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Speaker 1: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray

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Speaker 1: for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.

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Speaker 2: You've not got a free shot. All these networks lying

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Speaker 2: about the people. The people have had a belly full

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Speaker 2: of it. I know you don't like hearing that.

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Speaker 1: I know you try to do everything in the world

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Speaker 2: It's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: And where do people like that go to share the

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Speaker 3: big line? Mega media?

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Speaker 4: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of

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Speaker 2: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 3: If that answer is to save.

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Speaker 2: My country, this country will be saved.

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Speaker 1: War Room.

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Speaker 3: Here's your host, Stephen kVA.

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Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, twenty five, Junior Year of our Lord, twenty

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Speaker 2: By the way, here at the war Room.

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Speaker 1: We've got a little activity going on, doing a little redesign,

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Speaker 1: so we have to work through this course of drink.

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Speaker 1: Is something done quick? Raheemkasami here the twelve day War.

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Speaker 1: President Trump's just gave a press conference in the Netherlands.

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Speaker 2: I called it that.

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Speaker 1: I guess they're having an agreement signed the Hague agreement.

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Speaker 1: They're talking about five percent for NATO spending, which is massive.

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Speaker 1: President Trump has won a massive victory there to get

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Speaker 1: the NATO countries to start to pull their weight, which

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Speaker 1: Most importantly, the twelve Day War is over right, So

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Speaker 1: for tel Aviv Levin and the people that are the

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Speaker 1: town criers for the net Yahoo regime, bad news.

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Speaker 2: The war is over, not gonna.

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Speaker 1: Be any more American involvement, no more regime change, no

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Speaker 1: more support for any regime change.

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Speaker 2: President Trump is done, one and done.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't have been more adamant about that massive political

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Speaker 1: earthquake last night in New York City. You saw this

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Speaker 2: So I want to tie.

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Speaker 1: Together the end of the two twelve day war in

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Speaker 2: The place is obliterated. We did our duty.

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Speaker 1: We're moving on, and I don't even if we're gonna

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Speaker 1: out to what happened in New York City last night, Steve.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if we've got the meme up that

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Speaker 5: front cover of my book from twenty sixteen called Nogo Zones,

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Speaker 5: How Sharia is coming to a neighborhood near you, and

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Speaker 5: New York City did not take one step towards it yesterday.

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Speaker 3: It took one giant leap towards it yesterday.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I would like to get into the

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Speaker 5: This guy has been here since I think nineteen ninety nine,

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Speaker 5: to a group of Muslims called the Twelvers, who believe

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Speaker 3: And I've yet to hear any.

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Speaker 5: Reporters on the campaign trail in New York put these

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Speaker 5: Because he's affirmed his belief in that sect of Islamish

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Speaker 5: fusion of hard left revolutionaries and Islamist movements. What unites

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Speaker 5: And I think if woke AI is coming out with that,

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Speaker 1: third world. This is what's showing you. Almost twenty five

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Speaker 1: So Ben Harnwell from Rome, you've been our lead guy

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Speaker 4: Well, look, let's just the first specifically, once again to

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Speaker 4: To think, Steve, I'm a relatively astute observer of international affairs.

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Speaker 1: a breakout moment coming and they had to go and

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Speaker 1: they had to bomb. This article certainly doesn't point to that,

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Speaker 1: does it, Sir, No.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't, And that doesn't mean that I'm you know,

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Speaker 6: I agree with you. It seems to be a well

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Speaker 6: researched article. I don't. Certainly, not the case always with

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Speaker 6: the Washington Post. But look, I think it raises a

443
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Speaker 6: lot of good questions and it's disturbing and we need

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Speaker 6: answers to that. I think we need answers in general

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Speaker 6: to what the heck just happened. The President of the

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Speaker 6: United States, commander in chief. He doesn't get to just

447
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Speaker 6: hit the pause button and take all the time he

448
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Speaker 6: needs to sort everything out, right, You got to you

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Speaker 6: understand this. As I haven't been a military officer, I

450
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Speaker 6: understand it. You've got to make decisions. You got what

451
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Speaker 6: information you've got, you got what advice you've got, and

452
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Speaker 6: you don't get to just punt, so you make the

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Speaker 6: best decisions in the interest of the country at the time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we did that.

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Speaker 6: Now I think we really need to walk through this

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Speaker 6: and say, okay, wait, there's a whole bunch of questions here.

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Speaker 6: As I put in my article that we put out today,

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Speaker 6: I mean, let's start with ford Ow, this obsession with

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Speaker 6: we got to go in. We got to bomb ford Ow.

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Speaker 2: We're the only guys that can do it.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 6: Not to get lost in the weeds of how you

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Speaker 6: build a nuclear weapon, but that enrichment facility at ford

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Speaker 6: Ou is not That's not the whole Iranian nuclear program.

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Speaker 6: If there were actually about two weeks from having an

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Speaker 6: operational nuke, actually having it's unclear how many, nine to

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Speaker 6: fifteen according to the Israeli all right, well, they got

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Speaker 6: everything they needed out of ford Hour a long time ago,

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Speaker 6: because that's enriched uranium gas. Then you got to turn

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Speaker 6: it into metal, you got to machine it, YadA YadA,

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Speaker 6: You got to put it into a device with neutron

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Speaker 6: initiator and wiring harnesses and all the other crap nobody

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Speaker 6: cares about. The point is that all takes time, So

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Speaker 6: bombing ford Ou would while it might be a great idea.

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Speaker 3: Because it stops.

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Speaker 6: More uranium from being enriched would not end the immediate

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Speaker 6: threat that enriched uranium would have already at the time

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Speaker 6: that Yahoo started. This likely been moved somewhere else. So

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Speaker 6: why were we told that ford Hou was a screaming

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Speaker 6: emergency and if they moved it somewhere else where the

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Speaker 6: heck did they move it? And did the Israelis bomb that?

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Speaker 6: And what happened? And has there been bombed damage assessment there?

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Speaker 6: There's just a you know, there's a lot of questions

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Speaker 6: like that here to say, wait a second, and you know,

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Speaker 6: my opinion on this, the fact that we are relying

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Speaker 6: so much on intelligence from a foreign country, even a

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Speaker 6: close ally, leaves me feeling really really uncomfortable. That's that's

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Speaker 6: not how this should go. The president needs, well need

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Speaker 6: his own intelligence.

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Speaker 2: Worked at the sources.

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Speaker 1: You've worked at the Sea, I mean, and this is

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Speaker 1: why I think the administry. Look, President Trump did his

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Speaker 1: duty as commander in chief. The bombing has taking place there,

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Speaker 1: adamant about it is obliterated, and he has said right there,

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Speaker 1: when it done, we're gone. Right, there's no more regime changes.

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Speaker 1: Talking about in Persia. The Persian people want to do it. Fine,

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Speaker 1: but he's out right. I don't think that could be

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Speaker 1: more definitive. And I know for the Lviv Levin crowd

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Speaker 1: and all the uh, all the uh, the people that

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Speaker 1: represent a foreign government or speak for a foreign government,

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Speaker 1: or or sure leads for a foreign government over fox,

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Speaker 1: I know that's going to break your heart. All the

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Speaker 1: regime change and people in boots and ground. President Trump

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Speaker 1: could be harder. But Sam, I'll come back to you.

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Speaker 1: You take a short commercial break. But this thing's pretty

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Speaker 1: adamant that the that it was about the air defenses

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Speaker 1: that the Israelis knocked down being rebuilt. They had an

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Speaker 1: opportunity because they're knocked down in general. Corilla at Sencom,

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Speaker 1: because you know what a beasts income is is set

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Speaker 1: to retire.

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Speaker 2: I think July one, And this is why we're.

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Speaker 1: Calling for whatever information the CIA has and the Massad

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Speaker 1: has to be put forward about exactly what this breakout

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Speaker 1: moment was. Short commercial break, We're gonna be back in

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Speaker 1: the warm in just a moment.

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Speaker 8: THAT'SI bottom capital Hill saying that everything had been suspended

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Speaker 8: since two thousand and three and had not restarted, that

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Speaker 8: the nuclear program had not been restarted by the Iranians,

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Speaker 8: So did something change from end of March until this week.

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Speaker 8: Was the US intel wrong?

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Speaker 7: The intel we got and we shared with the United

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Speaker 7: States was absolutely clear. It was absolutely clear that they

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Speaker 7: were working in a secret plan to weaponize the uranium.

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Speaker 7: They were marching very quickly. They would achieve a test

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Speaker 7: device and possibly an initial device within months and certainly

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Speaker 7: less than a year. That was the intel we shared

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Speaker 7: with the United States. I think we have excellent intel

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Speaker 7: in Iran. I think we've proven that, and that is

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Speaker 7: something that we couldn't possibly accept, whether it would be

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Speaker 7: six months or twelve months or thirteen months as immterial.

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Speaker 7: Once they go that route, it's too late and we

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Speaker 7: will not have a second Holocaust, a nuclear holocaust. We

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Speaker 7: already had one in the previous century. The Jewish state

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Speaker 7: is not going to have the Holocaust emitted on the

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Speaker 7: Jewish people.

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Speaker 2: It's not going to happen.

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Speaker 7: It's never again, is now, and we have to act now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Sam, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: The Washington Post story and I realized it's the Bezos

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Speaker 1: Amazon Washington Post. But this thing has not been refuted yet.

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Speaker 1: This article puts a lie to that statement. Correct about

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Speaker 1: whatna who said, and even in nta, who's his pitch.

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Speaker 2: It's a year away, is it not, sir?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there is the issue, as you've pointed out, from

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Speaker 6: the beginning of depending on which is raerely speaking, at

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Speaker 6: what time, the how immediate this threat is seems to

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Speaker 6: bounce all over the place, from twelve to you know,

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Speaker 6: from two weeks to a year. But yeah, the the

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Speaker 6: Washington Post article clearly says that this is a lie.

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Speaker 6: What the Washington Post article says to me is we

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Speaker 6: got played.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 6: You can believe that, you cannot believe that you can.

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Speaker 6: You can take pieces of that, but that basically the

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Speaker 6: Israelis ran the game on us is And the answer

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Speaker 6: to this, I know, I'm the broken record. The answer

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Speaker 6: to this is you don't have a president who's left

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Speaker 6: in the position where he doesn't have his own intelligence

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Speaker 6: people telling him what is really that he can count on.

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Speaker 6: So if the Israelis come and tell us something and

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Speaker 6: it's not accurate, he can nod and smile and do

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Speaker 6: whatever he wants.

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Speaker 2: But he knows.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, look, man, I get better intelligence than you. I

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Speaker 6: know that you're playing with me, and I'm not going

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Speaker 6: to react or if there really is a threat, you

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Speaker 6: know what The real answer is that CIA should have

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Speaker 6: come to him before Net and Yahoo ever got to

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Speaker 6: him and said, we got to act, but one way

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Speaker 6: or the other, we got to have our own sources

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Speaker 6: and our own people. We cannot let a foreign nation,

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Speaker 6: no matter how close an ally, tell us what.

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Speaker 2: To do and lead us around.

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Speaker 1: Supposedly the CIA, and I think this is why they

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Speaker 1: didn't go to Capitol Hill because they the story right now.

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Speaker 1: I think the CI and Ratcliffe may have agreed or

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Speaker 1: put that in front of the president. Isn't this why

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Speaker 1: you need a Team B? Doesn't the president need I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's JD. Vance or somebody. Obviously it's

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Speaker 1: close to Marco Pete, but somebody who's got the intelligence

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Speaker 1: vertical that's coming to him. But this is what Reagan

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Speaker 1: did to avoid what happened to Carter and the disaster

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Speaker 1: in guess what in Iran with the hostage the failed

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Speaker 1: hostage rescue, which crushed Carter in the election and forever

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Speaker 1: is hung on him as far as being a loser goes.

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Speaker 1: Bill Casey, who was a Wall Street deal guy, set

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Speaker 1: up a Team B immediately so President Reagan would always

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Speaker 1: have an independent assessment that intelligence was coming to him

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Speaker 1: because when they stepped in there, as you remember Sam

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Speaker 1: very well, and I think you allen book casing, those

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Speaker 1: guys didn't really think the CIA was doing a good

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Speaker 1: job of giving information to Nixon into other people, correct,

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Speaker 1: And so they set up a team B. Is that

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Speaker 1: not when President Trump needs now.

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Speaker 6: Sir, yeah, you need you need the people who are

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Speaker 6: going to who are going to ask the hard questions

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Speaker 6: and aren't just going to go with sort of the

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Speaker 6: group dynamics and the conventional wisdom and the way this

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Speaker 6: bucy bureaucracy ends up defaulting to making statements that sound

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Speaker 6: definitive but aren't. So if you'd ask the intelligence community

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Speaker 6: the day before nine to eleven, are there any intelligence threats?

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Speaker 6: Are we about to get hit? They would have said

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Speaker 6: something to the effect of we have no current intelligence

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Speaker 6: of any threats to the home land, which sounds like

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Speaker 6: we're good to go, but actually what it means is

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Speaker 6: we don't have any intelligence. We don't know anything, is

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Speaker 6: what they're saying. Okay, you make these assessments about the

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Speaker 6: status of the Iranian nuclear program. Is that because you've

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Speaker 6: got a bunch of guys and us saying basically, there

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Speaker 6: is none there's nothing to worry about. Is that because

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Speaker 6: you got six guys on the payroll at the top

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Speaker 6: of that program and you've got it covered. Or is

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Speaker 6: that because you've got no act access at all. You

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Speaker 6: don't have any idea what's going on. In other words,

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Speaker 6: you don't see that they have a nuclear program. Those

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Speaker 6: are two dramatically different things. Again, if you don't know

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Speaker 6: the right questions to ask and you don't kind of

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Speaker 6: push back on these briefings, yeah, the room will be

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Speaker 6: filled with smoke and you will be led astray.

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Speaker 1: Sam, where do people go to get your analysis of

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Speaker 1: this over at and magazine? I know you're on substack

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Speaker 1: and we want your social media.

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Speaker 6: Also, andmagazine dot substack dot com. I'm on Twitter is real,

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Speaker 6: Sam Fattus, I am on truth Social is real. Sam

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Speaker 6: fatus on Getter as well.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, sir, appreciate you. Appreciate you writing that and

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Speaker 2: doing that analysis.

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Speaker 7: Firs.

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Speaker 2: Scott, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's got to read this, Grace in Moo if you

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Speaker 1: can push it out hard into all the chats.

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Speaker 2: Derek Harvey.

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Speaker 1: So one of the reasons the ceasefire came and President

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Speaker 1: Trump has said we're done the twelve day war is

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Speaker 1: over right, and the American bombing rate settled it, the

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Speaker 1: industrial in the scientific process to be other bombed damage assessment.

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Speaker 2: But he said it's done.

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Speaker 1: And he said they've got Israeli guys that have put

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Speaker 1: eyeballs on it.

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Speaker 2: But it's done.

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Speaker 1: But you get back to the actual beginning of this

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Speaker 1: and did the Israelis bite the Nitta?

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Speaker 2: Who bite off more?

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Speaker 1: You contrute you got to talk about because they talked

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Speaker 1: about ballistic missiles. Just didn't It just wasn't the nuclear program.

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Speaker 1: His other objective was the ballistic missiles. The United States

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Speaker 1: from the beginning stepped in here where they were taking

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Speaker 1: them out to defend Israel, the state of Visuel and

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Speaker 1: the people of Israel. Correct, Eric, and we've got a

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Speaker 1: very they have a very sophisticated system. But it was overwhelmed.

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Speaker 1: And if it wasn't for the Americans stepping in here

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Speaker 1: with our ages and the early bird cruisers and other aspects,

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Speaker 1: it could have been and it was a pretty big disaster.

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Speaker 1: The citizens of Israel got hit, particularly hard in haifa

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Speaker 1: In and particularly in Tel Aviv. Can you just walk

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Speaker 1: us through the quick overview of the system and how

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Speaker 1: we were able to kind of plug the holes.

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, I will.

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Speaker 10: First off, you know, I think there was a level

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Speaker 10: of coordination heading up to the end of the sixty

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Speaker 10: day period of negotiations and Israel struck you know, the

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Speaker 10: very next day. And from the Israeli perspective, you know,

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Speaker 10: they were marching towards war in all likelihood because sequentially

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Speaker 10: they had you know, negated the missile threat really from Gaza,

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Speaker 10: and then you know, next step was you know, has

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Speaker 10: Blah with their one hundred and fifty thousand rockets and

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Speaker 10: then you know the hoosies and you know Iran has

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Speaker 10: always relied on those, and during that whole process, you know,

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Speaker 10: when when Iran fired, they you know, had a retaliation

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Speaker 10: and the Israelis took out, you know, the whole air

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Speaker 10: defense system in reality for for Iran, So you know,

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Speaker 10: from a defensive perspective, it made the threat to them,

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Speaker 10: you know, much more limited and then they could really

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Speaker 10: focus on Iran. And you know, from the Iranian perspective,

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Speaker 10: you know, you know, they they have a lot of capabilities,

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Speaker 10: hypersonic ballistic missiles, they've been working on ICBMs, they've got

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Speaker 10: the long range drones. But for the Israelis. You know,

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Speaker 10: they've got you know, Patriot Pack threes. You know, they've

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Speaker 10: got you know, arrow, they've got the Iron Dome. But

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Speaker 10: they still needed our support. And that came from you know,

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Speaker 10: Agis cruisers off the coast, came from our relocating that

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Speaker 10: theater a ballistic missile defense. It came from the layered

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Speaker 10: capabilities that we had you know, in the Gulf and

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Speaker 10: you know elsewhere that could support. And then for the drones,

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Speaker 10: our Air Force actually you know, provided you know a

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Speaker 10: lot of shootdown capability, and we helped coordinate, you know,

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Speaker 10: the ability to fly and counter these these threats you

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Speaker 10: know over you know, airspace between Iran and Israel. But

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Speaker 10: they could not have defended themselves without the support of

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Speaker 10: the United States and and the permissions given. And secondly,

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Speaker 10: you know, if you're looking at from Iran's perspective, you know,

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Speaker 10: you only had one really array coming in to Israel,

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Speaker 10: you know, from Iranian territory, which made it easier to target.

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Speaker 10: If they would have had to you know, defend against

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Speaker 10: you know, Hasbellah and the Huthis and Gaza, it would

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Speaker 10: have been you know overwhelming for them. And so that's

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Speaker 10: a lesson learned that it's not just the nuke, as

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Speaker 10: you mentioned, Steve, they have to be able to defend

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Speaker 10: uh in the future against you know, these these missiles

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Speaker 10: which will be rebuilt, these capabilities will in all likelihood

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Speaker 10: you know, be expanded and rebuilt. And they're going to

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Speaker 10: learn lessons in Tehran about how to prepare for the

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Speaker 10: next time.

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Speaker 1: But here and there probably will be in that time.

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Speaker 1: But here's the point of and we believe in Israel first.

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Speaker 1: We think American citizens ought to be pushing America first,

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Speaker 1: and you don't see that at Fox News, and particularly

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Speaker 1: you don't see that with tel Aviv Lovin.

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Speaker 2: In that crowd. They're going to push Israel first. And

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Speaker 2: here's the problem. Three things.

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Speaker 1: Number One, this story, unless it's refuted, shows that there

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Speaker 1: was no urgency.

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Speaker 2: The the the.

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Speaker 1: Intelligence, the new intelligence was very garbled. But the two

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Speaker 1: things stand out. They definitely knew the air defenses were down,

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Speaker 1: they had knocked them out, and they had an opportunity

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Speaker 1: before they got rebuilt. And they knew Gorilla at Sencam

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Speaker 1: was one of their biggest supporters and had already worked

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Speaker 1: through the battle plan.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and I have no problem with that. They're putting

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Speaker 2: Israel first.

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Speaker 1: That's what they're supposed to you know, whose government's supposed

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Speaker 1: to put Israel first. They're supposed to defend Israel. But

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Speaker 1: that in starting the initiative in the sense of agency

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Speaker 1: that they didn't have the capability and it wouldn't really

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Speaker 1: even seem as a priority to take out the nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 1: That's this was all driven to a regime change. That's

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Speaker 1: that's why they went to the upsell immediately. And number three,

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Speaker 1: they didn't have the defensive capabilities. That's why on the

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Speaker 1: twelfth day or the eleventh day, President Trump stepped in

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Speaker 1: for the for the ceasefire. The Israelis were getting pounded pounded.

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Speaker 1: It's looking worse because we don't have I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: kind of running out of equipment too, are we not

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Speaker 1: derect to a degree?

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Speaker 10: Well, I think from a geostrategic perspective, you know, one

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Speaker 10: of the issues for US has been you know, being

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Speaker 10: entangled in the Middle East and inhibiting our ability to shift,

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Speaker 10: you know, in many ways to the threat from China.

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Speaker 10: And you know, the outcome of this conflict, you know,

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Speaker 10: it's going to keep US entangled in the region. You know,

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Speaker 10: the near term threat is not going to be as

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Speaker 10: much from Iran. You know, they've been brutalized through this campaign,

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Speaker 10: but you know, as you mentioned, they're probably going to

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Speaker 10: come back, you know, unless there's you know, interim agreements

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Speaker 10: that you address some of these issues, the nuclear you know,

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Speaker 10: the ballistic missiles in the proxy war. But Iran is

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Speaker 10: more isolated than it has been. They found that both

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Speaker 10: China and Russia weren't either able or willing to step in,

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Speaker 10: and their allies, you know, has Balah Lebanon. That's I

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Speaker 10: think they've been isolated in Lebanon, and you know they're

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Speaker 10: surrounded by you know, a Syrian regime that no longer

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Speaker 10: you know, works with them and is a conduit for Iran.

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Speaker 10: So from an Israeli geostrategic perspective, it's looking much better.

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Speaker 10: And from Iran's perspective, it's not looking good. But I

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Speaker 10: go back to getting to your point, the quality of intelligence,

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Speaker 10: the objectivity of the intelligence, and the reliability of it,

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Speaker 10: And is the you know, intelligence getting to the president

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Speaker 10: is it being fairly.

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Speaker 6: Fat We are.

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Speaker 10: Many wise overly dependent on on Israel for access and

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Speaker 10: understanding what's going on. You know, a lot of our

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Speaker 10: capabilities would be Sam Fattis mentioned we do have to

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Speaker 10: rely on a team B, team A, I think more.

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Speaker 10: And there has been doubt about the reliability of the

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Speaker 10: intelligence coming out of the you know, the the agencies,

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Speaker 10: especially the national intelligence estimates, not just on this aroun estimate,

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Speaker 10: but on the Nick the Venezuelan CDA assessment that said

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Speaker 10: there's no collaboration.

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Speaker 2: And then the question about the colonel.

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Speaker 1: Just a colonel, just hang on for one second or

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Speaker 1: take a break. I think we're going to reboot you too,

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Speaker 1: because we've lost part.

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Speaker 2: Of your very powerful message. Sure commercial break back in

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Speaker 2: the warm in just a moment. God we realistic?

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Speaker 3: Is your host Stephen kback? Derek?

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Speaker 2: Can you just give me that game?

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Speaker 1: You were garbled, That's why I had to read bootch

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Speaker 1: you just give me again what you were saying towards

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Speaker 1: the end of your hit.

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Speaker 10: Well, it is not a good thing for the United

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Speaker 10: States and for our decision makers to be over reliant,

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Speaker 10: overly reliant on you know, a partner an ally, whether

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Speaker 10: it's the UK or Israel, for really deep understanding about

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Speaker 10: what's going on in threat countries. And unfortunately, you know,

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Speaker 10: the Israelis, you know, have the dominant position and they

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Speaker 10: have extreme penetration of you know, the region, and you

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Speaker 10: can't get you can't rely on technical collection, you know,

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Speaker 10: whether it's sigant or cyber or other things, unless that

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Speaker 10: it is really enabled by you know, superb outstanding human

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Speaker 10: intelligence that allows you that penetration. And you know, just

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Speaker 10: from a collection perspective, you know, we are overly reliant

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Speaker 10: because we do not invest in human in a way

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Speaker 10: that you know, protects our own interests and make sure

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Speaker 10: that we've got a way of you know, checking on

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Speaker 10: what's going on. So that's that's one big issue, along

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Speaker 10: with some of the other things that you know, Sam

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Speaker 10: and you've already mentioned, like team A, Team B, but

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Speaker 10: also having an arbiter in the National Security Council who's

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Speaker 10: a you know, intelligence senior director who understands how the

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Speaker 10: intelligence community works, understands the games that are played, and understands,

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Speaker 10: you know, the types of priority information requirements the NSC

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Speaker 10: and the president require, as well as the agencies and

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Speaker 10: departments that rely on this intelligence. That's a critical role

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Speaker 10: for protecting the interests of the president.

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Speaker 1: Colonel Harvey could not agree more, Sir, Where do people

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Speaker 1: get you on social media?

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Speaker 10: First off, my web page is Derek Harvey dot net,

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Speaker 10: and then my truth social is Derek at Derek Harvey,

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Speaker 10: and then on Twitter, of course it's Colonel d Harvey.

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Speaker 2: Colonel, thank you so much, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Good thanks you somebody with incredible experience in the Middle

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Speaker 1: East and a major player in the first administration. And

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Speaker 1: also Devin Nuniez's right hand man over a house intel

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Speaker 1: to sort it all out. Very disturbing story. We recovered

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Speaker 1: more today. We had to take fifteen minutes. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I could have played it twice. President Trump gave a talk,

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Speaker 1: had some remarks at the NATO summit in Netherlands and

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Speaker 1: the Hague, and then took Q and A, which was

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Speaker 1: a master class. As he said, I took questions from

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Speaker 1: all the beauties, all the toughest people, and it was

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Speaker 1: very limited. We're gonna pull and have some of that

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Speaker 1: today and talk about because a lot of stuff on Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: Most importantly, the Twelve Day War was over. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was adam at boom Over. I did what we

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Speaker 1: had to do, got it done. I promised for I

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Speaker 1: think he said fifteen years to do that. It's a

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Speaker 1: blit rate it. We're moving on and This is gonna

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Speaker 1: be tremendous pressure put on President Trump's administration, boots on

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Speaker 1: the ground regime change. You watch the israel first crowd

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Speaker 1: over at Fox is going to be relentless, and we're

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Speaker 1: going to make sure we're here too blunted. That's where

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Speaker 1: they're all worked up. They're leaking oil because we shut

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Speaker 1: down their regime change, which they wanted to go to.

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Speaker 1: In fact, if there's regime change, right, we think every

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Speaker 1: country ought to do it. Maybe in Jerusalem they should

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Speaker 1: start thinking about that. I don't know how Netta's government.

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Speaker 1: This Washington Post story has got to be refuted. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how anybody can deal with them until the

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Speaker 1: CIA comes out. We got to talk about exactly what

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Speaker 1: information was put forward on that critical time of Tuesday, Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: Thursday of a couple of weeks ago, particularly led up

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Speaker 1: to the bombing. So and I think everybody's in agreement

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Speaker 1: needs to be a major reset. If you're a protectorate,

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Speaker 1: you got to act like a protectorate. And issue is

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Speaker 1: a protectorate, right, they're not. We don't have an alliance

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Speaker 1: with them in the one time at President Trump will

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Speaker 1: tell you this. Solomone Netanyah who backed out the last second,

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