Speaker 1: And it's Drink Chas motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary Queen's rapper.
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Speaker 1: is d J E f N? And this is drink Chance.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker Yappia makes un And as we always say before
Speaker 1: we start a show, we say that this is a
Speaker 1: legend that we're about to introduce. But I want to
Speaker 1: take uh with Mr Lee just said off camera, he said,
Speaker 1: this is a super legend. This is a super legend.
Speaker 1: I remember waking up just to hear this man on
Speaker 1: the radio trying to get you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: not even thinking at this time, I wouldn't even think
Speaker 1: about being a rapper. I just wanted to hear this.
Speaker 1: These people play on the radio and when I hit everybody,
Speaker 1: what you do all the time before I do an interview,
Speaker 1: I hit, I hit people, and I'll say, what does this?
Speaker 1: You know you got a question for this guy? And
Speaker 1: everyone just responded and wanted to show their love for
Speaker 1: this super super super a legend. I mean, we just
Speaker 1: heard he's celebrating the forty seven um year being a DJ.
Speaker 1: Is that crue? I'm forty four years old, So I
Speaker 1: let you know how much of a legend this is.
Speaker 1: I mean when I say I am honored, I am
Speaker 1: proud to have him on our show. Motherfucking cool DJ. Respect, man, respect,
Speaker 1: not super respect to you man. Um, let's let's let's
Speaker 1: let's let's let's. I won't pounce all over the place,
Speaker 1: but one place I want to start with you is Violator. Yes,
Speaker 1: the first time I ever you know, I eventually became Violator,
Speaker 1: but first time I ever heard of Violator was with
Speaker 1: you before I even heard uh. Later on became Baby Chris,
Speaker 1: before I even heard of him. I heard that that
Speaker 1: was your crew, Violators. Can you break that down for me? Violators?
Speaker 1: That's right, it's five members and it started out in
Speaker 1: Union Square. Wow, and that's downtowntown. You spread lower part
Speaker 1: in midpart of midtown Manhattan. And I remember the first
Speaker 1: day I started and five guys came to came in.
Speaker 1: They said, yo, Bam, send us down here, like bam
Speaker 1: send your bottom. Yeah, may send you all down here.
Speaker 1: But I see what because y'all feel that, you know,
Speaker 1: I would give a come into my own what I
Speaker 1: was about to do. So they come on in. But
Speaker 1: they had this thing about taking over people girls. That's
Speaker 1: why they called violators. That's why I call them. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: he was going there. You know, we all from uptown
Speaker 1: and no Manhattan. The Bronx ain't know you're Spaklyn, right,
Speaker 1: so you know, they feel like you know, but of
Speaker 1: course had this rep but no, I saw some guys
Speaker 1: coming with some girls, so they called themselves running up
Speaker 1: on the girls and their arms around and walking over
Speaker 1: and you know, God, and that's why I was gonna say, yo, man,
Speaker 1: y'all can't be doing that's wrong with you'all. You're violating, man.
Speaker 1: One thing leads to another. First, it was just it
Speaker 1: was four guys, four or five guys, and two of
Speaker 1: them mainly was Chris Lady and double one was called down.
Speaker 1: We called him sneaky deep okay, the other day like
Speaker 1: sped off from then here come two more the same thing.
Speaker 1: Damn some mus done. All these guys from Branch River,
Speaker 1: I say, yeah, yeah, come on in. So that's Chris
Speaker 1: Ali and Big Rod and the last person you go
Speaker 1: about the name of Hands, but we gave him a
Speaker 1: nickname called Black Jesus. I'm gonna tell you why. As
Speaker 1: dark skin as he is. But the Jemmy Colls look
Speaker 1: like you're about to do a prayer. So that's why
Speaker 1: I'm calling Black Jesus. So I need to ask right
Speaker 1: now when Chris like now, now, this is Chris father.
Speaker 1: This is Chris lady who came around when you said
Speaker 1: when you say baby christ you talk about Chris ldy's father,
Speaker 1: were talking about Chris like Chris like, okay, now was
Speaker 1: he always supposed to Was he always had this plan
Speaker 1: to be in management or what was his role? So
Speaker 1: you don't understand during the time when Chris was coming
Speaker 1: down with the Fellers, you know that people did not
Speaker 1: know that Chris was going to school and working as
Speaker 1: an electrician for Metro North, you know, and then on
Speaker 1: his off time he come and hang out with the
Speaker 1: Fellers and be so you know, he was a person
Speaker 1: that was legant and cocky, didn't kill yes, but I
Speaker 1: always saw that he had a you know, good head
Speaker 1: on his shoulders. This way, anybody that's around eighteen years
Speaker 1: old that had a job working as electrician and Metro
Speaker 1: North while going to school, you know, you can utilize that.
Speaker 1: So when the younger brothers stopped coming to form that's
Speaker 1: my nephew right g North of Africa band and baby
Speaker 1: Bam and um Sammy b I needed somebody to read
Speaker 1: the road manager, so I pointed Chris to become the
Speaker 1: row manager. What did you see in Chris? What did
Speaker 1: you like? Ambition? The ambition, Like I said, he was cocky, arrogant,
Speaker 1: but you also sort the other sideway, you know, he
Speaker 1: had something that to standford or you know what it
Speaker 1: is down the road. So that's why I appointed him
Speaker 1: as roll manager. And this is road manager for this
Speaker 1: is yes, Hunt and Jung Bubbish came about, you know,
Speaker 1: and before you know, after a while he became at
Speaker 1: the fourth member. Yeah, Jesus, there's so much history here man. Yes,
Speaker 1: So okay, how does this develop into you? Because hip
Speaker 1: hop this time especially I'm outside of looking at it him,
Speaker 1: I'm like I said, I'm forty four years old. How
Speaker 1: do you go from like the hip hop like hip
Speaker 1: hop being underground and then you get this chance to
Speaker 1: be on the radio station. Well, first and foremost, I
Speaker 1: got to give a live of respectors um may he
Speaker 1: rest in peace, super rocking Mr Magic Wow. You know
Speaker 1: he's the one that I always said that he's the
Speaker 1: one that really opened the doors for us to be
Speaker 1: doing the airwaves. So it's Mr Magic first. Mr Magic First.
Speaker 1: He used to be on the independent station w HBI
Speaker 1: point nine and late night from like two to four
Speaker 1: in the morning. But you know he had grabbed so
Speaker 1: much attention from the youth and the streets that he
Speaker 1: is WBLS major radio station picked him up. So they
Speaker 1: picked him up. No, that's ran nine eight point seven.
Speaker 1: Kiss firm had interest because they want to do similar
Speaker 1: to what BLS is doing. First person they ran after
Speaker 1: was a member of the zoo nation called Africa Islam,
Speaker 1: but he missed a couple of appointments. I think he
Speaker 1: was overseas at the time. So the next person they
Speaker 1: went after was my cousin, the original DJ J, and
Speaker 1: he did it for a couple of months even though
Speaker 1: there wasn't paying, but he gained so much exposure for
Speaker 1: getting gigs and studio work, and then he let it
Speaker 1: go cause he was on the go with the SOCNIC
Speaker 1: for us to performing. So they came to him. They
Speaker 1: came and said, who's the next person having lined? So
Speaker 1: it came to me, and that was in October nineteen three.
Speaker 1: I never looked back some boys for that. Goddamn how
Speaker 1: old were you when you got that gig? How old?
Speaker 1: Damn more or less? Huh more or less? Like? How
Speaker 1: old you think got? Being my um, you asked that question.
Speaker 1: So I I'm bouncing around a little bit ahead. How
Speaker 1: do you after flex? Connect? Well? I gotta give it
Speaker 1: a lot of credit for the person work from master
Speaker 1: Flexing was Chuck Chillout. Okay, yes that's right. Chuck chill
Speaker 1: Out and Flex grew up together, you know, and flex
Speaker 1: used to always be up and even look like each
Speaker 1: other a little bit. I went to all and so
Speaker 1: here it is that when Chuck he went over to
Speaker 1: BLS and flexes with him. But then some situation happened
Speaker 1: and things despaired from over their BLS. I don't actually
Speaker 1: know what happened, but despair that no longer Chuck is there.
Speaker 1: You know, Flect was there right after Chuck, But Chuck,
Speaker 1: I mean Flex, that kind of um sped off. I
Speaker 1: had a backup DJ every time was on the road,
Speaker 1: and Flex your backup DJ. No, no, no. The first
Speaker 1: backup DJ for me was seeing me being the Jungle
Speaker 1: Brothers because back at a D eight there was a
Speaker 1: Dope Champ tour that I was on with on Boogie
Speaker 1: Down production and I needed somebody to know feeling for
Speaker 1: me for the whole summer. So that was Sammy B.
Speaker 1: But after I finished that, now Sammy is taken off
Speaker 1: of the Jungle What was they doing their thing? So
Speaker 1: now I still have to have time off and going
Speaker 1: away to doing gigs or doing conventions or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: So I need another backup DJ. So that's when I
Speaker 1: had interests in Flex, and I asked him to come in.
Speaker 1: He said, problem, So let me let me like I said,
Speaker 1: let me be bouncing around a little bit. Right at
Speaker 1: what point? Because at one point in hip hop, it
Speaker 1: felt like the DJ was the star and like the
Speaker 1: rapper or the MC was really the hype man. But
Speaker 1: it was always like the DJ. At what point of
Speaker 1: hip Hop did it? Did that change when the recording
Speaker 1: field came in? Why? Because you remember in the beginning,
Speaker 1: when you heard certain groups like Flash and the Furious Facts.
Speaker 1: You know, um you heard of Rocket first, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and there were certain times you heard the DJ name
Speaker 1: first because he was the forefront. But the DJ is
Speaker 1: not being on the record, so who they're paying attention
Speaker 1: to the person who's on the record. So that's where
Speaker 1: the navitive had changed that people start paying more attention
Speaker 1: on the MC that we call at that time become
Speaker 1: known as rappers, and that's where everybody started looking more
Speaker 1: at the rappers. But the DJ was always in the
Speaker 1: forefront because the MC master ceremonies was the hype man
Speaker 1: or you know, the crowd participator. And know, in the
Speaker 1: very beginning, hip hoply was just like simple little rhymes,
Speaker 1: you know. But then here it is, it got to
Speaker 1: the next step. And I give credit to people like Melly,
Speaker 1: Mellow Cast, you know, couple others. You know, they're the
Speaker 1: ones that started making more lyrical and that's why it
Speaker 1: transcend to people start making records and everybody come out again.
Speaker 1: You know the songs. Now that's this famous party right,
Speaker 1: this one they say, this is the first hip hop
Speaker 1: party that happened uptown. Were you there? No? Okay, cool?
Speaker 1: I'm glad you ket kept it real because I don't
Speaker 1: be knowing who was there, but Grandma's cast out here
Speaker 1: and said he said he was a kid there as
Speaker 1: a kid. He was there. He said he was there
Speaker 1: as a kid. Okay, if if I remember Greig last
Speaker 1: what we said? So because what was it like? Just
Speaker 1: like fifty people there? Did you hear about this party?
Speaker 1: Like the first party? I let on, you know, because
Speaker 1: no understand, I didn't grow up. I went to school
Speaker 1: in the Bronx, but I grew up in Hall them. Okay,
Speaker 1: I went to school in the bron Clinton High School.
Speaker 1: I'm in a tough time up there in Clinton High School.
Speaker 1: And it was all boys quote unquote during the game, right,
Speaker 1: so you know when things start quiet down and then
Speaker 1: you know, they started having these different functions. I used
Speaker 1: to always talk about her her, who was her? So
Speaker 1: the fun us and no alarm me. You know, we
Speaker 1: all went to check out her for the first time
Speaker 1: and I caught the book at the same time, called
Speaker 1: the brother from him. I was sneaking downtown to the
Speaker 1: clubs we used under age, you had to be dress
Speaker 1: a public, actually wear my older brother clothes. And I
Speaker 1: was checking out the DJ's downtown and checking out her uptown.
Speaker 1: So I learned the difference of the disco downtown because
Speaker 1: because this is the downtown, they won't playing hip hop. No, No,
Speaker 1: there was no such thing the dance student type crowd,
Speaker 1: not totally, because you know, I was certain clubs I
Speaker 1: was playing. I was not playing, but I was going
Speaker 1: to was you know, a combination of R and B
Speaker 1: and dance moment some disco. Okay, so you're talking about
Speaker 1: student fifty four, that's a whole different range. Okay, when
Speaker 1: you're talking about these clubs like No Greens, Uh, Superstar Cafeteria,
Speaker 1: Hotel Diplomat, I mean the list is no. You know,
Speaker 1: that was more for the urban crowd, the urban clouds
Speaker 1: downtown that was going downtown uptown. Herd would play a
Speaker 1: twist of it, but add some other different elements. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of red type of sounds that you know,
Speaker 1: become known as classics to this day, like the Mexican
Speaker 1: like it's just begun like Apache, you know, in feborous otherways,
Speaker 1: you know, and you also had other DJs that was
Speaker 1: right under him, the original DJ Clark Kent, not from
Speaker 1: the book name, really original DJ Clark Kent, the original
Speaker 1: DJ Clark. I didn't know this, do this of course,
Speaker 1: get confused, but the original that was under her. And
Speaker 1: there was another guy he passed away name knew it
Speaker 1: Timmy Wow. So they were the one. And then you
Speaker 1: know there was time that you know, Koklevok who was
Speaker 1: considered the first MC. Yeah he was k was Kirk's MC.
Speaker 1: Here it is. He would get on the turntables a
Speaker 1: couple of times, you know, even a couple of times
Speaker 1: her would get on the microphone, you know. So that's
Speaker 1: really was everybody just showing their style, their own flair.
Speaker 1: So I was learning the difference of downtown and uptown
Speaker 1: and that study booth and then when the when the
Speaker 1: Bam Bought a coming like in me between youth covering
Speaker 1: the downtown is a difference uptown? Is this now? I
Speaker 1: did not know about Ben Bought until a little later on.
Speaker 1: And because right after Coolhood, the next wave DJs came in,
Speaker 1: like Flash Rest in Peace a j Uh the the
Speaker 1: El Brother was featuring grammars at Theodore as the youngest Um.
Speaker 1: The listens Long Guy named smokey Um. There's so many
Speaker 1: of them, and I was handing so much about Bam,
Speaker 1: but Band was on the other side of the Bronx.
Speaker 1: How I got to learn more about Band because my
Speaker 1: cousin Jazz, along with the family, had moved from down
Speaker 1: in the Hallam and moved up in the Bronx for
Speaker 1: the Bronx the Bronx River. The first person that Um
Speaker 1: Jazzy got down with was a number person rest in peace,
Speaker 1: name disco King Mario. And when you got down with Mario,
Speaker 1: Maam started handing about, Well, who was this young guy
Speaker 1: that's over there? Mario? He said, the family is just
Speaker 1: moving the plodect. He said, we're supposed to be doing
Speaker 1: over there. He supposed to be with us. So he
Speaker 1: went and got a hold Jazz. And that's how Jazz
Speaker 1: spoke prior to Nation being formed. Yes, no, I mean
Speaker 1: Jude Nation was already formed. But you know a lot
Speaker 1: of time Jazz got up, you know, he got down
Speaker 1: and then they brought me in. And how how is
Speaker 1: is that? Like? Um, I never got to see the Zulu.
Speaker 1: I never got to see the unity that I mean,
Speaker 1: because you know, people say what's down, you know things
Speaker 1: about the gangs at that time like that, you know,
Speaker 1: the Black Space, but it was it was a formal thought.
Speaker 1: It was a part of the Black spage. He was
Speaker 1: down with I think Black Space or the Baby Space,
Speaker 1: anything under that affiliation. You know, people people, and that
Speaker 1: turned into Zula Nation. Well here it is. When the
Speaker 1: gangs died down, he had from a group called the Organization.
Speaker 1: I still wasn't around yet. Okay, no, hearsay and I
Speaker 1: heard that, asked about maybe six eight months. And then
Speaker 1: he formed the Zoo Nation. And he started with the
Speaker 1: Bronze River, and then he started to gather formulating little
Speaker 1: by little spread than that. Man, I'm getting schooled, brother,
Speaker 1: I'm getting schooled. Brother, I'm getting schooled. So bouncing around,
Speaker 1: bouncing around like how we always do, wouldn't it focus?
Speaker 1: But when I text Fat Joe the first thing he said,
Speaker 1: I say that, I say you got he got a
Speaker 1: question for Betther Alert. He said, yeah, he discovered Fat Joe.
Speaker 1: Is this true? I mean he probably discovered a lot
Speaker 1: of people. Not probably. We know. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: how this came about. Okay, cool. So I got to
Speaker 1: hear Joe for the first time at the Pottle Okay,
Speaker 1: he was right. Yeah, he went at the pom and
Speaker 1: I don't even know how many times you've been there,
Speaker 1: but I showed him that one time. It was amateur night.
Speaker 1: So afterwards I had interests because I'm wanting to get
Speaker 1: like a promo from him, because I was known for
Speaker 1: playing promos, you know, like the plates type promo. When
Speaker 1: promos it's like it's recorded and they passed it to
Speaker 1: me as on tape you know, and get to play.
Speaker 1: You know. I had some of them passed me on
Speaker 1: cassette and I transferred to the you know through real
Speaker 1: and play such as like people's demos. Basically it's not demos.
Speaker 1: We consider promo because not only that it's demo, but
Speaker 1: it's promos for not for my show, for the radio.
Speaker 1: But they're announcing the um magate points that m amounting me,
Speaker 1: and they're doing their little freestyle in it. People such
Speaker 1: as like d Knights or t R eight Oorators coming,
Speaker 1: you know, just as an example. So um I asked
Speaker 1: Joe to similarm to me, so he did it. I
Speaker 1: took my time and hold onto it until I finally
Speaker 1: played it. And one thing I had about promos, there's
Speaker 1: some promos I had that I usually played them regularly
Speaker 1: like they was in rotation, like records and where it
Speaker 1: got around. Well, well give me you the props for alert.
Speaker 1: I've seen you trying to be humble about it. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be trying to listen. Listen, the man said, listen.
Speaker 1: I it's so it's so crazy because what y'all did,
Speaker 1: what you was a part of what is happening now.
Speaker 1: It's it's so important to tell the history. It's so
Speaker 1: like when I'm texting people from everyone, it's like your
Speaker 1: red has so much history. So this is the the reason
Speaker 1: why I'm like bouncing around. But it's so important that
Speaker 1: this history doesn't be for guy, you understand what I'm saying, because, um,
Speaker 1: the one thing I learned about this new generation that
Speaker 1: I pay attention to is what they would say. They
Speaker 1: would be like like they'll they'll they'll quote a line
Speaker 1: and they wraps like yo, like Jordan's dropped eighty six
Speaker 1: and and the Jordan dropped fifty five and eighty six.
Speaker 1: You're like, you mean, y'all went and did the research
Speaker 1: for Michael Jordan's but you get the money through hip
Speaker 1: hop and you don't know what's happening in the pop.
Speaker 1: You know, why them Jordan's that you got on this
Speaker 1: other section. But you don't know when you hear juicy beet,
Speaker 1: where does it come from? You don't know when you
Speaker 1: hear grand Master, like you don't know when you hear
Speaker 1: these certain things. You know. I think that go according
Speaker 1: to the perception. Jordan's example, The perception is you hear
Speaker 1: so much about Jordan, you're gonna look up about Jordan's
Speaker 1: because you're not going to take time to study about
Speaker 1: the um what you're getting into, you know. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: if you can study upon anything in music, you can
Speaker 1: study anything into sports and too industrial, into politics and
Speaker 1: who the people who that was there before you and
Speaker 1: set it up for you to be where you at.
Speaker 1: For a lot of people don't do that. This is
Speaker 1: go by perception. So right, you know, rest in peace
Speaker 1: Kobe right now? Everybody using Kobe name, you know, anybody
Speaker 1: use a famous popular name, whatever whatever they had done
Speaker 1: and put it in their vines, but they're not gonna
Speaker 1: do them. Who can dig deep to see where it
Speaker 1: really ovirginally come from? I mean, why not though? Because
Speaker 1: the interest is not there. At some point we stopped
Speaker 1: passing that knowledge down to keep that interest there. That's
Speaker 1: what I think. Drink you start to help with it.
Speaker 1: At some point, even even if you was a street rifle,
Speaker 1: you wanted to be smart or something. You wanted to
Speaker 1: know something like you know what I mean, Like you
Speaker 1: didn't want to somebody to walk into the room when
Speaker 1: you not know that this person is this person? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So like when when did rap
Speaker 1: become dumb? Like like I mean, like what and I'm
Speaker 1: not I feel that the online internet, social media will
Speaker 1: control the mind. So today because now you're not thinking
Speaker 1: for yourself. You're thinking according to the perception and what
Speaker 1: you're seeing, what you're here or their online do social
Speaker 1: media and everything, so you're not willing to go and
Speaker 1: dig a little deeper. You know, people from the time
Speaker 1: you was out with me, they used to always talk
Speaker 1: about their favorite rapper from before and go digs it
Speaker 1: today And so like a halt according to what I
Speaker 1: just said. And it's because like like you had I
Speaker 1: think I think we had something called paying dudes that
Speaker 1: that never stopped. I mean right now they'd up the
Speaker 1: hand dudes, and they're not making the record class and
Speaker 1: they couldn't class, Like, how do you like? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta go to school. Sometimes school they go by to school.
Speaker 1: Wow wow, Wow, that that was deep. That was deep. Okay,
Speaker 1: Caress one comes out with this record. Now from my understanding,
Speaker 1: the South of Bronx came first. No, no, no, it
Speaker 1: wasn't Crane, It wasn't the bridge. Bridge first. It was
Speaker 1: the bridge. Okay, I need you to describe because you
Speaker 1: know I'm it hurt me. It hurt me like a
Speaker 1: grown man. But I was a kid. Back to what
Speaker 1: Harris was struck first, Yes, I always do it, come on,
Speaker 1: always thought it at the South Bross. Then you know,
Speaker 1: maybe I got my memory. I smoke out of marijuana.
Speaker 1: Don't know if people have knew that. Okay, I smelled
Speaker 1: so okay, So the bridge comes um mc sharing at
Speaker 1: Molly Mark at the time. Are you are Molly Mark? Friends?
Speaker 1: Are y'all like ours? We was arch rivals on the
Speaker 1: airwaves and I did not really know much about Molly.
Speaker 1: He didn't not know much about We always had hair
Speaker 1: say and people would read that in between that have
Speaker 1: a coslla agitating different things, you know, just run and
Speaker 1: the only person that I've come out very vocal is
Speaker 1: always magic because he used to always talking nonsense about me.
Speaker 1: Under maybe Magic was about mar Yeah, I mean you
Speaker 1: gonta understand bls. Magic was first and then here I
Speaker 1: come on. And then first I was going after my cousin.
Speaker 1: So when they he said, yo, who this guy down
Speaker 1: to down here? And Jazzi? Who Jaggi rack Jazzie jerking there?
Speaker 1: So y'all started this game radio. So when I came on,
Speaker 1: who this guy here? This new guy, this red guy
Speaker 1: red what red dirt? He called me red dirt? He said,
Speaker 1: just Woody with Peca, you know, and I've never given um.
Speaker 1: I came to the program at the time and I said,
Speaker 1: you know, man, Magic is dissing me. He started laughing
Speaker 1: at me. I'm getting mad now because you know I'm not.
Speaker 1: And you're on the same program. You're on the same station.
Speaker 1: This is a different state, different okay, So I go
Speaker 1: back at him. Wouldn't let you dis some back? No? No, see,
Speaker 1: I wasn't vocal yet because him adance. When I used
Speaker 1: to do, I used to be prerecorded. I should be
Speaker 1: on from eleven to two in the morning, so it's
Speaker 1: just prerecorded, okay. So I wasn't vocal yet it wasn't live.
Speaker 1: But I was getting mad because he'd been thising me.
Speaker 1: So here with this, I'm telling my program back to
Speaker 1: you're like laughing. I'm like, why do you laughing? You say,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. You guys got right to
Speaker 1: be mad. But same time he doesn't you. He's advertising you.
Speaker 1: So now here with everybody gonna wonder who is this
Speaker 1: person he keeps talking about, and they're going to turn
Speaker 1: the down. So I learned to swallow every time somebody
Speaker 1: coming to me in the street, Yo man, magic this,
Speaker 1: and yo man, he said, I'm heeding inside. But I
Speaker 1: got ahold man. And then you know that changing. And
Speaker 1: then here I had a partner coming seven months after me.
Speaker 1: After I'm on kicks up here come Chuck, chill out.
Speaker 1: So now I brought me and Chuck back and forth.
Speaker 1: You know, after magic me, I still know very little
Speaker 1: about Molly, not much about Molly at Molly's Magic. Many
Speaker 1: friends at least on the same station too, right, okay,
Speaker 1: bls now, before the Bridge War, it was the roxand Roxan.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, just called it the Bridge Wolf. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: make some moisture that I like that. Okay, let's go
Speaker 1: um here. It is um during the Rock and roxan.
Speaker 1: I know that I'm credit breaking u TFO Rock and
Speaker 1: roxand even though they tried to credit it so name
Speaker 1: right after and got a female to go after you TF.
Speaker 1: I'm hanging out Russell Simmons office like the floors rush
Speaker 1: producheon and at the time, who comes stepping through with
Speaker 1: Spider D. You heard the Spider D. Spider D. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta do your homework. Do my homework too, got
Speaker 1: them out. Spider D came in. He was one of
Speaker 1: the artists for Russell. Okay. He came with a young
Speaker 1: lady and he said, you need to hear this, so
Speaker 1: he popped the tape in and listened to It is
Speaker 1: the lady going after Sean Tay. Wait all right, okay, continue,
Speaker 1: continue after the ladies going out to Shante. I laid
Speaker 1: everybody the name of Sparky D. Okay, okay, Sparky D.
Speaker 1: It's called Sparky's train. So we we gotta get this going.
Speaker 1: We gotta make this happening, and going looking for labors,
Speaker 1: everything but over the label was set up. Sparky turn
Speaker 1: the mind said, but I don't have a DJ. She
Speaker 1: turned around and looking at me she said, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be my DJ. I said, okay, I was at the
Speaker 1: white pictures of simple like that, simple like so now
Speaker 1: here it is. I'm on the road with her. And
Speaker 1: who was on the road with Shante was and she
Speaker 1: sharing he used the DJ for Shawn heard that. So
Speaker 1: we was always rivals, but we always stuck together no
Speaker 1: matter what, because I look at it this way. We
Speaker 1: may be rivals on the radio, but were out of time.
Speaker 1: We're from New York and anything go down, forget all
Speaker 1: that nuns together? Yes, yes, got it's what and now
Speaker 1: only that I remember one time, a couple of times
Speaker 1: flying time who was their manager? Where's my moment? So
Speaker 1: that's how close we was. So after the Rocks and
Speaker 1: Roxan died down, here come the bridge. Now she had
Speaker 1: made the bridge during this time from when I learned
Speaker 1: that um Scottland rock West in Priest and Chris was
Speaker 1: coming upproaching Magic about something and he just like So
Speaker 1: they got mad because they had it. There was on
Speaker 1: the labels sneaping bad records, but the label dropped them,
Speaker 1: so they run their head and got with another label,
Speaker 1: Rock Candy Records informed themselves as Boogie Down Production and
Speaker 1: made this song, which I think was less than a
Speaker 1: hundred dollars called South Bronx. South Bronx was the answer
Speaker 1: to the bridge. So now here it is, I'm in
Speaker 1: Latin Quarters. I'm hanging out in that quarters on Celebrity Tuesdays.
Speaker 1: Not the original Latin Quarters. I the one the ninety
Speaker 1: street right, No, the original that's down on forty seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you saw a part of it arms sub destruction with
Speaker 1: film in front of that. Um great flaws. Love it.
Speaker 1: Here it is Celebrity Tuesdays orsome too, and they had
Speaker 1: a guy named Dja. He played so here comes Scott
Speaker 1: and Chris. They coming in and they have you know
Speaker 1: what the ASCID tape is, right, that's like a hard
Speaker 1: plate before become vinyl. Yeah, like the stamper before the stamper,
Speaker 1: after the stamper. Isn't that the metal part? It's really
Speaker 1: hard and you only get a couple of plays until
Speaker 1: where is out? That's what dump plates are made on
Speaker 1: the right. I don't know none of that, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Chinese to be right now, should they pass the ASCID
Speaker 1: tape over to the we put it on. People responded
Speaker 1: so crazy before they went to the end, he said, yo,
Speaker 1: go to pay this from the beginning again it was
Speaker 1: the South South Bronzy, body going crazy over it. So
Speaker 1: after that, here it is. That's when they gave it
Speaker 1: to me. This is for you to play on the radio.
Speaker 1: So now here it is, mind you, I'm still battling
Speaker 1: back and forth with them, right. Another thing is I'm
Speaker 1: playing a lot of records that Shan is on and
Speaker 1: whatever other songs that money was producing. Because I always
Speaker 1: learned one thing. You may be my rival, but you
Speaker 1: give me ammunition for me to play against you. So
Speaker 1: I'm playing them hits. So when I set it up
Speaker 1: for that first time, I'm playing to the Bridge right
Speaker 1: when they playing the Bridge first, and then the South Bronx.
Speaker 1: So when it came to the courts front saying to
Speaker 1: the Bridge, I know South bron South South Bronce that
Speaker 1: woke up in that woke up makes a noise for
Speaker 1: you starting to beat. So then after that hip hop man.
Speaker 1: So that after that, that's when sham in her head
Speaker 1: and he made this record going to and that's when
Speaker 1: the next one came out by the bridges over let
Speaker 1: me wat should I say? What do you know? We
Speaker 1: can need need sharing on this show to be fair
Speaker 1: on this show. So I swear to god I was
Speaker 1: too young to notice was kill that noise considered a hit.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm being honest, and I'm being honest too, because
Speaker 1: I'm not saying being bied because of who I'm down.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't hitting like that. It wasn't It wasn't bridge.
Speaker 1: The bridge was hidden. Okay, the bridge was hidden. Then
Speaker 1: South France hitting killed That noise didn't hit the bridges
Speaker 1: over it was hitting the bridge was overkilled to bring that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say that. So I understand how you feeling
Speaker 1: because where were you from? From Queen's Yes, from Queens.
Speaker 1: But that's what I need to know. I need to
Speaker 1: know what I need a little. I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 1: probably Queens. Yeah, I'm not moving on because I really,
Speaker 1: I really like as a child, I remember it, but
Speaker 1: I don't remember it to the to the extent. What
Speaker 1: what what? What? Years? These records came out eight seven,
Speaker 1: This is my eighties seven, eighties six, and I'm born
Speaker 1: in seventy seven, so I'm literally ten years old. I
Speaker 1: know I'm following, but I'm not knowing. I'm following. What
Speaker 1: I did remember was it made those that record made
Speaker 1: the tough people from Queens be tough because yeah, because
Speaker 1: if you ran around he was like, I didn't hear
Speaker 1: pete from a place called Queens. That's fighting words, Like
Speaker 1: you're not trying to be cool with me by saying that,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean. So they made a
Speaker 1: lot of people tough from that ship. So there was
Speaker 1: a lot of artists from Queen's and I was banging
Speaker 1: their song. But let me ask you, let me ask
Speaker 1: you something. And this is this is also real talk,
Speaker 1: right because we had care rest one on here, right,
Speaker 1: he was going on the ship. We haven't been able
Speaker 1: to get SCE. We love you Shan. Please stop thinking
Speaker 1: it's crazy about us, but we haven't had it had
Speaker 1: Shan on here. But every time I see Shan, all
Speaker 1: care of us actually speak about it. Although it's not
Speaker 1: fighting words. It's like I don't think they could ever
Speaker 1: be friends. I feel that they've shared the stage since
Speaker 1: the man you can share the stage versus they trying
Speaker 1: to kill each other. I think that in versus this,
Speaker 1: she was not a celebration no more actually feeling it's
Speaker 1: a love hate relationship between the booth. For that, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say like that, because now ain't
Speaker 1: that think about it years later? Commercials and ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so here it is, you get together and make commercial
Speaker 1: to make a couple of a couple of dollars. That's business.
Speaker 1: One thing ain't got nothing to do with together. But
Speaker 1: you know why I say that's a little different with
Speaker 1: them because neither one of them think either one lost.
Speaker 1: They both they won to eat your own Yeah, I
Speaker 1: even had their own opinion. Yeah, you know, they have
Speaker 1: their opinion and the audience have their picks. That's I
Speaker 1: guess that's what matters. Are you a fan of versus versus? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I like versus? Which one he was a fair of versus?
Speaker 1: It's hard to say because I did not fully look
Speaker 1: at each of every one of them the whole full thing.
Speaker 1: But so you know, I'm always school school hard. I
Speaker 1: love that versus when I saw it aslet fire very
Speaker 1: very now, I did not see the whole full thing
Speaker 1: of job and fat Joe and got your back. Huh
Speaker 1: we got your back? Yeah, we got me? Where were
Speaker 1: you from? You know? That's both both of my brothers also,
Speaker 1: and that I felt bad about that. Look joh and
Speaker 1: Joe was really they're really brothers, like you know, I'm
Speaker 1: just playing like you know, although mass majority of saying
Speaker 1: you know, John run that, but dip set and and
Speaker 1: the lots. It almost felt like although I've never been
Speaker 1: to the original Latin Quarters, which how y'all described the
Speaker 1: Latin Quarters, how I've been to the ton of it
Speaker 1: felt it felt. It didn't felt like we was in
Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty one at all. It felt nineties ish,
Speaker 1: like they had all the dudes on stage and everyone
Speaker 1: knew to respect each other, like stay on each other side,
Speaker 1: even though they went a little too far certain instances.
Speaker 1: But everyone was thinking about the bag and it really
Speaker 1: really felt like hip hop, Like it felt like when
Speaker 1: I've seen who was who was it Melly Melon and
Speaker 1: them against each other on stage and it wasn't Grandmaster
Speaker 1: Cast his crew against uh comin Yeah. Yeah. It reminded
Speaker 1: me of that. I'm looking and I'm like, and I
Speaker 1: remember Grandmaster Cast saying yo. He's still saying yo. He
Speaker 1: thought he won. But the crowd, he said, the crowd
Speaker 1: was with them more because you know, they were they
Speaker 1: were pretty are they help? Yeah more, I don't take
Speaker 1: the clothes or some ship and for me to see
Speaker 1: that and then the dip Set, the Locks. It reminded
Speaker 1: me of real pure hip hop, even down to the
Speaker 1: point of praying out the fact that they was rhyming
Speaker 1: over certain records, rhyming over the vocals and just pointing
Speaker 1: that out, like yo, bro, that's cheering, Like you ain't
Speaker 1: supposed to be rhyming on that. Even like point that
Speaker 1: that reminded me of real I remember, I could not
Speaker 1: perform with my vocals on like I would have did
Speaker 1: that the crowd would have told me immediately, know what
Speaker 1: was that? Like, you know, reached back to the dip set.
Speaker 1: They from my town hall. I love each of every
Speaker 1: one of them. And you gotta understand that the Locks,
Speaker 1: them guys are battling them seas, yea, every one of them.
Speaker 1: You know here it is dip set. They got no stout, swag,
Speaker 1: everything built around, but the tactics is different. That's the
Speaker 1: best way I could put it right. And um, I
Speaker 1: think I think I think the Brotherhood played a part
Speaker 1: of it too, Like I think from what I heard,
Speaker 1: uh Tips that had three different DJs yeah and the
Speaker 1: one Yeah. The individual seas had their own DJ yeah
Speaker 1: like that and they had one. So it just I
Speaker 1: know I always say this word wrong, but it just
Speaker 1: reminded me of having that good comment. What was it
Speaker 1: called camaraderie colmorad. Yeah, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like when you're all on the same level like um.
Speaker 1: But like I said, I just love the fact that
Speaker 1: they kept it hip hop, you know, um yeah, definitely
Speaker 1: it was good for New York. Right, So let let
Speaker 1: me bounce around. So how do you and Molly like
Speaker 1: squads to be after later on their life? Well, you
Speaker 1: know the funny Parker called Marty and I started working
Speaker 1: together at seven okay cool? And here it is from
Speaker 1: Hot nineties seven for for men. I was over at
Speaker 1: power room or five. I know, I've been at all
Speaker 1: four stations urban stations that you know, nay n N
Speaker 1: seven kiss, Hot ninety seven, power chore like goddamn check.
Speaker 1: That's a hustler's hustler right there. As Marty and I
Speaker 1: got closer over at power Room five, Momy used to
Speaker 1: already say, you remind me of this guy. You remind
Speaker 1: me this guy every time you were saying, because I've
Speaker 1: come out with during the abbreviations the acorns, you know,
Speaker 1: like you know your job motherfucker or pay your making,
Speaker 1: manage what the funk out of here? So I got
Speaker 1: that from somebody my family. So he said, you know,
Speaker 1: entertained you to the abbreviation money or something. And then
Speaker 1: when he mentioned about that he was in a six
Speaker 1: huntry school, I say, brother, cut you? He said your brother.
Speaker 1: I told him my brother's name. He said, that's your brother.
Speaker 1: I said yeah, because if he never mentioned six hundred school,
Speaker 1: I would never know where you get that phone. So
Speaker 1: we make a noise for six hundred schools right now? Huh?
Speaker 1: Are we gonna make some noise for the six hundred schools?
Speaker 1: All right there? I don't know, I don't know New York.
Speaker 1: This is the school to prepare you for jail because
Speaker 1: they don't have no girls in there. You you go
Speaker 1: with there's no girls, This baby jails. JA like, as
Speaker 1: we're speaking on that real quickly, what's the the trade
Speaker 1: six terms of school? And the school may have the
Speaker 1: people that's in the show up us. Oh damn. I've
Speaker 1: been in both, so I could probably because you know
Speaker 1: this bad then this is was in the resource room
Speaker 1: and special a. You know what that is? Resource? You
Speaker 1: know resource room? Resources? When UNIQ spec without they got
Speaker 1: a holler at the Hall of y'alla, you know, but
Speaker 1: most of us say, we aren't here for behavior. Nobody said, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I'm sucking out, you know. I mean, but I was
Speaker 1: on both wall right now in the school system. Let's
Speaker 1: make some noise for the school system. So you're molly,
Speaker 1: I talked about six hunt in school, and that's why
Speaker 1: I got to see the connection where he saw I
Speaker 1: was getting them says from from my clause, my blubber.
Speaker 1: You surprised do that teaching and he was in the
Speaker 1: um um No, he was just in the um is
Speaker 1: if you're a gym teacher, you know help um physical. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know that's what you got through. So did
Speaker 1: you all? Because because you know, you know, I imagine
Speaker 1: like like once in the Blue Jay ands to be
Speaker 1: like you remember remember when we went through Like I
Speaker 1: imagine like just you know, like did you and BALI
Speaker 1: ever just like you see the ship that we've been through,
Speaker 1: like ever talked about it. I never really really And
Speaker 1: we've been racking together for a wild because married fact,
Speaker 1: you know, before this pandemic, we was doing this thing
Speaker 1: for about good. Maybe we asked the brother right here,
Speaker 1: how many how many years were doing the old school
Speaker 1: reunions years? I many, Molly and Lance about nine of
Speaker 1: the twelve years. It was me rest in Peace, DJ
Speaker 1: Lance and Molly muh And when me and Marty was
Speaker 1: wrecking together during that time as well being on the radio,
Speaker 1: we didn't think about all that nonsense. We're working. Really.
Speaker 1: I imagine like one time, like you would have had
Speaker 1: a bill, but you should drink juice. Drink it's a name,
Speaker 1: it's a nickname that was given. First I used to
Speaker 1: drink Viccardi and coke. Yeah, yeah, that's back then. They're
Speaker 1: invest in piece of my mother. She said, you're drinking
Speaker 1: that cheap stuff. I say, what you're talking to my mom?
Speaker 1: You're gonna drink drink the best top shelf. Go and
Speaker 1: get Maya's room. So I started to Maya's room. First
Speaker 1: I tried but coke, like yeah. Then I tried with
Speaker 1: cranberry juice. I like, take all right. Then when the
Speaker 1: violators sneaky d say you're a tried it pineapple. So
Speaker 1: then trying pineapple juice. Here it is first that came over,
Speaker 1: the nickname Poopoo was big voted the volators. Okay, it's poopoo,
Speaker 1: not poom poom. Guy said poom poom man, which is
Speaker 1: totally different. Poompum is totally different. Man just described it.
Speaker 1: I we used to say the poopoo juice. Okay, so
Speaker 1: that's where we had. Of course, I stopped drinking for
Speaker 1: about a year and a half. Now, okay, let's I'm
Speaker 1: drink four. You don't don't worry about it. J Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like you call it the nasty? What I used to drink? No,
Speaker 1: you you know that wasn't Wait a minute, I used
Speaker 1: to drink its nasty anything, but club was the nasty. No,
Speaker 1: what club soda is with the nasty? You got the
Speaker 1: club soda from? No, your ship was a club soda
Speaker 1: memory that I got to look even funny, I know
Speaker 1: how I got the nasty from It was me, you
Speaker 1: used to say. When I didn't get that from you,
Speaker 1: I got come up with you came up Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know exactly what I came up with that at
Speaker 1: that's what I was drinking it because he said that
Speaker 1: he lost weight, and I was like for real, and
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, just drinking, but sell a water And
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I think you should put pineapple
Speaker 1: back in that motherfucker, because that's this is horrible and
Speaker 1: that's what I called it, the nasty all right, Wember, Well,
Speaker 1: maybe be talking about drinking, all right, cool, but we
Speaker 1: one of your son is gonna come in to take
Speaker 1: a shot. One of yall drink or y'all to drink. Okay, alright,
Speaker 1: I don't have both of them coming with a little cool.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do quick time with slime. Come on, yeah,
Speaker 1: do we have greip time and slim? Okay? Cool? Alright, cool?
Speaker 1: And we got a drink too in this game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we drink too. The fact that us making a drinking
Speaker 1: and not I don't have the glass, but I got them. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is for y'all. Okay, Oh yeah, yeah, what's that
Speaker 1: red alert? What is that? Oh my god? Go ahead
Speaker 1: for you. Okay, let me open it up for you.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Okay, that's big. All. Good to
Speaker 1: meet you. I got definitely we got the shorts food
Speaker 1: that I have on Okay, got master retroll? Ye, yes,
Speaker 1: doing that day, Thank you very much. Should I want
Speaker 1: you to told me before I put it over? We're
Speaker 1: giving gifts? Oh yeah, we're giving gifts. We give a gift,
Speaker 1: come on, Yes, that boblem Oh my man, thank you.
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah. So that guy said this is the
Speaker 1: oldest rob. Who's the one day you said here on
Speaker 1: the radio? Okay before we start the game, Yes and everyone, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's he's artist. Oh that's what's up both for y'all,
Speaker 1: sottell So alight, yeah, let's do this. Yep, the third
Speaker 1: guest to get roses from it up. Yeah, you're literally
Speaker 1: giving people their roses when they get here. So these
Speaker 1: roses last a few years. Strange, good, open it up.
Speaker 1: You literally had to give your roses. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, I got you, I got some ship.
Speaker 1: I don't want to break my ship because I'm gonna type. Right,
Speaker 1: So we got the shots out. What you want to do?
Speaker 1: You want to drink? You're into? All right? Cool, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a couple, right, Cool. This is this is
Speaker 1: it's called quick Time with Slim is a game. So
Speaker 1: you gotta take the shots for your pots. So it's cool.
Speaker 1: So um, all right, so just how it goes. We're
Speaker 1: gonna give you our two choices. You can pick one
Speaker 1: or the other or whatever he picked, whatever he picked.
Speaker 1: So if he picked, if he picked both, you both
Speaker 1: gotta take a shot. If he picked one, then't either
Speaker 1: one of you gotta take a shot. All right. We're
Speaker 1: drinking with him and we're drinking with him, so we
Speaker 1: try yeah. Cool. Yeah, so if you're politically correct, you
Speaker 1: pick both. We're drinking about cool. Yeah, we got you,
Speaker 1: we got you, we got you. Drink. Yeah, you ain't
Speaker 1: gotta drink all right, So but this is for you.
Speaker 1: We're gonna ask you the question. I mean, however you
Speaker 1: ask it. Then Dictator drinking habits right, yeah, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna stop being you never get the first one?
Speaker 1: Jay z or nas you can pick both now, right,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Okay, shot monster you can't come
Speaker 1: on back? Yeah you don't. Don't leave the witness, don't
Speaker 1: lead do it? That got cash sign stomach? Yeah all right,
Speaker 1: that's what I don't know. Neither Biggie or Big Punt Biggie. Okay,
Speaker 1: Mr Magic or Molly Marr Magic. Okay, Funk Flex or
Speaker 1: Kick Apri kick Capri. I'm gonna tell you right, I
Speaker 1: need to know. While from Flex is my man, I
Speaker 1: love him to death, but Kick Capri is so chasmatic
Speaker 1: and so you know, skillful day he brings it to
Speaker 1: the table b DP or the juice crip b DP. Okay, Dad,
Speaker 1: alright DMX or tupap drink up? Who DMX the dog
Speaker 1: your Dogs Dog Hot ninety seven or Power one oh
Speaker 1: five Hot seven. I love how you that's very confident.
Speaker 1: He didn't even think about that. He's gorun straight with
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot for that. I don't even
Speaker 1: know why. No, I know I was at Power for
Speaker 1: five years, and I know that Power woke up Hot
Speaker 1: ninety seven because at one point they said they was
Speaker 1: only game in town. Yeah he's too last. They had
Speaker 1: no competition. But then here it is came over. You know,
Speaker 1: hm as you see where it is at now, MTV
Speaker 1: raps or rap City. Oh, I gotta say MTV Raps
Speaker 1: because it was the door opener and it's set the
Speaker 1: pace for many other people. You know, no disrespect. I
Speaker 1: wish you would have put video music back instead of
Speaker 1: rapp City. We converould say video music box. And at
Speaker 1: the guys who write the questions like yeah, that's right,
Speaker 1: got a documentary commend Yeah, hell you pig you up.
Speaker 1: Ralph mcdanie something you need him on? Drink Champion juice
Speaker 1: so Boys in the Hood. Damn. I mean he's in one.
Speaker 1: So that's the way you in Juice. You got no choice.
Speaker 1: But I don't know about God. He's the party bar
Speaker 1: the party by Boys in the Hood. I'm taking the shot.
Speaker 1: You pick the wrong one. You're going Boys in the Hood.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why. Okay, I need to know
Speaker 1: why Boys in the Hood. You think about something that
Speaker 1: show the side the other side of the United States
Speaker 1: that a lot of people don't know what relate to
Speaker 1: day by day. Now, we saw a piece of it
Speaker 1: from Colors, but they took it to another standard after Juice.
Speaker 1: It's what we already know. So that's why I'm picking
Speaker 1: Boys in the Hood because it puts something different to
Speaker 1: the table. He's John saying, that's the piece John Sick
Speaker 1: or digital days, Oh my god, he's a hard podcasts
Speaker 1: or radio radio Carovessel. Are you serious? This is my engine?
Speaker 1: And produce the questions? Man, they get corner I got
Speaker 1: and not because I've worked with him, but we already
Speaker 1: know look at the catalog. Okay, one, okay, okay, and
Speaker 1: fat just me another question too. By the way, um
Speaker 1: Queen Teeth for MC light, who you know I was like,
Speaker 1: you brought that up because people forget that. How skill
Speaker 1: food crean tell one of the illests. You know, I
Speaker 1: understand she took it too many heights and I respect
Speaker 1: her now she trail Blaze, but that my game was
Speaker 1: so mean and I still don't know the answer that.
Speaker 1: I feel like we could drink to that. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: drink to that. Don't worry. You gotta bust your brain.
Speaker 1: And nine is a beast because I know there's guys
Speaker 1: who don't even want to go against like, wow, wow,
Speaker 1: you got drinks. Yeah, I'm ready for that. I'm ready
Speaker 1: to solo solo solo. Listen and our show we celebrate
Speaker 1: our legends, and you're one. We want to sell a
Speaker 1: break too, solo. Motherfucker spect man, spect. We ain't done
Speaker 1: yet right now, this one. I definitely don't know what
Speaker 1: you're gonna say. Yeah, I kind of do know. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure though it's been you've been even fooling me lately.
Speaker 1: Eighties or nineties hip hop eighties. Okay, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you why. I need to know why, because you got
Speaker 1: me to be where i'm at. Got that not even
Speaker 1: it's a blessing, Okay, l L or Komo d L
Speaker 1: L the longest lasting hip hop recording artists and modis
Speaker 1: my man, you are from harm and I respect MODI,
Speaker 1: but L L showed his diversity. What did you call that?
Speaker 1: The longest lasting hip hop recording artists? You know, think
Speaker 1: about it. Grandmother and granddaughter can go to an L council.
Speaker 1: Grandmother can sing I need love, granddaughter singing hespron Look
Speaker 1: at this fan of how many years? That's the analogy,
Speaker 1: that's true. I didn't know what came out with eighty
Speaker 1: five hespernd came out two thousand five. Yet year Now
Speaker 1: if him, it is if the mother's daughter had a
Speaker 1: child and that was about maybe become like you know,
Speaker 1: going on ten years become twenty years old. The grandmother
Speaker 1: at the time from them thirty years, she was the
Speaker 1: one that was rocking. They both can go to an
Speaker 1: L L consent. That's yeah, that's the ill point, Max Pose.
Speaker 1: I love the balls, alright, this one, this one, I
Speaker 1: don't know. No, I think, I think, I don't know
Speaker 1: you're gonna go with this one heavy dal Or your
Speaker 1: rock man, Damn why are you doing? And I love
Speaker 1: both and they both are so creative. Damn you ain't
Speaker 1: got the forces you know we are. We don't mind
Speaker 1: taking a shot. He damn right. I love when people
Speaker 1: can stay. You can pass the bottle. Rest of you
Speaker 1: start start problems. Question we stop to both of them. Yeah, respect,
Speaker 1: you know they both went that. I respect about both
Speaker 1: of them. Lyrically, they know how to go high or low.
Speaker 1: They can take it a hide hide up tempo and
Speaker 1: a dance matter, and they can bring low as a flow.
Speaker 1: Not too many mcs can do that. Too many can
Speaker 1: do that, and them too, They make it happen. Solute,
Speaker 1: motherfucker Reid. Respect all loyalty. Huh, Respect all loyalty. No,
Speaker 1: you just got me thinking about what my son already
Speaker 1: say now and then I gotta say respect, respect all
Speaker 1: a long way. No, you may get caught out there.
Speaker 1: That was deep. We'll see it. Get you're killing, kill
Speaker 1: what you're getting moment it's five as well. It's fire scarface,
Speaker 1: ice cube the quem okay public enemy or n W
Speaker 1: a public enemy dog open this Kanye Wessel for for
Speaker 1: well primo or large pro primo large pro goddamn. And
Speaker 1: they both beasts. They're both in beast. No, and they
Speaker 1: don't get there just they don't get their just we
Speaker 1: have Primo on here, but we need large prof We
Speaker 1: need Primo back. Yeah no, they both bad. Motherfucking show y'all.
Speaker 1: Sip alright, cool, cool stunt. I tell you we got
Speaker 1: one more. Yeah, got me sweat, Yeah, man, this is
Speaker 1: what we're going. So I just we'll take a shot
Speaker 1: first and then my actual last one. Again, this is
Speaker 1: the motherfucking red alert man for you. All the contributions
Speaker 1: you gave to hip hop, We love you. We want
Speaker 1: to give your flowers in your face and tell you
Speaker 1: how important and how great you are to this society,
Speaker 1: to this government of our own, to our community. This
Speaker 1: is what you mean to us. We love you. Motherfucking
Speaker 1: drink champs over here, solo. Okay, the last one, Dr
Speaker 1: Dre or paul uh Dr Dre puff. I gotta say
Speaker 1: Dre hmm. I wasn't prepared for that one. Why why
Speaker 1: the history that Dre have from man, he was with
Speaker 1: world class crew, Yeah, and had transd to so many
Speaker 1: of the different entities, and none had to evolve from
Speaker 1: row to aftermath, from ruthless to death, Row to afternoon.
Speaker 1: I forgot ruthless. Supreme, he's the brain, He's the brain
Speaker 1: because he makes pump is a person that can take
Speaker 1: the teep a bottle of cash from make it look
Speaker 1: like it's the biggest seller. That's how clever he is.
Speaker 1: He's a marketing gene, you know, and he makes it happen.
Speaker 1: But Dre and for being behind the board, he's the
Speaker 1: one that really makes that happen. You want extra question
Speaker 1: right because you just answered that too too easy? There's
Speaker 1: one extra question. You don't have to. We don't have
Speaker 1: to take a shot unless you'll want. You don't have to.
Speaker 1: But pop Daddy is saying ja Jermaine Dupris and even
Speaker 1: in his class, I heard about that, about that what
Speaker 1: do you think? You know? I'm gonna tell you something
Speaker 1: because during that time or three of them were just
Speaker 1: speaking about they was the power set of that ever hard?
Speaker 1: You know, Jermaine, a lot of people don't know have
Speaker 1: been producing a long time too. And right the Criss
Speaker 1: Course album. Yeah, I mean you know, I remember the
Speaker 1: fact that he made me jump. That he made me jump.
Speaker 1: Now he got there was a group that he had
Speaker 1: produced that that never came out. Course, Silk Time Level
Speaker 1: that came out. Should that show you that the limp
Speaker 1: of Town how long he's been putting in. I know
Speaker 1: that he's very clever bringing the youth to make them stars.
Speaker 1: Cris course she was rat you know, yeah that's dope.
Speaker 1: But who are you picking, Jermaine Depre puff daddy, Damn
Speaker 1: you m t am taking that one. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: a shot for no matter what you were, matter what
Speaker 1: answer you give pastor I'm gonna take a shot no
Speaker 1: matter what as do you give your main or like,
Speaker 1: I actually want to see it now because I just
Speaker 1: love the puff confidence. As he was saying, he was like, man,
Speaker 1: you're not even on my lovel Get doctor Dre on
Speaker 1: the phone, Doctor Drey on the phone. That probably go
Speaker 1: from zero to sixteen. Yes, so make it happen. Like
Speaker 1: I said, he's a great salesman. And by the way,
Speaker 1: we're also drinking summer strits. It's fired and you can
Speaker 1: watch as well. Yes, yes, so um not God got honest.
Speaker 1: You're sitting there, you want to watch the battle? Who
Speaker 1: you think will when if they was the battle j
Speaker 1: d j U. Yes, that would be very tough. It's
Speaker 1: a different kind of battle because they're not in the
Speaker 1: seas necessarily spitting and they both was on the records
Speaker 1: or three of them was on the record, But it's
Speaker 1: more about the records that they were part of the
Speaker 1: whole catalog, which that's the whole idea about them. Ask artists. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as artists here they can play records as they wrote
Speaker 1: and produced and had things to go with. So now
Speaker 1: if you know that actually a better question. You want
Speaker 1: me to ask you a better credit or easier question.
Speaker 1: How about that? Which out of the three, which would
Speaker 1: you want to see Puff against Dr Dre or or
Speaker 1: they gotta be prof Dre against one of them? Just
Speaker 1: pick any match about the three. Yeah, let's go back
Speaker 1: to the old school restamant when you put all the minium,
Speaker 1: that's what that. Yeah, I see who comes out number one? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I have it be Puff and Jermaine dupri
Speaker 1: and then Dre just comes in in the middle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is definitely vers So all right, who would you
Speaker 1: rather see Puff first j D or Puff verse J Dre.
Speaker 1: I'm taking a shot for God Puff and Dre, okay,
Speaker 1: because okay, I'll respect that answer. I'm taking a shot
Speaker 1: for that answer anyway. Slotle Sootle that damn salute. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I make it Dad, and they all three they all
Speaker 1: three gave me some great ammunition to be out there,
Speaker 1: you know, great songs and playing those records. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you give me the right animal, I mean out getting
Speaker 1: to feel real good. And that's three regions that they represented. Yeah, three, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is what Fat Joe said, Who invented DJ? Invented
Speaker 1: it invented? Yeah. I think that's a good question, But
Speaker 1: that come from he said, he said, you need names,
Speaker 1: like he's asking me to say that I need names.
Speaker 1: It's hard to say because before the culture that hip
Speaker 1: hop took place, it was DJ's. Before that, what they
Speaker 1: called DJ's but two turntables. I think I forgot what
Speaker 1: name they have been called, because they're the one that
Speaker 1: took the title from what a radio person was known
Speaker 1: in the beginning. He was knowing, he, she or they
Speaker 1: was known as DJ's in the beginning, and then the
Speaker 1: DJ came to them spending in the street in the clubs.
Speaker 1: That then they changed it from DJ to personalities, right right,
Speaker 1: like Martin, this is a person now that that person now,
Speaker 1: But he would have been back like he's saying, would
Speaker 1: have been back in the days called the DJ would
Speaker 1: have been called a DJ. They was and is deep
Speaker 1: to me, this is deep, ye, But no I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know who really started it. And I know
Speaker 1: that it evolved from like dance music disco when it
Speaker 1: really took forth more and more. You know who knows.
Speaker 1: Probably could have been the DJ's own radio in his
Speaker 1: past time. I could have been the borns that was
Speaker 1: playing one record, one banking after the novel and in
Speaker 1: a big club or a big no hall, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: They were the ones that was in place of a band,
Speaker 1: because you know, everybody was having bands when they saw
Speaker 1: the DJ at one time, they used to laugh at that.
Speaker 1: I get out of here. But then the band start
Speaker 1: fading the way in the DJ started coming stronger and stronger,
Speaker 1: and the craigs started coming to right, Oh did they here?
Speaker 1: But now I was gonna say, who if you know
Speaker 1: who perfected the looping of break beats? Those fly um
Speaker 1: you're talking about out to you keep it continuous. Flash
Speaker 1: to credit that I just wanted to flashes credit as
Speaker 1: the person that learned how to make a turntable into
Speaker 1: an instrument instrument. You know he was pushing that none
Speaker 1: he was he very He's like a geek in its
Speaker 1: own way. And make sure that it's tight doing like that. Sure, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So I got some more questions. This is from other people.
Speaker 1: Ya don't have to standard you don't want it, you can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah you want yeah? Please quick? Yeah you can grab
Speaker 1: a seat. Okay, okay, this is from DJ now, he
Speaker 1: asked why he Yeah, just makes just make sure not
Speaker 1: in front of any of those two cameras. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: stay the next one your family, yah, him why he
Speaker 1: picked me DJ enough obviously to be his apprentice after
Speaker 1: master Flex at Hot ninety seven. Because I'm curious shut
Speaker 1: out again? Please, I'm yea because I got a twist
Speaker 1: to this question, he said, asked him why he picked
Speaker 1: me obviously? This is DJ enough to be his apprentice
Speaker 1: after funk Flex started at Hot ninety seven after from
Speaker 1: Flexman deal. I'm needing another backup DJ every time we'll
Speaker 1: go away. You said that earlier, right, So I forgot
Speaker 1: to name the club. I think it's called the Aftergon.
Speaker 1: Remember Octagon Street on the West Side and this is
Speaker 1: ninety's Yeah that was like early nineties. Okay, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wasn't around early night was put Street from the Javis
Speaker 1: Center Okay, okay, right on the street. Jacob javits. Okay,
Speaker 1: so um, here it is that I was playing for
Speaker 1: the M series that's in the organization Rest in Peace,
Speaker 1: my man Miguel, and they hired me for that night,
Speaker 1: and they hired Enough, so I got to hear Enough
Speaker 1: for the very first time. And I was bevery and
Speaker 1: pressed and was was he DJ and for big at
Speaker 1: this time? Or no? No, no, no, no no. He
Speaker 1: was in DJ for nobody. You was just a DJ
Speaker 1: doing the clubs. And when I heard him, my life
Speaker 1: m I was in press. So after being no press
Speaker 1: and everything, that's when I stepped to the program that
Speaker 1: say I have another person that I have to take
Speaker 1: the next fot and that was enough to take Flex
Speaker 1: five Flex moved on the hot night seven. Okay, so
Speaker 1: here it is next person is enough? Okay, twist to
Speaker 1: this question, I had enough, I asked him. But his answers.
Speaker 1: But when I whenever I do an interview, I always
Speaker 1: go to Twitter, always go to it, And I asked,
Speaker 1: you know you got questions, you got whatever? One of
Speaker 1: the questions that fans repeatedly asked, how did Red fail
Speaker 1: when I think Enough I was supposed to be. I
Speaker 1: think he replaced you at seven and the fact is
Speaker 1: that he was your apprentice. So is this something that
Speaker 1: you're sitting back and saying, man, this was this was
Speaker 1: something bad? Or was this something you gave your blessing too?
Speaker 1: I was hurt. I'm gonna tell you what I was hurting.
Speaker 1: Not enough, but I was hurt in a certain part
Speaker 1: about enough, because he did not realize he was being
Speaker 1: used as the pawn to move me out the way
Speaker 1: as a person you bought in. We just okay and
Speaker 1: him it is by him not noticing that because he
Speaker 1: enough French were supposed to do the morning show for
Speaker 1: a strong book about to ask that. Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: know what took place of that, but then here it
Speaker 1: is he didn't I want to do it. So I
Speaker 1: know he spending time hanging around and programming. I know
Speaker 1: that there was number one. And I'm not gonna mention
Speaker 1: no names, but there's a person in programming that I
Speaker 1: never saw at AM. And I get long with everybody,
Speaker 1: I get long with racing everybody, and I mentioned no names.
Speaker 1: I went to far I not mentioned her name because
Speaker 1: for this right here, the name is not even worth
Speaker 1: coming out my mouth. Here it is knowing that it
Speaker 1: was shaking between me and that person and knowing that
Speaker 1: they want him because he was the fresh blood. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm a veteran that I don't know how many years.
Speaker 1: So they're looking at the moon too. So they took
Speaker 1: him and put him in place and me to move me.
Speaker 1: And that's what I became hurt, because you did the
Speaker 1: fire thing to utilize this guy, and this guy not realized,
Speaker 1: and he's being utilized for me to be removed, okay,
Speaker 1: And that's what I was hurtful a while. That's why
Speaker 1: he was at That's why I was hurt for a while.
Speaker 1: And now I have to ask because I gotta be
Speaker 1: you know, so where is because Flex is also a
Speaker 1: person you brought in this game. West Flex, West, Chuck
Speaker 1: chill out during all this happening, all the air telling
Speaker 1: you Flaster was still at the station, you know, Flexson
Speaker 1: doing the Chuck is over there at Kiss at the time.
Speaker 1: You know, Um, I know they told me that after
Speaker 1: they moved me out, did they say, now even you
Speaker 1: can go ahead and just through the twelve o'clock. Remember
Speaker 1: I had two ships and the old school noon and
Speaker 1: the five o'clocks you ride, they say you even can
Speaker 1: continue on the old school noon or you can go
Speaker 1: over there to kiss. So what I did. I took
Speaker 1: a break for about three months to clear my head
Speaker 1: and then I reconsidered coming back to kiss. And that's
Speaker 1: what that means. I'm like, you both want to say
Speaker 1: something good. I want to make sure you clear shift
Speaker 1: to shift to something else. Okay, you get you right,
Speaker 1: because I mean I just want to clear it up
Speaker 1: because that's where I god like, I'm sorry, so sorry,
Speaker 1: Like you know, Twitter is the most I don't want
Speaker 1: to say negative, but it's the most like straight to
Speaker 1: the point. Like so when I when I interview anybody,
Speaker 1: I don't go to the ground. I go I go
Speaker 1: to Twitter because Twitter gonna tell me everything. And what
Speaker 1: Twitter was like, yo, everyone always felt it was a
Speaker 1: certain move, one enough part that wasn't wasn't right, like
Speaker 1: like certainly it just wasn't right. And we have never
Speaker 1: really heard rad address that. You know what? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what's interesting about that people even acknowledge that that.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's the first question that was asked,
Speaker 1: even acknowledging caught that only years ago, right, they still earlier.
Speaker 1: One that surprised me a little bit that she said
Speaker 1: I thought she was capping a little bit. You said,
Speaker 1: Twitter said that, but no, no, no, no, I do that.
Speaker 1: I do that. I do that for every Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because Twitter just hits me right in them. And once
Speaker 1: again the perception of how people look at social media,
Speaker 1: like you say on on Twitter, people want to see
Speaker 1: the drama side and I'm not showing that, but I
Speaker 1: feel that it's not needed for what to fulfill your satisfaction.
Speaker 1: I n D. I'm not that, but that you're gonna
Speaker 1: stay stay on this and then because because I need
Speaker 1: to notice, right because Pat Joe used to say something
Speaker 1: to me like we still um like like you know,
Speaker 1: Fat Joe's person who put me like you know, after
Speaker 1: I'm settled in Miami, He's like, you go see everyone
Speaker 1: that comes to Miami like this is an advantage. And
Speaker 1: what he would do. I would see radio people and
Speaker 1: he would always be like, you're working in radio was
Speaker 1: so crazy because you can It's like working for the
Speaker 1: baseball Like you could work up tomorrow. They could be
Speaker 1: like you in Minnesota, you and utaw them all and
Speaker 1: like your job is that you either quit or you
Speaker 1: could keep going on your job over there. So a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand that that works like that
Speaker 1: everywhere else but New Yak. Like in New York, they
Speaker 1: want their people to talk to them. I remember, I
Speaker 1: remember when even Ebro came. It was like a whole
Speaker 1: campaign to get evil off the radio, like for real,
Speaker 1: it was like, we want to hear our own people
Speaker 1: and us excu excuse me. It wasn't even but it
Speaker 1: was Big Boy. You don't remember when Big Boys the
Speaker 1: morning show. Big Boy was doing New York radio for
Speaker 1: l A. He was giving l A traffic. So when
Speaker 1: you heard the actual morning show was being syndicated out there,
Speaker 1: they didn't. They wasn't catching on that that we're looking
Speaker 1: at there like, uh, you know, so across last scare's
Speaker 1: wait a minute, we don't know what last year nigger is, like,
Speaker 1: we don't these Bulevard And then we started to notice
Speaker 1: they're not even giving us a show. They're giving us
Speaker 1: a show that's recorded in l A. And it was
Speaker 1: just she was just crazy at one point. So what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I a lot of us don't know
Speaker 1: that part of it, right, So this is business, but
Speaker 1: it's still it's still personal, Like I don't care like
Speaker 1: a lot of people say, it's it's not business is personal.
Speaker 1: Like when you if you say a person's your apprentice
Speaker 1: and you you know, have flex, did you feel like
Speaker 1: like support for you at that time? Um, that's a
Speaker 1: good question. Whish I never thought of. Wish I never
Speaker 1: thought of. And I don't look for people with a
Speaker 1: back for me and they were back for me. That's
Speaker 1: on them. And I appreciate, appreciate you the fullest, but
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be like, look at hook me up now.
Speaker 1: I have learned over the period of time I've been
Speaker 1: on radio to earn my own If I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: had done that, I wouldn't be here as long as
Speaker 1: I've been that. So I have built relationship with many people.
Speaker 1: You know, I know I gave a lot of people
Speaker 1: gripe upon my decisions what I do, such as flame music,
Speaker 1: you know what moves ever made. But I'm looking at
Speaker 1: I had my vision. So for what is it that
Speaker 1: you're looking for me? So I says what you just say?
Speaker 1: Why I bred never give an opinion. I have no
Speaker 1: reason to give her opinion. That's differend myself to say
Speaker 1: that's real ship, that's real because from the outside looking in,
Speaker 1: it looked like Flex had your back. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know this. It looked like Flex had your back.
Speaker 1: It looks like what you said. They look at that too,
Speaker 1: the same Flex have my back? Because no, Flex I
Speaker 1: have and I have a very unique relationship, major respect
Speaker 1: from each other, you know, but that I don't know
Speaker 1: what say Flex have on that right? Nothing, because that's
Speaker 1: a lot of That's how a lot of people look
Speaker 1: at it. Like, Um, when people think of the background
Speaker 1: and seven, they don't think of Tracy. They don't think
Speaker 1: of the bros. They don't think of the what's my
Speaker 1: man name now, Poppy? Forget the guy no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he's he's he's not he's not management. Um. They don't
Speaker 1: think uh, like you know, the higher ups. They think
Speaker 1: of Flex. They think Flex is actually and really I'm
Speaker 1: not all do do respect to Flex. I don't think
Speaker 1: that he makes those decisions on the background. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I could be wrong. When you're
Speaker 1: in the public, guy, all kind of stuff is coming
Speaker 1: that you you know, they don't know the people that
Speaker 1: behind the desk and making the moves. You guys still
Speaker 1: answer to somebody. You know, we got less of what
Speaker 1: so I can't understand what they think of because for
Speaker 1: the left of time FLEX been there. But he don't shake.
Speaker 1: He make his moves. Then he feels that's best for him.
Speaker 1: They keep growing. He still got an answer to the
Speaker 1: higher up. Now you are enough. You'll ever talked about
Speaker 1: the situation or we never talked about what I did
Speaker 1: that when I came back to kids for the final
Speaker 1: time before a close down, leave him from power, I
Speaker 1: took it upon myself and step into the studio while
Speaker 1: he was on, and I apologize to him. Why would
Speaker 1: you apologize? I felt that, you know, I deserve to
Speaker 1: give him an apology because I was silent to him
Speaker 1: for a long period of time. I wasn't saying nothing
Speaker 1: to him. I wasn't, you know, because I felt I
Speaker 1: felt hurt. But at the same talk at the time,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take it to the over ankle. I
Speaker 1: just stayed away until I just get you. My health
Speaker 1: can't coming back over there. Let me go ahead and polish.
Speaker 1: And that's what I did. Yeah, that's good ship man,
Speaker 1: this is doing your radio talk. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, girl,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. She got deep man, your radio try deep Man.
Speaker 1: I was pulled in I was pulled. It was like
Speaker 1: a wall. I was like, oh, ship, that's just jumped there.
Speaker 1: So you know there's there's a lineage and an influence.
Speaker 1: I don't think people understand that comes from native tongue
Speaker 1: and that you're so instrumental in that. Can you speak
Speaker 1: about the birth of it. I have to give a
Speaker 1: lot of credit to the Jungle Brobbers Um the Jungle
Speaker 1: Brobbers from what I learned, the Jungle Brobbers and Daylight
Speaker 1: saw it got to Meatchop for the first time during
Speaker 1: the show. I think up Boston when they got to
Speaker 1: meet each other, they felt a similar vibe how they
Speaker 1: come across and what they do Africa and Mike g
Speaker 1: who is my nephew, my sister's son. They broke into
Speaker 1: Mary Bertram High School No part of Manhattan. Who was
Speaker 1: also in that school at the same time. You had
Speaker 1: q Tip, Yeah, Alice Shahi, they had you Robie, You
Speaker 1: had my man Uh from x Clam from ex Clam,
Speaker 1: j blobbo j and Wresting Piece of DJ for their
Speaker 1: sugar shop. That was always with school Mary Bercham Is
Speaker 1: this just still open? I don't know what school, just
Speaker 1: like the one the bust of us talking man. That
Speaker 1: was the school that you next to police. One police
Speaker 1: classis I don't want to bridge. So they all went
Speaker 1: to school there and you know, they was always interacting
Speaker 1: eaself against something going on. So I remember my nephews
Speaker 1: always say, yo, man, we want to make a record.
Speaker 1: We wanna make a record. So I thought it was jobbing.
Speaker 1: I didn't think they took him serious. But the first
Speaker 1: person who took them in Africa and Mike was my
Speaker 1: cousin Jos to his studio, you know that was up infront.
Speaker 1: She had a studio. He also had Strong City Records,
Speaker 1: so they did something. Then my man Tony d he
Speaker 1: had a group that came out a long time ago
Speaker 1: called Bad Boys before the label, and they made this
Speaker 1: record called Inspect the Gadget. Can you remember that? And
Speaker 1: that was under called bad Boys. Yeah, group called Bad Boys.
Speaker 1: Ricke Love who was considered the female beatbox. Um. So
Speaker 1: my man Tony was the DJ Slice producer. He said, hey,
Speaker 1: wait man, I just built the studio in my basement,
Speaker 1: you know, so anybody you wanted to bring a So
Speaker 1: that's when I threw on my nephew and they went
Speaker 1: ahead and start getting this stuff going on. Of course,
Speaker 1: you know, the first record they came out with everybody
Speaker 1: knew was Jim Browski Jim Brownsky. Yeah, and then after
Speaker 1: that because I gotta like that, you know, and then
Speaker 1: they just Camet Building Building, and then they formed the
Speaker 1: first album, Straight out the Jungle. On the on there
Speaker 1: was a record Call on the Run that was named
Speaker 1: a record Call on the Run. There was an album cut.
Speaker 1: Who featured on the album cut was q Tip, but
Speaker 1: his name was Cute Tip at that time. Um, I think,
Speaker 1: so okay. And then remember I just said to you
Speaker 1: about how Fat Joe and the Unite used to do
Speaker 1: programs for me, So you had q Tip doing program
Speaker 1: Hold on, you gotta relax. The younger Bubbers did a
Speaker 1: song called the Promo that was for the radioship, and
Speaker 1: then who was on the promo? What's q tip on
Speaker 1: their on their freestyle for the promo, and then it
Speaker 1: went to another set of a promo. Call in time
Speaker 1: grabbed everybody attention, the labelers, they said, you know, who
Speaker 1: just got a que chip? Who doesn't? And then really
Speaker 1: caught their attention because n q tip was on day
Speaker 1: l are so so on me myself and I called
Speaker 1: black is Black, called everybody attention, Yo, maybe we won't
Speaker 1: get the next guy. We got Daylight going on, we
Speaker 1: got young Brobber going on. We want to get the
Speaker 1: next guy. So they're went after Q Tip and that's
Speaker 1: when Q Tip being shocked around and wind up being
Speaker 1: on Jove Records, but his um, but his own partners
Speaker 1: and then for him trifical Quest. So now during that time,
Speaker 1: I'm getting real close to Mark, the forty five King.
Speaker 1: Respect the Mark, of course, absolutely he had the Flavor Unit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the consists that's in New Jersey Nation, New Jersey. And
Speaker 1: the group she had there was like t Shabaz, not
Speaker 1: Kim sabas um chill rob um, let's she peace my man,
Speaker 1: the patch huh Nordy by nature. There wasn't. It wasn't
Speaker 1: around yet, it wasn't. I'm not there yet. God Almighty
Speaker 1: Arts was a part of the really. No, they were
Speaker 1: managed though by them. They was managed by them, but
Speaker 1: that was laid only because they were in Boston. And
Speaker 1: then here come creen Chief you and I why I know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, just keep wrong time, wrong time like
Speaker 1: wrong time. Like. The first song she came out was
Speaker 1: called the Wrath for my madness. M hm. And here
Speaker 1: it is she a labelmate rid They're like so Tommy boy.
Speaker 1: So now here it is I have a relation with
Speaker 1: Mark relation. So she now drawing into what's going on
Speaker 1: amongst the groups and she getting in frond. Here it
Speaker 1: is jungle bobs run oversea for the first time, and
Speaker 1: Africa got involved with a young lady who was the top.
Speaker 1: And see you over there at the time, Mooney love
Speaker 1: should just be connection now shot coming now, meanwhile saying
Speaker 1: African bat bottom discovered. No, no, not African ban bottom, Africa. Okay,
Speaker 1: this band bottom and then you got Africa baby band.
Speaker 1: They both Africa. But no after baby, let's take another shot.
Speaker 1: I might make it worse. He got me man, he
Speaker 1: got me man. So like I said, so baby Beam
Speaker 1: connected with money Love in the UK because you know
Speaker 1: they got involved with each other. I don't know this
Speaker 1: part about money love. Yeah, really no money she was
Speaker 1: the top MC. I did too, and no one'll kill you.
Speaker 1: I just did marriage bootcamp with us. She killed she
Speaker 1: killed everybody different were playing around an start coming back
Speaker 1: over here. Meanwhile, before before that, when I was DJ
Speaker 1: for Sparky D, he was always hitting or throughout the
Speaker 1: north who was just in Rock, South Carolina, or that
Speaker 1: I came across this DJ who was like the battist
Speaker 1: in his part of town and they used to call
Speaker 1: him short. He do want so he wind up moving
Speaker 1: up to New York and he kept on telling me
Speaker 1: about this MC half he had they do sure do
Speaker 1: I have artists? Have an artist up in from Crim's
Speaker 1: and they got together, Sure you do want to change
Speaker 1: his name to Mr Long black Sheet and Long with
Speaker 1: dress black Sheet. And the reason they caught it up
Speaker 1: black Sheet before they was the outcast of the native tongue.
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I didn't know that you went
Speaker 1: to fast hold On, So why would they the outcast
Speaker 1: a native tongue? And so natives already native tongue. There's
Speaker 1: already native tongue. But you know you're from an attachment
Speaker 1: that comes a little different from them. If you're listening
Speaker 1: to how this out, it was at that time black Sheet.
Speaker 1: The next the next one that come ray after, who
Speaker 1: was considered the youngster of the whole tribe, and that
Speaker 1: came through Chris Liffek Baby Chris. You know why we're
Speaker 1: calling Baby Chris because it's because he wanted to know
Speaker 1: like you don't edit, so if so, I just thought
Speaker 1: about that. I was like, people feel that they call
Speaker 1: on baby Crypta because the faby face. He had the
Speaker 1: young face. But actually because remember I said there was
Speaker 1: another Chris in the valley and Chris Alee. So Chris
Speaker 1: Alee and Chris like Chris that he was younger than
Speaker 1: Chris hality, so we call him baby Chris. So he's
Speaker 1: the one that brought en that he became the factor
Speaker 1: and it was just formulated from its own. But I
Speaker 1: always give credit to his younger public Cordy initiate the
Speaker 1: whole thing from start. So was let me this is
Speaker 1: actually I know you asked the question now, but what
Speaker 1: I want to know is because it felt like it
Speaker 1: was a lous affiliation, but you were the figurehead that's
Speaker 1: on radio, that's kind of organizing it. Because what I
Speaker 1: always thought when they were all signed to you, that's
Speaker 1: that's not I don't know that, that's what I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like that no Trunkle Brothers and Trapical Questions signed
Speaker 1: to me and and black Sheet. Because I was an
Speaker 1: executive person, you had a native to just go round
Speaker 1: it off, round it off, Come on, come on, let
Speaker 1: me with that ve we gotta start humble, humbled. You
Speaker 1: know what that would do When I said in the
Speaker 1: beginning that there's a lineage and and there's there's a
Speaker 1: legacy and influence. I'm talking about Kanye, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: and there's probably I feel like Kendrick. I feel like
Speaker 1: there's so many people today that are influenced directly and
Speaker 1: indirectly by what Native Tongues was doing. That that's that's that,
Speaker 1: and it's a positive impact on hip hop because it
Speaker 1: was like it was like the guys that you know
Speaker 1: that's not a suckers, but they wasn't promoting violence, and
Speaker 1: everyone else was kind of like what they wasn't suck as.
Speaker 1: You can tell they wasn't. That's what made him even braver.
Speaker 1: They was gonna be this way promote positivity, but they
Speaker 1: wasn't suck as either. You know what it is really
Speaker 1: understand that the culture of hip hop resonate from the streets.
Speaker 1: We know that, so you're gonna have that element inside.
Speaker 1: Asked how the way you bring it to your table?
Speaker 1: But then there's some people to learn. How do we
Speaker 1: find it. It's like saying there's some people that's in
Speaker 1: the mob. Now you know the mob is all about,
Speaker 1: but they come about the suits that come to the
Speaker 1: table just about until forever. Notice, So that's what I'm
Speaker 1: saying about. You know, some of the people in hip
Speaker 1: hop culture you ain't got always in the beginning. You know,
Speaker 1: if you know what you're about, what you represent, then
Speaker 1: you just let it be. Damn. I forgot the other question.
Speaker 1: I had a good one, but I remember it. But
Speaker 1: let me ask you this one in the words of
Speaker 1: my man Biggie, did you ever think hip hop we'll
Speaker 1: take it this far? Yes? Or no? No? More more? Yes? More? Yes.
Speaker 1: The reason why I said the norm because there have
Speaker 1: been so much turbulence that happened along the way. Get
Speaker 1: into this journey, getting into this journey, and you always
Speaker 1: say to yourself quietly, you don't say that I allowed
Speaker 1: you say that. God, damny, we built all this up
Speaker 1: for this and we're going four apart, you know. But
Speaker 1: it's always see I'm find a way to submerge to
Speaker 1: the next factor. What it is. Um it took a
Speaker 1: vole for quote unquote them. How can I say the
Speaker 1: commercial world to accept embrace the culture? And I'm saying
Speaker 1: the coach is not just the music, but a little
Speaker 1: bit of everything. But it had to start with the music.
Speaker 1: It's not we won the fucking world. Hey, where you go?
Speaker 1: Hip hop is everywhere? Yeah, but I imagine it wasn't
Speaker 1: like that back there. No no, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: because mine remember but I was coming on. I was
Speaker 1: coming on in eleven to two in the morning. But
Speaker 1: when they saw having ratings was that's when they moved
Speaker 1: Chucking Eye down to a more prime time nine to twelve,
Speaker 1: up against Magic at the same time. And then here
Speaker 1: it is, you're form a hip hop station Hot nineties seven.
Speaker 1: That's all day hip hop. So that's not coming across
Speaker 1: to the majority. Remember it used to be late night
Speaker 1: shows for hip hop. Wasn't supposed to be like care
Speaker 1: for that's what brand the station. I don't know nothing
Speaker 1: about that in the beginning. Yeah, he was like the
Speaker 1: voice of the station and like seven when you first fall,
Speaker 1: I can't understand where you're coming from. Because the same
Speaker 1: thing they probably did with Dare CalCon and the same
Speaker 1: thing they did it kiss that firm Kisum Classic Odies,
Speaker 1: who was the voice for Kisser from at that time.
Speaker 1: Recipiece Barry White as a has after him Simpson. So
Speaker 1: you know you had that voice that show that where
Speaker 1: it represents. So that's why they why he probably used Chris.
Speaker 1: He represented hip hop fresh like you know, it washed away,
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. That's that's the way it looked like
Speaker 1: to me. Jedi mind Trick, I was a fan, so
Speaker 1: se Besalge that said, my favorite DJ Premier promo that
Speaker 1: he made for the read Lercature. Damn they made a
Speaker 1: whole song just for a promo. Premiere. Yeah, huh yea,
Speaker 1: let's talk about that, um premiere. You know when I
Speaker 1: had my office at the time, but the Lord production
Speaker 1: on twenty nine Street. Here it is a guy named
Speaker 1: Stuve find used to have Wild Pitch Records and Wild
Speaker 1: Pitch Records had the group called Game Store right long
Speaker 1: with your rob Ge and Main saw us a couple others.
Speaker 1: So um here it is that Premiere just took it
Speaker 1: upon himself because you know that everybody always making so
Speaker 1: many different promol songs for my show told about we
Speaker 1: we we We're gonna give the lecture his clarity. I
Speaker 1: got the idea of using him when he was a child.
Speaker 1: I got that from the legend that we can spider
Speaker 1: Web that was on Video New York when he was
Speaker 1: on BLS. Here's to have his twin sons and his
Speaker 1: daughter do promo swam. So by the time when I
Speaker 1: got on the radio, I wanted to do something that
Speaker 1: appeal to the young audience. Wow. Yeah, yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: family affairs. You know. Blue Ivy is like she just
Speaker 1: wanted to grab me like so like you like the
Speaker 1: first Blue, I like, yeah, that's super dope. But you
Speaker 1: know I already had these ideas ways to portray and
Speaker 1: be different and stand out. So that's what's part of
Speaker 1: the whole point back to what you're talking about. Premiere
Speaker 1: from Premiere and Gangster. You know Gangster I signed, So
Speaker 1: Pamier took it apart himself to make that promo for me.
Speaker 1: He said it was on Wild Pitch Records. Wild Picture.
Speaker 1: Uh huh was on Wild Picture that time. No, but
Speaker 1: live at the Barbecues Barbecue okay, okay, so that's where
Speaker 1: you first heard not right, uh huh. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something about Google Rest in Peace recipes.
Speaker 1: I remember the first couple of times Google used to
Speaker 1: come up to me at the station and bring me
Speaker 1: something to listen to. I'd be like, nah, you wasn't
Speaker 1: feeling it, but I didn't feel it. Yeah I was.
Speaker 1: You know, that's my quote to tell you, fine, bring
Speaker 1: up to me when I heard I need I needed
Speaker 1: to let me take a guess at with records. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take a guess. I forgot. I don't
Speaker 1: have it all right, cool and themony let me hear it.
Speaker 1: That's the one. The word I'm manifest. Damn, I would
Speaker 1: have been wrong. I'm glad I didn't guess that. You
Speaker 1: wouldn't have heard the record. You wouldn't have heard the record. Man,
Speaker 1: That's why questions you know what I think right know,
Speaker 1: over the years, that was mad at me because I
Speaker 1: know they put their rented and making music and such
Speaker 1: a search and bring you to me. But I've ever
Speaker 1: be honest. Yeah, you're helping. I've ever be honest and
Speaker 1: let you know if it's good or not. And some
Speaker 1: people think I was taking favorites. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not judging the person. I'm judging. But the song
Speaker 1: sound like. But let me ask you something because Funk
Speaker 1: Flex I I've seen funk Flex stand on this seeing
Speaker 1: people come up to Flex offer him money and flex, Nope,
Speaker 1: I play a record if it's dope and that's it.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been offered money so many a times?
Speaker 1: Come the time? Know, I told him I piped myself.
Speaker 1: I think you gotta make some noise for that. I love.
Speaker 1: Put Mike down, Mike down right, Yeah, go ahead myself.
Speaker 1: This is what I learned. Once you receive, you are
Speaker 1: being hunt yep. So I'm not gonna let nobody go
Speaker 1: and do that for me. I don't care how much
Speaker 1: you put it in. And they can call me stilly, stupid,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? But let me ask you. This
Speaker 1: is real talk. This is I see the guard. What
Speaker 1: is it like when a person come up to y'all
Speaker 1: to say, can you play this like I got, you know,
Speaker 1: two hundred or whatever? What is it? Your integrity feels
Speaker 1: like it's being taken away because I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel that as a insult. I feel that in suck
Speaker 1: because you feel like this is beautiful debate. But I'm
Speaker 1: taking I'm taking the bait. Okay, why I gotta take
Speaker 1: the bait mine and take what I believe in his crap,
Speaker 1: you know, disrespecting your credibility, you know, your credibility and
Speaker 1: shot oh, you ain't gonna play with d get paid
Speaker 1: for but not no, no, because I remember there was
Speaker 1: this DJ list that came out names his name, and
Speaker 1: I remember Flex being so proud not to be on
Speaker 1: this DJ list and and he kept expressing like, you
Speaker 1: know why people taking like and I don't remember what
Speaker 1: it was, but your name was not on the list
Speaker 1: and flex name was not on this. This is a
Speaker 1: list of DJs who took spread. This was at the time.
Speaker 1: I didn't care about the list from everywhere else. I'm
Speaker 1: New York, so I'm just looking at the list and
Speaker 1: flexwer the lists up. I don't know if you'll remember.
Speaker 1: Flets got on him, was like what are you doing
Speaker 1: about the Listen about the list? It was I guess
Speaker 1: it was a label somebody got fired or whatever. And
Speaker 1: just was like, Yo, look we got we got proof
Speaker 1: of us paying every certain people. And I want to
Speaker 1: ask that question, like why why, why is your integrity?
Speaker 1: And I'm almost positive Flex told me he got it
Speaker 1: from you, or he said that on the radio, like Brad,
Speaker 1: they never take no money. I ain't never taken no money.
Speaker 1: I'm almost positive I heard Flex say that and give
Speaker 1: you your problem for that. But more moost positive. I
Speaker 1: can't tell you I take you ninety percent. I remember
Speaker 1: him saying that I'm from my older radio two. This
Speaker 1: is not like so we can google this and we'll
Speaker 1: we'll make that. But why was it that you never
Speaker 1: broke your morals? You never broke your integrity because you're
Speaker 1: disrespecting yourself. Number one, you should change yourself for some
Speaker 1: that's like saying, who this you as an artist, I'm
Speaker 1: just making this as a compass. To do it, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't get paid just a certain amount of money, but
Speaker 1: you're not getting it because nobody want to give it
Speaker 1: to you until you get that one shot, and you
Speaker 1: get that one big Now you're looking for another number
Speaker 1: ain't gonna come here it is. I want my respect.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep my respect, So why should I take
Speaker 1: that one shot taken? And then before you know you
Speaker 1: got a reputation out of here, you put a cap
Speaker 1: on yourself. People know they can good boy you for
Speaker 1: three because the boy get around. One thing I learned
Speaker 1: about in the industry, Well you know I just took
Speaker 1: care of red for this. I said, I saw them
Speaker 1: do that too many others. I'm not gonna be in
Speaker 1: there you know. And not only that, There's have been
Speaker 1: times even records I did play, or they may say
Speaker 1: chromequol I broke you know. Um, they wanted to congratulate me.
Speaker 1: I say, no, I don't want nothing. You want to
Speaker 1: pay me, how may you do? I've been released part.
Speaker 1: I'd rather get paid like that for my services, not
Speaker 1: because of what I just played. Because as a DJ,
Speaker 1: you stop me if I'm wrong as a DJ, because
Speaker 1: you said this earlier. You said even it was my competition,
Speaker 1: if they had the hot ship. As a DJ, it
Speaker 1: was your job to supply to your audience, right, That's
Speaker 1: the whole point. One game got nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the other. Because I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you what it was. And now that my memory keeps
Speaker 1: coming back, it was Young and May's second record, and
Speaker 1: Young and May second record, New York felt like Young
Speaker 1: and May, who should have been behind her first record work,
Speaker 1: what about second record is just sucking be behind it?
Speaker 1: And there was a track actually track of DJ's that
Speaker 1: wouldn't play it because they didn't get no paper. Remember
Speaker 1: that's what I'm trying to tell you. That my memory
Speaker 1: brought it up. Yeah, that's my memory the summertime, Joiner,
Speaker 1: remember when the flex was going, I remember it was
Speaker 1: you were It was another recording that record, and I
Speaker 1: felt I felt like it was a stance that the
Speaker 1: DJs was taking. This isn't quiet. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Damn, I'm so glad. Please y'all to be
Speaker 1: mad at me, But I ain't dropping the record anyway.
Speaker 1: Let me bring your up. This happened during the time
Speaker 1: and happened now, he said it. It could be a
Speaker 1: collector of us all again the record the same time. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't really know individually who it was. And I
Speaker 1: got to word that. But you know what, niggas want
Speaker 1: to funk with this record, but they said they didn't
Speaker 1: want They got their hands out for it. Y I
Speaker 1: end up put my hands out for it. So now
Speaker 1: if I go ahead and I like this record and
Speaker 1: I played whoever was having their hand out, they're mad
Speaker 1: at me. You know why they feel that I an't
Speaker 1: blocking them because I ain't got anything to do with that.
Speaker 1: You believe in something, you go, I ain't there because
Speaker 1: you you're going ahead and have more ammunition where you're
Speaker 1: out in the clubs, out in the radio, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: As you're working, I funk with that. Let me just
Speaker 1: make some let me just place the floor. But let
Speaker 1: me ask your questions. Do you feel there's a clear
Speaker 1: difference between industry and culture? Oh big time, because when
Speaker 1: we're talking about is industry ship, that's industrhip. When you
Speaker 1: come out Payola were talking about he said the record
Speaker 1: is high personal and all that and what he believes
Speaker 1: to stand for the culture, for the culture. And then
Speaker 1: here it is. I'm gonna tell you it's a tap
Speaker 1: or the industry too. I'm gonna tell you why number one,
Speaker 1: I'm getting many record send weekly. I got to pick
Speaker 1: and choose sound right. If I don't pick and choose
Speaker 1: sound right now, I'll just play whatever my ratings go down.
Speaker 1: If my ratings go down, I get replaced. But so
Speaker 1: what did I do? I got now down to see
Speaker 1: what is the right, what is good? And I always
Speaker 1: set people do this three records. A person who is
Speaker 1: already established your homeboy or something that you really believe in.
Speaker 1: Which one you gonna pick? They look at me, say
Speaker 1: which one you go pick? I say the one I
Speaker 1: believe in it? They say't why they established first and
Speaker 1: already got his the homeboy should respect what you're doing,
Speaker 1: the one you believe in a credibility, but what you
Speaker 1: break absolutely he killed that and it makes sense, it
Speaker 1: makes it makes sense. Then if I find your makes sense,
Speaker 1: I wait for you to come back. As many of
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Speaker 1: So what's your favorite area hip hop? I know actually
Speaker 1: earlier eighties. I know you said eighties. Um, I said
Speaker 1: late eighties, late eighties, because late eighties before self destruct
Speaker 1: it was I say more eight Okay, Daddy can got
Speaker 1: the flat top out. It came with popping something pepper
Speaker 1: was popping. Base came out hard. Uh end up, they
Speaker 1: came out hard, too short came out hard. Um um
Speaker 1: who else I could damn boogie Downald Course Modi second album,
Speaker 1: Everything in the Rockim second album. Um of course Boogie
Speaker 1: Down had that second album at the same time. A
Speaker 1: eight was a Pinnacle time and now only that that
Speaker 1: was the year that Yo MTV Rap came out. It
Speaker 1: came out Slick iced Tea. Yeah, y. So when you
Speaker 1: got when you got your MTV rap, you got two
Speaker 1: major tours. There was two major hip hop tours. What
Speaker 1: what was those? The one I was only called the
Speaker 1: Dope Jam Tour. That was Everybody Jam, Dope Jam Tour,
Speaker 1: Dope Jam Mistakes, Dope Jams. I was like, really that
Speaker 1: that was rock Kim, Douggie Fresh, Boogie Down, Putting Koo Moo,
Speaker 1: d Ice Tea, and Western Peace Business Market. You know
Speaker 1: why because within that summer we did fifty three cities.
Speaker 1: They don't have tours like that number. The our tour
Speaker 1: was the tour that was I think it was run
Speaker 1: DMC in it. No, it was it was Jazzys your
Speaker 1: First Friends E p M D BEASTI Boys, e p
Speaker 1: M D Beast Boys. I'm trying to remember what. But
Speaker 1: they was major two. You know, different type of energy
Speaker 1: from both tours, but we was capturing the whole summer
Speaker 1: and your MTV rap came out. That was that was
Speaker 1: a breakthrough. That was the breakthrough for everybody, come behind U.
Speaker 1: That was that's that's crazy. That's now the game changer.
Speaker 1: I saw twice after success, uh the generation I come
Speaker 1: from with Flashing them and Punky four plus one and
Speaker 1: a um Curtis blow and no so sorry for it.
Speaker 1: The next wave was run DMC Fat Boys, Whodini, Then
Speaker 1: DMC Fat Boys, deny um l came a little after
Speaker 1: right behind him, and then eight six here comes another change.
Speaker 1: V kim m um, kim um. What I was just saying,
Speaker 1: boogie down production Salt and Pepper a year right year
Speaker 1: before A six heavy d come and play doug you
Speaker 1: first tried coming out because the show by Dougie first
Speaker 1: came out of eight five, you know, brought three more
Speaker 1: years and how many years that the show? But not
Speaker 1: then your forty um now here is after that hour
Speaker 1: coming into the late eighties. After that eighty eight, here
Speaker 1: comes the native tongue. Ever after that native tone Ever,
Speaker 1: then you're going into early nineties. Was the grimmy Ever
Speaker 1: does affect the Lords of the Underground, you know, and
Speaker 1: several other casts that are similar to that you also
Speaker 1: have from people that had the skills and the styles,
Speaker 1: not fool nickings. We don't prove they're coming to they're
Speaker 1: coming soon too. Oh yeah, that's only nineties. They're not
Speaker 1: here to coming to ninety three, ninety four, ninety five. Yeah. Come.
Speaker 1: And also respect to the West coast, cause they was
Speaker 1: holding down only nineties. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, they was
Speaker 1: holding down a head. It was holding down heavy. And
Speaker 1: because Snoop came out hard and early nineties, that deep
Speaker 1: cover changed again, you know, soldier, so it's a midship yeah,
Speaker 1: now coming into it within ninety the bad boy ever ever,
Speaker 1: you got people from down outcast, outcast, you got change.
Speaker 1: So we kept seeing how everything kept with revolving, and
Speaker 1: that was my job to make sure that I'm listening,
Speaker 1: paying attention. What is it right for me to go
Speaker 1: in for sound real quick? I'm sorry? Yeah, because also
Speaker 1: that ninety five Nies six hours two people came out
Speaker 1: and your man had a different type of sound and
Speaker 1: were on his show. So we gotta give him something
Speaker 1: spect because there ain't nobody here, no ship like that.
Speaker 1: When they put on that chill him. Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 1: ninety seven, that's seven yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: school and we was outside. Yeah yeah, what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: please get no flowers because following was a game changing
Speaker 1: that Permi Premier I said. I heard he has a
Speaker 1: video of mad shows from back in the days and
Speaker 1: he won't give anyone any copies. Premier wants them. Is
Speaker 1: that true? Are you're sitting around with the golden arches
Speaker 1: of documentaries right now? He's making a documentary more news
Speaker 1: that he's loving. So that is a yes, you do have.
Speaker 1: I have a great selection. I got a great selection
Speaker 1: of that, and even from the beginning stages. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying of all for thees, not not putting with
Speaker 1: my friend, not visual audio audio audio. So then that's
Speaker 1: how we take it to Netflix. Were just making a cat.
Speaker 1: We're making cartoons. Yeah, animazet this money right the photos
Speaker 1: for it? You make that animated cause you got the
Speaker 1: audio already. Yeah yeah, I don't have no vision. I
Speaker 1: was recording all the parties on the jams in the beginning.
Speaker 1: That's priceless. Talking about we've been talking about you know,
Speaker 1: getting int Oh you gotta do that. I've been trying
Speaker 1: to expose him that I have been We've been talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, creating some content and putting some consent out.
Speaker 1: But we've got some people to connect you all with
Speaker 1: it if you need people. Yeah. Yeah, this is a
Speaker 1: legends legend, just like cas when we had cats here,
Speaker 1: allegend legends, cash cash, We're supposed to have Mellie, Mellie me,
Speaker 1: he's gonna come back to He's gonna come to the show. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I just I just I just love this, these
Speaker 1: history lessons that you we need it. Yeah, appreciate that
Speaker 1: you have on this platform for people to come in here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because know what's the crazy thing is it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, we love how do they seven? We love
Speaker 1: how one of five? We love? But what it is
Speaker 1: is it's for the newest, hottest people. But what's about
Speaker 1: the people who've been here? And we don't we deserve off?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like like like and that's
Speaker 1: when we made our platform and you know, help me
Speaker 1: I'll talk to I was like, man, basically you know,
Speaker 1: he based Rock the Bells off of what Drink Chance
Speaker 1: was starting and respectful where that's my man, Like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? But we felt obligated, like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, and it's easier to talk
Speaker 1: to It's easier to talk to legend, not to this
Speaker 1: the new generation. But you know, when you're coming up,
Speaker 1: you're like, yo, man, so how was your day? They'd
Speaker 1: be like good, Like homeboy, I don't want to talk
Speaker 1: to you. Let's get the funk out of here, like
Speaker 1: like just just shot like like this is real grown
Speaker 1: up conversations. And the thing about it is, in every
Speaker 1: other genre, I've never heard the word washed up or
Speaker 1: over the hill. They don't say that in no genre, bro,
Speaker 1: only than us, And I gotta change that narrative. We
Speaker 1: gotta change that narrative us, all of us collectively, because
Speaker 1: anywhere else, even when you take your food home and
Speaker 1: you eat it the next day, it's called season. It
Speaker 1: ain't call washed up. You understand what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: we wanted to change that trajectory. And I think we
Speaker 1: all you know what I'm saying. This is one of
Speaker 1: those times, man, we were really, really, really really proud
Speaker 1: to have a legend like you right alert in front
Speaker 1: of us and giving us the story. You ain't bullshitting us.
Speaker 1: It's not one time. Yeah, and we're gonna make so long,
Speaker 1: I got a couple more questions. We're gonna make some
Speaker 1: looking for you. I'm just gonna take an actual shot
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to get your sons drunk. I can't
Speaker 1: get you drunk, so I gotta, I gotta, I gotta
Speaker 1: technically poltically get you drunk. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can see I can see you ain't playing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely. Before before we talked about the j enough
Speaker 1: in radio, right, what I wanted to act like if
Speaker 1: I was in high school? Right, I was in high
Speaker 1: school in two thousand one, Right, and in that time, Pop,
Speaker 1: you was on uh two times in the dead Old
Speaker 1: School Letting noon and five o'clock Free Rod. So when
Speaker 1: you was first talking about when this is something that
Speaker 1: I don't understood, that I didn't know you might have
Speaker 1: to be you might you might have to be careful. Look,
Speaker 1: it's gonna when when you was going when you was
Speaker 1: going back and forth with Molly Mall and them, right,
Speaker 1: you said you was on eleven and two at first
Speaker 1: year A. Right, So how was the transition from being
Speaker 1: eleven to two at w BLS to being to go
Speaker 1: into two slots on hot ninety seven per day, Old
Speaker 1: School at noon and five o'clock free rode because to me,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I've never heard of it
Speaker 1: a day where DJ goes on twice a day on
Speaker 1: a daily kind of basis on like hip hop radio. Okay, Now,
Speaker 1: what I had a chance to do during the time
Speaker 1: that Kiss from first the first amount of time and
Speaker 1: Kiss FM was eleven jaiar straight and that was weekends.
Speaker 1: First it was just Saturday. Then I started having Friday
Speaker 1: and Saturday. When you were on late night from M
Speaker 1: nine to troll as they considered late night, I was
Speaker 1: being more edgy because I'm playing for a jungle audience.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I had a chance to
Speaker 1: build up my name. Your name means a lot when
Speaker 1: it come across the airwaves. So now they're looking upon
Speaker 1: the audience that you had. Can you bring them to
Speaker 1: another station more prime time? Prime time is five o'clock
Speaker 1: is the second highest cuma of the day. The first
Speaker 1: highest cuman is the morning, the second highest is the
Speaker 1: afternoon drive. So that's why they created because they didn't
Speaker 1: have it before. They created the five o'clock freeback and
Speaker 1: you started that. Yes, you don't have a different times
Speaker 1: School doing the time. There was somebody else during the
Speaker 1: Old School at New yor Hot ninety seven um God
Speaker 1: named Glenn Fisher, but he was no more asked for
Speaker 1: like dance house music, so they weren't changed that because
Speaker 1: it was one day they had me do something. I
Speaker 1: forgot what day it was, and they heard the rovie
Speaker 1: to old School. I thank And that's when they had
Speaker 1: me in mind. Not before that. Remember, in the beginning
Speaker 1: of nineteen six in New York there was a big
Speaker 1: bad bliss. Okay, I just came home with ninety six.
Speaker 1: I was probably jugging off too much information. I'm sorry now.
Speaker 1: It was as the Blue say bad that when the
Speaker 1: women's couldn't come to the station because she comes from Jersey.
Speaker 1: So they asked me, can you come down and do
Speaker 1: that shift? So I did a whole shift, just mixing
Speaker 1: old school, William. I was combined during old school and
Speaker 1: new stuff. I was combined for that four hours. Here
Speaker 1: it is. They took care of me for that shift,
Speaker 1: and they say we want to appoint you to do
Speaker 1: the old School because we heard what you can do
Speaker 1: and we want to bring something to the table. So
Speaker 1: now here it is, I'm getting the audience that grew
Speaker 1: up with me from the Kiss at M and I'm
Speaker 1: appealing to the audience that are listening to me right
Speaker 1: now on the hot nineties seven, So I'm having both audience.
Speaker 1: There were some young people dash spent time listening to
Speaker 1: the Old School. Now you know why, because that's really
Speaker 1: they got a lot of their samples as he studied
Speaker 1: a lot whatever. I gotta bring some perspective to what
Speaker 1: he's saying, because I don't think we're really getting it
Speaker 1: what he's saying. He was playing vinyl man. Man, He
Speaker 1: wasn't just going on the computer and looking at what's
Speaker 1: the newest ship and it's the Old School and this
Speaker 1: is my playlist. He had to know his ship and
Speaker 1: physically take the records out and pick those records. So
Speaker 1: he was on top of his game. Please you know
Speaker 1: what it was like back then in the nineties. Fucking creates.
Speaker 1: Look at the way my back. Let me ask you,
Speaker 1: do you create the young homie used to carry my
Speaker 1: homie right there my records to the club. Do you
Speaker 1: like that? Creates is not not yeah, you like that crate? Vinyl?
Speaker 1: You still nobody likes Nobody likes the weight of vinyl.
Speaker 1: But but there was a different culture to vinyl. Vinyl. Now,
Speaker 1: I used to be doing a live stream show, like
Speaker 1: maybe ten eleven years ago, when they used to have
Speaker 1: you stream last stream. I had a show and I
Speaker 1: was doing it from home in my basement. Now the
Speaker 1: records out of playing, I know the value of them.
Speaker 1: They're not leaving my house. They're gonna get scratch, crack
Speaker 1: or missing. They stay right there. So it's a messing.
Speaker 1: I got the computer, right, I can keep on my
Speaker 1: value at home. Yeah, it was a blessing that he
Speaker 1: got the computer. For everybody's back this time. I was
Speaker 1: you you like and hit it that um person my
Speaker 1: coach to get into start using the computer with my
Speaker 1: cousin Jason because he used to be the spokesman for STOJ.
Speaker 1: Huh no, no, j cousin. So he got me inviold
Speaker 1: it and that's man. At the time, a lot of
Speaker 1: my peers are you're going down and know they were stilling.
Speaker 1: I said, listen here, you gotta adapt. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think he still got a survival. No, I got tractive.
Speaker 1: I just don't use it like that. Listen. He wanted
Speaker 1: he still want Vinyl. He want wanted listen, listen. He
Speaker 1: old school. He wanted the crates to come back. No, no, no, no, listen.
Speaker 1: I told you I don't want to carry crates. We've
Speaker 1: been trying to ask you to DJ for twelve years.
Speaker 1: One it's not the same. So I came out. That
Speaker 1: was an art for him to going through vinyl. It was.
Speaker 1: It was almost its own right. It's good you knew.
Speaker 1: What do you mean days out? Your name is DJ.
Speaker 1: We haven't seen DJE twenty years. I don't need it.
Speaker 1: I don't we miss you, we miss you. I'll say,
Speaker 1: listen to him. You got a cell phone? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got a cellphone. Why you have to pay booth? You
Speaker 1: adapt to the cell phone, adapt to the computer. M
Speaker 1: come like he was talking to you. I adapted some culture.
Speaker 1: We're here right now doing podcasting and this is my contributing,
Speaker 1: and I'm spending that. You asked it to the us own.
Speaker 1: It's just I'm just giving a person a lot of
Speaker 1: range of wide of you that you can always have
Speaker 1: that but not have the jungle of us different things.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely it's just shape to say. Yeah, you y'all
Speaker 1: both gonna agree with this. It's just safe to say
Speaker 1: because y'all. DJ. Right, it's just safe to say that
Speaker 1: the digital game got a lot of trash out there.
Speaker 1: Let's be clear, right, because you don't want nobody coming
Speaker 1: out to him and saying number it's a numbers games,
Speaker 1: the numbers game, because everybody has access, everybody could put
Speaker 1: out right. So because that numbers game, now you're sitting
Speaker 1: me with somebody who makes like two million dollars and
Speaker 1: he played three songs and there's a bunch of No,
Speaker 1: I'm not even worried about it. It's like the whole Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's no shape that because they're gonna get their money.
Speaker 1: But the only thing that that hurt like confusion d
Speaker 1: J game with the computers. You don't see the skill
Speaker 1: level no more. The skill level was at the door.
Speaker 1: Now everybody's gotta cutting scratch for none. How to play
Speaker 1: a song accommodating one to another, you know, even you're mixing,
Speaker 1: blending or timing, no, whatever it is. Instead it just
Speaker 1: but a great DJ will be even better with the
Speaker 1: technolog Like my boy DJ Craze, who's from Home Team
Speaker 1: right here, killer Like he takes the technology to the
Speaker 1: next level right on vinyl. He's even sometimes I'll be
Speaker 1: having an ox cord. I'll be like, I think, but
Speaker 1: you're not a you're not a good DJ. Nor I'll
Speaker 1: be like like like I'm saying, but I'm not gett
Speaker 1: paying myself to y'all same s they do. I could
Speaker 1: do like the new DULs you do, like I can
Speaker 1: do that. That's what they do. Respect and I respect
Speaker 1: a lot of DJs out there, but I respect a
Speaker 1: DJ that none to work their computer and that the
Speaker 1: computer work you. Okay, let's let's let's run down a
Speaker 1: list of DJs that you you enjoy watching. Oh Man,
Speaker 1: my number one favorite, Jazz Jeff, one of the best,
Speaker 1: fresh friend Jazz. Yeah, one of the best. Yeah, real
Speaker 1: DJ to say that, A lot of people we look
Speaker 1: at him like fluff. A lot of people like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been on the fresh prints, so they don't realize
Speaker 1: he gets busy. He's the DJ, I know. But you
Speaker 1: know what I'm trying to say. You know, that was
Speaker 1: like a commercial show all the time. So smithy guy, guy, listen, curse,
Speaker 1: does you know what I mean? So people a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know when you see DJ like red alert,
Speaker 1: Like I just asked him and that was his first
Speaker 1: DJ that he fired off. That's great, let's do that.
Speaker 1: I'm so how he robbed because the first time I
Speaker 1: got to see Jazz Jeff and DJ and Union Square
Speaker 1: and Fresh Princes and Jazz Jeff performed there for the
Speaker 1: first time, and that's what he came in and he
Speaker 1: was the skilled level he was doing, Like what that
Speaker 1: he's bad boy man? Was it Fresh Friends and Jazz Jeffer?
Speaker 1: Was it? Since we're talking about the d J, that's
Speaker 1: DJ j Jeff in the Fresh Prince DJ j J. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. First,
Speaker 1: just the way I confused the names. Did Jazz see
Speaker 1: Jeff get his name from jazz j Jesus how? I
Speaker 1: didn't think so. I don't think so. Honestly, I don't
Speaker 1: think so, because you gotta remember something smokes the country.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of jazzys at that time. We
Speaker 1: don't know every single town that had a jazz And remember,
Speaker 1: let's not forget Jazz Joyce as he joins a legend
Speaker 1: as well. Just he was a little a little fan
Speaker 1: of you. We've been little for a long time. Jazz
Speaker 1: Joyce get busy on that. Oh yeah, she's like, no,
Speaker 1: Jazz Joyce is the Elders also Coco Chanel, she died. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's the name Joyce Anchs. So because you know we
Speaker 1: Latino over here too. You know what I'm saying, who's
Speaker 1: the first Latino you've seen doing hip hop? Invest in Peace?
Speaker 1: He DJ at the disco favorite named June Buck. He
Speaker 1: was the first laptein of the DJ. But let's people
Speaker 1: get mad at me. They think I hate the Minica's
Speaker 1: just me they have before, but yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's just that's what I said last. I'm Cuban. We
Speaker 1: have a rivalry. We let's separate each other with media.
Speaker 1: He was same time Caribbean too, Yeah, Caribbean. But you know,
Speaker 1: Cuba is the biggest Cribian. I'm just want to put
Speaker 1: that out there. Everybody biggest Jamaican. Jamaican. I'm from Antigua, Antiga, Okay, figure'all.
Speaker 1: You know how the same every I got rice and
Speaker 1: beans and beans and rice. Yeah, planting and plantings. That's
Speaker 1: why you really know we're like everyone. The people like
Speaker 1: you go somewhere like, yeah, what's your national dish? Like
Speaker 1: for riga, Dot's not lose focus. Let's go back to
Speaker 1: the Latinos. Let's go so I know, I respect Charlie
Speaker 1: Chase ruby D. You know he was one of the
Speaker 1: members of ub D. You said Ruby ruby D one
Speaker 1: of the members of the Fantastic Five remembers you say,
Speaker 1: co question against past he was warning Fantastic Five. Um,
Speaker 1: I did not know him. I always heard about him
Speaker 1: and then I met him later on. Who was Rick
Speaker 1: cast and Disco Rich yea, yeah, I never't know him
Speaker 1: the very beginning. Um, I'm thinking everybody, because I was
Speaker 1: up in the Bronx all the time. I was always
Speaker 1: up in the box. I know. Down Harlem we had
Speaker 1: Tito and from Feeling Sport and O C who was
Speaker 1: the DJ for him Feelings sport Um. Not to be
Speaker 1: confused C from Digging in the Crates picking him up
Speaker 1: to Big o Se. It was a d J O C,
Speaker 1: not the one from Digging Crazy. You know. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to remember who else I can't recall, but now, but
Speaker 1: he used for us, I know, of course, you know
Speaker 1: Notating always been around and even the B Boys, there
Speaker 1: was a lot of people, huh crazy like before Rock Stay,
Speaker 1: the origin New B Boys do the names of Yeah
Speaker 1: there our timeline suck when he came here, you know,
Speaker 1: like fuck you your Timeline, Fuck you suck your hercle Field,
Speaker 1: That's what I was saying to him. A guy named
Speaker 1: rest in Peace, Mike my Man, Charlie, rock my Man, Trixie.
Speaker 1: And there was a guy who was who is the
Speaker 1: Latino named Sassa. Sounds like people was winning the battiest,
Speaker 1: winning the bad countless graffiti artists as well a graffiti
Speaker 1: artists as well. Oh yeah, that's a graffiti artists. Is
Speaker 1: that the I think that really start before hip hop coaching? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Yea yeah. And after we talked about with a little bit,
Speaker 1: I'm about to ask you that is the five elements
Speaker 1: of hip hop? Does it doesn't really matter anymore? Hey man,
Speaker 1: I don't like the way that question was at. I
Speaker 1: don't know you don't, but let him answer to me
Speaker 1: and my Piers and the audience that came along with us.
Speaker 1: It matters to us a great deal, a great great
Speaker 1: that's fun, you know, or even made a shirt about it.
Speaker 1: You look at your shirt that that we gave you
Speaker 1: the five elements. Give me the bottle opening up someone
Speaker 1: with the circle. It ain't going d J B Boys MC. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you think it's supposed to say it's full? And
Speaker 1: then also be Box. Some people say no, father was yeah,
Speaker 1: and some people just say former Russian but that's a
Speaker 1: b Rocks. What do you think about fashion? Fashion big
Speaker 1: part in hip hop, big part of hip hop because
Speaker 1: you see used to the spikes. No, that was that
Speaker 1: new way punk rocks. You ain't fo this white. You
Speaker 1: ain't had the reason I'm asking because you're gonna pull
Speaker 1: up a picture you don't, We're gonna go. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go look for it. We got something you want. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. I had a rob a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: I said, Lubaton with the spikes just for weirdos. I'm
Speaker 1: a hood widows and started wearing them. No, really, when
Speaker 1: you want to go with this man, I want Lott
Speaker 1: with tars. I didn't read the ones with the spikes,
Speaker 1: and there was so many people hit me like you
Speaker 1: can't dis spikes, and I was like, why at the
Speaker 1: bottom of the shoes, Yeah, I don't poke with those spikes.
Speaker 1: So but but when I said that, I didn't on
Speaker 1: the record with Lars pro Bro my first record I
Speaker 1: ever recorded with Lars Bro, and so many fans was like,
Speaker 1: but you can't di spikes like you just a little
Speaker 1: Tar Spikes, but you can't say Spikes is for widows.
Speaker 1: And I was like, why they sent me so much
Speaker 1: original when I was just like had mentioned the the
Speaker 1: parallels with punk and hip hop in the early beginnings
Speaker 1: and why there was like they looked the same at
Speaker 1: the time and there was in the same venues. It
Speaker 1: was a level situation at the time because culture counterculture.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is hip hop coming from up in the
Speaker 1: Bronx coming downtown, Punk rock and new waves, you know,
Speaker 1: was all emerging at the time, and we always got
Speaker 1: together at certain clubs. First was in the Grills, then
Speaker 1: Dance Interia, and it was like you got to learn
Speaker 1: some of their coaches, you got to learn some of
Speaker 1: our culture. The grill placed for the Grills that was
Speaker 1: on the second avenue was Jamaican. Uh. I think more
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, continue from them to Danceteria. Actually, while
Speaker 1: we was cutting up records like once in a Lifetime
Speaker 1: by Talking Heads and Liquid Liquid and you know, we're
Speaker 1: playing stuff like um something about UM coming down the
Speaker 1: house and all that stuff, and they got the line
Speaker 1: our stuff. So we was none how to support each other.
Speaker 1: We all have to look at them where we like
Speaker 1: their music and they're like our music. That's what it was.
Speaker 1: Because if you would have wore spikes and I would
Speaker 1: have found out you got the picture. Go you talk
Speaker 1: about that because I know how you know the error
Speaker 1: I grew up in the Oh you got de fitted
Speaker 1: jeans going back. Yeah, it's like they got me like that.
Speaker 1: Just the rivalry with the now now I know during
Speaker 1: the time, like the felish fire, the cold crushed the
Speaker 1: feather day was looking up to the people's like changing
Speaker 1: them at this right and like you know anything that
Speaker 1: George Clinton, they following that. You know they was doing
Speaker 1: that every day. No, it was coking everywhere, not before
Speaker 1: that or Angel does Angel does everywhere? I mean don't
Speaker 1: know about everywhere a man now before that. Here it
Speaker 1: is the groups I just mentioned. They used to come dressing,
Speaker 1: looking at the temptations and doing steps and everything. So
Speaker 1: there was far too different way. They was both looks.
Speaker 1: All three of them who I just mentioned used to
Speaker 1: come with the suits on. You should come doing steps,
Speaker 1: dancing and all that. Now here it is for us
Speaker 1: that re class of looking flyer the trump. At the
Speaker 1: time I was going to all the hip hop friends.
Speaker 1: We was ran in what they called Gabardine material pants
Speaker 1: with the over flaps. We had the turn next to
Speaker 1: the market. Next we had the um, the level fronts,
Speaker 1: we had the Italian Knicks. The shoes we wore was
Speaker 1: even playboys or British walkers, you know, if it was
Speaker 1: real flyer you are up pair of gams. You know. Um.
Speaker 1: The coat we had was quarter Fields. That's what we
Speaker 1: were rocking at that time. I gotta make some noise
Speaker 1: of that. What's that for? So when does Dapper Dan
Speaker 1: come into play? Ye, Dapper Dan came in I think
Speaker 1: about early eighties, but start to emerge more into the
Speaker 1: late eighties and you've got shirt Kings, you got shirt Kings,
Speaker 1: Short Kings goes out there and Ja Jamaica Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and then was doing their thing in the same Let
Speaker 1: me ask you, right, I love the everything you just said,
Speaker 1: but I want to ask you when we look at
Speaker 1: the old drug Dealer movies paid the falls, we look
Speaker 1: how much it seemed like if the DJ shot at
Speaker 1: you out in the club, you was different. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: little payola for that too. Let's stand up, guys, not
Speaker 1: really not really need to understand. Shot my name. I
Speaker 1: shot my name out and they know you're taking that's
Speaker 1: why you're shotting the name out. So now how much
Speaker 1: would that take? And you can get big money for that?
Speaker 1: We got a segue here. How important what he's saying
Speaker 1: right now? So you are the beginnings at least one
Speaker 1: of the partiers of mixed tapes. No, I'm not willing
Speaker 1: to be not in the beginning. Who I'll give respect
Speaker 1: to Brucy be absolutely Now how they that to me
Speaker 1: about mixtape? Because once I got on the radio, everybody
Speaker 1: you said, yo, let me get that mix from last night.
Speaker 1: I was already sententation from water jam. Remember you always
Speaker 1: asking about from every saying how is known for being recorded?
Speaker 1: All the parties mass up in the brunch. I'm down harm,
Speaker 1: I'm selling tapes. I'm making copies and selling tapes. You
Speaker 1: went platinum. Let's just talk about it. This is audio only, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is original mixtapes audio. You basically created the podcast.
Speaker 1: Well it's audio. You're fast forwarding right now, just like
Speaker 1: me to your what I made great money offer that
Speaker 1: coumo deep busy, be busy, be more. Now this is
Speaker 1: the legendary that is legend. I was there that day. Wait,
Speaker 1: so you're the one that put that out there. No,
Speaker 1: it was me and the DJ Vandy Rest in peace
Speaker 1: because what happened. I was just leaving from up in
Speaker 1: the Bronx, and I mean I got off on the
Speaker 1: right around my way HR Sixting Street, come out harmon Worlds.
Speaker 1: Right there, I saw there was a big crowd and
Speaker 1: there was an MC convention, as it was an MC convention.
Speaker 1: I always know for carrying my tap and MC convention,
Speaker 1: what does that mean? Exactly? At that point MC convention
Speaker 1: where it was also a contest, the battle basically battle
Speaker 1: and there was so many people that was battling. So
Speaker 1: now here it is, I'm walking with my tape deck.
Speaker 1: As I'm walking with my tape deck, I went to
Speaker 1: the to the section where the equipment and my man,
Speaker 1: I forgot his name. I said, yo, man, can I
Speaker 1: hook it up? He let me hook it up. So
Speaker 1: the house school mod have on the big glasses. Yeah no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he ain't a big glasses't have a big glasses. Can
Speaker 1: sell you the story into it. So let me look
Speaker 1: at my tape deck. Along with the tape deck that
Speaker 1: was and I recorded that. I recorded that, but I
Speaker 1: was always duplicated that And then you really sat, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna talking about the what happens this battle it's
Speaker 1: Busy Be. So it really was MC Battle Contest convention,
Speaker 1: it was, but it was all about again. So Modi
Speaker 1: was the host for that, but he decided to come
Speaker 1: in at the last minute, signed up to go after Busy.
Speaker 1: We called Busy Be was known for winning or the
Speaker 1: contest and Busy Be from the Bronx, mold from halland
Speaker 1: Wild Wild West. He made the record. It's documented, right
Speaker 1: they go at it. This is a moment that shifted
Speaker 1: hip hop. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely talk.
Speaker 1: You said you're there. What did you see when you
Speaker 1: was there? Man? When I saw that, Modi got up
Speaker 1: there and he started seeing them lyrics and all I
Speaker 1: can do is having my mouth for mind, like, oh
Speaker 1: ship because its number one. You didn't expect for him
Speaker 1: to be in the contest number two. You ship. He's saying,
Speaker 1: you never heard before you'd be like, what the So
Speaker 1: we're saying, mold one that Yeah, clearly you didn't listen
Speaker 1: to the change just because I'll be Let's go to
Speaker 1: the video chap, Let's go to the audio jape. Think
Speaker 1: about it. We'll play Let's go back to the table.
Speaker 1: We're going back to the tape and Monkey and Busy
Speaker 1: is good. They're good friends, good friends. You know. Business
Speaker 1: a legend. Yeah, business, that's my that's what my doing.
Speaker 1: But they helped me history because you think more about
Speaker 1: them too. Beside the whole entire battle. You know who's
Speaker 1: Rustle was in that that contest. A lot of people
Speaker 1: don't know he from down in Atlanta. He's known for
Speaker 1: being on radio in Atlanta. Remember Frank Ski V one
Speaker 1: on three. Frank Ski, he was the morning guy for
Speaker 1: V one on three. He was he was up there
Speaker 1: because you have family in Harlem. And he go ahead
Speaker 1: and got him there and wrapped. He was wrapping up
Speaker 1: the inst mental Mama used to say, Jesus, So imagine
Speaker 1: me go ahead making my hustle selling tapes. So by
Speaker 1: the time now when I get to doing radio, they
Speaker 1: don't want the party tapes. They say, yo, man, that
Speaker 1: joint what you did last night, You know, man, I
Speaker 1: want to copy of that. So what I used to
Speaker 1: do every time, because I was pre recording, I would
Speaker 1: always keep my master and make copies. So anybody heard
Speaker 1: something that night, the next day you got that tape.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Business. But then you started recording, I mean
Speaker 1: putting out your mixes from the radio as mix tapes. Yes,
Speaker 1: UM tell you the mixtape not not well, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying this, Okay, let me just in the street in
Speaker 1: street level, I would say a brucy b start see
Speaker 1: you guys, huh in New York. I'm talking from a
Speaker 1: guy from Miami that tapes are trickling down to us.
Speaker 1: That's why they were looking at us, looking at me.
Speaker 1: I don't know with Molly and Chuck, because people will
Speaker 1: recording us after radio just to stop you one second,
Speaker 1: just to give you your homage. And I'm appreciate getting
Speaker 1: to us is red alert tapes and kicking pre tapes
Speaker 1: in Miami, and then I become a mixtape DJ based
Speaker 1: on that that you're trying to me. I'm just honestly
Speaker 1: giving you what the blueprint. And then we learned about
Speaker 1: Brucey B and everybody through you guys, and we have
Speaker 1: to do our do and we have to dig in
Speaker 1: the crates and figure out what's the history. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: guys are the first people coming to us. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you don't mention these guys, they're getting missing absolutely, you know.
Speaker 1: And there was other people side brucy and and start
Speaker 1: out you have my man, DJ Hollywood, you have scheme.
Speaker 1: I mean, listens moments on so many of them, so
Speaker 1: many of them. That's still one of my favorite songs
Speaker 1: to this day. Who Dang, Who Dan? I don't want
Speaker 1: to go during the night with my honey. Gave me
Speaker 1: something that young boy go to bed. I a lot that.
Speaker 1: When I heard that, I was like, what the fun
Speaker 1: is going on? I really know what it was. And
Speaker 1: I see like a pictured like the person who they
Speaker 1: said sunk it and he had the suit on, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I ain't never seen that. Like, I
Speaker 1: was like, what we dressed up? I was so hood
Speaker 1: at that time, fresh man he was at It was
Speaker 1: more for like the growning sexy in that element over there.
Speaker 1: So that's we much more on the street, That's what
Speaker 1: that's that's what Cass said over Well, that's something again
Speaker 1: if you if you google that record when it came out,
Speaker 1: I had to be like eight or nine. Well I
Speaker 1: didn't know. People said that they considered that commercial and
Speaker 1: I was like, well, like what was commercial about that?
Speaker 1: And compared to what they were doing, compared to what
Speaker 1: they were doing, so um, I didn't know, so what
Speaker 1: I think that you could probably rather soon as did this.
Speaker 1: But what was the difference? What did you want to
Speaker 1: did you care about being on the commercial side like
Speaker 1: or did you say you know it didn't matter. You
Speaker 1: just wanted to push hip hop forward? Like what what
Speaker 1: side do you you think? I'm gone to take advantage
Speaker 1: of the commercial side with the elements of where I
Speaker 1: come from on the hip hop. I wanted to go
Speaker 1: ahead and bring that over here. Let people know that
Speaker 1: this is what we've been doing over here, and let
Speaker 1: me present it to you and I can go ahead
Speaker 1: and program right along with everything else that you are
Speaker 1: like not understand with you. You know, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you your R and B. I'm gonna give you a dance.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some what we've been doing. Mix
Speaker 1: it all to Jael and everybody get that variety. That's
Speaker 1: what that did got them and you've been credited with
Speaker 1: bringing reggae and dance all to the radio waves as
Speaker 1: well in the States. Respect on that um. But it
Speaker 1: influenced me once again, the dope jam to I just
Speaker 1: told you about when we was coming out. No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm the hype man to KOs one book production. Everybody
Speaker 1: knew I was the DJ, but that was the Nice.
Speaker 1: So every time we came out, we came to hold On.
Speaker 1: You just said that way too fast. Again again, I said,
Speaker 1: everybody thought I would have been the DJ in place
Speaker 1: of Scott the Rock. I'm gonna add that, mate, dear,
Speaker 1: But it was d Nice that was the DJ while
Speaker 1: I was the hype man for KOs one one stage History,
Speaker 1: So you was splip star, that's fine, that's wine. While
Speaker 1: he was coming out. He was coming out to the
Speaker 1: instrument version of Telephone Love by J. C. Longe. So
Speaker 1: when I saw the response every time we came out
Speaker 1: to that, and we always ended out with the album
Speaker 1: version of Stop the Valance that was on the album
Speaker 1: and that also got Caribbean influence, it gave me an
Speaker 1: idea when I got back to the station to started
Speaker 1: playing some dance Harvekings. So the first ten fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: I played some dance hall because there were some people
Speaker 1: that have made dance havankas like Um special Ed on
Speaker 1: his choice album, UM drove yourself on the other's album No.
Speaker 1: So then extended and stand down. I started ring supercat
Speaker 1: type ship that's start getting the Beanie Man and Shabu Shot.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean this is no and you know
Speaker 1: I made it one hour out of my show. And
Speaker 1: before you know that, you let me have an album
Speaker 1: out called prop Master Dance on Little Virus, Little Vicius
Speaker 1: is on. That was dope record. Man. That was like,
Speaker 1: that's a class, that's my guy. Yeah, can I as
Speaker 1: absolutely all right? So we didn't mention this, but I
Speaker 1: happened to know that you are in your forty fifth
Speaker 1: year of DJAN. Right, is that on radio or just djero?
Speaker 1: That's all together. I started on radio eight three, but
Speaker 1: I started DJAN in seventy six, So so how long
Speaker 1: have you been on radio? Next month could be thirty
Speaker 1: eight years? Incredible, man. I don't do as many people
Speaker 1: of the forty five because I know some people get confused.
Speaker 1: All right, So I have I wanted to do this
Speaker 1: on this day I have it. Is it a true question? Right?
Speaker 1: I gotta go to the barroom. That's a part of
Speaker 1: the show. Is it Is it true that you're on
Speaker 1: the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? What it is?
Speaker 1: They have a display on me in the radio section
Speaker 1: of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, including on
Speaker 1: Hags and it's an honor because I'm right along with
Speaker 1: some of the great DJ's from radio in the past,
Speaker 1: like Gyne, Alan Freed, Wolfman, check Um, Frankie Crocker. I
Speaker 1: mean so many people. So you know you in that category, dumb.
Speaker 1: It's an honor battle so you know, solidified in the
Speaker 1: history of our country as well. Right, that's what that is.
Speaker 1: So I've got another institute, one more, one more, all right,
Speaker 1: So when I do my homework on you, when I
Speaker 1: do my homework, it's a time where you mentioned like
Speaker 1: Rob Base, we talked about the movie Juice, you know,
Speaker 1: from my like my age group. You know, we know
Speaker 1: Kalid and we know a bunch of DJs now that
Speaker 1: we see on the face value on TV and stuff.
Speaker 1: But when I look at those errors, even up to
Speaker 1: like even ludicrous throw them bowls. You were like highly
Speaker 1: featured in a lot of hip hop videos, and at
Speaker 1: that time, I didn't really know if that was like common,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's there was a point
Speaker 1: where I think I saw that. I heard I think
Speaker 1: he's the most the most featured cameo in a video video. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw that. I read that. I read and I
Speaker 1: thought about it. I was like, well, if I look
Speaker 1: at the videos that I've seen, then he showed that
Speaker 1: he was showing finish your question? Sorry is this? Was
Speaker 1: there anybody else doing this? Was this a tactic? Like?
Speaker 1: What did you realize he was doing that? I did
Speaker 1: it for a reason. A long time ago, before the
Speaker 1: visual took off, there was a lot of people impostus
Speaker 1: try to impersonate who they are to make their money.
Speaker 1: You know, you get the fake this faith that. So
Speaker 1: when Spaking and I once again we dine in Kentucky
Speaker 1: and um just back like mid eighties r in Kentucky
Speaker 1: and this guy he's gonna brag you know that his
Speaker 1: name dropping. Well, you know I met this person. I
Speaker 1: met that person. He mentioned my name. So he mentioned
Speaker 1: my name me sparking and look at each other, I
Speaker 1: mean saying nothing. The cup quiet. Right before we get
Speaker 1: go on the stage, Sparky tap him and say, oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, that's better. Look he looked at me.
Speaker 1: He was shocky ran out. I say, okay, so even
Speaker 1: that you dragging that you said you met everybody or
Speaker 1: there's somebody go around and say they meet. So when
Speaker 1: I saw that, I had the opportunity to do the
Speaker 1: first video I forgot the first video every did. They
Speaker 1: asked me to be in it. Now, I said, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: I'll be in it. When I saw the response that
Speaker 1: had everybody noticed me, I said, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna capitalize all for them. Let me brand myself and
Speaker 1: promote myself so people know who I really be side
Speaker 1: somebody else scored fak and say who they are. So
Speaker 1: I took advantage of that. That's did I did. I
Speaker 1: say a suggestion, please y'all make a father in some podcasts.
Speaker 1: So it's really interesting. We have we we originally we
Speaker 1: created uh representation of our dynamic called the Full Connection.
Speaker 1: Um it started. I wouldn't say we really took in,
Speaker 1: we really got down with it? What after lighting past
Speaker 1: we did? We was right around that time the hip pub.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll be drunk. I can't remember everything. It was
Speaker 1: like it was like you can't shot drink drink Champs
Speaker 1: not posted started and does you want the poomboo juice
Speaker 1: boo poopoo. I'm sorry, poooo juice, Scott got juice poop
Speaker 1: poo juice. I'm just lexing, give me, give me a break,
Speaker 1: give me your side. It's got great I'm sorry, but
Speaker 1: the pool bo juice. It's like grand games say you
Speaker 1: don't say sorry. Yeah, because normally when people asking what's
Speaker 1: in the poopo juice, he used to say, if I
Speaker 1: tell you that, I gotta get you can kill him
Speaker 1: drink boo, he got me drunk. A nice seem like
Speaker 1: come here nor ship. Yeah, so you guys thought about
Speaker 1: doing the podcast. So that's not necessarily a podcast, but
Speaker 1: we kind of just used it as a representation of
Speaker 1: our dynamic. I think this would be a great podcast
Speaker 1: him it is that my idea of bringing to them
Speaker 1: about the cool connection, because they should get confused here.
Speaker 1: It is. They come to him and say, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't remember you should be on the wady You say no,
Speaker 1: that's not me. A lot they're come to him and say, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I make your make you say that's not me. So
Speaker 1: I said, that's through the cool connection me as pops
Speaker 1: and everybody shows who they are as an individual. Didn't
Speaker 1: like that. I like that. I'm taking a shot to
Speaker 1: that's taking off. Although there you already poured off what
Speaker 1: the I thought you was hitting my boomp boom juice
Speaker 1: together boom boom. Wait, hold on before we drink the shot. Dude.
Speaker 1: I always wanted to know what the hell was in
Speaker 1: that bottlem episode. Isn't that bottle that? I don't think? No,
Speaker 1: I don't. That's about It's not. I don't get any
Speaker 1: kind of like taking ball Manny get talking to talk.
Speaker 1: A bone that snaps, it's just the Manican tiger bone
Speaker 1: that that is not that. You can do good and
Speaker 1: you can get drunk Dominican. You spin it on, maybe
Speaker 1: come a zone Dominican. Dominican is not donicanger bone. This
Speaker 1: is Dominican bo. You're already drunk. The shap you're gonna pass.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought you check you up. Dominican bone.
Speaker 1: It's not the same thing. Dominican Dominican. It's Dominican tiger bone.
Speaker 1: It's not yeah it is. It's yeah. I don't that
Speaker 1: you get away with this. Yeah, you want real tyger bone. No,
Speaker 1: I don't want that. Exactly what is until it's herbs
Speaker 1: and trees fermented till it. It's gonna take you to
Speaker 1: another planet. Should that's gonna make you work out right after?
Speaker 1: The is the puss to make you get a baby
Speaker 1: that I'm this is the not the This is the
Speaker 1: pom pom Juice, So Red, yes, is there anything you
Speaker 1: felt like you didn't complete in hip hop right now?
Speaker 1: Anything that you regret like or regret or just feel
Speaker 1: like you know anything or fixed. I don't know anything.
Speaker 1: I will admit that had opportunities to take it to
Speaker 1: different levels. In the business structure. I was not that
Speaker 1: much business savvy, which I had my reasons, But if
Speaker 1: I would have took that course, everything would be in
Speaker 1: a different matter. What hold me back? Because once again,
Speaker 1: you guys asked earlier the culture in the business, the
Speaker 1: corporate You know, when I got to find the other side,
Speaker 1: whether to take place in the business a culture, they
Speaker 1: had a sad, sad feeling. I had a bitter taste
Speaker 1: in my mouth because I knew where I come from
Speaker 1: and I have to do this to number one, sell
Speaker 1: my soul. Yeah, give up or whether the case may be,
Speaker 1: or the same note, just to get what I want
Speaker 1: to get. Then you know what that's ma, Who's say
Speaker 1: I'm might as gonna take the money go play a record.
Speaker 1: So that's why I never took that standard because I
Speaker 1: know I have that let production. But when I started
Speaker 1: seeing the other side that I never knew of and
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, that's not me. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody always wanted to tell you what you should do,
Speaker 1: but they never asked you what is it that you
Speaker 1: want to do. I didn't want to do that, So
Speaker 1: that's why I mean tame like where I'm at, and
Speaker 1: that's where I kept going forth for this life, for
Speaker 1: time consistency. So that's that's the only thing I regret,
Speaker 1: and I don't really regret. But if I had to
Speaker 1: go through that and just be smooth selling, I would
Speaker 1: have been all the way. That's it. It's just shafe
Speaker 1: to say what you know now to compared to what
Speaker 1: you knew back then, would you have done it all again?
Speaker 1: I would have done it differently, So that's what that's
Speaker 1: that's part of the regret, A small regret because I
Speaker 1: could have knowne how to you know, observed a little better? Right?
Speaker 1: You know what you know now? I would have been
Speaker 1: able to do it back then, you know. Can I
Speaker 1: add on to a question on what you're talking about
Speaker 1: that I like this? So I'm telling you this is
Speaker 1: the podcast reading the book I was reading the part
Speaker 1: of it might have been Russell Simmons book. I was
Speaker 1: being a couple of pages by the way clapping. Um.
Speaker 1: I I read Decoded and I read Russell Simmons book,
Speaker 1: and I think you mentioned in like the first five
Speaker 1: tempa so so really quick, I wanted to fiss, I want,
Speaker 1: I want to actually and maybe because you said this,
Speaker 1: I never actually if you realized this at this time? Right,
Speaker 1: it was kind of I read like you and Russell
Speaker 1: Simmons were like the only like hip hop management to
Speaker 1: hip hop management labels at a time, Like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? So when i'm and when you say
Speaker 1: there's certain things about the things you would have been
Speaker 1: done different, did you realize that's what that was at
Speaker 1: the time that you was like creating that entrepreneurial self,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You start your own label,
Speaker 1: like right now, that's the thing, right, we love Nick,
Speaker 1: We love all these people because they do their own thing.
Speaker 1: But we talked about native tones, we talked about artists
Speaker 1: you usher, then we tell about were you actually were
Speaker 1: when Chris actually started it. Only that you um made
Speaker 1: up the word or made up the even the slogan
Speaker 1: where you're a part of the actual management, Like well
Speaker 1: you're a part of that. That's I think that's what
Speaker 1: you're trying. Did you realize that kind of being being
Speaker 1: part of the blueprint. I have realized it afterwards. And
Speaker 1: when I realized it afterwards, that's what I said, Damn,
Speaker 1: I should have been a different vout a better about that.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. And then here's another thing. Chris
Speaker 1: was taken from me on the load. He was taken
Speaker 1: from you because when I had for him in regular
Speaker 1: production and they saw I was up and coming, they
Speaker 1: in his air for him to grow with them with
Speaker 1: Russian management. Huh were Russian management? Yes? I had to
Speaker 1: be rush management because that's what birth violator. And then
Speaker 1: so now I gotta actually straight up like when you
Speaker 1: see Rollater was formed. I was happy to that, and
Speaker 1: I let gonna tell you how that became. Because first
Speaker 1: they came to me about there was a record company Relativity.
Speaker 1: Steve No no, no, no, that's no no no no, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but no Stevens there. Brie was there at Relativity. Um um, damn, mom.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say Alan Gromlock, but I forget, I
Speaker 1: forget who it is. I had to beat with them.
Speaker 1: Chris my representative. So they offered me to try to
Speaker 1: form a label deal. The only problem I couldn't do
Speaker 1: it because it's been a conflict of interest. I couldn't
Speaker 1: have a label deal and be on race Yo. That's
Speaker 1: a confident interest. So passed onto Chris. And that's where
Speaker 1: you see Fat Joe, che L beat Nuts. They came
Speaker 1: out under relativity and talk yeah, but me around all
Speaker 1: around that progama of time. Chris is also real an
Speaker 1: association with Russ so he you know what, he can
Speaker 1: offer that relativity to go ahead to form violators because
Speaker 1: remember his own brolla was Baby Sounds that was under
Speaker 1: the umbrolla was violate the management, violate the records, and
Speaker 1: a couple other different avenues, and that's what he formed.
Speaker 1: But he got his idea by being environd with relativity.
Speaker 1: But here it is they saw a jewel that was
Speaker 1: under me and they matched. Wow when you say they
Speaker 1: who we just mentioned? Yeah, that was one more the
Speaker 1: last one. And I always asked about this because you know,
Speaker 1: I lived in stuff like that. It's a lot of times.
Speaker 1: You tell me that Jungle Brothers cuted. You know, various
Speaker 1: other Native Tongue artists used to record in the career, right,
Speaker 1: tell me about the end House studio that they used
Speaker 1: to like, what was that environment like I was, I
Speaker 1: wasn't around, you know what I mean? So what was
Speaker 1: that like? And in the crib once you get arresting
Speaker 1: peace of my mother because my mother is like I
Speaker 1: always said, my way is the head of the whole
Speaker 1: entire thing, right, you know, I ain't gonna lie. And
Speaker 1: and they both can take more. He can tell you.
Speaker 1: Member was kangster, That little five foot and a half
Speaker 1: woman was something else, but she alive. Everybody to come
Speaker 1: through the crib and members of Jungle, members of Daylight,
Speaker 1: members of the tribe creeen l tie for Ultra, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. The list is knowing everybody comes
Speaker 1: to the crib, amber's too late, should tell him you
Speaker 1: ain't going the way there on that couch. That's what
Speaker 1: it was like the electric So yeah, it was like
Speaker 1: that and it was always spending time. Then I was
Speaker 1: on the road that that year for the Dope Jam tour.
Speaker 1: They took over mother just like here. It is the
Speaker 1: same thing. Sammy was the DJ filling for me on
Speaker 1: Kiss From But when I learned there was different members
Speaker 1: of the natives, Mber was playing too turned over everybody.
Speaker 1: It was like go That's how they was moving. So
Speaker 1: that's what it was. Stuff. Man, I can't do nothing
Speaker 1: else but clapp all right. I just want you to
Speaker 1: know our show was about doing what we just did.
Speaker 1: Right there, we looked at everybody else and everything else
Speaker 1: going on, and my partner right here to the right
Speaker 1: of me kept telling me, man, let's do a podcast.
Speaker 1: Let's do a podcast, and we wanted to. When we
Speaker 1: came together, we said we want to do it different.
Speaker 1: We want to get people they roses, people that you
Speaker 1: don't deserve it like you know, not not no, no
Speaker 1: disrespect to the new people, because that's not what we're saying.
Speaker 1: We're not saying we don't mess with the new people.
Speaker 1: What we're saying is our legends deserved to be respected.
Speaker 1: Our legends deserve they don't deserve you know, yellow roses,
Speaker 1: they don't deserve white roses, and don't deserve ring ros letters,
Speaker 1: gold rolls, legends. You know what I'm saying, people who
Speaker 1: deserve You know that that that that that twenty years
Speaker 1: that ten years span, that fifteen years span, and um,
Speaker 1: we want to say it to your face. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like so many people, something happened to
Speaker 1: somebody and me and my partner realize that, like people
Speaker 1: always give people the roses and they dead like let's
Speaker 1: let's let's let's let's can repeat doing it. And we've
Speaker 1: been luckily. I think we're approaching six years now, we're
Speaker 1: approaching six March. Six years we're doing that, and we
Speaker 1: ain't bite wing fold. We ain't do We were stuck
Speaker 1: to our legends and rather alert. Let me just tell
Speaker 1: you something. You are super duper legends, the allegend of legends,
Speaker 1: the coolest legends. And this is listen man, when because
Speaker 1: we gonna hit you out with the play see y'all
Speaker 1: gonna form a podcast we're doing y'are signed to drink,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but when they come time liten, this is
Speaker 1: your platform, Our show is your show. You've always ever
Speaker 1: since I've seen you, Rad, I've never I can't remember
Speaker 1: any time I ever seen Rad Alert, and I was
Speaker 1: was displeasure. I've always it's always been great. And you
Speaker 1: always got me drunk too. You probably like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: always like he still got you drunk and realized that.
Speaker 1: But you always was a great soul. Every time I've
Speaker 1: seen you, you've been a blessing. You've been a legend,
Speaker 1: you've been a teacher, um, and we were so happy
Speaker 1: to give you your roses. We're so happy to tell
Speaker 1: you how much you mean to us, hip hop, the culture,
Speaker 1: everything man. Like. You know, we've always you know, talking
Speaker 1: this hip hop union ship. And you know that's when
Speaker 1: I think of hip hop union, I think of you know,
Speaker 1: people on the forefront of it. It's just like, yo,
Speaker 1: we should have you at the forefront. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: what the funk should should happen, because you know what
Speaker 1: it is. Even when I tried to get you to
Speaker 1: say something wrong about something, you didn't do it tonight.
Speaker 1: I tried to. I tried to. No, I wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: do that. He told me, not drinking. I can't do that.
Speaker 1: I can't. No, I can't do that unless he was
Speaker 1: he Sometimes you get you, Okay, I want to be mad,
Speaker 1: but you know our honestly, honestly aside, you really deserve
Speaker 1: your flowers. You really a legend. Everything you accomplishment, um, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, forget me as a rapper, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: me as a fan. I remember just so and just
Speaker 1: running too a radio and just you know, sitting there
Speaker 1: and watching the older brothers. You know, smoke weed when
Speaker 1: I was like, let's just think and they were right, Hey,
Speaker 1: can I give a shout out to this lady that's
Speaker 1: in here with us? She's over there on the side,
Speaker 1: she having short on and shortest Union Square. We were there,
Speaker 1: you know, we was you there? Where are you there?
Speaker 1: That's also part of the prop Master retro should that
Speaker 1: you have if I can go on prop Master metro,
Speaker 1: So that gonna be the documentary? Huh? Is that going
Speaker 1: to be the documentary? Not for nothing? She also should
Speaker 1: be a part of the documentary. That's tell us the
Speaker 1: bottom of it that you do know who that is?
Speaker 1: Tell us this lady right here is the person that
Speaker 1: showed me when I first started Union Square and then
Speaker 1: evolved later on as management of the Shadow nightclub. That's
Speaker 1: where the gods were being shadow up earlier. Shadow. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's as well. Add the Shadow book wide that we
Speaker 1: do every year. Anything about it. When you see good
Speaker 1: people that you have history with, beautiful, Now that lawyer
Speaker 1: t you go with that lawyer because you know there's
Speaker 1: a real out of respect with that lawyer. That's beautiful.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. So is there anything that we
Speaker 1: ain't covered that we should have covered anybody. Do you
Speaker 1: want to couple anything? Um, this pub can probably tell
Speaker 1: you some things that we're haven't store. I don't know
Speaker 1: what you want to say. This is what you're the one.
Speaker 1: I've been doing the old school reunion, like I said,
Speaker 1: I was doing with Molly and and we still continue.
Speaker 1: We just had a nice little celebration for for my
Speaker 1: forty five years last month, you know, and we're still
Speaker 1: doing it. We're gonna go as as far as we can,
Speaker 1: the old school re union. We've been doing it for
Speaker 1: like twelve thirteen years strong Rest of Peace. DJ Lance,
Speaker 1: one of our DJs passed away from covid um, but
Speaker 1: with Molly mall Um rather alert. We had we had
Speaker 1: Claude Camper, we had Uncle Ralph Nobuck star Ski. Yeah
Speaker 1: you know, so we had a list of good DJ's,
Speaker 1: talented DJ's. Yeah, yeah, yeah, world, I ain't know that.
Speaker 1: And you know my reason for celebra of forty five
Speaker 1: years because I look at this, like he just mentioned
Speaker 1: by my man, DJ Lands, he was like the top
Speaker 1: DJ in Brooklyn in the past that he was known
Speaker 1: him as Master d then he changed the name DJ Lands.
Speaker 1: He held Brooklyn down single handed for years. Him and
Speaker 1: I rebuild a great relation and we found out we
Speaker 1: had something in common that we've started the same year.
Speaker 1: He started in May, I started in August. Unfortunately he's
Speaker 1: not here to celebrate that. So my reason was sufferings
Speaker 1: forty five years because I'm dedicating this forty five to
Speaker 1: all the DJs I know throughout the time that we
Speaker 1: no longer have here. I mean not just riffering up
Speaker 1: in New York, and I mean across the country, people
Speaker 1: I know from overseas, everybody that passed away that brought
Speaker 1: them to the table. I've dedicate my forty five to dump.
Speaker 1: But I gotta ask this question because I'm never gonna
Speaker 1: know what was the Boopies like in the eighties, the group.
Speaker 1: He's like, you know the girls? The girls? Yeah, was
Speaker 1: you a finger Papara? He's gonna cut it up before math.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Before many when you was out there loose,
Speaker 1: we all was loose. Come on, I think that's where
Speaker 1: his intro came. I can only put it rung weight.
Speaker 1: You're gonna keep it clean. I'd like to thank everybody
Speaker 1: for the black body I fling. Oh my god, thanks
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