more the same thing. 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:25.360 Damn some mus done. All these guys from Branch River, 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:28.720 I say, yeah, yeah, come on in. So that's Chris 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:32.919 Ali and Big Rod and the last person you go 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.120 about the name of Hands, but we gave him a 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:39.480 nickname called Black Jesus. I'm gonna tell you why. As 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:43.760 dark skin as he is. But the Jemmy Colls look 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:47.640 like you're about to do a prayer. So that's why 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:54.400 I'm calling Black Jesus. So I need to ask right 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:56.600 now when Chris like now, now, this is Chris father. 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.240 This is Chris lady who came around when you said 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.599 when you say baby christ you talk about Chris ldy's father, 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:05.039 were talking about Chris like Chris like, okay, now was 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.839 he always supposed to Was he always had this plan 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:11.160 to be in management or what was his role? So 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.440 you don't understand during the time when Chris was coming 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:17.360 down with the Fellers, you know that people did not 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:21.240 know that Chris was going to school and working as 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:25.760 an electrician for Metro North, you know, and then on 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:27.479 his off time he come and hang out with the 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:30.200 Fellers and be so you know, he was a person 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:36.880 that was legant and cocky, didn't kill yes, but I 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.680 always saw that he had a you know, good head 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:43.040 on his shoulders. This way, anybody that's around eighteen years 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.400 old that had a job working as electrician and Metro 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:50.640 North while going to school, you know, you can utilize that. 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.760 So when the younger brothers stopped coming to form that's 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:59.279 my nephew right g North of Africa band and baby 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:03.080 Bam and um Sammy b I needed somebody to read 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:07.240 the road manager, so I pointed Chris to become the 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.960 row manager. What did you see in Chris? What did 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:16.680 you like? Ambition? The ambition, Like I said, he was cocky, arrogant, 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.440 but you also sort the other sideway, you know, he 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.960 had something that to standford or you know what it 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.680 is down the road. So that's why I appointed him 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:30.920 as roll manager. And this is road manager for this 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:35.040 is yes, Hunt and Jung Bubbish came about, you know, 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.120 and before you know, after a while he became at 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:44.720 the fourth member. Yeah, Jesus, there's so much history here man. Yes, 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:54.960 So okay, how does this develop into you? Because hip 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.599 hop this time especially I'm outside of looking at it him, 0:06:57.440 --> 0:06:59.960 I'm like I said, I'm forty four years old. How 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.200 do you go from like the hip hop like hip 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:06.880 hop being underground and then you get this chance to 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.960 be on the radio station. Well, first and foremost, I 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:13.640 got to give a live of respectors um may he 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.640 rest in peace, super rocking Mr Magic Wow. You know 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:18.960 he's the one that I always said that he's the 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:22.200 one that really opened the doors for us to be 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.520 doing the airwaves. So it's Mr Magic first. Mr Magic First. 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.080 He used to be on the independent station w HBI 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.440 point nine and late night from like two to four 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.920 in the morning. But you know he had grabbed so 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:39.560 much attention from the youth and the streets that he 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:43.760 is WBLS major radio station picked him up. So they 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:47.280 picked him up. No, that's ran nine eight point seven. 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.560 Kiss firm had interest because they want to do similar 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.480 to what BLS is doing. First person they ran after 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.680 was a member of the zoo nation called Africa Islam, 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:58.760 but he missed a couple of appointments. I think he 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:00.840 was overseas at the time. So the next person they 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:05.560 went after was my cousin, the original DJ J, and 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.640 he did it for a couple of months even though 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:11.160 there wasn't paying, but he gained so much exposure for 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.080 getting gigs and studio work, and then he let it 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:15.880 go cause he was on the go with the SOCNIC 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:19.240 for us to performing. So they came to him. They 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.640 came and said, who's the next person having lined? So 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:25.640 it came to me, and that was in October nineteen three. 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:34.679 I never looked back some boys for that. Goddamn how 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:36.600 old were you when you got that gig? How old? 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:40.360 Damn more or less? Huh more or less? Like? How 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:44.920 old you think got? Being my um, you asked that question. 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:54.280 So I I'm bouncing around a little bit ahead. How 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:58.480 do you after flex? Connect? Well? I gotta give it 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:00.520 a lot of credit for the person work from master 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.960 Flexing was Chuck Chillout. Okay, yes that's right. Chuck chill 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.480 Out and Flex grew up together, you know, and flex 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.199 used to always be up and even look like each 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:16.920 other a little bit. I went to all and so 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.920 here it is that when Chuck he went over to 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:25.960 BLS and flexes with him. But then some situation happened 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:30.880 and things despaired from over their BLS. I don't actually 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.840 know what happened, but despair that no longer Chuck is there. 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:37.120 You know, Flect was there right after Chuck, But Chuck, 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:42.160 I mean Flex, that kind of um sped off. I 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.360 had a backup DJ every time was on the road, 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.280 and Flex your backup DJ. No, no, no. The first 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.360 backup DJ for me was seeing me being the Jungle 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.360 Brothers because back at a D eight there was a 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.920 Dope Champ tour that I was on with on Boogie 0:09:55.960 --> 0:10:00.440 Down production and I needed somebody to know feeling for 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.240 me for the whole summer. So that was Sammy B. 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.959 But after I finished that, now Sammy is taken off 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.480 of the Jungle What was they doing their thing? So 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:11.480 now I still have to have time off and going 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:16.080 away to doing gigs or doing conventions or whatever it is. 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:19.000 So I need another backup DJ. So that's when I 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.160 had interests in Flex, and I asked him to come in. 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:25.920 He said, problem, So let me let me like I said, 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.320 let me be bouncing around a little bit. Right at 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.840 what point? Because at one point in hip hop, it 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:34.400 felt like the DJ was the star and like the 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:38.520 rapper or the MC was really the hype man. But 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.559 it was always like the DJ. At what point of 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.800 hip Hop did it? Did that change when the recording 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:48.360 field came in? Why? Because you remember in the beginning, 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:52.200 when you heard certain groups like Flash and the Furious Facts. 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:59.280 You know, um you heard of Rocket first, yeah, you know, 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:02.480 and there were certain times you heard the DJ name 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.920 first because he was the forefront. But the DJ is 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:09.120 not being on the record, so who they're paying attention 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.960 to the person who's on the record. So that's where 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.080 the navitive had changed that people start paying more attention 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.840 on the MC that we call at that time become 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:22.160 known as rappers, and that's where everybody started looking more 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.360 at the rappers. But the DJ was always in the 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:30.000 forefront because the MC master ceremonies was the hype man 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.960 or you know, the crowd participator. And know, in the 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:36.079 very beginning, hip hoply was just like simple little rhymes, 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:38.960 you know. But then here it is, it got to 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.679 the next step. And I give credit to people like Melly, 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:46.320 Mellow Cast, you know, couple others. You know, they're the 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:50.199 ones that started making more lyrical and that's why it 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:54.440 transcend to people start making records and everybody come out again. 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:58.040 You know the songs. Now that's this famous party right, 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.720 this one they say, this is the first hip hop 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:06.240 party that happened uptown. Were you there? No? Okay, cool? 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:07.760 I'm glad you ket kept it real because I don't 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.480 be knowing who was there, but Grandma's cast out here 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:12.920 and said he said he was a kid there as 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:14.760 a kid. He was there. He said he was there 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.400 as a kid. Okay, if if I remember Greig last 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.880 what we said? So because what was it like? Just 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:21.960 like fifty people there? Did you hear about this party? 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:27.080 Like the first party? I let on, you know, because 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:31.079 no understand, I didn't grow up. I went to school 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.760 in the Bronx, but I grew up in Hall them. Okay, 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.400 I went to school in the bron Clinton High School. 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.400 I'm in a tough time up there in Clinton High School. 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.720 And it was all boys quote unquote during the game, right, 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.559 so you know when things start quiet down and then 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.200 you know, they started having these different functions. I used 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.920 to always talk about her her, who was her? So 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.640 the fun us and no alarm me. You know, we 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:56.560 all went to check out her for the first time 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:00.880 and I caught the book at the same time, called 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.240 the brother from him. I was sneaking downtown to the 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:07.160 clubs we used under age, you had to be dress 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.959 a public, actually wear my older brother clothes. And I 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:15.160 was checking out the DJ's downtown and checking out her uptown. 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.880 So I learned the difference of the disco downtown because 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.319 because this is the downtown, they won't playing hip hop. No, No, 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:27.720 there was no such thing the dance student type crowd, 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.560 not totally, because you know, I was certain clubs I 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:32.880 was playing. I was not playing, but I was going 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:36.319 to was you know, a combination of R and B 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.920 and dance moment some disco. Okay, so you're talking about 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.880 student fifty four, that's a whole different range. Okay, when 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:47.640 you're talking about these clubs like No Greens, Uh, Superstar Cafeteria, 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.520 Hotel Diplomat, I mean the list is no. You know, 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.760 that was more for the urban crowd, the urban clouds 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:58.040 downtown that was going downtown uptown. Herd would play a 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:02.839 twist of it, but add some other different elements. You know, 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:07.000 a lot of red type of sounds that you know, 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.479 become known as classics to this day, like the Mexican 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:14.840 like it's just begun like Apache, you know, in feborous otherways, 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.320 you know, and you also had other DJs that was 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:20.320 right under him, the original DJ Clark Kent, not from 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:25.400 the book name, really original DJ Clark Kent, the original 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:33.960 DJ Clark. I didn't know this, do this of course, 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.040 get confused, but the original that was under her. And 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.000 there was another guy he passed away name knew it 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.640 Timmy Wow. So they were the one. And then you 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:45.840 know there was time that you know, Koklevok who was 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:49.920 considered the first MC. Yeah he was k was Kirk's MC. 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:53.920 Here it is. He would get on the turntables a 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.560 couple of times, you know, even a couple of times 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.720 her would get on the microphone, you know. So that's 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:03.760 really was everybody just showing their style, their own flair. 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.640 So I was learning the difference of downtown and uptown 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.080 and that study booth and then when the when the 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.920 Bam Bought a coming like in me between youth covering 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.800 the downtown is a difference uptown? Is this now? I 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:21.600 did not know about Ben Bought until a little later on. 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:27.640 And because right after Coolhood, the next wave DJs came in, 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:32.960 like Flash Rest in Peace a j Uh the the 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.640 El Brother was featuring grammars at Theodore as the youngest Um. 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:40.000 The listens Long Guy named smokey Um. There's so many 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.840 of them, and I was handing so much about Bam, 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:44.680 but Band was on the other side of the Bronx. 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.720 How I got to learn more about Band because my 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:51.400 cousin Jazz, along with the family, had moved from down 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:53.720 in the Hallam and moved up in the Bronx for 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:58.280 the Bronx the Bronx River. The first person that Um 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.360 Jazzy got down with was a number person rest in peace, 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:05.480 name disco King Mario. And when you got down with Mario, 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.840 Maam started handing about, Well, who was this young guy 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.880 that's over there? Mario? He said, the family is just 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.000 moving the plodect. He said, we're supposed to be doing 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:16.080 over there. He supposed to be with us. So he 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:19.600 went and got a hold Jazz. And that's how Jazz 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:23.680 spoke prior to Nation being formed. Yes, no, I mean 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:26.200 Jude Nation was already formed. But you know a lot 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.320 of time Jazz got up, you know, he got down 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:32.720 and then they brought me in. And how how is 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:36.200 is that? Like? Um, I never got to see the Zulu. 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.400 I never got to see the unity that I mean, 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.480 because you know, people say what's down, you know things 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.320 about the gangs at that time like that, you know, 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:47.520 the Black Space, but it was it was a formal thought. 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.040 It was a part of the Black spage. He was 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.560 down with I think Black Space or the Baby Space, 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:55.600 anything under that affiliation. You know, people people, and that 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.760 turned into Zula Nation. Well here it is. When the 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:03.040 gangs died down, he had from a group called the Organization. 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:08.960 I still wasn't around yet. Okay, no, hearsay and I 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.040 heard that, asked about maybe six eight months. And then 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.879 he formed the Zoo Nation. And he started with the 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:18.840 Bronze River, and then he started to gather formulating little 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:24.960 by little spread than that. Man, I'm getting schooled, brother, 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:28.120 I'm getting schooled. Brother, I'm getting schooled. So bouncing around, 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:32.399 bouncing around like how we always do, wouldn't it focus? 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.360 But when I text Fat Joe the first thing he said, 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:35.960 I say that, I say you got he got a 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:39.040 question for Betther Alert. He said, yeah, he discovered Fat Joe. 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.239 Is this true? I mean he probably discovered a lot 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.600 of people. Not probably. We know. I'm gonna tell you 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:49.159 how this came about. Okay, cool. So I got to 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.400 hear Joe for the first time at the Pottle Okay, 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.679 he was right. Yeah, he went at the pom and 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:57.480 I don't even know how many times you've been there, 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.760 but I showed him that one time. It was amateur night. 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:04.440 So afterwards I had interests because I'm wanting to get 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:06.600 like a promo from him, because I was known for 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:10.520 playing promos, you know, like the plates type promo. When 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.399 promos it's like it's recorded and they passed it to 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:16.960 me as on tape you know, and get to play. 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:18.879 You know. I had some of them passed me on 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.480 cassette and I transferred to the you know through real 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:25.840 and play such as like people's demos. Basically it's not demos. 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.560 We consider promo because not only that it's demo, but 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.400 it's promos for not for my show, for the radio. 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:36.560 But they're announcing the um magate points that m amounting me, 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.920 and they're doing their little freestyle in it. People such 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:42.200 as like d Knights or t R eight Oorators coming, 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.080 you know, just as an example. So um I asked 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:48.399 Joe to similarm to me, so he did it. I 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:51.399 took my time and hold onto it until I finally 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.680 played it. And one thing I had about promos, there's 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:56.760 some promos I had that I usually played them regularly 0:18:56.800 --> 0:19:00.440 like they was in rotation, like records and where it 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.520 got around. Well, well give me you the props for alert. 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.480 I've seen you trying to be humble about it. We're 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:11.600 gonna be trying to listen. Listen, the man said, listen. 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:17.880 I it's so it's so crazy because what y'all did, 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:20.600 what you was a part of what is happening now. 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:24.360 It's it's so important to tell the history. It's so 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:26.600 like when I'm texting people from everyone, it's like your 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:29.440 red has so much history. So this is the the reason 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:32.960 why I'm like bouncing around. But it's so important that 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:37.640 this history doesn't be for guy, you understand what I'm saying, because, um, 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:39.639 the one thing I learned about this new generation that 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:42.720 I pay attention to is what they would say. They 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.080 would be like like they'll they'll they'll quote a line 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.960 and they wraps like yo, like Jordan's dropped eighty six 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:51.320 and and the Jordan dropped fifty five and eighty six. 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:54.840 You're like, you mean, y'all went and did the research 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:57.040 for Michael Jordan's but you get the money through hip 0:19:57.040 --> 0:20:00.399 hop and you don't know what's happening in the pop. 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:02.560 You know, why them Jordan's that you got on this 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:05.000 other section. But you don't know when you hear juicy beet, 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:07.040 where does it come from? You don't know when you 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:08.719 hear grand Master, like you don't know when you hear 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:10.800 these certain things. You know. I think that go according 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:14.840 to the perception. Jordan's example, The perception is you hear 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.040 so much about Jordan, you're gonna look up about Jordan's 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:19.240 because you're not going to take time to study about 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:22.480 the um what you're getting into, you know. I'm just like, 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:25.760 if you can study upon anything in music, you can 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.920 study anything into sports and too industrial, into politics and 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:31.080 who the people who that was there before you and 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:32.680 set it up for you to be where you at. 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:34.480 For a lot of people don't do that. This is 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.040 go by perception. So right, you know, rest in peace 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:40.480 Kobe right now? Everybody using Kobe name, you know, anybody 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:45.119 use a famous popular name, whatever whatever they had done 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.480 and put it in their vines, but they're not gonna 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:49.399 do them. Who can dig deep to see where it 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:53.520 really ovirginally come from? I mean, why not though? Because 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:56.360 the interest is not there. At some point we stopped 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:59.320 passing that knowledge down to keep that interest there. That's 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:01.159 what I think. Drink you start to help with it. 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.639 At some point, even even if you was a street rifle, 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:07.000 you wanted to be smart or something. You wanted to 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:08.919 know something like you know what I mean, Like you 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.160 didn't want to somebody to walk into the room when 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:13.560 you not know that this person is this person? You 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:15.760 know what I'm saying. So like when when did rap 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:19.880 become dumb? Like like I mean, like what and I'm 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:25.480 not I feel that the online internet, social media will 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:30.119 control the mind. So today because now you're not thinking 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:32.800 for yourself. You're thinking according to the perception and what 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:36.479 you're seeing, what you're here or their online do social 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:38.479 media and everything, so you're not willing to go and 0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:41.920 dig a little deeper. You know, people from the time 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:44.640 you was out with me, they used to always talk 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:49.920 about their favorite rapper from before and go digs it 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:52.720 today And so like a halt according to what I 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:56.639 just said. And it's because like like you had I 0:21:56.640 --> 0:22:00.480 think I think we had something called paying dudes that 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:02.879 that never stopped. I mean right now they'd up the 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:07.680 hand dudes, and they're not making the record class and 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:16.080 they couldn't class, Like, how do you like? Yeah, you 0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:20.119 gotta go to school. Sometimes school they go by to school. 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:23.000 Wow wow, Wow, that that was deep. That was deep. Okay, 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:35.640 Caress one comes out with this record. Now from my understanding, 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:42.040 the South of Bronx came first. No, no, no, it 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:48.159 wasn't Crane, It wasn't the bridge. Bridge first. It was 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:52.760 the bridge. Okay, I need you to describe because you 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:54.960 know I'm it hurt me. It hurt me like a 0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:56.439 grown man. But I was a kid. Back to what 0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:59.639 Harris was struck first, Yes, I always do it, come on, 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:04.600 always thought it at the South Bross. Then you know, 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:06.800 maybe I got my memory. I smoke out of marijuana. 0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:09.119 Don't know if people have knew that. Okay, I smelled 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:16.160 so okay, So the bridge comes um mc sharing at 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:18.840 Molly Mark at the time. Are you are Molly Mark? Friends? 0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:22.879 Are y'all like ours? We was arch rivals on the 0:23:22.920 --> 0:23:25.760 airwaves and I did not really know much about Molly. 0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:28.040 He didn't not know much about We always had hair 0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:31.000 say and people would read that in between that have 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:34.680 a coslla agitating different things, you know, just run and 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:38.320 the only person that I've come out very vocal is 0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:41.159 always magic because he used to always talking nonsense about me. 0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:44.679 Under maybe Magic was about mar Yeah, I mean you 0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:49.720 gonta understand bls. Magic was first and then here I 0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:52.760 come on. And then first I was going after my cousin. 0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:55.640 So when they he said, yo, who this guy down 0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:59.879 to down here? And Jazzi? Who Jaggi rack Jazzie jerking there? 0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:12.040 So y'all started this game radio. So when I came on, 0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:16.680 who this guy here? This new guy, this red guy 0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:22.280 red what red dirt? He called me red dirt? He said, 0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:29.160 just Woody with Peca, you know, and I've never given um. 0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:31.920 I came to the program at the time and I said, 0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:35.240 you know, man, Magic is dissing me. He started laughing 0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:37.680 at me. I'm getting mad now because you know I'm not. 0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:40.160 And you're on the same program. You're on the same station. 0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:43.320 This is a different state, different okay, So I go 0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:46.480 back at him. Wouldn't let you dis some back? No? No, see, 0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:50.440 I wasn't vocal yet because him adance. When I used 0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:53.199 to do, I used to be prerecorded. I should be 0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:55.440 on from eleven to two in the morning, so it's 0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:59.640 just prerecorded, okay. So I wasn't vocal yet it wasn't live. 0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:02.000 But I was getting mad because he'd been thising me. 0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.639 So here with this, I'm telling my program back to 0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:06.600 you're like laughing. I'm like, why do you laughing? You say, 0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:09.199 let me tell you something. You guys got right to 0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:13.679 be mad. But same time he doesn't you. He's advertising you. 0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:17.280 So now here with everybody gonna wonder who is this 0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:20.360 person he keeps talking about, and they're going to turn 0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:24.760 the down. So I learned to swallow every time somebody 0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:26.679 coming to me in the street, Yo man, magic this, 0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:30.560 and yo man, he said, I'm heeding inside. But I 0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:34.359 got ahold man. And then you know that changing. And 0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.040 then here I had a partner coming seven months after me. 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:40.000 After I'm on kicks up here come Chuck, chill out. 0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:42.879 So now I brought me and Chuck back and forth. 0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:47.680 You know, after magic me, I still know very little 0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:51.160 about Molly, not much about Molly at Molly's Magic. Many 0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:55.000 friends at least on the same station too, right, okay, 0:25:55.440 --> 0:26:01.959 bls now, before the Bridge War, it was the roxand Roxan. 0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:04.720 I'm sorry, just called it the Bridge Wolf. Yeah, let's 0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:10.919 make some moisture that I like that. Okay, let's go 0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:15.240 um here. It is um during the Rock and roxan. 0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:20.600 I know that I'm credit breaking u TFO Rock and 0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:24.320 roxand even though they tried to credit it so name 0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:28.320 right after and got a female to go after you TF. 0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:35.400 I'm hanging out Russell Simmons office like the floors rush 0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.600 producheon and at the time, who comes stepping through with 0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:43.400 Spider D. You heard the Spider D. Spider D. Yeah, 0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:45.479 you gotta do your homework. Do my homework too, got 0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:47.760 them out. Spider D came in. He was one of 0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:50.360 the artists for Russell. Okay. He came with a young 0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:53.560 lady and he said, you need to hear this, so 0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.399 he popped the tape in and listened to It is 0:26:56.440 --> 0:27:02.000 the lady going after Sean Tay. Wait all right, okay, continue, 0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:07.800 continue after the ladies going out to Shante. I laid 0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:11.400 everybody the name of Sparky D. Okay, okay, Sparky D. 0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:15.040 It's called Sparky's train. So we we gotta get this going. 0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.760 We gotta make this happening, and going looking for labors, 0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:20.960 everything but over the label was set up. Sparky turn 0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:23.240 the mind said, but I don't have a DJ. She 0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:25.200 turned around and looking at me she said, you're gonna 0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:28.159 be my DJ. I said, okay, I was at the 0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:31.400 white pictures of simple like that, simple like so now 0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:34.560 here it is. I'm on the road with her. And 0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:38.720 who was on the road with Shante was and she 0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:42.440 sharing he used the DJ for Shawn heard that. So 0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:48.440 we was always rivals, but we always stuck together no 0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.159 matter what, because I look at it this way. We 0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:54.640 may be rivals on the radio, but were out of time. 0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.480 We're from New York and anything go down, forget all 0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:02.000 that nuns together? Yes, yes, got it's what and now 0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:04.200 only that I remember one time, a couple of times 0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:08.320 flying time who was their manager? Where's my moment? So 0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.200 that's how close we was. So after the Rocks and 0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:15.400 Roxan died down, here come the bridge. Now she had 0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:19.760 made the bridge during this time from when I learned 0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:25.000 that um Scottland rock West in Priest and Chris was 0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:32.959 coming upproaching Magic about something and he just like So 0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:35.639 they got mad because they had it. There was on 0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.200 the labels sneaping bad records, but the label dropped them, 0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:42.280 so they run their head and got with another label, 0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:46.560 Rock Candy Records informed themselves as Boogie Down Production and 0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:49.960 made this song, which I think was less than a 0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:54.840 hundred dollars called South Bronx. South Bronx was the answer 0:28:54.880 --> 0:29:01.320 to the bridge. So now here it is, I'm in 0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.720 Latin Quarters. I'm hanging out in that quarters on Celebrity Tuesdays. 0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:07.520 Not the original Latin Quarters. I the one the ninety 0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.560 street right, No, the original that's down on forty seven. Yeah, 0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:14.680 you saw a part of it arms sub destruction with 0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:18.160 film in front of that. Um great flaws. Love it. 0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.720 Here it is Celebrity Tuesdays orsome too, and they had 0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.640 a guy named Dja. He played so here comes Scott 0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:27.520 and Chris. They coming in and they have you know 0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:31.480 what the ASCID tape is, right, that's like a hard 0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:36.040 plate before become vinyl. Yeah, like the stamper before the stamper, 0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.840 after the stamper. Isn't that the metal part? It's really 0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:41.400 hard and you only get a couple of plays until 0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.680 where is out? That's what dump plates are made on 0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:51.440 the right. I don't know none of that, but yeah, yeah, 0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:56.840 Chinese to be right now, should they pass the ASCID 0:29:56.920 --> 0:30:01.640 tape over to the we put it on. People responded 0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:03.760 so crazy before they went to the end, he said, yo, 0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:05.720 go to pay this from the beginning again it was 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:09.040 the South South Bronzy, body going crazy over it. So 0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:12.360 after that, here it is. That's when they gave it 0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.440 to me. This is for you to play on the radio. 0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:19.880 So now here it is, mind you, I'm still battling 0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:23.360 back and forth with them, right. Another thing is I'm 0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:28.000 playing a lot of records that Shan is on and 0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:32.080 whatever other songs that money was producing. Because I always 0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.880 learned one thing. You may be my rival, but you 0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:37.960 give me ammunition for me to play against you. So 0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:41.280 I'm playing them hits. So when I set it up 0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:44.840 for that first time, I'm playing to the Bridge right 0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:47.200 when they playing the Bridge first, and then the South Bronx. 0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:49.600 So when it came to the courts front saying to 0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:53.480 the Bridge, I know South bron South South Bronce that 0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:58.120 woke up in that woke up makes a noise for 0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:08.400 you starting to beat. So then after that hip hop man. 0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:10.800 So that after that, that's when sham in her head 0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:16.360 and he made this record going to and that's when 0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:21.719 the next one came out by the bridges over let 0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:28.280 me wat should I say? What do you know? We 0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:30.000 can need need sharing on this show to be fair 0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:35.120 on this show. So I swear to god I was 0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:38.640 too young to notice was kill that noise considered a hit. 0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:42.640 I'm I'm being honest, and I'm being honest too, because 0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:44.880 I'm not saying being bied because of who I'm down. 0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:48.840 But it wasn't hitting like that. It wasn't It wasn't bridge. 0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:53.120 The bridge was hidden. Okay, the bridge was hidden. Then 0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:57.200 South France hitting killed That noise didn't hit the bridges 0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:04.720 over it was hitting the bridge was overkilled to bring that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.600 I would say that. So I understand how you feeling 0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.200 because where were you from? From Queen's Yes, from Queens. 0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:12.360 But that's what I need to know. I need to 0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:17.320 know what I need a little. I mean, yeah, I 0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:22.240 probably Queens. Yeah, I'm not moving on because I really, 0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:26.440 I really like as a child, I remember it, but 0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:29.240 I don't remember it to the to the extent. What 0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:32.800 what what? What? Years? These records came out eight seven, 0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:36.240 This is my eighties seven, eighties six, and I'm born 0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:39.160 in seventy seven, so I'm literally ten years old. I 0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:42.040 know I'm following, but I'm not knowing. I'm following. What 0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:46.880 I did remember was it made those that record made 0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:51.360 the tough people from Queens be tough because yeah, because 0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.640 if you ran around he was like, I didn't hear 0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:56.480 pete from a place called Queens. That's fighting words, Like 0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.080 you're not trying to be cool with me by saying that, 0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:01.040 Like you know what I mean. So they made a 0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:03.840 lot of people tough from that ship. So there was 0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:05.920 a lot of artists from Queen's and I was banging 0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:07.480 their song. But let me ask you, let me ask 0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:10.440 you something. And this is this is also real talk, 0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:13.040 right because we had care rest one on here, right, 0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:15.680 he was going on the ship. We haven't been able 0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.760 to get SCE. We love you Shan. Please stop thinking 0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:20.760 it's crazy about us, but we haven't had it had 0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.800 Shan on here. But every time I see Shan, all 0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.320 care of us actually speak about it. Although it's not 0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:29.200 fighting words. It's like I don't think they could ever 0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:33.320 be friends. I feel that they've shared the stage since 0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:37.680 the man you can share the stage versus they trying 0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:39.360 to kill each other. I think that in versus this, 0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:42.000 she was not a celebration no more actually feeling it's 0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:44.040 a love hate relationship between the booth. For that, That's 0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.080 what I'm trying to say like that, because now ain't 0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:51.400 that think about it years later? Commercials and ship. Yeah, 0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:54.840 so here it is, you get together and make commercial 0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:58.120 to make a couple of a couple of dollars. That's business. 0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:00.360 One thing ain't got nothing to do with together. But 0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.640 you know why I say that's a little different with 0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:09.720 them because neither one of them think either one lost. 0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:15.160 They both they won to eat your own Yeah, I 0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:20.000 even had their own opinion. Yeah, you know, they have 0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.800 their opinion and the audience have their picks. That's I 0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:27.239 guess that's what matters. Are you a fan of versus versus? Yeah? 0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:31.320 I like versus? Which one he was a fair of versus? 0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:33.920 It's hard to say because I did not fully look 0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:36.399 at each of every one of them the whole full thing. 0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:43.239 But so you know, I'm always school school hard. I 0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:48.960 love that versus when I saw it aslet fire very 0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:54.080 very now, I did not see the whole full thing 0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:58.680 of job and fat Joe and got your back. Huh 0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:11.680 we got your back? Yeah, we got me? Where were 0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:17.320 you from? You know? That's both both of my brothers also, 0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:24.320 and that I felt bad about that. Look joh and 0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:27.040 Joe was really they're really brothers, like you know, I'm 0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:30.040 just playing like you know, although mass majority of saying 0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:34.480 you know, John run that, but dip set and and 0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:38.719 the lots. It almost felt like although I've never been 0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:41.200 to the original Latin Quarters, which how y'all described the 0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:44.480 Latin Quarters, how I've been to the ton of it 0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:46.560 felt it felt. It didn't felt like we was in 0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:49.520 two thousand and twenty one at all. It felt nineties ish, 0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:52.600 like they had all the dudes on stage and everyone 0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:55.080 knew to respect each other, like stay on each other side, 0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:57.560 even though they went a little too far certain instances. 0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:00.239 But everyone was thinking about the bag and it really 0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:03.000 really felt like hip hop, Like it felt like when 0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.640 I've seen who was who was it Melly Melon and 0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:09.719 them against each other on stage and it wasn't Grandmaster 0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:18.000 Cast his crew against uh comin Yeah. Yeah. It reminded 0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:21.040 me of that. I'm looking and I'm like, and I 0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:25.040 remember Grandmaster Cast saying yo. He's still saying yo. He 0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:27.240 thought he won. But the crowd, he said, the crowd 0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:29.680 was with them more because you know, they were they 0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:33.120 were pretty are they help? Yeah more, I don't take 0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:35.160 the clothes or some ship and for me to see 0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:38.600 that and then the dip Set, the Locks. It reminded 0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:41.400 me of real pure hip hop, even down to the 0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:45.240 point of praying out the fact that they was rhyming 0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.400 over certain records, rhyming over the vocals and just pointing 0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:51.680 that out, like yo, bro, that's cheering, Like you ain't 0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:53.719 supposed to be rhyming on that. Even like point that 0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:57.759 that reminded me of real I remember, I could not 0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:00.600 perform with my vocals on like I would have did 0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:02.759 that the crowd would have told me immediately, know what 0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:07.239 was that? Like, you know, reached back to the dip set. 0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:11.200 They from my town hall. I love each of every 0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:17.600 one of them. And you gotta understand that the Locks, 0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.759 them guys are battling them seas, yea, every one of them. 0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:26.720 You know here it is dip set. They got no stout, swag, 0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:33.800 everything built around, but the tactics is different. That's the 0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:37.840 best way I could put it right. And um, I 0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:41.040 think I think I think the Brotherhood played a part 0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:44.319 of it too, Like I think from what I heard, 0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.920 uh Tips that had three different DJs yeah and the 0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.279 one Yeah. The individual seas had their own DJ yeah 0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:53.960 like that and they had one. So it just I 0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.320 know I always say this word wrong, but it just 0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:58.400 reminded me of having that good comment. What was it 0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:01.040 called camaraderie colmorad. Yeah, like you know what I'm saying, 0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:03.480 like when you're all on the same level like um. 0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:05.600 But like I said, I just love the fact that 0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:08.440 they kept it hip hop, you know, um yeah, definitely 0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:12.600 it was good for New York. Right, So let let 0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:15.520 me bounce around. So how do you and Molly like 0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:19.000 squads to be after later on their life? Well, you 0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:21.480 know the funny Parker called Marty and I started working 0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:27.040 together at seven okay cool? And here it is from 0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.920 Hot nineties seven for for men. I was over at 0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:31.920 power room or five. I know, I've been at all 0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:37.560 four stations urban stations that you know, nay n N 0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:47.359 seven kiss, Hot ninety seven, power chore like goddamn check. 0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.719 That's a hustler's hustler right there. As Marty and I 0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:53.920 got closer over at power Room five, Momy used to 0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:56.640 already say, you remind me of this guy. You remind 0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:59.120 me this guy every time you were saying, because I've 0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:03.279 come out with during the abbreviations the acorns, you know, 0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:06.560 like you know your job motherfucker or pay your making, 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:10.680 manage what the funk out of here? So I got 0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:14.719 that from somebody my family. So he said, you know, 0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:18.279 entertained you to the abbreviation money or something. And then 0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:20.680 when he mentioned about that he was in a six 0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:27.480 huntry school, I say, brother, cut you? He said your brother. 0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:30.120 I told him my brother's name. He said, that's your brother. 0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:35.440 I said yeah, because if he never mentioned six hundred school, 0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.640 I would never know where you get that phone. So 0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:40.919 we make a noise for six hundred schools right now? Huh? 0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:42.840 Are we gonna make some noise for the six hundred schools? 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.960 All right there? I don't know, I don't know New York. 0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.680 This is the school to prepare you for jail because 0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:52.360 they don't have no girls in there. You you go 0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:57.560 with there's no girls, This baby jails. JA like, as 0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:00.359 we're speaking on that real quickly, what's the the trade 0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:04.360 six terms of school? And the school may have the 0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:09.600 people that's in the show up us. Oh damn. I've 0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:12.320 been in both, so I could probably because you know 0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:17.480 this bad then this is was in the resource room 0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:21.520 and special a. You know what that is? Resource? You 0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:25.319 know resource room? Resources? When UNIQ spec without they got 0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:28.200 a holler at the Hall of y'alla, you know, but 0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:31.560 most of us say, we aren't here for behavior. Nobody said, yo, man, 0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:33.360 I'm sucking out, you know. I mean, but I was 0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:36.480 on both wall right now in the school system. Let's 0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:40.520 make some noise for the school system. So you're molly, 0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:42.640 I talked about six hunt in school, and that's why 0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:45.000 I got to see the connection where he saw I 0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:48.360 was getting them says from from my clause, my blubber. 0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:51.000 You surprised do that teaching and he was in the 0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:57.880 um um No, he was just in the um is 0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:02.359 if you're a gym teacher, you know help um physical. Yeah, 0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:04.920 so you know that's what you got through. So did 0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:07.239 you all? Because because you know, you know, I imagine 0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:11.480 like like once in the Blue Jay ands to be 0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:13.800 like you remember remember when we went through Like I 0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:16.600 imagine like just you know, like did you and BALI 0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:19.680 ever just like you see the ship that we've been through, 0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:23.920 like ever talked about it. I never really really And 0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:27.080 we've been racking together for a wild because married fact, 0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:30.000 you know, before this pandemic, we was doing this thing 0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:34.960 for about good. Maybe we asked the brother right here, 0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.840 how many how many years were doing the old school 0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:46.719 reunions years? I many, Molly and Lance about nine of 0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:50.319 the twelve years. It was me rest in Peace, DJ 0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:55.000 Lance and Molly muh And when me and Marty was 0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:57.600 wrecking together during that time as well being on the radio, 0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:00.640 we didn't think about all that nonsense. We're working. Really. 0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:03.120 I imagine like one time, like you would have had 0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:11.200 a bill, but you should drink juice. Drink it's a name, 0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:16.000 it's a nickname that was given. First I used to 0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:24.560 drink Viccardi and coke. Yeah, yeah, that's back then. They're 0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:28.560 invest in piece of my mother. She said, you're drinking 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.560 that cheap stuff. I say, what you're talking to my mom? 0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:34.160 You're gonna drink drink the best top shelf. Go and 0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:38.680 get Maya's room. So I started to Maya's room. First 0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:42.040 I tried but coke, like yeah. Then I tried with 0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:46.840 cranberry juice. I like, take all right. Then when the 0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:51.000 violators sneaky d say you're a tried it pineapple. So 0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:56.319 then trying pineapple juice. Here it is first that came over, 0:42:56.440 --> 0:43:01.080 the nickname Poopoo was big voted the volators. Okay, it's poopoo, 0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:04.320 not poom poom. Guy said poom poom man, which is 0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:09.160 totally different. Poompum is totally different. Man just described it. 0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:13.640 I we used to say the poopoo juice. Okay, so 0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:15.920 that's where we had. Of course, I stopped drinking for 0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:19.839 about a year and a half. Now, okay, let's I'm 0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:23.239 drink four. You don't don't worry about it. J Yeah, 0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:26.520 Like you call it the nasty? What I used to drink? No, 0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:29.759 you you know that wasn't Wait a minute, I used 0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:33.239 to drink its nasty anything, but club was the nasty. No, 0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:36.440 what club soda is with the nasty? You got the 0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:40.280 club soda from? No, your ship was a club soda 0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:48.600 memory that I got to look even funny, I know 0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:51.080 how I got the nasty from It was me, you 0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:52.880 used to say. When I didn't get that from you, 0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:56.040 I got come up with you came up Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:57.680 I know exactly what I came up with that at 0:43:57.840 --> 0:44:00.600 that's what I was drinking it because he said that 0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:03.160 he lost weight, and I was like for real, and 0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.120 he's like, yeah, just drinking, but sell a water And 0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:08.520 I was like, well, I think you should put pineapple 0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:10.719 back in that motherfucker, because that's this is horrible and 0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:12.840 that's what I called it, the nasty all right, Wember, Well, 0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:15.840 maybe be talking about drinking, all right, cool, but we 0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:18.440 one of your son is gonna come in to take 0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:23.680 a shot. One of yall drink or y'all to drink. Okay, alright, 0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:26.879 I don't have both of them coming with a little cool. 0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:29.520 We're gonna do quick time with slime. Come on, yeah, 0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.520 do we have greip time and slim? Okay? Cool? Alright, cool? 0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:36.040 And we got a drink too in this game. Yeah, 0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:40.480 we drink too. The fact that us making a drinking 0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:44.440 and not I don't have the glass, but I got them. Okay, 0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:48.920 this is for y'all. Okay, Oh yeah, yeah, what's that 0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:51.200 red alert? What is that? Oh my god? Go ahead 0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:53.680 for you. Okay, let me open it up for you. 0:44:54.160 --> 0:45:01.320 Thank you very much. Okay, that's big. All. Good to 0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:06.239 meet you. I got definitely we got the shorts food 0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:11.279 that I have on Okay, got master retroll? Ye, yes, 0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:14.239 doing that day, Thank you very much. Should I want 0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:15.839 you to told me before I put it over? We're 0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:19.120 giving gifts? Oh yeah, we're giving gifts. We give a gift, 0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:26.840 come on, Yes, that boblem Oh my man, thank you. 0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:30.440 Oh hell yeah. So that guy said this is the 0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:34.040 oldest rob. Who's the one day you said here on 0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:45.239 the radio? Okay before we start the game, Yes and everyone, Yeah, 0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:50.160 that's he's artist. Oh that's what's up both for y'all, 0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:58.799 sottell So alight, yeah, let's do this. Yep, the third 0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:07.840 guest to get roses from it up. Yeah, you're literally 0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:11.319 giving people their roses when they get here. So these 0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:16.839 roses last a few years. Strange, good, open it up. 0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:39.360 You literally had to give your roses. Yeah, that's the 0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:42.040 you know, Yeah, I got you, I got some ship. 0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:44.680 I don't want to break my ship because I'm gonna type. Right, 0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:47.120 So we got the shots out. What you want to do? 0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:51.600 You want to drink? You're into? All right? Cool, it's 0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:54.279 gonna be a couple, right, Cool. This is this is 0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:57.000 it's called quick Time with Slim is a game. So 0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:59.040 you gotta take the shots for your pots. So it's cool. 0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:02.000 So um, all right, so just how it goes. We're 0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:04.600 gonna give you our two choices. You can pick one 0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:07.640 or the other or whatever he picked, whatever he picked. 0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:12.520 So if he picked, if he picked both, you both 0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:15.600 gotta take a shot. If he picked one, then't either 0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:17.440 one of you gotta take a shot. All right. We're 0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:19.200 drinking with him and we're drinking with him, so we 0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:22.080 try yeah. Cool. Yeah, so if you're politically correct, you 0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:26.520 pick both. We're drinking about cool. Yeah, we got you, 0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:28.799 we got you, we got you. Drink. Yeah, you ain't 0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:31.840 gotta drink all right, So but this is for you. 0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:34.080 We're gonna ask you the question. I mean, however you 0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:42.960 ask it. Then Dictator drinking habits right, yeah, yeah, Okay, 0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:45.960 you're gonna stop being you never get the first one? 0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:52.600 Jay z or nas you can pick both now, right, 0:47:52.640 --> 0:48:06.440 don't worry about it. Okay, shot monster you can't come 0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:09.359 on back? Yeah you don't. Don't leave the witness, don't 0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:15.040 lead do it? That got cash sign stomach? Yeah all right, 0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:21.120 that's what I don't know. Neither Biggie or Big Punt Biggie. Okay, 0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:31.000 Mr Magic or Molly Marr Magic. Okay, Funk Flex or 0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:35.080 Kick Apri kick Capri. I'm gonna tell you right, I 0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:39.239 need to know. While from Flex is my man, I 0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:44.239 love him to death, but Kick Capri is so chasmatic 0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:48.080 and so you know, skillful day he brings it to 0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:59.680 the table b DP or the juice crip b DP. Okay, Dad, 0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:22.359 alright DMX or tupap drink up? Who DMX the dog 0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:44.200 your Dogs Dog Hot ninety seven or Power one oh 0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:48.120 five Hot seven. I love how you that's very confident. 0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:49.840 He didn't even think about that. He's gorun straight with 0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:51.160 I'm gonna take a shot for that. I don't even 0:49:51.160 --> 0:49:54.200 know why. No, I know I was at Power for 0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:57.239 five years, and I know that Power woke up Hot 0:49:57.400 --> 0:50:01.080 ninety seven because at one point they said they was 0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:03.360 only game in town. Yeah he's too last. They had 0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:06.759 no competition. But then here it is came over. You know, 0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:13.640 hm as you see where it is at now, MTV 0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:18.520 raps or rap City. Oh, I gotta say MTV Raps 0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:23.440 because it was the door opener and it's set the 0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:30.200 pace for many other people. You know, no disrespect. I 0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:32.200 wish you would have put video music back instead of 0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:39.080 rapp City. We converould say video music box. And at 0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:42.279 the guys who write the questions like yeah, that's right, 0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:47.480 got a documentary commend Yeah, hell you pig you up. 0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:50.640 Ralph mcdanie something you need him on? Drink Champion juice 0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:54.839 so Boys in the Hood. Damn. I mean he's in one. 0:50:54.920 --> 0:50:59.040 So that's the way you in Juice. You got no choice. 0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:06.560 But I don't know about God. He's the party bar 0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:10.560 the party by Boys in the Hood. I'm taking the shot. 0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:18.319 You pick the wrong one. You're going Boys in the Hood. 0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:21.600 I'm gonna tell you why. Okay, I need to know 0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:26.080 why Boys in the Hood. You think about something that 0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:30.240 show the side the other side of the United States 0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:33.080 that a lot of people don't know what relate to 0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:35.680 day by day. Now, we saw a piece of it 0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:40.280 from Colors, but they took it to another standard after Juice. 0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:44.360 It's what we already know. So that's why I'm picking 0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:46.680 Boys in the Hood because it puts something different to 0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:50.440 the table. He's John saying, that's the piece John Sick 0:51:53.920 --> 0:52:04.680 or digital days, Oh my god, he's a hard podcasts 0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:13.160 or radio radio Carovessel. Are you serious? This is my engine? 0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:16.640 And produce the questions? Man, they get corner I got 0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:20.160 and not because I've worked with him, but we already 0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:25.320 know look at the catalog. Okay, one, okay, okay, and 0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:28.480 fat just me another question too. By the way, um 0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:34.800 Queen Teeth for MC light, who you know I was like, 0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:40.920 you brought that up because people forget that. How skill 0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:45.680 food crean tell one of the illests. You know, I 0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:48.880 understand she took it too many heights and I respect 0:52:48.960 --> 0:52:52.920 her now she trail Blaze, but that my game was 0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:57.080 so mean and I still don't know the answer that. 0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:59.040 I feel like we could drink to that. Yeah, we 0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:00.880 drink to that. Don't worry. You gotta bust your brain. 0:53:02.880 --> 0:53:05.960 And nine is a beast because I know there's guys 0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:09.799 who don't even want to go against like, wow, wow, 0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:12.960 you got drinks. Yeah, I'm ready for that. I'm ready 0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:19.160 to solo solo solo. Listen and our show we celebrate 0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:21.680 our legends, and you're one. We want to sell a 0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:27.799 break too, solo. Motherfucker spect man, spect. We ain't done 0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:31.520 yet right now, this one. I definitely don't know what 0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:36.120 you're gonna say. Yeah, I kind of do know. I'm 0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:38.919 not sure though it's been you've been even fooling me lately. 0:53:39.719 --> 0:53:44.359 Eighties or nineties hip hop eighties. Okay, I'm gonna tell 0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:47.040 you why. I need to know why, because you got 0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:52.200 me to be where i'm at. Got that not even 0:53:53.560 --> 0:53:59.040 it's a blessing, Okay, l L or Komo d L 0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:05.480 L the longest lasting hip hop recording artists and modis 0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:08.520 my man, you are from harm and I respect MODI, 0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:12.120 but L L showed his diversity. What did you call that? 0:54:14.200 --> 0:54:18.759 The longest lasting hip hop recording artists? You know, think 0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:23.800 about it. Grandmother and granddaughter can go to an L council. 0:54:24.800 --> 0:54:28.399 Grandmother can sing I need love, granddaughter singing hespron Look 0:54:28.440 --> 0:54:34.160 at this fan of how many years? That's the analogy, 0:54:35.760 --> 0:54:38.120 that's true. I didn't know what came out with eighty 0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:47.520 five hespernd came out two thousand five. Yet year Now 0:54:48.719 --> 0:54:53.640 if him, it is if the mother's daughter had a 0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:58.279 child and that was about maybe become like you know, 0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:04.040 going on ten years become twenty years old. The grandmother 0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:07.840 at the time from them thirty years, she was the 0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:11.799 one that was rocking. They both can go to an 0:55:11.920 --> 0:55:17.200 L L consent. That's yeah, that's the ill point, Max Pose. 0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:23.080 I love the balls, alright, this one, this one, I 0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:25.279 don't know. No, I think, I think, I don't know 0:55:25.320 --> 0:55:28.839 you're gonna go with this one heavy dal Or your 0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:33.440 rock man, Damn why are you doing? And I love 0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:39.879 both and they both are so creative. Damn you ain't 0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:42.279 got the forces you know we are. We don't mind 0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:53.080 taking a shot. He damn right. I love when people 0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:59.880 can stay. You can pass the bottle. Rest of you 0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:07.560 start start problems. Question we stop to both of them. Yeah, respect, 0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:12.680 you know they both went that. I respect about both 0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:17.319 of them. Lyrically, they know how to go high or low. 0:56:18.760 --> 0:56:23.880 They can take it a hide hide up tempo and 0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:27.600 a dance matter, and they can bring low as a flow. 0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:30.520 Not too many mcs can do that. Too many can 0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:33.600 do that, and them too, They make it happen. Solute, 0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:47.520 motherfucker Reid. Respect all loyalty. Huh, Respect all loyalty. No, 0:56:47.840 --> 0:56:50.400 you just got me thinking about what my son already 0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:53.719 say now and then I gotta say respect, respect all 0:56:53.719 --> 0:56:57.000 a long way. No, you may get caught out there. 0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:03.719 That was deep. We'll see it. Get you're killing, kill 0:57:03.840 --> 0:57:09.440 what you're getting moment it's five as well. It's fire scarface, 0:57:09.600 --> 0:57:15.080 ice cube the quem okay public enemy or n W 0:57:15.280 --> 0:57:22.080 a public enemy dog open this Kanye Wessel for for 0:57:22.280 --> 0:57:35.640 well primo or large pro primo large pro goddamn. And 0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:41.480 they both beasts. They're both in beast. No, and they 0:57:41.560 --> 0:57:44.680 don't get there just they don't get their just we 0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:48.120 have Primo on here, but we need large prof We 0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:51.320 need Primo back. Yeah no, they both bad. Motherfucking show y'all. 0:57:51.320 --> 0:58:01.040 Sip alright, cool, cool stunt. I tell you we got 0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:12.000 one more. Yeah, got me sweat, Yeah, man, this is 0:58:12.040 --> 0:58:17.960 what we're going. So I just we'll take a shot 0:58:18.000 --> 0:58:20.760 first and then my actual last one. Again, this is 0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:24.600 the motherfucking red alert man for you. All the contributions 0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:26.640 you gave to hip hop, We love you. We want 0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:28.480 to give your flowers in your face and tell you 0:58:28.600 --> 0:58:31.520 how important and how great you are to this society, 0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:35.160 to this government of our own, to our community. This 0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:37.360 is what you mean to us. We love you. Motherfucking 0:58:37.480 --> 0:58:45.120 drink champs over here, solo. Okay, the last one, Dr 0:58:45.240 --> 0:58:50.360 Dre or paul uh Dr Dre puff. I gotta say 0:58:50.480 --> 0:58:55.720 Dre hmm. I wasn't prepared for that one. Why why 0:58:55.920 --> 0:59:00.120 the history that Dre have from man, he was with 0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:05.040 world class crew, Yeah, and had transd to so many 0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:10.919 of the different entities, and none had to evolve from 0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:16.080 row to aftermath, from ruthless to death, Row to afternoon. 0:59:16.760 --> 0:59:23.560 I forgot ruthless. Supreme, he's the brain, He's the brain 0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:26.760 because he makes pump is a person that can take 0:59:26.800 --> 0:59:28.480 the teep a bottle of cash from make it look 0:59:28.520 --> 0:59:32.120 like it's the biggest seller. That's how clever he is. 0:59:32.520 --> 0:59:36.200 He's a marketing gene, you know, and he makes it happen. 0:59:38.120 --> 0:59:43.800 But Dre and for being behind the board, he's the 0:59:43.840 --> 0:59:47.560 one that really makes that happen. You want extra question 0:59:48.040 --> 0:59:51.120 right because you just answered that too too easy? There's 0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:53.000 one extra question. You don't have to. We don't have 0:59:53.080 --> 0:59:54.920 to take a shot unless you'll want. You don't have to. 0:59:55.520 --> 1:00:00.320 But pop Daddy is saying ja Jermaine Dupris and even 1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:05.320 in his class, I heard about that, about that what 1:00:05.720 --> 1:00:07.360 do you think? You know? I'm gonna tell you something 1:00:09.280 --> 1:00:12.200 because during that time or three of them were just 1:00:12.280 --> 1:00:18.600 speaking about they was the power set of that ever hard? 1:00:19.600 --> 1:00:23.800 You know, Jermaine, a lot of people don't know have 1:00:24.000 --> 1:00:29.120 been producing a long time too. And right the Criss 1:00:29.160 --> 1:00:32.200 Course album. Yeah, I mean you know, I remember the 1:00:32.240 --> 1:00:34.680 fact that he made me jump. That he made me jump. 1:00:35.000 --> 1:00:36.960 Now he got there was a group that he had 1:00:37.360 --> 1:00:40.000 produced that that never came out. Course, Silk Time Level 1:00:41.400 --> 1:00:45.480 that came out. Should that show you that the limp 1:00:45.560 --> 1:00:50.160 of Town how long he's been putting in. I know 1:00:50.320 --> 1:00:55.160 that he's very clever bringing the youth to make them stars. 1:00:56.480 --> 1:01:04.479 Cris course she was rat you know, yeah that's dope. 1:01:04.920 --> 1:01:09.000 But who are you picking, Jermaine Depre puff daddy, Damn 1:01:10.280 --> 1:01:18.320 you m t am taking that one. I'm gonna take 1:01:18.360 --> 1:01:19.920 a shot for no matter what you were, matter what 1:01:20.040 --> 1:01:22.760 answer you give pastor I'm gonna take a shot no 1:01:22.840 --> 1:01:25.440 matter what as do you give your main or like, 1:01:25.600 --> 1:01:28.840 I actually want to see it now because I just 1:01:29.000 --> 1:01:32.520 love the puff confidence. As he was saying, he was like, man, 1:01:32.680 --> 1:01:34.680 you're not even on my lovel Get doctor Dre on 1:01:34.760 --> 1:01:37.880 the phone, Doctor Drey on the phone. That probably go 1:01:38.000 --> 1:01:42.000 from zero to sixteen. Yes, so make it happen. Like 1:01:42.080 --> 1:01:44.320 I said, he's a great salesman. And by the way, 1:01:44.360 --> 1:01:49.200 we're also drinking summer strits. It's fired and you can 1:01:49.280 --> 1:01:58.840 watch as well. Yes, yes, so um not God got honest. 1:01:58.960 --> 1:02:01.960 You're sitting there, you want to watch the battle? Who 1:02:02.280 --> 1:02:04.840 you think will when if they was the battle j 1:02:05.080 --> 1:02:11.240 d j U. Yes, that would be very tough. It's 1:02:11.240 --> 1:02:12.680 a different kind of battle because they're not in the 1:02:12.800 --> 1:02:15.760 seas necessarily spitting and they both was on the records 1:02:16.720 --> 1:02:18.200 or three of them was on the record, But it's 1:02:18.240 --> 1:02:20.520 more about the records that they were part of the 1:02:20.600 --> 1:02:25.760 whole catalog, which that's the whole idea about them. Ask artists. Yeah, 1:02:25.840 --> 1:02:27.880 as artists here they can play records as they wrote 1:02:28.000 --> 1:02:29.840 and produced and had things to go with. So now 1:02:29.960 --> 1:02:32.360 if you know that actually a better question. You want 1:02:32.360 --> 1:02:33.880 me to ask you a better credit or easier question. 1:02:33.920 --> 1:02:37.360 How about that? Which out of the three, which would 1:02:37.400 --> 1:02:43.240 you want to see Puff against Dr Dre or or 1:02:44.040 --> 1:02:47.320 they gotta be prof Dre against one of them? Just 1:02:47.400 --> 1:02:50.480 pick any match about the three. Yeah, let's go back 1:02:50.480 --> 1:02:52.640 to the old school restamant when you put all the minium, 1:02:52.680 --> 1:03:03.880 that's what that. Yeah, I see who comes out number one? Yeah, 1:03:04.160 --> 1:03:06.240 you know, I have it be Puff and Jermaine dupri 1:03:06.480 --> 1:03:09.320 and then Dre just comes in in the middle. Yeah, 1:03:09.360 --> 1:03:15.000 this is definitely vers So all right, who would you 1:03:15.120 --> 1:03:19.800 rather see Puff first j D or Puff verse J Dre. 1:03:28.400 --> 1:03:31.960 I'm taking a shot for God Puff and Dre, okay, 1:03:32.280 --> 1:03:35.120 because okay, I'll respect that answer. I'm taking a shot 1:03:35.160 --> 1:03:39.000 for that answer anyway. Slotle Sootle that damn salute. Yeah, 1:03:39.080 --> 1:03:44.000 I make it Dad, and they all three they all 1:03:44.120 --> 1:03:46.360 three gave me some great ammunition to be out there, 1:03:47.080 --> 1:03:50.400 you know, great songs and playing those records. Oh yeah, 1:03:50.960 --> 1:03:52.600 you give me the right animal, I mean out getting 1:03:52.600 --> 1:03:58.400 to feel real good. And that's three regions that they represented. Yeah, three, yeah, Okay, 1:03:58.480 --> 1:04:04.120 this is what Fat Joe said, Who invented DJ? Invented 1:04:04.160 --> 1:04:07.120 it invented? Yeah. I think that's a good question, But 1:04:07.320 --> 1:04:09.760 that come from he said, he said, you need names, 1:04:10.040 --> 1:04:12.280 like he's asking me to say that I need names. 1:04:12.400 --> 1:04:16.680 It's hard to say because before the culture that hip 1:04:16.720 --> 1:04:20.400 hop took place, it was DJ's. Before that, what they 1:04:20.440 --> 1:04:25.600 called DJ's but two turntables. I think I forgot what 1:04:25.880 --> 1:04:29.080 name they have been called, because they're the one that 1:04:29.200 --> 1:04:32.000 took the title from what a radio person was known 1:04:32.080 --> 1:04:35.280 in the beginning. He was knowing, he, she or they 1:04:35.440 --> 1:04:38.880 was known as DJ's in the beginning, and then the 1:04:39.640 --> 1:04:42.800 DJ came to them spending in the street in the clubs. 1:04:42.840 --> 1:04:47.000 That then they changed it from DJ to personalities, right right, 1:04:47.480 --> 1:04:49.880 like Martin, this is a person now that that person now, 1:04:50.240 --> 1:04:51.840 But he would have been back like he's saying, would 1:04:51.880 --> 1:04:54.200 have been back in the days called the DJ would 1:04:54.240 --> 1:04:58.680 have been called a DJ. They was and is deep 1:04:58.720 --> 1:05:01.520 to me, this is deep, ye, But no I don't. 1:05:02.440 --> 1:05:04.800 I don't know who really started it. And I know 1:05:05.000 --> 1:05:09.800 that it evolved from like dance music disco when it 1:05:09.920 --> 1:05:13.880 really took forth more and more. You know who knows. 1:05:14.080 --> 1:05:17.040 Probably could have been the DJ's own radio in his 1:05:17.160 --> 1:05:18.880 past time. I could have been the borns that was 1:05:19.200 --> 1:05:23.080 playing one record, one banking after the novel and in 1:05:23.400 --> 1:05:27.800 a big club or a big no hall, whatever it is. 1:05:28.320 --> 1:05:30.320 They were the ones that was in place of a band, 1:05:31.560 --> 1:05:34.200 because you know, everybody was having bands when they saw 1:05:34.240 --> 1:05:36.400 the DJ at one time, they used to laugh at that. 1:05:37.600 --> 1:05:41.360 I get out of here. But then the band start 1:05:41.440 --> 1:05:44.120 fading the way in the DJ started coming stronger and stronger, 1:05:44.360 --> 1:05:47.280 and the craigs started coming to right, Oh did they here? 1:05:49.040 --> 1:05:52.800 But now I was gonna say, who if you know 1:05:52.920 --> 1:05:57.840 who perfected the looping of break beats? Those fly um 1:05:59.280 --> 1:06:03.040 you're talking about out to you keep it continuous. Flash 1:06:03.400 --> 1:06:07.560 to credit that I just wanted to flashes credit as 1:06:07.680 --> 1:06:10.640 the person that learned how to make a turntable into 1:06:11.040 --> 1:06:14.560 an instrument instrument. You know he was pushing that none 1:06:14.640 --> 1:06:18.840 he was he very He's like a geek in its 1:06:18.880 --> 1:06:24.920 own way. And make sure that it's tight doing like that. Sure, yeah, okay, 1:06:24.960 --> 1:06:27.160 So I got some more questions. This is from other people. 1:06:29.240 --> 1:06:30.800 Ya don't have to standard you don't want it, you can't. 1:06:30.960 --> 1:06:36.080 Yeah you want yeah? Please quick? Yeah you can grab 1:06:36.160 --> 1:06:47.120 a seat. Okay, okay, this is from DJ now, he 1:06:47.280 --> 1:06:50.920 asked why he Yeah, just makes just make sure not 1:06:51.000 --> 1:06:53.760 in front of any of those two cameras. Yeah, yeah, 1:06:53.760 --> 1:07:00.640 stay the next one your family, yah, him why he 1:07:00.720 --> 1:07:05.240 picked me DJ enough obviously to be his apprentice after 1:07:05.640 --> 1:07:10.840 master Flex at Hot ninety seven. Because I'm curious shut 1:07:10.840 --> 1:07:13.720 out again? Please, I'm yea because I got a twist 1:07:13.760 --> 1:07:20.600 to this question, he said, asked him why he picked 1:07:21.040 --> 1:07:24.000 me obviously? This is DJ enough to be his apprentice 1:07:24.160 --> 1:07:30.680 after funk Flex started at Hot ninety seven after from 1:07:30.720 --> 1:07:33.560 Flexman deal. I'm needing another backup DJ every time we'll 1:07:33.600 --> 1:07:37.080 go away. You said that earlier, right, So I forgot 1:07:37.160 --> 1:07:39.320 to name the club. I think it's called the Aftergon. 1:07:39.440 --> 1:07:42.880 Remember Octagon Street on the West Side and this is 1:07:43.120 --> 1:07:46.840 ninety's Yeah that was like early nineties. Okay, Yeah, I 1:07:46.880 --> 1:07:50.560 wasn't around early night was put Street from the Javis 1:07:50.640 --> 1:07:54.600 Center Okay, okay, right on the street. Jacob javits. Okay, 1:07:55.120 --> 1:07:58.120 so um, here it is that I was playing for 1:07:58.240 --> 1:08:01.400 the M series that's in the organization Rest in Peace, 1:08:01.480 --> 1:08:04.680 my man Miguel, and they hired me for that night, 1:08:05.000 --> 1:08:08.720 and they hired Enough, so I got to hear Enough 1:08:08.760 --> 1:08:11.600 for the very first time. And I was bevery and 1:08:11.640 --> 1:08:15.560 pressed and was was he DJ and for big at 1:08:15.600 --> 1:08:17.280 this time? Or no? No, no, no, no no. He 1:08:17.439 --> 1:08:19.400 was in DJ for nobody. You was just a DJ 1:08:19.960 --> 1:08:23.160 doing the clubs. And when I heard him, my life 1:08:23.560 --> 1:08:27.719 m I was in press. So after being no press 1:08:27.800 --> 1:08:30.040 and everything, that's when I stepped to the program that 1:08:30.320 --> 1:08:32.800 say I have another person that I have to take 1:08:32.880 --> 1:08:35.880 the next fot and that was enough to take Flex 1:08:36.000 --> 1:08:39.439 five Flex moved on the hot night seven. Okay, so 1:08:39.680 --> 1:08:47.360 here it is next person is enough? Okay, twist to 1:08:47.439 --> 1:08:55.280 this question, I had enough, I asked him. But his answers. 1:08:55.320 --> 1:08:58.280 But when I whenever I do an interview, I always 1:08:58.320 --> 1:09:01.200 go to Twitter, always go to it, And I asked, 1:09:01.280 --> 1:09:04.160 you know you got questions, you got whatever? One of 1:09:04.280 --> 1:09:08.599 the questions that fans repeatedly asked, how did Red fail 1:09:09.680 --> 1:09:12.240 when I think Enough I was supposed to be. I 1:09:12.280 --> 1:09:17.320 think he replaced you at seven and the fact is 1:09:18.320 --> 1:09:22.120 that he was your apprentice. So is this something that 1:09:22.680 --> 1:09:25.560 you're sitting back and saying, man, this was this was 1:09:25.680 --> 1:09:29.360 something bad? Or was this something you gave your blessing too? 1:09:30.800 --> 1:09:32.599 I was hurt. I'm gonna tell you what I was hurting. 1:09:32.920 --> 1:09:37.240 Not enough, but I was hurt in a certain part 1:09:37.760 --> 1:09:41.439 about enough, because he did not realize he was being 1:09:41.640 --> 1:09:44.920 used as the pawn to move me out the way 1:09:47.120 --> 1:09:51.640 as a person you bought in. We just okay and 1:09:51.960 --> 1:09:54.920 him it is by him not noticing that because he 1:09:55.400 --> 1:09:58.200 enough French were supposed to do the morning show for 1:09:58.280 --> 1:10:01.080 a strong book about to ask that. Okay, I don't 1:10:01.120 --> 1:10:03.600 know what took place of that, but then here it 1:10:03.800 --> 1:10:07.720 is he didn't I want to do it. So I 1:10:07.840 --> 1:10:12.320 know he spending time hanging around and programming. I know 1:10:12.520 --> 1:10:17.240 that there was number one. And I'm not gonna mention 1:10:17.320 --> 1:10:21.000 no names, but there's a person in programming that I 1:10:21.080 --> 1:10:24.559 never saw at AM. And I get long with everybody, 1:10:25.240 --> 1:10:28.599 I get long with racing everybody, and I mentioned no names. 1:10:29.479 --> 1:10:33.360 I went to far I not mentioned her name because 1:10:34.280 --> 1:10:37.840 for this right here, the name is not even worth 1:10:37.920 --> 1:10:43.960 coming out my mouth. Here it is knowing that it 1:10:44.160 --> 1:10:48.200 was shaking between me and that person and knowing that 1:10:48.360 --> 1:10:52.280 they want him because he was the fresh blood. You know, 1:10:52.439 --> 1:10:54.800 I'm a veteran that I don't know how many years. 1:10:55.760 --> 1:11:00.320 So they're looking at the moon too. So they took 1:11:00.439 --> 1:11:02.400 him and put him in place and me to move me. 1:11:03.439 --> 1:11:07.120 And that's what I became hurt, because you did the 1:11:07.240 --> 1:11:11.120 fire thing to utilize this guy, and this guy not realized, 1:11:11.160 --> 1:11:14.920 and he's being utilized for me to be removed, okay, 1:11:15.439 --> 1:11:17.800 And that's what I was hurtful a while. That's why 1:11:17.880 --> 1:11:19.920 he was at That's why I was hurt for a while. 1:11:21.000 --> 1:11:23.680 And now I have to ask because I gotta be 1:11:23.800 --> 1:11:26.280 you know, so where is because Flex is also a 1:11:26.320 --> 1:11:28.760 person you brought in this game. West Flex, West, Chuck 1:11:28.880 --> 1:11:31.920 chill out during all this happening, all the air telling 1:11:32.000 --> 1:11:36.560 you Flaster was still at the station, you know, Flexson 1:11:36.600 --> 1:11:39.200 doing the Chuck is over there at Kiss at the time. 1:11:40.000 --> 1:11:44.599 You know, Um, I know they told me that after 1:11:44.720 --> 1:11:47.720 they moved me out, did they say, now even you 1:11:47.840 --> 1:11:50.120 can go ahead and just through the twelve o'clock. Remember 1:11:50.120 --> 1:11:52.840 I had two ships and the old school noon and 1:11:52.920 --> 1:11:55.080 the five o'clocks you ride, they say you even can 1:11:55.200 --> 1:11:57.400 continue on the old school noon or you can go 1:11:57.479 --> 1:12:00.439 over there to kiss. So what I did. I took 1:12:00.479 --> 1:12:03.760 a break for about three months to clear my head 1:12:04.360 --> 1:12:07.519 and then I reconsidered coming back to kiss. And that's 1:12:07.560 --> 1:12:09.720 what that means. I'm like, you both want to say 1:12:09.720 --> 1:12:21.439 something good. I want to make sure you clear shift 1:12:22.360 --> 1:12:24.840 to shift to something else. Okay, you get you right, 1:12:24.840 --> 1:12:27.600 because I mean I just want to clear it up 1:12:27.640 --> 1:12:29.800 because that's where I god like, I'm sorry, so sorry, 1:12:29.880 --> 1:12:34.519 Like you know, Twitter is the most I don't want 1:12:34.560 --> 1:12:37.040 to say negative, but it's the most like straight to 1:12:37.120 --> 1:12:40.559 the point. Like so when I when I interview anybody, 1:12:40.640 --> 1:12:43.560 I don't go to the ground. I go I go 1:12:43.680 --> 1:12:46.560 to Twitter because Twitter gonna tell me everything. And what 1:12:46.640 --> 1:12:51.600 Twitter was like, yo, everyone always felt it was a 1:12:51.680 --> 1:12:56.600 certain move, one enough part that wasn't wasn't right, like 1:12:56.880 --> 1:13:00.720 like certainly it just wasn't right. And we have never 1:13:00.760 --> 1:13:05.600 really heard rad address that. You know what? Yeah, you 1:13:05.640 --> 1:13:09.040 know what's interesting about that people even acknowledge that that. 1:13:09.280 --> 1:13:11.559 I was like, that's the first question that was asked, 1:13:12.600 --> 1:13:18.439 even acknowledging caught that only years ago, right, they still earlier. 1:13:20.120 --> 1:13:22.200 One that surprised me a little bit that she said 1:13:22.960 --> 1:13:24.599 I thought she was capping a little bit. You said, 1:13:24.600 --> 1:13:27.360 Twitter said that, but no, no, no, no, I do that. 1:13:27.479 --> 1:13:30.960 I do that. I do that for every Yeah. Yeah, 1:13:31.040 --> 1:13:34.559 because Twitter just hits me right in them. And once 1:13:34.600 --> 1:13:38.120 again the perception of how people look at social media, 1:13:38.200 --> 1:13:44.960 like you say on on Twitter, people want to see 1:13:45.080 --> 1:13:49.240 the drama side and I'm not showing that, but I 1:13:49.400 --> 1:13:54.520 feel that it's not needed for what to fulfill your satisfaction. 1:13:55.880 --> 1:14:04.240 I n D. I'm not that, but that you're gonna 1:14:04.280 --> 1:14:07.960 stay stay on this and then because because I need 1:14:08.000 --> 1:14:10.080 to notice, right because Pat Joe used to say something 1:14:10.120 --> 1:14:12.960 to me like we still um like like you know, 1:14:13.280 --> 1:14:15.439 Fat Joe's person who put me like you know, after 1:14:15.520 --> 1:14:18.920 I'm settled in Miami, He's like, you go see everyone 1:14:19.040 --> 1:14:22.360 that comes to Miami like this is an advantage. And 1:14:22.520 --> 1:14:24.479 what he would do. I would see radio people and 1:14:24.560 --> 1:14:26.760 he would always be like, you're working in radio was 1:14:26.840 --> 1:14:29.760 so crazy because you can It's like working for the 1:14:29.960 --> 1:14:32.320 baseball Like you could work up tomorrow. They could be 1:14:32.320 --> 1:14:36.360 like you in Minnesota, you and utaw them all and 1:14:36.680 --> 1:14:39.160 like your job is that you either quit or you 1:14:39.240 --> 1:14:42.720 could keep going on your job over there. So a 1:14:42.800 --> 1:14:45.800 lot of people don't understand that that works like that 1:14:46.000 --> 1:14:49.720 everywhere else but New Yak. Like in New York, they 1:14:49.840 --> 1:14:54.360 want their people to talk to them. I remember, I 1:14:54.400 --> 1:14:56.760 remember when even Ebro came. It was like a whole 1:14:56.840 --> 1:14:59.280 campaign to get evil off the radio, like for real, 1:14:59.360 --> 1:15:01.000 it was like, we want to hear our own people 1:15:01.360 --> 1:15:03.600 and us excu excuse me. It wasn't even but it 1:15:03.680 --> 1:15:07.080 was Big Boy. You don't remember when Big Boys the 1:15:07.200 --> 1:15:10.000 morning show. Big Boy was doing New York radio for 1:15:10.400 --> 1:15:12.720 l A. He was giving l A traffic. So when 1:15:12.760 --> 1:15:16.760 you heard the actual morning show was being syndicated out there, 1:15:17.160 --> 1:15:19.200 they didn't. They wasn't catching on that that we're looking 1:15:19.240 --> 1:15:22.520 at there like, uh, you know, so across last scare's 1:15:23.560 --> 1:15:28.920 wait a minute, we don't know what last year nigger is, like, 1:15:29.960 --> 1:15:32.479 we don't these Bulevard And then we started to notice 1:15:32.479 --> 1:15:35.360 they're not even giving us a show. They're giving us 1:15:35.439 --> 1:15:39.280 a show that's recorded in l A. And it was 1:15:39.400 --> 1:15:42.160 just she was just crazy at one point. So what 1:15:42.240 --> 1:15:44.000 I'm saying is I a lot of us don't know 1:15:44.320 --> 1:15:48.840 that part of it, right, So this is business, but 1:15:48.960 --> 1:15:52.040 it's still it's still personal, Like I don't care like 1:15:52.040 --> 1:15:54.200 a lot of people say, it's it's not business is personal. 1:15:54.479 --> 1:15:56.800 Like when you if you say a person's your apprentice 1:15:56.840 --> 1:15:59.800 and you you know, have flex, did you feel like 1:16:00.040 --> 1:16:04.960 like support for you at that time? Um, that's a 1:16:05.040 --> 1:16:08.760 good question. Whish I never thought of. Wish I never 1:16:08.840 --> 1:16:11.519 thought of. And I don't look for people with a 1:16:11.600 --> 1:16:13.840 back for me and they were back for me. That's 1:16:13.880 --> 1:16:17.160 on them. And I appreciate, appreciate you the fullest, but 1:16:17.280 --> 1:16:21.880 I'm not gonna be like, look at hook me up now. 1:16:22.040 --> 1:16:24.400 I have learned over the period of time I've been 1:16:24.439 --> 1:16:28.040 on radio to earn my own If I wouldn't have 1:16:28.040 --> 1:16:30.080 had done that, I wouldn't be here as long as 1:16:30.120 --> 1:16:34.760 I've been that. So I have built relationship with many people. 1:16:35.600 --> 1:16:37.639 You know, I know I gave a lot of people 1:16:38.320 --> 1:16:41.599 gripe upon my decisions what I do, such as flame music, 1:16:42.320 --> 1:16:45.880 you know what moves ever made. But I'm looking at 1:16:46.120 --> 1:16:49.040 I had my vision. So for what is it that 1:16:49.160 --> 1:16:51.920 you're looking for me? So I says what you just say? 1:16:52.400 --> 1:16:55.040 Why I bred never give an opinion. I have no 1:16:55.200 --> 1:17:00.320 reason to give her opinion. That's differend myself to say 1:17:00.720 --> 1:17:03.320 that's real ship, that's real because from the outside looking in, 1:17:05.160 --> 1:17:06.800 it looked like Flex had your back. I don't know. 1:17:07.040 --> 1:17:10.160 I don't know this. It looked like Flex had your back. 1:17:10.600 --> 1:17:14.120 It looks like what you said. They look at that too, 1:17:14.160 --> 1:17:16.720 the same Flex have my back? Because no, Flex I 1:17:16.800 --> 1:17:22.320 have and I have a very unique relationship, major respect 1:17:22.479 --> 1:17:26.479 from each other, you know, but that I don't know 1:17:27.439 --> 1:17:32.599 what say Flex have on that right? Nothing, because that's 1:17:32.640 --> 1:17:34.040 a lot of That's how a lot of people look 1:17:34.080 --> 1:17:37.559 at it. Like, Um, when people think of the background 1:17:37.600 --> 1:17:40.439 and seven, they don't think of Tracy. They don't think 1:17:40.479 --> 1:17:43.360 of the bros. They don't think of the what's my 1:17:43.479 --> 1:17:48.000 man name now, Poppy? Forget the guy no no, no, no, 1:17:48.080 --> 1:17:51.040 he's he's he's not he's not management. Um. They don't 1:17:51.080 --> 1:17:53.720 think uh, like you know, the higher ups. They think 1:17:53.760 --> 1:17:58.200 of Flex. They think Flex is actually and really I'm 1:17:58.200 --> 1:18:02.200 not all do do respect to Flex. I don't think 1:18:02.280 --> 1:18:05.519 that he makes those decisions on the background. I don't think. 1:18:05.560 --> 1:18:07.599 I don't think so. I could be wrong. When you're 1:18:07.600 --> 1:18:09.720 in the public, guy, all kind of stuff is coming 1:18:09.760 --> 1:18:12.560 that you you know, they don't know the people that 1:18:12.720 --> 1:18:15.880 behind the desk and making the moves. You guys still 1:18:15.880 --> 1:18:18.600 answer to somebody. You know, we got less of what 1:18:19.000 --> 1:18:21.000 so I can't understand what they think of because for 1:18:21.080 --> 1:18:24.200 the left of time FLEX been there. But he don't shake. 1:18:24.560 --> 1:18:28.280 He make his moves. Then he feels that's best for him. 1:18:28.680 --> 1:18:31.439 They keep growing. He still got an answer to the 1:18:31.560 --> 1:18:34.360 higher up. Now you are enough. You'll ever talked about 1:18:34.400 --> 1:18:36.840 the situation or we never talked about what I did 1:18:37.080 --> 1:18:39.719 that when I came back to kids for the final 1:18:39.800 --> 1:18:42.320 time before a close down, leave him from power, I 1:18:42.400 --> 1:18:45.240 took it upon myself and step into the studio while 1:18:45.320 --> 1:18:48.920 he was on, and I apologize to him. Why would 1:18:48.960 --> 1:18:51.800 you apologize? I felt that, you know, I deserve to 1:18:52.160 --> 1:18:54.599 give him an apology because I was silent to him 1:18:54.640 --> 1:18:58.040 for a long period of time. I wasn't saying nothing 1:18:58.160 --> 1:19:01.840 to him. I wasn't, you know, because I felt I 1:19:01.960 --> 1:19:04.040 felt hurt. But at the same talk at the time, 1:19:04.800 --> 1:19:07.920 I'm not gonna take it to the over ankle. I 1:19:08.080 --> 1:19:11.880 just stayed away until I just get you. My health 1:19:11.960 --> 1:19:14.559 can't coming back over there. Let me go ahead and polish. 1:19:15.160 --> 1:19:24.880 And that's what I did. Yeah, that's good ship man, 1:19:24.920 --> 1:19:27.800 this is doing your radio talk. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, girl, 1:19:28.160 --> 1:19:30.800 I'm sorry. She got deep man, your radio try deep Man. 1:19:30.840 --> 1:19:32.320 I was pulled in I was pulled. It was like 1:19:32.479 --> 1:19:34.320 a wall. I was like, oh, ship, that's just jumped there. 1:19:34.479 --> 1:19:38.000 So you know there's there's a lineage and an influence. 1:19:38.040 --> 1:19:40.479 I don't think people understand that comes from native tongue 1:19:41.160 --> 1:19:43.719 and that you're so instrumental in that. Can you speak 1:19:43.760 --> 1:19:48.519 about the birth of it. I have to give a 1:19:48.600 --> 1:19:54.599 lot of credit to the Jungle Brobbers Um the Jungle 1:19:54.640 --> 1:19:57.240 Brobbers from what I learned, the Jungle Brobbers and Daylight 1:19:57.320 --> 1:19:59.160 saw it got to Meatchop for the first time during 1:19:59.200 --> 1:20:01.920 the show. I think up Boston when they got to 1:20:01.960 --> 1:20:05.920 meet each other, they felt a similar vibe how they 1:20:06.040 --> 1:20:11.800 come across and what they do Africa and Mike g 1:20:12.080 --> 1:20:15.439 who is my nephew, my sister's son. They broke into 1:20:15.560 --> 1:20:20.400 Mary Bertram High School No part of Manhattan. Who was 1:20:20.439 --> 1:20:23.000 also in that school at the same time. You had 1:20:23.120 --> 1:20:28.040 q Tip, Yeah, Alice Shahi, they had you Robie, You 1:20:28.200 --> 1:20:33.439 had my man Uh from x Clam from ex Clam, 1:20:34.600 --> 1:20:37.559 j blobbo j and Wresting Piece of DJ for their 1:20:37.600 --> 1:20:43.519 sugar shop. That was always with school Mary Bercham Is 1:20:43.600 --> 1:20:46.880 this just still open? I don't know what school, just 1:20:46.960 --> 1:20:50.800 like the one the bust of us talking man. That 1:20:50.960 --> 1:20:56.000 was the school that you next to police. One police 1:20:56.040 --> 1:21:03.880 classis I don't want to bridge. So they all went 1:21:03.920 --> 1:21:08.480 to school there and you know, they was always interacting 1:21:08.520 --> 1:21:12.200 eaself against something going on. So I remember my nephews 1:21:12.240 --> 1:21:15.320 always say, yo, man, we want to make a record. 1:21:15.360 --> 1:21:17.559 We wanna make a record. So I thought it was jobbing. 1:21:17.600 --> 1:21:20.000 I didn't think they took him serious. But the first 1:21:20.040 --> 1:21:24.120 person who took them in Africa and Mike was my 1:21:24.240 --> 1:21:27.679 cousin Jos to his studio, you know that was up infront. 1:21:27.760 --> 1:21:30.479 She had a studio. He also had Strong City Records, 1:21:31.479 --> 1:21:34.960 so they did something. Then my man Tony d he 1:21:35.080 --> 1:21:37.000 had a group that came out a long time ago 1:21:37.240 --> 1:21:40.600 called Bad Boys before the label, and they made this 1:21:40.680 --> 1:21:45.439 record called Inspect the Gadget. Can you remember that? And 1:21:46.280 --> 1:21:49.439 that was under called bad Boys. Yeah, group called Bad Boys. 1:21:50.320 --> 1:21:55.240 Ricke Love who was considered the female beatbox. Um. So 1:21:56.680 --> 1:22:00.320 my man Tony was the DJ Slice producer. He said, hey, 1:22:00.360 --> 1:22:03.320 wait man, I just built the studio in my basement, 1:22:03.479 --> 1:22:06.240 you know, so anybody you wanted to bring a So 1:22:06.400 --> 1:22:08.559 that's when I threw on my nephew and they went 1:22:08.640 --> 1:22:11.920 ahead and start getting this stuff going on. Of course, 1:22:11.960 --> 1:22:13.960 you know, the first record they came out with everybody 1:22:14.040 --> 1:22:19.679 knew was Jim Browski Jim Brownsky. Yeah, and then after 1:22:19.800 --> 1:22:21.880 that because I gotta like that, you know, and then 1:22:21.920 --> 1:22:24.640 they just Camet Building Building, and then they formed the 1:22:24.760 --> 1:22:29.040 first album, Straight out the Jungle. On the on there 1:22:29.760 --> 1:22:34.400 was a record Call on the Run that was named 1:22:34.400 --> 1:22:36.280 a record Call on the Run. There was an album cut. 1:22:36.760 --> 1:22:40.160 Who featured on the album cut was q Tip, but 1:22:40.280 --> 1:22:42.840 his name was Cute Tip at that time. Um, I think, 1:22:42.880 --> 1:22:47.120 so okay. And then remember I just said to you 1:22:47.200 --> 1:22:50.360 about how Fat Joe and the Unite used to do 1:22:50.479 --> 1:22:53.559 programs for me, So you had q Tip doing program 1:22:54.479 --> 1:23:02.400 Hold on, you gotta relax. The younger Bubbers did a 1:23:02.520 --> 1:23:06.760 song called the Promo that was for the radioship, and 1:23:06.960 --> 1:23:09.760 then who was on the promo? What's q tip on 1:23:09.960 --> 1:23:14.600 their on their freestyle for the promo, and then it 1:23:14.760 --> 1:23:17.439 went to another set of a promo. Call in time 1:23:19.720 --> 1:23:22.720 grabbed everybody attention, the labelers, they said, you know, who 1:23:22.840 --> 1:23:25.000 just got a que chip? Who doesn't? And then really 1:23:25.240 --> 1:23:28.479 caught their attention because n q tip was on day 1:23:28.520 --> 1:23:31.599 l are so so on me myself and I called 1:23:31.680 --> 1:23:35.120 black is Black, called everybody attention, Yo, maybe we won't 1:23:35.160 --> 1:23:37.640 get the next guy. We got Daylight going on, we 1:23:37.720 --> 1:23:39.680 got young Brobber going on. We want to get the 1:23:39.760 --> 1:23:43.040 next guy. So they're went after Q Tip and that's 1:23:43.080 --> 1:23:46.479 when Q Tip being shocked around and wind up being 1:23:46.479 --> 1:23:50.360 on Jove Records, but his um, but his own partners 1:23:50.880 --> 1:23:56.400 and then for him trifical Quest. So now during that time, 1:23:57.000 --> 1:23:59.840 I'm getting real close to Mark, the forty five King. 1:24:00.800 --> 1:24:06.760 Respect the Mark, of course, absolutely he had the Flavor Unit. Yeah, 1:24:07.080 --> 1:24:11.320 the consists that's in New Jersey Nation, New Jersey. And 1:24:11.400 --> 1:24:15.280 the group she had there was like t Shabaz, not 1:24:15.439 --> 1:24:22.200 Kim sabas um chill rob um, let's she peace my man, 1:24:22.280 --> 1:24:26.559 the patch huh Nordy by nature. There wasn't. It wasn't 1:24:26.600 --> 1:24:32.120 around yet, it wasn't. I'm not there yet. God Almighty 1:24:32.280 --> 1:24:35.360 Arts was a part of the really. No, they were 1:24:35.400 --> 1:24:37.400 managed though by them. They was managed by them, but 1:24:37.640 --> 1:24:43.280 that was laid only because they were in Boston. And 1:24:43.439 --> 1:24:48.280 then here come creen Chief you and I why I know, 1:24:49.880 --> 1:24:54.720 I'm just saying, just keep wrong time, wrong time like 1:24:54.920 --> 1:24:57.479 wrong time. Like. The first song she came out was 1:24:57.560 --> 1:25:02.120 called the Wrath for my madness. M hm. And here 1:25:02.200 --> 1:25:06.200 it is she a labelmate rid They're like so Tommy boy. 1:25:07.200 --> 1:25:09.240 So now here it is I have a relation with 1:25:09.320 --> 1:25:16.040 Mark relation. So she now drawing into what's going on 1:25:16.360 --> 1:25:20.760 amongst the groups and she getting in frond. Here it 1:25:21.000 --> 1:25:24.320 is jungle bobs run oversea for the first time, and 1:25:24.880 --> 1:25:27.280 Africa got involved with a young lady who was the top. 1:25:27.400 --> 1:25:30.439 And see you over there at the time, Mooney love 1:25:32.000 --> 1:25:38.439 should just be connection now shot coming now, meanwhile saying 1:25:38.479 --> 1:25:44.599 African bat bottom discovered. No, no, not African ban bottom, Africa. Okay, 1:25:45.360 --> 1:25:50.240 this band bottom and then you got Africa baby band. 1:25:51.000 --> 1:25:57.920 They both Africa. But no after baby, let's take another shot. 1:25:59.080 --> 1:26:02.240 I might make it worse. He got me man, he 1:26:02.320 --> 1:26:06.720 got me man. So like I said, so baby Beam 1:26:06.840 --> 1:26:09.600 connected with money Love in the UK because you know 1:26:09.760 --> 1:26:11.800 they got involved with each other. I don't know this 1:26:11.880 --> 1:26:16.880 part about money love. Yeah, really no money she was 1:26:17.040 --> 1:26:20.160 the top MC. I did too, and no one'll kill you. 1:26:22.680 --> 1:26:24.519 I just did marriage bootcamp with us. She killed she 1:26:24.600 --> 1:26:32.320 killed everybody different were playing around an start coming back 1:26:32.400 --> 1:26:37.760 over here. Meanwhile, before before that, when I was DJ 1:26:38.000 --> 1:26:40.360 for Sparky D, he was always hitting or throughout the 1:26:40.479 --> 1:26:42.880 north who was just in Rock, South Carolina, or that 1:26:43.560 --> 1:26:46.839 I came across this DJ who was like the battist 1:26:46.920 --> 1:26:49.720 in his part of town and they used to call 1:26:49.760 --> 1:26:54.080 him short. He do want so he wind up moving 1:26:54.200 --> 1:26:56.200 up to New York and he kept on telling me 1:26:56.240 --> 1:27:01.240 about this MC half he had they do sure do 1:27:01.360 --> 1:27:04.559 I have artists? Have an artist up in from Crim's 1:27:05.960 --> 1:27:08.720 and they got together, Sure you do want to change 1:27:08.760 --> 1:27:12.880 his name to Mr Long black Sheet and Long with 1:27:13.000 --> 1:27:16.439 dress black Sheet. And the reason they caught it up 1:27:16.439 --> 1:27:19.160 black Sheet before they was the outcast of the native tongue. 1:27:20.800 --> 1:27:23.000 I don't know that. I didn't know that you went 1:27:23.040 --> 1:27:25.599 to fast hold On, So why would they the outcast 1:27:25.640 --> 1:27:28.920 a native tongue? And so natives already native tongue. There's 1:27:28.920 --> 1:27:32.840 already native tongue. But you know you're from an attachment 1:27:33.120 --> 1:27:36.920 that comes a little different from them. If you're listening 1:27:37.000 --> 1:27:40.000 to how this out, it was at that time black Sheet. 1:27:41.520 --> 1:27:45.320 The next the next one that come ray after, who 1:27:45.479 --> 1:27:50.760 was considered the youngster of the whole tribe, and that 1:27:51.000 --> 1:27:56.160 came through Chris Liffek Baby Chris. You know why we're 1:27:56.160 --> 1:28:03.080 calling Baby Chris because it's because he wanted to know 1:28:05.120 --> 1:28:09.479 like you don't edit, so if so, I just thought 1:28:09.479 --> 1:28:11.760 about that. I was like, people feel that they call 1:28:11.840 --> 1:28:15.760 on baby Crypta because the faby face. He had the 1:28:15.840 --> 1:28:19.200 young face. But actually because remember I said there was 1:28:19.200 --> 1:28:22.840 another Chris in the valley and Chris Alee. So Chris 1:28:22.920 --> 1:28:26.760 Alee and Chris like Chris that he was younger than 1:28:26.840 --> 1:28:31.639 Chris hality, so we call him baby Chris. So he's 1:28:31.640 --> 1:28:34.799 the one that brought en that he became the factor 1:28:36.760 --> 1:28:41.120 and it was just formulated from its own. But I 1:28:41.280 --> 1:28:44.760 always give credit to his younger public Cordy initiate the 1:28:44.800 --> 1:28:49.640 whole thing from start. So was let me this is 1:28:49.800 --> 1:28:53.120 actually I know you asked the question now, but what 1:28:53.240 --> 1:28:55.000 I want to know is because it felt like it 1:28:55.120 --> 1:28:58.800 was a lous affiliation, but you were the figurehead that's 1:28:58.840 --> 1:29:01.760 on radio, that's kind of organizing it. Because what I 1:29:01.840 --> 1:29:04.160 always thought when they were all signed to you, that's 1:29:04.400 --> 1:29:06.160 that's not I don't know that, that's what I didn't 1:29:06.160 --> 1:29:10.760 feel like that no Trunkle Brothers and Trapical Questions signed 1:29:10.800 --> 1:29:14.760 to me and and black Sheet. Because I was an 1:29:14.760 --> 1:29:17.679 executive person, you had a native to just go round 1:29:17.760 --> 1:29:33.760 it off, round it off, Come on, come on, let 1:29:33.840 --> 1:29:44.000 me with that ve we gotta start humble, humbled. You 1:29:44.080 --> 1:29:50.479 know what that would do When I said in the 1:29:50.560 --> 1:29:53.880 beginning that there's a lineage and and there's there's a 1:29:53.960 --> 1:29:57.200 legacy and influence. I'm talking about Kanye, I'm talking about 1:29:58.720 --> 1:30:00.840 and there's probably I feel like Kendrick. I feel like 1:30:00.880 --> 1:30:04.880 there's so many people today that are influenced directly and 1:30:04.960 --> 1:30:09.640 indirectly by what Native Tongues was doing. That that's that's that, 1:30:11.439 --> 1:30:14.000 and it's a positive impact on hip hop because it 1:30:14.120 --> 1:30:17.000 was like it was like the guys that you know 1:30:17.160 --> 1:30:20.000 that's not a suckers, but they wasn't promoting violence, and 1:30:20.040 --> 1:30:22.240 everyone else was kind of like what they wasn't suck as. 1:30:22.520 --> 1:30:27.519 You can tell they wasn't. That's what made him even braver. 1:30:27.680 --> 1:30:30.640 They was gonna be this way promote positivity, but they 1:30:30.720 --> 1:30:33.519 wasn't suck as either. You know what it is really 1:30:33.760 --> 1:30:39.839 understand that the culture of hip hop resonate from the streets. 1:30:40.960 --> 1:30:43.639 We know that, so you're gonna have that element inside. 1:30:44.560 --> 1:30:46.360 Asked how the way you bring it to your table? 1:30:46.880 --> 1:30:48.720 But then there's some people to learn. How do we 1:30:48.880 --> 1:30:52.800 find it. It's like saying there's some people that's in 1:30:52.920 --> 1:30:55.479 the mob. Now you know the mob is all about, 1:30:56.120 --> 1:30:59.680 but they come about the suits that come to the 1:30:59.760 --> 1:31:05.800 table just about until forever. Notice, So that's what I'm 1:31:05.880 --> 1:31:08.120 saying about. You know, some of the people in hip 1:31:08.160 --> 1:31:12.840 hop culture you ain't got always in the beginning. You know, 1:31:12.960 --> 1:31:17.680 if you know what you're about, what you represent, then 1:31:17.800 --> 1:31:22.920 you just let it be. Damn. I forgot the other question. 1:31:22.960 --> 1:31:25.320 I had a good one, but I remember it. But 1:31:25.400 --> 1:31:29.080 let me ask you this one in the words of 1:31:29.160 --> 1:31:33.120 my man Biggie, did you ever think hip hop we'll 1:31:33.200 --> 1:31:40.240 take it this far? Yes? Or no? No? More more? Yes? More? Yes. 1:31:40.800 --> 1:31:43.320 The reason why I said the norm because there have 1:31:43.439 --> 1:31:46.920 been so much turbulence that happened along the way. Get 1:31:47.040 --> 1:31:49.920 into this journey, getting into this journey, and you always 1:31:49.920 --> 1:31:52.040 say to yourself quietly, you don't say that I allowed 1:31:52.160 --> 1:31:55.559 you say that. God, damny, we built all this up 1:31:55.600 --> 1:31:58.600 for this and we're going four apart, you know. But 1:31:58.840 --> 1:32:04.360 it's always see I'm find a way to submerge to 1:32:04.520 --> 1:32:09.360 the next factor. What it is. Um it took a 1:32:09.520 --> 1:32:15.720 vole for quote unquote them. How can I say the 1:32:15.800 --> 1:32:21.559 commercial world to accept embrace the culture? And I'm saying 1:32:21.600 --> 1:32:23.439 the coach is not just the music, but a little 1:32:23.439 --> 1:32:25.800 bit of everything. But it had to start with the music. 1:32:26.000 --> 1:32:28.280 It's not we won the fucking world. Hey, where you go? 1:32:28.560 --> 1:32:31.880 Hip hop is everywhere? Yeah, but I imagine it wasn't 1:32:31.920 --> 1:32:34.040 like that back there. No no, no, no, no no, 1:32:34.520 --> 1:32:37.680 because mine remember but I was coming on. I was 1:32:37.760 --> 1:32:39.920 coming on in eleven to two in the morning. But 1:32:40.000 --> 1:32:42.880 when they saw having ratings was that's when they moved 1:32:42.960 --> 1:32:45.479 Chucking Eye down to a more prime time nine to twelve, 1:32:45.680 --> 1:32:50.479 up against Magic at the same time. And then here 1:32:50.520 --> 1:32:54.880 it is, you're form a hip hop station Hot nineties seven. 1:32:55.720 --> 1:32:59.719 That's all day hip hop. So that's not coming across 1:33:00.000 --> 1:33:02.880 to the majority. Remember it used to be late night 1:33:02.960 --> 1:33:05.599 shows for hip hop. Wasn't supposed to be like care 1:33:05.680 --> 1:33:09.080 for that's what brand the station. I don't know nothing 1:33:09.120 --> 1:33:11.479 about that in the beginning. Yeah, he was like the 1:33:11.600 --> 1:33:15.400 voice of the station and like seven when you first fall, 1:33:16.160 --> 1:33:19.160 I can't understand where you're coming from. Because the same 1:33:19.240 --> 1:33:21.400 thing they probably did with Dare CalCon and the same 1:33:21.439 --> 1:33:26.200 thing they did it kiss that firm Kisum Classic Odies, 1:33:27.160 --> 1:33:29.479 who was the voice for Kisser from at that time. 1:33:29.600 --> 1:33:35.000 Recipiece Barry White as a has after him Simpson. So 1:33:35.240 --> 1:33:39.000 you know you had that voice that show that where 1:33:39.040 --> 1:33:42.760 it represents. So that's why they why he probably used Chris. 1:33:43.320 --> 1:33:48.320 He represented hip hop fresh like you know, it washed away, 1:33:48.320 --> 1:33:50.920 it didn't happen. That's that's the way it looked like 1:33:50.960 --> 1:33:54.080 to me. Jedi mind Trick, I was a fan, so 1:33:54.160 --> 1:33:56.920 se Besalge that said, my favorite DJ Premier promo that 1:33:57.120 --> 1:33:59.960 he made for the read Lercature. Damn they made a 1:34:00.040 --> 1:34:05.439 whole song just for a promo. Premiere. Yeah, huh yea, 1:34:05.880 --> 1:34:12.519 let's talk about that, um premiere. You know when I 1:34:12.640 --> 1:34:14.599 had my office at the time, but the Lord production 1:34:14.640 --> 1:34:18.000 on twenty nine Street. Here it is a guy named 1:34:18.040 --> 1:34:21.280 Stuve find used to have Wild Pitch Records and Wild 1:34:21.320 --> 1:34:24.080 Pitch Records had the group called Game Store right long 1:34:24.160 --> 1:34:27.400 with your rob Ge and Main saw us a couple others. 1:34:28.000 --> 1:34:32.680 So um here it is that Premiere just took it 1:34:32.800 --> 1:34:35.320 upon himself because you know that everybody always making so 1:34:35.439 --> 1:34:53.519 many different promol songs for my show told about we 1:34:53.760 --> 1:34:58.640 we we We're gonna give the lecture his clarity. I 1:34:58.720 --> 1:35:01.200 got the idea of using him when he was a child. 1:35:01.760 --> 1:35:04.479 I got that from the legend that we can spider 1:35:04.560 --> 1:35:07.160 Web that was on Video New York when he was 1:35:07.240 --> 1:35:11.040 on BLS. Here's to have his twin sons and his 1:35:11.200 --> 1:35:14.720 daughter do promo swam. So by the time when I 1:35:14.840 --> 1:35:17.479 got on the radio, I wanted to do something that 1:35:17.640 --> 1:35:24.280 appeal to the young audience. Wow. Yeah, yeah, it's a 1:35:24.360 --> 1:35:30.720 family affairs. You know. Blue Ivy is like she just 1:35:30.800 --> 1:35:33.160 wanted to grab me like so like you like the 1:35:33.200 --> 1:35:54.400 first Blue, I like, yeah, that's super dope. But you 1:35:54.439 --> 1:35:58.920 know I already had these ideas ways to portray and 1:35:59.120 --> 1:36:02.680 be different and stand out. So that's what's part of 1:36:02.720 --> 1:36:05.400 the whole point back to what you're talking about. Premiere 1:36:05.760 --> 1:36:08.680 from Premiere and Gangster. You know Gangster I signed, So 1:36:08.800 --> 1:36:11.200 Pamier took it apart himself to make that promo for me. 1:36:11.560 --> 1:36:14.360 He said it was on Wild Pitch Records. Wild Picture. 1:36:15.360 --> 1:36:17.840 Uh huh was on Wild Picture that time. No, but 1:36:18.000 --> 1:36:24.800 live at the Barbecues Barbecue okay, okay, so that's where 1:36:24.800 --> 1:36:29.080 you first heard not right, uh huh. And you know, 1:36:29.120 --> 1:36:33.200 I'm gonna tell you something about Google Rest in Peace recipes. 1:36:34.080 --> 1:36:36.200 I remember the first couple of times Google used to 1:36:36.280 --> 1:36:38.120 come up to me at the station and bring me 1:36:38.200 --> 1:36:43.720 something to listen to. I'd be like, nah, you wasn't 1:36:43.720 --> 1:36:45.840 feeling it, but I didn't feel it. Yeah I was. 1:36:46.000 --> 1:36:50.040 You know, that's my quote to tell you, fine, bring 1:36:50.160 --> 1:36:54.120 up to me when I heard I need I needed 1:36:54.120 --> 1:36:56.120 to let me take a guess at with records. No, 1:36:56.160 --> 1:36:57.760 I'm not gonna take a guess. I forgot. I don't 1:36:57.760 --> 1:37:00.680 have it all right, cool and themony let me hear it. 1:37:02.479 --> 1:37:06.320 That's the one. The word I'm manifest. Damn, I would 1:37:06.320 --> 1:37:10.439 have been wrong. I'm glad I didn't guess that. You 1:37:10.479 --> 1:37:15.080 wouldn't have heard the record. You wouldn't have heard the record. Man, 1:37:15.840 --> 1:37:20.600 That's why questions you know what I think right know, 1:37:20.760 --> 1:37:23.280 over the years, that was mad at me because I 1:37:23.400 --> 1:37:27.120 know they put their rented and making music and such 1:37:27.160 --> 1:37:29.479 a search and bring you to me. But I've ever 1:37:29.600 --> 1:37:32.760 be honest. Yeah, you're helping. I've ever be honest and 1:37:32.840 --> 1:37:35.840 let you know if it's good or not. And some 1:37:36.000 --> 1:37:37.960 people think I was taking favorites. No, no, no, no, 1:37:38.080 --> 1:37:40.320 I'm not judging the person. I'm judging. But the song 1:37:40.479 --> 1:37:44.599 sound like. But let me ask you something because Funk 1:37:44.640 --> 1:37:48.639 Flex I I've seen funk Flex stand on this seeing 1:37:48.680 --> 1:37:54.280 people come up to Flex offer him money and flex, Nope, 1:37:54.840 --> 1:37:56.880 I play a record if it's dope and that's it. 1:37:57.680 --> 1:37:59.960 Have you ever been offered money so many a times? 1:38:00.120 --> 1:38:06.120 Come the time? Know, I told him I piped myself. 1:38:08.160 --> 1:38:11.160 I think you gotta make some noise for that. I love. 1:38:11.439 --> 1:38:17.439 Put Mike down, Mike down right, Yeah, go ahead myself. 1:38:19.400 --> 1:38:22.960 This is what I learned. Once you receive, you are 1:38:23.080 --> 1:38:27.160 being hunt yep. So I'm not gonna let nobody go 1:38:27.280 --> 1:38:28.880 and do that for me. I don't care how much 1:38:28.920 --> 1:38:31.040 you put it in. And they can call me stilly, stupid, 1:38:31.680 --> 1:38:34.200 what's wrong with you? But let me ask you. This 1:38:34.320 --> 1:38:38.519 is real talk. This is I see the guard. What 1:38:38.720 --> 1:38:40.200 is it like when a person come up to y'all 1:38:40.280 --> 1:38:42.400 to say, can you play this like I got, you know, 1:38:42.760 --> 1:38:46.280 two hundred or whatever? What is it? Your integrity feels 1:38:46.280 --> 1:38:49.439 like it's being taken away because I feel like I 1:38:49.479 --> 1:38:52.840 feel that as a insult. I feel that in suck 1:38:52.920 --> 1:38:56.760 because you feel like this is beautiful debate. But I'm 1:38:56.800 --> 1:38:59.360 taking I'm taking the bait. Okay, why I gotta take 1:38:59.400 --> 1:39:03.160 the bait mine and take what I believe in his crap, 1:39:04.400 --> 1:39:08.880 you know, disrespecting your credibility, you know, your credibility and 1:39:09.000 --> 1:39:12.240 shot oh, you ain't gonna play with d get paid 1:39:12.320 --> 1:39:15.160 for but not no, no, because I remember there was 1:39:15.200 --> 1:39:22.040 this DJ list that came out names his name, and 1:39:23.320 --> 1:39:25.680 I remember Flex being so proud not to be on 1:39:25.760 --> 1:39:30.160 this DJ list and and he kept expressing like, you 1:39:30.240 --> 1:39:35.120 know why people taking like and I don't remember what 1:39:35.320 --> 1:39:37.679 it was, but your name was not on the list 1:39:38.120 --> 1:39:39.680 and flex name was not on this. This is a 1:39:39.800 --> 1:39:44.280 list of DJs who took spread. This was at the time. 1:39:44.600 --> 1:39:47.679 I didn't care about the list from everywhere else. I'm 1:39:48.280 --> 1:39:50.840 New York, so I'm just looking at the list and 1:39:50.880 --> 1:39:53.559 flexwer the lists up. I don't know if you'll remember. 1:39:53.640 --> 1:39:57.080 Flets got on him, was like what are you doing 1:39:58.680 --> 1:40:01.639 about the Listen about the list? It was I guess 1:40:01.680 --> 1:40:04.040 it was a label somebody got fired or whatever. And 1:40:04.160 --> 1:40:05.800 just was like, Yo, look we got we got proof 1:40:05.840 --> 1:40:14.840 of us paying every certain people. And I want to 1:40:14.880 --> 1:40:20.560 ask that question, like why why, why is your integrity? 1:40:21.760 --> 1:40:25.400 And I'm almost positive Flex told me he got it 1:40:25.479 --> 1:40:28.120 from you, or he said that on the radio, like Brad, 1:40:28.160 --> 1:40:30.840 they never take no money. I ain't never taken no money. 1:40:31.880 --> 1:40:34.439 I'm almost positive I heard Flex say that and give 1:40:34.479 --> 1:40:37.360 you your problem for that. But more moost positive. I 1:40:37.479 --> 1:40:42.000 can't tell you I take you ninety percent. I remember 1:40:42.120 --> 1:40:43.920 him saying that I'm from my older radio two. This 1:40:44.080 --> 1:40:45.960 is not like so we can google this and we'll 1:40:46.040 --> 1:40:49.559 we'll make that. But why was it that you never 1:40:49.720 --> 1:40:54.400 broke your morals? You never broke your integrity because you're 1:40:54.439 --> 1:40:59.600 disrespecting yourself. Number one, you should change yourself for some 1:41:00.160 --> 1:41:04.320 that's like saying, who this you as an artist, I'm 1:41:04.400 --> 1:41:07.960 just making this as a compass. To do it, you 1:41:07.960 --> 1:41:12.680 wouldn't get paid just a certain amount of money, but 1:41:12.920 --> 1:41:15.160 you're not getting it because nobody want to give it 1:41:15.200 --> 1:41:17.640 to you until you get that one shot, and you 1:41:17.720 --> 1:41:20.280 get that one big Now you're looking for another number 1:41:20.680 --> 1:41:25.519 ain't gonna come here it is. I want my respect. 1:41:26.280 --> 1:41:29.200 I'm gonna keep my respect, So why should I take 1:41:29.280 --> 1:41:31.600 that one shot taken? And then before you know you 1:41:31.680 --> 1:41:34.679 got a reputation out of here, you put a cap 1:41:34.800 --> 1:41:38.120 on yourself. People know they can good boy you for 1:41:38.200 --> 1:41:44.280 three because the boy get around. One thing I learned 1:41:44.280 --> 1:41:47.240 about in the industry, Well you know I just took 1:41:47.280 --> 1:41:49.400 care of red for this. I said, I saw them 1:41:49.439 --> 1:41:51.760 do that too many others. I'm not gonna be in 1:41:51.840 --> 1:41:54.680 there you know. And not only that, There's have been 1:41:54.760 --> 1:41:58.880 times even records I did play, or they may say 1:41:58.960 --> 1:42:04.519 chromequol I broke you know. Um, they wanted to congratulate me. 1:42:04.560 --> 1:42:08.040 I say, no, I don't want nothing. You want to 1:42:08.120 --> 1:42:11.080 pay me, how may you do? I've been released part. 1:42:12.240 --> 1:42:15.640 I'd rather get paid like that for my services, not 1:42:15.880 --> 1:42:19.240 because of what I just played. Because as a DJ, 1:42:19.600 --> 1:42:23.800 you stop me if I'm wrong as a DJ, because 1:42:23.800 --> 1:42:26.040 you said this earlier. You said even it was my competition, 1:42:26.360 --> 1:42:28.040 if they had the hot ship. As a DJ, it 1:42:28.120 --> 1:42:31.639 was your job to supply to your audience, right, That's 1:42:31.680 --> 1:42:33.439 the whole point. One game got nothing to do with 1:42:33.479 --> 1:42:35.160 the other. Because I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell 1:42:35.160 --> 1:42:37.400 you what it was. And now that my memory keeps 1:42:37.439 --> 1:42:42.400 coming back, it was Young and May's second record, and 1:42:42.520 --> 1:42:45.400 Young and May second record, New York felt like Young 1:42:45.479 --> 1:42:48.200 and May, who should have been behind her first record work, 1:42:48.680 --> 1:42:51.600 what about second record is just sucking be behind it? 1:42:52.360 --> 1:42:57.560 And there was a track actually track of DJ's that 1:42:57.680 --> 1:43:02.200 wouldn't play it because they didn't get no paper. Remember 1:43:02.280 --> 1:43:05.160 that's what I'm trying to tell you. That my memory 1:43:05.240 --> 1:43:08.080 brought it up. Yeah, that's my memory the summertime, Joiner, 1:43:08.479 --> 1:43:10.640 remember when the flex was going, I remember it was 1:43:11.439 --> 1:43:15.479 you were It was another recording that record, and I 1:43:15.600 --> 1:43:17.400 felt I felt like it was a stance that the 1:43:17.479 --> 1:43:20.080 DJs was taking. This isn't quiet. Yeah, you know what 1:43:20.120 --> 1:43:22.120 I'm saying. Damn, I'm so glad. Please y'all to be 1:43:22.200 --> 1:43:25.599 mad at me, But I ain't dropping the record anyway. 1:43:26.360 --> 1:43:29.360 Let me bring your up. This happened during the time 1:43:29.720 --> 1:43:32.200 and happened now, he said it. It could be a 1:43:32.280 --> 1:43:36.360 collector of us all again the record the same time. Now, 1:43:36.439 --> 1:43:39.400 I don't really know individually who it was. And I 1:43:39.479 --> 1:43:43.559 got to word that. But you know what, niggas want 1:43:43.600 --> 1:43:45.639 to funk with this record, but they said they didn't 1:43:45.640 --> 1:43:48.960 want They got their hands out for it. Y I 1:43:49.080 --> 1:43:50.880 end up put my hands out for it. So now 1:43:51.120 --> 1:43:53.200 if I go ahead and I like this record and 1:43:53.280 --> 1:43:56.960 I played whoever was having their hand out, they're mad 1:43:57.000 --> 1:43:58.639 at me. You know why they feel that I an't 1:43:58.680 --> 1:44:01.600 blocking them because I ain't got anything to do with that. 1:44:02.640 --> 1:44:05.240 You believe in something, you go, I ain't there because 1:44:05.320 --> 1:44:08.639 you you're going ahead and have more ammunition where you're 1:44:08.680 --> 1:44:11.040 out in the clubs, out in the radio, whatever it is. 1:44:11.560 --> 1:44:13.680 As you're working, I funk with that. Let me just 1:44:13.720 --> 1:44:17.120 make some let me just place the floor. But let 1:44:17.160 --> 1:44:19.439 me ask your questions. Do you feel there's a clear 1:44:19.520 --> 1:44:24.240 difference between industry and culture? Oh big time, because when 1:44:24.280 --> 1:44:26.880 we're talking about is industry ship, that's industrhip. When you 1:44:26.920 --> 1:44:30.120 come out Payola were talking about he said the record 1:44:30.200 --> 1:44:35.320 is high personal and all that and what he believes 1:44:35.520 --> 1:44:38.200 to stand for the culture, for the culture. And then 1:44:38.280 --> 1:44:40.120 here it is. I'm gonna tell you it's a tap 1:44:40.240 --> 1:44:43.519 or the industry too. I'm gonna tell you why number one, 1:44:44.680 --> 1:44:49.880 I'm getting many record send weekly. I got to pick 1:44:49.920 --> 1:44:53.200 and choose sound right. If I don't pick and choose 1:44:53.240 --> 1:44:56.800 sound right now, I'll just play whatever my ratings go down. 1:44:57.600 --> 1:45:00.519 If my ratings go down, I get replaced. But so 1:45:00.600 --> 1:45:03.080 what did I do? I got now down to see 1:45:03.120 --> 1:45:07.160 what is the right, what is good? And I always 1:45:07.160 --> 1:45:12.120 set people do this three records. A person who is 1:45:12.160 --> 1:45:17.200 already established your homeboy or something that you really believe in. 1:45:17.840 --> 1:45:21.240 Which one you gonna pick? They look at me, say 1:45:21.280 --> 1:45:22.600 which one you go pick? I say the one I 1:45:22.640 --> 1:45:25.840 believe in it? They say't why they established first and 1:45:25.880 --> 1:45:28.840 already got his the homeboy should respect what you're doing, 1:45:29.439 --> 1:45:32.160 the one you believe in a credibility, but what you 1:45:32.240 --> 1:45:44.720 break absolutely he killed that and it makes sense, it 1:45:44.840 --> 1:45:49.200 makes it makes sense. Then if I find your makes sense, 1:45:49.960 --> 1:45:52.479 I wait for you to come back. As many of 1:45:52.560 --> 1:45:55.160 y'all know, Drink Chance wants to give flowers while people 1:45:55.200 --> 1:45:58.120 are here to receive them. Giving flowers and celebrating our 1:45:58.240 --> 1:46:01.160 legends while they can still smell them. We have partnered 1:46:01.200 --> 1:46:04.040 with What the Flower to create this movement where everyone 1:46:04.120 --> 1:46:06.960 can give flowers to the legends in their lives. You 1:46:07.040 --> 1:46:09.719 can now order a custom flower box for to someone 1:46:09.840 --> 1:46:13.639 you want to show appreciation to by visiting www dot 1:46:14.120 --> 1:46:18.879 wt flower dot com and place your orders now. Fire. 1:46:18.960 --> 1:47:28.840 I love this, h oh Man, Holy movie Rock the movie. 1:47:29.120 --> 1:47:32.920 So what's your favorite area hip hop? I know actually 1:47:32.960 --> 1:47:38.160 earlier eighties. I know you said eighties. Um, I said 1:47:38.240 --> 1:47:44.280 late eighties, late eighties, because late eighties before self destruct 1:47:45.360 --> 1:47:51.320 it was I say more eight Okay, Daddy can got 1:47:51.360 --> 1:47:55.160 the flat top out. It came with popping something pepper 1:47:55.240 --> 1:48:00.160 was popping. Base came out hard. Uh end up, they 1:48:00.280 --> 1:48:05.760 came out hard, too short came out hard. Um um 1:48:06.360 --> 1:48:10.719 who else I could damn boogie Downald Course Modi second album, 1:48:11.320 --> 1:48:15.439 Everything in the Rockim second album. Um of course Boogie 1:48:15.479 --> 1:48:17.680 Down had that second album at the same time. A 1:48:17.960 --> 1:48:20.360 eight was a Pinnacle time and now only that that 1:48:20.560 --> 1:48:24.920 was the year that Yo MTV Rap came out. It 1:48:25.040 --> 1:48:33.439 came out Slick iced Tea. Yeah, y. So when you 1:48:33.560 --> 1:48:37.320 got when you got your MTV rap, you got two 1:48:37.400 --> 1:48:41.000 major tours. There was two major hip hop tours. What 1:48:41.360 --> 1:48:43.320 what was those? The one I was only called the 1:48:43.400 --> 1:48:46.960 Dope Jam Tour. That was Everybody Jam, Dope Jam Tour, 1:48:47.960 --> 1:48:55.640 Dope Jam Mistakes, Dope Jams. I was like, really that 1:48:55.920 --> 1:49:00.800 that was rock Kim, Douggie Fresh, Boogie Down, Putting Koo Moo, 1:49:01.000 --> 1:49:07.960 d Ice Tea, and Western Peace Business Market. You know 1:49:08.080 --> 1:49:11.200 why because within that summer we did fifty three cities. 1:49:12.880 --> 1:49:16.320 They don't have tours like that number. The our tour 1:49:17.040 --> 1:49:19.000 was the tour that was I think it was run 1:49:19.080 --> 1:49:22.479 DMC in it. No, it was it was Jazzys your 1:49:22.600 --> 1:49:29.000 First Friends E p M D BEASTI Boys, e p 1:49:29.200 --> 1:49:32.040 M D Beast Boys. I'm trying to remember what. But 1:49:32.320 --> 1:49:35.759 they was major two. You know, different type of energy 1:49:35.840 --> 1:49:39.080 from both tours, but we was capturing the whole summer 1:49:39.600 --> 1:49:43.280 and your MTV rap came out. That was that was 1:49:43.360 --> 1:49:50.040 a breakthrough. That was the breakthrough for everybody, come behind U. 1:49:51.280 --> 1:49:54.679 That was that's that's crazy. That's now the game changer. 1:49:54.840 --> 1:50:01.280 I saw twice after success, uh the generation I come 1:50:01.360 --> 1:50:05.800 from with Flashing them and Punky four plus one and 1:50:06.200 --> 1:50:10.160 a um Curtis blow and no so sorry for it. 1:50:10.640 --> 1:50:18.439 The next wave was run DMC Fat Boys, Whodini, Then 1:50:18.520 --> 1:50:23.639 DMC Fat Boys, deny um l came a little after 1:50:24.520 --> 1:50:28.960 right behind him, and then eight six here comes another change. 1:50:30.240 --> 1:50:37.000 V kim m um, kim um. What I was just saying, 1:50:37.040 --> 1:50:41.479 boogie down production Salt and Pepper a year right year 1:50:41.520 --> 1:50:46.479 before A six heavy d come and play doug you 1:50:46.560 --> 1:50:49.160 first tried coming out because the show by Dougie first 1:50:49.200 --> 1:50:52.080 came out of eight five, you know, brought three more 1:50:52.160 --> 1:50:54.280 years and how many years that the show? But not 1:50:55.000 --> 1:51:01.280 then your forty um now here is after that hour 1:51:02.200 --> 1:51:05.000 coming into the late eighties. After that eighty eight, here 1:51:05.080 --> 1:51:10.760 comes the native tongue. Ever after that native tone Ever, 1:51:11.320 --> 1:51:15.160 then you're going into early nineties. Was the grimmy Ever 1:51:16.560 --> 1:51:20.160 does affect the Lords of the Underground, you know, and 1:51:20.360 --> 1:51:23.519 several other casts that are similar to that you also 1:51:23.680 --> 1:51:25.960 have from people that had the skills and the styles, 1:51:26.080 --> 1:51:33.200 not fool nickings. We don't prove they're coming to they're 1:51:33.200 --> 1:51:37.080 coming soon too. Oh yeah, that's only nineties. They're not 1:51:37.200 --> 1:51:41.760 here to coming to ninety three, ninety four, ninety five. Yeah. Come. 1:51:42.040 --> 1:51:44.600 And also respect to the West coast, cause they was 1:51:44.640 --> 1:51:49.400 holding down only nineties. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, they was 1:51:49.439 --> 1:51:52.519 holding down a head. It was holding down heavy. And 1:51:53.439 --> 1:51:56.760 because Snoop came out hard and early nineties, that deep 1:51:56.800 --> 1:52:01.760 cover changed again, you know, soldier, so it's a midship yeah, 1:52:03.240 --> 1:52:10.240 now coming into it within ninety the bad boy ever ever, 1:52:11.479 --> 1:52:18.559 you got people from down outcast, outcast, you got change. 1:52:18.800 --> 1:52:21.720 So we kept seeing how everything kept with revolving, and 1:52:22.400 --> 1:52:25.639 that was my job to make sure that I'm listening, 1:52:25.680 --> 1:52:27.960 paying attention. What is it right for me to go 1:52:28.120 --> 1:52:32.120 in for sound real quick? I'm sorry? Yeah, because also 1:52:32.840 --> 1:52:38.120 that ninety five Nies six hours two people came out 1:52:39.200 --> 1:52:41.560 and your man had a different type of sound and 1:52:41.680 --> 1:52:44.240 were on his show. So we gotta give him something 1:52:44.320 --> 1:52:46.880 spect because there ain't nobody here, no ship like that. 1:52:46.960 --> 1:52:49.840 When they put on that chill him. Oh yeah, that's 1:52:49.920 --> 1:52:53.679 ninety seven, that's seven yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:52:54.640 --> 1:53:00.519 school and we was outside. Yeah yeah, what I'm saying, 1:53:01.400 --> 1:53:12.880 please get no flowers because following was a game changing 1:53:12.960 --> 1:53:16.280 that Permi Premier I said. I heard he has a 1:53:16.400 --> 1:53:18.920 video of mad shows from back in the days and 1:53:19.000 --> 1:53:25.280 he won't give anyone any copies. Premier wants them. Is 1:53:25.360 --> 1:53:28.280 that true? Are you're sitting around with the golden arches 1:53:28.320 --> 1:53:33.559 of documentaries right now? He's making a documentary more news 1:53:33.640 --> 1:53:37.560 that he's loving. So that is a yes, you do have. 1:53:38.080 --> 1:53:42.320 I have a great selection. I got a great selection 1:53:42.520 --> 1:53:45.880 of that, and even from the beginning stages. That's what 1:53:45.960 --> 1:53:48.880 I'm saying of all for thees, not not putting with 1:53:48.960 --> 1:53:54.880 my friend, not visual audio audio audio. So then that's 1:53:54.920 --> 1:53:56.760 how we take it to Netflix. Were just making a cat. 1:53:56.840 --> 1:54:00.679 We're making cartoons. Yeah, animazet this money right the photos 1:54:00.720 --> 1:54:03.479 for it? You make that animated cause you got the 1:54:03.479 --> 1:54:09.160 audio already. Yeah yeah, I don't have no vision. I 1:54:09.240 --> 1:54:13.639 was recording all the parties on the jams in the beginning. 1:54:15.000 --> 1:54:17.840 That's priceless. Talking about we've been talking about you know, 1:54:17.960 --> 1:54:21.639 getting int Oh you gotta do that. I've been trying 1:54:21.640 --> 1:54:24.160 to expose him that I have been We've been talking about, 1:54:24.320 --> 1:54:27.680 you know, creating some content and putting some consent out. 1:54:28.120 --> 1:54:29.640 But we've got some people to connect you all with 1:54:29.720 --> 1:54:37.080 it if you need people. Yeah. Yeah, this is a 1:54:37.200 --> 1:54:39.520 legends legend, just like cas when we had cats here, 1:54:39.760 --> 1:54:46.120 allegend legends, cash cash, We're supposed to have Mellie, Mellie me, 1:54:46.520 --> 1:54:49.320 he's gonna come back to He's gonna come to the show. Yeah. Yeah, 1:54:49.480 --> 1:54:52.360 but I just I just I just love this, these 1:54:52.440 --> 1:54:57.040 history lessons that you we need it. Yeah, appreciate that 1:54:57.160 --> 1:54:59.520 you have on this platform for people to come in here. Yeah, 1:54:59.600 --> 1:55:02.080 because know what's the crazy thing is it was like, 1:55:04.000 --> 1:55:05.720 you know, we love how do they seven? We love 1:55:05.760 --> 1:55:08.920 how one of five? We love? But what it is 1:55:09.080 --> 1:55:13.920 is it's for the newest, hottest people. But what's about 1:55:13.960 --> 1:55:16.400 the people who've been here? And we don't we deserve off? 1:55:17.080 --> 1:55:19.240 You know what I'm saying, Like like like and that's 1:55:19.280 --> 1:55:21.840 when we made our platform and you know, help me 1:55:22.040 --> 1:55:24.440 I'll talk to I was like, man, basically you know, 1:55:24.920 --> 1:55:27.320 he based Rock the Bells off of what Drink Chance 1:55:27.480 --> 1:55:29.760 was starting and respectful where that's my man, Like you 1:55:29.800 --> 1:55:33.200 know what I mean? But we felt obligated, like you 1:55:33.240 --> 1:55:35.240 know what I'm saying, like, and it's easier to talk 1:55:35.280 --> 1:55:37.600 to It's easier to talk to legend, not to this 1:55:38.040 --> 1:55:40.480 the new generation. But you know, when you're coming up, 1:55:40.520 --> 1:55:42.720 you're like, yo, man, so how was your day? They'd 1:55:42.720 --> 1:55:45.800 be like good, Like homeboy, I don't want to talk 1:55:45.800 --> 1:55:47.240 to you. Let's get the funk out of here, like 1:55:47.360 --> 1:55:50.720 like just just shot like like this is real grown 1:55:50.800 --> 1:55:54.040 up conversations. And the thing about it is, in every 1:55:54.120 --> 1:55:58.200 other genre, I've never heard the word washed up or 1:55:58.680 --> 1:56:02.160 over the hill. They don't say that in no genre, bro, 1:56:02.600 --> 1:56:04.960 only than us, And I gotta change that narrative. We 1:56:05.120 --> 1:56:08.800 gotta change that narrative us, all of us collectively, because 1:56:09.520 --> 1:56:12.160 anywhere else, even when you take your food home and 1:56:12.240 --> 1:56:14.600 you eat it the next day, it's called season. It 1:56:14.680 --> 1:56:17.680 ain't call washed up. You understand what I'm saying. So 1:56:18.160 --> 1:56:20.320 we wanted to change that trajectory. And I think we 1:56:20.480 --> 1:56:22.280 all you know what I'm saying. This is one of 1:56:22.320 --> 1:56:25.120 those times, man, we were really, really, really really proud 1:56:25.200 --> 1:56:27.520 to have a legend like you right alert in front 1:56:27.600 --> 1:56:30.360 of us and giving us the story. You ain't bullshitting us. 1:56:30.440 --> 1:56:34.920 It's not one time. Yeah, and we're gonna make so long, 1:56:34.920 --> 1:56:36.400 I got a couple more questions. We're gonna make some 1:56:36.440 --> 1:56:40.960 looking for you. I'm just gonna take an actual shot 1:56:41.080 --> 1:56:42.760 because I'm trying to get your sons drunk. I can't 1:56:42.800 --> 1:56:45.200 get you drunk, so I gotta, I gotta, I gotta 1:56:45.280 --> 1:56:48.520 technically poltically get you drunk. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:56:49.240 --> 1:56:52.880 I can see I can see you ain't playing. Yeah, 1:56:52.960 --> 1:56:57.880 absolutely absolutely. Before before we talked about the j enough 1:56:58.200 --> 1:57:03.360 in radio, right, what I wanted to act like if 1:57:03.440 --> 1:57:05.920 I was in high school? Right, I was in high 1:57:05.960 --> 1:57:12.800 school in two thousand one, Right, and in that time, Pop, 1:57:12.880 --> 1:57:18.120 you was on uh two times in the dead Old 1:57:18.160 --> 1:57:21.480 School Letting noon and five o'clock Free Rod. So when 1:57:21.560 --> 1:57:23.880 you was first talking about when this is something that 1:57:23.920 --> 1:57:25.760 I don't understood, that I didn't know you might have 1:57:25.880 --> 1:57:29.920 to be you might you might have to be careful. Look, 1:57:30.720 --> 1:57:35.680 it's gonna when when you was going when you was 1:57:35.760 --> 1:57:38.240 going back and forth with Molly Mall and them, right, 1:57:38.320 --> 1:57:41.520 you said you was on eleven and two at first 1:57:41.640 --> 1:57:44.000 year A. Right, So how was the transition from being 1:57:44.080 --> 1:57:47.200 eleven to two at w BLS to being to go 1:57:47.400 --> 1:57:52.640 into two slots on hot ninety seven per day, Old 1:57:52.680 --> 1:57:56.800 School at noon and five o'clock free rode because to me, 1:57:57.000 --> 1:57:58.920 I don't know, I don't I've never heard of it 1:57:59.720 --> 1:58:02.040 a day where DJ goes on twice a day on 1:58:02.160 --> 1:58:08.600 a daily kind of basis on like hip hop radio. Okay, Now, 1:58:09.160 --> 1:58:11.280 what I had a chance to do during the time 1:58:11.480 --> 1:58:15.480 that Kiss from first the first amount of time and 1:58:15.560 --> 1:58:18.200 Kiss FM was eleven jaiar straight and that was weekends. 1:58:18.720 --> 1:58:21.560 First it was just Saturday. Then I started having Friday 1:58:21.640 --> 1:58:24.880 and Saturday. When you were on late night from M 1:58:25.080 --> 1:58:28.080 nine to troll as they considered late night, I was 1:58:28.120 --> 1:58:31.040 being more edgy because I'm playing for a jungle audience. 1:58:31.280 --> 1:58:33.360 But at the same time, I had a chance to 1:58:33.440 --> 1:58:38.520 build up my name. Your name means a lot when 1:58:38.600 --> 1:58:42.640 it come across the airwaves. So now they're looking upon 1:58:43.000 --> 1:58:46.880 the audience that you had. Can you bring them to 1:58:47.120 --> 1:58:51.680 another station more prime time? Prime time is five o'clock 1:58:52.040 --> 1:58:54.120 is the second highest cuma of the day. The first 1:58:54.200 --> 1:58:57.520 highest cuman is the morning, the second highest is the 1:58:57.560 --> 1:59:01.440 afternoon drive. So that's why they created because they didn't 1:59:01.480 --> 1:59:05.640 have it before. They created the five o'clock freeback and 1:59:05.840 --> 1:59:13.840 you started that. Yes, you don't have a different times 1:59:15.000 --> 1:59:23.920 School doing the time. There was somebody else during the 1:59:23.960 --> 1:59:27.760 Old School at New yor Hot ninety seven um God 1:59:27.840 --> 1:59:30.920 named Glenn Fisher, but he was no more asked for 1:59:31.080 --> 1:59:36.040 like dance house music, so they weren't changed that because 1:59:36.160 --> 1:59:38.400 it was one day they had me do something. I 1:59:38.560 --> 1:59:41.320 forgot what day it was, and they heard the rovie 1:59:41.480 --> 1:59:46.040 to old School. I thank And that's when they had 1:59:46.080 --> 1:59:50.240 me in mind. Not before that. Remember, in the beginning 1:59:50.360 --> 1:59:52.880 of nineteen six in New York there was a big 1:59:53.760 --> 1:59:57.320 bad bliss. Okay, I just came home with ninety six. 1:59:57.480 --> 2:00:09.680 I was probably jugging off too much information. I'm sorry now. 2:00:09.880 --> 2:00:13.000 It was as the Blue say bad that when the 2:00:13.080 --> 2:00:16.480 women's couldn't come to the station because she comes from Jersey. 2:00:17.720 --> 2:00:20.320 So they asked me, can you come down and do 2:00:20.480 --> 2:00:26.320 that shift? So I did a whole shift, just mixing 2:00:27.280 --> 2:00:35.680 old school, William. I was combined during old school and 2:00:35.920 --> 2:00:41.080 new stuff. I was combined for that four hours. Here 2:00:41.160 --> 2:00:43.640 it is. They took care of me for that shift, 2:00:44.200 --> 2:00:45.840 and they say we want to appoint you to do 2:00:45.920 --> 2:00:48.120 the old School because we heard what you can do 2:00:48.800 --> 2:00:50.880 and we want to bring something to the table. So 2:00:51.040 --> 2:00:53.880 now here it is, I'm getting the audience that grew 2:00:53.920 --> 2:00:57.280 up with me from the Kiss at M and I'm 2:00:57.320 --> 2:00:59.480 appealing to the audience that are listening to me right 2:00:59.520 --> 2:01:03.120 now on the hot nineties seven, So I'm having both audience. 2:01:03.840 --> 2:01:05.960 There were some young people dash spent time listening to 2:01:06.080 --> 2:01:08.440 the Old School. Now you know why, because that's really 2:01:08.440 --> 2:01:13.440 they got a lot of their samples as he studied 2:01:13.440 --> 2:01:21.480 a lot whatever. I gotta bring some perspective to what 2:01:21.520 --> 2:01:23.280 he's saying, because I don't think we're really getting it 2:01:23.920 --> 2:01:27.760 what he's saying. He was playing vinyl man. Man, He 2:01:27.960 --> 2:01:30.160 wasn't just going on the computer and looking at what's 2:01:30.160 --> 2:01:32.400 the newest ship and it's the Old School and this 2:01:32.480 --> 2:01:35.600 is my playlist. He had to know his ship and 2:01:35.760 --> 2:01:38.680 physically take the records out and pick those records. So 2:01:38.800 --> 2:01:42.480 he was on top of his game. Please you know 2:01:42.560 --> 2:01:46.360 what it was like back then in the nineties. Fucking creates. 2:01:47.840 --> 2:01:49.800 Look at the way my back. Let me ask you, 2:01:50.040 --> 2:01:53.000 do you create the young homie used to carry my 2:01:53.040 --> 2:01:55.760 homie right there my records to the club. Do you 2:01:55.920 --> 2:02:01.040 like that? Creates is not not yeah, you like that crate? Vinyl? 2:02:02.480 --> 2:02:06.400 You still nobody likes Nobody likes the weight of vinyl. 2:02:06.560 --> 2:02:11.880 But but there was a different culture to vinyl. Vinyl. Now, 2:02:12.200 --> 2:02:14.600 I used to be doing a live stream show, like 2:02:14.800 --> 2:02:16.720 maybe ten eleven years ago, when they used to have 2:02:16.840 --> 2:02:19.400 you stream last stream. I had a show and I 2:02:19.520 --> 2:02:23.920 was doing it from home in my basement. Now the 2:02:24.840 --> 2:02:27.600 records out of playing, I know the value of them. 2:02:27.960 --> 2:02:33.360 They're not leaving my house. They're gonna get scratch, crack 2:02:33.840 --> 2:02:37.640 or missing. They stay right there. So it's a messing. 2:02:37.720 --> 2:02:41.160 I got the computer, right, I can keep on my 2:02:41.320 --> 2:02:43.280 value at home. Yeah, it was a blessing that he 2:02:43.360 --> 2:02:53.680 got the computer. For everybody's back this time. I was 2:02:53.800 --> 2:03:02.360 you you like and hit it that um person my 2:03:02.480 --> 2:03:05.120 coach to get into start using the computer with my 2:03:05.200 --> 2:03:10.720 cousin Jason because he used to be the spokesman for STOJ. 2:03:11.800 --> 2:03:17.280 Huh no, no, j cousin. So he got me inviold 2:03:17.360 --> 2:03:20.240 it and that's man. At the time, a lot of 2:03:20.280 --> 2:03:23.360 my peers are you're going down and know they were stilling. 2:03:23.560 --> 2:03:25.920 I said, listen here, you gotta adapt. Yeah, I don't 2:03:25.920 --> 2:03:28.120 think he still got a survival. No, I got tractive. 2:03:28.160 --> 2:03:30.440 I just don't use it like that. Listen. He wanted 2:03:30.560 --> 2:03:35.720 he still want Vinyl. He want wanted listen, listen. He 2:03:35.920 --> 2:03:40.080 old school. He wanted the crates to come back. No, no, no, no, listen. 2:03:40.160 --> 2:03:42.800 I told you I don't want to carry crates. We've 2:03:42.840 --> 2:03:45.880 been trying to ask you to DJ for twelve years. 2:03:46.720 --> 2:03:51.200 One it's not the same. So I came out. That 2:03:51.400 --> 2:03:55.800 was an art for him to going through vinyl. It was. 2:03:55.960 --> 2:03:59.200 It was almost its own right. It's good you knew. 2:03:59.400 --> 2:04:05.600 What do you mean days out? Your name is DJ. 2:04:06.400 --> 2:04:11.480 We haven't seen DJE twenty years. I don't need it. 2:04:11.560 --> 2:04:20.280 I don't we miss you, we miss you. I'll say, 2:04:20.920 --> 2:04:23.880 listen to him. You got a cell phone? Yeah, I 2:04:23.920 --> 2:04:28.000 got a cellphone. Why you have to pay booth? You 2:04:28.120 --> 2:04:33.560 adapt to the cell phone, adapt to the computer. M 2:04:34.760 --> 2:04:38.800 come like he was talking to you. I adapted some culture. 2:04:38.880 --> 2:04:44.280 We're here right now doing podcasting and this is my contributing, 2:04:45.680 --> 2:04:49.440 and I'm spending that. You asked it to the us own. 2:04:49.840 --> 2:04:52.240 It's just I'm just giving a person a lot of 2:04:52.640 --> 2:04:55.120 range of wide of you that you can always have 2:04:55.360 --> 2:04:58.080 that but not have the jungle of us different things. 2:04:58.160 --> 2:05:01.400 That's absolutely it's just shape to say. Yeah, you y'all 2:05:01.440 --> 2:05:03.440 both gonna agree with this. It's just safe to say 2:05:03.720 --> 2:05:08.160 because y'all. DJ. Right, it's just safe to say that 2:05:08.240 --> 2:05:11.080 the digital game got a lot of trash out there. 2:05:11.160 --> 2:05:16.360 Let's be clear, right, because you don't want nobody coming 2:05:16.400 --> 2:05:19.800 out to him and saying number it's a numbers games, 2:05:19.840 --> 2:05:22.600 the numbers game, because everybody has access, everybody could put 2:05:22.640 --> 2:05:25.200 out right. So because that numbers game, now you're sitting 2:05:25.200 --> 2:05:28.200 me with somebody who makes like two million dollars and 2:05:28.280 --> 2:05:30.320 he played three songs and there's a bunch of No, 2:05:30.400 --> 2:05:32.560 I'm not even worried about it. It's like the whole Yeah, 2:05:33.080 --> 2:05:35.280 so it's no shape that because they're gonna get their money. 2:05:35.320 --> 2:05:39.840 But the only thing that that hurt like confusion d 2:05:40.000 --> 2:05:44.880 J game with the computers. You don't see the skill 2:05:45.040 --> 2:05:47.480 level no more. The skill level was at the door. 2:05:48.760 --> 2:05:52.200 Now everybody's gotta cutting scratch for none. How to play 2:05:52.320 --> 2:05:55.720 a song accommodating one to another, you know, even you're mixing, 2:05:55.800 --> 2:05:58.880 blending or timing, no, whatever it is. Instead it just 2:05:59.480 --> 2:06:01.760 but a great DJ will be even better with the 2:06:01.800 --> 2:06:04.440 technolog Like my boy DJ Craze, who's from Home Team 2:06:04.520 --> 2:06:07.680 right here, killer Like he takes the technology to the 2:06:07.760 --> 2:06:11.880 next level right on vinyl. He's even sometimes I'll be 2:06:11.960 --> 2:06:14.960 having an ox cord. I'll be like, I think, but 2:06:15.160 --> 2:06:17.320 you're not a you're not a good DJ. Nor I'll 2:06:17.360 --> 2:06:22.360 be like like like I'm saying, but I'm not gett 2:06:22.360 --> 2:06:28.200 paying myself to y'all same s they do. I could 2:06:28.240 --> 2:06:30.760 do like the new DULs you do, like I can 2:06:30.840 --> 2:06:34.800 do that. That's what they do. Respect and I respect 2:06:34.840 --> 2:06:37.600 a lot of DJs out there, but I respect a 2:06:37.760 --> 2:06:40.920 DJ that none to work their computer and that the 2:06:41.160 --> 2:06:44.600 computer work you. Okay, let's let's let's run down a 2:06:44.760 --> 2:06:49.320 list of DJs that you you enjoy watching. Oh Man, 2:06:50.280 --> 2:06:54.760 my number one favorite, Jazz Jeff, one of the best, 2:06:54.840 --> 2:06:59.400 fresh friend Jazz. Yeah, one of the best. Yeah, real 2:06:59.600 --> 2:07:01.520 DJ to say that, A lot of people we look 2:07:01.560 --> 2:07:03.640 at him like fluff. A lot of people like, oh yeah, 2:07:03.680 --> 2:07:06.200 he's been on the fresh prints, so they don't realize 2:07:06.280 --> 2:07:10.000 he gets busy. He's the DJ, I know. But you 2:07:10.040 --> 2:07:11.160 know what I'm trying to say. You know, that was 2:07:11.240 --> 2:07:17.840 like a commercial show all the time. So smithy guy, guy, listen, curse, 2:07:18.440 --> 2:07:20.560 does you know what I mean? So people a lot 2:07:20.600 --> 2:07:23.440 of people don't know when you see DJ like red alert, 2:07:23.720 --> 2:07:25.920 Like I just asked him and that was his first 2:07:26.120 --> 2:07:30.520 DJ that he fired off. That's great, let's do that. 2:07:33.280 --> 2:07:35.240 I'm so how he robbed because the first time I 2:07:35.280 --> 2:07:37.880 got to see Jazz Jeff and DJ and Union Square 2:07:38.360 --> 2:07:40.880 and Fresh Princes and Jazz Jeff performed there for the 2:07:40.920 --> 2:07:42.920 first time, and that's what he came in and he 2:07:43.040 --> 2:07:45.000 was the skilled level he was doing, Like what that 2:07:45.720 --> 2:07:49.280 he's bad boy man? Was it Fresh Friends and Jazz Jeffer? 2:07:49.400 --> 2:07:51.360 Was it? Since we're talking about the d J, that's 2:07:51.600 --> 2:07:55.640 DJ j Jeff in the Fresh Prince DJ j J. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. First, 2:07:58.120 --> 2:08:00.160 just the way I confused the names. Did Jazz see 2:08:00.200 --> 2:08:04.160 Jeff get his name from jazz j Jesus how? I 2:08:04.200 --> 2:08:06.720 didn't think so. I don't think so. Honestly, I don't 2:08:06.760 --> 2:08:10.760 think so, because you gotta remember something smokes the country. 2:08:11.160 --> 2:08:16.440 There was a lot of jazzys at that time. We 2:08:16.560 --> 2:08:21.000 don't know every single town that had a jazz And remember, 2:08:21.040 --> 2:08:24.720 let's not forget Jazz Joyce as he joins a legend 2:08:24.760 --> 2:08:35.040 as well. Just he was a little a little fan 2:08:35.120 --> 2:08:39.080 of you. We've been little for a long time. Jazz 2:08:39.240 --> 2:08:42.000 Joyce get busy on that. Oh yeah, she's like, no, 2:08:42.200 --> 2:08:48.040 Jazz Joyce is the Elders also Coco Chanel, she died. Yeah, 2:08:48.240 --> 2:08:57.760 she's the name Joyce Anchs. So because you know we 2:08:57.920 --> 2:09:00.880 Latino over here too. You know what I'm saying, who's 2:09:01.240 --> 2:09:10.880 the first Latino you've seen doing hip hop? Invest in Peace? 2:09:11.560 --> 2:09:16.880 He DJ at the disco favorite named June Buck. He 2:09:17.040 --> 2:09:25.000 was the first laptein of the DJ. But let's people 2:09:25.040 --> 2:09:27.400 get mad at me. They think I hate the Minica's 2:09:27.440 --> 2:09:32.480 just me they have before, but yeah, no, no, no, 2:09:32.600 --> 2:09:36.240 it's just that's what I said last. I'm Cuban. We 2:09:36.800 --> 2:09:40.040 have a rivalry. We let's separate each other with media. 2:09:42.600 --> 2:09:48.200 He was same time Caribbean too, Yeah, Caribbean. But you know, 2:09:48.320 --> 2:09:50.080 Cuba is the biggest Cribian. I'm just want to put 2:09:50.080 --> 2:09:56.879 that out there. Everybody biggest Jamaican. Jamaican. I'm from Antigua, Antiga, Okay, figure'all. 2:09:58.680 --> 2:10:00.560 You know how the same every I got rice and 2:10:00.600 --> 2:10:04.160 beans and beans and rice. Yeah, planting and plantings. That's 2:10:04.160 --> 2:10:08.120 why you really know we're like everyone. The people like 2:10:08.600 --> 2:10:11.000 you go somewhere like, yeah, what's your national dish? Like 2:10:11.080 --> 2:10:15.280 for riga, Dot's not lose focus. Let's go back to 2:10:15.320 --> 2:10:21.400 the Latinos. Let's go so I know, I respect Charlie 2:10:21.520 --> 2:10:25.680 Chase ruby D. You know he was one of the 2:10:25.760 --> 2:10:28.520 members of ub D. You said Ruby ruby D one 2:10:28.560 --> 2:10:31.080 of the members of the Fantastic Five remembers you say, 2:10:31.160 --> 2:10:34.800 co question against past he was warning Fantastic Five. Um, 2:10:36.920 --> 2:10:39.640 I did not know him. I always heard about him 2:10:39.680 --> 2:10:42.280 and then I met him later on. Who was Rick 2:10:42.400 --> 2:10:47.000 cast and Disco Rich yea, yeah, I never't know him 2:10:47.080 --> 2:10:52.120 the very beginning. Um, I'm thinking everybody, because I was 2:10:52.240 --> 2:10:54.680 up in the Bronx all the time. I was always 2:10:54.760 --> 2:10:57.120 up in the box. I know. Down Harlem we had 2:10:57.200 --> 2:11:02.960 Tito and from Feeling Sport and O C who was 2:11:03.040 --> 2:11:07.960 the DJ for him Feelings sport Um. Not to be 2:11:08.040 --> 2:11:10.840 confused C from Digging in the Crates picking him up 2:11:10.840 --> 2:11:14.440 to Big o Se. It was a d J O C, 2:11:14.920 --> 2:11:18.040 not the one from Digging Crazy. You know. I'm trying 2:11:18.080 --> 2:11:21.160 to remember who else I can't recall, but now, but 2:11:21.320 --> 2:11:23.040 he used for us, I know, of course, you know 2:11:23.200 --> 2:11:26.480 Notating always been around and even the B Boys, there 2:11:26.560 --> 2:11:31.160 was a lot of people, huh crazy like before Rock Stay, 2:11:31.680 --> 2:11:36.320 the origin New B Boys do the names of Yeah 2:11:37.840 --> 2:11:40.520 there our timeline suck when he came here, you know, 2:11:40.680 --> 2:11:52.160 like fuck you your Timeline, Fuck you suck your hercle Field, 2:11:52.240 --> 2:11:54.360 That's what I was saying to him. A guy named 2:11:54.400 --> 2:11:59.640 rest in Peace, Mike my Man, Charlie, rock my Man, Trixie. 2:12:00.120 --> 2:12:02.160 And there was a guy who was who is the 2:12:02.200 --> 2:12:08.000 Latino named Sassa. Sounds like people was winning the battiest, 2:12:09.320 --> 2:12:13.680 winning the bad countless graffiti artists as well a graffiti 2:12:13.760 --> 2:12:17.560 artists as well. Oh yeah, that's a graffiti artists. Is 2:12:17.600 --> 2:12:22.040 that the I think that really start before hip hop coaching? Absolutely? 2:12:22.080 --> 2:12:25.320 Yea yeah. And after we talked about with a little bit, 2:12:25.440 --> 2:12:28.280 I'm about to ask you that is the five elements 2:12:28.400 --> 2:12:32.640 of hip hop? Does it doesn't really matter anymore? Hey man, 2:12:32.760 --> 2:12:34.640 I don't like the way that question was at. I 2:12:34.680 --> 2:12:40.040 don't know you don't, but let him answer to me 2:12:40.160 --> 2:12:42.440 and my Piers and the audience that came along with us. 2:12:42.480 --> 2:12:47.920 It matters to us a great deal, a great great 2:12:48.520 --> 2:12:51.600 that's fun, you know, or even made a shirt about it. 2:12:51.680 --> 2:12:53.200 You look at your shirt that that we gave you 2:12:54.280 --> 2:12:58.840 the five elements. Give me the bottle opening up someone 2:12:58.880 --> 2:13:06.040 with the circle. It ain't going d J B Boys MC. Yeah, 2:13:06.440 --> 2:13:08.840 so you think it's supposed to say it's full? And 2:13:08.920 --> 2:13:17.160 then also be Box. Some people say no, father was yeah, 2:13:17.440 --> 2:13:20.360 and some people just say former Russian but that's a 2:13:20.560 --> 2:13:24.680 b Rocks. What do you think about fashion? Fashion big 2:13:24.760 --> 2:13:28.320 part in hip hop, big part of hip hop because 2:13:28.560 --> 2:13:31.600 you see used to the spikes. No, that was that 2:13:31.720 --> 2:13:35.400 new way punk rocks. You ain't fo this white. You 2:13:35.440 --> 2:13:39.240 ain't had the reason I'm asking because you're gonna pull 2:13:39.280 --> 2:13:46.480 up a picture you don't, We're gonna go. We're gonna 2:13:46.480 --> 2:13:52.840 go look for it. We got something you want. No, no, no, no, 2:13:53.040 --> 2:13:55.400 no no. I had a rob a couple of years ago. 2:13:55.440 --> 2:13:58.760 I said, Lubaton with the spikes just for weirdos. I'm 2:13:58.800 --> 2:14:06.160 a hood widows and started wearing them. No, really, when 2:14:06.160 --> 2:14:08.680 you want to go with this man, I want Lott 2:14:08.720 --> 2:14:10.560 with tars. I didn't read the ones with the spikes, 2:14:11.080 --> 2:14:13.360 and there was so many people hit me like you 2:14:13.480 --> 2:14:16.760 can't dis spikes, and I was like, why at the 2:14:16.800 --> 2:14:20.880 bottom of the shoes, Yeah, I don't poke with those spikes. 2:14:21.000 --> 2:14:22.880 So but but when I said that, I didn't on 2:14:22.960 --> 2:14:25.160 the record with Lars pro Bro my first record I 2:14:25.240 --> 2:14:28.240 ever recorded with Lars Bro, and so many fans was like, 2:14:28.320 --> 2:14:30.800 but you can't di spikes like you just a little 2:14:30.920 --> 2:14:33.839 Tar Spikes, but you can't say Spikes is for widows. 2:14:33.880 --> 2:14:35.640 And I was like, why they sent me so much 2:14:37.720 --> 2:14:44.760 original when I was just like had mentioned the the 2:14:44.880 --> 2:14:48.120 parallels with punk and hip hop in the early beginnings 2:14:48.920 --> 2:14:51.440 and why there was like they looked the same at 2:14:51.480 --> 2:14:53.760 the time and there was in the same venues. It 2:14:53.960 --> 2:14:58.760 was a level situation at the time because culture counterculture. 2:14:58.800 --> 2:15:02.120 Yeah it is hip hop coming from up in the 2:15:02.200 --> 2:15:07.040 Bronx coming downtown, Punk rock and new waves, you know, 2:15:07.760 --> 2:15:10.840 was all emerging at the time, and we always got 2:15:10.880 --> 2:15:13.400 together at certain clubs. First was in the Grills, then 2:15:13.520 --> 2:15:16.600 Dance Interia, and it was like you got to learn 2:15:16.800 --> 2:15:18.200 some of their coaches, you got to learn some of 2:15:18.280 --> 2:15:22.560 our culture. The grill placed for the Grills that was 2:15:22.600 --> 2:15:25.960 on the second avenue was Jamaican. Uh. I think more 2:15:26.080 --> 2:15:34.680 like yeah, yeah, continue from them to Danceteria. Actually, while 2:15:34.720 --> 2:15:37.600 we was cutting up records like once in a Lifetime 2:15:37.680 --> 2:15:42.400 by Talking Heads and Liquid Liquid and you know, we're 2:15:42.400 --> 2:15:46.720 playing stuff like um something about UM coming down the 2:15:46.800 --> 2:15:49.400 house and all that stuff, and they got the line 2:15:49.440 --> 2:15:52.720 our stuff. So we was none how to support each other. 2:15:53.920 --> 2:15:56.560 We all have to look at them where we like 2:15:56.680 --> 2:15:59.680 their music and they're like our music. That's what it was. 2:16:00.000 --> 2:16:01.680 Because if you would have wore spikes and I would 2:16:01.680 --> 2:16:09.440 have found out you got the picture. Go you talk 2:16:09.480 --> 2:16:11.840 about that because I know how you know the error 2:16:12.320 --> 2:16:14.760 I grew up in the Oh you got de fitted 2:16:14.840 --> 2:16:22.760 jeans going back. Yeah, it's like they got me like that. 2:16:26.520 --> 2:16:32.720 Just the rivalry with the now now I know during 2:16:32.760 --> 2:16:36.080 the time, like the felish fire, the cold crushed the 2:16:36.160 --> 2:16:40.320 feather day was looking up to the people's like changing 2:16:40.360 --> 2:16:44.080 them at this right and like you know anything that 2:16:44.920 --> 2:16:50.080 George Clinton, they following that. You know they was doing 2:16:50.160 --> 2:16:54.280 that every day. No, it was coking everywhere, not before 2:16:54.400 --> 2:17:00.160 that or Angel does Angel does everywhere? I mean don't 2:17:00.160 --> 2:17:05.320 know about everywhere a man now before that. Here it 2:17:05.520 --> 2:17:08.200 is the groups I just mentioned. They used to come dressing, 2:17:08.240 --> 2:17:11.200 looking at the temptations and doing steps and everything. So 2:17:11.400 --> 2:17:13.840 there was far too different way. They was both looks. 2:17:15.120 --> 2:17:17.120 All three of them who I just mentioned used to 2:17:17.200 --> 2:17:20.760 come with the suits on. You should come doing steps, 2:17:21.080 --> 2:17:24.160 dancing and all that. Now here it is for us 2:17:24.320 --> 2:17:26.520 that re class of looking flyer the trump. At the 2:17:26.560 --> 2:17:28.480 time I was going to all the hip hop friends. 2:17:29.000 --> 2:17:33.600 We was ran in what they called Gabardine material pants 2:17:34.080 --> 2:17:37.240 with the over flaps. We had the turn next to 2:17:37.280 --> 2:17:40.359 the market. Next we had the um, the level fronts, 2:17:40.840 --> 2:17:44.000 we had the Italian Knicks. The shoes we wore was 2:17:44.040 --> 2:17:48.560 even playboys or British walkers, you know, if it was 2:17:48.640 --> 2:17:51.840 real flyer you are up pair of gams. You know. Um. 2:17:53.720 --> 2:17:59.640 The coat we had was quarter Fields. That's what we 2:17:59.800 --> 2:18:04.280 were rocking at that time. I gotta make some noise 2:18:04.320 --> 2:18:15.080 of that. What's that for? So when does Dapper Dan 2:18:15.200 --> 2:18:18.960 come into play? Ye, Dapper Dan came in I think 2:18:19.000 --> 2:18:22.880 about early eighties, but start to emerge more into the 2:18:23.000 --> 2:18:25.960 late eighties and you've got shirt Kings, you got shirt Kings, 2:18:26.040 --> 2:18:32.560 Short Kings goes out there and Ja Jamaica Yeah yeah, 2:18:32.760 --> 2:18:38.680 and then was doing their thing in the same Let 2:18:38.720 --> 2:18:41.240 me ask you, right, I love the everything you just said, 2:18:41.920 --> 2:18:44.440 but I want to ask you when we look at 2:18:44.480 --> 2:18:50.080 the old drug Dealer movies paid the falls, we look 2:18:50.160 --> 2:18:53.880 how much it seemed like if the DJ shot at 2:18:53.959 --> 2:19:05.520 you out in the club, you was different. Yeah yeah, 2:19:05.600 --> 2:19:10.160 little payola for that too. Let's stand up, guys, not 2:19:10.360 --> 2:19:15.160 really not really need to understand. Shot my name. I 2:19:15.280 --> 2:19:18.520 shot my name out and they know you're taking that's 2:19:18.560 --> 2:19:22.760 why you're shotting the name out. So now how much 2:19:22.760 --> 2:19:29.040 would that take? And you can get big money for that? 2:19:30.480 --> 2:19:32.640 We got a segue here. How important what he's saying 2:19:32.720 --> 2:19:36.640 right now? So you are the beginnings at least one 2:19:36.680 --> 2:19:39.240 of the partiers of mixed tapes. No, I'm not willing 2:19:39.280 --> 2:19:42.160 to be not in the beginning. Who I'll give respect 2:19:42.240 --> 2:19:47.360 to Brucy be absolutely Now how they that to me 2:19:47.480 --> 2:19:52.240 about mixtape? Because once I got on the radio, everybody 2:19:52.320 --> 2:19:54.320 you said, yo, let me get that mix from last night. 2:19:54.720 --> 2:19:57.480 I was already sententation from water jam. Remember you always 2:19:57.520 --> 2:20:03.279 asking about from every saying how is known for being recorded? 2:20:03.320 --> 2:20:07.320 All the parties mass up in the brunch. I'm down harm, 2:20:08.360 --> 2:20:11.240 I'm selling tapes. I'm making copies and selling tapes. You 2:20:11.280 --> 2:20:16.120 went platinum. Let's just talk about it. This is audio only, right, Yeah, 2:20:16.240 --> 2:20:21.200 this is original mixtapes audio. You basically created the podcast. 2:20:22.240 --> 2:20:26.280 Well it's audio. You're fast forwarding right now, just like 2:20:26.640 --> 2:20:39.680 me to your what I made great money offer that 2:20:39.760 --> 2:20:42.880 coumo deep busy, be busy, be more. Now this is 2:20:42.920 --> 2:20:45.760 the legendary that is legend. I was there that day. Wait, 2:20:45.840 --> 2:20:48.040 so you're the one that put that out there. No, 2:20:48.360 --> 2:20:50.879 it was me and the DJ Vandy Rest in peace 2:20:51.320 --> 2:20:53.600 because what happened. I was just leaving from up in 2:20:53.640 --> 2:20:55.680 the Bronx, and I mean I got off on the 2:20:56.120 --> 2:20:58.680 right around my way HR Sixting Street, come out harmon Worlds. 2:20:58.800 --> 2:21:01.520 Right there, I saw there was a big crowd and 2:21:01.600 --> 2:21:05.280 there was an MC convention, as it was an MC convention. 2:21:05.440 --> 2:21:08.280 I always know for carrying my tap and MC convention, 2:21:08.400 --> 2:21:11.279 what does that mean? Exactly? At that point MC convention 2:21:11.800 --> 2:21:17.320 where it was also a contest, the battle basically battle 2:21:17.720 --> 2:21:19.960 and there was so many people that was battling. So 2:21:20.120 --> 2:21:22.080 now here it is, I'm walking with my tape deck. 2:21:22.680 --> 2:21:24.920 As I'm walking with my tape deck, I went to 2:21:25.160 --> 2:21:28.560 the to the section where the equipment and my man, 2:21:29.000 --> 2:21:31.600 I forgot his name. I said, yo, man, can I 2:21:31.680 --> 2:21:33.480 hook it up? He let me hook it up. So 2:21:34.600 --> 2:21:38.200 the house school mod have on the big glasses. Yeah no, no, no, 2:21:38.320 --> 2:21:40.600 he ain't a big glasses't have a big glasses. Can 2:21:40.680 --> 2:21:46.840 sell you the story into it. So let me look 2:21:46.879 --> 2:21:48.440 at my tape deck. Along with the tape deck that 2:21:48.560 --> 2:21:52.400 was and I recorded that. I recorded that, but I 2:21:52.560 --> 2:21:57.400 was always duplicated that And then you really sat, but 2:21:57.720 --> 2:22:00.920 we're gonna talking about the what happens this battle it's 2:22:01.000 --> 2:22:07.279 Busy Be. So it really was MC Battle Contest convention, 2:22:07.920 --> 2:22:10.560 it was, but it was all about again. So Modi 2:22:10.840 --> 2:22:14.280 was the host for that, but he decided to come 2:22:14.440 --> 2:22:17.360 in at the last minute, signed up to go after Busy. 2:22:17.440 --> 2:22:20.960 We called Busy Be was known for winning or the 2:22:21.120 --> 2:22:23.879 contest and Busy Be from the Bronx, mold from halland 2:22:23.959 --> 2:22:27.320 Wild Wild West. He made the record. It's documented, right 2:22:28.600 --> 2:22:31.680 they go at it. This is a moment that shifted 2:22:31.760 --> 2:22:35.119 hip hop. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely talk. 2:22:35.400 --> 2:22:37.400 You said you're there. What did you see when you 2:22:37.520 --> 2:22:40.879 was there? Man? When I saw that, Modi got up 2:22:40.920 --> 2:22:43.160 there and he started seeing them lyrics and all I 2:22:43.200 --> 2:22:44.960 can do is having my mouth for mind, like, oh 2:22:45.120 --> 2:22:48.960 ship because its number one. You didn't expect for him 2:22:49.000 --> 2:22:51.040 to be in the contest number two. You ship. He's saying, 2:22:51.080 --> 2:22:54.440 you never heard before you'd be like, what the So 2:22:54.520 --> 2:22:58.920 we're saying, mold one that Yeah, clearly you didn't listen 2:22:58.959 --> 2:23:04.480 to the change just because I'll be Let's go to 2:23:04.560 --> 2:23:08.280 the video chap, Let's go to the audio jape. Think 2:23:08.320 --> 2:23:11.039 about it. We'll play Let's go back to the table. 2:23:11.480 --> 2:23:15.720 We're going back to the tape and Monkey and Busy 2:23:15.840 --> 2:23:19.120 is good. They're good friends, good friends. You know. Business 2:23:19.120 --> 2:23:22.840 a legend. Yeah, business, that's my that's what my doing. 2:23:22.959 --> 2:23:27.199 But they helped me history because you think more about 2:23:28.360 --> 2:23:32.080 them too. Beside the whole entire battle. You know who's 2:23:32.120 --> 2:23:35.240 Rustle was in that that contest. A lot of people 2:23:35.240 --> 2:23:38.560 don't know he from down in Atlanta. He's known for 2:23:38.640 --> 2:23:45.160 being on radio in Atlanta. Remember Frank Ski V one 2:23:45.200 --> 2:23:50.040 on three. Frank Ski, he was the morning guy for 2:23:50.280 --> 2:23:53.600 V one on three. He was he was up there 2:23:53.720 --> 2:23:57.400 because you have family in Harlem. And he go ahead 2:23:57.680 --> 2:23:59.640 and got him there and wrapped. He was wrapping up 2:23:59.640 --> 2:24:10.359 the inst mental Mama used to say, Jesus, So imagine 2:24:10.400 --> 2:24:15.840 me go ahead making my hustle selling tapes. So by 2:24:15.920 --> 2:24:19.360 the time now when I get to doing radio, they 2:24:19.400 --> 2:24:21.720 don't want the party tapes. They say, yo, man, that 2:24:21.879 --> 2:24:23.680 joint what you did last night, You know, man, I 2:24:23.720 --> 2:24:26.080 want to copy of that. So what I used to 2:24:26.200 --> 2:24:30.199 do every time, because I was pre recording, I would 2:24:30.200 --> 2:24:35.640 always keep my master and make copies. So anybody heard 2:24:35.760 --> 2:24:39.320 something that night, the next day you got that tape. 2:24:40.280 --> 2:24:46.440 Mm hmm. Business. But then you started recording, I mean 2:24:46.480 --> 2:24:50.200 putting out your mixes from the radio as mix tapes. Yes, 2:24:51.120 --> 2:24:55.680 UM tell you the mixtape not not well, I'm just 2:24:55.720 --> 2:24:57.920 saying this, Okay, let me just in the street in 2:24:58.040 --> 2:25:03.240 street level, I would say a brucy b start see 2:25:03.240 --> 2:25:06.200 you guys, huh in New York. I'm talking from a 2:25:06.240 --> 2:25:09.920 guy from Miami that tapes are trickling down to us. 2:25:10.160 --> 2:25:12.480 That's why they were looking at us, looking at me. 2:25:12.920 --> 2:25:15.800 I don't know with Molly and Chuck, because people will 2:25:15.840 --> 2:25:18.920 recording us after radio just to stop you one second, 2:25:18.959 --> 2:25:22.480 just to give you your homage. And I'm appreciate getting 2:25:22.520 --> 2:25:26.120 to us is red alert tapes and kicking pre tapes 2:25:26.760 --> 2:25:30.400 in Miami, and then I become a mixtape DJ based 2:25:30.440 --> 2:25:40.880 on that that you're trying to me. I'm just honestly 2:25:41.080 --> 2:25:44.280 giving you what the blueprint. And then we learned about 2:25:44.320 --> 2:25:48.240 Brucey B and everybody through you guys, and we have 2:25:48.400 --> 2:25:50.120 to do our do and we have to dig in 2:25:50.160 --> 2:25:53.400 the crates and figure out what's the history. Yeah, you 2:25:53.440 --> 2:25:55.800 guys are the first people coming to us. Yeah, because 2:25:55.879 --> 2:25:58.320 you don't mention these guys, they're getting missing absolutely, you know. 2:25:58.720 --> 2:26:02.360 And there was other people side brucy and and start 2:26:02.440 --> 2:26:06.879 out you have my man, DJ Hollywood, you have scheme. 2:26:07.320 --> 2:26:11.080 I mean, listens moments on so many of them, so 2:26:11.200 --> 2:26:13.360 many of them. That's still one of my favorite songs 2:26:13.400 --> 2:26:16.039 to this day. Who Dang, Who Dan? I don't want 2:26:16.080 --> 2:26:19.360 to go during the night with my honey. Gave me 2:26:19.480 --> 2:26:24.440 something that young boy go to bed. I a lot that. 2:26:25.320 --> 2:26:27.039 When I heard that, I was like, what the fun 2:26:27.240 --> 2:26:30.960 is going on? I really know what it was. And 2:26:31.240 --> 2:26:33.400 I see like a pictured like the person who they 2:26:33.400 --> 2:26:35.520 said sunk it and he had the suit on, and 2:26:35.600 --> 2:26:37.640 I was like, I ain't never seen that. Like, I 2:26:37.760 --> 2:26:41.560 was like, what we dressed up? I was so hood 2:26:41.600 --> 2:26:43.960 at that time, fresh man he was at It was 2:26:44.080 --> 2:26:48.320 more for like the growning sexy in that element over there. 2:26:48.720 --> 2:26:50.760 So that's we much more on the street, That's what 2:26:50.959 --> 2:26:54.360 that's that's what Cass said over Well, that's something again 2:26:55.200 --> 2:26:58.360 if you if you google that record when it came out, 2:26:58.400 --> 2:27:01.200 I had to be like eight or nine. Well I 2:27:01.320 --> 2:27:05.400 didn't know. People said that they considered that commercial and 2:27:05.480 --> 2:27:09.240 I was like, well, like what was commercial about that? 2:27:09.360 --> 2:27:11.520 And compared to what they were doing, compared to what 2:27:11.680 --> 2:27:16.240 they were doing, so um, I didn't know, so what 2:27:17.320 --> 2:27:20.520 I think that you could probably rather soon as did this. 2:27:20.840 --> 2:27:23.880 But what was the difference? What did you want to 2:27:24.160 --> 2:27:26.320 did you care about being on the commercial side like 2:27:26.760 --> 2:27:30.400 or did you say you know it didn't matter. You 2:27:30.480 --> 2:27:32.720 just wanted to push hip hop forward? Like what what 2:27:32.840 --> 2:27:36.360 side do you you think? I'm gone to take advantage 2:27:36.400 --> 2:27:38.640 of the commercial side with the elements of where I 2:27:38.760 --> 2:27:41.000 come from on the hip hop. I wanted to go 2:27:41.160 --> 2:27:44.760 ahead and bring that over here. Let people know that 2:27:45.240 --> 2:27:47.520 this is what we've been doing over here, and let 2:27:47.560 --> 2:27:50.320 me present it to you and I can go ahead 2:27:50.360 --> 2:27:52.560 and program right along with everything else that you are 2:27:52.680 --> 2:27:55.360 like not understand with you. You know, I'm gonna give 2:27:55.400 --> 2:27:58.040 you your R and B. I'm gonna give you a dance. 2:27:58.640 --> 2:28:02.000 I'm gonna give you some what we've been doing. Mix 2:28:02.080 --> 2:28:05.640 it all to Jael and everybody get that variety. That's 2:28:05.680 --> 2:28:15.000 what that did got them and you've been credited with 2:28:15.160 --> 2:28:17.760 bringing reggae and dance all to the radio waves as 2:28:17.840 --> 2:28:22.240 well in the States. Respect on that um. But it 2:28:22.280 --> 2:28:24.440 influenced me once again, the dope jam to I just 2:28:24.560 --> 2:28:28.480 told you about when we was coming out. No, no, 2:28:28.720 --> 2:28:32.800 I'm the hype man to KOs one book production. Everybody 2:28:32.840 --> 2:28:34.440 knew I was the DJ, but that was the Nice. 2:28:35.120 --> 2:28:37.480 So every time we came out, we came to hold On. 2:28:37.560 --> 2:28:42.640 You just said that way too fast. Again again, I said, 2:28:42.959 --> 2:28:45.400 everybody thought I would have been the DJ in place 2:28:45.440 --> 2:28:47.400 of Scott the Rock. I'm gonna add that, mate, dear, 2:28:48.240 --> 2:28:50.520 But it was d Nice that was the DJ while 2:28:50.560 --> 2:28:55.080 I was the hype man for KOs one one stage History, 2:28:55.240 --> 2:29:14.040 So you was splip star, that's fine, that's wine. While 2:29:14.160 --> 2:29:16.000 he was coming out. He was coming out to the 2:29:16.120 --> 2:29:21.560 instrument version of Telephone Love by J. C. Longe. So 2:29:21.840 --> 2:29:24.320 when I saw the response every time we came out 2:29:24.360 --> 2:29:27.480 to that, and we always ended out with the album 2:29:27.680 --> 2:29:30.199 version of Stop the Valance that was on the album 2:29:30.840 --> 2:29:35.080 and that also got Caribbean influence, it gave me an 2:29:35.120 --> 2:29:37.760 idea when I got back to the station to started 2:29:37.800 --> 2:29:43.240 playing some dance Harvekings. So the first ten fifteen minutes 2:29:43.280 --> 2:29:45.640 I played some dance hall because there were some people 2:29:45.680 --> 2:29:49.720 that have made dance havankas like Um special Ed on 2:29:49.920 --> 2:29:54.080 his choice album, UM drove yourself on the other's album No. 2:29:54.680 --> 2:29:58.080 So then extended and stand down. I started ring supercat 2:29:58.160 --> 2:30:03.040 type ship that's start getting the Beanie Man and Shabu Shot. 2:30:04.560 --> 2:30:07.520 You know, I mean this is no and you know 2:30:07.800 --> 2:30:11.640 I made it one hour out of my show. And 2:30:11.760 --> 2:30:13.680 before you know that, you let me have an album 2:30:13.760 --> 2:30:19.279 out called prop Master Dance on Little Virus, Little Vicius 2:30:19.360 --> 2:30:24.880 is on. That was dope record. Man. That was like, 2:30:25.120 --> 2:30:28.920 that's a class, that's my guy. Yeah, can I as 2:30:29.280 --> 2:30:34.560 absolutely all right? So we didn't mention this, but I 2:30:34.640 --> 2:30:37.520 happened to know that you are in your forty fifth 2:30:37.680 --> 2:30:43.599 year of DJAN. Right, is that on radio or just djero? 2:30:44.320 --> 2:30:48.520 That's all together. I started on radio eight three, but 2:30:48.600 --> 2:30:51.680 I started DJAN in seventy six, So so how long 2:30:51.720 --> 2:30:54.879 have you been on radio? Next month could be thirty 2:30:54.920 --> 2:30:58.600 eight years? Incredible, man. I don't do as many people 2:31:04.920 --> 2:31:07.279 of the forty five because I know some people get confused. 2:31:07.560 --> 2:31:10.280 All right, So I have I wanted to do this 2:31:10.400 --> 2:31:12.680 on this day I have it. Is it a true question? Right? 2:31:12.879 --> 2:31:15.240 I gotta go to the barroom. That's a part of 2:31:15.280 --> 2:31:21.320 the show. Is it Is it true that you're on 2:31:21.560 --> 2:31:24.720 the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? What it is? 2:31:24.800 --> 2:31:28.279 They have a display on me in the radio section 2:31:28.600 --> 2:31:31.480 of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, including on 2:31:31.680 --> 2:31:36.160 Hags and it's an honor because I'm right along with 2:31:36.280 --> 2:31:39.120 some of the great DJ's from radio in the past, 2:31:39.240 --> 2:31:45.760 like Gyne, Alan Freed, Wolfman, check Um, Frankie Crocker. I 2:31:45.840 --> 2:31:50.360 mean so many people. So you know you in that category, dumb. 2:31:50.440 --> 2:31:53.400 It's an honor battle so you know, solidified in the 2:31:53.520 --> 2:31:56.880 history of our country as well. Right, that's what that is. 2:31:56.959 --> 2:31:59.680 So I've got another institute, one more, one more, all right, 2:31:59.720 --> 2:32:01.240 So when I do my homework on you, when I 2:32:01.320 --> 2:32:05.080 do my homework, it's a time where you mentioned like 2:32:05.240 --> 2:32:11.240 Rob Base, we talked about the movie Juice, you know, 2:32:11.480 --> 2:32:13.400 from my like my age group. You know, we know 2:32:13.560 --> 2:32:15.520 Kalid and we know a bunch of DJs now that 2:32:15.640 --> 2:32:18.600 we see on the face value on TV and stuff. 2:32:19.000 --> 2:32:20.840 But when I look at those errors, even up to 2:32:21.000 --> 2:32:26.560 like even ludicrous throw them bowls. You were like highly 2:32:26.680 --> 2:32:29.879 featured in a lot of hip hop videos, and at 2:32:29.920 --> 2:32:33.560 that time, I didn't really know if that was like common, 2:32:33.720 --> 2:32:35.200 you know what I mean. It's there was a point 2:32:35.240 --> 2:32:36.959 where I think I saw that. I heard I think 2:32:37.000 --> 2:32:43.039 he's the most the most featured cameo in a video video. Yeah, yeah, 2:32:43.120 --> 2:32:46.240 I saw that. I read that. I read and I 2:32:46.320 --> 2:32:48.640 thought about it. I was like, well, if I look 2:32:48.680 --> 2:32:52.160 at the videos that I've seen, then he showed that 2:32:52.400 --> 2:32:56.760 he was showing finish your question? Sorry is this? Was 2:32:56.800 --> 2:32:58.960 there anybody else doing this? Was this a tactic? Like? 2:32:59.080 --> 2:33:01.560 What did you realize he was doing that? I did 2:33:01.640 --> 2:33:06.480 it for a reason. A long time ago, before the 2:33:06.640 --> 2:33:11.480 visual took off, there was a lot of people impostus 2:33:13.080 --> 2:33:16.800 try to impersonate who they are to make their money. 2:33:17.000 --> 2:33:18.920 You know, you get the fake this faith that. So 2:33:19.200 --> 2:33:21.920 when Spaking and I once again we dine in Kentucky 2:33:22.920 --> 2:33:25.680 and um just back like mid eighties r in Kentucky 2:33:26.560 --> 2:33:29.600 and this guy he's gonna brag you know that his 2:33:29.760 --> 2:33:32.080 name dropping. Well, you know I met this person. I 2:33:32.160 --> 2:33:35.120 met that person. He mentioned my name. So he mentioned 2:33:35.160 --> 2:33:39.160 my name me sparking and look at each other, I 2:33:39.240 --> 2:33:41.640 mean saying nothing. The cup quiet. Right before we get 2:33:41.959 --> 2:33:46.440 go on the stage, Sparky tap him and say, oh, 2:33:46.520 --> 2:33:49.360 by the way, that's better. Look he looked at me. 2:33:49.440 --> 2:33:54.240 He was shocky ran out. I say, okay, so even 2:33:54.400 --> 2:33:57.600 that you dragging that you said you met everybody or 2:33:57.640 --> 2:34:01.560 there's somebody go around and say they meet. So when 2:34:01.600 --> 2:34:03.320 I saw that, I had the opportunity to do the 2:34:03.400 --> 2:34:06.760 first video I forgot the first video every did. They 2:34:06.800 --> 2:34:09.440 asked me to be in it. Now, I said, okay, cool, 2:34:09.440 --> 2:34:12.520 I'll be in it. When I saw the response that 2:34:12.680 --> 2:34:14.760 had everybody noticed me, I said, you know what, I'm 2:34:14.760 --> 2:34:17.840 gonna capitalize all for them. Let me brand myself and 2:34:17.959 --> 2:34:20.760 promote myself so people know who I really be side 2:34:20.879 --> 2:34:23.840 somebody else scored fak and say who they are. So 2:34:24.160 --> 2:34:31.120 I took advantage of that. That's did I did. I 2:34:31.200 --> 2:34:36.080 say a suggestion, please y'all make a father in some podcasts. 2:34:38.920 --> 2:34:42.960 So it's really interesting. We have we we originally we 2:34:43.280 --> 2:34:49.240 created uh representation of our dynamic called the Full Connection. 2:34:49.959 --> 2:34:53.400 Um it started. I wouldn't say we really took in, 2:34:53.600 --> 2:34:57.000 we really got down with it? What after lighting past 2:34:57.160 --> 2:35:00.200 we did? We was right around that time the hip pub. 2:35:00.440 --> 2:35:02.600 Sometimes I'll be drunk. I can't remember everything. It was 2:35:02.680 --> 2:35:06.600 like it was like you can't shot drink drink Champs 2:35:06.720 --> 2:35:12.720 not posted started and does you want the poomboo juice 2:35:13.680 --> 2:35:18.920 boo poopoo. I'm sorry, poooo juice, Scott got juice poop 2:35:18.920 --> 2:35:23.240 poo juice. I'm just lexing, give me, give me a break, 2:35:23.760 --> 2:35:30.280 give me your side. It's got great I'm sorry, but 2:35:30.360 --> 2:35:32.880 the pool bo juice. It's like grand games say you 2:35:32.879 --> 2:35:37.640 don't say sorry. Yeah, because normally when people asking what's 2:35:37.680 --> 2:35:39.160 in the poopo juice, he used to say, if I 2:35:39.240 --> 2:35:42.560 tell you that, I gotta get you can kill him 2:35:43.200 --> 2:35:45.960 drink boo, he got me drunk. A nice seem like 2:35:46.000 --> 2:35:50.360 come here nor ship. Yeah, so you guys thought about 2:35:50.360 --> 2:35:52.800 doing the podcast. So that's not necessarily a podcast, but 2:35:52.920 --> 2:35:55.000 we kind of just used it as a representation of 2:35:55.080 --> 2:35:58.480 our dynamic. I think this would be a great podcast 2:35:58.879 --> 2:36:01.680 him it is that my idea of bringing to them 2:36:01.720 --> 2:36:05.640 about the cool connection, because they should get confused here. 2:36:05.720 --> 2:36:08.680 It is. They come to him and say, yeah, I 2:36:08.720 --> 2:36:10.440 don't remember you should be on the wady You say no, 2:36:10.640 --> 2:36:16.960 that's not me. A lot they're come to him and say, yo, man, 2:36:16.959 --> 2:36:19.240 I make your make you say that's not me. So 2:36:19.360 --> 2:36:21.880 I said, that's through the cool connection me as pops 2:36:22.320 --> 2:36:27.320 and everybody shows who they are as an individual. Didn't 2:36:27.360 --> 2:36:29.480 like that. I like that. I'm taking a shot to 2:36:29.560 --> 2:36:33.760 that's taking off. Although there you already poured off what 2:36:33.800 --> 2:36:37.280 the I thought you was hitting my boomp boom juice 2:36:37.320 --> 2:36:41.520 together boom boom. Wait, hold on before we drink the shot. Dude. 2:36:41.520 --> 2:36:43.160 I always wanted to know what the hell was in 2:36:43.240 --> 2:36:51.920 that bottlem episode. Isn't that bottle that? I don't think? No, 2:36:53.120 --> 2:36:56.920 I don't. That's about It's not. I don't get any 2:36:57.280 --> 2:36:59.879 kind of like taking ball Manny get talking to talk. 2:37:00.000 --> 2:37:02.720 A bone that snaps, it's just the Manican tiger bone 2:37:03.200 --> 2:37:06.200 that that is not that. You can do good and 2:37:06.360 --> 2:37:12.160 you can get drunk Dominican. You spin it on, maybe 2:37:12.200 --> 2:37:15.800 come a zone Dominican. Dominican is not donicanger bone. This 2:37:15.959 --> 2:37:20.480 is Dominican bo. You're already drunk. The shap you're gonna pass. 2:37:20.800 --> 2:37:24.800 I thought I thought you check you up. Dominican bone. 2:37:25.160 --> 2:37:28.520 It's not the same thing. Dominican Dominican. It's Dominican tiger bone. 2:37:28.879 --> 2:37:30.480 It's not yeah it is. It's yeah. I don't that 2:37:30.560 --> 2:37:34.040 you get away with this. Yeah, you want real tyger bone. No, 2:37:34.160 --> 2:37:37.720 I don't want that. Exactly what is until it's herbs 2:37:37.760 --> 2:37:40.920 and trees fermented till it. It's gonna take you to 2:37:40.959 --> 2:37:43.920 another planet. Should that's gonna make you work out right after? 2:37:44.000 --> 2:37:46.440 The is the puss to make you get a baby 2:37:49.000 --> 2:37:54.000 that I'm this is the not the This is the 2:37:54.040 --> 2:38:01.800 pom pom Juice, So Red, yes, is there anything you 2:38:01.879 --> 2:38:04.840 felt like you didn't complete in hip hop right now? 2:38:05.480 --> 2:38:10.119 Anything that you regret like or regret or just feel 2:38:10.160 --> 2:38:18.680 like you know anything or fixed. I don't know anything. 2:38:21.320 --> 2:38:25.640 I will admit that had opportunities to take it to 2:38:25.760 --> 2:38:30.520 different levels. In the business structure. I was not that 2:38:31.240 --> 2:38:37.920 much business savvy, which I had my reasons, But if 2:38:37.959 --> 2:38:43.440 I would have took that course, everything would be in 2:38:43.520 --> 2:38:48.320 a different matter. What hold me back? Because once again, 2:38:49.080 --> 2:38:53.640 you guys asked earlier the culture in the business, the 2:38:53.760 --> 2:38:57.760 corporate You know, when I got to find the other side, 2:38:57.840 --> 2:39:01.840 whether to take place in the business a culture, they 2:39:01.959 --> 2:39:05.640 had a sad, sad feeling. I had a bitter taste 2:39:05.680 --> 2:39:07.720 in my mouth because I knew where I come from 2:39:08.720 --> 2:39:13.680 and I have to do this to number one, sell 2:39:13.800 --> 2:39:20.520 my soul. Yeah, give up or whether the case may be, 2:39:21.200 --> 2:39:24.640 or the same note, just to get what I want 2:39:24.680 --> 2:39:28.560 to get. Then you know what that's ma, Who's say 2:39:28.600 --> 2:39:30.760 I'm might as gonna take the money go play a record. 2:39:32.240 --> 2:39:35.920 So that's why I never took that standard because I 2:39:36.040 --> 2:39:40.760 know I have that let production. But when I started 2:39:40.800 --> 2:39:43.320 seeing the other side that I never knew of and 2:39:43.400 --> 2:39:49.560 I'm like, no, that's not me. I mean, you know, 2:39:49.840 --> 2:39:51.880 everybody always wanted to tell you what you should do, 2:39:52.000 --> 2:39:53.640 but they never asked you what is it that you 2:39:53.800 --> 2:39:58.880 want to do. I didn't want to do that, So 2:39:59.080 --> 2:40:02.760 that's why I mean tame like where I'm at, and 2:40:03.879 --> 2:40:06.840 that's where I kept going forth for this life, for 2:40:06.920 --> 2:40:11.959 time consistency. So that's that's the only thing I regret, 2:40:12.400 --> 2:40:15.880 and I don't really regret. But if I had to 2:40:15.920 --> 2:40:20.320 go through that and just be smooth selling, I would 2:40:20.360 --> 2:40:28.720 have been all the way. That's it. It's just shafe 2:40:28.760 --> 2:40:33.760 to say what you know now to compared to what 2:40:33.920 --> 2:40:37.840 you knew back then, would you have done it all again? 2:40:38.640 --> 2:40:42.360 I would have done it differently, So that's what that's 2:40:42.440 --> 2:40:46.520 that's part of the regret, A small regret because I 2:40:46.680 --> 2:40:51.520 could have knowne how to you know, observed a little better? Right? 2:40:51.680 --> 2:40:53.520 You know what you know now? I would have been 2:40:53.520 --> 2:40:56.440 able to do it back then, you know. Can I 2:40:56.480 --> 2:40:58.800 add on to a question on what you're talking about 2:40:59.120 --> 2:41:00.920 that I like this? So I'm telling you this is 2:41:01.000 --> 2:41:04.040 the podcast reading the book I was reading the part 2:41:04.080 --> 2:41:05.880 of it might have been Russell Simmons book. I was 2:41:05.920 --> 2:41:09.200 being a couple of pages by the way clapping. Um. 2:41:09.200 --> 2:41:11.560 I I read Decoded and I read Russell Simmons book, 2:41:11.560 --> 2:41:13.240 and I think you mentioned in like the first five 2:41:13.600 --> 2:41:19.400 tempa so so really quick, I wanted to fiss, I want, 2:41:19.800 --> 2:41:23.120 I want to actually and maybe because you said this, 2:41:23.440 --> 2:41:26.280 I never actually if you realized this at this time? Right, 2:41:26.720 --> 2:41:29.360 it was kind of I read like you and Russell 2:41:29.400 --> 2:41:32.400 Simmons were like the only like hip hop management to 2:41:32.720 --> 2:41:35.880 hip hop management labels at a time, Like you know 2:41:35.920 --> 2:41:37.520 what I mean? So when i'm and when you say 2:41:37.800 --> 2:41:39.959 there's certain things about the things you would have been 2:41:40.080 --> 2:41:44.680 done different, did you realize that's what that was at 2:41:44.720 --> 2:41:49.920 the time that you was like creating that entrepreneurial self, 2:41:50.400 --> 2:41:52.080 you know what I mean? You start your own label, 2:41:52.280 --> 2:41:54.080 like right now, that's the thing, right, we love Nick, 2:41:54.160 --> 2:41:56.280 We love all these people because they do their own thing. 2:41:56.800 --> 2:41:59.040 But we talked about native tones, we talked about artists 2:41:59.080 --> 2:42:06.320 you usher, then we tell about were you actually were 2:42:06.520 --> 2:42:11.840 when Chris actually started it. Only that you um made 2:42:11.920 --> 2:42:14.160 up the word or made up the even the slogan 2:42:14.640 --> 2:42:17.840 where you're a part of the actual management, Like well 2:42:17.879 --> 2:42:20.280 you're a part of that. That's I think that's what 2:42:20.400 --> 2:42:25.879 you're trying. Did you realize that kind of being being 2:42:25.959 --> 2:42:31.200 part of the blueprint. I have realized it afterwards. And 2:42:31.240 --> 2:42:35.039 when I realized it afterwards, that's what I said, Damn, 2:42:35.080 --> 2:42:39.000 I should have been a different vout a better about that. 2:42:39.200 --> 2:42:42.840 That's what it is. And then here's another thing. Chris 2:42:43.080 --> 2:42:46.760 was taken from me on the load. He was taken 2:42:46.959 --> 2:42:50.160 from you because when I had for him in regular 2:42:50.320 --> 2:42:54.200 production and they saw I was up and coming, they 2:42:54.280 --> 2:42:58.800 in his air for him to grow with them with 2:42:59.000 --> 2:43:02.400 Russian management. Huh were Russian management? Yes? I had to 2:43:02.440 --> 2:43:06.560 be rush management because that's what birth violator. And then 2:43:06.720 --> 2:43:09.120 so now I gotta actually straight up like when you 2:43:09.240 --> 2:43:13.360 see Rollater was formed. I was happy to that, and 2:43:13.560 --> 2:43:18.480 I let gonna tell you how that became. Because first 2:43:19.360 --> 2:43:23.880 they came to me about there was a record company Relativity. 2:43:25.040 --> 2:43:31.080 Steve No no, no, no, that's no no no no, yeah, yeah, 2:43:31.120 --> 2:43:37.520 but no Stevens there. Brie was there at Relativity. Um um, damn, mom. 2:43:37.640 --> 2:43:40.960 I was gonna say Alan Gromlock, but I forget, I 2:43:41.040 --> 2:43:44.040 forget who it is. I had to beat with them. 2:43:46.560 --> 2:43:51.840 Chris my representative. So they offered me to try to 2:43:52.000 --> 2:43:55.320 form a label deal. The only problem I couldn't do 2:43:55.360 --> 2:43:58.120 it because it's been a conflict of interest. I couldn't 2:43:58.120 --> 2:44:01.520 have a label deal and be on race Yo. That's 2:44:01.560 --> 2:44:06.879 a confident interest. So passed onto Chris. And that's where 2:44:07.520 --> 2:44:13.800 you see Fat Joe, che L beat Nuts. They came 2:44:13.800 --> 2:44:20.520 out under relativity and talk yeah, but me around all 2:44:20.640 --> 2:44:24.600 around that progama of time. Chris is also real an 2:44:24.640 --> 2:44:30.320 association with Russ so he you know what, he can 2:44:30.640 --> 2:44:36.160 offer that relativity to go ahead to form violators because 2:44:36.240 --> 2:44:41.680 remember his own brolla was Baby Sounds that was under 2:44:41.680 --> 2:44:46.480 the umbrolla was violate the management, violate the records, and 2:44:46.600 --> 2:44:50.360 a couple other different avenues, and that's what he formed. 2:44:50.520 --> 2:44:53.720 But he got his idea by being environd with relativity. 2:44:54.440 --> 2:44:58.000 But here it is they saw a jewel that was 2:44:58.160 --> 2:45:03.640 under me and they matched. Wow when you say they 2:45:05.280 --> 2:45:16.120 who we just mentioned? Yeah, that was one more the 2:45:16.240 --> 2:45:20.480 last one. And I always asked about this because you know, 2:45:20.640 --> 2:45:24.879 I lived in stuff like that. It's a lot of times. 2:45:25.000 --> 2:45:32.360 You tell me that Jungle Brothers cuted. You know, various 2:45:32.360 --> 2:45:37.240 other Native Tongue artists used to record in the career, right, 2:45:37.840 --> 2:45:41.280 tell me about the end House studio that they used 2:45:41.320 --> 2:45:44.040 to like, what was that environment like I was, I 2:45:44.200 --> 2:45:46.080 wasn't around, you know what I mean? So what was 2:45:46.200 --> 2:45:51.280 that like? And in the crib once you get arresting 2:45:51.320 --> 2:45:53.800 peace of my mother because my mother is like I 2:45:53.879 --> 2:45:56.000 always said, my way is the head of the whole 2:45:56.200 --> 2:45:59.040 entire thing, right, you know, I ain't gonna lie. And 2:45:59.440 --> 2:46:01.400 and they both can take more. He can tell you. 2:46:02.240 --> 2:46:06.160 Member was kangster, That little five foot and a half 2:46:06.240 --> 2:46:10.320 woman was something else, but she alive. Everybody to come 2:46:10.400 --> 2:46:14.800 through the crib and members of Jungle, members of Daylight, 2:46:15.200 --> 2:46:22.680 members of the tribe creeen l tie for Ultra, you 2:46:22.720 --> 2:46:26.520 know what I mean. The list is knowing everybody comes 2:46:26.560 --> 2:46:29.320 to the crib, amber's too late, should tell him you 2:46:29.360 --> 2:46:33.400 ain't going the way there on that couch. That's what 2:46:33.520 --> 2:46:37.440 it was like the electric So yeah, it was like 2:46:37.560 --> 2:46:40.840 that and it was always spending time. Then I was 2:46:40.920 --> 2:46:43.760 on the road that that year for the Dope Jam tour. 2:46:44.360 --> 2:46:47.640 They took over mother just like here. It is the 2:46:47.760 --> 2:46:51.320 same thing. Sammy was the DJ filling for me on 2:46:52.000 --> 2:46:55.080 Kiss From But when I learned there was different members 2:46:55.120 --> 2:46:58.600 of the natives, Mber was playing too turned over everybody. 2:46:59.440 --> 2:47:04.760 It was like go That's how they was moving. So 2:47:04.920 --> 2:47:09.680 that's what it was. Stuff. Man, I can't do nothing 2:47:09.720 --> 2:47:15.240 else but clapp all right. I just want you to 2:47:15.360 --> 2:47:20.680 know our show was about doing what we just did. 2:47:20.840 --> 2:47:23.920 Right there, we looked at everybody else and everything else 2:47:24.040 --> 2:47:26.800 going on, and my partner right here to the right 2:47:26.840 --> 2:47:29.359 of me kept telling me, man, let's do a podcast. 2:47:29.440 --> 2:47:33.720 Let's do a podcast, and we wanted to. When we 2:47:33.840 --> 2:47:35.640 came together, we said we want to do it different. 2:47:35.680 --> 2:47:39.600 We want to get people they roses, people that you 2:47:39.680 --> 2:47:42.920 don't deserve it like you know, not not no, no 2:47:43.040 --> 2:47:45.400 disrespect to the new people, because that's not what we're saying. 2:47:45.440 --> 2:47:47.480 We're not saying we don't mess with the new people. 2:47:48.000 --> 2:47:51.560 What we're saying is our legends deserved to be respected. 2:47:51.600 --> 2:47:56.240 Our legends deserve they don't deserve you know, yellow roses, 2:47:56.400 --> 2:48:00.920 they don't deserve white roses, and don't deserve ring ros letters, 2:48:01.280 --> 2:48:06.560 gold rolls, legends. You know what I'm saying, people who 2:48:06.720 --> 2:48:10.360 deserve You know that that that that that twenty years 2:48:10.400 --> 2:48:13.840 that ten years span, that fifteen years span, and um, 2:48:15.360 --> 2:48:16.800 we want to say it to your face. You know 2:48:16.840 --> 2:48:20.520 what I'm saying, Like so many people, something happened to 2:48:20.600 --> 2:48:23.720 somebody and me and my partner realize that, like people 2:48:23.720 --> 2:48:28.040 always give people the roses and they dead like let's 2:48:28.160 --> 2:48:32.840 let's let's let's let's can repeat doing it. And we've 2:48:32.879 --> 2:48:36.600 been luckily. I think we're approaching six years now, we're 2:48:36.640 --> 2:48:39.720 approaching six March. Six years we're doing that, and we 2:48:39.879 --> 2:48:43.080 ain't bite wing fold. We ain't do We were stuck 2:48:43.160 --> 2:48:46.800 to our legends and rather alert. Let me just tell 2:48:46.840 --> 2:48:53.840 you something. You are super duper legends, the allegend of legends, 2:48:55.760 --> 2:48:59.879 the coolest legends. And this is listen man, when because 2:48:59.879 --> 2:49:02.440 we gonna hit you out with the play see y'all 2:49:02.440 --> 2:49:07.440 gonna form a podcast we're doing y'are signed to drink, 2:49:09.200 --> 2:49:12.320 Yeah yeah, but when they come time liten, this is 2:49:12.400 --> 2:49:16.320 your platform, Our show is your show. You've always ever 2:49:16.400 --> 2:49:19.400 since I've seen you, Rad, I've never I can't remember 2:49:19.640 --> 2:49:22.520 any time I ever seen Rad Alert, and I was 2:49:22.959 --> 2:49:26.200 was displeasure. I've always it's always been great. And you 2:49:26.240 --> 2:49:29.200 always got me drunk too. You probably like, yeah, you 2:49:29.280 --> 2:49:40.640 always like he still got you drunk and realized that. 2:49:41.440 --> 2:49:45.280 But you always was a great soul. Every time I've 2:49:45.280 --> 2:49:48.560 seen you, you've been a blessing. You've been a legend, 2:49:49.360 --> 2:49:53.760 you've been a teacher, um, and we were so happy 2:49:53.840 --> 2:49:55.800 to give you your roses. We're so happy to tell 2:49:55.840 --> 2:50:00.680 you how much you mean to us, hip hop, the culture, 2:50:01.320 --> 2:50:05.800 everything man. Like. You know, we've always you know, talking 2:50:05.920 --> 2:50:09.680 this hip hop union ship. And you know that's when 2:50:09.720 --> 2:50:12.280 I think of hip hop union, I think of you know, 2:50:12.440 --> 2:50:14.440 people on the forefront of it. It's just like, yo, 2:50:15.000 --> 2:50:18.880 we should have you at the forefront. I'm just saying 2:50:19.000 --> 2:50:21.760 what the funk should should happen, because you know what 2:50:21.920 --> 2:50:24.120 it is. Even when I tried to get you to 2:50:24.160 --> 2:50:26.879 say something wrong about something, you didn't do it tonight. 2:50:27.440 --> 2:50:33.400 I tried to. I tried to. No, I wasn't gonna 2:50:33.400 --> 2:50:36.800 do that. He told me, not drinking. I can't do that. 2:50:36.879 --> 2:50:39.760 I can't. No, I can't do that unless he was 2:50:40.120 --> 2:50:44.240 he Sometimes you get you, Okay, I want to be mad, 2:50:48.280 --> 2:50:53.080 but you know our honestly, honestly aside, you really deserve 2:50:53.640 --> 2:51:00.320 your flowers. You really a legend. Everything you accomplishment, um, Like, 2:51:00.920 --> 2:51:04.640 I mean, forget me as a rapper, I'm talking about 2:51:04.640 --> 2:51:10.000 me as a fan. I remember just so and just 2:51:10.160 --> 2:51:12.840 running too a radio and just you know, sitting there 2:51:12.840 --> 2:51:15.560 and watching the older brothers. You know, smoke weed when 2:51:15.600 --> 2:51:21.959 I was like, let's just think and they were right, Hey, 2:51:22.040 --> 2:51:24.440 can I give a shout out to this lady that's 2:51:24.680 --> 2:51:27.440 in here with us? She's over there on the side, 2:51:28.800 --> 2:51:35.280 she having short on and shortest Union Square. We were there, 2:51:35.360 --> 2:51:38.280 you know, we was you there? Where are you there? 2:51:41.440 --> 2:51:44.240 That's also part of the prop Master retro should that 2:51:44.400 --> 2:51:47.080 you have if I can go on prop Master metro, 2:51:47.560 --> 2:51:52.280 So that gonna be the documentary? Huh? Is that going 2:51:52.320 --> 2:51:57.520 to be the documentary? Not for nothing? She also should 2:51:57.560 --> 2:52:00.720 be a part of the documentary. That's tell us the 2:52:00.800 --> 2:52:04.960 bottom of it that you do know who that is? 2:52:05.480 --> 2:52:08.160 Tell us this lady right here is the person that 2:52:08.520 --> 2:52:12.040 showed me when I first started Union Square and then 2:52:12.280 --> 2:52:17.640 evolved later on as management of the Shadow nightclub. That's 2:52:17.640 --> 2:52:23.200 where the gods were being shadow up earlier. Shadow. Yes, 2:52:23.680 --> 2:52:34.400 that's as well. Add the Shadow book wide that we 2:52:34.480 --> 2:52:41.360 do every year. Anything about it. When you see good 2:52:41.440 --> 2:52:46.080 people that you have history with, beautiful, Now that lawyer 2:52:46.160 --> 2:52:50.680 t you go with that lawyer because you know there's 2:52:50.680 --> 2:52:53.840 a real out of respect with that lawyer. That's beautiful. 2:52:53.920 --> 2:52:56.640 That's what it is. So is there anything that we 2:52:56.800 --> 2:53:00.480 ain't covered that we should have covered anybody. Do you 2:53:00.560 --> 2:53:05.000 want to couple anything? Um, this pub can probably tell 2:53:05.000 --> 2:53:06.800 you some things that we're haven't store. I don't know 2:53:06.879 --> 2:53:10.040 what you want to say. This is what you're the one. 2:53:10.120 --> 2:53:12.920 I've been doing the old school reunion, like I said, 2:53:12.920 --> 2:53:15.359 I was doing with Molly and and we still continue. 2:53:15.400 --> 2:53:17.440 We just had a nice little celebration for for my 2:53:17.520 --> 2:53:21.000 forty five years last month, you know, and we're still 2:53:21.040 --> 2:53:23.120 doing it. We're gonna go as as far as we can, 2:53:23.160 --> 2:53:25.200 the old school re union. We've been doing it for 2:53:25.320 --> 2:53:29.120 like twelve thirteen years strong Rest of Peace. DJ Lance, 2:53:29.480 --> 2:53:33.480 one of our DJs passed away from covid um, but 2:53:33.640 --> 2:53:37.880 with Molly mall Um rather alert. We had we had 2:53:37.920 --> 2:53:43.280 Claude Camper, we had Uncle Ralph Nobuck star Ski. Yeah 2:53:43.360 --> 2:53:45.680 you know, so we had a list of good DJ's, 2:53:46.000 --> 2:53:57.240 talented DJ's. Yeah, yeah, yeah, world, I ain't know that. 2:53:58.200 --> 2:54:00.560 And you know my reason for celebra of forty five 2:54:00.640 --> 2:54:03.200 years because I look at this, like he just mentioned 2:54:03.240 --> 2:54:05.440 by my man, DJ Lands, he was like the top 2:54:05.640 --> 2:54:08.120 DJ in Brooklyn in the past that he was known 2:54:08.480 --> 2:54:11.039 him as Master d then he changed the name DJ Lands. 2:54:11.760 --> 2:54:17.200 He held Brooklyn down single handed for years. Him and 2:54:17.280 --> 2:54:20.440 I rebuild a great relation and we found out we 2:54:20.560 --> 2:54:23.280 had something in common that we've started the same year. 2:54:23.560 --> 2:54:26.520 He started in May, I started in August. Unfortunately he's 2:54:26.560 --> 2:54:30.439 not here to celebrate that. So my reason was sufferings 2:54:30.480 --> 2:54:34.080 forty five years because I'm dedicating this forty five to 2:54:34.440 --> 2:54:39.680 all the DJs I know throughout the time that we 2:54:39.720 --> 2:54:43.040 no longer have here. I mean not just riffering up 2:54:43.080 --> 2:54:46.480 in New York, and I mean across the country, people 2:54:46.520 --> 2:54:49.320 I know from overseas, everybody that passed away that brought 2:54:49.400 --> 2:54:52.000 them to the table. I've dedicate my forty five to dump. 2:54:56.879 --> 2:54:59.480 But I gotta ask this question because I'm never gonna 2:54:59.600 --> 2:55:12.480 know what was the Boopies like in the eighties, the group. 2:55:12.520 --> 2:55:16.280 He's like, you know the girls? The girls? Yeah, was 2:55:16.320 --> 2:55:26.400 you a finger Papara? He's gonna cut it up before math. 2:55:26.480 --> 2:55:30.720 I'm so sorry. Before many when you was out there loose, 2:55:31.080 --> 2:55:34.160 we all was loose. Come on, I think that's where 2:55:34.200 --> 2:55:39.560 his intro came. I can only put it rung weight. 2:55:40.560 --> 2:55:43.720 You're gonna keep it clean. I'd like to thank everybody 2:55:43.760 --> 2:56:16.480 for the black body I fling. Oh my god, thanks 2:56:16.560 --> 2:56:19.039 for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs hosted 2:56:19.080 --> 2:56:21.320 by Yours Truly, d j e f N and n 2:56:21.400 --> 2:56:23.440 O r E. Please make sure to follow us on 2:56:23.480 --> 2:56:26.640 all our socials. 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