1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: And it's Drink Chas motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary Queen's rapper. 2 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: He's agreed, is your boy in o R. He's a 3 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: Miami hippop pioneer. Up his DJ E f N. Together 4 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: they drinking up with some of the biggest players in 5 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: the most professional, unprofessional podcast and yet number one source 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: for drunk fast drink Chas motherfucking every day is New 7 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: Year's Eve. That it's time for drink Champs. Trick up, 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: motherfuck motherfucking would it could be hoping it's what it 9 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: should beat. This is your boy in right? What up 10 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: is d J E f N? And this is drink Chance. 11 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: Motherfucker Yappia makes un And as we always say before 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: we start a show, we say that this is a 13 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: legend that we're about to introduce. But I want to 14 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: take uh with Mr Lee just said off camera, he said, 15 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: this is a super legend. This is a super legend. 16 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: I remember waking up just to hear this man on 17 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: the radio trying to get you know what I mean, 18 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: not even thinking at this time, I wouldn't even think 19 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: about being a rapper. I just wanted to hear this. 20 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: These people play on the radio and when I hit everybody, 21 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: what you do all the time before I do an interview, 22 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: I hit, I hit people, and I'll say, what does this? 23 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: You know you got a question for this guy? And 24 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: everyone just responded and wanted to show their love for 25 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: this super super super a legend. I mean, we just 26 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: heard he's celebrating the forty seven um year being a DJ. 27 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: Is that crue? I'm forty four years old, So I 28 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: let you know how much of a legend this is. 29 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: I mean when I say I am honored, I am 30 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: proud to have him on our show. Motherfucking cool DJ. Respect, man, respect, 31 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: not super respect to you man. Um, let's let's let's 32 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: let's let's let's. I won't pounce all over the place, 33 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: but one place I want to start with you is Violator. Yes, 34 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: the first time I ever you know, I eventually became Violator, 35 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: but first time I ever heard of Violator was with 36 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: you before I even heard uh. Later on became Baby Chris, 37 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: before I even heard of him. I heard that that 38 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: was your crew, Violators. Can you break that down for me? Violators? 39 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: That's right, it's five members and it started out in 40 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: Union Square. Wow, and that's downtowntown. You spread lower part 41 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: in midpart of midtown Manhattan. And I remember the first 42 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: day I started and five guys came to came in. 43 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: They said, yo, Bam, send us down here, like bam 44 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: send your bottom. Yeah, may send you all down here. 45 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: But I see what because y'all feel that, you know, 46 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: I would give a come into my own what I 47 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: was about to do. So they come on in. But 48 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: they had this thing about taking over people girls. That's 49 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: why they called violators. That's why I call them. Okay, okay, okay, 50 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: he was going there. You know, we all from uptown 51 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: and no Manhattan. The Bronx ain't know you're Spaklyn, right, 52 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: so you know, they feel like you know, but of 53 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: course had this rep but no, I saw some guys 54 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: coming with some girls, so they called themselves running up 55 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: on the girls and their arms around and walking over 56 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: and you know, God, and that's why I was gonna say, yo, man, 57 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: y'all can't be doing that's wrong with you'all. You're violating, man. 58 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: One thing leads to another. First, it was just it 59 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: was four guys, four or five guys, and two of 60 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: them mainly was Chris Lady and double one was called down. 61 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: We called him sneaky deep okay, the other day like 62 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: sped off from then here come two more the same thing. 63 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: Damn some mus done. All these guys from Branch River, 64 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: I say, yeah, yeah, come on in. So that's Chris 65 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: Ali and Big Rod and the last person you go 66 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: about the name of Hands, but we gave him a 67 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: nickname called Black Jesus. I'm gonna tell you why. As 68 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: dark skin as he is. But the Jemmy Colls look 69 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: like you're about to do a prayer. So that's why 70 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm calling Black Jesus. So I need to ask right 71 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: now when Chris like now, now, this is Chris father. 72 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: This is Chris lady who came around when you said 73 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: when you say baby christ you talk about Chris ldy's father, 74 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: were talking about Chris like Chris like, okay, now was 75 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: he always supposed to Was he always had this plan 76 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: to be in management or what was his role? So 77 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: you don't understand during the time when Chris was coming 78 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: down with the Fellers, you know that people did not 79 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: know that Chris was going to school and working as 80 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: an electrician for Metro North, you know, and then on 81 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: his off time he come and hang out with the 82 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: Fellers and be so you know, he was a person 83 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: that was legant and cocky, didn't kill yes, but I 84 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: always saw that he had a you know, good head 85 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: on his shoulders. This way, anybody that's around eighteen years 86 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: old that had a job working as electrician and Metro 87 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: North while going to school, you know, you can utilize that. 88 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: So when the younger brothers stopped coming to form that's 89 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: my nephew right g North of Africa band and baby 90 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: Bam and um Sammy b I needed somebody to read 91 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: the road manager, so I pointed Chris to become the 92 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: row manager. What did you see in Chris? What did 93 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: you like? Ambition? The ambition, Like I said, he was cocky, arrogant, 94 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: but you also sort the other sideway, you know, he 95 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: had something that to standford or you know what it 96 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: is down the road. So that's why I appointed him 97 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: as roll manager. And this is road manager for this 98 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: is yes, Hunt and Jung Bubbish came about, you know, 99 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: and before you know, after a while he became at 100 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: the fourth member. Yeah, Jesus, there's so much history here man. Yes, 101 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: So okay, how does this develop into you? Because hip 102 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: hop this time especially I'm outside of looking at it him, 103 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm like I said, I'm forty four years old. How 104 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: do you go from like the hip hop like hip 105 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: hop being underground and then you get this chance to 106 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: be on the radio station. Well, first and foremost, I 107 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: got to give a live of respectors um may he 108 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: rest in peace, super rocking Mr Magic Wow. You know 109 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: he's the one that I always said that he's the 110 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: one that really opened the doors for us to be 111 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: doing the airwaves. So it's Mr Magic first. Mr Magic First. 112 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: He used to be on the independent station w HBI 113 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: point nine and late night from like two to four 114 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: in the morning. But you know he had grabbed so 115 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: much attention from the youth and the streets that he 116 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: is WBLS major radio station picked him up. So they 117 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: picked him up. No, that's ran nine eight point seven. 118 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: Kiss firm had interest because they want to do similar 119 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: to what BLS is doing. First person they ran after 120 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: was a member of the zoo nation called Africa Islam, 121 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: but he missed a couple of appointments. I think he 122 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: was overseas at the time. So the next person they 123 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: went after was my cousin, the original DJ J, and 124 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: he did it for a couple of months even though 125 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: there wasn't paying, but he gained so much exposure for 126 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: getting gigs and studio work, and then he let it 127 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: go cause he was on the go with the SOCNIC 128 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: for us to performing. So they came to him. They 129 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: came and said, who's the next person having lined? So 130 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: it came to me, and that was in October nineteen three. 131 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: I never looked back some boys for that. Goddamn how 132 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: old were you when you got that gig? How old? 133 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: Damn more or less? Huh more or less? Like? How 134 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: old you think got? Being my um, you asked that question. 135 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: So I I'm bouncing around a little bit ahead. How 136 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: do you after flex? Connect? Well? I gotta give it 137 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: a lot of credit for the person work from master 138 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: Flexing was Chuck Chillout. Okay, yes that's right. Chuck chill 139 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: Out and Flex grew up together, you know, and flex 140 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: used to always be up and even look like each 141 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: other a little bit. I went to all and so 142 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: here it is that when Chuck he went over to 143 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: BLS and flexes with him. But then some situation happened 144 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: and things despaired from over their BLS. I don't actually 145 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: know what happened, but despair that no longer Chuck is there. 146 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: You know, Flect was there right after Chuck, But Chuck, 147 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: I mean Flex, that kind of um sped off. I 148 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: had a backup DJ every time was on the road, 149 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: and Flex your backup DJ. No, no, no. The first 150 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: backup DJ for me was seeing me being the Jungle 151 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: Brothers because back at a D eight there was a 152 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: Dope Champ tour that I was on with on Boogie 153 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: Down production and I needed somebody to know feeling for 154 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: me for the whole summer. So that was Sammy B. 155 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: But after I finished that, now Sammy is taken off 156 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: of the Jungle What was they doing their thing? So 157 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: now I still have to have time off and going 158 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: away to doing gigs or doing conventions or whatever it is. 159 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: So I need another backup DJ. So that's when I 160 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: had interests in Flex, and I asked him to come in. 161 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: He said, problem, So let me let me like I said, 162 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: let me be bouncing around a little bit. Right at 163 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: what point? Because at one point in hip hop, it 164 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: felt like the DJ was the star and like the 165 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: rapper or the MC was really the hype man. But 166 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: it was always like the DJ. At what point of 167 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: hip Hop did it? Did that change when the recording 168 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: field came in? Why? Because you remember in the beginning, 169 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: when you heard certain groups like Flash and the Furious Facts. 170 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: You know, um you heard of Rocket first, yeah, you know, 171 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: and there were certain times you heard the DJ name 172 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: first because he was the forefront. But the DJ is 173 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: not being on the record, so who they're paying attention 174 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: to the person who's on the record. So that's where 175 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: the navitive had changed that people start paying more attention 176 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: on the MC that we call at that time become 177 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: known as rappers, and that's where everybody started looking more 178 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: at the rappers. But the DJ was always in the 179 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: forefront because the MC master ceremonies was the hype man 180 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: or you know, the crowd participator. And know, in the 181 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: very beginning, hip hoply was just like simple little rhymes, 182 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: you know. But then here it is, it got to 183 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: the next step. And I give credit to people like Melly, 184 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: Mellow Cast, you know, couple others. You know, they're the 185 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: ones that started making more lyrical and that's why it 186 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: transcend to people start making records and everybody come out again. 187 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: You know the songs. Now that's this famous party right, 188 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: this one they say, this is the first hip hop 189 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: party that happened uptown. Were you there? No? Okay, cool? 190 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: I'm glad you ket kept it real because I don't 191 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: be knowing who was there, but Grandma's cast out here 192 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: and said he said he was a kid there as 193 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: a kid. He was there. He said he was there 194 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: as a kid. Okay, if if I remember Greig last 195 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: what we said? So because what was it like? Just 196 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: like fifty people there? Did you hear about this party? 197 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: Like the first party? I let on, you know, because 198 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: no understand, I didn't grow up. I went to school 199 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: in the Bronx, but I grew up in Hall them. Okay, 200 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: I went to school in the bron Clinton High School. 201 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm in a tough time up there in Clinton High School. 202 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: And it was all boys quote unquote during the game, right, 203 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: so you know when things start quiet down and then 204 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, they started having these different functions. I used 205 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: to always talk about her her, who was her? So 206 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: the fun us and no alarm me. You know, we 207 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: all went to check out her for the first time 208 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: and I caught the book at the same time, called 209 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: the brother from him. I was sneaking downtown to the 210 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: clubs we used under age, you had to be dress 211 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: a public, actually wear my older brother clothes. And I 212 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: was checking out the DJ's downtown and checking out her uptown. 213 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: So I learned the difference of the disco downtown because 214 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: because this is the downtown, they won't playing hip hop. No, No, 215 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: there was no such thing the dance student type crowd, 216 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: not totally, because you know, I was certain clubs I 217 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: was playing. I was not playing, but I was going 218 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: to was you know, a combination of R and B 219 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: and dance moment some disco. Okay, so you're talking about 220 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: student fifty four, that's a whole different range. Okay, when 221 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: you're talking about these clubs like No Greens, Uh, Superstar Cafeteria, 222 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: Hotel Diplomat, I mean the list is no. You know, 223 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: that was more for the urban crowd, the urban clouds 224 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: downtown that was going downtown uptown. Herd would play a 225 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: twist of it, but add some other different elements. You know, 226 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: a lot of red type of sounds that you know, 227 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,479 Speaker 1: become known as classics to this day, like the Mexican 228 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: like it's just begun like Apache, you know, in feborous otherways, 229 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, and you also had other DJs that was 230 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: right under him, the original DJ Clark Kent, not from 231 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: the book name, really original DJ Clark Kent, the original 232 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: DJ Clark. I didn't know this, do this of course, 233 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: get confused, but the original that was under her. And 234 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: there was another guy he passed away name knew it 235 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: Timmy Wow. So they were the one. And then you 236 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: know there was time that you know, Koklevok who was 237 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: considered the first MC. Yeah he was k was Kirk's MC. 238 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: Here it is. He would get on the turntables a 239 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: couple of times, you know, even a couple of times 240 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: her would get on the microphone, you know. So that's 241 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: really was everybody just showing their style, their own flair. 242 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: So I was learning the difference of downtown and uptown 243 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: and that study booth and then when the when the 244 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: Bam Bought a coming like in me between youth covering 245 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: the downtown is a difference uptown? Is this now? I 246 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: did not know about Ben Bought until a little later on. 247 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: And because right after Coolhood, the next wave DJs came in, 248 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: like Flash Rest in Peace a j Uh the the 249 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: El Brother was featuring grammars at Theodore as the youngest Um. 250 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: The listens Long Guy named smokey Um. There's so many 251 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: of them, and I was handing so much about Bam, 252 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: but Band was on the other side of the Bronx. 253 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: How I got to learn more about Band because my 254 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: cousin Jazz, along with the family, had moved from down 255 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: in the Hallam and moved up in the Bronx for 256 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: the Bronx the Bronx River. The first person that Um 257 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: Jazzy got down with was a number person rest in peace, 258 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: name disco King Mario. And when you got down with Mario, 259 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: Maam started handing about, Well, who was this young guy 260 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: that's over there? Mario? He said, the family is just 261 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: moving the plodect. He said, we're supposed to be doing 262 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: over there. He supposed to be with us. So he 263 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: went and got a hold Jazz. And that's how Jazz 264 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: spoke prior to Nation being formed. Yes, no, I mean 265 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: Jude Nation was already formed. But you know a lot 266 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: of time Jazz got up, you know, he got down 267 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: and then they brought me in. And how how is 268 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: is that? Like? Um, I never got to see the Zulu. 269 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: I never got to see the unity that I mean, 270 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: because you know, people say what's down, you know things 271 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: about the gangs at that time like that, you know, 272 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: the Black Space, but it was it was a formal thought. 273 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: It was a part of the Black spage. He was 274 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: down with I think Black Space or the Baby Space, 275 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: anything under that affiliation. You know, people people, and that 276 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: turned into Zula Nation. Well here it is. When the 277 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: gangs died down, he had from a group called the Organization. 278 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: I still wasn't around yet. Okay, no, hearsay and I 279 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: heard that, asked about maybe six eight months. And then 280 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: he formed the Zoo Nation. And he started with the 281 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: Bronze River, and then he started to gather formulating little 282 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: by little spread than that. Man, I'm getting schooled, brother, 283 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm getting schooled. Brother, I'm getting schooled. So bouncing around, 284 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: bouncing around like how we always do, wouldn't it focus? 285 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: But when I text Fat Joe the first thing he said, 286 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: I say that, I say you got he got a 287 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: question for Betther Alert. He said, yeah, he discovered Fat Joe. 288 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,239 Speaker 1: Is this true? I mean he probably discovered a lot 289 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: of people. Not probably. We know. I'm gonna tell you 290 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: how this came about. Okay, cool. So I got to 291 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: hear Joe for the first time at the Pottle Okay, 292 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: he was right. Yeah, he went at the pom and 293 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: I don't even know how many times you've been there, 294 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: but I showed him that one time. It was amateur night. 295 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: So afterwards I had interests because I'm wanting to get 296 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: like a promo from him, because I was known for 297 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: playing promos, you know, like the plates type promo. When 298 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: promos it's like it's recorded and they passed it to 299 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: me as on tape you know, and get to play. 300 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: You know. I had some of them passed me on 301 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: cassette and I transferred to the you know through real 302 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: and play such as like people's demos. Basically it's not demos. 303 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: We consider promo because not only that it's demo, but 304 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: it's promos for not for my show, for the radio. 305 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: But they're announcing the um magate points that m amounting me, 306 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: and they're doing their little freestyle in it. People such 307 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: as like d Knights or t R eight Oorators coming, 308 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, just as an example. So um I asked 309 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: Joe to similarm to me, so he did it. I 310 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: took my time and hold onto it until I finally 311 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: played it. And one thing I had about promos, there's 312 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: some promos I had that I usually played them regularly 313 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: like they was in rotation, like records and where it 314 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: got around. Well, well give me you the props for alert. 315 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: I've seen you trying to be humble about it. We're 316 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: gonna be trying to listen. Listen, the man said, listen. 317 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: I it's so it's so crazy because what y'all did, 318 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: what you was a part of what is happening now. 319 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: It's it's so important to tell the history. It's so 320 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: like when I'm texting people from everyone, it's like your 321 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: red has so much history. So this is the the reason 322 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: why I'm like bouncing around. But it's so important that 323 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: this history doesn't be for guy, you understand what I'm saying, because, um, 324 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: the one thing I learned about this new generation that 325 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: I pay attention to is what they would say. They 326 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: would be like like they'll they'll they'll quote a line 327 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: and they wraps like yo, like Jordan's dropped eighty six 328 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: and and the Jordan dropped fifty five and eighty six. 329 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: You're like, you mean, y'all went and did the research 330 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: for Michael Jordan's but you get the money through hip 331 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: hop and you don't know what's happening in the pop. 332 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: You know, why them Jordan's that you got on this 333 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: other section. But you don't know when you hear juicy beet, 334 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: where does it come from? You don't know when you 335 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 1: hear grand Master, like you don't know when you hear 336 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: these certain things. You know. I think that go according 337 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: to the perception. Jordan's example, The perception is you hear 338 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: so much about Jordan, you're gonna look up about Jordan's 339 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: because you're not going to take time to study about 340 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: the um what you're getting into, you know. I'm just like, 341 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: if you can study upon anything in music, you can 342 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: study anything into sports and too industrial, into politics and 343 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: who the people who that was there before you and 344 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: set it up for you to be where you at. 345 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: For a lot of people don't do that. This is 346 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: go by perception. So right, you know, rest in peace 347 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: Kobe right now? Everybody using Kobe name, you know, anybody 348 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: use a famous popular name, whatever whatever they had done 349 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: and put it in their vines, but they're not gonna 350 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: do them. Who can dig deep to see where it 351 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: really ovirginally come from? I mean, why not though? Because 352 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: the interest is not there. At some point we stopped 353 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: passing that knowledge down to keep that interest there. That's 354 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: what I think. Drink you start to help with it. 355 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: At some point, even even if you was a street rifle, 356 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: you wanted to be smart or something. You wanted to 357 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: know something like you know what I mean, Like you 358 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: didn't want to somebody to walk into the room when 359 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: you not know that this person is this person? You 360 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So like when when did rap 361 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: become dumb? Like like I mean, like what and I'm 362 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: not I feel that the online internet, social media will 363 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: control the mind. So today because now you're not thinking 364 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: for yourself. You're thinking according to the perception and what 365 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 1: you're seeing, what you're here or their online do social 366 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 1: media and everything, so you're not willing to go and 367 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: dig a little deeper. You know, people from the time 368 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: you was out with me, they used to always talk 369 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: about their favorite rapper from before and go digs it 370 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: today And so like a halt according to what I 371 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: just said. And it's because like like you had I 372 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: think I think we had something called paying dudes that 373 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: that never stopped. I mean right now they'd up the 374 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: hand dudes, and they're not making the record class and 375 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: they couldn't class, Like, how do you like? Yeah, you 376 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: gotta go to school. Sometimes school they go by to school. 377 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: Wow wow, Wow, that that was deep. That was deep. Okay, 378 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: Caress one comes out with this record. Now from my understanding, 379 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: the South of Bronx came first. No, no, no, it 380 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: wasn't Crane, It wasn't the bridge. Bridge first. It was 381 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: the bridge. Okay, I need you to describe because you 382 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: know I'm it hurt me. It hurt me like a 383 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: grown man. But I was a kid. Back to what 384 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: Harris was struck first, Yes, I always do it, come on, 385 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: always thought it at the South Bross. Then you know, 386 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: maybe I got my memory. I smoke out of marijuana. 387 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: Don't know if people have knew that. Okay, I smelled 388 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: so okay, So the bridge comes um mc sharing at 389 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: Molly Mark at the time. Are you are Molly Mark? Friends? 390 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: Are y'all like ours? We was arch rivals on the 391 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: airwaves and I did not really know much about Molly. 392 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: He didn't not know much about We always had hair 393 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: say and people would read that in between that have 394 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: a coslla agitating different things, you know, just run and 395 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: the only person that I've come out very vocal is 396 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: always magic because he used to always talking nonsense about me. 397 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: Under maybe Magic was about mar Yeah, I mean you 398 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: gonta understand bls. Magic was first and then here I 399 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: come on. And then first I was going after my cousin. 400 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: So when they he said, yo, who this guy down 401 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: to down here? And Jazzi? Who Jaggi rack Jazzie jerking there? 402 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: So y'all started this game radio. So when I came on, 403 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: who this guy here? This new guy, this red guy 404 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: red what red dirt? He called me red dirt? He said, 405 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: just Woody with Peca, you know, and I've never given um. 406 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: I came to the program at the time and I said, 407 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, man, Magic is dissing me. He started laughing 408 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: at me. I'm getting mad now because you know I'm not. 409 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: And you're on the same program. You're on the same station. 410 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: This is a different state, different okay, So I go 411 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: back at him. Wouldn't let you dis some back? No? No, see, 412 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: I wasn't vocal yet because him adance. When I used 413 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: to do, I used to be prerecorded. I should be 414 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: on from eleven to two in the morning, so it's 415 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: just prerecorded, okay. So I wasn't vocal yet it wasn't live. 416 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: But I was getting mad because he'd been thising me. 417 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: So here with this, I'm telling my program back to 418 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: you're like laughing. I'm like, why do you laughing? You say, 419 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: let me tell you something. You guys got right to 420 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: be mad. But same time he doesn't you. He's advertising you. 421 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: So now here with everybody gonna wonder who is this 422 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: person he keeps talking about, and they're going to turn 423 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: the down. So I learned to swallow every time somebody 424 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: coming to me in the street, Yo man, magic this, 425 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: and yo man, he said, I'm heeding inside. But I 426 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: got ahold man. And then you know that changing. And 427 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: then here I had a partner coming seven months after me. 428 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: After I'm on kicks up here come Chuck, chill out. 429 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: So now I brought me and Chuck back and forth. 430 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: You know, after magic me, I still know very little 431 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: about Molly, not much about Molly at Molly's Magic. Many 432 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: friends at least on the same station too, right, okay, 433 00:25:55,440 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 1: bls now, before the Bridge War, it was the roxand Roxan. 434 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, just called it the Bridge Wolf. Yeah, let's 435 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: make some moisture that I like that. Okay, let's go 436 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: um here. It is um during the Rock and roxan. 437 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: I know that I'm credit breaking u TFO Rock and 438 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: roxand even though they tried to credit it so name 439 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: right after and got a female to go after you TF. 440 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm hanging out Russell Simmons office like the floors rush 441 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: producheon and at the time, who comes stepping through with 442 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: Spider D. You heard the Spider D. Spider D. Yeah, 443 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 1: you gotta do your homework. Do my homework too, got 444 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: them out. Spider D came in. He was one of 445 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 1: the artists for Russell. Okay. He came with a young 446 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: lady and he said, you need to hear this, so 447 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: he popped the tape in and listened to It is 448 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: the lady going after Sean Tay. Wait all right, okay, continue, 449 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: continue after the ladies going out to Shante. I laid 450 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: everybody the name of Sparky D. Okay, okay, Sparky D. 451 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: It's called Sparky's train. So we we gotta get this going. 452 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: We gotta make this happening, and going looking for labors, 453 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: everything but over the label was set up. Sparky turn 454 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: the mind said, but I don't have a DJ. She 455 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: turned around and looking at me she said, you're gonna 456 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: be my DJ. I said, okay, I was at the 457 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: white pictures of simple like that, simple like so now 458 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: here it is. I'm on the road with her. And 459 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: who was on the road with Shante was and she 460 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: sharing he used the DJ for Shawn heard that. So 461 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: we was always rivals, but we always stuck together no 462 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: matter what, because I look at it this way. We 463 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: may be rivals on the radio, but were out of time. 464 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: We're from New York and anything go down, forget all 465 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: that nuns together? Yes, yes, got it's what and now 466 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: only that I remember one time, a couple of times 467 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: flying time who was their manager? Where's my moment? So 468 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: that's how close we was. So after the Rocks and 469 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: Roxan died down, here come the bridge. Now she had 470 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: made the bridge during this time from when I learned 471 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: that um Scottland rock West in Priest and Chris was 472 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 1: coming upproaching Magic about something and he just like So 473 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: they got mad because they had it. There was on 474 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: the labels sneaping bad records, but the label dropped them, 475 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: so they run their head and got with another label, 476 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: Rock Candy Records informed themselves as Boogie Down Production and 477 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: made this song, which I think was less than a 478 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: hundred dollars called South Bronx. South Bronx was the answer 479 00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: to the bridge. So now here it is, I'm in 480 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: Latin Quarters. I'm hanging out in that quarters on Celebrity Tuesdays. 481 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: Not the original Latin Quarters. I the one the ninety 482 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: street right, No, the original that's down on forty seven. Yeah, 483 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: you saw a part of it arms sub destruction with 484 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: film in front of that. Um great flaws. Love it. 485 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: Here it is Celebrity Tuesdays orsome too, and they had 486 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: a guy named Dja. He played so here comes Scott 487 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: and Chris. They coming in and they have you know 488 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: what the ASCID tape is, right, that's like a hard 489 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: plate before become vinyl. Yeah, like the stamper before the stamper, 490 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: after the stamper. Isn't that the metal part? It's really 491 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: hard and you only get a couple of plays until 492 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: where is out? That's what dump plates are made on 493 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: the right. I don't know none of that, but yeah, yeah, 494 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: Chinese to be right now, should they pass the ASCID 495 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: tape over to the we put it on. People responded 496 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: so crazy before they went to the end, he said, yo, 497 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: go to pay this from the beginning again it was 498 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: the South South Bronzy, body going crazy over it. So 499 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: after that, here it is. That's when they gave it 500 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: to me. This is for you to play on the radio. 501 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: So now here it is, mind you, I'm still battling 502 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: back and forth with them, right. Another thing is I'm 503 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: playing a lot of records that Shan is on and 504 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: whatever other songs that money was producing. Because I always 505 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: learned one thing. You may be my rival, but you 506 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: give me ammunition for me to play against you. So 507 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: I'm playing them hits. So when I set it up 508 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: for that first time, I'm playing to the Bridge right 509 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: when they playing the Bridge first, and then the South Bronx. 510 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: So when it came to the courts front saying to 511 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: the Bridge, I know South bron South South Bronce that 512 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: woke up in that woke up makes a noise for 513 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: you starting to beat. So then after that hip hop man. 514 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: So that after that, that's when sham in her head 515 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: and he made this record going to and that's when 516 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,719 Speaker 1: the next one came out by the bridges over let 517 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: me wat should I say? What do you know? We 518 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: can need need sharing on this show to be fair 519 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: on this show. So I swear to god I was 520 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: too young to notice was kill that noise considered a hit. 521 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm I'm being honest, and I'm being honest too, because 522 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying being bied because of who I'm down. 523 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: But it wasn't hitting like that. It wasn't It wasn't bridge. 524 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: The bridge was hidden. Okay, the bridge was hidden. Then 525 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: South France hitting killed That noise didn't hit the bridges 526 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: over it was hitting the bridge was overkilled to bring that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 527 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: I would say that. So I understand how you feeling 528 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: because where were you from? From Queen's Yes, from Queens. 529 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: But that's what I need to know. I need to 530 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: know what I need a little. I mean, yeah, I 531 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: probably Queens. Yeah, I'm not moving on because I really, 532 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: I really like as a child, I remember it, but 533 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: I don't remember it to the to the extent. What 534 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: what what? What? Years? These records came out eight seven, 535 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: This is my eighties seven, eighties six, and I'm born 536 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: in seventy seven, so I'm literally ten years old. I 537 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: know I'm following, but I'm not knowing. I'm following. What 538 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: I did remember was it made those that record made 539 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: the tough people from Queens be tough because yeah, because 540 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: if you ran around he was like, I didn't hear 541 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: pete from a place called Queens. That's fighting words, Like 542 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: you're not trying to be cool with me by saying that, 543 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean. So they made a 544 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: lot of people tough from that ship. So there was 545 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: a lot of artists from Queen's and I was banging 546 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: their song. But let me ask you, let me ask 547 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: you something. And this is this is also real talk, 548 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: right because we had care rest one on here, right, 549 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: he was going on the ship. We haven't been able 550 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: to get SCE. We love you Shan. Please stop thinking 551 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: it's crazy about us, but we haven't had it had 552 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: Shan on here. But every time I see Shan, all 553 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: care of us actually speak about it. Although it's not 554 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: fighting words. It's like I don't think they could ever 555 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: be friends. I feel that they've shared the stage since 556 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: the man you can share the stage versus they trying 557 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: to kill each other. I think that in versus this, 558 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: she was not a celebration no more actually feeling it's 559 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: a love hate relationship between the booth. For that, That's 560 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say like that, because now ain't 561 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: that think about it years later? Commercials and ship. Yeah, 562 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: so here it is, you get together and make commercial 563 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: to make a couple of a couple of dollars. That's business. 564 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: One thing ain't got nothing to do with together. But 565 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: you know why I say that's a little different with 566 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 1: them because neither one of them think either one lost. 567 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: They both they won to eat your own Yeah, I 568 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: even had their own opinion. Yeah, you know, they have 569 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: their opinion and the audience have their picks. That's I 570 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: guess that's what matters. Are you a fan of versus versus? Yeah? 571 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: I like versus? Which one he was a fair of versus? 572 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: It's hard to say because I did not fully look 573 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: at each of every one of them the whole full thing. 574 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: But so you know, I'm always school school hard. I 575 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: love that versus when I saw it aslet fire very 576 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: very now, I did not see the whole full thing 577 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: of job and fat Joe and got your back. Huh 578 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: we got your back? Yeah, we got me? Where were 579 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: you from? You know? That's both both of my brothers also, 580 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: and that I felt bad about that. Look joh and 581 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: Joe was really they're really brothers, like you know, I'm 582 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: just playing like you know, although mass majority of saying 583 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: you know, John run that, but dip set and and 584 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: the lots. It almost felt like although I've never been 585 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: to the original Latin Quarters, which how y'all described the 586 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: Latin Quarters, how I've been to the ton of it 587 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: felt it felt. It didn't felt like we was in 588 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty one at all. It felt nineties ish, 589 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: like they had all the dudes on stage and everyone 590 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: knew to respect each other, like stay on each other side, 591 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: even though they went a little too far certain instances. 592 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: But everyone was thinking about the bag and it really 593 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: really felt like hip hop, Like it felt like when 594 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: I've seen who was who was it Melly Melon and 595 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: them against each other on stage and it wasn't Grandmaster 596 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: Cast his crew against uh comin Yeah. Yeah. It reminded 597 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: me of that. I'm looking and I'm like, and I 598 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: remember Grandmaster Cast saying yo. He's still saying yo. He 599 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 1: thought he won. But the crowd, he said, the crowd 600 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: was with them more because you know, they were they 601 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: were pretty are they help? Yeah more, I don't take 602 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: the clothes or some ship and for me to see 603 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: that and then the dip Set, the Locks. It reminded 604 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: me of real pure hip hop, even down to the 605 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 1: point of praying out the fact that they was rhyming 606 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: over certain records, rhyming over the vocals and just pointing 607 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: that out, like yo, bro, that's cheering, Like you ain't 608 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: supposed to be rhyming on that. Even like point that 609 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: that reminded me of real I remember, I could not 610 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: perform with my vocals on like I would have did 611 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: that the crowd would have told me immediately, know what 612 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: was that? Like, you know, reached back to the dip set. 613 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: They from my town hall. I love each of every 614 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: one of them. And you gotta understand that the Locks, 615 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: them guys are battling them seas, yea, every one of them. 616 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 1: You know here it is dip set. They got no stout, swag, 617 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: everything built around, but the tactics is different. That's the 618 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: best way I could put it right. And um, I 619 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: think I think I think the Brotherhood played a part 620 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: of it too, Like I think from what I heard, 621 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: uh Tips that had three different DJs yeah and the 622 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: one Yeah. The individual seas had their own DJ yeah 623 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: like that and they had one. So it just I 624 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 1: know I always say this word wrong, but it just 625 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: reminded me of having that good comment. What was it 626 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: called camaraderie colmorad. Yeah, like you know what I'm saying, 627 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: like when you're all on the same level like um. 628 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: But like I said, I just love the fact that 629 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: they kept it hip hop, you know, um yeah, definitely 630 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: it was good for New York. Right, So let let 631 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: me bounce around. So how do you and Molly like 632 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: squads to be after later on their life? Well, you 633 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: know the funny Parker called Marty and I started working 634 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: together at seven okay cool? And here it is from 635 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: Hot nineties seven for for men. I was over at 636 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: power room or five. I know, I've been at all 637 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: four stations urban stations that you know, nay n N 638 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: seven kiss, Hot ninety seven, power chore like goddamn check. 639 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: That's a hustler's hustler right there. As Marty and I 640 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: got closer over at power Room five, Momy used to 641 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: already say, you remind me of this guy. You remind 642 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: me this guy every time you were saying, because I've 643 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: come out with during the abbreviations the acorns, you know, 644 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: like you know your job motherfucker or pay your making, 645 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: manage what the funk out of here? So I got 646 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: that from somebody my family. So he said, you know, 647 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: entertained you to the abbreviation money or something. And then 648 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: when he mentioned about that he was in a six 649 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: huntry school, I say, brother, cut you? He said your brother. 650 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: I told him my brother's name. He said, that's your brother. 651 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: I said yeah, because if he never mentioned six hundred school, 652 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: I would never know where you get that phone. So 653 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,919 Speaker 1: we make a noise for six hundred schools right now? Huh? 654 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: Are we gonna make some noise for the six hundred schools? 655 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: All right there? I don't know, I don't know New York. 656 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: This is the school to prepare you for jail because 657 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: they don't have no girls in there. You you go 658 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: with there's no girls, This baby jails. JA like, as 659 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 1: we're speaking on that real quickly, what's the the trade 660 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: six terms of school? And the school may have the 661 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: people that's in the show up us. Oh damn. I've 662 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 1: been in both, so I could probably because you know 663 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: this bad then this is was in the resource room 664 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: and special a. You know what that is? Resource? You 665 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: know resource room? Resources? When UNIQ spec without they got 666 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: a holler at the Hall of y'alla, you know, but 667 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: most of us say, we aren't here for behavior. Nobody said, yo, man, 668 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm sucking out, you know. I mean, but I was 669 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: on both wall right now in the school system. Let's 670 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: make some noise for the school system. So you're molly, 671 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: I talked about six hunt in school, and that's why 672 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: I got to see the connection where he saw I 673 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: was getting them says from from my clause, my blubber. 674 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: You surprised do that teaching and he was in the 675 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: um um No, he was just in the um is 676 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 1: if you're a gym teacher, you know help um physical. Yeah, 677 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: so you know that's what you got through. So did 678 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: you all? Because because you know, you know, I imagine 679 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: like like once in the Blue Jay ands to be 680 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: like you remember remember when we went through Like I 681 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: imagine like just you know, like did you and BALI 682 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: ever just like you see the ship that we've been through, 683 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: like ever talked about it. I never really really And 684 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: we've been racking together for a wild because married fact, 685 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, before this pandemic, we was doing this thing 686 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: for about good. Maybe we asked the brother right here, 687 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: how many how many years were doing the old school 688 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: reunions years? I many, Molly and Lance about nine of 689 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 1: the twelve years. It was me rest in Peace, DJ 690 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: Lance and Molly muh And when me and Marty was 691 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: wrecking together during that time as well being on the radio, 692 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: we didn't think about all that nonsense. We're working. Really. 693 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: I imagine like one time, like you would have had 694 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: a bill, but you should drink juice. Drink it's a name, 695 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: it's a nickname that was given. First I used to 696 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: drink Viccardi and coke. Yeah, yeah, that's back then. They're 697 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: invest in piece of my mother. She said, you're drinking 698 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: that cheap stuff. I say, what you're talking to my mom? 699 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: You're gonna drink drink the best top shelf. Go and 700 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: get Maya's room. So I started to Maya's room. First 701 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: I tried but coke, like yeah. Then I tried with 702 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 1: cranberry juice. I like, take all right. Then when the 703 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: violators sneaky d say you're a tried it pineapple. So 704 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 1: then trying pineapple juice. Here it is first that came over, 705 00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: the nickname Poopoo was big voted the volators. Okay, it's poopoo, 706 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 1: not poom poom. Guy said poom poom man, which is 707 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: totally different. Poompum is totally different. Man just described it. 708 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: I we used to say the poopoo juice. Okay, so 709 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 1: that's where we had. Of course, I stopped drinking for 710 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 1: about a year and a half. Now, okay, let's I'm 711 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 1: drink four. You don't don't worry about it. J Yeah, 712 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: Like you call it the nasty? What I used to drink? No, 713 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 1: you you know that wasn't Wait a minute, I used 714 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 1: to drink its nasty anything, but club was the nasty. No, 715 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: what club soda is with the nasty? You got the 716 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,280 Speaker 1: club soda from? No, your ship was a club soda 717 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: memory that I got to look even funny, I know 718 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: how I got the nasty from It was me, you 719 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: used to say. When I didn't get that from you, 720 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: I got come up with you came up Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 721 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: I know exactly what I came up with that at 722 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: that's what I was drinking it because he said that 723 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: he lost weight, and I was like for real, and 724 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, just drinking, but sell a water And 725 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I think you should put pineapple 726 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: back in that motherfucker, because that's this is horrible and 727 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 1: that's what I called it, the nasty all right, Wember, Well, 728 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: maybe be talking about drinking, all right, cool, but we 729 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: one of your son is gonna come in to take 730 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: a shot. One of yall drink or y'all to drink. Okay, alright, 731 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 1: I don't have both of them coming with a little cool. 732 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna do quick time with slime. Come on, yeah, 733 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: do we have greip time and slim? Okay? Cool? Alright, cool? 734 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: And we got a drink too in this game. Yeah, 735 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: we drink too. The fact that us making a drinking 736 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: and not I don't have the glass, but I got them. Okay, 737 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: this is for y'all. Okay, Oh yeah, yeah, what's that 738 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: red alert? What is that? Oh my god? Go ahead 739 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: for you. Okay, let me open it up for you. 740 00:44:54,160 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Okay, that's big. All. Good to 741 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 1: meet you. I got definitely we got the shorts food 742 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 1: that I have on Okay, got master retroll? Ye, yes, 743 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: doing that day, Thank you very much. Should I want 744 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:15,839 Speaker 1: you to told me before I put it over? We're 745 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: giving gifts? Oh yeah, we're giving gifts. We give a gift, 746 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: come on, Yes, that boblem Oh my man, thank you. 747 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah. So that guy said this is the 748 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: oldest rob. Who's the one day you said here on 749 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: the radio? Okay before we start the game, Yes and everyone, Yeah, 750 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: that's he's artist. Oh that's what's up both for y'all, 751 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 1: sottell So alight, yeah, let's do this. Yep, the third 752 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 1: guest to get roses from it up. Yeah, you're literally 753 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 1: giving people their roses when they get here. So these 754 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 1: roses last a few years. Strange, good, open it up. 755 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 1: You literally had to give your roses. Yeah, that's the 756 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, I got you, I got some ship. 757 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to break my ship because I'm gonna type. Right, 758 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: So we got the shots out. What you want to do? 759 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: You want to drink? You're into? All right? Cool, it's 760 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: gonna be a couple, right, Cool. This is this is 761 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: it's called quick Time with Slim is a game. So 762 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: you gotta take the shots for your pots. So it's cool. 763 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: So um, all right, so just how it goes. We're 764 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 1: gonna give you our two choices. You can pick one 765 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: or the other or whatever he picked, whatever he picked. 766 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: So if he picked, if he picked both, you both 767 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: gotta take a shot. If he picked one, then't either 768 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: one of you gotta take a shot. All right. We're 769 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 1: drinking with him and we're drinking with him, so we 770 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: try yeah. Cool. Yeah, so if you're politically correct, you 771 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: pick both. We're drinking about cool. Yeah, we got you, 772 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 1: we got you, we got you. Drink. Yeah, you ain't 773 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: gotta drink all right, So but this is for you. 774 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna ask you the question. I mean, however you 775 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: ask it. Then Dictator drinking habits right, yeah, yeah, Okay, 776 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna stop being you never get the first one? 777 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: Jay z or nas you can pick both now, right, 778 00:47:52,640 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Okay, shot monster you can't come 779 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 1: on back? Yeah you don't. Don't leave the witness, don't 780 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: lead do it? That got cash sign stomach? Yeah all right, 781 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 1: that's what I don't know. Neither Biggie or Big Punt Biggie. Okay, 782 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: Mr Magic or Molly Marr Magic. Okay, Funk Flex or 783 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: Kick Apri kick Capri. I'm gonna tell you right, I 784 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 1: need to know. While from Flex is my man, I 785 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: love him to death, but Kick Capri is so chasmatic 786 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: and so you know, skillful day he brings it to 787 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: the table b DP or the juice crip b DP. Okay, Dad, 788 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:22,359 Speaker 1: alright DMX or tupap drink up? Who DMX the dog 789 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: your Dogs Dog Hot ninety seven or Power one oh 790 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: five Hot seven. I love how you that's very confident. 791 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,840 Speaker 1: He didn't even think about that. He's gorun straight with 792 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot for that. I don't even 793 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 1: know why. No, I know I was at Power for 794 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 1: five years, and I know that Power woke up Hot 795 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: ninety seven because at one point they said they was 796 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 1: only game in town. Yeah he's too last. They had 797 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 1: no competition. But then here it is came over. You know, 798 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 1: hm as you see where it is at now, MTV 799 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: raps or rap City. Oh, I gotta say MTV Raps 800 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 1: because it was the door opener and it's set the 801 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 1: pace for many other people. You know, no disrespect. I 802 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: wish you would have put video music back instead of 803 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: rapp City. We converould say video music box. And at 804 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 1: the guys who write the questions like yeah, that's right, 805 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: got a documentary commend Yeah, hell you pig you up. 806 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 1: Ralph mcdanie something you need him on? Drink Champion juice 807 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,839 Speaker 1: so Boys in the Hood. Damn. I mean he's in one. 808 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 1: So that's the way you in Juice. You got no choice. 809 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: But I don't know about God. He's the party bar 810 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: the party by Boys in the Hood. I'm taking the shot. 811 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 1: You pick the wrong one. You're going Boys in the Hood. 812 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why. Okay, I need to know 813 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: why Boys in the Hood. You think about something that 814 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,240 Speaker 1: show the side the other side of the United States 815 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: that a lot of people don't know what relate to 816 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: day by day. Now, we saw a piece of it 817 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:40,280 Speaker 1: from Colors, but they took it to another standard after Juice. 818 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,360 Speaker 1: It's what we already know. So that's why I'm picking 819 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: Boys in the Hood because it puts something different to 820 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 1: the table. He's John saying, that's the piece John Sick 821 00:51:53,920 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 1: or digital days, Oh my god, he's a hard podcasts 822 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 1: or radio radio Carovessel. Are you serious? This is my engine? 823 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 1: And produce the questions? Man, they get corner I got 824 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: and not because I've worked with him, but we already 825 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:25,320 Speaker 1: know look at the catalog. Okay, one, okay, okay, and 826 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 1: fat just me another question too. By the way, um 827 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:34,800 Speaker 1: Queen Teeth for MC light, who you know I was like, 828 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 1: you brought that up because people forget that. How skill 829 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 1: food crean tell one of the illests. You know, I 830 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 1: understand she took it too many heights and I respect 831 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 1: her now she trail Blaze, but that my game was 832 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 1: so mean and I still don't know the answer that. 833 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 1: I feel like we could drink to that. Yeah, we 834 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:00,880 Speaker 1: drink to that. Don't worry. You gotta bust your brain. 835 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: And nine is a beast because I know there's guys 836 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 1: who don't even want to go against like, wow, wow, 837 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 1: you got drinks. Yeah, I'm ready for that. I'm ready 838 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: to solo solo solo. Listen and our show we celebrate 839 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 1: our legends, and you're one. We want to sell a 840 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 1: break too, solo. Motherfucker spect man, spect. We ain't done 841 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 1: yet right now, this one. I definitely don't know what 842 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna say. Yeah, I kind of do know. I'm 843 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,919 Speaker 1: not sure though it's been you've been even fooling me lately. 844 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:44,359 Speaker 1: Eighties or nineties hip hop eighties. Okay, I'm gonna tell 845 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 1: you why. I need to know why, because you got 846 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 1: me to be where i'm at. Got that not even 847 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 1: it's a blessing, Okay, l L or Komo d L 848 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 1: L the longest lasting hip hop recording artists and modis 849 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 1: my man, you are from harm and I respect MODI, 850 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 1: but L L showed his diversity. What did you call that? 851 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 1: The longest lasting hip hop recording artists? You know, think 852 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:23,800 Speaker 1: about it. Grandmother and granddaughter can go to an L council. 853 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,399 Speaker 1: Grandmother can sing I need love, granddaughter singing hespron Look 854 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 1: at this fan of how many years? That's the analogy, 855 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 1: that's true. I didn't know what came out with eighty 856 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 1: five hespernd came out two thousand five. Yet year Now 857 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 1: if him, it is if the mother's daughter had a 858 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 1: child and that was about maybe become like you know, 859 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 1: going on ten years become twenty years old. The grandmother 860 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,840 Speaker 1: at the time from them thirty years, she was the 861 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 1: one that was rocking. They both can go to an 862 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 1: L L consent. That's yeah, that's the ill point, Max Pose. 863 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 1: I love the balls, alright, this one, this one, I 864 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 1: don't know. No, I think, I think, I don't know 865 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,839 Speaker 1: you're gonna go with this one heavy dal Or your 866 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 1: rock man, Damn why are you doing? And I love 867 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:39,879 Speaker 1: both and they both are so creative. Damn you ain't 868 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: got the forces you know we are. We don't mind 869 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 1: taking a shot. He damn right. I love when people 870 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 1: can stay. You can pass the bottle. Rest of you 871 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 1: start start problems. Question we stop to both of them. Yeah, respect, 872 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: you know they both went that. I respect about both 873 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:17,319 Speaker 1: of them. Lyrically, they know how to go high or low. 874 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 1: They can take it a hide hide up tempo and 875 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 1: a dance matter, and they can bring low as a flow. 876 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 1: Not too many mcs can do that. Too many can 877 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: do that, and them too, They make it happen. Solute, 878 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 1: motherfucker Reid. Respect all loyalty. Huh, Respect all loyalty. No, 879 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 1: you just got me thinking about what my son already 880 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 1: say now and then I gotta say respect, respect all 881 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 1: a long way. No, you may get caught out there. 882 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 1: That was deep. We'll see it. Get you're killing, kill 883 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:09,440 Speaker 1: what you're getting moment it's five as well. It's fire scarface, 884 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 1: ice cube the quem okay public enemy or n W 885 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 1: a public enemy dog open this Kanye Wessel for for 886 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 1: well primo or large pro primo large pro goddamn. And 887 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 1: they both beasts. They're both in beast. No, and they 888 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 1: don't get there just they don't get their just we 889 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 1: have Primo on here, but we need large prof We 890 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 1: need Primo back. Yeah no, they both bad. Motherfucking show y'all. 891 00:57:51,320 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 1: Sip alright, cool, cool stunt. I tell you we got 892 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 1: one more. Yeah, got me sweat, Yeah, man, this is 893 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 1: what we're going. So I just we'll take a shot 894 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 1: first and then my actual last one. Again, this is 895 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 1: the motherfucking red alert man for you. All the contributions 896 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 1: you gave to hip hop, We love you. We want 897 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 1: to give your flowers in your face and tell you 898 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: how important and how great you are to this society, 899 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 1: to this government of our own, to our community. This 900 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 1: is what you mean to us. We love you. Motherfucking 901 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 1: drink champs over here, solo. Okay, the last one, Dr 902 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 1: Dre or paul uh Dr Dre puff. I gotta say 903 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 1: Dre hmm. I wasn't prepared for that one. Why why 904 00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:00,120 Speaker 1: the history that Dre have from man, he was with 905 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 1: world class crew, Yeah, and had transd to so many 906 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:10,919 Speaker 1: of the different entities, and none had to evolve from 907 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 1: row to aftermath, from ruthless to death, Row to afternoon. 908 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 1: I forgot ruthless. Supreme, he's the brain, He's the brain 909 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 1: because he makes pump is a person that can take 910 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 1: the teep a bottle of cash from make it look 911 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 1: like it's the biggest seller. That's how clever he is. 912 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,200 Speaker 1: He's a marketing gene, you know, and he makes it happen. 913 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 1: But Dre and for being behind the board, he's the 914 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 1: one that really makes that happen. You want extra question 915 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 1: right because you just answered that too too easy? There's 916 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 1: one extra question. You don't have to. We don't have 917 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 1: to take a shot unless you'll want. You don't have to. 918 00:59:55,520 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 1: But pop Daddy is saying ja Jermaine Dupris and even 919 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:05,320 Speaker 1: in his class, I heard about that, about that what 920 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 1: do you think? You know? I'm gonna tell you something 921 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 1: because during that time or three of them were just 922 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 1: speaking about they was the power set of that ever hard? 923 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 1: You know, Jermaine, a lot of people don't know have 924 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 1: been producing a long time too. And right the Criss 925 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 1: Course album. Yeah, I mean you know, I remember the 926 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 1: fact that he made me jump. That he made me jump. 927 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,960 Speaker 1: Now he got there was a group that he had 928 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 1: produced that that never came out. Course, Silk Time Level 929 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 1: that came out. Should that show you that the limp 930 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:50,160 Speaker 1: of Town how long he's been putting in. I know 931 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 1: that he's very clever bringing the youth to make them stars. 932 01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:04,479 Speaker 1: Cris course she was rat you know, yeah that's dope. 933 01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:09,000 Speaker 1: But who are you picking, Jermaine Depre puff daddy, Damn 934 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 1: you m t am taking that one. I'm gonna take 935 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:19,920 Speaker 1: a shot for no matter what you were, matter what 936 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 1: answer you give pastor I'm gonna take a shot no 937 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,440 Speaker 1: matter what as do you give your main or like, 938 01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 1: I actually want to see it now because I just 939 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 1: love the puff confidence. As he was saying, he was like, man, 940 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,680 Speaker 1: you're not even on my lovel Get doctor Dre on 941 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 1: the phone, Doctor Drey on the phone. That probably go 942 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 1: from zero to sixteen. Yes, so make it happen. Like 943 01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 1: I said, he's a great salesman. And by the way, 944 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:49,200 Speaker 1: we're also drinking summer strits. It's fired and you can 945 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:58,840 Speaker 1: watch as well. Yes, yes, so um not God got honest. 946 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 1: You're sitting there, you want to watch the battle? Who 947 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 1: you think will when if they was the battle j 948 01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:11,240 Speaker 1: d j U. Yes, that would be very tough. It's 949 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 1: a different kind of battle because they're not in the 950 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 1: seas necessarily spitting and they both was on the records 951 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 1: or three of them was on the record, But it's 952 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 1: more about the records that they were part of the 953 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 1: whole catalog, which that's the whole idea about them. Ask artists. Yeah, 954 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 1: as artists here they can play records as they wrote 955 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 1: and produced and had things to go with. So now 956 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 1: if you know that actually a better question. You want 957 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 1: me to ask you a better credit or easier question. 958 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,360 Speaker 1: How about that? Which out of the three, which would 959 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 1: you want to see Puff against Dr Dre or or 960 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 1: they gotta be prof Dre against one of them? Just 961 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,480 Speaker 1: pick any match about the three. Yeah, let's go back 962 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,640 Speaker 1: to the old school restamant when you put all the minium, 963 01:02:52,680 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 1: that's what that. Yeah, I see who comes out number one? Yeah, 964 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 1: you know, I have it be Puff and Jermaine dupri 965 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 1: and then Dre just comes in in the middle. Yeah, 966 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:15,000 Speaker 1: this is definitely vers So all right, who would you 967 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 1: rather see Puff first j D or Puff verse J Dre. 968 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm taking a shot for God Puff and Dre, okay, 969 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,120 Speaker 1: because okay, I'll respect that answer. I'm taking a shot 970 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 1: for that answer anyway. Slotle Sootle that damn salute. Yeah, 971 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:44,000 Speaker 1: I make it Dad, and they all three they all 972 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 1: three gave me some great ammunition to be out there, 973 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, great songs and playing those records. Oh yeah, 974 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,600 Speaker 1: you give me the right animal, I mean out getting 975 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:58,400 Speaker 1: to feel real good. And that's three regions that they represented. Yeah, three, yeah, Okay, 976 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:04,120 Speaker 1: this is what Fat Joe said, Who invented DJ? Invented 977 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 1: it invented? Yeah. I think that's a good question, But 978 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 1: that come from he said, he said, you need names, 979 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 1: like he's asking me to say that I need names. 980 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 1: It's hard to say because before the culture that hip 981 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 1: hop took place, it was DJ's. Before that, what they 982 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 1: called DJ's but two turntables. I think I forgot what 983 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 1: name they have been called, because they're the one that 984 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 1: took the title from what a radio person was known 985 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,280 Speaker 1: in the beginning. He was knowing, he, she or they 986 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,880 Speaker 1: was known as DJ's in the beginning, and then the 987 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 1: DJ came to them spending in the street in the clubs. 988 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:47,000 Speaker 1: That then they changed it from DJ to personalities, right right, 989 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,880 Speaker 1: like Martin, this is a person now that that person now, 990 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 1: But he would have been back like he's saying, would 991 01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 1: have been back in the days called the DJ would 992 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:58,680 Speaker 1: have been called a DJ. They was and is deep 993 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,520 Speaker 1: to me, this is deep, ye, But no I don't. 994 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,800 Speaker 1: I don't know who really started it. And I know 995 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 1: that it evolved from like dance music disco when it 996 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 1: really took forth more and more. You know who knows. 997 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,040 Speaker 1: Probably could have been the DJ's own radio in his 998 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,880 Speaker 1: past time. I could have been the borns that was 999 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 1: playing one record, one banking after the novel and in 1000 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 1: a big club or a big no hall, whatever it is. 1001 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 1: They were the ones that was in place of a band, 1002 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,200 Speaker 1: because you know, everybody was having bands when they saw 1003 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,400 Speaker 1: the DJ at one time, they used to laugh at that. 1004 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 1: I get out of here. But then the band start 1005 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,120 Speaker 1: fading the way in the DJ started coming stronger and stronger, 1006 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,280 Speaker 1: and the craigs started coming to right, Oh did they here? 1007 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:52,800 Speaker 1: But now I was gonna say, who if you know 1008 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:57,840 Speaker 1: who perfected the looping of break beats? Those fly um 1009 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 1: you're talking about out to you keep it continuous. Flash 1010 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 1: to credit that I just wanted to flashes credit as 1011 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 1: the person that learned how to make a turntable into 1012 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,560 Speaker 1: an instrument instrument. You know he was pushing that none 1013 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:18,840 Speaker 1: he was he very He's like a geek in its 1014 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:24,920 Speaker 1: own way. And make sure that it's tight doing like that. Sure, yeah, okay, 1015 01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,160 Speaker 1: So I got some more questions. This is from other people. 1016 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:30,800 Speaker 1: Ya don't have to standard you don't want it, you can't. 1017 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:36,080 Speaker 1: Yeah you want yeah? Please quick? Yeah you can grab 1018 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:47,120 Speaker 1: a seat. Okay, okay, this is from DJ now, he 1019 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,920 Speaker 1: asked why he Yeah, just makes just make sure not 1020 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,760 Speaker 1: in front of any of those two cameras. Yeah, yeah, 1021 01:06:53,760 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 1: stay the next one your family, yah, him why he 1022 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:05,240 Speaker 1: picked me DJ enough obviously to be his apprentice after 1023 01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:10,840 Speaker 1: master Flex at Hot ninety seven. Because I'm curious shut 1024 01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 1: out again? Please, I'm yea because I got a twist 1025 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 1: to this question, he said, asked him why he picked 1026 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,000 Speaker 1: me obviously? This is DJ enough to be his apprentice 1027 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 1: after funk Flex started at Hot ninety seven after from 1028 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 1: Flexman deal. I'm needing another backup DJ every time we'll 1029 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:37,080 Speaker 1: go away. You said that earlier, right, So I forgot 1030 01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,320 Speaker 1: to name the club. I think it's called the Aftergon. 1031 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,880 Speaker 1: Remember Octagon Street on the West Side and this is 1032 01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,840 Speaker 1: ninety's Yeah that was like early nineties. Okay, Yeah, I 1033 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,560 Speaker 1: wasn't around early night was put Street from the Javis 1034 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:54,600 Speaker 1: Center Okay, okay, right on the street. Jacob javits. Okay, 1035 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,120 Speaker 1: so um, here it is that I was playing for 1036 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,400 Speaker 1: the M series that's in the organization Rest in Peace, 1037 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 1: my man Miguel, and they hired me for that night, 1038 01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 1: and they hired Enough, so I got to hear Enough 1039 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,600 Speaker 1: for the very first time. And I was bevery and 1040 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:15,560 Speaker 1: pressed and was was he DJ and for big at 1041 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,280 Speaker 1: this time? Or no? No, no, no, no no. He 1042 01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,400 Speaker 1: was in DJ for nobody. You was just a DJ 1043 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,160 Speaker 1: doing the clubs. And when I heard him, my life 1044 01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:27,719 Speaker 1: m I was in press. So after being no press 1045 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,040 Speaker 1: and everything, that's when I stepped to the program that 1046 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,800 Speaker 1: say I have another person that I have to take 1047 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,880 Speaker 1: the next fot and that was enough to take Flex 1048 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,439 Speaker 1: five Flex moved on the hot night seven. Okay, so 1049 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:47,360 Speaker 1: here it is next person is enough? Okay, twist to 1050 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:55,280 Speaker 1: this question, I had enough, I asked him. But his answers. 1051 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,280 Speaker 1: But when I whenever I do an interview, I always 1052 01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,200 Speaker 1: go to Twitter, always go to it, And I asked, 1053 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,160 Speaker 1: you know you got questions, you got whatever? One of 1054 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:08,599 Speaker 1: the questions that fans repeatedly asked, how did Red fail 1055 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,240 Speaker 1: when I think Enough I was supposed to be. I 1056 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:17,320 Speaker 1: think he replaced you at seven and the fact is 1057 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:22,120 Speaker 1: that he was your apprentice. So is this something that 1058 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,560 Speaker 1: you're sitting back and saying, man, this was this was 1059 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,360 Speaker 1: something bad? Or was this something you gave your blessing too? 1060 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,599 Speaker 1: I was hurt. I'm gonna tell you what I was hurting. 1061 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:37,240 Speaker 1: Not enough, but I was hurt in a certain part 1062 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,439 Speaker 1: about enough, because he did not realize he was being 1063 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,920 Speaker 1: used as the pawn to move me out the way 1064 01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:51,640 Speaker 1: as a person you bought in. We just okay and 1065 01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,920 Speaker 1: him it is by him not noticing that because he 1066 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,200 Speaker 1: enough French were supposed to do the morning show for 1067 01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,080 Speaker 1: a strong book about to ask that. Okay, I don't 1068 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,600 Speaker 1: know what took place of that, but then here it 1069 01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:07,720 Speaker 1: is he didn't I want to do it. So I 1070 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:12,320 Speaker 1: know he spending time hanging around and programming. I know 1071 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:17,240 Speaker 1: that there was number one. And I'm not gonna mention 1072 01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:21,000 Speaker 1: no names, but there's a person in programming that I 1073 01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:24,559 Speaker 1: never saw at AM. And I get long with everybody, 1074 01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:28,599 Speaker 1: I get long with racing everybody, and I mentioned no names. 1075 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:33,360 Speaker 1: I went to far I not mentioned her name because 1076 01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,840 Speaker 1: for this right here, the name is not even worth 1077 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:43,960 Speaker 1: coming out my mouth. Here it is knowing that it 1078 01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:48,200 Speaker 1: was shaking between me and that person and knowing that 1079 01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:52,280 Speaker 1: they want him because he was the fresh blood. You know, 1080 01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm a veteran that I don't know how many years. 1081 01:10:55,760 --> 01:11:00,320 Speaker 1: So they're looking at the moon too. So they took 1082 01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,400 Speaker 1: him and put him in place and me to move me. 1083 01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:07,120 Speaker 1: And that's what I became hurt, because you did the 1084 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 1: fire thing to utilize this guy, and this guy not realized, 1085 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,920 Speaker 1: and he's being utilized for me to be removed, okay, 1086 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,800 Speaker 1: And that's what I was hurtful a while. That's why 1087 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,920 Speaker 1: he was at That's why I was hurt for a while. 1088 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,680 Speaker 1: And now I have to ask because I gotta be 1089 01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, so where is because Flex is also a 1090 01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,760 Speaker 1: person you brought in this game. West Flex, West, Chuck 1091 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,920 Speaker 1: chill out during all this happening, all the air telling 1092 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:36,560 Speaker 1: you Flaster was still at the station, you know, Flexson 1093 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,200 Speaker 1: doing the Chuck is over there at Kiss at the time. 1094 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:44,599 Speaker 1: You know, Um, I know they told me that after 1095 01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,720 Speaker 1: they moved me out, did they say, now even you 1096 01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,120 Speaker 1: can go ahead and just through the twelve o'clock. Remember 1097 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,840 Speaker 1: I had two ships and the old school noon and 1098 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,080 Speaker 1: the five o'clocks you ride, they say you even can 1099 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,400 Speaker 1: continue on the old school noon or you can go 1100 01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:00,439 Speaker 1: over there to kiss. So what I did. I took 1101 01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,760 Speaker 1: a break for about three months to clear my head 1102 01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,519 Speaker 1: and then I reconsidered coming back to kiss. And that's 1103 01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,720 Speaker 1: what that means. I'm like, you both want to say 1104 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:21,439 Speaker 1: something good. I want to make sure you clear shift 1105 01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 1: to shift to something else. Okay, you get you right, 1106 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,600 Speaker 1: because I mean I just want to clear it up 1107 01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,800 Speaker 1: because that's where I god like, I'm sorry, so sorry, 1108 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 1: Like you know, Twitter is the most I don't want 1109 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,040 Speaker 1: to say negative, but it's the most like straight to 1110 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,559 Speaker 1: the point. Like so when I when I interview anybody, 1111 01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,560 Speaker 1: I don't go to the ground. I go I go 1112 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,560 Speaker 1: to Twitter because Twitter gonna tell me everything. And what 1113 01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:51,600 Speaker 1: Twitter was like, yo, everyone always felt it was a 1114 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:56,600 Speaker 1: certain move, one enough part that wasn't wasn't right, like 1115 01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,720 Speaker 1: like certainly it just wasn't right. And we have never 1116 01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:05,600 Speaker 1: really heard rad address that. You know what? Yeah, you 1117 01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:09,040 Speaker 1: know what's interesting about that people even acknowledge that that. 1118 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,559 Speaker 1: I was like, that's the first question that was asked, 1119 01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:18,439 Speaker 1: even acknowledging caught that only years ago, right, they still earlier. 1120 01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,200 Speaker 1: One that surprised me a little bit that she said 1121 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,599 Speaker 1: I thought she was capping a little bit. You said, 1122 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,360 Speaker 1: Twitter said that, but no, no, no, no, I do that. 1123 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,960 Speaker 1: I do that. I do that for every Yeah. Yeah, 1124 01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,559 Speaker 1: because Twitter just hits me right in them. And once 1125 01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:38,120 Speaker 1: again the perception of how people look at social media, 1126 01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:44,960 Speaker 1: like you say on on Twitter, people want to see 1127 01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:49,240 Speaker 1: the drama side and I'm not showing that, but I 1128 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:54,520 Speaker 1: feel that it's not needed for what to fulfill your satisfaction. 1129 01:13:55,880 --> 01:14:04,240 Speaker 1: I n D. I'm not that, but that you're gonna 1130 01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,960 Speaker 1: stay stay on this and then because because I need 1131 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,080 Speaker 1: to notice, right because Pat Joe used to say something 1132 01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,960 Speaker 1: to me like we still um like like you know, 1133 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,439 Speaker 1: Fat Joe's person who put me like you know, after 1134 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm settled in Miami, He's like, you go see everyone 1135 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 1: that comes to Miami like this is an advantage. And 1136 01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,479 Speaker 1: what he would do. I would see radio people and 1137 01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,760 Speaker 1: he would always be like, you're working in radio was 1138 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,760 Speaker 1: so crazy because you can It's like working for the 1139 01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,320 Speaker 1: baseball Like you could work up tomorrow. They could be 1140 01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:36,360 Speaker 1: like you in Minnesota, you and utaw them all and 1141 01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,160 Speaker 1: like your job is that you either quit or you 1142 01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,720 Speaker 1: could keep going on your job over there. So a 1143 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,800 Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand that that works like that 1144 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,720 Speaker 1: everywhere else but New Yak. Like in New York, they 1145 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:54,360 Speaker 1: want their people to talk to them. I remember, I 1146 01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,760 Speaker 1: remember when even Ebro came. It was like a whole 1147 01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,280 Speaker 1: campaign to get evil off the radio, like for real, 1148 01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,000 Speaker 1: it was like, we want to hear our own people 1149 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,600 Speaker 1: and us excu excuse me. It wasn't even but it 1150 01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:07,080 Speaker 1: was Big Boy. You don't remember when Big Boys the 1151 01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,000 Speaker 1: morning show. Big Boy was doing New York radio for 1152 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,720 Speaker 1: l A. He was giving l A traffic. So when 1153 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,760 Speaker 1: you heard the actual morning show was being syndicated out there, 1154 01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 1: they didn't. They wasn't catching on that that we're looking 1155 01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,520 Speaker 1: at there like, uh, you know, so across last scare's 1156 01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:28,920 Speaker 1: wait a minute, we don't know what last year nigger is, like, 1157 01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,479 Speaker 1: we don't these Bulevard And then we started to notice 1158 01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,360 Speaker 1: they're not even giving us a show. They're giving us 1159 01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:39,280 Speaker 1: a show that's recorded in l A. And it was 1160 01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,160 Speaker 1: just she was just crazy at one point. So what 1161 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying is I a lot of us don't know 1162 01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:48,840 Speaker 1: that part of it, right, So this is business, but 1163 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,040 Speaker 1: it's still it's still personal, Like I don't care like 1164 01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people say, it's it's not business is personal. 1165 01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,800 Speaker 1: Like when you if you say a person's your apprentice 1166 01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,800 Speaker 1: and you you know, have flex, did you feel like 1167 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:04,960 Speaker 1: like support for you at that time? Um, that's a 1168 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:08,760 Speaker 1: good question. Whish I never thought of. Wish I never 1169 01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,519 Speaker 1: thought of. And I don't look for people with a 1170 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,840 Speaker 1: back for me and they were back for me. That's 1171 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,160 Speaker 1: on them. And I appreciate, appreciate you the fullest, but 1172 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be like, look at hook me up now. 1173 01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,400 Speaker 1: I have learned over the period of time I've been 1174 01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:28,040 Speaker 1: on radio to earn my own If I wouldn't have 1175 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,080 Speaker 1: had done that, I wouldn't be here as long as 1176 01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:34,760 Speaker 1: I've been that. So I have built relationship with many people. 1177 01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,639 Speaker 1: You know, I know I gave a lot of people 1178 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,599 Speaker 1: gripe upon my decisions what I do, such as flame music, 1179 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,880 Speaker 1: you know what moves ever made. But I'm looking at 1180 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,040 Speaker 1: I had my vision. So for what is it that 1181 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,920 Speaker 1: you're looking for me? So I says what you just say? 1182 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,040 Speaker 1: Why I bred never give an opinion. I have no 1183 01:16:55,200 --> 01:17:00,320 Speaker 1: reason to give her opinion. That's differend myself to say 1184 01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,320 Speaker 1: that's real ship, that's real because from the outside looking in, 1185 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:06,800 Speaker 1: it looked like Flex had your back. I don't know. 1186 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:10,160 Speaker 1: I don't know this. It looked like Flex had your back. 1187 01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:14,120 Speaker 1: It looks like what you said. They look at that too, 1188 01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,720 Speaker 1: the same Flex have my back? Because no, Flex I 1189 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:22,320 Speaker 1: have and I have a very unique relationship, major respect 1190 01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:26,479 Speaker 1: from each other, you know, but that I don't know 1191 01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:32,599 Speaker 1: what say Flex have on that right? Nothing, because that's 1192 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,040 Speaker 1: a lot of That's how a lot of people look 1193 01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,559 Speaker 1: at it. Like, Um, when people think of the background 1194 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,439 Speaker 1: and seven, they don't think of Tracy. They don't think 1195 01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,360 Speaker 1: of the bros. They don't think of the what's my 1196 01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:48,000 Speaker 1: man name now, Poppy? Forget the guy no no, no, no, 1197 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,040 Speaker 1: he's he's he's not he's not management. Um. They don't 1198 01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,720 Speaker 1: think uh, like you know, the higher ups. They think 1199 01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:58,200 Speaker 1: of Flex. They think Flex is actually and really I'm 1200 01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:02,200 Speaker 1: not all do do respect to Flex. I don't think 1201 01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,519 Speaker 1: that he makes those decisions on the background. I don't think. 1202 01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,599 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I could be wrong. When you're 1203 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,720 Speaker 1: in the public, guy, all kind of stuff is coming 1204 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,560 Speaker 1: that you you know, they don't know the people that 1205 01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,880 Speaker 1: behind the desk and making the moves. You guys still 1206 01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,600 Speaker 1: answer to somebody. You know, we got less of what 1207 01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 1: so I can't understand what they think of because for 1208 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,200 Speaker 1: the left of time FLEX been there. But he don't shake. 1209 01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:28,280 Speaker 1: He make his moves. Then he feels that's best for him. 1210 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,439 Speaker 1: They keep growing. He still got an answer to the 1211 01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,360 Speaker 1: higher up. Now you are enough. You'll ever talked about 1212 01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,840 Speaker 1: the situation or we never talked about what I did 1213 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,719 Speaker 1: that when I came back to kids for the final 1214 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,320 Speaker 1: time before a close down, leave him from power, I 1215 01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,240 Speaker 1: took it upon myself and step into the studio while 1216 01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:48,920 Speaker 1: he was on, and I apologize to him. Why would 1217 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,800 Speaker 1: you apologize? I felt that, you know, I deserve to 1218 01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,599 Speaker 1: give him an apology because I was silent to him 1219 01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,040 Speaker 1: for a long period of time. I wasn't saying nothing 1220 01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,840 Speaker 1: to him. I wasn't, you know, because I felt I 1221 01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,040 Speaker 1: felt hurt. But at the same talk at the time, 1222 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take it to the over ankle. I 1223 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,880 Speaker 1: just stayed away until I just get you. My health 1224 01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,559 Speaker 1: can't coming back over there. Let me go ahead and polish. 1225 01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:24,880 Speaker 1: And that's what I did. Yeah, that's good ship man, 1226 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,800 Speaker 1: this is doing your radio talk. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, girl, 1227 01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. She got deep man, your radio try deep Man. 1228 01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:32,320 Speaker 1: I was pulled in I was pulled. It was like 1229 01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,320 Speaker 1: a wall. I was like, oh, ship, that's just jumped there. 1230 01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:38,000 Speaker 1: So you know there's there's a lineage and an influence. 1231 01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,479 Speaker 1: I don't think people understand that comes from native tongue 1232 01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,719 Speaker 1: and that you're so instrumental in that. Can you speak 1233 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:48,519 Speaker 1: about the birth of it. I have to give a 1234 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:54,599 Speaker 1: lot of credit to the Jungle Brobbers Um the Jungle 1235 01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,240 Speaker 1: Brobbers from what I learned, the Jungle Brobbers and Daylight 1236 01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,160 Speaker 1: saw it got to Meatchop for the first time during 1237 01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,920 Speaker 1: the show. I think up Boston when they got to 1238 01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,920 Speaker 1: meet each other, they felt a similar vibe how they 1239 01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:11,800 Speaker 1: come across and what they do Africa and Mike g 1240 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,439 Speaker 1: who is my nephew, my sister's son. They broke into 1241 01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:20,400 Speaker 1: Mary Bertram High School No part of Manhattan. Who was 1242 01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,000 Speaker 1: also in that school at the same time. You had 1243 01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:28,040 Speaker 1: q Tip, Yeah, Alice Shahi, they had you Robie, You 1244 01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:33,439 Speaker 1: had my man Uh from x Clam from ex Clam, 1245 01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,559 Speaker 1: j blobbo j and Wresting Piece of DJ for their 1246 01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:43,519 Speaker 1: sugar shop. That was always with school Mary Bercham Is 1247 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,880 Speaker 1: this just still open? I don't know what school, just 1248 01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:50,800 Speaker 1: like the one the bust of us talking man. That 1249 01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:56,000 Speaker 1: was the school that you next to police. One police 1250 01:20:56,040 --> 01:21:03,880 Speaker 1: classis I don't want to bridge. So they all went 1251 01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:08,480 Speaker 1: to school there and you know, they was always interacting 1252 01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:12,200 Speaker 1: eaself against something going on. So I remember my nephews 1253 01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,320 Speaker 1: always say, yo, man, we want to make a record. 1254 01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,559 Speaker 1: We wanna make a record. So I thought it was jobbing. 1255 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,000 Speaker 1: I didn't think they took him serious. But the first 1256 01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:24,120 Speaker 1: person who took them in Africa and Mike was my 1257 01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:27,679 Speaker 1: cousin Jos to his studio, you know that was up infront. 1258 01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,479 Speaker 1: She had a studio. He also had Strong City Records, 1259 01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,960 Speaker 1: so they did something. Then my man Tony d he 1260 01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,000 Speaker 1: had a group that came out a long time ago 1261 01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:40,600 Speaker 1: called Bad Boys before the label, and they made this 1262 01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:45,439 Speaker 1: record called Inspect the Gadget. Can you remember that? And 1263 01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:49,439 Speaker 1: that was under called bad Boys. Yeah, group called Bad Boys. 1264 01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:55,240 Speaker 1: Ricke Love who was considered the female beatbox. Um. So 1265 01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:00,320 Speaker 1: my man Tony was the DJ Slice producer. He said, hey, 1266 01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,320 Speaker 1: wait man, I just built the studio in my basement, 1267 01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,240 Speaker 1: you know, so anybody you wanted to bring a So 1268 01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,559 Speaker 1: that's when I threw on my nephew and they went 1269 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,920 Speaker 1: ahead and start getting this stuff going on. Of course, 1270 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, the first record they came out with everybody 1271 01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:19,679 Speaker 1: knew was Jim Browski Jim Brownsky. Yeah, and then after 1272 01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,880 Speaker 1: that because I gotta like that, you know, and then 1273 01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,640 Speaker 1: they just Camet Building Building, and then they formed the 1274 01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:29,040 Speaker 1: first album, Straight out the Jungle. On the on there 1275 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:34,400 Speaker 1: was a record Call on the Run that was named 1276 01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,280 Speaker 1: a record Call on the Run. There was an album cut. 1277 01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:40,160 Speaker 1: Who featured on the album cut was q Tip, but 1278 01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:42,840 Speaker 1: his name was Cute Tip at that time. Um, I think, 1279 01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:47,120 Speaker 1: so okay. And then remember I just said to you 1280 01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,360 Speaker 1: about how Fat Joe and the Unite used to do 1281 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:53,559 Speaker 1: programs for me, So you had q Tip doing program 1282 01:22:54,479 --> 01:23:02,400 Speaker 1: Hold on, you gotta relax. The younger Bubbers did a 1283 01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:06,760 Speaker 1: song called the Promo that was for the radioship, and 1284 01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,760 Speaker 1: then who was on the promo? What's q tip on 1285 01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:14,600 Speaker 1: their on their freestyle for the promo, and then it 1286 01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,439 Speaker 1: went to another set of a promo. Call in time 1287 01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,720 Speaker 1: grabbed everybody attention, the labelers, they said, you know, who 1288 01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,000 Speaker 1: just got a que chip? Who doesn't? And then really 1289 01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:28,479 Speaker 1: caught their attention because n q tip was on day 1290 01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,599 Speaker 1: l are so so on me myself and I called 1291 01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:35,120 Speaker 1: black is Black, called everybody attention, Yo, maybe we won't 1292 01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,640 Speaker 1: get the next guy. We got Daylight going on, we 1293 01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,680 Speaker 1: got young Brobber going on. We want to get the 1294 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:43,040 Speaker 1: next guy. So they're went after Q Tip and that's 1295 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,479 Speaker 1: when Q Tip being shocked around and wind up being 1296 01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:50,360 Speaker 1: on Jove Records, but his um, but his own partners 1297 01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:56,400 Speaker 1: and then for him trifical Quest. So now during that time, 1298 01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm getting real close to Mark, the forty five King. 1299 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:06,760 Speaker 1: Respect the Mark, of course, absolutely he had the Flavor Unit. Yeah, 1300 01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:11,320 Speaker 1: the consists that's in New Jersey Nation, New Jersey. And 1301 01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:15,280 Speaker 1: the group she had there was like t Shabaz, not 1302 01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:22,200 Speaker 1: Kim sabas um chill rob um, let's she peace my man, 1303 01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:26,559 Speaker 1: the patch huh Nordy by nature. There wasn't. It wasn't 1304 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:32,120 Speaker 1: around yet, it wasn't. I'm not there yet. God Almighty 1305 01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:35,360 Speaker 1: Arts was a part of the really. No, they were 1306 01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,400 Speaker 1: managed though by them. They was managed by them, but 1307 01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:43,280 Speaker 1: that was laid only because they were in Boston. And 1308 01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:48,280 Speaker 1: then here come creen Chief you and I why I know, 1309 01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, just keep wrong time, wrong time like 1310 01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,479 Speaker 1: wrong time. Like. The first song she came out was 1311 01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:02,120 Speaker 1: called the Wrath for my madness. M hm. And here 1312 01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:06,200 Speaker 1: it is she a labelmate rid They're like so Tommy boy. 1313 01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,240 Speaker 1: So now here it is I have a relation with 1314 01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:16,040 Speaker 1: Mark relation. So she now drawing into what's going on 1315 01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:20,760 Speaker 1: amongst the groups and she getting in frond. Here it 1316 01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:24,320 Speaker 1: is jungle bobs run oversea for the first time, and 1317 01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,280 Speaker 1: Africa got involved with a young lady who was the top. 1318 01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,439 Speaker 1: And see you over there at the time, Mooney love 1319 01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:38,439 Speaker 1: should just be connection now shot coming now, meanwhile saying 1320 01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:44,599 Speaker 1: African bat bottom discovered. No, no, not African ban bottom, Africa. Okay, 1321 01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:50,240 Speaker 1: this band bottom and then you got Africa baby band. 1322 01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:57,920 Speaker 1: They both Africa. But no after baby, let's take another shot. 1323 01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,240 Speaker 1: I might make it worse. He got me man, he 1324 01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:06,720 Speaker 1: got me man. So like I said, so baby Beam 1325 01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,600 Speaker 1: connected with money Love in the UK because you know 1326 01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:11,800 Speaker 1: they got involved with each other. I don't know this 1327 01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:16,880 Speaker 1: part about money love. Yeah, really no money she was 1328 01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,160 Speaker 1: the top MC. I did too, and no one'll kill you. 1329 01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:24,519 Speaker 1: I just did marriage bootcamp with us. She killed she 1330 01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:32,320 Speaker 1: killed everybody different were playing around an start coming back 1331 01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:37,760 Speaker 1: over here. Meanwhile, before before that, when I was DJ 1332 01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,360 Speaker 1: for Sparky D, he was always hitting or throughout the 1333 01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:42,880 Speaker 1: north who was just in Rock, South Carolina, or that 1334 01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,839 Speaker 1: I came across this DJ who was like the battist 1335 01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,720 Speaker 1: in his part of town and they used to call 1336 01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:54,080 Speaker 1: him short. He do want so he wind up moving 1337 01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:56,200 Speaker 1: up to New York and he kept on telling me 1338 01:26:56,240 --> 01:27:01,240 Speaker 1: about this MC half he had they do sure do 1339 01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,559 Speaker 1: I have artists? Have an artist up in from Crim's 1340 01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,720 Speaker 1: and they got together, Sure you do want to change 1341 01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,880 Speaker 1: his name to Mr Long black Sheet and Long with 1342 01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:16,439 Speaker 1: dress black Sheet. And the reason they caught it up 1343 01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:19,160 Speaker 1: black Sheet before they was the outcast of the native tongue. 1344 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that. I didn't know that you went 1345 01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,599 Speaker 1: to fast hold On, So why would they the outcast 1346 01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,920 Speaker 1: a native tongue? And so natives already native tongue. There's 1347 01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,840 Speaker 1: already native tongue. But you know you're from an attachment 1348 01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:36,920 Speaker 1: that comes a little different from them. If you're listening 1349 01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:40,000 Speaker 1: to how this out, it was at that time black Sheet. 1350 01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:45,320 Speaker 1: The next the next one that come ray after, who 1351 01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:50,760 Speaker 1: was considered the youngster of the whole tribe, and that 1352 01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:56,160 Speaker 1: came through Chris Liffek Baby Chris. You know why we're 1353 01:27:56,160 --> 01:28:03,080 Speaker 1: calling Baby Chris because it's because he wanted to know 1354 01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:09,479 Speaker 1: like you don't edit, so if so, I just thought 1355 01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:11,760 Speaker 1: about that. I was like, people feel that they call 1356 01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:15,760 Speaker 1: on baby Crypta because the faby face. He had the 1357 01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:19,200 Speaker 1: young face. But actually because remember I said there was 1358 01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,840 Speaker 1: another Chris in the valley and Chris Alee. So Chris 1359 01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:26,760 Speaker 1: Alee and Chris like Chris that he was younger than 1360 01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:31,639 Speaker 1: Chris hality, so we call him baby Chris. So he's 1361 01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,799 Speaker 1: the one that brought en that he became the factor 1362 01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:41,120 Speaker 1: and it was just formulated from its own. But I 1363 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,760 Speaker 1: always give credit to his younger public Cordy initiate the 1364 01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:49,640 Speaker 1: whole thing from start. So was let me this is 1365 01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:53,120 Speaker 1: actually I know you asked the question now, but what 1366 01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,000 Speaker 1: I want to know is because it felt like it 1367 01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:58,800 Speaker 1: was a lous affiliation, but you were the figurehead that's 1368 01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,760 Speaker 1: on radio, that's kind of organizing it. Because what I 1369 01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,160 Speaker 1: always thought when they were all signed to you, that's 1370 01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,160 Speaker 1: that's not I don't know that, that's what I didn't 1371 01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:10,760 Speaker 1: feel like that no Trunkle Brothers and Trapical Questions signed 1372 01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:14,760 Speaker 1: to me and and black Sheet. Because I was an 1373 01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:17,679 Speaker 1: executive person, you had a native to just go round 1374 01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:33,760 Speaker 1: it off, round it off, Come on, come on, let 1375 01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:44,000 Speaker 1: me with that ve we gotta start humble, humbled. You 1376 01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:50,479 Speaker 1: know what that would do When I said in the 1377 01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,880 Speaker 1: beginning that there's a lineage and and there's there's a 1378 01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:57,200 Speaker 1: legacy and influence. I'm talking about Kanye, I'm talking about 1379 01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:00,840 Speaker 1: and there's probably I feel like Kendrick. I feel like 1380 01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:04,880 Speaker 1: there's so many people today that are influenced directly and 1381 01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:09,640 Speaker 1: indirectly by what Native Tongues was doing. That that's that's that, 1382 01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:14,000 Speaker 1: and it's a positive impact on hip hop because it 1383 01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:17,000 Speaker 1: was like it was like the guys that you know 1384 01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:20,000 Speaker 1: that's not a suckers, but they wasn't promoting violence, and 1385 01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:22,240 Speaker 1: everyone else was kind of like what they wasn't suck as. 1386 01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:27,519 Speaker 1: You can tell they wasn't. That's what made him even braver. 1387 01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:30,640 Speaker 1: They was gonna be this way promote positivity, but they 1388 01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:33,519 Speaker 1: wasn't suck as either. You know what it is really 1389 01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:39,839 Speaker 1: understand that the culture of hip hop resonate from the streets. 1390 01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,639 Speaker 1: We know that, so you're gonna have that element inside. 1391 01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:46,360 Speaker 1: Asked how the way you bring it to your table? 1392 01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:48,720 Speaker 1: But then there's some people to learn. How do we 1393 01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:52,800 Speaker 1: find it. It's like saying there's some people that's in 1394 01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:55,479 Speaker 1: the mob. Now you know the mob is all about, 1395 01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:59,680 Speaker 1: but they come about the suits that come to the 1396 01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:05,800 Speaker 1: table just about until forever. Notice, So that's what I'm 1397 01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,120 Speaker 1: saying about. You know, some of the people in hip 1398 01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:12,840 Speaker 1: hop culture you ain't got always in the beginning. You know, 1399 01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:17,680 Speaker 1: if you know what you're about, what you represent, then 1400 01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:22,920 Speaker 1: you just let it be. Damn. I forgot the other question. 1401 01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,320 Speaker 1: I had a good one, but I remember it. But 1402 01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:29,080 Speaker 1: let me ask you this one in the words of 1403 01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:33,120 Speaker 1: my man Biggie, did you ever think hip hop we'll 1404 01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:40,240 Speaker 1: take it this far? Yes? Or no? No? More more? Yes? More? Yes. 1405 01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,320 Speaker 1: The reason why I said the norm because there have 1406 01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,920 Speaker 1: been so much turbulence that happened along the way. Get 1407 01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,920 Speaker 1: into this journey, getting into this journey, and you always 1408 01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:52,040 Speaker 1: say to yourself quietly, you don't say that I allowed 1409 01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:55,559 Speaker 1: you say that. God, damny, we built all this up 1410 01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,600 Speaker 1: for this and we're going four apart, you know. But 1411 01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:04,360 Speaker 1: it's always see I'm find a way to submerge to 1412 01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:09,360 Speaker 1: the next factor. What it is. Um it took a 1413 01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:15,720 Speaker 1: vole for quote unquote them. How can I say the 1414 01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:21,559 Speaker 1: commercial world to accept embrace the culture? And I'm saying 1415 01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,439 Speaker 1: the coach is not just the music, but a little 1416 01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:25,800 Speaker 1: bit of everything. But it had to start with the music. 1417 01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,280 Speaker 1: It's not we won the fucking world. Hey, where you go? 1418 01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:31,880 Speaker 1: Hip hop is everywhere? Yeah, but I imagine it wasn't 1419 01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,040 Speaker 1: like that back there. No no, no, no, no no, 1420 01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:37,680 Speaker 1: because mine remember but I was coming on. I was 1421 01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:39,920 Speaker 1: coming on in eleven to two in the morning. But 1422 01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:42,880 Speaker 1: when they saw having ratings was that's when they moved 1423 01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,479 Speaker 1: Chucking Eye down to a more prime time nine to twelve, 1424 01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:50,479 Speaker 1: up against Magic at the same time. And then here 1425 01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:54,880 Speaker 1: it is, you're form a hip hop station Hot nineties seven. 1426 01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:59,719 Speaker 1: That's all day hip hop. So that's not coming across 1427 01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,880 Speaker 1: to the majority. Remember it used to be late night 1428 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,599 Speaker 1: shows for hip hop. Wasn't supposed to be like care 1429 01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:09,080 Speaker 1: for that's what brand the station. I don't know nothing 1430 01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:11,479 Speaker 1: about that in the beginning. Yeah, he was like the 1431 01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:15,400 Speaker 1: voice of the station and like seven when you first fall, 1432 01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,160 Speaker 1: I can't understand where you're coming from. Because the same 1433 01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:21,400 Speaker 1: thing they probably did with Dare CalCon and the same 1434 01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:26,200 Speaker 1: thing they did it kiss that firm Kisum Classic Odies, 1435 01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:29,479 Speaker 1: who was the voice for Kisser from at that time. 1436 01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:35,000 Speaker 1: Recipiece Barry White as a has after him Simpson. So 1437 01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:39,000 Speaker 1: you know you had that voice that show that where 1438 01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:42,760 Speaker 1: it represents. So that's why they why he probably used Chris. 1439 01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:48,320 Speaker 1: He represented hip hop fresh like you know, it washed away, 1440 01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:50,920 Speaker 1: it didn't happen. That's that's the way it looked like 1441 01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:54,080 Speaker 1: to me. Jedi mind Trick, I was a fan, so 1442 01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:56,920 Speaker 1: se Besalge that said, my favorite DJ Premier promo that 1443 01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:59,960 Speaker 1: he made for the read Lercature. Damn they made a 1444 01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:05,439 Speaker 1: whole song just for a promo. Premiere. Yeah, huh yea, 1445 01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:12,519 Speaker 1: let's talk about that, um premiere. You know when I 1446 01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:14,599 Speaker 1: had my office at the time, but the Lord production 1447 01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:18,000 Speaker 1: on twenty nine Street. Here it is a guy named 1448 01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:21,280 Speaker 1: Stuve find used to have Wild Pitch Records and Wild 1449 01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:24,080 Speaker 1: Pitch Records had the group called Game Store right long 1450 01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:27,400 Speaker 1: with your rob Ge and Main saw us a couple others. 1451 01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:32,680 Speaker 1: So um here it is that Premiere just took it 1452 01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,320 Speaker 1: upon himself because you know that everybody always making so 1453 01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:53,519 Speaker 1: many different promol songs for my show told about we 1454 01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:58,640 Speaker 1: we we We're gonna give the lecture his clarity. I 1455 01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:01,200 Speaker 1: got the idea of using him when he was a child. 1456 01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,479 Speaker 1: I got that from the legend that we can spider 1457 01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,160 Speaker 1: Web that was on Video New York when he was 1458 01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:11,040 Speaker 1: on BLS. Here's to have his twin sons and his 1459 01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:14,720 Speaker 1: daughter do promo swam. So by the time when I 1460 01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,479 Speaker 1: got on the radio, I wanted to do something that 1461 01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:24,280 Speaker 1: appeal to the young audience. Wow. Yeah, yeah, it's a 1462 01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:30,720 Speaker 1: family affairs. You know. Blue Ivy is like she just 1463 01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,160 Speaker 1: wanted to grab me like so like you like the 1464 01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:54,400 Speaker 1: first Blue, I like, yeah, that's super dope. But you 1465 01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:58,920 Speaker 1: know I already had these ideas ways to portray and 1466 01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:02,680 Speaker 1: be different and stand out. So that's what's part of 1467 01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:05,400 Speaker 1: the whole point back to what you're talking about. Premiere 1468 01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:08,680 Speaker 1: from Premiere and Gangster. You know Gangster I signed, So 1469 01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:11,200 Speaker 1: Pamier took it apart himself to make that promo for me. 1470 01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,360 Speaker 1: He said it was on Wild Pitch Records. Wild Picture. 1471 01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:17,840 Speaker 1: Uh huh was on Wild Picture that time. No, but 1472 01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:24,800 Speaker 1: live at the Barbecues Barbecue okay, okay, so that's where 1473 01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:29,080 Speaker 1: you first heard not right, uh huh. And you know, 1474 01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something about Google Rest in Peace recipes. 1475 01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,200 Speaker 1: I remember the first couple of times Google used to 1476 01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:38,120 Speaker 1: come up to me at the station and bring me 1477 01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:43,720 Speaker 1: something to listen to. I'd be like, nah, you wasn't 1478 01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:45,840 Speaker 1: feeling it, but I didn't feel it. Yeah I was. 1479 01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:50,040 Speaker 1: You know, that's my quote to tell you, fine, bring 1480 01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:54,120 Speaker 1: up to me when I heard I need I needed 1481 01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:56,120 Speaker 1: to let me take a guess at with records. No, 1482 01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take a guess. I forgot. I don't 1483 01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,680 Speaker 1: have it all right, cool and themony let me hear it. 1484 01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:06,320 Speaker 1: That's the one. The word I'm manifest. Damn, I would 1485 01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:10,439 Speaker 1: have been wrong. I'm glad I didn't guess that. You 1486 01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:15,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't have heard the record. You wouldn't have heard the record. Man, 1487 01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:20,600 Speaker 1: That's why questions you know what I think right know, 1488 01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:23,280 Speaker 1: over the years, that was mad at me because I 1489 01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:27,120 Speaker 1: know they put their rented and making music and such 1490 01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:29,479 Speaker 1: a search and bring you to me. But I've ever 1491 01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:32,760 Speaker 1: be honest. Yeah, you're helping. I've ever be honest and 1492 01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:35,840 Speaker 1: let you know if it's good or not. And some 1493 01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:37,960 Speaker 1: people think I was taking favorites. No, no, no, no, 1494 01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm not judging the person. I'm judging. But the song 1495 01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:44,599 Speaker 1: sound like. But let me ask you something because Funk 1496 01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:48,639 Speaker 1: Flex I I've seen funk Flex stand on this seeing 1497 01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:54,280 Speaker 1: people come up to Flex offer him money and flex, Nope, 1498 01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:56,880 Speaker 1: I play a record if it's dope and that's it. 1499 01:37:57,680 --> 01:37:59,960 Speaker 1: Have you ever been offered money so many a times? 1500 01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:06,120 Speaker 1: Come the time? Know, I told him I piped myself. 1501 01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:11,160 Speaker 1: I think you gotta make some noise for that. I love. 1502 01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:17,439 Speaker 1: Put Mike down, Mike down right, Yeah, go ahead myself. 1503 01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:22,960 Speaker 1: This is what I learned. Once you receive, you are 1504 01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:27,160 Speaker 1: being hunt yep. So I'm not gonna let nobody go 1505 01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:28,880 Speaker 1: and do that for me. I don't care how much 1506 01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:31,040 Speaker 1: you put it in. And they can call me stilly, stupid, 1507 01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:34,200 Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? But let me ask you. This 1508 01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:38,519 Speaker 1: is real talk. This is I see the guard. What 1509 01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:40,200 Speaker 1: is it like when a person come up to y'all 1510 01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:42,400 Speaker 1: to say, can you play this like I got, you know, 1511 01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:46,280 Speaker 1: two hundred or whatever? What is it? Your integrity feels 1512 01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:49,439 Speaker 1: like it's being taken away because I feel like I 1513 01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:52,840 Speaker 1: feel that as a insult. I feel that in suck 1514 01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:56,760 Speaker 1: because you feel like this is beautiful debate. But I'm 1515 01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:59,360 Speaker 1: taking I'm taking the bait. Okay, why I gotta take 1516 01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:03,160 Speaker 1: the bait mine and take what I believe in his crap, 1517 01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:08,880 Speaker 1: you know, disrespecting your credibility, you know, your credibility and 1518 01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:12,240 Speaker 1: shot oh, you ain't gonna play with d get paid 1519 01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:15,160 Speaker 1: for but not no, no, because I remember there was 1520 01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:22,040 Speaker 1: this DJ list that came out names his name, and 1521 01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,680 Speaker 1: I remember Flex being so proud not to be on 1522 01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:30,160 Speaker 1: this DJ list and and he kept expressing like, you 1523 01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:35,120 Speaker 1: know why people taking like and I don't remember what 1524 01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:37,679 Speaker 1: it was, but your name was not on the list 1525 01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:39,680 Speaker 1: and flex name was not on this. This is a 1526 01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:44,280 Speaker 1: list of DJs who took spread. This was at the time. 1527 01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:47,679 Speaker 1: I didn't care about the list from everywhere else. I'm 1528 01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:50,840 Speaker 1: New York, so I'm just looking at the list and 1529 01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,559 Speaker 1: flexwer the lists up. I don't know if you'll remember. 1530 01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:57,080 Speaker 1: Flets got on him, was like what are you doing 1531 01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:01,639 Speaker 1: about the Listen about the list? It was I guess 1532 01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:04,040 Speaker 1: it was a label somebody got fired or whatever. And 1533 01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:05,800 Speaker 1: just was like, Yo, look we got we got proof 1534 01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:14,840 Speaker 1: of us paying every certain people. And I want to 1535 01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:20,560 Speaker 1: ask that question, like why why, why is your integrity? 1536 01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:25,400 Speaker 1: And I'm almost positive Flex told me he got it 1537 01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:28,120 Speaker 1: from you, or he said that on the radio, like Brad, 1538 01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:30,840 Speaker 1: they never take no money. I ain't never taken no money. 1539 01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:34,439 Speaker 1: I'm almost positive I heard Flex say that and give 1540 01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:37,360 Speaker 1: you your problem for that. But more moost positive. I 1541 01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:42,000 Speaker 1: can't tell you I take you ninety percent. I remember 1542 01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:43,920 Speaker 1: him saying that I'm from my older radio two. This 1543 01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:45,960 Speaker 1: is not like so we can google this and we'll 1544 01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:49,559 Speaker 1: we'll make that. But why was it that you never 1545 01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:54,400 Speaker 1: broke your morals? You never broke your integrity because you're 1546 01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:59,600 Speaker 1: disrespecting yourself. Number one, you should change yourself for some 1547 01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:04,320 Speaker 1: that's like saying, who this you as an artist, I'm 1548 01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:07,960 Speaker 1: just making this as a compass. To do it, you 1549 01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:12,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't get paid just a certain amount of money, but 1550 01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,160 Speaker 1: you're not getting it because nobody want to give it 1551 01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:17,640 Speaker 1: to you until you get that one shot, and you 1552 01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:20,280 Speaker 1: get that one big Now you're looking for another number 1553 01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:25,519 Speaker 1: ain't gonna come here it is. I want my respect. 1554 01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep my respect, So why should I take 1555 01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:31,600 Speaker 1: that one shot taken? And then before you know you 1556 01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:34,679 Speaker 1: got a reputation out of here, you put a cap 1557 01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:38,120 Speaker 1: on yourself. People know they can good boy you for 1558 01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:44,280 Speaker 1: three because the boy get around. One thing I learned 1559 01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:47,240 Speaker 1: about in the industry, Well you know I just took 1560 01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:49,400 Speaker 1: care of red for this. I said, I saw them 1561 01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:51,760 Speaker 1: do that too many others. I'm not gonna be in 1562 01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,680 Speaker 1: there you know. And not only that, There's have been 1563 01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:58,880 Speaker 1: times even records I did play, or they may say 1564 01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:04,519 Speaker 1: chromequol I broke you know. Um, they wanted to congratulate me. 1565 01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:08,040 Speaker 1: I say, no, I don't want nothing. You want to 1566 01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:11,080 Speaker 1: pay me, how may you do? I've been released part. 1567 01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:15,640 Speaker 1: I'd rather get paid like that for my services, not 1568 01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:19,240 Speaker 1: because of what I just played. Because as a DJ, 1569 01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:23,800 Speaker 1: you stop me if I'm wrong as a DJ, because 1570 01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,040 Speaker 1: you said this earlier. You said even it was my competition, 1571 01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:28,040 Speaker 1: if they had the hot ship. As a DJ, it 1572 01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:31,639 Speaker 1: was your job to supply to your audience, right, That's 1573 01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:33,439 Speaker 1: the whole point. One game got nothing to do with 1574 01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:35,160 Speaker 1: the other. Because I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell 1575 01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:37,400 Speaker 1: you what it was. And now that my memory keeps 1576 01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:42,400 Speaker 1: coming back, it was Young and May's second record, and 1577 01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:45,400 Speaker 1: Young and May second record, New York felt like Young 1578 01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:48,200 Speaker 1: and May, who should have been behind her first record work, 1579 01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:51,600 Speaker 1: what about second record is just sucking be behind it? 1580 01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:57,560 Speaker 1: And there was a track actually track of DJ's that 1581 01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:02,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't play it because they didn't get no paper. Remember 1582 01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:05,160 Speaker 1: that's what I'm trying to tell you. That my memory 1583 01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:08,080 Speaker 1: brought it up. Yeah, that's my memory the summertime, Joiner, 1584 01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:10,640 Speaker 1: remember when the flex was going, I remember it was 1585 01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:15,479 Speaker 1: you were It was another recording that record, and I 1586 01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:17,400 Speaker 1: felt I felt like it was a stance that the 1587 01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:20,080 Speaker 1: DJs was taking. This isn't quiet. Yeah, you know what 1588 01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Damn, I'm so glad. Please y'all to be 1589 01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:25,599 Speaker 1: mad at me, But I ain't dropping the record anyway. 1590 01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:29,360 Speaker 1: Let me bring your up. This happened during the time 1591 01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:32,200 Speaker 1: and happened now, he said it. It could be a 1592 01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:36,360 Speaker 1: collector of us all again the record the same time. Now, 1593 01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:39,400 Speaker 1: I don't really know individually who it was. And I 1594 01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:43,559 Speaker 1: got to word that. But you know what, niggas want 1595 01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:45,639 Speaker 1: to funk with this record, but they said they didn't 1596 01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:48,960 Speaker 1: want They got their hands out for it. Y I 1597 01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:50,880 Speaker 1: end up put my hands out for it. So now 1598 01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:53,200 Speaker 1: if I go ahead and I like this record and 1599 01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:56,960 Speaker 1: I played whoever was having their hand out, they're mad 1600 01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:58,639 Speaker 1: at me. You know why they feel that I an't 1601 01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:01,600 Speaker 1: blocking them because I ain't got anything to do with that. 1602 01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:05,240 Speaker 1: You believe in something, you go, I ain't there because 1603 01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:08,639 Speaker 1: you you're going ahead and have more ammunition where you're 1604 01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:11,040 Speaker 1: out in the clubs, out in the radio, whatever it is. 1605 01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:13,680 Speaker 1: As you're working, I funk with that. Let me just 1606 01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:17,120 Speaker 1: make some let me just place the floor. But let 1607 01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:19,439 Speaker 1: me ask your questions. Do you feel there's a clear 1608 01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:24,240 Speaker 1: difference between industry and culture? Oh big time, because when 1609 01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:26,880 Speaker 1: we're talking about is industry ship, that's industrhip. When you 1610 01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:30,120 Speaker 1: come out Payola were talking about he said the record 1611 01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:35,320 Speaker 1: is high personal and all that and what he believes 1612 01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:38,200 Speaker 1: to stand for the culture, for the culture. And then 1613 01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:40,120 Speaker 1: here it is. I'm gonna tell you it's a tap 1614 01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:43,519 Speaker 1: or the industry too. I'm gonna tell you why number one, 1615 01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm getting many record send weekly. I got to pick 1616 01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:53,200 Speaker 1: and choose sound right. If I don't pick and choose 1617 01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:56,800 Speaker 1: sound right now, I'll just play whatever my ratings go down. 1618 01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:00,519 Speaker 1: If my ratings go down, I get replaced. But so 1619 01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:03,080 Speaker 1: what did I do? I got now down to see 1620 01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:07,160 Speaker 1: what is the right, what is good? And I always 1621 01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:12,120 Speaker 1: set people do this three records. A person who is 1622 01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:17,200 Speaker 1: already established your homeboy or something that you really believe in. 1623 01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:21,240 Speaker 1: Which one you gonna pick? They look at me, say 1624 01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:22,600 Speaker 1: which one you go pick? I say the one I 1625 01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:25,840 Speaker 1: believe in it? They say't why they established first and 1626 01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:28,840 Speaker 1: already got his the homeboy should respect what you're doing, 1627 01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:32,160 Speaker 1: the one you believe in a credibility, but what you 1628 01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:44,720 Speaker 1: break absolutely he killed that and it makes sense, it 1629 01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:49,200 Speaker 1: makes it makes sense. Then if I find your makes sense, 1630 01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:52,479 Speaker 1: I wait for you to come back. As many of 1631 01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:55,160 Speaker 1: y'all know, Drink Chance wants to give flowers while people 1632 01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:58,120 Speaker 1: are here to receive them. Giving flowers and celebrating our 1633 01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:01,160 Speaker 1: legends while they can still smell them. We have partnered 1634 01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:04,040 Speaker 1: with What the Flower to create this movement where everyone 1635 01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:06,960 Speaker 1: can give flowers to the legends in their lives. You 1636 01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,719 Speaker 1: can now order a custom flower box for to someone 1637 01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:13,639 Speaker 1: you want to show appreciation to by visiting www dot 1638 01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:18,879 Speaker 1: wt flower dot com and place your orders now. Fire. 1639 01:46:18,960 --> 01:47:28,840 Speaker 1: I love this, h oh Man, Holy movie Rock the movie. 1640 01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:32,920 Speaker 1: So what's your favorite area hip hop? I know actually 1641 01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:38,160 Speaker 1: earlier eighties. I know you said eighties. Um, I said 1642 01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:44,280 Speaker 1: late eighties, late eighties, because late eighties before self destruct 1643 01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:51,320 Speaker 1: it was I say more eight Okay, Daddy can got 1644 01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:55,160 Speaker 1: the flat top out. It came with popping something pepper 1645 01:47:55,240 --> 01:48:00,160 Speaker 1: was popping. Base came out hard. Uh end up, they 1646 01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:05,760 Speaker 1: came out hard, too short came out hard. Um um 1647 01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:10,719 Speaker 1: who else I could damn boogie Downald Course Modi second album, 1648 01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:15,439 Speaker 1: Everything in the Rockim second album. Um of course Boogie 1649 01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:17,680 Speaker 1: Down had that second album at the same time. A 1650 01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:20,360 Speaker 1: eight was a Pinnacle time and now only that that 1651 01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:24,920 Speaker 1: was the year that Yo MTV Rap came out. It 1652 01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:33,439 Speaker 1: came out Slick iced Tea. Yeah, y. So when you 1653 01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:37,320 Speaker 1: got when you got your MTV rap, you got two 1654 01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:41,000 Speaker 1: major tours. There was two major hip hop tours. What 1655 01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:43,320 Speaker 1: what was those? The one I was only called the 1656 01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:46,960 Speaker 1: Dope Jam Tour. That was Everybody Jam, Dope Jam Tour, 1657 01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:55,640 Speaker 1: Dope Jam Mistakes, Dope Jams. I was like, really that 1658 01:48:55,920 --> 01:49:00,800 Speaker 1: that was rock Kim, Douggie Fresh, Boogie Down, Putting Koo Moo, 1659 01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:07,960 Speaker 1: d Ice Tea, and Western Peace Business Market. You know 1660 01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:11,200 Speaker 1: why because within that summer we did fifty three cities. 1661 01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:16,320 Speaker 1: They don't have tours like that number. The our tour 1662 01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:19,000 Speaker 1: was the tour that was I think it was run 1663 01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:22,479 Speaker 1: DMC in it. No, it was it was Jazzys your 1664 01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:29,000 Speaker 1: First Friends E p M D BEASTI Boys, e p 1665 01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:32,040 Speaker 1: M D Beast Boys. I'm trying to remember what. But 1666 01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:35,759 Speaker 1: they was major two. You know, different type of energy 1667 01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:39,080 Speaker 1: from both tours, but we was capturing the whole summer 1668 01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:43,280 Speaker 1: and your MTV rap came out. That was that was 1669 01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:50,040 Speaker 1: a breakthrough. That was the breakthrough for everybody, come behind U. 1670 01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:54,679 Speaker 1: That was that's that's crazy. That's now the game changer. 1671 01:49:54,840 --> 01:50:01,280 Speaker 1: I saw twice after success, uh the generation I come 1672 01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:05,800 Speaker 1: from with Flashing them and Punky four plus one and 1673 01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:10,160 Speaker 1: a um Curtis blow and no so sorry for it. 1674 01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:18,439 Speaker 1: The next wave was run DMC Fat Boys, Whodini, Then 1675 01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:23,639 Speaker 1: DMC Fat Boys, deny um l came a little after 1676 01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:28,960 Speaker 1: right behind him, and then eight six here comes another change. 1677 01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:37,000 Speaker 1: V kim m um, kim um. What I was just saying, 1678 01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:41,479 Speaker 1: boogie down production Salt and Pepper a year right year 1679 01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:46,479 Speaker 1: before A six heavy d come and play doug you 1680 01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:49,160 Speaker 1: first tried coming out because the show by Dougie first 1681 01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:52,080 Speaker 1: came out of eight five, you know, brought three more 1682 01:50:52,160 --> 01:50:54,280 Speaker 1: years and how many years that the show? But not 1683 01:50:55,000 --> 01:51:01,280 Speaker 1: then your forty um now here is after that hour 1684 01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:05,000 Speaker 1: coming into the late eighties. After that eighty eight, here 1685 01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:10,760 Speaker 1: comes the native tongue. Ever after that native tone Ever, 1686 01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:15,160 Speaker 1: then you're going into early nineties. Was the grimmy Ever 1687 01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:20,160 Speaker 1: does affect the Lords of the Underground, you know, and 1688 01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:23,519 Speaker 1: several other casts that are similar to that you also 1689 01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:25,960 Speaker 1: have from people that had the skills and the styles, 1690 01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:33,200 Speaker 1: not fool nickings. We don't prove they're coming to they're 1691 01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:37,080 Speaker 1: coming soon too. Oh yeah, that's only nineties. They're not 1692 01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:41,760 Speaker 1: here to coming to ninety three, ninety four, ninety five. Yeah. Come. 1693 01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:44,600 Speaker 1: And also respect to the West coast, cause they was 1694 01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:49,400 Speaker 1: holding down only nineties. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, they was 1695 01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:52,519 Speaker 1: holding down a head. It was holding down heavy. And 1696 01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:56,760 Speaker 1: because Snoop came out hard and early nineties, that deep 1697 01:51:56,800 --> 01:52:01,760 Speaker 1: cover changed again, you know, soldier, so it's a midship yeah, 1698 01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:10,240 Speaker 1: now coming into it within ninety the bad boy ever ever, 1699 01:52:11,479 --> 01:52:18,559 Speaker 1: you got people from down outcast, outcast, you got change. 1700 01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:21,720 Speaker 1: So we kept seeing how everything kept with revolving, and 1701 01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:25,639 Speaker 1: that was my job to make sure that I'm listening, 1702 01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:27,960 Speaker 1: paying attention. What is it right for me to go 1703 01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:32,120 Speaker 1: in for sound real quick? I'm sorry? Yeah, because also 1704 01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:38,120 Speaker 1: that ninety five Nies six hours two people came out 1705 01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:41,560 Speaker 1: and your man had a different type of sound and 1706 01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:44,240 Speaker 1: were on his show. So we gotta give him something 1707 01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:46,880 Speaker 1: spect because there ain't nobody here, no ship like that. 1708 01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:49,840 Speaker 1: When they put on that chill him. Oh yeah, that's 1709 01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:53,679 Speaker 1: ninety seven, that's seven yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1710 01:52:54,640 --> 01:53:00,519 Speaker 1: school and we was outside. Yeah yeah, what I'm saying, 1711 01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:12,880 Speaker 1: please get no flowers because following was a game changing 1712 01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:16,280 Speaker 1: that Permi Premier I said. I heard he has a 1713 01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:18,920 Speaker 1: video of mad shows from back in the days and 1714 01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:25,280 Speaker 1: he won't give anyone any copies. Premier wants them. Is 1715 01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:28,280 Speaker 1: that true? Are you're sitting around with the golden arches 1716 01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:33,559 Speaker 1: of documentaries right now? He's making a documentary more news 1717 01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:37,560 Speaker 1: that he's loving. So that is a yes, you do have. 1718 01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:42,320 Speaker 1: I have a great selection. I got a great selection 1719 01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:45,880 Speaker 1: of that, and even from the beginning stages. That's what 1720 01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:48,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying of all for thees, not not putting with 1721 01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:54,880 Speaker 1: my friend, not visual audio audio audio. So then that's 1722 01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:56,760 Speaker 1: how we take it to Netflix. Were just making a cat. 1723 01:53:56,840 --> 01:54:00,679 Speaker 1: We're making cartoons. Yeah, animazet this money right the photos 1724 01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:03,479 Speaker 1: for it? You make that animated cause you got the 1725 01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:09,160 Speaker 1: audio already. Yeah yeah, I don't have no vision. I 1726 01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:13,639 Speaker 1: was recording all the parties on the jams in the beginning. 1727 01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:17,840 Speaker 1: That's priceless. Talking about we've been talking about you know, 1728 01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:21,639 Speaker 1: getting int Oh you gotta do that. I've been trying 1729 01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:24,160 Speaker 1: to expose him that I have been We've been talking about, 1730 01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, creating some content and putting some consent out. 1731 01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:29,640 Speaker 1: But we've got some people to connect you all with 1732 01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:37,080 Speaker 1: it if you need people. Yeah. Yeah, this is a 1733 01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:39,520 Speaker 1: legends legend, just like cas when we had cats here, 1734 01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:46,120 Speaker 1: allegend legends, cash cash, We're supposed to have Mellie, Mellie me, 1735 01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:49,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna come back to He's gonna come to the show. Yeah. Yeah, 1736 01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:52,360 Speaker 1: but I just I just I just love this, these 1737 01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:57,040 Speaker 1: history lessons that you we need it. Yeah, appreciate that 1738 01:54:57,160 --> 01:54:59,520 Speaker 1: you have on this platform for people to come in here. Yeah, 1739 01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:02,080 Speaker 1: because know what's the crazy thing is it was like, 1740 01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:05,720 Speaker 1: you know, we love how do they seven? We love 1741 01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:08,920 Speaker 1: how one of five? We love? But what it is 1742 01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:13,920 Speaker 1: is it's for the newest, hottest people. But what's about 1743 01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:16,400 Speaker 1: the people who've been here? And we don't we deserve off? 1744 01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:19,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like like like and that's 1745 01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:21,840 Speaker 1: when we made our platform and you know, help me 1746 01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,440 Speaker 1: I'll talk to I was like, man, basically you know, 1747 01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:27,320 Speaker 1: he based Rock the Bells off of what Drink Chance 1748 01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:29,760 Speaker 1: was starting and respectful where that's my man, Like you 1749 01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:33,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean? But we felt obligated, like you 1750 01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:35,240 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, and it's easier to talk 1751 01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:37,600 Speaker 1: to It's easier to talk to legend, not to this 1752 01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:40,480 Speaker 1: the new generation. But you know, when you're coming up, 1753 01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:42,720 Speaker 1: you're like, yo, man, so how was your day? They'd 1754 01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:45,800 Speaker 1: be like good, Like homeboy, I don't want to talk 1755 01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:47,240 Speaker 1: to you. Let's get the funk out of here, like 1756 01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:50,720 Speaker 1: like just just shot like like this is real grown 1757 01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:54,040 Speaker 1: up conversations. And the thing about it is, in every 1758 01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:58,200 Speaker 1: other genre, I've never heard the word washed up or 1759 01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:02,160 Speaker 1: over the hill. They don't say that in no genre, bro, 1760 01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:04,960 Speaker 1: only than us, And I gotta change that narrative. We 1761 01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:08,800 Speaker 1: gotta change that narrative us, all of us collectively, because 1762 01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:12,160 Speaker 1: anywhere else, even when you take your food home and 1763 01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:14,600 Speaker 1: you eat it the next day, it's called season. It 1764 01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:17,680 Speaker 1: ain't call washed up. You understand what I'm saying. So 1765 01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:20,320 Speaker 1: we wanted to change that trajectory. And I think we 1766 01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:22,280 Speaker 1: all you know what I'm saying. This is one of 1767 01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:25,120 Speaker 1: those times, man, we were really, really, really really proud 1768 01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:27,520 Speaker 1: to have a legend like you right alert in front 1769 01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:30,360 Speaker 1: of us and giving us the story. You ain't bullshitting us. 1770 01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:34,920 Speaker 1: It's not one time. Yeah, and we're gonna make so long, 1771 01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:36,400 Speaker 1: I got a couple more questions. We're gonna make some 1772 01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:40,960 Speaker 1: looking for you. I'm just gonna take an actual shot 1773 01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:42,760 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to get your sons drunk. I can't 1774 01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:45,200 Speaker 1: get you drunk, so I gotta, I gotta, I gotta 1775 01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:48,520 Speaker 1: technically poltically get you drunk. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1776 01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:52,880 Speaker 1: I can see I can see you ain't playing. Yeah, 1777 01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:57,880 Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely. Before before we talked about the j enough 1778 01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:03,360 Speaker 1: in radio, right, what I wanted to act like if 1779 01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:05,920 Speaker 1: I was in high school? Right, I was in high 1780 01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:12,800 Speaker 1: school in two thousand one, Right, and in that time, Pop, 1781 01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:18,120 Speaker 1: you was on uh two times in the dead Old 1782 01:57:18,160 --> 01:57:21,480 Speaker 1: School Letting noon and five o'clock Free Rod. So when 1783 01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:23,880 Speaker 1: you was first talking about when this is something that 1784 01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:25,760 Speaker 1: I don't understood, that I didn't know you might have 1785 01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:29,920 Speaker 1: to be you might you might have to be careful. Look, 1786 01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:35,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna when when you was going when you was 1787 01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:38,240 Speaker 1: going back and forth with Molly Mall and them, right, 1788 01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:41,520 Speaker 1: you said you was on eleven and two at first 1789 01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:44,000 Speaker 1: year A. Right, So how was the transition from being 1790 01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:47,200 Speaker 1: eleven to two at w BLS to being to go 1791 01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:52,640 Speaker 1: into two slots on hot ninety seven per day, Old 1792 01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:56,800 Speaker 1: School at noon and five o'clock free rode because to me, 1793 01:57:57,000 --> 01:57:58,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I've never heard of it 1794 01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:02,040 Speaker 1: a day where DJ goes on twice a day on 1795 01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:08,600 Speaker 1: a daily kind of basis on like hip hop radio. Okay, Now, 1796 01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:11,280 Speaker 1: what I had a chance to do during the time 1797 01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:15,480 Speaker 1: that Kiss from first the first amount of time and 1798 01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:18,200 Speaker 1: Kiss FM was eleven jaiar straight and that was weekends. 1799 01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:21,560 Speaker 1: First it was just Saturday. Then I started having Friday 1800 01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:24,880 Speaker 1: and Saturday. When you were on late night from M 1801 01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:28,080 Speaker 1: nine to troll as they considered late night, I was 1802 01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:31,040 Speaker 1: being more edgy because I'm playing for a jungle audience. 1803 01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:33,360 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I had a chance to 1804 01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:38,520 Speaker 1: build up my name. Your name means a lot when 1805 01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:42,640 Speaker 1: it come across the airwaves. So now they're looking upon 1806 01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:46,880 Speaker 1: the audience that you had. Can you bring them to 1807 01:58:47,120 --> 01:58:51,680 Speaker 1: another station more prime time? Prime time is five o'clock 1808 01:58:52,040 --> 01:58:54,120 Speaker 1: is the second highest cuma of the day. The first 1809 01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:57,520 Speaker 1: highest cuman is the morning, the second highest is the 1810 01:58:57,560 --> 01:59:01,440 Speaker 1: afternoon drive. So that's why they created because they didn't 1811 01:59:01,480 --> 01:59:05,640 Speaker 1: have it before. They created the five o'clock freeback and 1812 01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:13,840 Speaker 1: you started that. Yes, you don't have a different times 1813 01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:23,920 Speaker 1: School doing the time. There was somebody else during the 1814 01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:27,760 Speaker 1: Old School at New yor Hot ninety seven um God 1815 01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:30,920 Speaker 1: named Glenn Fisher, but he was no more asked for 1816 01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:36,040 Speaker 1: like dance house music, so they weren't changed that because 1817 01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:38,400 Speaker 1: it was one day they had me do something. I 1818 01:59:38,560 --> 01:59:41,320 Speaker 1: forgot what day it was, and they heard the rovie 1819 01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:46,040 Speaker 1: to old School. I thank And that's when they had 1820 01:59:46,080 --> 01:59:50,240 Speaker 1: me in mind. Not before that. Remember, in the beginning 1821 01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:52,880 Speaker 1: of nineteen six in New York there was a big 1822 01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:57,320 Speaker 1: bad bliss. Okay, I just came home with ninety six. 1823 01:59:57,480 --> 02:00:09,680 Speaker 1: I was probably jugging off too much information. I'm sorry now. 1824 02:00:09,880 --> 02:00:13,000 Speaker 1: It was as the Blue say bad that when the 1825 02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:16,480 Speaker 1: women's couldn't come to the station because she comes from Jersey. 1826 02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:20,320 Speaker 1: So they asked me, can you come down and do 1827 02:00:20,480 --> 02:00:26,320 Speaker 1: that shift? So I did a whole shift, just mixing 1828 02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:35,680 Speaker 1: old school, William. I was combined during old school and 1829 02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:41,080 Speaker 1: new stuff. I was combined for that four hours. Here 1830 02:00:41,160 --> 02:00:43,640 Speaker 1: it is. They took care of me for that shift, 1831 02:00:44,200 --> 02:00:45,840 Speaker 1: and they say we want to appoint you to do 1832 02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:48,120 Speaker 1: the old School because we heard what you can do 1833 02:00:48,800 --> 02:00:50,880 Speaker 1: and we want to bring something to the table. So 1834 02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:53,880 Speaker 1: now here it is, I'm getting the audience that grew 1835 02:00:53,920 --> 02:00:57,280 Speaker 1: up with me from the Kiss at M and I'm 1836 02:00:57,320 --> 02:00:59,480 Speaker 1: appealing to the audience that are listening to me right 1837 02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:03,120 Speaker 1: now on the hot nineties seven, So I'm having both audience. 1838 02:01:03,840 --> 02:01:05,960 Speaker 1: There were some young people dash spent time listening to 1839 02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:08,440 Speaker 1: the Old School. Now you know why, because that's really 1840 02:01:08,440 --> 02:01:13,440 Speaker 1: they got a lot of their samples as he studied 1841 02:01:13,440 --> 02:01:21,480 Speaker 1: a lot whatever. I gotta bring some perspective to what 1842 02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:23,280 Speaker 1: he's saying, because I don't think we're really getting it 1843 02:01:23,920 --> 02:01:27,760 Speaker 1: what he's saying. He was playing vinyl man. Man, He 1844 02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:30,160 Speaker 1: wasn't just going on the computer and looking at what's 1845 02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:32,400 Speaker 1: the newest ship and it's the Old School and this 1846 02:01:32,480 --> 02:01:35,600 Speaker 1: is my playlist. He had to know his ship and 1847 02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:38,680 Speaker 1: physically take the records out and pick those records. So 1848 02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:42,480 Speaker 1: he was on top of his game. Please you know 1849 02:01:42,560 --> 02:01:46,360 Speaker 1: what it was like back then in the nineties. Fucking creates. 1850 02:01:47,840 --> 02:01:49,800 Speaker 1: Look at the way my back. Let me ask you, 1851 02:01:50,040 --> 02:01:53,000 Speaker 1: do you create the young homie used to carry my 1852 02:01:53,040 --> 02:01:55,760 Speaker 1: homie right there my records to the club. Do you 1853 02:01:55,920 --> 02:02:01,040 Speaker 1: like that? Creates is not not yeah, you like that crate? Vinyl? 1854 02:02:02,480 --> 02:02:06,400 Speaker 1: You still nobody likes Nobody likes the weight of vinyl. 1855 02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:11,880 Speaker 1: But but there was a different culture to vinyl. Vinyl. Now, 1856 02:02:12,200 --> 02:02:14,600 Speaker 1: I used to be doing a live stream show, like 1857 02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:16,720 Speaker 1: maybe ten eleven years ago, when they used to have 1858 02:02:16,840 --> 02:02:19,400 Speaker 1: you stream last stream. I had a show and I 1859 02:02:19,520 --> 02:02:23,920 Speaker 1: was doing it from home in my basement. Now the 1860 02:02:24,840 --> 02:02:27,600 Speaker 1: records out of playing, I know the value of them. 1861 02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:33,360 Speaker 1: They're not leaving my house. They're gonna get scratch, crack 1862 02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:37,640 Speaker 1: or missing. They stay right there. So it's a messing. 1863 02:02:37,720 --> 02:02:41,160 Speaker 1: I got the computer, right, I can keep on my 1864 02:02:41,320 --> 02:02:43,280 Speaker 1: value at home. Yeah, it was a blessing that he 1865 02:02:43,360 --> 02:02:53,680 Speaker 1: got the computer. For everybody's back this time. I was 1866 02:02:53,800 --> 02:03:02,360 Speaker 1: you you like and hit it that um person my 1867 02:03:02,480 --> 02:03:05,120 Speaker 1: coach to get into start using the computer with my 1868 02:03:05,200 --> 02:03:10,720 Speaker 1: cousin Jason because he used to be the spokesman for STOJ. 1869 02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:17,280 Speaker 1: Huh no, no, j cousin. So he got me inviold 1870 02:03:17,360 --> 02:03:20,240 Speaker 1: it and that's man. At the time, a lot of 1871 02:03:20,280 --> 02:03:23,360 Speaker 1: my peers are you're going down and know they were stilling. 1872 02:03:23,560 --> 02:03:25,920 Speaker 1: I said, listen here, you gotta adapt. Yeah, I don't 1873 02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:28,120 Speaker 1: think he still got a survival. No, I got tractive. 1874 02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:30,440 Speaker 1: I just don't use it like that. Listen. He wanted 1875 02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:35,720 Speaker 1: he still want Vinyl. He want wanted listen, listen. He 1876 02:03:35,920 --> 02:03:40,080 Speaker 1: old school. He wanted the crates to come back. No, no, no, no, listen. 1877 02:03:40,160 --> 02:03:42,800 Speaker 1: I told you I don't want to carry crates. We've 1878 02:03:42,840 --> 02:03:45,880 Speaker 1: been trying to ask you to DJ for twelve years. 1879 02:03:46,720 --> 02:03:51,200 Speaker 1: One it's not the same. So I came out. That 1880 02:03:51,400 --> 02:03:55,800 Speaker 1: was an art for him to going through vinyl. It was. 1881 02:03:55,960 --> 02:03:59,200 Speaker 1: It was almost its own right. It's good you knew. 1882 02:03:59,400 --> 02:04:05,600 Speaker 1: What do you mean days out? Your name is DJ. 1883 02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:11,480 Speaker 1: We haven't seen DJE twenty years. I don't need it. 1884 02:04:11,560 --> 02:04:20,280 Speaker 1: I don't we miss you, we miss you. I'll say, 1885 02:04:20,920 --> 02:04:23,880 Speaker 1: listen to him. You got a cell phone? Yeah, I 1886 02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:28,000 Speaker 1: got a cellphone. Why you have to pay booth? You 1887 02:04:28,120 --> 02:04:33,560 Speaker 1: adapt to the cell phone, adapt to the computer. M 1888 02:04:34,760 --> 02:04:38,800 Speaker 1: come like he was talking to you. I adapted some culture. 1889 02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:44,280 Speaker 1: We're here right now doing podcasting and this is my contributing, 1890 02:04:45,680 --> 02:04:49,440 Speaker 1: and I'm spending that. You asked it to the us own. 1891 02:04:49,840 --> 02:04:52,240 Speaker 1: It's just I'm just giving a person a lot of 1892 02:04:52,640 --> 02:04:55,120 Speaker 1: range of wide of you that you can always have 1893 02:04:55,360 --> 02:04:58,080 Speaker 1: that but not have the jungle of us different things. 1894 02:04:58,160 --> 02:05:01,400 Speaker 1: That's absolutely it's just shape to say. Yeah, you y'all 1895 02:05:01,440 --> 02:05:03,440 Speaker 1: both gonna agree with this. It's just safe to say 1896 02:05:03,720 --> 02:05:08,160 Speaker 1: because y'all. DJ. Right, it's just safe to say that 1897 02:05:08,240 --> 02:05:11,080 Speaker 1: the digital game got a lot of trash out there. 1898 02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:16,360 Speaker 1: Let's be clear, right, because you don't want nobody coming 1899 02:05:16,400 --> 02:05:19,800 Speaker 1: out to him and saying number it's a numbers games, 1900 02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:22,600 Speaker 1: the numbers game, because everybody has access, everybody could put 1901 02:05:22,640 --> 02:05:25,200 Speaker 1: out right. So because that numbers game, now you're sitting 1902 02:05:25,200 --> 02:05:28,200 Speaker 1: me with somebody who makes like two million dollars and 1903 02:05:28,280 --> 02:05:30,320 Speaker 1: he played three songs and there's a bunch of No, 1904 02:05:30,400 --> 02:05:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm not even worried about it. It's like the whole Yeah, 1905 02:05:33,080 --> 02:05:35,280 Speaker 1: so it's no shape that because they're gonna get their money. 1906 02:05:35,320 --> 02:05:39,840 Speaker 1: But the only thing that that hurt like confusion d 1907 02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:44,880 Speaker 1: J game with the computers. You don't see the skill 1908 02:05:45,040 --> 02:05:47,480 Speaker 1: level no more. The skill level was at the door. 1909 02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:52,200 Speaker 1: Now everybody's gotta cutting scratch for none. How to play 1910 02:05:52,320 --> 02:05:55,720 Speaker 1: a song accommodating one to another, you know, even you're mixing, 1911 02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:58,880 Speaker 1: blending or timing, no, whatever it is. Instead it just 1912 02:05:59,480 --> 02:06:01,760 Speaker 1: but a great DJ will be even better with the 1913 02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:04,440 Speaker 1: technolog Like my boy DJ Craze, who's from Home Team 1914 02:06:04,520 --> 02:06:07,680 Speaker 1: right here, killer Like he takes the technology to the 1915 02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:11,880 Speaker 1: next level right on vinyl. He's even sometimes I'll be 1916 02:06:11,960 --> 02:06:14,960 Speaker 1: having an ox cord. I'll be like, I think, but 1917 02:06:15,160 --> 02:06:17,320 Speaker 1: you're not a you're not a good DJ. Nor I'll 1918 02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:22,360 Speaker 1: be like like like I'm saying, but I'm not gett 1919 02:06:22,360 --> 02:06:28,200 Speaker 1: paying myself to y'all same s they do. I could 1920 02:06:28,240 --> 02:06:30,760 Speaker 1: do like the new DULs you do, like I can 1921 02:06:30,840 --> 02:06:34,800 Speaker 1: do that. That's what they do. Respect and I respect 1922 02:06:34,840 --> 02:06:37,600 Speaker 1: a lot of DJs out there, but I respect a 1923 02:06:37,760 --> 02:06:40,920 Speaker 1: DJ that none to work their computer and that the 1924 02:06:41,160 --> 02:06:44,600 Speaker 1: computer work you. Okay, let's let's let's run down a 1925 02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:49,320 Speaker 1: list of DJs that you you enjoy watching. Oh Man, 1926 02:06:50,280 --> 02:06:54,760 Speaker 1: my number one favorite, Jazz Jeff, one of the best, 1927 02:06:54,840 --> 02:06:59,400 Speaker 1: fresh friend Jazz. Yeah, one of the best. Yeah, real 1928 02:06:59,600 --> 02:07:01,520 Speaker 1: DJ to say that, A lot of people we look 1929 02:07:01,560 --> 02:07:03,640 Speaker 1: at him like fluff. A lot of people like, oh yeah, 1930 02:07:03,680 --> 02:07:06,200 Speaker 1: he's been on the fresh prints, so they don't realize 1931 02:07:06,280 --> 02:07:10,000 Speaker 1: he gets busy. He's the DJ, I know. But you 1932 02:07:10,040 --> 02:07:11,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm trying to say. You know, that was 1933 02:07:11,240 --> 02:07:17,840 Speaker 1: like a commercial show all the time. So smithy guy, guy, listen, curse, 1934 02:07:18,440 --> 02:07:20,560 Speaker 1: does you know what I mean? So people a lot 1935 02:07:20,600 --> 02:07:23,440 Speaker 1: of people don't know when you see DJ like red alert, 1936 02:07:23,720 --> 02:07:25,920 Speaker 1: Like I just asked him and that was his first 1937 02:07:26,120 --> 02:07:30,520 Speaker 1: DJ that he fired off. That's great, let's do that. 1938 02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm so how he robbed because the first time I 1939 02:07:35,280 --> 02:07:37,880 Speaker 1: got to see Jazz Jeff and DJ and Union Square 1940 02:07:38,360 --> 02:07:40,880 Speaker 1: and Fresh Princes and Jazz Jeff performed there for the 1941 02:07:40,920 --> 02:07:42,920 Speaker 1: first time, and that's what he came in and he 1942 02:07:43,040 --> 02:07:45,000 Speaker 1: was the skilled level he was doing, Like what that 1943 02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:49,280 Speaker 1: he's bad boy man? Was it Fresh Friends and Jazz Jeffer? 1944 02:07:49,400 --> 02:07:51,360 Speaker 1: Was it? Since we're talking about the d J, that's 1945 02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:55,640 Speaker 1: DJ j Jeff in the Fresh Prince DJ j J. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. First, 1946 02:07:58,120 --> 02:08:00,160 Speaker 1: just the way I confused the names. Did Jazz see 1947 02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:04,160 Speaker 1: Jeff get his name from jazz j Jesus how? I 1948 02:08:04,200 --> 02:08:06,720 Speaker 1: didn't think so. I don't think so. Honestly, I don't 1949 02:08:06,760 --> 02:08:10,760 Speaker 1: think so, because you gotta remember something smokes the country. 1950 02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:16,440 Speaker 1: There was a lot of jazzys at that time. We 1951 02:08:16,560 --> 02:08:21,000 Speaker 1: don't know every single town that had a jazz And remember, 1952 02:08:21,040 --> 02:08:24,720 Speaker 1: let's not forget Jazz Joyce as he joins a legend 1953 02:08:24,760 --> 02:08:35,040 Speaker 1: as well. Just he was a little a little fan 1954 02:08:35,120 --> 02:08:39,080 Speaker 1: of you. We've been little for a long time. Jazz 1955 02:08:39,240 --> 02:08:42,000 Speaker 1: Joyce get busy on that. Oh yeah, she's like, no, 1956 02:08:42,200 --> 02:08:48,040 Speaker 1: Jazz Joyce is the Elders also Coco Chanel, she died. Yeah, 1957 02:08:48,240 --> 02:08:57,760 Speaker 1: she's the name Joyce Anchs. So because you know we 1958 02:08:57,920 --> 02:09:00,880 Speaker 1: Latino over here too. You know what I'm saying, who's 1959 02:09:01,240 --> 02:09:10,880 Speaker 1: the first Latino you've seen doing hip hop? Invest in Peace? 1960 02:09:11,560 --> 02:09:16,880 Speaker 1: He DJ at the disco favorite named June Buck. He 1961 02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:25,000 Speaker 1: was the first laptein of the DJ. But let's people 1962 02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:27,400 Speaker 1: get mad at me. They think I hate the Minica's 1963 02:09:27,440 --> 02:09:32,480 Speaker 1: just me they have before, but yeah, no, no, no, 1964 02:09:32,600 --> 02:09:36,240 Speaker 1: it's just that's what I said last. I'm Cuban. We 1965 02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:40,040 Speaker 1: have a rivalry. We let's separate each other with media. 1966 02:09:42,600 --> 02:09:48,200 Speaker 1: He was same time Caribbean too, Yeah, Caribbean. But you know, 1967 02:09:48,320 --> 02:09:50,080 Speaker 1: Cuba is the biggest Cribian. I'm just want to put 1968 02:09:50,080 --> 02:09:56,879 Speaker 1: that out there. Everybody biggest Jamaican. Jamaican. I'm from Antigua, Antiga, Okay, figure'all. 1969 02:09:58,680 --> 02:10:00,560 Speaker 1: You know how the same every I got rice and 1970 02:10:00,600 --> 02:10:04,160 Speaker 1: beans and beans and rice. Yeah, planting and plantings. That's 1971 02:10:04,160 --> 02:10:08,120 Speaker 1: why you really know we're like everyone. The people like 1972 02:10:08,600 --> 02:10:11,000 Speaker 1: you go somewhere like, yeah, what's your national dish? Like 1973 02:10:11,080 --> 02:10:15,280 Speaker 1: for riga, Dot's not lose focus. Let's go back to 1974 02:10:15,320 --> 02:10:21,400 Speaker 1: the Latinos. Let's go so I know, I respect Charlie 1975 02:10:21,520 --> 02:10:25,680 Speaker 1: Chase ruby D. You know he was one of the 1976 02:10:25,760 --> 02:10:28,520 Speaker 1: members of ub D. You said Ruby ruby D one 1977 02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:31,080 Speaker 1: of the members of the Fantastic Five remembers you say, 1978 02:10:31,160 --> 02:10:34,800 Speaker 1: co question against past he was warning Fantastic Five. Um, 1979 02:10:36,920 --> 02:10:39,640 Speaker 1: I did not know him. I always heard about him 1980 02:10:39,680 --> 02:10:42,280 Speaker 1: and then I met him later on. Who was Rick 1981 02:10:42,400 --> 02:10:47,000 Speaker 1: cast and Disco Rich yea, yeah, I never't know him 1982 02:10:47,080 --> 02:10:52,120 Speaker 1: the very beginning. Um, I'm thinking everybody, because I was 1983 02:10:52,240 --> 02:10:54,680 Speaker 1: up in the Bronx all the time. I was always 1984 02:10:54,760 --> 02:10:57,120 Speaker 1: up in the box. I know. Down Harlem we had 1985 02:10:57,200 --> 02:11:02,960 Speaker 1: Tito and from Feeling Sport and O C who was 1986 02:11:03,040 --> 02:11:07,960 Speaker 1: the DJ for him Feelings sport Um. Not to be 1987 02:11:08,040 --> 02:11:10,840 Speaker 1: confused C from Digging in the Crates picking him up 1988 02:11:10,840 --> 02:11:14,440 Speaker 1: to Big o Se. It was a d J O C, 1989 02:11:14,920 --> 02:11:18,040 Speaker 1: not the one from Digging Crazy. You know. I'm trying 1990 02:11:18,080 --> 02:11:21,160 Speaker 1: to remember who else I can't recall, but now, but 1991 02:11:21,320 --> 02:11:23,040 Speaker 1: he used for us, I know, of course, you know 1992 02:11:23,200 --> 02:11:26,480 Speaker 1: Notating always been around and even the B Boys, there 1993 02:11:26,560 --> 02:11:31,160 Speaker 1: was a lot of people, huh crazy like before Rock Stay, 1994 02:11:31,680 --> 02:11:36,320 Speaker 1: the origin New B Boys do the names of Yeah 1995 02:11:37,840 --> 02:11:40,520 Speaker 1: there our timeline suck when he came here, you know, 1996 02:11:40,680 --> 02:11:52,160 Speaker 1: like fuck you your Timeline, Fuck you suck your hercle Field, 1997 02:11:52,240 --> 02:11:54,360 Speaker 1: That's what I was saying to him. A guy named 1998 02:11:54,400 --> 02:11:59,640 Speaker 1: rest in Peace, Mike my Man, Charlie, rock my Man, Trixie. 1999 02:12:00,120 --> 02:12:02,160 Speaker 1: And there was a guy who was who is the 2000 02:12:02,200 --> 02:12:08,000 Speaker 1: Latino named Sassa. Sounds like people was winning the battiest, 2001 02:12:09,320 --> 02:12:13,680 Speaker 1: winning the bad countless graffiti artists as well a graffiti 2002 02:12:13,760 --> 02:12:17,560 Speaker 1: artists as well. Oh yeah, that's a graffiti artists. Is 2003 02:12:17,600 --> 02:12:22,040 Speaker 1: that the I think that really start before hip hop coaching? Absolutely? 2004 02:12:22,080 --> 02:12:25,320 Speaker 1: Yea yeah. And after we talked about with a little bit, 2005 02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm about to ask you that is the five elements 2006 02:12:28,400 --> 02:12:32,640 Speaker 1: of hip hop? Does it doesn't really matter anymore? Hey man, 2007 02:12:32,760 --> 02:12:34,640 Speaker 1: I don't like the way that question was at. I 2008 02:12:34,680 --> 02:12:40,040 Speaker 1: don't know you don't, but let him answer to me 2009 02:12:40,160 --> 02:12:42,440 Speaker 1: and my Piers and the audience that came along with us. 2010 02:12:42,480 --> 02:12:47,920 Speaker 1: It matters to us a great deal, a great great 2011 02:12:48,520 --> 02:12:51,600 Speaker 1: that's fun, you know, or even made a shirt about it. 2012 02:12:51,680 --> 02:12:53,200 Speaker 1: You look at your shirt that that we gave you 2013 02:12:54,280 --> 02:12:58,840 Speaker 1: the five elements. Give me the bottle opening up someone 2014 02:12:58,880 --> 02:13:06,040 Speaker 1: with the circle. It ain't going d J B Boys MC. Yeah, 2015 02:13:06,440 --> 02:13:08,840 Speaker 1: so you think it's supposed to say it's full? And 2016 02:13:08,920 --> 02:13:17,160 Speaker 1: then also be Box. Some people say no, father was yeah, 2017 02:13:17,440 --> 02:13:20,360 Speaker 1: and some people just say former Russian but that's a 2018 02:13:20,560 --> 02:13:24,680 Speaker 1: b Rocks. What do you think about fashion? Fashion big 2019 02:13:24,760 --> 02:13:28,320 Speaker 1: part in hip hop, big part of hip hop because 2020 02:13:28,560 --> 02:13:31,600 Speaker 1: you see used to the spikes. No, that was that 2021 02:13:31,720 --> 02:13:35,400 Speaker 1: new way punk rocks. You ain't fo this white. You 2022 02:13:35,440 --> 02:13:39,240 Speaker 1: ain't had the reason I'm asking because you're gonna pull 2023 02:13:39,280 --> 02:13:46,480 Speaker 1: up a picture you don't, We're gonna go. We're gonna 2024 02:13:46,480 --> 02:13:52,840 Speaker 1: go look for it. We got something you want. No, no, no, no, 2025 02:13:53,040 --> 02:13:55,400 Speaker 1: no no. I had a rob a couple of years ago. 2026 02:13:55,440 --> 02:13:58,760 Speaker 1: I said, Lubaton with the spikes just for weirdos. I'm 2027 02:13:58,800 --> 02:14:06,160 Speaker 1: a hood widows and started wearing them. No, really, when 2028 02:14:06,160 --> 02:14:08,680 Speaker 1: you want to go with this man, I want Lott 2029 02:14:08,720 --> 02:14:10,560 Speaker 1: with tars. I didn't read the ones with the spikes, 2030 02:14:11,080 --> 02:14:13,360 Speaker 1: and there was so many people hit me like you 2031 02:14:13,480 --> 02:14:16,760 Speaker 1: can't dis spikes, and I was like, why at the 2032 02:14:16,800 --> 02:14:20,880 Speaker 1: bottom of the shoes, Yeah, I don't poke with those spikes. 2033 02:14:21,000 --> 02:14:22,880 Speaker 1: So but but when I said that, I didn't on 2034 02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:25,160 Speaker 1: the record with Lars pro Bro my first record I 2035 02:14:25,240 --> 02:14:28,240 Speaker 1: ever recorded with Lars Bro, and so many fans was like, 2036 02:14:28,320 --> 02:14:30,800 Speaker 1: but you can't di spikes like you just a little 2037 02:14:30,920 --> 02:14:33,839 Speaker 1: Tar Spikes, but you can't say Spikes is for widows. 2038 02:14:33,880 --> 02:14:35,640 Speaker 1: And I was like, why they sent me so much 2039 02:14:37,720 --> 02:14:44,760 Speaker 1: original when I was just like had mentioned the the 2040 02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:48,120 Speaker 1: parallels with punk and hip hop in the early beginnings 2041 02:14:48,920 --> 02:14:51,440 Speaker 1: and why there was like they looked the same at 2042 02:14:51,480 --> 02:14:53,760 Speaker 1: the time and there was in the same venues. It 2043 02:14:53,960 --> 02:14:58,760 Speaker 1: was a level situation at the time because culture counterculture. 2044 02:14:58,800 --> 02:15:02,120 Speaker 1: Yeah it is hip hop coming from up in the 2045 02:15:02,200 --> 02:15:07,040 Speaker 1: Bronx coming downtown, Punk rock and new waves, you know, 2046 02:15:07,760 --> 02:15:10,840 Speaker 1: was all emerging at the time, and we always got 2047 02:15:10,880 --> 02:15:13,400 Speaker 1: together at certain clubs. First was in the Grills, then 2048 02:15:13,520 --> 02:15:16,600 Speaker 1: Dance Interia, and it was like you got to learn 2049 02:15:16,800 --> 02:15:18,200 Speaker 1: some of their coaches, you got to learn some of 2050 02:15:18,280 --> 02:15:22,560 Speaker 1: our culture. The grill placed for the Grills that was 2051 02:15:22,600 --> 02:15:25,960 Speaker 1: on the second avenue was Jamaican. Uh. I think more 2052 02:15:26,080 --> 02:15:34,680 Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, continue from them to Danceteria. Actually, while 2053 02:15:34,720 --> 02:15:37,600 Speaker 1: we was cutting up records like once in a Lifetime 2054 02:15:37,680 --> 02:15:42,400 Speaker 1: by Talking Heads and Liquid Liquid and you know, we're 2055 02:15:42,400 --> 02:15:46,720 Speaker 1: playing stuff like um something about UM coming down the 2056 02:15:46,800 --> 02:15:49,400 Speaker 1: house and all that stuff, and they got the line 2057 02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:52,720 Speaker 1: our stuff. So we was none how to support each other. 2058 02:15:53,920 --> 02:15:56,560 Speaker 1: We all have to look at them where we like 2059 02:15:56,680 --> 02:15:59,680 Speaker 1: their music and they're like our music. That's what it was. 2060 02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:01,680 Speaker 1: Because if you would have wore spikes and I would 2061 02:16:01,680 --> 02:16:09,440 Speaker 1: have found out you got the picture. Go you talk 2062 02:16:09,480 --> 02:16:11,840 Speaker 1: about that because I know how you know the error 2063 02:16:12,320 --> 02:16:14,760 Speaker 1: I grew up in the Oh you got de fitted 2064 02:16:14,840 --> 02:16:22,760 Speaker 1: jeans going back. Yeah, it's like they got me like that. 2065 02:16:26,520 --> 02:16:32,720 Speaker 1: Just the rivalry with the now now I know during 2066 02:16:32,760 --> 02:16:36,080 Speaker 1: the time, like the felish fire, the cold crushed the 2067 02:16:36,160 --> 02:16:40,320 Speaker 1: feather day was looking up to the people's like changing 2068 02:16:40,360 --> 02:16:44,080 Speaker 1: them at this right and like you know anything that 2069 02:16:44,920 --> 02:16:50,080 Speaker 1: George Clinton, they following that. You know they was doing 2070 02:16:50,160 --> 02:16:54,280 Speaker 1: that every day. No, it was coking everywhere, not before 2071 02:16:54,400 --> 02:17:00,160 Speaker 1: that or Angel does Angel does everywhere? I mean don't 2072 02:17:00,160 --> 02:17:05,320 Speaker 1: know about everywhere a man now before that. Here it 2073 02:17:05,520 --> 02:17:08,200 Speaker 1: is the groups I just mentioned. They used to come dressing, 2074 02:17:08,240 --> 02:17:11,200 Speaker 1: looking at the temptations and doing steps and everything. So 2075 02:17:11,400 --> 02:17:13,840 Speaker 1: there was far too different way. They was both looks. 2076 02:17:15,120 --> 02:17:17,120 Speaker 1: All three of them who I just mentioned used to 2077 02:17:17,200 --> 02:17:20,760 Speaker 1: come with the suits on. You should come doing steps, 2078 02:17:21,080 --> 02:17:24,160 Speaker 1: dancing and all that. Now here it is for us 2079 02:17:24,320 --> 02:17:26,520 Speaker 1: that re class of looking flyer the trump. At the 2080 02:17:26,560 --> 02:17:28,480 Speaker 1: time I was going to all the hip hop friends. 2081 02:17:29,000 --> 02:17:33,600 Speaker 1: We was ran in what they called Gabardine material pants 2082 02:17:34,080 --> 02:17:37,240 Speaker 1: with the over flaps. We had the turn next to 2083 02:17:37,280 --> 02:17:40,359 Speaker 1: the market. Next we had the um, the level fronts, 2084 02:17:40,840 --> 02:17:44,000 Speaker 1: we had the Italian Knicks. The shoes we wore was 2085 02:17:44,040 --> 02:17:48,560 Speaker 1: even playboys or British walkers, you know, if it was 2086 02:17:48,640 --> 02:17:51,840 Speaker 1: real flyer you are up pair of gams. You know. Um. 2087 02:17:53,720 --> 02:17:59,640 Speaker 1: The coat we had was quarter Fields. That's what we 2088 02:17:59,800 --> 02:18:04,280 Speaker 1: were rocking at that time. I gotta make some noise 2089 02:18:04,320 --> 02:18:15,080 Speaker 1: of that. What's that for? So when does Dapper Dan 2090 02:18:15,200 --> 02:18:18,960 Speaker 1: come into play? Ye, Dapper Dan came in I think 2091 02:18:19,000 --> 02:18:22,880 Speaker 1: about early eighties, but start to emerge more into the 2092 02:18:23,000 --> 02:18:25,960 Speaker 1: late eighties and you've got shirt Kings, you got shirt Kings, 2093 02:18:26,040 --> 02:18:32,560 Speaker 1: Short Kings goes out there and Ja Jamaica Yeah yeah, 2094 02:18:32,760 --> 02:18:38,680 Speaker 1: and then was doing their thing in the same Let 2095 02:18:38,720 --> 02:18:41,240 Speaker 1: me ask you, right, I love the everything you just said, 2096 02:18:41,920 --> 02:18:44,440 Speaker 1: but I want to ask you when we look at 2097 02:18:44,480 --> 02:18:50,080 Speaker 1: the old drug Dealer movies paid the falls, we look 2098 02:18:50,160 --> 02:18:53,880 Speaker 1: how much it seemed like if the DJ shot at 2099 02:18:53,959 --> 02:19:05,520 Speaker 1: you out in the club, you was different. Yeah yeah, 2100 02:19:05,600 --> 02:19:10,160 Speaker 1: little payola for that too. Let's stand up, guys, not 2101 02:19:10,360 --> 02:19:15,160 Speaker 1: really not really need to understand. Shot my name. I 2102 02:19:15,280 --> 02:19:18,520 Speaker 1: shot my name out and they know you're taking that's 2103 02:19:18,560 --> 02:19:22,760 Speaker 1: why you're shotting the name out. So now how much 2104 02:19:22,760 --> 02:19:29,040 Speaker 1: would that take? And you can get big money for that? 2105 02:19:30,480 --> 02:19:32,640 Speaker 1: We got a segue here. How important what he's saying 2106 02:19:32,720 --> 02:19:36,640 Speaker 1: right now? So you are the beginnings at least one 2107 02:19:36,680 --> 02:19:39,240 Speaker 1: of the partiers of mixed tapes. No, I'm not willing 2108 02:19:39,280 --> 02:19:42,160 Speaker 1: to be not in the beginning. Who I'll give respect 2109 02:19:42,240 --> 02:19:47,360 Speaker 1: to Brucy be absolutely Now how they that to me 2110 02:19:47,480 --> 02:19:52,240 Speaker 1: about mixtape? Because once I got on the radio, everybody 2111 02:19:52,320 --> 02:19:54,320 Speaker 1: you said, yo, let me get that mix from last night. 2112 02:19:54,720 --> 02:19:57,480 Speaker 1: I was already sententation from water jam. Remember you always 2113 02:19:57,520 --> 02:20:03,279 Speaker 1: asking about from every saying how is known for being recorded? 2114 02:20:03,320 --> 02:20:07,320 Speaker 1: All the parties mass up in the brunch. I'm down harm, 2115 02:20:08,360 --> 02:20:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm selling tapes. I'm making copies and selling tapes. You 2116 02:20:11,280 --> 02:20:16,120 Speaker 1: went platinum. Let's just talk about it. This is audio only, right, Yeah, 2117 02:20:16,240 --> 02:20:21,200 Speaker 1: this is original mixtapes audio. You basically created the podcast. 2118 02:20:22,240 --> 02:20:26,280 Speaker 1: Well it's audio. You're fast forwarding right now, just like 2119 02:20:26,640 --> 02:20:39,680 Speaker 1: me to your what I made great money offer that 2120 02:20:39,760 --> 02:20:42,880 Speaker 1: coumo deep busy, be busy, be more. Now this is 2121 02:20:42,920 --> 02:20:45,760 Speaker 1: the legendary that is legend. I was there that day. Wait, 2122 02:20:45,840 --> 02:20:48,040 Speaker 1: so you're the one that put that out there. No, 2123 02:20:48,360 --> 02:20:50,879 Speaker 1: it was me and the DJ Vandy Rest in peace 2124 02:20:51,320 --> 02:20:53,600 Speaker 1: because what happened. I was just leaving from up in 2125 02:20:53,640 --> 02:20:55,680 Speaker 1: the Bronx, and I mean I got off on the 2126 02:20:56,120 --> 02:20:58,680 Speaker 1: right around my way HR Sixting Street, come out harmon Worlds. 2127 02:20:58,800 --> 02:21:01,520 Speaker 1: Right there, I saw there was a big crowd and 2128 02:21:01,600 --> 02:21:05,280 Speaker 1: there was an MC convention, as it was an MC convention. 2129 02:21:05,440 --> 02:21:08,280 Speaker 1: I always know for carrying my tap and MC convention, 2130 02:21:08,400 --> 02:21:11,279 Speaker 1: what does that mean? Exactly? At that point MC convention 2131 02:21:11,800 --> 02:21:17,320 Speaker 1: where it was also a contest, the battle basically battle 2132 02:21:17,720 --> 02:21:19,960 Speaker 1: and there was so many people that was battling. So 2133 02:21:20,120 --> 02:21:22,080 Speaker 1: now here it is, I'm walking with my tape deck. 2134 02:21:22,680 --> 02:21:24,920 Speaker 1: As I'm walking with my tape deck, I went to 2135 02:21:25,160 --> 02:21:28,560 Speaker 1: the to the section where the equipment and my man, 2136 02:21:29,000 --> 02:21:31,600 Speaker 1: I forgot his name. I said, yo, man, can I 2137 02:21:31,680 --> 02:21:33,480 Speaker 1: hook it up? He let me hook it up. So 2138 02:21:34,600 --> 02:21:38,200 Speaker 1: the house school mod have on the big glasses. Yeah no, no, no, 2139 02:21:38,320 --> 02:21:40,600 Speaker 1: he ain't a big glasses't have a big glasses. Can 2140 02:21:40,680 --> 02:21:46,840 Speaker 1: sell you the story into it. So let me look 2141 02:21:46,879 --> 02:21:48,440 Speaker 1: at my tape deck. Along with the tape deck that 2142 02:21:48,560 --> 02:21:52,400 Speaker 1: was and I recorded that. I recorded that, but I 2143 02:21:52,560 --> 02:21:57,400 Speaker 1: was always duplicated that And then you really sat, but 2144 02:21:57,720 --> 02:22:00,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna talking about the what happens this battle it's 2145 02:22:01,000 --> 02:22:07,279 Speaker 1: Busy Be. So it really was MC Battle Contest convention, 2146 02:22:07,920 --> 02:22:10,560 Speaker 1: it was, but it was all about again. So Modi 2147 02:22:10,840 --> 02:22:14,280 Speaker 1: was the host for that, but he decided to come 2148 02:22:14,440 --> 02:22:17,360 Speaker 1: in at the last minute, signed up to go after Busy. 2149 02:22:17,440 --> 02:22:20,960 Speaker 1: We called Busy Be was known for winning or the 2150 02:22:21,120 --> 02:22:23,879 Speaker 1: contest and Busy Be from the Bronx, mold from halland 2151 02:22:23,959 --> 02:22:27,320 Speaker 1: Wild Wild West. He made the record. It's documented, right 2152 02:22:28,600 --> 02:22:31,680 Speaker 1: they go at it. This is a moment that shifted 2153 02:22:31,760 --> 02:22:35,119 Speaker 1: hip hop. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely talk. 2154 02:22:35,400 --> 02:22:37,400 Speaker 1: You said you're there. What did you see when you 2155 02:22:37,520 --> 02:22:40,879 Speaker 1: was there? Man? When I saw that, Modi got up 2156 02:22:40,920 --> 02:22:43,160 Speaker 1: there and he started seeing them lyrics and all I 2157 02:22:43,200 --> 02:22:44,960 Speaker 1: can do is having my mouth for mind, like, oh 2158 02:22:45,120 --> 02:22:48,960 Speaker 1: ship because its number one. You didn't expect for him 2159 02:22:49,000 --> 02:22:51,040 Speaker 1: to be in the contest number two. You ship. He's saying, 2160 02:22:51,080 --> 02:22:54,440 Speaker 1: you never heard before you'd be like, what the So 2161 02:22:54,520 --> 02:22:58,920 Speaker 1: we're saying, mold one that Yeah, clearly you didn't listen 2162 02:22:58,959 --> 02:23:04,480 Speaker 1: to the change just because I'll be Let's go to 2163 02:23:04,560 --> 02:23:08,280 Speaker 1: the video chap, Let's go to the audio jape. Think 2164 02:23:08,320 --> 02:23:11,039 Speaker 1: about it. We'll play Let's go back to the table. 2165 02:23:11,480 --> 02:23:15,720 Speaker 1: We're going back to the tape and Monkey and Busy 2166 02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:19,120 Speaker 1: is good. They're good friends, good friends. You know. Business 2167 02:23:19,120 --> 02:23:22,840 Speaker 1: a legend. Yeah, business, that's my that's what my doing. 2168 02:23:22,959 --> 02:23:27,199 Speaker 1: But they helped me history because you think more about 2169 02:23:28,360 --> 02:23:32,080 Speaker 1: them too. Beside the whole entire battle. You know who's 2170 02:23:32,120 --> 02:23:35,240 Speaker 1: Rustle was in that that contest. A lot of people 2171 02:23:35,240 --> 02:23:38,560 Speaker 1: don't know he from down in Atlanta. He's known for 2172 02:23:38,640 --> 02:23:45,160 Speaker 1: being on radio in Atlanta. Remember Frank Ski V one 2173 02:23:45,200 --> 02:23:50,040 Speaker 1: on three. Frank Ski, he was the morning guy for 2174 02:23:50,280 --> 02:23:53,600 Speaker 1: V one on three. He was he was up there 2175 02:23:53,720 --> 02:23:57,400 Speaker 1: because you have family in Harlem. And he go ahead 2176 02:23:57,680 --> 02:23:59,640 Speaker 1: and got him there and wrapped. He was wrapping up 2177 02:23:59,640 --> 02:24:10,359 Speaker 1: the inst mental Mama used to say, Jesus, So imagine 2178 02:24:10,400 --> 02:24:15,840 Speaker 1: me go ahead making my hustle selling tapes. So by 2179 02:24:15,920 --> 02:24:19,360 Speaker 1: the time now when I get to doing radio, they 2180 02:24:19,400 --> 02:24:21,720 Speaker 1: don't want the party tapes. They say, yo, man, that 2181 02:24:21,879 --> 02:24:23,680 Speaker 1: joint what you did last night, You know, man, I 2182 02:24:23,720 --> 02:24:26,080 Speaker 1: want to copy of that. So what I used to 2183 02:24:26,200 --> 02:24:30,199 Speaker 1: do every time, because I was pre recording, I would 2184 02:24:30,200 --> 02:24:35,640 Speaker 1: always keep my master and make copies. So anybody heard 2185 02:24:35,760 --> 02:24:39,320 Speaker 1: something that night, the next day you got that tape. 2186 02:24:40,280 --> 02:24:46,440 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Business. But then you started recording, I mean 2187 02:24:46,480 --> 02:24:50,200 Speaker 1: putting out your mixes from the radio as mix tapes. Yes, 2188 02:24:51,120 --> 02:24:55,680 Speaker 1: UM tell you the mixtape not not well, I'm just 2189 02:24:55,720 --> 02:24:57,920 Speaker 1: saying this, Okay, let me just in the street in 2190 02:24:58,040 --> 02:25:03,240 Speaker 1: street level, I would say a brucy b start see 2191 02:25:03,240 --> 02:25:06,200 Speaker 1: you guys, huh in New York. I'm talking from a 2192 02:25:06,240 --> 02:25:09,920 Speaker 1: guy from Miami that tapes are trickling down to us. 2193 02:25:10,160 --> 02:25:12,480 Speaker 1: That's why they were looking at us, looking at me. 2194 02:25:12,920 --> 02:25:15,800 Speaker 1: I don't know with Molly and Chuck, because people will 2195 02:25:15,840 --> 02:25:18,920 Speaker 1: recording us after radio just to stop you one second, 2196 02:25:18,959 --> 02:25:22,480 Speaker 1: just to give you your homage. And I'm appreciate getting 2197 02:25:22,520 --> 02:25:26,120 Speaker 1: to us is red alert tapes and kicking pre tapes 2198 02:25:26,760 --> 02:25:30,400 Speaker 1: in Miami, and then I become a mixtape DJ based 2199 02:25:30,440 --> 02:25:40,880 Speaker 1: on that that you're trying to me. I'm just honestly 2200 02:25:41,080 --> 02:25:44,280 Speaker 1: giving you what the blueprint. And then we learned about 2201 02:25:44,320 --> 02:25:48,240 Speaker 1: Brucey B and everybody through you guys, and we have 2202 02:25:48,400 --> 02:25:50,120 Speaker 1: to do our do and we have to dig in 2203 02:25:50,160 --> 02:25:53,400 Speaker 1: the crates and figure out what's the history. Yeah, you 2204 02:25:53,440 --> 02:25:55,800 Speaker 1: guys are the first people coming to us. Yeah, because 2205 02:25:55,879 --> 02:25:58,320 Speaker 1: you don't mention these guys, they're getting missing absolutely, you know. 2206 02:25:58,720 --> 02:26:02,360 Speaker 1: And there was other people side brucy and and start 2207 02:26:02,440 --> 02:26:06,879 Speaker 1: out you have my man, DJ Hollywood, you have scheme. 2208 02:26:07,320 --> 02:26:11,080 Speaker 1: I mean, listens moments on so many of them, so 2209 02:26:11,200 --> 02:26:13,360 Speaker 1: many of them. That's still one of my favorite songs 2210 02:26:13,400 --> 02:26:16,039 Speaker 1: to this day. Who Dang, Who Dan? I don't want 2211 02:26:16,080 --> 02:26:19,360 Speaker 1: to go during the night with my honey. Gave me 2212 02:26:19,480 --> 02:26:24,440 Speaker 1: something that young boy go to bed. I a lot that. 2213 02:26:25,320 --> 02:26:27,039 Speaker 1: When I heard that, I was like, what the fun 2214 02:26:27,240 --> 02:26:30,960 Speaker 1: is going on? I really know what it was. And 2215 02:26:31,240 --> 02:26:33,400 Speaker 1: I see like a pictured like the person who they 2216 02:26:33,400 --> 02:26:35,520 Speaker 1: said sunk it and he had the suit on, and 2217 02:26:35,600 --> 02:26:37,640 Speaker 1: I was like, I ain't never seen that. Like, I 2218 02:26:37,760 --> 02:26:41,560 Speaker 1: was like, what we dressed up? I was so hood 2219 02:26:41,600 --> 02:26:43,960 Speaker 1: at that time, fresh man he was at It was 2220 02:26:44,080 --> 02:26:48,320 Speaker 1: more for like the growning sexy in that element over there. 2221 02:26:48,720 --> 02:26:50,760 Speaker 1: So that's we much more on the street, That's what 2222 02:26:50,959 --> 02:26:54,360 Speaker 1: that's that's what Cass said over Well, that's something again 2223 02:26:55,200 --> 02:26:58,360 Speaker 1: if you if you google that record when it came out, 2224 02:26:58,400 --> 02:27:01,200 Speaker 1: I had to be like eight or nine. Well I 2225 02:27:01,320 --> 02:27:05,400 Speaker 1: didn't know. People said that they considered that commercial and 2226 02:27:05,480 --> 02:27:09,240 Speaker 1: I was like, well, like what was commercial about that? 2227 02:27:09,360 --> 02:27:11,520 Speaker 1: And compared to what they were doing, compared to what 2228 02:27:11,680 --> 02:27:16,240 Speaker 1: they were doing, so um, I didn't know, so what 2229 02:27:17,320 --> 02:27:20,520 Speaker 1: I think that you could probably rather soon as did this. 2230 02:27:20,840 --> 02:27:23,880 Speaker 1: But what was the difference? What did you want to 2231 02:27:24,160 --> 02:27:26,320 Speaker 1: did you care about being on the commercial side like 2232 02:27:26,760 --> 02:27:30,400 Speaker 1: or did you say you know it didn't matter. You 2233 02:27:30,480 --> 02:27:32,720 Speaker 1: just wanted to push hip hop forward? Like what what 2234 02:27:32,840 --> 02:27:36,360 Speaker 1: side do you you think? I'm gone to take advantage 2235 02:27:36,400 --> 02:27:38,640 Speaker 1: of the commercial side with the elements of where I 2236 02:27:38,760 --> 02:27:41,000 Speaker 1: come from on the hip hop. I wanted to go 2237 02:27:41,160 --> 02:27:44,760 Speaker 1: ahead and bring that over here. Let people know that 2238 02:27:45,240 --> 02:27:47,520 Speaker 1: this is what we've been doing over here, and let 2239 02:27:47,560 --> 02:27:50,320 Speaker 1: me present it to you and I can go ahead 2240 02:27:50,360 --> 02:27:52,560 Speaker 1: and program right along with everything else that you are 2241 02:27:52,680 --> 02:27:55,360 Speaker 1: like not understand with you. You know, I'm gonna give 2242 02:27:55,400 --> 02:27:58,040 Speaker 1: you your R and B. I'm gonna give you a dance. 2243 02:27:58,640 --> 02:28:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some what we've been doing. Mix 2244 02:28:02,080 --> 02:28:05,640 Speaker 1: it all to Jael and everybody get that variety. That's 2245 02:28:05,680 --> 02:28:15,000 Speaker 1: what that did got them and you've been credited with 2246 02:28:15,160 --> 02:28:17,760 Speaker 1: bringing reggae and dance all to the radio waves as 2247 02:28:17,840 --> 02:28:22,240 Speaker 1: well in the States. Respect on that um. But it 2248 02:28:22,280 --> 02:28:24,440 Speaker 1: influenced me once again, the dope jam to I just 2249 02:28:24,560 --> 02:28:28,480 Speaker 1: told you about when we was coming out. No, no, 2250 02:28:28,720 --> 02:28:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm the hype man to KOs one book production. Everybody 2251 02:28:32,840 --> 02:28:34,440 Speaker 1: knew I was the DJ, but that was the Nice. 2252 02:28:35,120 --> 02:28:37,480 Speaker 1: So every time we came out, we came to hold On. 2253 02:28:37,560 --> 02:28:42,640 Speaker 1: You just said that way too fast. Again again, I said, 2254 02:28:42,959 --> 02:28:45,400 Speaker 1: everybody thought I would have been the DJ in place 2255 02:28:45,440 --> 02:28:47,400 Speaker 1: of Scott the Rock. I'm gonna add that, mate, dear, 2256 02:28:48,240 --> 02:28:50,520 Speaker 1: But it was d Nice that was the DJ while 2257 02:28:50,560 --> 02:28:55,080 Speaker 1: I was the hype man for KOs one one stage History, 2258 02:28:55,240 --> 02:29:14,040 Speaker 1: So you was splip star, that's fine, that's wine. While 2259 02:29:14,160 --> 02:29:16,000 Speaker 1: he was coming out. He was coming out to the 2260 02:29:16,120 --> 02:29:21,560 Speaker 1: instrument version of Telephone Love by J. C. Longe. So 2261 02:29:21,840 --> 02:29:24,320 Speaker 1: when I saw the response every time we came out 2262 02:29:24,360 --> 02:29:27,480 Speaker 1: to that, and we always ended out with the album 2263 02:29:27,680 --> 02:29:30,199 Speaker 1: version of Stop the Valance that was on the album 2264 02:29:30,840 --> 02:29:35,080 Speaker 1: and that also got Caribbean influence, it gave me an 2265 02:29:35,120 --> 02:29:37,760 Speaker 1: idea when I got back to the station to started 2266 02:29:37,800 --> 02:29:43,240 Speaker 1: playing some dance Harvekings. So the first ten fifteen minutes 2267 02:29:43,280 --> 02:29:45,640 Speaker 1: I played some dance hall because there were some people 2268 02:29:45,680 --> 02:29:49,720 Speaker 1: that have made dance havankas like Um special Ed on 2269 02:29:49,920 --> 02:29:54,080 Speaker 1: his choice album, UM drove yourself on the other's album No. 2270 02:29:54,680 --> 02:29:58,080 Speaker 1: So then extended and stand down. I started ring supercat 2271 02:29:58,160 --> 02:30:03,040 Speaker 1: type ship that's start getting the Beanie Man and Shabu Shot. 2272 02:30:04,560 --> 02:30:07,520 Speaker 1: You know, I mean this is no and you know 2273 02:30:07,800 --> 02:30:11,640 Speaker 1: I made it one hour out of my show. And 2274 02:30:11,760 --> 02:30:13,680 Speaker 1: before you know that, you let me have an album 2275 02:30:13,760 --> 02:30:19,279 Speaker 1: out called prop Master Dance on Little Virus, Little Vicius 2276 02:30:19,360 --> 02:30:24,880 Speaker 1: is on. That was dope record. Man. That was like, 2277 02:30:25,120 --> 02:30:28,920 Speaker 1: that's a class, that's my guy. Yeah, can I as 2278 02:30:29,280 --> 02:30:34,560 Speaker 1: absolutely all right? So we didn't mention this, but I 2279 02:30:34,640 --> 02:30:37,520 Speaker 1: happened to know that you are in your forty fifth 2280 02:30:37,680 --> 02:30:43,599 Speaker 1: year of DJAN. Right, is that on radio or just djero? 2281 02:30:44,320 --> 02:30:48,520 Speaker 1: That's all together. I started on radio eight three, but 2282 02:30:48,600 --> 02:30:51,680 Speaker 1: I started DJAN in seventy six, So so how long 2283 02:30:51,720 --> 02:30:54,879 Speaker 1: have you been on radio? Next month could be thirty 2284 02:30:54,920 --> 02:30:58,600 Speaker 1: eight years? Incredible, man. I don't do as many people 2285 02:31:04,920 --> 02:31:07,279 Speaker 1: of the forty five because I know some people get confused. 2286 02:31:07,560 --> 02:31:10,280 Speaker 1: All right, So I have I wanted to do this 2287 02:31:10,400 --> 02:31:12,680 Speaker 1: on this day I have it. Is it a true question? Right? 2288 02:31:12,879 --> 02:31:15,240 Speaker 1: I gotta go to the barroom. That's a part of 2289 02:31:15,280 --> 02:31:21,320 Speaker 1: the show. Is it Is it true that you're on 2290 02:31:21,560 --> 02:31:24,720 Speaker 1: the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? What it is? 2291 02:31:24,800 --> 02:31:28,279 Speaker 1: They have a display on me in the radio section 2292 02:31:28,600 --> 02:31:31,480 Speaker 1: of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, including on 2293 02:31:31,680 --> 02:31:36,160 Speaker 1: Hags and it's an honor because I'm right along with 2294 02:31:36,280 --> 02:31:39,120 Speaker 1: some of the great DJ's from radio in the past, 2295 02:31:39,240 --> 02:31:45,760 Speaker 1: like Gyne, Alan Freed, Wolfman, check Um, Frankie Crocker. I 2296 02:31:45,840 --> 02:31:50,360 Speaker 1: mean so many people. So you know you in that category, dumb. 2297 02:31:50,440 --> 02:31:53,400 Speaker 1: It's an honor battle so you know, solidified in the 2298 02:31:53,520 --> 02:31:56,880 Speaker 1: history of our country as well. Right, that's what that is. 2299 02:31:56,959 --> 02:31:59,680 Speaker 1: So I've got another institute, one more, one more, all right, 2300 02:31:59,720 --> 02:32:01,240 Speaker 1: So when I do my homework on you, when I 2301 02:32:01,320 --> 02:32:05,080 Speaker 1: do my homework, it's a time where you mentioned like 2302 02:32:05,240 --> 02:32:11,240 Speaker 1: Rob Base, we talked about the movie Juice, you know, 2303 02:32:11,480 --> 02:32:13,400 Speaker 1: from my like my age group. You know, we know 2304 02:32:13,560 --> 02:32:15,520 Speaker 1: Kalid and we know a bunch of DJs now that 2305 02:32:15,640 --> 02:32:18,600 Speaker 1: we see on the face value on TV and stuff. 2306 02:32:19,000 --> 02:32:20,840 Speaker 1: But when I look at those errors, even up to 2307 02:32:21,000 --> 02:32:26,560 Speaker 1: like even ludicrous throw them bowls. You were like highly 2308 02:32:26,680 --> 02:32:29,879 Speaker 1: featured in a lot of hip hop videos, and at 2309 02:32:29,920 --> 02:32:33,560 Speaker 1: that time, I didn't really know if that was like common, 2310 02:32:33,720 --> 02:32:35,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's there was a point 2311 02:32:35,240 --> 02:32:36,959 Speaker 1: where I think I saw that. I heard I think 2312 02:32:37,000 --> 02:32:43,039 Speaker 1: he's the most the most featured cameo in a video video. Yeah, yeah, 2313 02:32:43,120 --> 02:32:46,240 Speaker 1: I saw that. I read that. I read and I 2314 02:32:46,320 --> 02:32:48,640 Speaker 1: thought about it. I was like, well, if I look 2315 02:32:48,680 --> 02:32:52,160 Speaker 1: at the videos that I've seen, then he showed that 2316 02:32:52,400 --> 02:32:56,760 Speaker 1: he was showing finish your question? Sorry is this? Was 2317 02:32:56,800 --> 02:32:58,960 Speaker 1: there anybody else doing this? Was this a tactic? Like? 2318 02:32:59,080 --> 02:33:01,560 Speaker 1: What did you realize he was doing that? I did 2319 02:33:01,640 --> 02:33:06,480 Speaker 1: it for a reason. A long time ago, before the 2320 02:33:06,640 --> 02:33:11,480 Speaker 1: visual took off, there was a lot of people impostus 2321 02:33:13,080 --> 02:33:16,800 Speaker 1: try to impersonate who they are to make their money. 2322 02:33:17,000 --> 02:33:18,920 Speaker 1: You know, you get the fake this faith that. So 2323 02:33:19,200 --> 02:33:21,920 Speaker 1: when Spaking and I once again we dine in Kentucky 2324 02:33:22,920 --> 02:33:25,680 Speaker 1: and um just back like mid eighties r in Kentucky 2325 02:33:26,560 --> 02:33:29,600 Speaker 1: and this guy he's gonna brag you know that his 2326 02:33:29,760 --> 02:33:32,080 Speaker 1: name dropping. Well, you know I met this person. I 2327 02:33:32,160 --> 02:33:35,120 Speaker 1: met that person. He mentioned my name. So he mentioned 2328 02:33:35,160 --> 02:33:39,160 Speaker 1: my name me sparking and look at each other, I 2329 02:33:39,240 --> 02:33:41,640 Speaker 1: mean saying nothing. The cup quiet. Right before we get 2330 02:33:41,959 --> 02:33:46,440 Speaker 1: go on the stage, Sparky tap him and say, oh, 2331 02:33:46,520 --> 02:33:49,360 Speaker 1: by the way, that's better. Look he looked at me. 2332 02:33:49,440 --> 02:33:54,240 Speaker 1: He was shocky ran out. I say, okay, so even 2333 02:33:54,400 --> 02:33:57,600 Speaker 1: that you dragging that you said you met everybody or 2334 02:33:57,640 --> 02:34:01,560 Speaker 1: there's somebody go around and say they meet. So when 2335 02:34:01,600 --> 02:34:03,320 Speaker 1: I saw that, I had the opportunity to do the 2336 02:34:03,400 --> 02:34:06,760 Speaker 1: first video I forgot the first video every did. They 2337 02:34:06,800 --> 02:34:09,440 Speaker 1: asked me to be in it. Now, I said, okay, cool, 2338 02:34:09,440 --> 02:34:12,520 Speaker 1: I'll be in it. When I saw the response that 2339 02:34:12,680 --> 02:34:14,760 Speaker 1: had everybody noticed me, I said, you know what, I'm 2340 02:34:14,760 --> 02:34:17,840 Speaker 1: gonna capitalize all for them. Let me brand myself and 2341 02:34:17,959 --> 02:34:20,760 Speaker 1: promote myself so people know who I really be side 2342 02:34:20,879 --> 02:34:23,840 Speaker 1: somebody else scored fak and say who they are. So 2343 02:34:24,160 --> 02:34:31,120 Speaker 1: I took advantage of that. That's did I did. I 2344 02:34:31,200 --> 02:34:36,080 Speaker 1: say a suggestion, please y'all make a father in some podcasts. 2345 02:34:38,920 --> 02:34:42,960 Speaker 1: So it's really interesting. We have we we originally we 2346 02:34:43,280 --> 02:34:49,240 Speaker 1: created uh representation of our dynamic called the Full Connection. 2347 02:34:49,959 --> 02:34:53,400 Speaker 1: Um it started. I wouldn't say we really took in, 2348 02:34:53,600 --> 02:34:57,000 Speaker 1: we really got down with it? What after lighting past 2349 02:34:57,160 --> 02:35:00,200 Speaker 1: we did? We was right around that time the hip pub. 2350 02:35:00,440 --> 02:35:02,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll be drunk. I can't remember everything. It was 2351 02:35:02,680 --> 02:35:06,600 Speaker 1: like it was like you can't shot drink drink Champs 2352 02:35:06,720 --> 02:35:12,720 Speaker 1: not posted started and does you want the poomboo juice 2353 02:35:13,680 --> 02:35:18,920 Speaker 1: boo poopoo. I'm sorry, poooo juice, Scott got juice poop 2354 02:35:18,920 --> 02:35:23,240 Speaker 1: poo juice. I'm just lexing, give me, give me a break, 2355 02:35:23,760 --> 02:35:30,280 Speaker 1: give me your side. It's got great I'm sorry, but 2356 02:35:30,360 --> 02:35:32,880 Speaker 1: the pool bo juice. It's like grand games say you 2357 02:35:32,879 --> 02:35:37,640 Speaker 1: don't say sorry. Yeah, because normally when people asking what's 2358 02:35:37,680 --> 02:35:39,160 Speaker 1: in the poopo juice, he used to say, if I 2359 02:35:39,240 --> 02:35:42,560 Speaker 1: tell you that, I gotta get you can kill him 2360 02:35:43,200 --> 02:35:45,960 Speaker 1: drink boo, he got me drunk. A nice seem like 2361 02:35:46,000 --> 02:35:50,360 Speaker 1: come here nor ship. Yeah, so you guys thought about 2362 02:35:50,360 --> 02:35:52,800 Speaker 1: doing the podcast. So that's not necessarily a podcast, but 2363 02:35:52,920 --> 02:35:55,000 Speaker 1: we kind of just used it as a representation of 2364 02:35:55,080 --> 02:35:58,480 Speaker 1: our dynamic. I think this would be a great podcast 2365 02:35:58,879 --> 02:36:01,680 Speaker 1: him it is that my idea of bringing to them 2366 02:36:01,720 --> 02:36:05,640 Speaker 1: about the cool connection, because they should get confused here. 2367 02:36:05,720 --> 02:36:08,680 Speaker 1: It is. They come to him and say, yeah, I 2368 02:36:08,720 --> 02:36:10,440 Speaker 1: don't remember you should be on the wady You say no, 2369 02:36:10,640 --> 02:36:16,960 Speaker 1: that's not me. A lot they're come to him and say, yo, man, 2370 02:36:16,959 --> 02:36:19,240 Speaker 1: I make your make you say that's not me. So 2371 02:36:19,360 --> 02:36:21,880 Speaker 1: I said, that's through the cool connection me as pops 2372 02:36:22,320 --> 02:36:27,320 Speaker 1: and everybody shows who they are as an individual. Didn't 2373 02:36:27,360 --> 02:36:29,480 Speaker 1: like that. I like that. I'm taking a shot to 2374 02:36:29,560 --> 02:36:33,760 Speaker 1: that's taking off. Although there you already poured off what 2375 02:36:33,800 --> 02:36:37,280 Speaker 1: the I thought you was hitting my boomp boom juice 2376 02:36:37,320 --> 02:36:41,520 Speaker 1: together boom boom. Wait, hold on before we drink the shot. Dude. 2377 02:36:41,520 --> 02:36:43,160 Speaker 1: I always wanted to know what the hell was in 2378 02:36:43,240 --> 02:36:51,920 Speaker 1: that bottlem episode. Isn't that bottle that? I don't think? No, 2379 02:36:53,120 --> 02:36:56,920 Speaker 1: I don't. That's about It's not. I don't get any 2380 02:36:57,280 --> 02:36:59,879 Speaker 1: kind of like taking ball Manny get talking to talk. 2381 02:37:00,000 --> 02:37:02,720 Speaker 1: A bone that snaps, it's just the Manican tiger bone 2382 02:37:03,200 --> 02:37:06,200 Speaker 1: that that is not that. You can do good and 2383 02:37:06,360 --> 02:37:12,160 Speaker 1: you can get drunk Dominican. You spin it on, maybe 2384 02:37:12,200 --> 02:37:15,800 Speaker 1: come a zone Dominican. Dominican is not donicanger bone. This 2385 02:37:15,959 --> 02:37:20,480 Speaker 1: is Dominican bo. You're already drunk. The shap you're gonna pass. 2386 02:37:20,800 --> 02:37:24,800 Speaker 1: I thought I thought you check you up. Dominican bone. 2387 02:37:25,160 --> 02:37:28,520 Speaker 1: It's not the same thing. Dominican Dominican. It's Dominican tiger bone. 2388 02:37:28,879 --> 02:37:30,480 Speaker 1: It's not yeah it is. It's yeah. I don't that 2389 02:37:30,560 --> 02:37:34,040 Speaker 1: you get away with this. Yeah, you want real tyger bone. No, 2390 02:37:34,160 --> 02:37:37,720 Speaker 1: I don't want that. Exactly what is until it's herbs 2391 02:37:37,760 --> 02:37:40,920 Speaker 1: and trees fermented till it. It's gonna take you to 2392 02:37:40,959 --> 02:37:43,920 Speaker 1: another planet. Should that's gonna make you work out right after? 2393 02:37:44,000 --> 02:37:46,440 Speaker 1: The is the puss to make you get a baby 2394 02:37:49,000 --> 02:37:54,000 Speaker 1: that I'm this is the not the This is the 2395 02:37:54,040 --> 02:38:01,800 Speaker 1: pom pom Juice, So Red, yes, is there anything you 2396 02:38:01,879 --> 02:38:04,840 Speaker 1: felt like you didn't complete in hip hop right now? 2397 02:38:05,480 --> 02:38:10,119 Speaker 1: Anything that you regret like or regret or just feel 2398 02:38:10,160 --> 02:38:18,680 Speaker 1: like you know anything or fixed. I don't know anything. 2399 02:38:21,320 --> 02:38:25,640 Speaker 1: I will admit that had opportunities to take it to 2400 02:38:25,760 --> 02:38:30,520 Speaker 1: different levels. In the business structure. I was not that 2401 02:38:31,240 --> 02:38:37,920 Speaker 1: much business savvy, which I had my reasons, But if 2402 02:38:37,959 --> 02:38:43,440 Speaker 1: I would have took that course, everything would be in 2403 02:38:43,520 --> 02:38:48,320 Speaker 1: a different matter. What hold me back? Because once again, 2404 02:38:49,080 --> 02:38:53,640 Speaker 1: you guys asked earlier the culture in the business, the 2405 02:38:53,760 --> 02:38:57,760 Speaker 1: corporate You know, when I got to find the other side, 2406 02:38:57,840 --> 02:39:01,840 Speaker 1: whether to take place in the business a culture, they 2407 02:39:01,959 --> 02:39:05,640 Speaker 1: had a sad, sad feeling. I had a bitter taste 2408 02:39:05,680 --> 02:39:07,720 Speaker 1: in my mouth because I knew where I come from 2409 02:39:08,720 --> 02:39:13,680 Speaker 1: and I have to do this to number one, sell 2410 02:39:13,800 --> 02:39:20,520 Speaker 1: my soul. Yeah, give up or whether the case may be, 2411 02:39:21,200 --> 02:39:24,640 Speaker 1: or the same note, just to get what I want 2412 02:39:24,680 --> 02:39:28,560 Speaker 1: to get. Then you know what that's ma, Who's say 2413 02:39:28,600 --> 02:39:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm might as gonna take the money go play a record. 2414 02:39:32,240 --> 02:39:35,920 Speaker 1: So that's why I never took that standard because I 2415 02:39:36,040 --> 02:39:40,760 Speaker 1: know I have that let production. But when I started 2416 02:39:40,800 --> 02:39:43,320 Speaker 1: seeing the other side that I never knew of and 2417 02:39:43,400 --> 02:39:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, that's not me. I mean, you know, 2418 02:39:49,840 --> 02:39:51,880 Speaker 1: everybody always wanted to tell you what you should do, 2419 02:39:52,000 --> 02:39:53,640 Speaker 1: but they never asked you what is it that you 2420 02:39:53,800 --> 02:39:58,880 Speaker 1: want to do. I didn't want to do that, So 2421 02:39:59,080 --> 02:40:02,760 Speaker 1: that's why I mean tame like where I'm at, and 2422 02:40:03,879 --> 02:40:06,840 Speaker 1: that's where I kept going forth for this life, for 2423 02:40:06,920 --> 02:40:11,959 Speaker 1: time consistency. So that's that's the only thing I regret, 2424 02:40:12,400 --> 02:40:15,880 Speaker 1: and I don't really regret. But if I had to 2425 02:40:15,920 --> 02:40:20,320 Speaker 1: go through that and just be smooth selling, I would 2426 02:40:20,360 --> 02:40:28,720 Speaker 1: have been all the way. That's it. It's just shafe 2427 02:40:28,760 --> 02:40:33,760 Speaker 1: to say what you know now to compared to what 2428 02:40:33,920 --> 02:40:37,840 Speaker 1: you knew back then, would you have done it all again? 2429 02:40:38,640 --> 02:40:42,360 Speaker 1: I would have done it differently, So that's what that's 2430 02:40:42,440 --> 02:40:46,520 Speaker 1: that's part of the regret, A small regret because I 2431 02:40:46,680 --> 02:40:51,520 Speaker 1: could have knowne how to you know, observed a little better? Right? 2432 02:40:51,680 --> 02:40:53,520 Speaker 1: You know what you know now? I would have been 2433 02:40:53,520 --> 02:40:56,440 Speaker 1: able to do it back then, you know. Can I 2434 02:40:56,480 --> 02:40:58,800 Speaker 1: add on to a question on what you're talking about 2435 02:40:59,120 --> 02:41:00,920 Speaker 1: that I like this? So I'm telling you this is 2436 02:41:01,000 --> 02:41:04,040 Speaker 1: the podcast reading the book I was reading the part 2437 02:41:04,080 --> 02:41:05,880 Speaker 1: of it might have been Russell Simmons book. I was 2438 02:41:05,920 --> 02:41:09,200 Speaker 1: being a couple of pages by the way clapping. Um. 2439 02:41:09,200 --> 02:41:11,560 Speaker 1: I I read Decoded and I read Russell Simmons book, 2440 02:41:11,560 --> 02:41:13,240 Speaker 1: and I think you mentioned in like the first five 2441 02:41:13,600 --> 02:41:19,400 Speaker 1: tempa so so really quick, I wanted to fiss, I want, 2442 02:41:19,800 --> 02:41:23,120 Speaker 1: I want to actually and maybe because you said this, 2443 02:41:23,440 --> 02:41:26,280 Speaker 1: I never actually if you realized this at this time? Right, 2444 02:41:26,720 --> 02:41:29,360 Speaker 1: it was kind of I read like you and Russell 2445 02:41:29,400 --> 02:41:32,400 Speaker 1: Simmons were like the only like hip hop management to 2446 02:41:32,720 --> 02:41:35,880 Speaker 1: hip hop management labels at a time, Like you know 2447 02:41:35,920 --> 02:41:37,520 Speaker 1: what I mean? So when i'm and when you say 2448 02:41:37,800 --> 02:41:39,959 Speaker 1: there's certain things about the things you would have been 2449 02:41:40,080 --> 02:41:44,680 Speaker 1: done different, did you realize that's what that was at 2450 02:41:44,720 --> 02:41:49,920 Speaker 1: the time that you was like creating that entrepreneurial self, 2451 02:41:50,400 --> 02:41:52,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You start your own label, 2452 02:41:52,280 --> 02:41:54,080 Speaker 1: like right now, that's the thing, right, we love Nick, 2453 02:41:54,160 --> 02:41:56,280 Speaker 1: We love all these people because they do their own thing. 2454 02:41:56,800 --> 02:41:59,040 Speaker 1: But we talked about native tones, we talked about artists 2455 02:41:59,080 --> 02:42:06,320 Speaker 1: you usher, then we tell about were you actually were 2456 02:42:06,520 --> 02:42:11,840 Speaker 1: when Chris actually started it. Only that you um made 2457 02:42:11,920 --> 02:42:14,160 Speaker 1: up the word or made up the even the slogan 2458 02:42:14,640 --> 02:42:17,840 Speaker 1: where you're a part of the actual management, Like well 2459 02:42:17,879 --> 02:42:20,280 Speaker 1: you're a part of that. That's I think that's what 2460 02:42:20,400 --> 02:42:25,879 Speaker 1: you're trying. Did you realize that kind of being being 2461 02:42:25,959 --> 02:42:31,200 Speaker 1: part of the blueprint. I have realized it afterwards. And 2462 02:42:31,240 --> 02:42:35,039 Speaker 1: when I realized it afterwards, that's what I said, Damn, 2463 02:42:35,080 --> 02:42:39,000 Speaker 1: I should have been a different vout a better about that. 2464 02:42:39,200 --> 02:42:42,840 Speaker 1: That's what it is. And then here's another thing. Chris 2465 02:42:43,080 --> 02:42:46,760 Speaker 1: was taken from me on the load. He was taken 2466 02:42:46,959 --> 02:42:50,160 Speaker 1: from you because when I had for him in regular 2467 02:42:50,320 --> 02:42:54,200 Speaker 1: production and they saw I was up and coming, they 2468 02:42:54,280 --> 02:42:58,800 Speaker 1: in his air for him to grow with them with 2469 02:42:59,000 --> 02:43:02,400 Speaker 1: Russian management. Huh were Russian management? Yes? I had to 2470 02:43:02,440 --> 02:43:06,560 Speaker 1: be rush management because that's what birth violator. And then 2471 02:43:06,720 --> 02:43:09,120 Speaker 1: so now I gotta actually straight up like when you 2472 02:43:09,240 --> 02:43:13,360 Speaker 1: see Rollater was formed. I was happy to that, and 2473 02:43:13,560 --> 02:43:18,480 Speaker 1: I let gonna tell you how that became. Because first 2474 02:43:19,360 --> 02:43:23,880 Speaker 1: they came to me about there was a record company Relativity. 2475 02:43:25,040 --> 02:43:31,080 Speaker 1: Steve No no, no, no, that's no no no no, yeah, yeah, 2476 02:43:31,120 --> 02:43:37,520 Speaker 1: but no Stevens there. Brie was there at Relativity. Um um, damn, mom. 2477 02:43:37,640 --> 02:43:40,960 Speaker 1: I was gonna say Alan Gromlock, but I forget, I 2478 02:43:41,040 --> 02:43:44,040 Speaker 1: forget who it is. I had to beat with them. 2479 02:43:46,560 --> 02:43:51,840 Speaker 1: Chris my representative. So they offered me to try to 2480 02:43:52,000 --> 02:43:55,320 Speaker 1: form a label deal. The only problem I couldn't do 2481 02:43:55,360 --> 02:43:58,120 Speaker 1: it because it's been a conflict of interest. I couldn't 2482 02:43:58,120 --> 02:44:01,520 Speaker 1: have a label deal and be on race Yo. That's 2483 02:44:01,560 --> 02:44:06,879 Speaker 1: a confident interest. So passed onto Chris. And that's where 2484 02:44:07,520 --> 02:44:13,800 Speaker 1: you see Fat Joe, che L beat Nuts. They came 2485 02:44:13,800 --> 02:44:20,520 Speaker 1: out under relativity and talk yeah, but me around all 2486 02:44:20,640 --> 02:44:24,600 Speaker 1: around that progama of time. Chris is also real an 2487 02:44:24,640 --> 02:44:30,320 Speaker 1: association with Russ so he you know what, he can 2488 02:44:30,640 --> 02:44:36,160 Speaker 1: offer that relativity to go ahead to form violators because 2489 02:44:36,240 --> 02:44:41,680 Speaker 1: remember his own brolla was Baby Sounds that was under 2490 02:44:41,680 --> 02:44:46,480 Speaker 1: the umbrolla was violate the management, violate the records, and 2491 02:44:46,600 --> 02:44:50,360 Speaker 1: a couple other different avenues, and that's what he formed. 2492 02:44:50,520 --> 02:44:53,720 Speaker 1: But he got his idea by being environd with relativity. 2493 02:44:54,440 --> 02:44:58,000 Speaker 1: But here it is they saw a jewel that was 2494 02:44:58,160 --> 02:45:03,640 Speaker 1: under me and they matched. Wow when you say they 2495 02:45:05,280 --> 02:45:16,120 Speaker 1: who we just mentioned? Yeah, that was one more the 2496 02:45:16,240 --> 02:45:20,480 Speaker 1: last one. And I always asked about this because you know, 2497 02:45:20,640 --> 02:45:24,879 Speaker 1: I lived in stuff like that. It's a lot of times. 2498 02:45:25,000 --> 02:45:32,360 Speaker 1: You tell me that Jungle Brothers cuted. You know, various 2499 02:45:32,360 --> 02:45:37,240 Speaker 1: other Native Tongue artists used to record in the career, right, 2500 02:45:37,840 --> 02:45:41,280 Speaker 1: tell me about the end House studio that they used 2501 02:45:41,320 --> 02:45:44,040 Speaker 1: to like, what was that environment like I was, I 2502 02:45:44,200 --> 02:45:46,080 Speaker 1: wasn't around, you know what I mean? So what was 2503 02:45:46,200 --> 02:45:51,280 Speaker 1: that like? And in the crib once you get arresting 2504 02:45:51,320 --> 02:45:53,800 Speaker 1: peace of my mother because my mother is like I 2505 02:45:53,879 --> 02:45:56,000 Speaker 1: always said, my way is the head of the whole 2506 02:45:56,200 --> 02:45:59,040 Speaker 1: entire thing, right, you know, I ain't gonna lie. And 2507 02:45:59,440 --> 02:46:01,400 Speaker 1: and they both can take more. He can tell you. 2508 02:46:02,240 --> 02:46:06,160 Speaker 1: Member was kangster, That little five foot and a half 2509 02:46:06,240 --> 02:46:10,320 Speaker 1: woman was something else, but she alive. Everybody to come 2510 02:46:10,400 --> 02:46:14,800 Speaker 1: through the crib and members of Jungle, members of Daylight, 2511 02:46:15,200 --> 02:46:22,680 Speaker 1: members of the tribe creeen l tie for Ultra, you 2512 02:46:22,720 --> 02:46:26,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean. The list is knowing everybody comes 2513 02:46:26,560 --> 02:46:29,320 Speaker 1: to the crib, amber's too late, should tell him you 2514 02:46:29,360 --> 02:46:33,400 Speaker 1: ain't going the way there on that couch. That's what 2515 02:46:33,520 --> 02:46:37,440 Speaker 1: it was like the electric So yeah, it was like 2516 02:46:37,560 --> 02:46:40,840 Speaker 1: that and it was always spending time. Then I was 2517 02:46:40,920 --> 02:46:43,760 Speaker 1: on the road that that year for the Dope Jam tour. 2518 02:46:44,360 --> 02:46:47,640 Speaker 1: They took over mother just like here. It is the 2519 02:46:47,760 --> 02:46:51,320 Speaker 1: same thing. Sammy was the DJ filling for me on 2520 02:46:52,000 --> 02:46:55,080 Speaker 1: Kiss From But when I learned there was different members 2521 02:46:55,120 --> 02:46:58,600 Speaker 1: of the natives, Mber was playing too turned over everybody. 2522 02:46:59,440 --> 02:47:04,760 Speaker 1: It was like go That's how they was moving. So 2523 02:47:04,920 --> 02:47:09,680 Speaker 1: that's what it was. Stuff. Man, I can't do nothing 2524 02:47:09,720 --> 02:47:15,240 Speaker 1: else but clapp all right. I just want you to 2525 02:47:15,360 --> 02:47:20,680 Speaker 1: know our show was about doing what we just did. 2526 02:47:20,840 --> 02:47:23,920 Speaker 1: Right there, we looked at everybody else and everything else 2527 02:47:24,040 --> 02:47:26,800 Speaker 1: going on, and my partner right here to the right 2528 02:47:26,840 --> 02:47:29,359 Speaker 1: of me kept telling me, man, let's do a podcast. 2529 02:47:29,440 --> 02:47:33,720 Speaker 1: Let's do a podcast, and we wanted to. When we 2530 02:47:33,840 --> 02:47:35,640 Speaker 1: came together, we said we want to do it different. 2531 02:47:35,680 --> 02:47:39,600 Speaker 1: We want to get people they roses, people that you 2532 02:47:39,680 --> 02:47:42,920 Speaker 1: don't deserve it like you know, not not no, no 2533 02:47:43,040 --> 02:47:45,400 Speaker 1: disrespect to the new people, because that's not what we're saying. 2534 02:47:45,440 --> 02:47:47,480 Speaker 1: We're not saying we don't mess with the new people. 2535 02:47:48,000 --> 02:47:51,560 Speaker 1: What we're saying is our legends deserved to be respected. 2536 02:47:51,600 --> 02:47:56,240 Speaker 1: Our legends deserve they don't deserve you know, yellow roses, 2537 02:47:56,400 --> 02:48:00,920 Speaker 1: they don't deserve white roses, and don't deserve ring ros letters, 2538 02:48:01,280 --> 02:48:06,560 Speaker 1: gold rolls, legends. You know what I'm saying, people who 2539 02:48:06,720 --> 02:48:10,360 Speaker 1: deserve You know that that that that that twenty years 2540 02:48:10,400 --> 02:48:13,840 Speaker 1: that ten years span, that fifteen years span, and um, 2541 02:48:15,360 --> 02:48:16,800 Speaker 1: we want to say it to your face. You know 2542 02:48:16,840 --> 02:48:20,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like so many people, something happened to 2543 02:48:20,600 --> 02:48:23,720 Speaker 1: somebody and me and my partner realize that, like people 2544 02:48:23,720 --> 02:48:28,040 Speaker 1: always give people the roses and they dead like let's 2545 02:48:28,160 --> 02:48:32,840 Speaker 1: let's let's let's let's can repeat doing it. And we've 2546 02:48:32,879 --> 02:48:36,600 Speaker 1: been luckily. I think we're approaching six years now, we're 2547 02:48:36,640 --> 02:48:39,720 Speaker 1: approaching six March. Six years we're doing that, and we 2548 02:48:39,879 --> 02:48:43,080 Speaker 1: ain't bite wing fold. We ain't do We were stuck 2549 02:48:43,160 --> 02:48:46,800 Speaker 1: to our legends and rather alert. Let me just tell 2550 02:48:46,840 --> 02:48:53,840 Speaker 1: you something. You are super duper legends, the allegend of legends, 2551 02:48:55,760 --> 02:48:59,879 Speaker 1: the coolest legends. And this is listen man, when because 2552 02:48:59,879 --> 02:49:02,440 Speaker 1: we gonna hit you out with the play see y'all 2553 02:49:02,440 --> 02:49:07,440 Speaker 1: gonna form a podcast we're doing y'are signed to drink, 2554 02:49:09,200 --> 02:49:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but when they come time liten, this is 2555 02:49:12,400 --> 02:49:16,320 Speaker 1: your platform, Our show is your show. You've always ever 2556 02:49:16,400 --> 02:49:19,400 Speaker 1: since I've seen you, Rad, I've never I can't remember 2557 02:49:19,640 --> 02:49:22,520 Speaker 1: any time I ever seen Rad Alert, and I was 2558 02:49:22,959 --> 02:49:26,200 Speaker 1: was displeasure. I've always it's always been great. And you 2559 02:49:26,240 --> 02:49:29,200 Speaker 1: always got me drunk too. You probably like, yeah, you 2560 02:49:29,280 --> 02:49:40,640 Speaker 1: always like he still got you drunk and realized that. 2561 02:49:41,440 --> 02:49:45,280 Speaker 1: But you always was a great soul. Every time I've 2562 02:49:45,280 --> 02:49:48,560 Speaker 1: seen you, you've been a blessing. You've been a legend, 2563 02:49:49,360 --> 02:49:53,760 Speaker 1: you've been a teacher, um, and we were so happy 2564 02:49:53,840 --> 02:49:55,800 Speaker 1: to give you your roses. We're so happy to tell 2565 02:49:55,840 --> 02:50:00,680 Speaker 1: you how much you mean to us, hip hop, the culture, 2566 02:50:01,320 --> 02:50:05,800 Speaker 1: everything man. Like. You know, we've always you know, talking 2567 02:50:05,920 --> 02:50:09,680 Speaker 1: this hip hop union ship. And you know that's when 2568 02:50:09,720 --> 02:50:12,280 Speaker 1: I think of hip hop union, I think of you know, 2569 02:50:12,440 --> 02:50:14,440 Speaker 1: people on the forefront of it. It's just like, yo, 2570 02:50:15,000 --> 02:50:18,880 Speaker 1: we should have you at the forefront. I'm just saying 2571 02:50:19,000 --> 02:50:21,760 Speaker 1: what the funk should should happen, because you know what 2572 02:50:21,920 --> 02:50:24,120 Speaker 1: it is. Even when I tried to get you to 2573 02:50:24,160 --> 02:50:26,879 Speaker 1: say something wrong about something, you didn't do it tonight. 2574 02:50:27,440 --> 02:50:33,400 Speaker 1: I tried to. I tried to. No, I wasn't gonna 2575 02:50:33,400 --> 02:50:36,800 Speaker 1: do that. He told me, not drinking. I can't do that. 2576 02:50:36,879 --> 02:50:39,760 Speaker 1: I can't. No, I can't do that unless he was 2577 02:50:40,120 --> 02:50:44,240 Speaker 1: he Sometimes you get you, Okay, I want to be mad, 2578 02:50:48,280 --> 02:50:53,080 Speaker 1: but you know our honestly, honestly aside, you really deserve 2579 02:50:53,640 --> 02:51:00,320 Speaker 1: your flowers. You really a legend. Everything you accomplishment, um, Like, 2580 02:51:00,920 --> 02:51:04,640 Speaker 1: I mean, forget me as a rapper, I'm talking about 2581 02:51:04,640 --> 02:51:10,000 Speaker 1: me as a fan. I remember just so and just 2582 02:51:10,160 --> 02:51:12,840 Speaker 1: running too a radio and just you know, sitting there 2583 02:51:12,840 --> 02:51:15,560 Speaker 1: and watching the older brothers. You know, smoke weed when 2584 02:51:15,600 --> 02:51:21,959 Speaker 1: I was like, let's just think and they were right, Hey, 2585 02:51:22,040 --> 02:51:24,440 Speaker 1: can I give a shout out to this lady that's 2586 02:51:24,680 --> 02:51:27,440 Speaker 1: in here with us? She's over there on the side, 2587 02:51:28,800 --> 02:51:35,280 Speaker 1: she having short on and shortest Union Square. We were there, 2588 02:51:35,360 --> 02:51:38,280 Speaker 1: you know, we was you there? Where are you there? 2589 02:51:41,440 --> 02:51:44,240 Speaker 1: That's also part of the prop Master retro should that 2590 02:51:44,400 --> 02:51:47,080 Speaker 1: you have if I can go on prop Master metro, 2591 02:51:47,560 --> 02:51:52,280 Speaker 1: So that gonna be the documentary? Huh? Is that going 2592 02:51:52,320 --> 02:51:57,520 Speaker 1: to be the documentary? Not for nothing? She also should 2593 02:51:57,560 --> 02:52:00,720 Speaker 1: be a part of the documentary. That's tell us the 2594 02:52:00,800 --> 02:52:04,960 Speaker 1: bottom of it that you do know who that is? 2595 02:52:05,480 --> 02:52:08,160 Speaker 1: Tell us this lady right here is the person that 2596 02:52:08,520 --> 02:52:12,040 Speaker 1: showed me when I first started Union Square and then 2597 02:52:12,280 --> 02:52:17,640 Speaker 1: evolved later on as management of the Shadow nightclub. That's 2598 02:52:17,640 --> 02:52:23,200 Speaker 1: where the gods were being shadow up earlier. Shadow. Yes, 2599 02:52:23,680 --> 02:52:34,400 Speaker 1: that's as well. Add the Shadow book wide that we 2600 02:52:34,480 --> 02:52:41,360 Speaker 1: do every year. Anything about it. When you see good 2601 02:52:41,440 --> 02:52:46,080 Speaker 1: people that you have history with, beautiful, Now that lawyer 2602 02:52:46,160 --> 02:52:50,680 Speaker 1: t you go with that lawyer because you know there's 2603 02:52:50,680 --> 02:52:53,840 Speaker 1: a real out of respect with that lawyer. That's beautiful. 2604 02:52:53,920 --> 02:52:56,640 Speaker 1: That's what it is. So is there anything that we 2605 02:52:56,800 --> 02:53:00,480 Speaker 1: ain't covered that we should have covered anybody. Do you 2606 02:53:00,560 --> 02:53:05,000 Speaker 1: want to couple anything? Um, this pub can probably tell 2607 02:53:05,000 --> 02:53:06,800 Speaker 1: you some things that we're haven't store. I don't know 2608 02:53:06,879 --> 02:53:10,040 Speaker 1: what you want to say. This is what you're the one. 2609 02:53:10,120 --> 02:53:12,920 Speaker 1: I've been doing the old school reunion, like I said, 2610 02:53:12,920 --> 02:53:15,359 Speaker 1: I was doing with Molly and and we still continue. 2611 02:53:15,400 --> 02:53:17,440 Speaker 1: We just had a nice little celebration for for my 2612 02:53:17,520 --> 02:53:21,000 Speaker 1: forty five years last month, you know, and we're still 2613 02:53:21,040 --> 02:53:23,120 Speaker 1: doing it. We're gonna go as as far as we can, 2614 02:53:23,160 --> 02:53:25,200 Speaker 1: the old school re union. We've been doing it for 2615 02:53:25,320 --> 02:53:29,120 Speaker 1: like twelve thirteen years strong Rest of Peace. DJ Lance, 2616 02:53:29,480 --> 02:53:33,480 Speaker 1: one of our DJs passed away from covid um, but 2617 02:53:33,640 --> 02:53:37,880 Speaker 1: with Molly mall Um rather alert. We had we had 2618 02:53:37,920 --> 02:53:43,280 Speaker 1: Claude Camper, we had Uncle Ralph Nobuck star Ski. Yeah 2619 02:53:43,360 --> 02:53:45,680 Speaker 1: you know, so we had a list of good DJ's, 2620 02:53:46,000 --> 02:53:57,240 Speaker 1: talented DJ's. Yeah, yeah, yeah, world, I ain't know that. 2621 02:53:58,200 --> 02:54:00,560 Speaker 1: And you know my reason for celebra of forty five 2622 02:54:00,640 --> 02:54:03,200 Speaker 1: years because I look at this, like he just mentioned 2623 02:54:03,240 --> 02:54:05,440 Speaker 1: by my man, DJ Lands, he was like the top 2624 02:54:05,640 --> 02:54:08,120 Speaker 1: DJ in Brooklyn in the past that he was known 2625 02:54:08,480 --> 02:54:11,039 Speaker 1: him as Master d then he changed the name DJ Lands. 2626 02:54:11,760 --> 02:54:17,200 Speaker 1: He held Brooklyn down single handed for years. Him and 2627 02:54:17,280 --> 02:54:20,440 Speaker 1: I rebuild a great relation and we found out we 2628 02:54:20,560 --> 02:54:23,280 Speaker 1: had something in common that we've started the same year. 2629 02:54:23,560 --> 02:54:26,520 Speaker 1: He started in May, I started in August. Unfortunately he's 2630 02:54:26,560 --> 02:54:30,439 Speaker 1: not here to celebrate that. So my reason was sufferings 2631 02:54:30,480 --> 02:54:34,080 Speaker 1: forty five years because I'm dedicating this forty five to 2632 02:54:34,440 --> 02:54:39,680 Speaker 1: all the DJs I know throughout the time that we 2633 02:54:39,720 --> 02:54:43,040 Speaker 1: no longer have here. I mean not just riffering up 2634 02:54:43,080 --> 02:54:46,480 Speaker 1: in New York, and I mean across the country, people 2635 02:54:46,520 --> 02:54:49,320 Speaker 1: I know from overseas, everybody that passed away that brought 2636 02:54:49,400 --> 02:54:52,000 Speaker 1: them to the table. I've dedicate my forty five to dump. 2637 02:54:56,879 --> 02:54:59,480 Speaker 1: But I gotta ask this question because I'm never gonna 2638 02:54:59,600 --> 02:55:12,480 Speaker 1: know what was the Boopies like in the eighties, the group. 2639 02:55:12,520 --> 02:55:16,280 Speaker 1: He's like, you know the girls? The girls? Yeah, was 2640 02:55:16,320 --> 02:55:26,400 Speaker 1: you a finger Papara? He's gonna cut it up before math. 2641 02:55:26,480 --> 02:55:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Before many when you was out there loose, 2642 02:55:31,080 --> 02:55:34,160 Speaker 1: we all was loose. Come on, I think that's where 2643 02:55:34,200 --> 02:55:39,560 Speaker 1: his intro came. I can only put it rung weight. 2644 02:55:40,560 --> 02:55:43,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna keep it clean. I'd like to thank everybody 2645 02:55:43,760 --> 02:56:16,480 Speaker 1: for the black body I fling. Oh my god, thanks 2646 02:56:16,560 --> 02:56:19,039 Speaker 1: for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs hosted 2647 02:56:19,080 --> 02:56:21,320 Speaker 1: by Yours Truly, d j e f N and n 2648 02:56:21,400 --> 02:56:23,440 Speaker 1: O r E. Please make sure to follow us on 2649 02:56:23,480 --> 02:56:26,640 Speaker 1: all our socials. 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